Don't Box Her In - podcast episode cover

Don't Box Her In

Mar 11, 20251 hr 12 min
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

This episode I'm joined by the gorgeous Summer Wilder. She is a MILF porn star who got into the business after a divorce. She talks about her entry into the business and her she day she did a G/G , B/G and a threesome. She discuss her doing a lot of things for the first time sexually thru porn from DP, gangbangs and etc. We discuss how mainstream companies and talent agencies typecast ladies with tats and she discuss she don't want to be boxed into one thing nor do she wants do everything in her first year. She talks about her military background and life onset and off set as a pornstar.

Want More Content? 2 ways to get it

1. Subscribe my Savage Smoke Sessions on Spotify ( $4.99 a month)

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/smokethisova/subscribe⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

2. Become A Premium Smoker

Subscribe to the Premium Smoke Room On Loyalfans

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.loyalfans.com/PremiumSmokeRoom⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Want More Content. Become a Premium Smoker

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for 5 Premium Podcasts , Special Events and More $25.99 a month

Sponsored By

Hottest Adult Mag Online

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://eroticismmagazine.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Hottest Adult Film Company

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠blusherotica.com/videos⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Best Scented Candles On The Net

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thekinkycandleco.etsy.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Queen Of Law

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/dividenqueen/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Porn/ Music/ Social Media

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://allmylinks.com/pornrapstar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Get The Merch:

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.bonfire.com/store/s-t-o-merch-store/⁠⁠⁠⁠

Guest: Summer Wilder

https://x.com/SummerWilderXXX

linktr.ee/jesscooper2211

Transcript

Doing all the intros and stuff like that, just like start with conversation. And with that being said, how are you doing tonight, gorgeous? I am doing so good. How are you? I am doing pretty good, pretty good getting ready for this Thanksgiving cooking and feast and all that good stuff. The holiday season. I know. And and and Are you ready for the holiday season? Oh my gosh, no, I'm not.

It has been so crazy. Me and my roommate just moved into a new house, so we're just scrambling to get things situated. We're doing a Friendsgiving tomorrow, so it's just like getting everything up and ready. Yeah, it's, it's crazy. Oh my goody. So who's doing the cookie? Neither of us. We're ordering family style meals from this place and then we're having all our friends bring like their favorite dishes. Oh my God, so. So somebody going to be ballsy enough to bring a Turkey watch?

I hope, I don't know. I hope not. Like I'm not expecting anybody to bring a Turkey. I'm ordering some chicken and some other things, you know, some ham maybe. But if someone brings a Turkey, that's great. That'll be awesome. I told my brother for. Sure, she's OK. That was a nice hit. The smokers know that he's the smoker. Oh, yeah. See, the smokers know it's a smokers lounge. And we do smoke on this show where we feel like, you know,

but not everybody's smoking. Come on, smokers lounge because they're like running jokes. They're like, do I have to smoke? I'm like, no, you, you don't have to smoke. No, you just have to. I don't smoke. Just have to talk. Actually I just had my first experience with weed literally this last Saturday because I don't smoke, I don't do anything. I just. Word. And it was amazing. I had like two hits of this blunt that one of our friends had and it was, I was so giggly, I was so high.

And I learned what Cross faded was because I was drunk. And then I had that that babe, that blunt and I was like living. It was awesome. Oh my God, I remember the first time I I smoked. I was in college and we lived in suites. So it was like 4 rooms in the suite. And when my best friend lived over in the across the hall and every time he had the baddest girls from NC State come over there to smoke with them. I'm over there drinking and

smoking a black and mild. So one day I'm sitting there looking, I'm seeing them gigging, then they getting high, they rolling joints. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm that old and we would roll joints. It was a transition from joints to blunts when I started smoking. OK people. So yeah, telling my age if my beard don't. But the point being, I said fuck it, let me hit that shit and that's it. Hit that mind for all that and I've been smoking ever since. There, you know?

If I can have that feeling every time then I would probably smoke all the time too. But I know there's so many different strands. There's so much different types of weed. Like they asked me what I wanted and I was like, I just want to be calm, cool, relaxed, with a little bit of energy. And this guy was like, oh, I have the perfect one for you. Here you go. I was like, OK, so I don't know what. You live where it's legal. I live where I I I live where

it's illegal. But we have legal weed which is the THC shit. Right, right. But it's not bad but I still want real weed. I'm sorry I just I just experienced mushrooms at at 49. So what did you whoa. I have, I've had I've tried mushrooms. I had one really good experience and one really bad experience right after the other literally the next day and I was like never trying that again. Like, it's just not like you can never get the same effect, you know? It's so mental.

Like your mental has to be right. The vibe has to be right. And so because of that, I was like, I tried it. I can check it off my list. Never again. Like when people's faces are, I was just like, OK, this needs to end. Lord have mercy. So with that being said hello smokers it's time to smoke this over welcome to the smokers lounge. You know who I am y'all don't careless y'all want to see her but you got to deal with me for

right now. You know who I am I'm Kevin all the subway champ AKA the porn rap star find all my links with one link on mymeets.com back slash porn rap star 4 sponsors. I'm going to go through real quickly. The first one being the wonderful arisesmagazine.com. Next up, award-winning, award nominated voice over with smut. And they even got virtual reality. I'm talking about blusherotica.com for you people that love candles, the kinky Candle Company. Yeah. And if you need legal help,

she's sexy. She's the queen of law. Her name is Mitchell Ferrari. Links in the description. Also you can find me in the mornings at fullswatradio.com five days out of the week. Also check out SGP radio.com I'm on there as well as well as Skyhawk after talktv.com. Now you see this gorgeous ass lady. Now she's looking like mild pedestrian a little bit you know sexy tattooed up housewife ish. But don't let that fool you, she's she's a ex military, yes tattooed up freaky ass lady.

She can eat pussy, she can deep through a Dick and ride it and do it all at the same time. She's the wild one. But I'm going to show up and let her tell you who she is. Hey guys, I am so Wilder. Thank you so much for having me on. I'm so excited. Oh, no doubt it is my pleasure because see I got to ask you this because I always say swing is the gateway drug to porn.

You know, webcam escort but I'm starting to notice military is becoming that because it's a lot of military ex military there it. Is yeah, who knew? You know, all those years, like Rick Regimen just made our like, freak just come out as soon as we got out. Like, I don't want any rules. I want to beat myself and just have fun and not have to worry about anybody else but me. That's great. Because it's to me, it's like this. Is it true that military ladies

are the freakiest ladies? Yeah, probably. Same with like Catholic school girls. And I'm both. I went to a Catholic school my entire life, private school from kinder to high school. And then I went straight into the military and here I am doing poor so. Oh. My God, how many years was you in the military, baby? I was there for 11 years. I did AI, was a lifer. I would still be in right now, but some things happened and I had to get out. So. Oh, I feel you. I feel you.

And so for you, before we go into The Time Machine, you, you are a lady that I can see here and say has been making a strong name in this business. So for you, what is it about this business that if someone asks you well, what you love about this business so much, what would you tell them? Honestly, everybody that I've met so far, like all of my best friends I met because I started this journey, like all of my closest friends that I've literally met within the last

year are all in the industry. And you know, I know a lot of people have different experiences, but my experience so far has been so wonderful. Like meeting the people and just getting to travel and meeting everybody has just been really fucking awesome. Like everybody is so fucking chill. Granted, there's a few bad seats, but you know at in my experience, the people have just been awesome. Yes, the sex is awesome and everything else and like creating some fun stuff and like. Having my.

First experiences with certain things has been really amazing and you know, it's awesome to be able to explore myself and my sexuality. But honestly, like having the people in my life now, I wouldn't have them in my life if I hadn't started this fucking journey. And it's just been amazing and I'm so grateful for that. Well, see people now you know what we're about to hear. They should start the journey. What got Miss Summer Wilder into

the porn business? So it's a super long story, but the short and sweet of it is is that back in the day I was an esthetician and I met a creator that lived in my small town in Texas and I hadn't really heard of what Only Fans was. I just knew it was porn and her and I got really close and one thing led to another. She introduced me to some people and I had just started like exploring my sexuality and my wants and my needs. You know, like I was in a bad

marriage. I, you know, my ex-husband would fuck me and I would have to literally roll over and masturbate like he was in and out. It was just so ungratifying. It was toxic. And so again, back to like, having that freedom to explore and to be freaky without judgement. And so, yeah, this all happened like about a year and a half ago, you know? And so it was the right place, right time. And yeah, it was. It happened pretty quick, actually.

I had baptism by fire. I shot my first video in the British Virgin Islands, like on this deserted island. OK, then we bout to unpack that real fast. We bout to unpack that real fast. Because before we go any further, how did you land this shoot? And Oh yeah, we, we, we bout to paint the picture here. Go ahead. OK so back to the same girl that I met in my small town in Texas. She invited me on the 12 day cruise in the British Virgin Islands to live on a catamaran for 12 to 14 days.

OK and there was a bunch of other craters. There was 4 couples and they were all creators except myself and my ex-boyfriend. And we had already started talking about possibly doing only fans and porn and things like that. And so while we were on this boat, you know, these are big creators and they're filming also, they're filming threesomes, they're filming DVP. And we're on this boat like whoa, I'm telling you, baptism

by fire just like straight. And we were on this island called Cooper Island and we were like, fuck it, let's go. And so one of the guys, he runs like a little production company and he was like, we're going to this island, it's deserted, let's just fucking go, let's get you guys out there. And so we took the little dinghy to this deserted island and had our first scene out on this beautiful beach. And it was, it was crazy. Oh my God, so you shot with so you shot with your ex am I correct?

Yeah, yes, yes. We started together and then we broke up and I rebranded. I changed my name to Summer Wilder and you know, because before I was only doing girl, girl and like content with him. And so once we ended that, I just threw myself in all the way to the peak of it. Literally started doing everything, everyone, all the things. Well, with that being said, now hold on, before we even go any further, the day when smokers

know this story. See, it's always after that terrible marriage that a woman rediscovers herself sexually. Once again proves my point. Our sexual taste change with age. Oh absolutely, yeah, for sure. And you learn and you experience, you know, if you were to talk to me in my 20s and say, Oh my God, Summer, you're going to have two Dicks in your pussy, I'll be like, Oh my God, absolutely not. No, You know, Like, I would be gassed. But now it's like, why not?

Why not fucking try it? You know, I didn't even know I can squirt until I got into this industry. You know, I think learning everything about myself and my body and what I like and don't like has just been great. And even exploring past that and exploring fetishes, you know, and kinks and things like that, that I would have never imagined, You know, it's been very eye opening. Oh yeah, there's a lot out there. No, I always talk about. I always talk about that.

It grants us the grace of discovery with sex. Absolutely. Because in our vanilla life, we're not allowed to do that because, one, our partner may not know how to do that or be that freaky, and two, it's our job to be that freaky. So we have to let loose, you know, Period. Well, depending upon the shoe, because she does both the paid gigs and the content. We'll get to that in a minute. So now after you broke up with him, now you go about go about one.

How did you go about getting content for yourself? Or did you start thinking about dealing with companies for paid gigs and stuff of that nature? Getting paid gigs wasn't even on my radar just because I was a new creator. But again, knowing the people that I knew really helped me to branch out and meet other creators that I can do collabs with, you know, and going into content houses and stuff like that. So that was super helpful.

I've been really blessed to have the people in my life to help me, guide me throughout the whole process, you know, and I really wouldn't be here today if it weren't for these other, you know, people in my life that really guided me and like, hey, this worked for me, let's try this.

Or even just connecting me with other creators, you know, that normally wouldn't somebody a chance of like, I only had 500 followers on Twitter, you know, so like a lot of people aren't going to work with somebody that only has 500 followers. But because I had the validation and connections, it helped me. It helped me grow. And so I didn't start thinking about doing paid gigs and stuff like that until I changed my name, rebranded, because what am I supposed to be like?

Hi, I'm Summer Wilder. I don't do anything besides girl girl and that's it. Oh and by the way, my boyfriend has to be here with me and these are hard nosed. Like Oh no, no producer would fuck with you with 10. It would be 10 blocks exactly. Right, Exactly right. And it was just like a conversation that him and I had and he was like absolutely not blah, blah, blah. It was just such a it was just not on that radar. So again, broke up with him in May.

I really just branched out. I put myself Oh. So so this paint made. Yes, this literally made that just. OK, so come introduce me. So who, how did you find the first guy to work with? And let's talk about that sheet. So I have met a couple of guys in the industry again from my friends and I had people reaching out and I was like, I'm so sorry. I'm not doing boy girl. I'm just doing this.

And after all it happened in May, I went to ex biz Miami and I was with a bunch of other creators that are my friends. And you know, I went in there tested. I went in there not knowing what to expect and I just put myself out there and I was like, hey, I'm summer, you want to collab? And it just kind of happened. And so my first boy girls, boy girls scenes outside of everything were two BB CS and a male, female, male. So I went really hard, really fast. Oh yes you did.

So now let's talk about that because before this, the only Dick you was fucking on camera was your ex. Yes, so and if I'm correct personally, you won't fucking nobody else but your ex Exactly so so now you're about to one deal with the experience BBC on camera. Was you nervous? How did the producers and the direct, the producers, the director, the male talent make you feel comfortable on set and all that good stuff, you know, period. How was the shoot for you?

You know, paint the picture? So it was just a content trade. It wasn't like any production or anything. I was nervous because, like you said, these guys are experienced, they've collabed, they've been in the industry for a long time. But again, back to having my friends there and they've worked with these people. So I felt comfortable and confident, you know, with the people that are around and like, my girlfriend filmed for me. So I'm really comfortable in that sense.

But I was still really nervous, like, OK, I know what I'm doing, but do I know what I'm doing, you know? And then right after that scene, we had a threesome. So the two guys and myself. And I was like, this is my first threesome, first of all, second of all, my first threesome with two guys, you know, And so that was a little nerve wracking, but they were so sweet and they told me exactly what to do. They kept me ideas and they were so professional.

And so that made it really, really easy to work with them. And like, Hey, we're going to put you here. Is this comfortable? Are you OK? Like acting on me and I, it was just a blast. But it was it was a lot. It was a lot of Dick in an everywhere. It it it.

I love talking to people that they were very finella before they got poured and then they got poured and well, they found out how much of the they they brought out their inner slut and you know it it and it's beautiful because it's nothing like the first time. Yeah Oh my God, I've had so many firsts in the last month. I I mean I just had my first gang bang last Monday and I've been EVP now like 4 times, but the first time was not even a month ago and I got watertight.

I've done by scenes but two guys four Times Now like. And and this all this content, all this is content. Yes, yes. It hasn't come in. It hasn't come out yet, but it will very soon. But and I've been able to film, you know, I've gotten a couple of page boots now under my belt. So yeah, it's just crazy. Like again I would have. Never. So how? Yeah. So how was the page sheet different from your content trade shoots? Go ahead, keep talking. Go ahead. Tell.

Tell the smokers. OK, so it was different because it was everything was already planned and I didn't have to worry about getting other creators. Like they managed everything. They got the guys for it, they got the camera crew, everything was set. All I had to do was show up. And I mean, obviously everybody was super nice and walked me through everything, but I didn't have to worry about anything. I just showed up, you know, which is really cool. It's great.

Take a hit with me. Sorry about this MOS had to get that lasagna and and five more minutes had to pull it out. But anyway. But now people don't realize paid shoots and content shoots are different because paid shoots are more meticulous and you don't know your mail time ahead of time with content trade.

Yes, we do pick up if you, you know, like to fuck them and it's we get opportunity to have a little more chemistry, build a little bit more chemistry, right conversations or what have you. So for you, how would how much of an adjustment was you for the pay gigs? So it wasn't that much of an adjustment for me because this company is based out of Las Las Vegas where I live and some of the male talent brought in for it I have already worked with a couple of different times.

So, and, but a couple of them were new, you know, like I hadn't met this guy. There wasn't that chemistry or let like knowing them in a little bit of like familiarity. And it was not, it wasn't there. But the other guys, because of them, I felt confident and comfortable, you know, and I've worked with this predictor before. So it was, it was just a different situation 'cause I did a orgy scene guys, a couple of months back. But it wasn't a paid gig. It was a collab of sorts.

So, yeah, and it's Las Vegas. There's just so many creators and we all kind of always run into each other and we run around in the same circles. So I've been able to meet a lot of the different people out here. So this experience was like I said, I already knew them, but I'm sure there's going to be a where I'm in brand new, don't know, the producers don't know anybody you know, but it hasn't happened yet. So that gang bang now? How many Dicks was it? It was five guys. It was 5. OK.

Yes, it was great. She had a modest gangbang. You know, it was called a gang, but it really wasn't. And I was kind of, I wasn't upset, but we had a girl with me, so she was like the host. And so her and I started together. Like I was like, I really want to play with her. And they were like, oh, absolutely. And so it turned more into an orgy, but there was still, there was only two of us and the five guys. So it was supposed to be a gang bang turned into an orgy, which was great.

I had, you know, a little bit of leeway. I didn't have all the Dicks all at once. But I am planning my first big gang bang for ABN in May or not in May, in January. So yeah, 1450. And. And what's the number? And what's the you say? How many? 14 or 15 guys is what I want. We'll see. OK, feel bigger, go home. So now, now, now here's the thing for you, OK for you. We've been a short time span.

You have done of course, anal, DP, gang bang or what have you for you, because the OK then the thought process with point is you don't want to shoot your load your first year, right? So for you, what do you want to say for year 2, year three-year 4? You feel what I'm saying? Because the one thing we don't ever want to lose is the shock value. Exactly. So I haven't done anal before. I have yet to do anal on camera. So that is still something that I haven't done and so I haven't

done DP in that way. So definitely something here that I want to that I want to do also work a little bit more mainstream, you know, and like have a little bit more fun with production and just, you know, change it up a little bit, you know, and work with more creators. So I have a lot planned here, you know, 'cause I started this year, I started this year in the middle of the year and I had to change my name and refer through all that stuff.

So going into 2025, I'm going to be established in my brand, you know, and I have a lot more work underneath my belt, a lot more experience working. So just going in really hard in 2025, hopefully I'll find an agent that'll take me on. Because let me tell you what a lot of agents don't want to add to girls. I don't know what it is, but they don't like tatted girls. I, I, I'm going to tell you why. See this people know. People know my pedigree. The reason why? Because they feel they can't

market you. They can't, they, they, they can't market you across different markets. Hold on, wait one second. Please. Let me get this real quick smoke break. Smoke break. You know, people, I, I, I am multitasking, I podcast, I cook, and I used to do porn, ladies and gentlemen. So there you go. So see, even when I'm on camera, I'm entertaining, ladies and gentlemen. That's right, give them a

little. So the reason why because it's an old school mentality, because trust me, now they have loosened up way more than when I came in the game. Oh no, tatted. Yeah, Oh no, tatted up. You, you strictly altyoukick.com. You know, yeah, you'd be the ass if you know you ain't going to see them on browser too tough. But it's because of a marketing

standpoint, you know, period. They think about because they because they what people don't think about when you deal with these major companies, they deal with the world. See, we're in the small above in the United States, you feel me? Different countries. You have to edit that point for that, that point even work in that country, you feel me? I'm even talking about in this day and age because some of your videos is not going across the world. Right. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Some places like, yeah, some places they can't show penetration at all. Some places they can't. It is a whole bunch of shit. I mean, but they they get, they make millions and pay people to know this shit and they got their bye bye. So that's part of the reason why the tax. But they have loosened up on that. Yeah, and I have noticed that.

I definitely have noticed that with just other tattooed models and being on pages like browsers, Pornhub and or not even just Pornhub, but like bang bro, these other company. So it's it definitely is getting better. But it was just like one of those things that I didn't even think going to be a problem coming into it. And then it was like, oh, if any role I thought would be a little bit LAX with tattoos, it would be porn, but it's not.

But you know, I've learned to accept it and just kind of roll with it, he said. A lot of the agents that I have talked to, they were like, if you want to be with us, you're going to have to do the hardcore stuff, all the hardcore shit, the BDS and the piss play, the scat play. You just got to be, you have to fit into this mole because you look a certain way. And I'm like, I might look like, I'm like I'm tough because of my fucking neck tattoo. But I promise you I am a toasted hello.

I am ooey gooey in the middle. I'm not hardcore that like you know, there's certain like piss piss play I love, so that's OK, But like other things that they're like expecting me or wanting me to take over because I look this way, I'm like, no, I'm not going to myself, you know that much in order to be like with an agent. So I'd rather find somebody that me who for me and my brand, instead of like me, have brought myself into somebody else that I'm not, you know, so.

Well, see, but see what where you make up at is you willing to do anal? You willing to do DP? Yeah, you willing to do you know what I'm saying? Gang bangs and stuff like that, even to the point that yeah, you go over in Europe because they love tatted women that take it in ass. So and you know, but now it's the thing about it is that that's part of the reason why, God bless you, Chad has her own because you can't depend on and that was the thing we were trying to teach the girls back

then. You can't depend upon the companies. It's about you having your content. So with that being said, how do you pick the guys that you work with? What do you base it? Off of Honestly, I don't really base it off of anything. I mean, normally if there's a new creator that I've never met before, never heard of before, I will ask like my girlfriends or other people that I know in the industry, like, hey, what do we know? You know, is this guy cool? What do, what do we know about

this person? So I definitely vet them out. You know, I have a different couple of like group chats with, you know, a lot of other girl creators and some male creators that I can be like, this is Joe Schmo. What do we think of Joe Schmo? And they'll be like, oh, he's awesome. I worked with him before XYZ and I'll be like, OK, cool. Or they can see the opposite and be like, Oh my gosh, don't because XYZ. This was my experience. Let it out.

So I like to, but normally I just, you know, if they're local and if they're willing to work and if I like their content and their content speaks to my content and I know that I can make something with it, then absolutely. You know, as long as I get a thumbs up from people and even like sometimes I'll have greater that nobody knows. I'll just kind of, you know, see for myself, I haven't had any so far. Like I'll all I've had were some really good experiences with male creators and female

creators. So yeah. So shoot, so, so for you, it's like, yeah, I'm working in front of the camera. How has you learned to work the camera? You feel where I'm coming from. Yeah, you know, trial and error, trial and error and knowing myself and my body and what looks good and what doesn't look good. Of course there's scenes where I'm like, that looks rough, you know, But just think of where like rolls are rolling in places.

You can help it like kind of pick yourself apart when you're in this industry when you all I'm looking at day in and day out is myself and my body. But I've been able to really learn to be aware of the camera, you know, and a lot of the people that I work with are really great at that. And so and not being like so crazy about it, like we can stop and readjust, you know, it's this is important the movie. So it's not just like free flow and then just hope for the best.

Like, Oh no, if this position doesn't work, let's try something else. And making sure that all your cameras are rolling. That's important because I've had moments where we're halfway in. It's like, oh shit, this one camera. I've been here. I've been here. No, no, I want to tell you the words. Your camera dies right at the park. The camera wet. The camera dies right at the park. Oh no, that's you can't read again, but you know it's not the same. No, it's not going to be the same.

We fade out every day. That when we used to say Playboy it out, that when you fade it out, you know what I'm saying? It's just. Exactly right thing too, like learning, learning that, you know, male creators have it rough, like they have to get hard, stay hard if they can't pop, what do you do? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

There's so much to it, you know, so being able to kind of work in that environment, that uncertainty, like if there's a male creator I've never worked with, now he's having issues, you know, being and like, hey, take Trimix, take Viagra, here's the Cialis. Like what can we this not to pressure? Like I've gotten to the plant? Like if you pop babe, it's fine. Like we can do a fake shot.

We can do a fake hi. Like, there's so many options and some of these guys get so like, in their head, like, it's good we can make this work, you know? So Oh yeah. Learning experience, too. Yeah, I had moments where I had Tupac shots in the scene. You know, it got that good. You know, it had scenes where

yeah, he he couldn't come. It happens, you know, and and and the thing about it, he just male times can't feel bad about it because like I said, it happens to the best of them, you know, period, because it's a high pressure situation. No matter how you skinny. Trust me, I didn't have Dicks. The cameraman Dick press against my ass, getting the overhead from my viewpoint. Exactly else have you had that day? Is this your first scene of the day or is this your third scene of the day?

Especially in a content house setting, you know, these guys are just orgies. They're doing multiple, you know, scenes a day. So it's like when it comes down to it, you know, if you're really picky about getting a real like cumshot, then be the first of the day or whatever, you know. But you guys go through a lot for us. Slap some Lube on it, you know, at least from my experience, slap some Lube on it, you know, take a little Suppository, some boric acid and I'm good to go.

I'm ready to rock. But I know guys have it, have it hard or not hard. All you do is just eat the pussy and and and and and, and real wetly. You're good fella. You'd be surprised how much you can get it back with if you actually eat the pussy in the middle of the scene because I've done that before. You know, actually I've done that before even if she was dry or not, because you just look hot when you do it. But so now you're building your brand. So what is the brand of Summer Wilder?

I knew this when. When did go ahead, go ahead, go. Ahead, I know I was going to say I knew this question was coming and I'm not prepared yet because I I don't know. I'm still I know I look alt but I'm not, but I'm also not MILF. I'm also not grown next door, so I'm definitely molding it still, you know, and trying where I fit and trying to see where I stand out in my my strong suits and what you know will sell better

for, I think things like that. So it's honestly still working and I'm still trying to figure it out. So if you know, you tell me. You in year 1 so now, because the reason why I say that is that of course as the years grow, you had to reinvent yourself, you know, period, that they're just facts, you know, but to me it's kind of like females must understand what it is to be a sex symbol and to move and to look at such. You. You has mastered it, you know, period.

And it transcends the tattoos. It transcends all that because it's about being sexy. So. But for you, I would think because, like you said, you're not the MILF, You're not all. To me, I think you did the the sex spot. You're just the hot chick. I love that. But you can create the characters, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. I mean, because even if I work with you, I'll play the shit where I mean that. I mean, yeah, yeah, I'll do it. Rock'n'roll.

I had to do a rock'n'roll. I'm sorry, I had to do 1 of that. I. Love. That but, but even to the point of, you know, boss employee, whether we switch it you the you the boss or I'm the boss, you know what I'm saying? It's it's still creating, creating the character, creating the image, because the thing about it is that when I tell any female and you want to be every man's fantasy, that means you're every woman. So that's why I'm like, I tell every man, no, it's you have you have it all.

You have the role play scenes, of course, because that gets them to see your character +9 as I team do these pro scenes. What the fuck are they going to have your ass do? You're going to do some type of skit or something depending upon the company. Definitely. I don't want to put myself in a box. You know, I, I love comedy, I love, you know, Dom sub scenes. I love role-playing, having an actual skit, and so I love doing all these things and I like to be sweet, but I like to be sexy.

So being able to kind of morph self into all of these different things, it has been really, really fun. And that's what my content has been so far. Even like branching out into more comedy scenes and not I don't take myself seriously and you know, I need to have fun with it. And you should see my bloopers. I have so many bloopers just like sex scenes because I'm clumsy. I'm a did sometimes so like I again, I don't take myself super seriously.

So like you, all the different things has just been really fun. So I think that's why I struggled. Oh my God, I would have you play the Dixie secretary. I would like. I didn't seem like that for real. I didn't seem like that for real. Well, but here's the point. I wasn't in the scene. I directed it and I it, I was had this rapper, this guy will be a rapper and the female was

my secretary. I told her to watch him, you know, keep him company until I get back to the end to do where they end up fucking so. And she was Dixie with it and everything. Right. But no. But to me it's go, go ahead. No. No, no. Go ahead. No, because to me, me seeing you Dixie 1 scene, then I see you play intelligent, then you know, you might cosplay, you know, Because to me I think that when you do this, you want to create a universe around you.

Yes, yes, I'm versatile, you know, let's let's see all the all of the sides of Summer Wilder, you know, and that's the beauty of it because we're all multifaceted. If we're not all just this one thing, you know we all have different sides. Y'all love different things. You know if it was I just like dogs period. I don't like any other animals that's boring, but I love dogs. I love cats, I love boats. I love all of these things. So that's just type of and beings that we are.

And if you find a niche that's if it to you, then great, that's awesome. And if it works for you, awesome, it works for you. But for me, it has just been such a struggle because I had my roommate who's also a creator asked me this just the other day. What's your brand? What do you want it to say about you? I'm like, I don't know. I have so many things I want to say, so many things I want to do that I don't like. I start to freak out. I'm like, I know I need a like a specific brand.

So many creators have a brand, you know, some people are just BBC's people are just jobs, you know? So like, I don't know, it stresses me out. No, it's it. I tell people this, it's a marathon, not a Sprint. So it's kind of like, yeah, even with, with, with the podcasting, I treated it, I let it just be organic. I dealt with. I dealt with shit when it happened. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And it's the same thing with point.

It's like as you add to your scene repertoire, you kind of start seeing, OK, this is what I need to be just the character I need to become. Because the whole point of that is it's kind of like, why do we love the sex symbols that we love? Because we see them in different ways, you know, pretty, you can imagine them in different ways.

So and go ahead. I was just going to say, and I'm also so new still sure, I've had my accounts up for a little over a year, but doing and like putting myself out there and doing all the things, I'm still so new that like, I'm really still finding out what works for me, what works for my followers and my fans. You know, what do they like to see me? And so I'm, it's very, you know, learning and as I go, you know, 'cause sometimes post something and I'm like, they're going to love this.

And it's like, man, no, they don't like this, OK. It's like still trying to figure things out and figure myself out, you know? So this is something I'm definitely going to have to reflect on again, going into 25 and really just zoning in and like honing in on all those little things, you know, so I can really go in with the purpose. Because I was kind of floundering for a second there. I knew I wanted to change my

name. I knew I wanted to do XY and Z, but you know it. Again, it's just been like a whirlwind of all these things kind of happening all at once. So I've been taking those little things a little bit more seriously. Is just going to be something that I work on for sure. So now, like she said, she's new to this. So but you had to learn

something very quick. How cause see, wait, people don't really talk about is the sacrifices day it Well, we talked about on my podcast sacrifices that porn stars have to make to do this business, especially on the personal sex side, you know, from testing and all that good stuff. How much did you have to adjust your personal sex life to chase

this Damn? Business what personal sex life Since I had a personal sex life, every time I've had sex in the last May whatever, however long it's been, it has been for work because I OK, for example, I met this guy, I really, really liked him and he hasn't been tested, you know, and I had scenes lined up. I had just gotten tested. You know, I have all, not just myself to worry about, but all the other creators that I am going to work with to worry

about. You know, if he had gotten tested, then that would be a different story, right? But to find civilians that test on the regular are very few and far between, you know, And I, I've been single, I've been really working on myself and my career. So I haven't really had a personal life, have my vibrators to keep me happy and sane. So that's fine. My magic wand has been working overtime OK. Oh my God. But see, that's the thing.

It's kind of like that. What people don't understand, especially the content creators that come in, that we, you can't just go to the bar and pick up Sandy and take her home and fuck her. No. Way and that's one thing people probably assume about people in the industry, you know, that we're just hoeing around. It's like actually, absolutely not. You know, we take care of our bodies and we test regularly. You know, we talk around and find out because that's our

livelihood. Not only is it our bodies, but it's our, it's our means, our income, you know, so I'm not ever going to put myself in that position, let alone somebody that I'm going to work with. I mean, that's just a hard no for me. And if I need somebody, that's going to be something that we talked about like, OK, you want to have, you know, physical relations with me, you're going to have to go get tested, you know, and that's a hard, hard no. You don't have a test.

You're not fucking me, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Shit, you ain't even got to go pay for a test. You can go to the doctor. Go get TTS clinic and just get tested, but even still, these people don't fucking do it. And I'm generalizing. I know people out there that are listening that are like, hey, I just got tested. I very fucking few and far between and you just don't want to take that risk. You know, I'd rather come home and play with myself and be safe.

Shit, even my roommate, my roommates tested all the time. If I'm really that, you know, desperate. I don't mean desperate. He's very hot. So if I hooked up with Adam or Adam X Lee, he's my roommate. It's not because hottie, but like, I can always do that, you know? I mean, but it let's keep it 100 it it makes biological sense. Like, hey, any edge scratch, you know? I mean, we already shoot together anyway, you know, we can set up the camera.

Exactly, like I just really want to fuck right now. We can either A film it or B just dot, you know? Either way, it'll still be good. It'll be good. Yeah. Because it's because to me, it's like they don't realize that one positive test can shut down a whole industry. Oh my God, yes.

And I've had friends in those situations where they've had content houses shut down because things started popping off literally, you know, And when M Gen. first became like, I wasn't fully enthralled in all of this, but I was just hearing about it and it was just like, shit, here goes that weekend because X amount of talent can't come because they pop for something. Oh. Yeah, I told you we it's a profession people a profession for a reason.

He's a profession. So so like I said, we are always talk to the mills, you know, ladies that get to the business they don't like they're older based off of relationships and stuff of that nature. A lot of times you have divorced sexless. We are we, we we we the smokers know what it is. So for you, how many things that you were taught you had to re taught yourself to do this business? Oh, so much like having that self-confidence is definitely something I had to reteach

myself not being so insecure. And that was a huge lesson for me just to like come out of my shell a little bit more. And you know, my previous marriage was just it really like took me down a couple of notches. So rebuilding myself, all of that self-confidence was something that I had to relearn. And then not being a perfectionist, definitely something that is, is still a

work in progress. Like things sometimes don't work out, sometimes happen, you know, things shit like that, you know, so not being like so crazy, like OCD, you know, things have to be like this, you know, just kind of not free flowing all the time, but you know, come up and happen. So definitely having to reteach myself that in. Patience, patience, patience 'cause sometimes it is Hardy cat cats. Let me tell you, you know, like we're all at one. It's 1255 and no one is ready.

And it's like, you know, like my, my military side is like. Oh yeah, I knew we'd be killing your aunt. You have no idea. Like I just like I'm going and staying inside, but I don't like, OK, that's fine. We'll shoot at 1:30 then, even though that's 30 minutes past the time we said. But that's all right, you know, So just kind of being a little bit more go with the flow has just been a really hard lesson for me. Oh. My God, Lord. Oh geez. You know, that shit drives me

honestly still. I'm like, I get so frustrated, but I'm like, OK, let me not freak out 'cause people, really. I can tell you. I can tell you stories for my days, shit that would have made me go bald and man tend to get going bald, but I mean before my time. You get what I'm saying. I'm just saying so Oh my goodness, but but confidence girl, you gorgeous as hell. I don't know what what comedies you lacking and you wonder why you got getting all these works and and calls and and and and it

I did this business 15 years. I am looking at money in front of me people. I'm not surprised that you had one hell of a first year. But you know, you look at yourself all day. That's all you do is you take videos that and then you can't. At least for me, I can help but compare myself sometimes, like my body type is in a certain way. What if my hair was longer, but if my boobs were bigger? What if my ass was bigger? My like, I start to nitpick, but it's like people like what they

I'm doing. Well, I'm fine, you know, still working on myself, absolutely, but not letting things kind of eat me alive, you know, like I still want to be out there and like, you know, fake it till I fucking make it because sometimes I'm just not feeling it. See, yeah, I I'm going to tell you the key to this. I'm going to tell you what the key to this people, it's not about who the pretty is. It's about who the slutty is. And look, pretty doing it. See, that's the difference.

Because yeah, but yeah, especially for the musician that we got to pull the fuck off that job civilians don't get to do, you know? You know how it is you talk about doing that. Just to give you an example, people reverse a reverse cowgirl. You know how much? You know how much shit got to go right to probably reverse cowgirl? Yeah, that especially when they want to shove their Dicks in your mouth and you're just trying to like trying to balance and trying to look pretty. Doing it.

Now you're stuffing a Dick in your mouth and you're just like, here we go. And then the camera guy is right here, you know? Oh, and you got to keep balanced while bouncing on the Dick. Yes. With her knees. With my back and my knees. I'm 37. My back sometimes is just like if I have a long shoot day the next couple of days I am exhausted, my back is fried and not in a fun way. I'm just like, I'm really sure. In many times I was so sore I

felt like I was in a fight. Truly, after a photo shoot I'm like damn, all I did was stand there like. All we did was fuck. What the heck? I'm having a hard time getting out of bed this morning. Seriously, it's a whole body experience. It's a whole body workout all the time. Yeah, when when we say we athletes, we really are people we really fucking are trust and believe. That's why so many girls hit the germ, hit the gym.

So but no. But it's interesting that you were saying about, you know, bigger tits this hand third. Have you been pressured about that? About what? Have you been pressured about mate titties getting bigger, ass getting fatter, any of that shit? No, it's all mental, it's all internal. You know, my best friends are these beautiful women, you know, these penthouse pets, these

Brazzers girls and stuff. So that's all my internal, you know, and they all have breast implants or BBLS and things like that. And like, I haven't had any work done myself besides a little bit of litter and some Botox every now and then. But like trying to figure out if that's a me because summer wants it or is it me because I feel like I need it. That's still like an internal monologue, you know? But no, no pressure out from outside. Absolutely not.

No, if anything, I've had people the opposite. No, leave your boobs. They're great. I love them the way they are, you know, blah, blah, blah. So if anything, I've had people say absolutely not, don't do it, you know, so. For what I've seen, you got a nice pair of titties and a nice ass. It's a sexy ass now because that, that, that. Well, this won't come on YouTube, but we'll be on Spotify, people. And guess what? Premium smokers, we just guess what?

You just got a preview for the Premium Smoke Room, but we'll get to that in a moment. Sorry guys. Oh no it's all good it's still going up it it's still going up it just ain't going to go on hey, I just can't put it on YouTube, but that's right because they can watch it on Spotify anyway. I ain't mad at it. I enjoyed it you can do it again. I don't give a damn the. End so you can just crop it out. Oh my God. So right there, people.

We, I didn't have this sexy lady up here for an hour and we ain't even touched the surface. We ain't scratched the surface. We, we, we, we, we, we ain't even touched the mountain top. So you know, I got to answer the $1,000,000 question. Miss Summer Wilder, can I call you a smoke buddy? Yes, you can. Absolutely. See, Say no more people. You know what that means? That means she'll be back on the smoker's lounge. And she just gave you a preview of what's going to happen.

And the premium smoke room on loyal fans, you have people 5 premium pod. Excuse me, I'm sorry. I I keep saying 5 I know. And then add it and then add it to podcast 6 premium podcast for you to enjoy plus special events, AKA the VIP smoke room. And I even go live once or twice a month on X with the VIP smoke room. So yes, you'll see titties on X live as it happens. You feel me? And you know it hasn't been in smoke rooms. Let me get close to camera so I

can tell you. The conversation gets more saucy. It gets more candy, it gets more provocative, it gets more predictable. It gets more wild. The titties come out, dildos might pop out. You don't know unless you subscribe. Yeah, it gets wild. It gets wild in pre smoke room. Oh, and if you're looking for triple X, I got you there too. I have a video store at for the premium smoke room where you can see my work is I give ladies the work, 15 years of it because big Dick's going to sticks.

That's why they used to call me Big Country, you feel me? And for my Spotify users, I got you covered over there. You can subscribe on Spotify as well. Savage Smoke, where I talked to the industry's top male talented producers about the business of porn from a male's perspective.

Plus over 400 episodes ranging from Liberty podcast series that been in the past, Premium Smoke podcast episodes that's not on Loyal Fans, as well as Chronicles of Respect Queen episodes that are not on loyal fans. You feel me? And one other thing I need to announce, I am monetized on YouTube. So if you're watching on YouTube, listening on YouTube, please like, subscribe and comment whether it's negative or positive. I love the fucking feedback.

And the more you watch, the more I get fucking paid. So there you go. So now with that being said, Miss Wilder, can you tell everybody where they can spend money on you, baby? Absolutely. I have an only fan Summer Wilder Facts, and that's pretty much the only one that I have that's monetized right now, but that's OK. So we're expanding. We're expanding every day. No doubt, no doubt so. Stuff on there dropping every Friday. So y'all need to go subscribe. So what did you smoke over

today? What did you learn? Well maybe I told you. I said I'm going to give you this. I love her. I can't wait for her to come back. But let me tell you people what y'all should have learned, what you should have learned. Everybody starts somewhere, you know, period. This is a DIY business. You learn on the fly. Sometimes you got to roll with the punches, you got to adjust on the fly, and you must be willing to do so, you know? Period.

Also, you must be open to have fun and attach your limits. I always talk about that because once again, this is the place where you can be as freaky, as nasty, as dirty, as slutty as you want to fucking be. This is your opportunity. You can let loose that inner slut that therapist told me about, you feel me? But the main thing is the power that the powers that be hate is sexual awareness and freedom. Absolutely. They don't want that. Exactly. They don't want it with a

marriage. They don't want you if you're single. None of that. Because if you're free sexually, it allows the rest of everything else in your life to be free and open up. It's a brand new day energy, the whole 9. And I'm not just talking about whether I like anal, whether I like my ass ate out or I love, you know, come deny. I kind of kind of didn't realize that I was into that shit. You know, I, I love when they do that.

But but even if you're homosexual, if you're gay, you're part of LBGTQ being open sexually. Yes and also really hold fast on your hard notes.

Don't feel pressure to try things that you're just not fucking ready to, you know, and having people in your life that respect those boundaries because as fun as it is to explore your sexuality, explore all of these fun new things, you really have to be able to speak up for yourself and be like, hey, I don't feel comfortable doing this or hey, I don't actually like this. And you can always change your

mind, you know? And also another big thing for people out there, no means no and no is a full sentence. You know, I shouldn't have to explain myself. If I say no period, point blank, that's it. And that's in any fucking situation, you know? And so that's another thing that I've definitely learned again, like I felt the pressure to do anal as soon as I started doing everything. And I'm like, no, I'm not ready for that step. This is not what I want to do

right now. I might explore it, but this is something that I'm saying internally to myself. All I said was no, you know, and like, let's just leave it, you know? And so that that was another huge lesson is being able to stand up for myself and saying, hey, these are my hard nose, not OK, not OK, not OK. And having people in my life and people that I work with be like, absolutely, we got you Summer and not feeling the pressure. So other words, you have a voice.

So with that being said, you know how we end these things all day, every day? Life is a learning experience. What's the point of the experience if you haven't learnt anything? Smoke this over summer. Tell the smokers goodbye. Bye guys. You guys have a great night. Happy Thanksgiving. You froze. Did I lose you? Hey, Joe. Hello. Can you hear me? Can you see me? None. Wake up, sing.

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android