there's an infestation - Safety Third 146

[SPEAKER_02]: What what happened? [SPEAKER_02]: We're not recording any of the podcast. [SPEAKER_02]: We were recording [SPEAKER_02]: That was good content. [SPEAKER_02]: That was good. [SPEAKER_02]: We were talking about computers and RAM. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we actually made me that sick. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is a god came down and I still need to complain about my computer Oh, I need to do it again then maybe I'll feel better.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, complain about your computer So I just okay, well, we go get a summarized the podcast that we just recorded that didn't get recorded Now, Joe made a new computer. [SPEAKER_02]: He made a joke about five years of RAM. [SPEAKER_02]: So that was the joke. [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't actually five [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, okay, so I was trying to watch. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I sent an email. [SPEAKER_01]: You sent an email to for the sauce, I thought.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Nigel has 128 gigs of RAM for real and a three-repper. [SPEAKER_00]: How many cores? [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go to say, which one, the three-repper? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Or this computer, this computer is not a three-repper. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh. [SPEAKER_00]: This one's a just a rise in whatever the 16 core one is. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Nigel won't show us his keyboard for whatever reason. [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of those people. [SPEAKER_01]: Freckoverting.

[SPEAKER_00]: Show us your key. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's covered in goo, man. [SPEAKER_01]: Show me your goo. [SPEAKER_00]: No, it has finger goo. [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, that's embarrassing. [SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry, nobody will be able to tell of the CRT. [SPEAKER_01]: All right, but I was watching. [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to watch Netflix the other night. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: My computer, it needed to update the browser. [SPEAKER_01]: There was no chill.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was pissed. [SPEAKER_01]: I had to update the browser to do that. [SPEAKER_01]: I had to restart the computer. [SPEAKER_02]: So, update the browser wasn't even mean. [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I don't know if they're too smart. [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, you know, I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: You have to update the browser or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're using Microsoft Edge. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, shut up. [SPEAKER_00]: No way. [SPEAKER_00]: You have a huge Microsoft Edge.

[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin, if you do, you say you deserve everything that's coming. [SPEAKER_01]: Apparently. [SPEAKER_01]: Holy shit. [SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't want to install it. [SPEAKER_01]: Anything on the computer. [SPEAKER_02]: It's 20, 25. [SPEAKER_01]: All in here. [SPEAKER_01]: And Microsoft employees don't use Edge is editing shit and Fusion. [SPEAKER_01]: And my laser cutter software, that's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, I had to restart my computer, but the only option was restart and update or just shut down it update. [SPEAKER_01]: So I just picked the bullet and updated my computer and it never turned back on. [SPEAKER_01]: This is my laptop. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the shitty laptop. [SPEAKER_01]: No, the nice one with the two screens. [SPEAKER_01]: It just died. [SPEAKER_01]: It just died. [SPEAKER_01]: It's still dead. [SPEAKER_01]: It's just stuck in a boot loop.

[SPEAKER_01]: It says like there was a problem, like turning on your computer. [SPEAKER_01]: We need to restart and then the restart and says the same thing over and over again. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: This is the second time updating a computer on Windows 11 has bricked it. [SPEAKER_01]: Windows 11 feels like shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was using it on man. [SPEAKER_00]: I just installed it. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're screwed. [SPEAKER_02]: So bad.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like it feels like it feels like a mobile phone that that you paid like $60 for that like cover the cost of the phone by like injecting it full of now. [SPEAKER_02]: We're like it or no, maybe like a knock off iPhone. [SPEAKER_02]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Like a fake iPhone. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it like loads like like it's not a real operating system. [SPEAKER_02]: Like the start menu I was trying to figure out where are the applications right? [SPEAKER_01]: They're gone.

[SPEAKER_01]: Where are they? [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot find them. [SPEAKER_01]: Is it? [SPEAKER_01]: Am I doing something wrong? [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what is there? [SPEAKER_01]: What? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, in a search bar and like MSN.com or something.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I type of like booting like Photoshop if I type in [SPEAKER_02]: like p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- [SPEAKER_02]: And give me results for photos. [SPEAKER_02]: It will straight up a Microsoft web edge web page opens. [SPEAKER_02]: This is like the word photo.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I edit this is kind of a not a purposeless comment, but like this part, I use Vegas Pro to edit. [SPEAKER_00]: And the thing that always gets me or even Photoshop, you'd install it. [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you try to look for the software. [SPEAKER_00]: It's nowhere can be found. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: You have to either, if you didn't put an icon on your desktop, if they went to like program files and like find it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, how is the search function still this broken? [SPEAKER_01]: Yep. [SPEAKER_00]: And even just, even just searching for files, the number of times, I literally paste like the, you know, the name that comes off the camera, like P1, oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: You search it, it goes can't be found. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I open the folder and go, it's right there. [SPEAKER_00]: And I search again, it goes, oh, it's not here. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like looking at it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Premiere does that. [SPEAKER_02]: Chelsea had a video call a couple of weeks ago and she's like gets into the call and I just reformat this computer and like everything else and like it the audio just like won't start.

[SPEAKER_02]: and she's sitting there like trying to be like oh give me a second she's like the meeting host to oh yeah and she's like in this meeting as the meeting host and like can't talk anyone and there's like eight people and so I got to go get my computer she logs into like my laptop and then is able to like get but I'm sitting there like why is none of this shit work [SPEAKER_01]: I refuse to update my desktop to Windows 11. [SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like actually there's a chance I might lose every minute now. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm done, dude. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going back to Penn and Paper. [SPEAKER_01]: Windows X. [SPEAKER_01]: He was so nice. [SPEAKER_01]: He just opened the start menu. [SPEAKER_01]: Your programs are there. [SPEAKER_01]: The accessories are there. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, or guys in the old year. [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're wrong.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was Windows 7. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I can't make sure that start menu. [SPEAKER_02]: So imagine imagine like the Windows 10 or where Windows 11 sort of like the streamlinedness, but with the like efficiency of Windows XP. [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean? [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even picture Windows 7. [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a, it was like a baby between with like Vista and 10. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, in Vista and then 7, I think. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I did a good Vista and 10. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God, this is all. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I think it was Vista. [SPEAKER_00]: This XP Vista. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: And then 7 and then 7. [SPEAKER_02]: And then 7 was cash money.

[SPEAKER_02]: eight was the tablet disaster, yeah, they didn't do nine, then they did 10 10 is sort of I think the news the closest we can get to seven and XP and then 11 is like actually a diaries of you know, you don't have you get multiple users on a PC windows 11 you have to click on start menu the user the three dots sign out. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and restarting is usually like a thing, too. [SPEAKER_02]: It is genuinely in with burysing. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, shit.

[SPEAKER_02]: When does 11 is 11 is? [SPEAKER_01]: And it just keeps, don't worry. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll update update every time we get better. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's going to work. [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to all get better, Kevin, because I think was it Windows 10. [SPEAKER_00]: They introduced that if you don't have a pro version, it just will restart your computer without asking. [SPEAKER_02]: I have a pro version, and it still research my computer without asking.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you have to choose the option. [SPEAKER_00]: There was a, wait, so I say, there was an article that came out because they were going to say they're integrating AI into Windows. [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, why, why isn't he doubted it? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember Windows on or any of the other windows like they're integrating AI like much more deeply into it. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't like there's no more competitors, there's no more DLLs, it's all AI now.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it makes me want to do to myself what my fish did to itself this weekend. [SPEAKER_00]: Survive. [SPEAKER_00]: You should chill it myself. [SPEAKER_02]: My fish killed itself this weekend, you guys. [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I should talk about it. [SPEAKER_01]: Will it make you feel better? [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I don't feel that bad because I was like, well, I didn't do it. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Is this a thing that happens?

[SPEAKER_02]: How have you fish killed themselves is this my is the first time in my life I've had a fish kill itself. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I think it happens to everybody that's owned a fish once How do we talk about the dead cat even? [SPEAKER_01]: Number one. [SPEAKER_01]: We did talk about the dead cat [SPEAKER_00]: Nigel, do you remember that? [SPEAKER_00]: I sent you the photo of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God. [SPEAKER_01]: You got, you saw that I sent all of you, but no, I don't think we did because you and Nigel were talking about it here, but we didn't do a podcast then. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, we're not talking about the dead cat. [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we... [SPEAKER_03]: Um, oh my God, it's a good story. [SPEAKER_01]: You can just tell it again. [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a good story? [SPEAKER_01]: What's a mystery? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It's a regular who doesn't.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, you know, part of me feels like I shouldn't share this because like I was like, well, what if it's like a person that keeps leaving dead cats on my lawn, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't think it is like you don't want to give them any recognition. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but exactly like to have three dead cats on your lawn in like, [SPEAKER_02]: lesson five years is sort of insane.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And at no point in my life, have I ever had even one dead cat in my yard? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you did for like six months or like a year, right? [SPEAKER_01]: Well, only once. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm saying like, why is it that everywhere I live, there's never been a dead cat and now there's been three at the same place.

[SPEAKER_02]: in the same place, in the same place, so I got really lucky because every other time there's been a dead cat in the yard, this is so fucking insane, this is like I actually the first time it happened, I was like, oh my god, do I, the first time it happened, it was half a cat, I think I've talked about this before. [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone here raised their hand if they've had a dead cat in their yard before. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what the fuck, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Raise your hand, Will. [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, me, three, it's, I've almost had it happen enough times for every single person here. [SPEAKER_02]: And I, I like, is my, is it, is it where, where? [SPEAKER_02]: How, who it's like, not even, not even like a Steven King Indian burial ground. [SPEAKER_02]: This is just straight up like, where do the cats come from and why are they, why was one cut in half? [SPEAKER_02]: Why, why was this one, how do I describe it?

[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, [SPEAKER_02]: God, okay, I've got to like, I've got to, I've got to humble my threats, thoughts together. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but every other time that it happened, I was, I had to do by myself, right? [SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, that my, my wife is like, okay, there's a dead count on the one in Jesus. [SPEAKER_02]: deal with the dead cat and then I'm like, I'm like, okay, um, do I pick it up with my hands? [SPEAKER_02]: Do I use a shovel?

[SPEAKER_02]: Do I put it in a trash bag? [SPEAKER_02]: Do I bury it? [SPEAKER_02]: Do I throw it away? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I genuinely have never any point in my life in any, like, of the formal education environments I've been through. [SPEAKER_02]: Has someone explained to me how to dispose of someone else's dead cat on my lawn? [SPEAKER_01]: Do you ask the county to come and scan it and see if it had an owner? [SPEAKER_02]: Do I put it in a bag and to get with me?

[SPEAKER_02]: Do I put it in my freezer? [SPEAKER_02]: And then in the morning, I take it to who what the police? [SPEAKER_02]: Animal, who animal what? [SPEAKER_02]: Control the fucking pound? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, do I walk into the fucking pound with a dead cat in a bag? [SPEAKER_02]: Like what do I do? [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if you go to the police, you take one cat there, they're like, huh, okay, that's weird. [SPEAKER_01]: We'll look into it. [SPEAKER_01]: You take the third one there.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to start looking into you. [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you're killing cats. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I swear to God. [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not. [SPEAKER_00]: They're all like, but aren't they all like showing up in different forms? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the first half a cat the second one. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember what the second one was I think it was mostly intact. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was mostly intact.

[SPEAKER_02]: This cat the one that Nigel had helped me with just the only good part of the story is that like Nigel was like Went landing and coming here and I was like, oh, cool. [SPEAKER_02]: Just all like not deal with the cat thing until Nigel gets here in a couple hours And this one You could pick it up like a briefcase from its spine [SPEAKER_01]: I would say that the way you imagine a sandwich, but you like, you just eat a giant you out of the sandwich.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not only the crust on the edge, it's exactly Kevin. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like imagine you, it's like the sandwich, but if you take a giant bite out of it, and there's now it's a you, except the you part was from the legs and the arms, and the sandwich part was the stomach of the cat, yes. [SPEAKER_00]: No, it was like butchered it was like it was just placed there and then you want to put this info out there maybe someone's putting these cats on your yard.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, so that was a suspicion for a while and now I have a new suspicion. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And that spot is right underneath a really big tree brand. [SPEAKER_01]: You think it's like a hot. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's some either bird or like a raccoon or something. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why nothing's showing up on your camera.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that something is like killing cat to eat them, eating a part of them and then like dropping them. [SPEAKER_01]: Or a raccoon dragging it up into the tree. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really explain the half a cat, but maybe that I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I could eat a whole cat. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so either.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I just was like basically like whatever they ate, they didn't even eat like the part of the cat set I think that a normal person would eat if you had to eat a cat and it was very weird looking like cat from that perspective of like the meat actually looked like something that he would buy as a ghost or like it was.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, from what I understand, this is my knowledge of like just predator animals in general, like they go for a bunch of the organs, like liver and stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like that's what I feel like it had to yeah, it was probably the sum like I said a coyote at first, but it didn't it was like very targeted to like the [SPEAKER_00]: You know, the belly or the rest of it was like completely intact. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly that. [SPEAKER_02]: And so the neighbors. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing that best part of this one. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't go for the eyes. [SPEAKER_02]: No, there was nothing. [SPEAKER_02]: The cat was completely fine. [SPEAKER_02]: Mine is his whole like stunning gone. [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying that like birds. [SPEAKER_00]: I think like kind of go for eyes. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I thought.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like it's eyes being intact. [SPEAKER_00]: To me might mean like. [SPEAKER_02]: There was also nothing there. [SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like something had eaten in a tree. [SPEAKER_02]: Like something had picked it up and like picking in the tree. [SPEAKER_02]: And the worst part about this experience, always say it's not worse. [SPEAKER_02]: It was different from the other ones. [SPEAKER_02]: The other two times. [SPEAKER_02]: That's the kind of my life.

[SPEAKER_02]: Is there were neighbors, neighbors kept knocking on a door to say there was a dead cat on the lawn. [SPEAKER_02]: And then of course potato here's something about a cat on the lawn. [SPEAKER_02]: And then she was actually the cat on the lawn. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh oh, pretty show where they could do it. [SPEAKER_02]: I did. [SPEAKER_02]: I did. [SPEAKER_02]: I was like this. [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like she wants to see it if I don't let her see it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I should probably, you know, I feel like you have to. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like the cat died. [SPEAKER_01]: He's just no idea what that means. [SPEAKER_02]: What she said, the cap fell over and the cap fell over. [SPEAKER_02]: He died.

[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, has a booboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobooboobob [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, how's the audience going to take this? [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, yeah, this is a... [SPEAKER_02]: I had to live it, so they can... [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, graphic.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did anyone else have any dynamical stories to push? [SPEAKER_01]: No, nothing, nothing recent. [SPEAKER_01]: Um... [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing fresh. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we could circle back to the dead fish. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the mouse. [SPEAKER_01]: I have a mouse story. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, shit. [SPEAKER_01]: I was in the garage, like standing up at my workbench. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not just tinkering on something and out of the corner of my eyes.

[SPEAKER_01]: See this black thing scurrying on the, like, towards, I have no idea what it is. [SPEAKER_01]: So I immediately, like, it was coming right for my leg. [SPEAKER_01]: So I like lifted my leg up and it like ran like towards me. [SPEAKER_01]: I just like stepped, stepped down and I stomped and it was a mouse. [SPEAKER_01]: a little tiny mouse just like made a B line towards the nail that nailed it. [SPEAKER_02]: Where was this here?

[SPEAKER_01]: Here. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Like the middle of the garage floor. [SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea why I like ran from outside into the garage at me. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_01]: Nice thought before I realized I stepped on it and it was a mouse. [SPEAKER_02]: What would it feel like to step on a mouse? [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, no, not really and like no satisfying crunch if that's what you're asking either.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm just kind of killed it. [SPEAKER_02]: Did it was right away pancake? [SPEAKER_02]: Or did it kind of like was like princess in the pee where you could like feel under your foot? [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I could feel it just because it was like sliding back and forth. [SPEAKER_01]: It was fully pancake. [SPEAKER_02]: Like a banana field, a little bit of stuff. [SPEAKER_01]: What was it doing? [SPEAKER_01]: Like why, like, maybe as Toxopas Moses, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe it couldn't even comprehend you. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was just running through the garage and it didn't realize you were... [SPEAKER_01]: It was trying to climb up my leg. [SPEAKER_01]: No way. [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was making a beeline towards my leg. [SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing else in your body. [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, it would have had to like intercept me at some point. [SPEAKER_01]: It was coming towards me.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it didn't make any sounds or anything before charging. [SPEAKER_01]: No, just, I didn't hear anything. [SPEAKER_01]: I just saw shadow and I'm like, uh, like that fast. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Wow. [SPEAKER_02]: That definitely would live with me forever. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I forgot, that was like two weeks ago. [SPEAKER_01]: And I forgot, you know, right now. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I think you were, you were gone on the trip.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then you came back talking about your RV adventure. [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I didn't want to ruin the vibe. [SPEAKER_02]: Man, I think that was my reflexes are pretty epic. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's like, that is, that's, I, that's, I immediately, I would have, I would have told you that Kevin, you're not going to believe this. [SPEAKER_02]: I told Sandra, which do you think about that? [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, ew, why would you do that?

[SPEAKER_01]: What's wrong with you? [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it probably had rabies or like, toxoplasmosis. [SPEAKER_01]: The thing was, you threw the trash? [SPEAKER_01]: I know, the neighbor's yard. [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha. [SPEAKER_00]: Kevin. [SPEAKER_01]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_04]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_04]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy.

[UNKNOWN]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: She's the guy. [SPEAKER_02]: But I've like had to fish for a couple years now. [SPEAKER_02]: They just the two fish that fish just they like dying and sometimes they just live forever. [SPEAKER_02]: And I like every two weeks.

[SPEAKER_02]: I like clean the fish tank. [SPEAKER_02]: I replace 20% of the water. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it out. [SPEAKER_02]: I put some, you know, you got you do your chlorine declorinator or your new water. [SPEAKER_02]: You do, I have like a clarifier. [SPEAKER_02]: You put in a sort of like couple, you know, with like a flocking like clumps things together. [SPEAKER_01]: So you're trying to say you love your fish. [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't actually like my fish.

[SPEAKER_02]: I just feel like there is this obligation to take care of them and so I do not neglecting them. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not neglecting them. [SPEAKER_02]: No, but I do refuse to spend them because I I made the aquarium best and I was like, I'd be cool to have these fish to keep these fish. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and so then I kept them and uh, uh, two, two of them. [SPEAKER_02]: Just sort of keep living and, and then the, the one as a two killed itself.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I walk into the garage. [SPEAKER_01]: How does a dish kill itself? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's a, that's a great question. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I walk into the garage because I hope, I don't know, I open the garage for something, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: And the, um, the kids, some of the kids were over the family children and they're like, [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, how many fish are there and he, you know, you count and you put the number fish and he was like Like one is a fish and then I like I looked at it and I was like one Huh With it's all this literally been too fish in this fish tan and you look at Jimmy like no well He's like two I don't know like that's not stupid, but like he's too not motivated to do that

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and well, yeah, right, because now the water is wet and gross, where is the second fish like there's no way the cat ate it under the tree and so I just looked down and it's just on the garage floor like sort of it's like just kind of dried out, but like you know, like a three hours dried out and like six hours yeah, a little bit a little bit like the hydrated, not fresh, but maybe half a day or less oh boy and I can only imagine that it

[SPEAKER_02]: Jump out of the fish tank That's it that's like I don't think it killed itself. [SPEAKER_01]: I think the other gold fish killed it pushed it out. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe scared it You know came up behind it, but it's tail and it was like woo, it's a jump. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so [SPEAKER_02]: Probably, I mean, maybe, is it bad that I feel a little relieved? [SPEAKER_02]: I do actually feel like really was like, ah, it's a one down.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, now you don't have to buy that tank. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, so I looked that up because there was like, you need to pay your tank. [SPEAKER_02]: You only got a pet go or wherever you get them from. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, like, by a goldfish for 25 cents each. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, okay, well, they can fit, like $500 for the goldfish and a 10 gallon tank.

[SPEAKER_02]: And you're like, you know, they're sort of like setting the example of like how to take care of a goldfish based on that and they're like, all right, I just need to take about that size. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and then my goldfish will be happy. [SPEAKER_02]: And apparently you need to take that's like way bigger than that. [SPEAKER_02]: You like a 20 gallon tank. [SPEAKER_02]: And then I have to go buy a new tank.

[SPEAKER_02]: So you see the the predicament I'm in is like am I actually going to go spend like [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like one last thing I had to think about. [SPEAKER_01]: What if you just make a like a hamster to tank? [SPEAKER_02]: What kind of did that? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like a like a like keep doing that between the two, maybe. [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, just keep making like a series of to it. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I like that idea.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need time. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I did enjoy a little bit like you know like having the first taken taken care of them and keeping it clean and doing all that But like still having one jump out like what would I possibly have done?

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm at least supposed to have a lid on it, but like how do you put the lid on it when you have the filter hanging over the edge like I don't know I've never seen a lid on [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they have like cut they have cut out of the filter. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I I've seen it happen like once or twice on Reddit videos where even with the the top on they still find a way to like You know wiggle out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they jumped through the latch where you'd like open and just make the food in Just busted through it and like fell on the ground [SPEAKER_02]: how long is like a respectable amount of time to have a goal. [SPEAKER_02]: Just what's the average life span of just like did these two? [SPEAKER_00]: I think they can go anywhere from like a day to like years and years. [SPEAKER_00]: No, but like it's normal. [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like is it like, am I like above the bell curve with these two? [SPEAKER_00]: I think I've heard that. [SPEAKER_00]: 10 to 15 years longer than they could be like seven years. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yeah, but how I do the Hitler, the average goldfish average goldfish lifespan is 10 to 15 years. [SPEAKER_00]: No way, no way. [SPEAKER_00]: It says average penis length is 8 inches. [SPEAKER_00]: It says the world record is 43 years.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to go to the earth and if goldfish or things that parents buy for their five-year-old kid, there's no way it's living for 15 years. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, okay, okay. [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably like four years. [SPEAKER_00]: Four years, it says it says, [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to read it. [SPEAKER_00]: It says a lot of people only make it a few months because they don't take care of the water.

[SPEAKER_00]: Some people, it says the majority hover around two to three. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I meant. [SPEAKER_00]: If you're, it's like if you are a goldfish connoisseur, you could get to like, you know, the decade mark. [SPEAKER_02]: What is the difference between a three year old goldfish owner and the 10 year old goldfish owner? [SPEAKER_02]: Like what's been done differently? [SPEAKER_00]: I would, I don't have a lid, believe it or not, just a lid.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the great filter. [SPEAKER_00]: But I know that if it's just between the three month owner and the three-year owner, I keep trying to find them off for a change. [SPEAKER_00]: The water wants. [SPEAKER_02]: They never do it. [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm saying, if someone, some people just don't change the fish's water and then just dies in like three weeks. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't have like an aerator or a pot, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they're just basically the fish never set a chance, but then it's like, yeah, the difference between the three and ten years is probably like, I mean, the difference is getting more and more subtle and probably like, you know, genetics, probably to the point of like, just what room you're even keeping it in, like, why make control? [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: my garage. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like maybe the temperature fluctuations does something. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: This shirt is kind of like that though. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like one of the super finicky. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Like I know that anyone who's told me they take care of fish makes me wonder. [SPEAKER_00]: how they even survive in the wild. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, be like, oh, in my fish tank, if the pH goes up by a little bit, they die.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I don't clean it enough, they die. [SPEAKER_00]: If I feed them the wrong food, they die. [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, how do they survive in the wild? [SPEAKER_00]: This seems like every single thing kills them.

[SPEAKER_02]: uh, getting a Goldfish feels like a weird sort of like modern day subscription service where you have this thing that just like now gets you locked into this ecosystem of the test strips like oh yeah, I at one point I was like, oh, like I should get a simple test kit and I'm like on Amazon and everything's like 30 or $40 like.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, because then you got to buy whatever chemicals and, and I'm like for this 25 cent goldfish to then go and be spending like potentially a hundred dollars a year on test trips and chemicals. [SPEAKER_02]: I basically, I've had the same pump and filter system. [SPEAKER_02]: I just clean it every two weeks. [SPEAKER_02]: I only replace, like, I don't know, 20, like, try trying to replace more than half the water.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: And then you just squeeze everything out. [SPEAKER_02]: You squeeze the sponge. [SPEAKER_02]: I have like a gravel vac, which you like siphon the water out into a bucket. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like a big it looks like a penis enlarging thing like a penis bump. [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a big clear click to the hose coming up. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And you like the siphon basically pulls all the crap out of the gravel. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can kind of like do you kind of like stir it up a little bit. [SPEAKER_02]: Stir it up and it like pulls all the like, you know, whatever decaying fish poo poo and whatnot. [SPEAKER_02]: And then it like that's pretty much I have a plant in there like a living plant I like I went around you know I was like like searching for the most the toughest plant because they kept eating it and so like I ended up finding something that like pretty thick leaves and they stopped eating it.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then I think four of them I had for like two years and then it went down to two for like another year or me. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the exact timeline. [SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm down to one and I think that one might actually live to 10 years because it is the biggest. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: We've always been the biggest. [SPEAKER_02]: Ooh. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: You got to get it at a buddy now.

[SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: I like, you know, if I if I was in the garage and saw Plop out, I would have like panic. [SPEAKER_02]: They got got to get it back in. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: But I wasn't there and so I don't feel that guilty. [SPEAKER_01]: Not even a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: Not even a little bit. [SPEAKER_01]: What was I supposed to do? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: I was supposed to know. [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Put a little electric fence around the rim or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Stop. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Um. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I'm going to get. [SPEAKER_02]: I think fish is not. [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't do fish. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: I tried to get it. [SPEAKER_02]: Getting rid of them. [SPEAKER_02]: I tried giving them to Michael. [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't want to. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he'll take one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he'll take one. [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe just give it to the winner of the hackathon, like a bet of a baggie, like, here you go. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I'm like in the garage a bunch recently because I it like it's been getting worse and worse and worse and there and I'm like trying to film a video right now and I just like there's more stuff that just keeps getting out of to the garage, you can barely walk around in there anymore.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so I've been trying to figure out how to organize my stuff better, like I don't know, I don't I think I Nigel, you have a last ship. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, but you also have a lot of space and you also spend way too much money organizing your space. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess it's all fair to say yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I am like, I'm kind of a cheap ass when it comes to buying like organization furniture like I should add I had one thing yeah I enjoy organizing I think that's one big like different I like that process of organizing thing. [SPEAKER_02]: What are you doing several weeks from now? [SPEAKER_02]: Would you like to come to my house? [SPEAKER_00]: I like doing it. [SPEAKER_00]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Ah. [SPEAKER_02]: Because I just like get stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, man. [SPEAKER_02]: How do you? [SPEAKER_02]: How do you begin? [SPEAKER_02]: Like Kevin has this neat strategy where he will just leave stuff outside. [SPEAKER_02]: And then it like rust. [SPEAKER_02]: And then he has to go buy a new one when he needs it again. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's not that important. [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's not that important. [SPEAKER_02]: And so it's like you always know where it is.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's on Amazon or Harbor Freight. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, can you give me an example? [SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about? [SPEAKER_02]: I remember there was a vice at your house in Florida that was like nailed to like a tree stump. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes. [SPEAKER_02]: It was so rusted that I had in my mind. [SPEAKER_01]: It can't possibly get any more rusted. [SPEAKER_01]: It can't. [SPEAKER_01]: It was the rest of my life. [SPEAKER_01]: It's broken in.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's broken in, broken in, broken in, it's broken in. [SPEAKER_02]: It's broken and I like not like a good stump vice. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you have a thing and you're just like, I might use this one day, and it might save me $20 on Amazon. [SPEAKER_02]: It might, and so I just like, I have stuff from forever ago. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, sensors, electronics, even batteries, like lipo batteries and whatnot. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't have any like organization for it.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so there's just kind of crap everywhere. [SPEAKER_02]: And like the only semblance I would say of organization I have is I will make boxes of things for projects. [SPEAKER_02]: it's like video specifically. [SPEAKER_02]: So if I have a video like the phone drop video, I still have a box of stuff of phone drop, like phone production, like airbags, airbags, airbags, nilar fabric, like making my own bag.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just in the box, like it's all in this like small cardboard box. [SPEAKER_02]: And so it like works great when you have things that you're [SPEAKER_02]: It just kind of becomes a box of random parts at that point because you're not going to go back into it. [SPEAKER_02]: And so I like, I like hung these, uh, these shelves, um, from the, from the raffers.

[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I took down the shitty 2x4 one that was like very poorly made by the, like some previous owner of the house. [SPEAKER_02]: And then I use Kevin's induction heater to like bend these back hold roll brackets. [SPEAKER_02]: I like then bolt the bracket to the joist and then it hangs down and like twists to then go on to the to the cabinet or to the shelf and so now I have like pretty like a pretty big industrial shelf. [SPEAKER_02]: This is hanging from the ceiling.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there's no post going down to the ground like it's really nice and [SPEAKER_02]: But there's no organization or storage on it and so like what I need is like shelves or drawers or even like rails to like put totes on to like imagine like a small tub. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like 40 small tub right, but like that's a whole project.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like that would take, you know, probably a month of organization and thousands of dollars, even if you're buying like a kid cabinets and and drawers, but the organization goes fast and it's fun once you have like the system would be yeah, but like then you got to come up with the system just something to hold a lot of boxes. [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like small boxes are better than big boxes because you're never going to fill up a big box in an efficient way.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're never going to have enough of something. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's actually, that's a really interesting point because I've been feeling that too right now trying to organize the open sauce. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because do two parallel small boxes and you know, if you have to. [SPEAKER_02]: I watched a video or I like saw a video about like how Amazon warehouses work. [SPEAKER_02]: Like you ever see when an Amazon warehouse robot comes up to the [SPEAKER_02]: Pickers.

[SPEAKER_02]: Pickers. [SPEAKER_02]: He's. [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like so. [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds bad. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they do call them that fuck. [SPEAKER_02]: And they, you look at the tub and it'll have like a bunch of random shit in it, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Fuller's maybe. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know both those sound offensive. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think they're like, even, like, I think it's.

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, anyways, um, Packer. [SPEAKER_00]: Gosh. [SPEAKER_00]: Gosh. [SPEAKER_02]: But all P words, uh, they like, you, like the robot comes up with like a tub of shit, right? [SPEAKER_02]: And none of it's the same. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not just like, all I ordered this, you know, this book, whatever, it's what is popular now. [SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, sure, there's like a car battery a book of this of that. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, [SPEAKER_02]: Wait a minute.

[SPEAKER_02]: That might actually make a lot of sense for storing even like my own stuff or open sauce stuff because we just have like, you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of like 17 gallon of oats. [SPEAKER_02]: I like what if you just don't try to organize? [SPEAKER_02]: You just put them in a bin and then keep track of which bin there. [SPEAKER_02]: right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Because, you know, if you don't have enough of something like you're saying, like, what bin does it go in? [SPEAKER_02]: Like, even if you have a small bin, yeah, like, oh, I've got, you know, some sensors. [SPEAKER_02]: Do you just put all sensors in that bin? [SPEAKER_02]: But what if it's like measuring sensors? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like, how did you have to start printing a little tiny dividers? [SPEAKER_01]: Like, have we seen?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I do. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to go on Amazon and I have to say is this a boost module or a buck module. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because all the different order of boost module. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Where is it? [SPEAKER_01]: Right. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And so like you ever see the grid fin indeed, like the 3D printed system. [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: Man has like the amount of videos on it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's like imagine like a 3D printing kind of modular system where they all fit together and you can change the sizes, but it still is like as long as you're doing an increments of like the block size. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but like are you going to like come up with all of these different bins for like every time you buy a new sensor, you need to make another bin for it. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Right?

[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I'm not a sit here and I just like before I can even like move a muscle to start trying to like unfuck this like catastrophe of a garage. [SPEAKER_01]: You know, once you get too many, you know, say you start ended up with a lot of, you know, power booster modules or like certain sensors, you know, you, you had to order like 50 of them for a video. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then you, then you put those in their own bin. [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you keep them all the same. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: But now you start like an empty bin and till it starts getting in the way of all your trying to find the other sensors, that's when you break them off into a new bin. [SPEAKER_02]: What's your strategy, Nigel? [SPEAKER_02]: How do you keep all your things organized?

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, kind of what you're saying is the is the problem is I think it's too full. [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too full. [SPEAKER_00]: A, you're never going to have the best organizational system like you can only, I find it like conceptually difficult to come up with the final version because there's just too many moving parts.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what I usually do is you just start small and you just try to, for me, I like to group things that are similar and that actually is what screws me over sometimes. [SPEAKER_00]: It's the worst when I buy something new that doesn't fit into any of the existing categories.

[SPEAKER_00]: And in the past, that would just sit on my desk for like two years because it's just like, [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Spain, because when you have a crap ton of stuff, you're like, I need to put it with other stuff so that I in my brain when I'll literally it's to the point where I'm like, I've all these things these are things you hit other things with I'm going to put them in this drawer with things you hit things like you just kind of.

[SPEAKER_02]: These are the things that can fit in this drawer that's kind of long and narrow. [SPEAKER_00]: Anything that's long and narrow goes in the long and narrow drawer. [SPEAKER_00]: I actually have drawers like what I end up splitting my tools into our drawers for sticky tools. [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a drawer for sticky tools? [SPEAKER_00]: No for sticky things. [SPEAKER_01]: I have a sticky hammer.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, I have a drawer for things and like two drawers that are for like for sticking things together so that includes like velcro and glue and what nails put them in different drawers and screws go epoxy epoxy putty super glue Yeah, what about new nails, what about the name brand liquid nails silicone caught is that go with cleaner hardware UV resin [SPEAKER_00]: It'll go with glues.

[SPEAKER_00]: The, the, what about tape also, liquid nails goes in the garbage because we don't use it for a here it sucks and doesn't work really stop stocking it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sometimes it separates and goes bad. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that. [SPEAKER_02]: Where do you put your tape? [SPEAKER_00]: Or might not go bad. [SPEAKER_00]: You might be able to like squish it back together. [SPEAKER_00]: Where do you put your tape? [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[SPEAKER_02]: What's the rate of the tape going? [SPEAKER_00]: My tape. [SPEAKER_00]: My tape is above in the same drawer of the glue along with zip ties. [SPEAKER_00]: What about all in my life? [SPEAKER_00]: What about tape measures? [SPEAKER_02]: Te measures. [SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's actually next to it, because I have a whole measuring, like, I've, like, measure having all the drawers in it are all, like, measuring tools. [SPEAKER_01]: What do, what are your measuring tools?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's the kind of voice, because you have, like, pipettes and stuff, which are for measuring now? [SPEAKER_00]: I know this is and so it's separated between the lab and the workshop as well in the drawer. [SPEAKER_00]: No, no. [SPEAKER_00]: Those are two separate rooms. [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Right. [SPEAKER_00]: So in the workshop area, all the measurements think stuff is like rulers, calipers like, you know, triangle things. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the triangle.

[SPEAKER_01]: How did the triangle measure work? [SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Makes a triangle. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like it. [SPEAKER_01]: As too many numbers on it. [SPEAKER_01]: It gives me anxiety every time I have to use. [SPEAKER_00]: I just, I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: I just use it for making 45 degree angles. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it. [SPEAKER_00]: That's it. [SPEAKER_00]: That's all I use it.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I actually, you know, I've been like tweaking this whole time. [SPEAKER_02]: But I actually do know what the perfect organization system is. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because imagine you need something. [SPEAKER_02]: All you have to do is type it in and pay money and wait two days and then it shows up. [SPEAKER_01]: One day, sometimes within 12 hours, it'll show up overnight and four in the morning.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so why bother trying to come up with an organization system and store things that clutter your office when you could just use something throughout a way and then in the future you just type in exactly what you need and the computer processes it and delivers it to you. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a patient man. [SPEAKER_01]: even 12 hours. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the only thing stopping Amazon from like world domination at this point is is like actually the one day delivery.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: If they could deliver stuff in an hour, we would all be cooked. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: They used to do that. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why. [SPEAKER_01]: I think they realized like, oh, this is bad. [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to like ruin people's lives. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Like drone delivery.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to like destroy their own business because they're going to it's like it's going to scale way too quickly and they can't keep [SPEAKER_02]: I would pay a premium. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if most people feel like say, but when you're making videos or doing things, like my brain does not like to weigh. [SPEAKER_02]: And if I buy something that takes four days to get here, it's because they did not have an option that was two days.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have to go to eBay. [SPEAKER_02]: I would pay a significant amount of money or like it's borderline instantaneous drone deliver. [SPEAKER_02]: Like if if something could be dispatched like almost automatically and just deliver to my house. [SPEAKER_02]: The only thing stopping me from feeling bad would be like the extra packaging waste.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes they do this thing where I go on Home Depot to look to see if they have something, and it's not in stock, but it is at like the location, not in a 20 miles away. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, I'm just not going to drive at that point. [SPEAKER_01]: But I always see it's like, oh, order now with like Instacart. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And I could have them bring that string type of glue, you know, for like a delivery fee. [SPEAKER_00]: For 400 hours.

[SPEAKER_00]: I never do it. [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not that much. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's like 20 bucks. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay. [SPEAKER_01]: We're like, yeah, there's something. [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a lot. [SPEAKER_01]: I just feel a bad number one. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Number two, it's like, I don't need it that bad. [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if I would pay like a big fee. [SPEAKER_01]: I think I should invest in drone delivery.

[SPEAKER_02]: I do feel very strongly about. [SPEAKER_01]: The overnight is only three bucks on Amazon. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: And I still don't do that a lot of the time. [SPEAKER_01]: So unless I happen to get above 25 dollars. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I never pay it. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I, I think that if I, because like I was, oh, it's kind of leads into another one of my problems this week. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of animal death in this podcast. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm so sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: Um, this one's flies though. [SPEAKER_02]: So, um, that does that make up for it. [SPEAKER_02]: The house was infested with these like drain flies like forward flies or whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: And, and so like it was bad. [SPEAKER_02]: And I need to kill them. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: So like what website do you think I use? [SPEAKER_01]: chat GPT. [SPEAKER_02]: No, Amazon.com. [SPEAKER_02]: I know. [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I use because like what you don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: What would you use? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's like, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, and it's like, okay, there's a problem. [SPEAKER_02]: There's flies in my house, hundreds of them. [SPEAKER_02]: And they're not, like, house flies are like these, they're not knats, they're not fruit flies. [SPEAKER_02]: They're like a little bit bigger.

[SPEAKER_02]: They made these, like, horrible little brown, like, rice, granule things everywhere, which I think were like the little... [SPEAKER_02]: The Christmas, the Christmas, whatever. [SPEAKER_02]: And I like need to make these go away. [SPEAKER_02]: Like they were in my child's like diaper pale. [SPEAKER_02]: They were in the cat's litter box. [SPEAKER_02]: Like in the robot litter box, they were completely infesting the inside of it. [SPEAKER_01]: We what was for a girth lie?

[SPEAKER_02]: Orid like PHO or ID. [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what they were like, I just sort of, it's close enough. [SPEAKER_02]: They were, it was like getting to the point like for Hall of Ween, we had family over and we made a salad and we've in, like second There are flies, he's tiny little flies in the salad and they're stupid and don't you cannot Do flies, what if I think? [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were in the litter box.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was like fully tweaked and so I like I go on my favorite website that I actually is probably where I spend most of my money [SPEAKER_02]: and immediately spent like a hundred dollars on like cleaning and chemical like an insecticide and so I'm like I need it now and I know that like home depot is not going to sell the good stuff but you're lucky if Amazon sells it, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Like the, um, [SPEAKER_02]: I like, if I could have gotten that stuff within the hour and like paid for that delivery to be like done by a drone or whatever, I would absolutely have done it to get rid of an infestation of flies that you could just feel like rapidly accelerating.

[SPEAKER_01]: It says that they can lay up to like 100 eggs at a time and the females can lay up to 750 eggs in their lifetime and the time from egg to adulthood is eight to like 14 days. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: So that's like you have a population doubling like every week. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was really bad. [SPEAKER_02]: You were like at the like this entire house is going to be completely filled through the room. [SPEAKER_01]: Right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was freaking out. [SPEAKER_02]: Like it was so disgusting. [SPEAKER_02]: And in like the more I like I'm searching the more. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I saw I found a post on red. [SPEAKER_02]: It was guys like I'm thinking of selling my house. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that many. [SPEAKER_01]: He just couldn't get rid of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I could not hear like, oh, no. [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, all right, I'm going to scorched earth. [SPEAKER_01]: This. [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I, like, no, I'm not going to buy something and see if that works and buy another thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to buy something that says it's scented. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no chemical I buy during this procedure will advertise itself ascended.

[SPEAKER_02]: It will come in a bland container with no pedigraphics black and white labels and it just has the chemical name. [SPEAKER_01]: There is no marketing in the the cancer or the taxes in warning. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to viral of VX nerve gas. [SPEAKER_02]: They don't try to dress it up. [SPEAKER_02]: Nope. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no sales pitch. [SPEAKER_02]: There's no art. [SPEAKER_02]: It's this is not a bottle of wine with flowers on it.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the word enzyme cleaner. [SPEAKER_02]: And Amazon basic next to it. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm cleaner. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no pesticide. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_02]: I bought multiple things. [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin. [SPEAKER_02]: So then the the chemical was like some SIO brick and who even knows. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you guys have this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is, if anyone has these flies or drain flies, I'm going, I'm going to, I'm we're going to drop some chemicals on you. [SPEAKER_02]: Do not buy raid, do not buy any of this shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Are you sure? [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, no, you try it. [SPEAKER_02]: Huh? [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck now. [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, you go to Home Depot. [SPEAKER_02]: You buy rubber gloves. [SPEAKER_02]: You buy a spray bottle. [SPEAKER_02]: You do a little bit of kind of at home DIY chemistry.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you can, if you can cook, you can make hell. [SPEAKER_02]: You can kill exactly how I feel. [SPEAKER_03]: Sayano, and methyl, dimethyl, I don't know how to read this. [SPEAKER_01]: What's the last part of the ano? [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very spread of part. [SPEAKER_02]: You read this. [SPEAKER_00]: Sayano, dimethyl. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they gave it like the actual chemical name. [SPEAKER_00]: What is it, Kevin? [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, cyanow.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay. [SPEAKER_01]: It's beta, sci-flue-do-rin. [SPEAKER_01]: See why I looked up, dude. [SPEAKER_00]: I looked up beta and that was the second option. [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, flu-thrin. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, long story short, I fucked these flies up, and I swear to God, 12 hours. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, do you get a bottle like this year, right? [SPEAKER_01]: 12 hours. [SPEAKER_01]: Every single fly was cooked. [SPEAKER_01]: Be your tempo.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was, you know, I, not even, not even a pest control company would offer the service that I committed to my house. [SPEAKER_02]: I decimated this fly population. [SPEAKER_02]: It's called Tempo SE Ultra. [SPEAKER_02]: If you have a fly problem, I can vouch that it absolutely fucked their shit up bad. [SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was like on call in my own house.

[SPEAKER_02]: Every time my cat took a shit, I would walk over to the litter box, pull the drawer out because it's a, uh, uh, a litter robot one. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And I would see if there was any flies in there. [SPEAKER_02]: And if there were, I would do another spritzing of the diluted insecticide. [SPEAKER_01]: And I was, I bet you have to really dilute it to like parts per million or something, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Something like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I only did it, like, four to one. [SPEAKER_02]: He asked us, what kind, how does it work though? [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_01]: Nigel, you know, are you reading? [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, says it's neurotoxic. [SPEAKER_00]: So I was going to say that it's a pyrethroid. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's a pyrethroid. [SPEAKER_02]: Also anyone who knows anything about this is probably going to go. [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's why you're fished out because it's really bad for fish.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that it had the fish killed itself before this. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a synthetic insecticide modeled after natural pyrethrons. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm pronouncing it right. [SPEAKER_00]: Found in Krasanthamum flowers. [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting. [SPEAKER_00]: So what does it make a lot of stuff is like this summer dogs, you know, we in tech. [SPEAKER_00]: So they're they're all nerve agents.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I wonder what does it actually act on like the sodium gated channels or something. [SPEAKER_00]: I think I actually did read some. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's excited to talk to it. [SPEAKER_00]: It prevents the closure of the sodium channels. [SPEAKER_02]: Is it a painful death? [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I believe it. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is. [SPEAKER_00]: Good. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, good.

[SPEAKER_03]: Good. [SPEAKER_03]: Good. [SPEAKER_01]: It literally, uh, uh, maybe not that as it like the kind where it makes all their muscles work at the same time or not work. [SPEAKER_00]: It says that, um, [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Excitotoxics, I mean, that's actually worth actually brutal. [SPEAKER_00]: So they alter what part is a lot of insecticides actually are they're kind of messed up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the most common ones are literally seren analogs that don't that aren't as toxic for humans. [SPEAKER_00]: that you can still get poisoned, but it's like you're spraying your fields with sarin gas. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just completely making and that affects the, um, what's it called, uh, my brain's fried right now. [SPEAKER_00]: The bugs. [SPEAKER_00]: It, yeah, but it'll make them convuls and have like a lot of issues.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where's this one seems to be a little bit more forgiving in the sense that it says that, I mean, it prevents it blocks their sodium channels. [SPEAKER_00]: So once they're nerve fires, it cannot refire. [SPEAKER_00]: So it ends up making one more move.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it's it so I feel like that's I don't know if it causes like you know seizures and all those other things where is I'm pretty sure Seren does because oh yeah, it's a seedle calling so I'm pretty sure the seren stuff blocks your system from [SPEAKER_00]: taking like from removing a seal Colleen. [SPEAKER_00]: So it just keeps sending signals and like you just I'd actually maybe it's backwards. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_00]: Don't quote me on any of this.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the part that I said was messed up about the this one was it said it's usually they pair this thing with a it's synergistically with a p50 enzyme inhibitor, which prevents the bug from breaking down the poison. [SPEAKER_00]: So they literally give you the poison and they block you from metabolizing it so it like turbo screws them over [SPEAKER_02]: there's not a lot of flies in my house flying around the forest.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's probably not a lot of any bucket at the point. [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I did. [SPEAKER_00]: That's a giving somebody syanite and going, I'm also going to put the thing that blocks the syanite break down. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to also give you the thing that blocks the the cure for syanite. [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_00]: And it does. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like really gets here.

[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, you know, like, the more I was reading and like, okay, they, like, breed and sort of, like, organic matter too. [SPEAKER_02]: So that's, I think, like, drain flies. [SPEAKER_02]: They, I'm assuming, we'll, like, all dude, the smagma that develops inside of your garbage is possible. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, every time if you have to put your hand in the garbage, it's a bad day. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's so nasty. [SPEAKER_00]: I just want to say one thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: So actually by chance, I was right, the seren blocks the breakdown of a seedle calling. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's the opposite. [SPEAKER_00]: Your body cannot stop the nervous system from firing. [SPEAKER_00]: So when it sends an impulse to like make your muscles go. [SPEAKER_00]: There's no way to break it. [SPEAKER_00]: It prevents it's breaking down. [SPEAKER_00]: So you start getting like random contractions, convulsions, you'll see your, you'll start my answer, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: Like it loses, the symptoms are continuous nerve signal transmission, muscle spasms and twitching, or over stimulation of glands and organs, which will lead to brooding, tearing, [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you, it just, your whole system is the opposite. [SPEAKER_00]: So like, there's a bit of mercy I find, like slow paralysis versus you can't stop.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like you just keep getting more elevated to the point where it's like your anxiety goes through the roof. [SPEAKER_00]: Like your entire nervous system just over clocks and cooks itself. [SPEAKER_00]: Until you literally lose the ability to breathe and that's when you pass out. [SPEAKER_00]: Or like, I think your heart starts pounding like crazy. [SPEAKER_00]: Like everything just goes over is that the bugs at least just slow down with your method.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just follow the first thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Then I, I just clean the floor a bit out of the garbage disposal and I, like for the ends, I'm cleaner supposedly just helps you break down all the biological material that builds up. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And then I got a drill brush that attaches to my drill.

[SPEAKER_02]: Remed the shit out of the garbage suppose I like pulled the rubber flap out cleaned everything Yeah, or you know like before I after everyone went to bed I like poured the the ends. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm cleaning it on the drains. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's sit overnight.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and then flush everything with hot water in the wind Yeah, I there like I saw I think a couple of stragglers in the morning and then like I don't know less than less than a 24 hours later It was like fully just no flash [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Nice. [SPEAKER_02]: So that I'm I'm proud of that one. [SPEAKER_02]: Best hundred dollars I were spent. [SPEAKER_02]: If they had drone delivery, I would have used it.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know how bad one fly is that won't leave you alone can just win the instant of like 50 of them imagine anything you put on the counter any food you sit down will have flies he's like tiny flies in it that was what set that was like for me that was like the flies are so much grosser than ants you know I could deal with like you know I see an ant on the plate I like look at off but if I see like a fly on my sandwich I'm like uh the salad the lasagna they like literally would just

[SPEAKER_02]: They would like homocosy and to everything you can't swath them away. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: It was like little, like these, it was not good. [SPEAKER_02]: It was not good. [SPEAKER_02]: It made me feel a certain way and I did not, I did not take kindly to there. [SPEAKER_01]: You know why I know that you really didn't like them? [SPEAKER_01]: Because you didn't even like start scheming about like fun ways. [SPEAKER_01]: Like a video or a short, you're just like, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not saying like you just get mad at them. [SPEAKER_00]: So you just literally like you know like the Geneva convention prevents You know This to each other Yeah, and then but you're just like no, I'm gonna I'm gonna use nerve agents and destroy everything [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, this is gonna be really bad for you. [SPEAKER_02]: It might kill all the spiders of my collect. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care. [SPEAKER_02]: There's flies in my sound right now.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm really not okay with that. [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, the spiders did their job. [SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't be exactly. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they would have that problem. [SPEAKER_01]: Right, back to shit. [SPEAKER_00]: Here's your weird. [SPEAKER_00]: His spiders are not buns, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I think they're barely, they're in fact. [SPEAKER_00]: No, they're definitely barely there because they're in a rack nids.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, they aren't No, I'm especially, I think all the bugs, though, some of them are by, uh, by what you did, but I do know that I remember looking it up like I think I was talking about like a spider in frustration with someone and they're like, yeah, you can't attack it with like [SPEAKER_00]: lines actually, I agree. [SPEAKER_00]: They're not like bugs. [SPEAKER_00]: They're a little bit in a few areas. [SPEAKER_01]: They're targeted.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I think that when you when you like hire a pest control company and they come in and they spray around your perimeter of your house or up in the eaves, they're not using right and they're not using any of these other things they're using. [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, they use they're probably actually using like what you [SPEAKER_00]: What is the thing that, yeah, but like, they're always these, I would say [SPEAKER_00]: Because bugs are, you know, there's nervous systems.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're not, they're in the, like insects are in the world like animalia, right? [SPEAKER_00]: Like they're in the same kingdom or whatever. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what the right term in biology is. [SPEAKER_00]: But there is crossover effects. [SPEAKER_00]: So like all the stuff you get at home depot are the things where they're like, yeah, we found the difference with bugs and like, so only get them. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like they're totally different.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like pathways for some stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: But that's the one where they get them, where it's like, oh, you want to get rid of like certain mites or like bad bugs and they give you like the, I want to get rid of the mites, but I want to leave the bad bugs. [SPEAKER_00]: What product? [SPEAKER_00]: No, like, where's it when you get an exterminator? [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, no, we're going to put something in here that if you're here, you will experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: it's so strong. [SPEAKER_00]: Give me that. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like not so targeted to the bug that it's still a bug thing, but if you're there, you're going to start to understand what the bugs are going through. [SPEAKER_00]: So they're like you have to leave the house. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to ask you about the very important question right now. [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to answer.

[SPEAKER_00]: You should pump ozone in your house and leave. [SPEAKER_00]: I probably can throw the odors and anything else. [SPEAKER_02]: Everything. [SPEAKER_02]: All right. [SPEAKER_02]: Here's my proposition. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Then I think we're about to sort of, we're about to, I think, have a very interesting explanation of the reality of the importance of the safety of these chemicals. [SPEAKER_02]: Would you rather live to 80 years old?

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_02]: and never have to deal with flies in your food in lasagna or like every day of your life it's a bug free existence or no, I'm going to put this up. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a bug for it's okay. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_01]: No, I want to live to be here. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, wait, let me start.

[SPEAKER_02]: You, okay, would you rather live to be 80 and you never use insecticide in your house that caused you problems and you lived every day with flies in your salad and your tea and your

[SPEAKER_02]: Would you rather never have to do with flies in your coffee in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in your heart, in

[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I like the stuff that Nigel's talking about, they're just like obviously poisonous to people, but it doesn't hang around for very long. [SPEAKER_01]: We're like a dry season. [SPEAKER_00]: It's like ozone or something. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_01]: Or even some of the, I don't know what they do. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they, the most, like the few McGence. [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they do, like in, like, stir.

[SPEAKER_00]: Minnator, you'm again, chemical. [SPEAKER_00]: What are they? [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's, it's self, floral, sulfur, sulfur, sulfur fluoride. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So, and phosphine. [SPEAKER_01]: They use phosphine? [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they do. [SPEAKER_01]: But those are pellets that they throw like ingrain. [SPEAKER_01]: And then they release. [SPEAKER_00]: Because the whole point is that phosphine will take you out. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like there's a little pellets and go for holes and stuff in it. [SPEAKER_01]: Gas. [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think my dad once there's like a water. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you need to make it. [SPEAKER_00]: They even do metal bromide. [SPEAKER_01]: That's like actually a war gas for go first.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they used in World War I and it's like, you know, how something can be like, you know, toxic or like, a mutagen or like, you know, mixing everything. [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, everything. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does. [SPEAKER_00]: And it takes out the ozone layer too. [SPEAKER_00]: or assaulting the field, yeah, it's a, it, it causes damage to the lungs, the nervous system, and it takes out the, yeah, the OSA. [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the term, I just do it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: uh yeah i think that's probably like the only time in my life we've had like bugs that were actually like made me yeah like ants sock but they they're manageable and they're pretty cool like yeah [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, here, there are so many ants everywhere that I don't feel so bad. [SPEAKER_02]: It will, they, they were, they're pretty bad. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sometimes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes, but yeah, you never know. [SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, yeah, no, I, I, you know, you can leave food out and it's like, most of the time they're not going to mess with it, but then sometimes they just go crazy.

[SPEAKER_02]: or you have no food and they just like come in and oh yeah crap up like sometimes we have no food up and they go into the garbage as a puzzle yeah yeah yeah you need some enzyme you need some Amazon basics enzyme cleaner I'll bring the bucket of it and you'd methyl bromide yeah I'll give you some of my enzyme cleaner and my drill brush um all right I got I have a couple of other things what tell me what's the most interesting I have a solar story or solar idea [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: What's more interesting to you. [SPEAKER_03]: Solar Wi-Fi. [SPEAKER_03]: What? [SPEAKER_03]: Why? [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to be like talk about one more thing. [SPEAKER_02]: What do you want to talk about? [SPEAKER_02]: I wrote down topics for today. [SPEAKER_00]: What can you say to get? [SPEAKER_02]: What's more interesting to you? [SPEAKER_02]: Solar panels are Wi-Fi. [SPEAKER_00]: What can you did say that?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what do you have anything you'd like to add on this creepy. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I saw you for some reason for some reason. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was not that I'm choosing a topic. [SPEAKER_00]: All right, we'll talk about Wi-Fi. [SPEAKER_02]: I have a Wi-Fi thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I have some beef to pick. [SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were saying what is better. [SPEAKER_00]: Solar panels are Wi-Fi.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, why don't I have a little bit of a completely legitimate question. [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, well, can I add to this question? [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean they're not even the same thing?

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm talking about, Wi-Fi is there anything you like I would like to bitch about Lines tech tips and all these tech to you like you started it's where they were already there You know what I was thinking everyone's like you got to buy ubiquity you got to go spend Thousands of dollars on equipment you know what I realized too is so expensive on Facebook marketplace right now

[SPEAKER_02]: And then I can run Ethernet cables all around my house and set them up and like actually for a hundred dollars, I can have like Wi-Fi that your average person could only dream of. [SPEAKER_02]: Is it something special about the Google? [SPEAKER_02]: No, they just mesh together and so you end up with this like seamless mesh network. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, instead of a bunch of different SSIDs. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like you know when I walk up to your house.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it will stick to the Wi-Fi here, but the signal's really weak. [SPEAKER_02]: And it works, which already works just weak. [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's, yeah, and it's two different networks. [SPEAKER_02]: Like what we should do is just have the same user and password. [SPEAKER_02]: But that still doesn't even do the mesh network thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Like, basically, like, I ran a Ethernet cable, like, all the way to the freaking shipping containers.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I, I like, put a global Wi-Fi unit that I got on a Facebook marketplace for $20. [SPEAKER_02]: That's nice. [SPEAKER_02]: And now, you just have like, I speed Wi-Fi down there. [SPEAKER_01]: Why? [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to ask the same thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Why? [SPEAKER_02]: Why use ubiquity over $20 Facebook marketplace Google I thought you were trying to do. [SPEAKER_00]: I have ubiquity I like. [SPEAKER_01]: What are you trying to do? [SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to do?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like the long range point to point like you don't I mean I use it as my server to like manage my I've all Like security cameras and cameras are nice. [SPEAKER_01]: They're very nice [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I am. [SPEAKER_00]: And then I do have like my white, my wireless access points through it, but seeing how locked in that ecosystem is, I would never buy anything else from them. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to start going down that path.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if I went like, did I love it? [SPEAKER_02]: Really, I mean, if I went like full tits, I feel like it is the right answer, or at least a good answer. [SPEAKER_02]: But, [SPEAKER_02]: Like from a pragmatic standpoint, I genuinely don't know what I would, like why wouldn't just spend the $100 on the, like use network equipment from Facebook that your average can see doesn't want anymore. [SPEAKER_00]: what's your question.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want I want to get a networking person as a guest in this podcast so we can just ask them why their hobby is why it's so fucking important to spend I'm a nice person. [SPEAKER_00]: Are you? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dude. [SPEAKER_00]: I I love network. [SPEAKER_01]: Why okay then why never if had anything else besides you Beckwoody? [SPEAKER_01]: Have you I have keep feeling yeah, yeah, what's the blue one. [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was TP link.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did a link says D link. [SPEAKER_00]: Oh link basically Back in the day I have nightmares because nothing worked

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was the, everything always had problems, you know, the user interface sucked things glitched out ubiquity was one of the first networking solutions I ever used that just worked and it's because I met a dude at a YouTube, I went to a random YouTube thing in New York and I was like trying to figure out stuff with like security cameras and I was looking up everything and he's like dude just. [SPEAKER_00]: get some basic ubiquity stuff and it was and I'll help you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you tips and to be fair, this was in like 2019. [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably when I got my stuff. [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't as streamlined. [SPEAKER_00]: So even when I tried to set it up, there was like some hiccups. [SPEAKER_00]: But it was way better compared to all those other random systems where it would be like, I don't know, I go to like one company. [SPEAKER_00]: You look at it. [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, we have all the security cameras.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they go, it's like, where, where do I store the data? [SPEAKER_00]: And people are, oh, well, you need to get this other company's thing. [SPEAKER_00]: And you can hook it up to the, you know, connected to the network. [SPEAKER_00]: And it will just stream and then nothing ever interfaces, right? [SPEAKER_00]: So it was kind of nice when they just had [SPEAKER_00]: the things that would work together and I would just plug in and it would just kind of it would just work.

[SPEAKER_01]: I remember when my friend first showed me that stuff, I'm like, you know, I got myself a camera. [SPEAKER_01]: And I liked so much. [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, wow, I should buy stock in this company. [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I thought it was that easy and clean compared to any I've had security cameras before. [SPEAKER_01]: It just worked so well. [SPEAKER_01]: And it was so clean, you big Woody. [SPEAKER_01]: And I just remember, I wanted their cameras because they were nice cameras.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then I realized I have to buy their NVR solution. [SPEAKER_01]: Like I couldn't just use the RTSP and put it on my NAS. [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'm saying, you, you, you're kind of, it's like the apple and then technology, if you do want to use security cameras with technology, they make you buy licenses, persecutory camera per year. [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, are you kidding me? [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for it's personality, it's insane.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's worse. [SPEAKER_01]: I know. [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's worse. [SPEAKER_01]: They're both pretty bad. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's the thing with security cameras, like I think that the instant I I like hammer this into my head. [SPEAKER_02]: I realized that it like it like it kind of cured a part of my brain. [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone loves the idea security cameras because why do you have security cameras, Kevin, but you can see who left the dead cat in your yard.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he has security cameras. [SPEAKER_01]: Why do you see the mouse that you stepped on in the garage? [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we Kevin said also it's like, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: You like to believe that one day you'll catch a burger, but most of the time is for when I do something and go, yeah, thank God I had it on camera.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically what security cameras give you is the ability to relive the trauma of being violated when someone steals your crap and then nobody will ever do anything to the other great thing about security cameras is if they're always running and you're like we're sitting in a room and we have an argument and then one person's a guy never said that you go pull up the footage. [SPEAKER_00]: No, don't be that guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

[SPEAKER_02]: for like a system just because of security cameras are good pretty much to me only make sense if you're if you're like doing YouTube and you're like, oh, here's footage of a thing that happened they were able to pull from the cameras, right? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I cannot imagine actually having the footage rolling being more effective than just saying up.

[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be camera to try to scare people away like you're just going to be able to watch them commit the crime Yeah, and violate your personal space and you will not be able to do anything about it [SPEAKER_02]: don't do anything. [SPEAKER_02]: They will not do anything. [SPEAKER_02]: And even if they do, it doesn't matter because it's insurance that's going to take over and pay you for remedy because like your stuff's gone at that point. [SPEAKER_02]: You're not getting it back.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: And if it wasn't worth anything, they just like threw it away or threw it to the side of the road. [SPEAKER_01]: I have like this one, the ubiquity, they're tiny little camera. [SPEAKER_01]: What is it called? [SPEAKER_01]: The quick connect or something. [SPEAKER_01]: So I've wanted those. [SPEAKER_01]: I usually keep it like in the kitchen or they're living room. [SPEAKER_01]: So I like to see what my dogs are up to when I'm gone.

[SPEAKER_01]: And my girlfriend hates me having a camera on in the house. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't like it. [SPEAKER_01]: You know what the thing is, it's all stored locally, right? [SPEAKER_01]: There's no cloud, except there kind of is. [SPEAKER_00]: But what I use the ubiquity, and you know, I should as a like it is because one time, oh no, what happened?

[SPEAKER_01]: I did what Nigel did, and she told me, oh, we have to be at our friend's house like, you know, at this time, and I thought she said this time. [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, oh, I have the camera, but actually she was in on it because she she thought she was right. [SPEAKER_01]: I thought I was right. [SPEAKER_01]: So we were both like, okay, let's check it out. [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see. [SPEAKER_01]: She was right. [SPEAKER_01]: I was wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't like that. [SPEAKER_01]: But she I mean, she still. [SPEAKER_02]: Were you warning him not to do that? [SPEAKER_02]: Because he might be wrong. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_00]: But it actually, it actually was funny because like probably the most we've done with it honestly is just get random footage because remember I told you I burned my arm it's like that saved that was just I thought was interesting.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, how much money did you spend on that ubiquity set up to record footage if you burning your arm with a hop. [SPEAKER_00]: What it actually is done, those items you have and you share with the audience. [SPEAKER_00]: I have to be able to I have to find it where I put it, but I found like I use it for when I when I'm doing projects, the whole room is always filmed.

[SPEAKER_00]: So even like one of the projects that I did recently, [SPEAKER_00]: It saved me because I didn't realize when I was filming, I went out of the frame, but then I was like, thank God, I have some garbage security footage to show me what I was doing. [SPEAKER_00]: It's still terrible, but it saves it. [SPEAKER_00]: And it's been things were too, where I'm like, I built a project over time. [SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's see over a couple of weeks.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, damn, I wish I timelopsed it, but I'm like, oh, wait, I actually have the timelops, because of the security footage. [SPEAKER_00]: It has actually helped me. [SPEAKER_00]: like in terms of content. [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_00]: I think that that does make sense with the project fall apart if I didn't have it.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, but the one thing I do like Kevin mentioned it, I have these wireless cameras that you have to plug them in and they'll just connect and I have a phone app. [SPEAKER_00]: So when I have to leave and I'm like a little bit, I want to monitor it. [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just plug it in and I have it on a tripod.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just plug it in and [SPEAKER_00]: put it in place and then I can watch it on my phone and it's like really easy of the other systems you can do that with but it's like I just have it it's all integrated kind of into like one system which I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: I keep nagging the the prusa team with pictures of my prusa camera set up where I just have this like $30 Amazon PTZ camera. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was like hey hey look at how I figure out what color the filament is on each of my printers. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, look at the, look, I figure out that my printer is printing and I just like move it out because I can see the four, the four and the XL from the same camera by just like panning up and down remotely. [SPEAKER_01]: That's funny. [SPEAKER_02]: It works great.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like I literally using a security camera like view in the garage remotely so I don't have to get up and walk this. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's do the extra thing. [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody supports this over on Patreon. [SPEAKER_02]: You are the reason that we can pay John and he can eat food. [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to go to the extra and Nigel's going to show us that footage of him burning himself with a hot pocket.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to show us his keyboard right his keyboard and he's going to tell us how big it is and he's finally going to play us a song on the guitar. [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. [SPEAKER_02]: Singing Japanese. [SPEAKER_01]: No. [SPEAKER_00]: I have I've been trying to make content. [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have I thought you just knew how to play guitar. [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll get into that. [SPEAKER_00]: I told you I had like a memory lapse and I just completely memory loss or laps.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think loss. [SPEAKER_02]: I will see you guys on Patreon, links in the description below if you want to support us and get extra podcasts every time I post a podcast. [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of them. [SPEAKER_03]: You get them all. [SPEAKER_03]: We love you. [SPEAKER_03]: I love you. [SPEAKER_03]: I love you. [SPEAKER_03]: Nigel. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to stop the recording now, right? [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you don't have to say it back.