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Gladiator Review (2000)

Nov 11, 202437 minEp. 30
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Ever felt like a film everyone raves about just didn’t hit the mark for you? Well, this week, we’re diving into the big, bold world of Gladiator (2000). Yes, the Russell Crowe epic that won hearts and awards alike. But, hold on to your helmets – not everyone’s convinced it deserves all the glory.

Join us as we dissect why this film, with its dramatic battle scenes and intense performances by Crowe and Joaquin Phoenix, might not be the flawless masterpiece it’s often hailed as. We’ll chat about everything from its lengthy runtime to those infamous quotes that have been etched into pop culture forever.

We’re also throwing in some fun facts, like the tech that brought ancient Rome to life, and the Oscar controversies that had everyone talking. Whether you’re a fan or a sceptic, we promise there’s something here for you. So, grab your popcorn, and let’s get into it! 🍿

Transcript

Intro / Opening

Yeah, I think we've been on a bit of a roll recently with the films that we've chosen. So big, big blockbuster movie here.

Podcast Introduction

So Russell Crowe, he was really good in this movie, but I had so many issues with this movie. I think first of all, it's, it's too long, totally overrated. It's it's quoted God, the tedious quotes from the film. And it's just like more of a drag now. And I. Music.

Gladiator Discussion Begins

And the film we're covering this week is a blatant grab for the fact that gladiator 2 is coming out so we thought well let's do gladiator even though it's slightly outside the 90s but only just so we think we can get away with it it was made in the 90s how about that we can we can try and get away with that so we are in fact covering the 2000 film gladiator starring russell crow joaquin phoenix richard harris oliver reed sadly which we'll get to that that bit through filming passed away

but yes for those that don't know this is like the russell crow film if you did if you did pointless it would be a hundred percent answer because everyone would know russell crow from this film once once a lorded gets busted down gets into gladiator school and gets his revenge is that is that all right i mean i don't need ai for that's pretty much what it does so i think that's fair yeah okay so with because it's nobody's choice we'll go in any order i'm thinking joe went last time

dom take it take it away gladiator yeah i think we've been on a bit of a roll recently with the films that we've chosen so big big blockbuster movie here so i think the impact of gladiator has been. Lessened recently with the advent of shows like game of thrones these kind of big sprawling epic high budget uh.

Tv series which kind of make you forget just how impactful i think gladiator and lord of the rings were at the time when they came out with these kind of really not seen before battle scenes and and the kind of drama and the blood and the grit and the dirt of of these these encounters, if you look back at the kind of history of film in the 20th century you get a lot of.

Films about rome because it's a very interesting cinematic subject but actually gladiator in 2000 was when they first had that kind of technical capability to really bring it to life on the screen. I think the kind of savagery and the blood and guts and gore of it. And yeah, I think it does feel authentic and it does kind of really bring to life that for the viewer.

I thought that in particular that scene, the Battle of Carthage is just exceptional when they've got the chariots in and all kicks off, to say the least. And Russell Crowe, brilliant performance. It's not my favourite Russell Crowe film, but you can't take your eyes off him in this. So I did think Joachim Phoenix was exceptional as well. He's in it almost as much as Russell Crowe is. And for me, it's another absolutely brilliant performance by him.

And he was robbed for Best Supporting Actor Oscar, which he didn't receive. He does fall a little short in a couple of places to stop it from being like a 10 out of 10 film. So he's such a hard nut Russell Crowe in this that is there really any jeopardy? I don't know. He's almost like a superhero, the way that he can justify death at every turn. And I thought the battle scenes are so compelling that when it isn't a battle scene, it kind of feels a bit flatter by comparison.

I'm not sure it's too much the director could have done about that, though. And I'm sure to call out, come out and say it. Derek Jacoby and the senators seem to have wandered in from a different film, all kind of campy eyebrows and hammy acting. But yeah, just minor quibbles on what is otherwise excellent. For me, eight and a half out of ten. Wow, eight and a half. Wow. Well, Joe, are you going to continue the love, the love in?

Not much love, I'll be honest with you. I was never really a fan of this when it came out. I know it was a big deal. Everybody wanted to go see it. They played the hell out of it on TV commercials, you know, go and see it. Russell Crowe, he was really good in this movie, but I had so many issues with this movie. I think, first of all, it's too long. It just feels like it drags at times.

And i don't know i just i i didn't walk away with liking this movie thinking it was like a an amazing blockbuster like i've seen before i guess like we can get into it as we get more into the movie but i definitely had questions i was going to ask you guys i had a lot of issues.

You know with the movie but i did enjoy it i would say a little bit more than i did the last time i had seen it because i paid a little bit more closer attention to it since i knew we were going to discuss it but i do feel at times it's disjointed i'll just cut to the chase and i'm going to give it a seven out of ten right seven wow eight and a half seven oh well if this was a downward spiral yeah i'm kind of like could i go a little little bit down this

is just one of those films i'm afraid it's just totally overrated it's it's quoted god the tedious quotes from the film and it's just like it's just it's more of a drag now and i definitely didn't enjoy watching it again i was kind of like when we're just moving from set piece to set piece to set piece and yeah you're right dom the battle scene incredible you know for what it is it's wonderful even if it's just for it's not totally historically accurate it's

probably a nice a good introduction in you know this is how roman armies were allowed to expand so much because of the strategies and things that they have but good lord there's there's so much wrong with this film it's well i mean it's well directed and does do they deserve the oscars yeah probably.

Joaquin phoenix is brilliant in it but it's just a film is the sum of its parts and and it's just there's a lot of things that let it down which we'll get to it just feels like a rugby ball type film and i know that's probably a new thing that i'm putting in but it's one of those things that everyone that you probably predictably thought went to see gladiator did and then they came back and then just started quoting it going oh we're talking this

voice now and i'm gonna do all that and you're like oh god god it's so annoying so yes unfortunately this did drag back very bad memories for me at the time so i unashamedly gonna give it a six, How was a rugby ball film? Rugby ball films are those predictable. Predictably hits the buttons of people. Rugby balls, they wear like the colors or the fruit of the loom shit. Oh, B-O-R-E, right. B-O-R-E, not like ball. Ball, B-A-L-L, like as in the oval ball. That's what he said too. Okay, rugby ball.

Wow okay makes more sense you'd be next to them at barbecues and they'd be like oh well you know if you historically and all of this shut up shut up it's just they're just i just can't stand them so yes this is their film this is probably their opus where they go oh gladiator i remember being at cap so i worked at i was just about to say where we worked are we allowed to say where we worked on come for me so we worked for capital one and there was a guy called martin

do you remember red face martin probably jordy was it jordy yes yeah that's right yeah yeah and i remember him coming in we did the thing called morning prayers where people came in and sat there and you know everyone's discussing the things of the day and then he comes in he goes i mean i can't do the accent i'm not even gonna i'm not even gonna try but he comes in he goes oh it's a, did everyone go and see gladiator at the weekend right and predictably all the

people who i thought were twats went, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wasn't it great? Yeah, I'm father to a murdered son and all this sort of thing. It's just like quotes. Right, so, unfortunately, six. Should we see the trailer? Because it might list people's spirits now if we watch the trailer. I have started recently playing rugby again, actually. Oh, boy. We'll get to that. It's not good. It's not good.

Trailer Insights

Let's chat about that on the other side. let's let's watch the trailer then there's a good it's a good stirring trailer so here we go go watch. Music. Music. Who is he? Will you move your helmet and tell me your name? My name is Gladiator. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my venus. Today I saw a slave become more powerful than the Emperor of Rome. They said you were a giant. I shall cheer for you. Music.

Music and Score Critique

Yeah it's a good trailer it's a good trailer you know one thing i noticed that the music is very good and they do play that music in the beginning of the movie but i one thing i did not like about this movie was the music and i like hans zimmer and a lot of it was very middle eastern music and i know at one point they are in the middle east but his theme seemed to be like some woman wailing like in some middle eastern garb you know i don't even know what you would call it it's

like i saw yeah i can't i don't know the words and all that but it's like that song sucks and anytime they they reference gladiator they'll play that music and i just think it blows it i think hans could have done a way better job you know with the score with i'm a big hands in the fan unfortunately when it came to say hands we've got pirates of the caribbean and we'd like you to do that one and he goes oh i'm a bit rushed i don't i'm i've got

much much time no no is there any chance you can get it to within a week so takes takes off gladiator blows the dust off it and then just goes i'll change it there i'll change it but there there you go is that okay yeah i'm sure if you put the scores it's a bit like the pink floyd when you listen to wizard of oz if you if you put on it at the right time on dark side of the moon by pink floyd it matches up perfectly you could probably do the same with these two

soundtracks you could just swap the soundtracks and see if it works so. Who knows but anyway there's a trailer just curious. Just curious as to what music joe would have appreciated when they went to barocco or egypt or wherever the hell it was like uh what's fine over there but they. Carried it over even like when he was dying at the end you know she starts wailing again as he's walking through the field. You don't have to play it then.

You know, it's like it's just that they played it a lot. And I just felt that that music was weak. I don't know.

Character and Plot Analysis

I mean, I guess it was like it's not like we got to see anybody like, you know climbing up any rope or anything like that that would have been cool you know like in the streets i don't know it just kind of bought me i i and again i i have issues with this movie but first of all i just want to ask you guys i thought the beginning was great like the battle scene in the beginning i wish we got more of that i i you know but it kind of went downhill after.

Common has killed his father for me anyway so they kept calling him spaniard right and that always confused me because i was under the impression that he was a roman general you know right yeah did he have a home in spain is that what it was so they i mean in rome if you're a citizen you didn't matter if you were kind of born in the walls of rome or if you you know if you, conducted yourself with honor on the battlefield or if you had the right family connections and things you could be a a

roman soldier general as he was and be from the spanish part of the empire because it was all the roman empire so obviously the whole point being it stretched from egypt to hadrian's wall in scotland and everywhere in between so that's say he lived in spain as opposed to rome hence the nickname but i couldn't understand that but i just couldn't believe that caesar would give control over of the empire especially rome to a spaniard,

yeah i mean i'm not classics buff but they definitely weren't all born in rome and, Mark Antony, obviously Cleopatra herself. She was Egyptian and things. So yeah, as long as you were in the empire, that was fine. But I thought the thing that's problematic about his nickname, the Spaniard, I don't know, did it not just have like. Slightly dodgy connotations on there? We've got this new general, the Spaniard. Where is he? Oh, we haven't seen him for a couple of days.

He's off having a fag around the back of the wall or something. Or is it siesta time? I don't know. That's horribly dodgy, isn't it? So I won't elaborate too much on that. You could just have said siesta.

You could have just said he's having a kip somewhere. yeah and his name is maximus like they could have called him l maximus and i would have gotten it a little more the frenchman in charge of the war what how come we were so soundly defeated and retreated immediately yeah the frenchman was the general but um that's not going on there either what's that our gag the french the french tank it's just what it's got one forward one forward gear and four reverse yeah sorry we

just alienated our french listeners but no obviously it was a long time ago come on we're all friends we've had a speaking of listeners we had some good listener interaction haven't we uh elizabeth chipping in on the absolutely yeah hi elizabeth if you're out there elizabeth yeah yeah definitely hello yeah and we've got more listener interaction which we'll uh discuss at the end but yes we will get to that but we like the opening battle

scene when they're fighting the barbarians or the Huns, as they were technically.

Historical Context and Accuracy

So I thought the Huns on the run, they missed a trick there, didn't they? With the little subtitles. I should have been the way into that battle. Oh, okay. Quote number one that gets on my wick. On my word, unleash hell. What, you mean the bloody dog? Why didn't you just... He didn't mean the dog. Of course he meant the dog. That's what the dog was called.

The dog was called hell. yes the dog recalled hell oh no way that's a terrible fear it means the dog he didn't mean at least the dog the dogs of war i saw it in trivia and they said yes he was referring to the dog highly wasn't he talking to everybody no it's chatting to on my mark unleash hell how did shout it get him like yeah sicking boys sick balls yeah sick balls hell, yes all right well can we can we go to the um,

So, obviously, we've got the exchange of power, which doesn't go the way that it should do. And Joaquin Phoenix takes him out. Takes the guards to... They call him, like, Joaquin Phoenix. Joaquin Phoenix. Isn't that Joaquin? Joaquin Phoenix. Okay. Joaquin Phoenix. So, he takes the guards. Doesn't take him out and say, we'll take him, like, a couple of miles. They travel so far to kill him. Well, he said travel until...

The end, what is it? The end of day or something like that. Or, and I forget, but. And so, and so. This is to prevent him being murdered in front of his own troops. That's it. That's the thing. Okay. So take him out of the corner. What you do with the boss. Yeah. So there's a, so they obviously overpass the guards and gets free. And it's like three years later, like SpongeBob three years later.

Right. So you get, you get that bit. Did any, did nobody, especially the guy that's like next to him, to whacking phoenix nobody go you know those four guards that we sent off to kill that maximum guy has anyone seen him they never returned probably too busy getting laid nobody checked oh was it did he definitely die oh no none of them came back oh there's your heckles raised already isn't it i mean you're like nobody questioned it well i'm sure

quentin's the guy that's still next to him when they found out he's alive and he does the helmet stuff right it the guy that sat in is not executed on the spot, not only did you fail but now you've created this massive problem for me. Oh, no, no, no, no, it's fine. It's kind of like Snow White. I'm sure Quintus knew about it, but it's not like he was going to tell, you know, Maximus, I'm sorry, not Maximus, Accommodus, you know, oh, by the way, those guys never came back.

He's just going to keep quiet because he figures there's no way Maximus is, Maximus is probably just headed for the hills, even if he is alive. He's probably just running as far as he possibly can. He's not going to have his revenge on us.

Oh, because he was never about revenge, and he was never about that sort of person that would do revenge if he knew everyone was against him if he knew everyone was against him i wouldn't come back i mean yeah i mean he got i guess like he was exhausted or he was wounded and he was unconscious and then these guys just be happening to walk by his property and decided to put him wandering minstrels that were passing again it

would have certainly been a shorter film if he wasn't motivated by revenge, wouldn't it? As he just goes, Oh, well, but guess I better remarry then. Start sweeping away the chard bodies. They were like Jawas. I think, um, I think it's that scene where we get to the reveal. He takes his helmet off. They must have had their suspicions that it was him by that stage on account of the fact that it's not like a helmet that covers his entire head. Is it like a medieval night or something like that?

It's just, um, thought i recognized that person but he was skinnier though but you know what annoys me i had the subtitles on right so no one knew he was maximus he never said my name is maximus you know everyone just called him spaniard and like during that battle of carthage i guess the who's the his best friend there dominic hansu whatever his name is you know he uh throws a sword to him and and he says maximus you know before he takes his helmet off there's no way he said

oh my name is maximus in this movie i mean it's that kind of i feel like that was a mistake or i mean it goes it goes one step further joe he goes he's been like on gladiator tour and not and not the fun one where you know everyone dresses up and you got sticks not people off with pugil sticks and stuff right But he's been on this gladiator tour and the guards are, the soldiers are basically at these, you know, being the sort of stewards there.

Nobody at one point go, wait a minute. Is that a lot? That's a thingy. That's Maximus, isn't it? It's a thingy. None of them, none of them over the whole tour knew that this was the guy. You'd recognize him in a heartbeat. He was a general, you know, he was a respected general. and you're like nobody recognized him at all until he took his helmet off, I wouldn't have recognized him. I didn't know he was Spanish. But you recognize who he was.

Everyone's calling him Spaniard. I mean, he doesn't have to take a fluffy mane, does he, and put it on and go, do you get me now? Do you see it now? Of course it's you. I think we're getting a top dog. Yes, it is a bit implausible. It's like Clark Kent's glasses, I suppose, isn't it? We just have to suspend the disbelief. Don't take that up with Joe. Don't diss Superman. I was going to mention that too. It's very much like that.

I agree but but there are a few things that you're not you're doing a slight disservice i know you're not as keen on it as i am but the um i thought that going back a little bit when marcus arelias is killed by his son and the kind of leadership changes that's a really brilliantly active scene it is absolutely if any of you watch the extended edition i don't know which edition i just watched on amazon prime it went on for like two hours 50 minutes um so that's

must be the extended edition surely that was well i remember watching the extended edition and or maybe it was a deleted scene but it shows that who's uh the daughter marcus aurelius oh absolutely whatever her name is you see her listening isn't it we'll just call her common assistant lucilla lucilla well she was watching like from behind the curtains i i think in one of.

The scenes that was either in the extended edition or it was deleted either she had seen her father hand over the reins to maximus or she had seen commodus kill her father and then they cut that out and i think you know again that's why she slapped him the way she did is because she knew it went on yeah yeah i mean acting wise come back to that there are some stellar performances in it this is why i'm not really blaming the actors in this i just

think what a little performance gets a shout out because not normal times kid actors are just awful aren't they just annoying at best but the little kid that played her yeah son the caesar's nephew he was he was a great little actor i thought yeah yeah he was good i didn't like him something about his hair i didn't like i mean it's like didn't look roman to me you know like jay noid from uh star wars are you that's your level yeah like one of the rolling stones or something like

that you know like where you you know like with like. The romans used to look like back then they used to have like commodus's hair you know i didn't think the kids had long flowing hair like that or i could be wrong what what would have made it more interesting is when he went to talk to maximus or the spaniard and he got that close to the bars that he didn't just reach through and just just take him out why was he why was he ever allowed to get that close to them.

It was just like, yeah, I'm just going to pop down to hang out with the gladiators and just going to... Ridley Scott just doesn't care. Yeah. Yeah. What I always have a problem with these movies is I just wish, and I know it probably would not have done box office wise, but I wish that they had spoken in foreign language instead of having English accents and American accents. What would you have had Italian accents? It's a little better. I'd be okay with that.

Okay right yeah i don't know there's a reason that doesn't happen though isn't it because it would have just undermined the serious dramatic narrative if it was bad a bing i mean say what you will about passion of the christ at least mel gibson did use like the original languages that they spoke back then you know yeah well it's aramaic and aramaic that's it but there were but the italians spoke italian you know it was we needed subtitles for it i

don't think people would like having to see gladiator with subtitles i understand why they did that but i would have like like you said dom if they did do a super mario kind of thing that would have made me a little happier yeah i've also been learning italian but yeah why any particular reason personal development yeah that's fine okay I'd learn Russian but anyway you'd be learning Russian no I said I'd learn Russian but yes

Chinese mate that's what we need all this to be learning box office numbers so does anyone want to guess how much this film took sorry cost to make anyone I'd say 200 million Dom I thought 150 oof Dom you win but it's 103 yeah, How much did it make? We won't play the guessing game. We'll be here forever. 460 million. I think the definition of a blockbuster hit. I don't have the list of movies from 2000.

I don't know where it's stacked up against the rest, but it must be pretty much in the top, easily the top 10.

Sequel Speculation

To say we're basically reviewing this film to nail our colours onto that bandwagon that's passing Gladiator 2. It put me off watching Gladiator 2, to be honest, because I thought, what else is there left to be said here, really, after this, to watch this film?

It's like he's achieved that redemption and revenge arc the kind of baddies have been vanquished the goodies have won i did think the ending was a bit too on the nose to be honest it's all neatly wrapped up wasn't it and i thought well so by those profit numbers you understand why they're making a sequel but in terms of the dramatic narrative arc i don't really understand where they go with it to be honest that's true do anyone know i mean joe i know you like to read spoilers yeah

no i heard i think that the main gladiator is lucius and it's i don't think it's the actor that played him though which they should have gotten because he was in the unbreakable sequel you know with what was it called no it wasn't split it was glass you know he was in a bit of feedback on you mike oh i'm sorry he played a he was in the you know unbreakable he was the you know the the boy in unbreakable and he and he was he played an older version

of himself in glass like when they did that one um so i think he would have been fine if they would have chosen him to play the character again but it sounds like from the trailer that lucius is maximus's son you know and i don't see that either in this movie because they talk about like when he talks to. Communist's sister over there you know she says uh you know i have a son lucius or whatever and then he says i have a son about his age too what was he banging them both at the same time.

Okay well it said they had a past relationship didn't they didn't it so whether that resulted in the son who's, Scott doesn't care. That's the whole thing. It's like, he just wants you to forget about what I said in the last movie. It's like, they were really in love. They had a son. She kept it for him. Cause again, she mentions the father that his father had died, you know, and all that. So I don't know. But I also thought that maybe, maybe comet has knocked her up before he died.

And so she has a son who becomes like the, the nasty ruler of Rome.

You know, I don't know. I mean again i don't know the whole movie that's you know what it would mean that he was it'd be the son of a brother and sister relationship wouldn't he so yeah like he might be cross-eyed or something no well they were all cross-eyed in a way i mean i think they were all banging each other i i did want to say i had a problem with the ending and i always had a problem with this ending, and they kind of like leaned heavily that we were going to see this big battle

at the end that we were going to see Maximus' legions attack Rome and all that. And that's the movie I wanted to see. Epic. It's like I feel like it was a cop-out that we never got to see that. Although I did like the battle between Kamis and Maximus. It was actually very well choreographed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was very well done. I didn't like that he died. I kind of felt I would have made him live.

It's I don't know I just felt like in a way it was a bit of too much of a downer, and I just didn't like the ending I think the ending sucks yeah it ends on a bit of a down it's a bit implausible I mean the fact that they did have that fight just seemed a bit, that's I mean it's not supposed to be based on true stories there are some real life characters like Marcus Aurelius who's in it but it is it is a film it's fiction but yeah the fact that the emperor got in there

and fought him even though he'd wounded him previously to kind of to make him lame yeah it didn't really seem that plausible to me and uh it did wrap things up a bit nicely i thought can we have a quick chat about the special effects in this, because for the time i thought the effects were i thought the effects were pretty good the tigers were a bit shonky but.

The rest of it seemed all right and obviously oliver reed passing through the film and that was probably the first time that they probably put somebody else's face digitally on there so yeah 24 years ago not bad what do we think of special effects good i think i think it worked well if i if you didn't know oliver reed had died during filming they'd have to make all these plot points i think they probably got away with that so it's done really seamlessly i

thought some of the recreations of rome looked a bit unlikely you have this kind of dirty gritty earthy palette to the film and and themes then rome's held up as this splendid beautiful thing which is deliberate the contrast i suppose but it did seem a bit computer generated a lot of the backgrounds and images of rome i thought yeah probably better effects than some of the phantom menace ones but still no i i felt the same way i remember seeing it on the big screen when it first came out and i

didn't buy like what they did to the coliseum especially when they did like the swoop fly over the coliseum and and you saw the top of it i mean you could tell that that was cgi, i guess it looks a little better now because cgi is so bad now that well everyone could do it on the computer just magic some cgi and it looks awful absolutely. So, yeah, well, there we go. Well, before we wrap up completely, because I did do, I know it's been... Oh, it's awesome.

Is it a return of... Well, just a couple of comments on the Oscars. So it did win Best Picture, which is great. But when I was looking at what it was up against, Chocolat, it beat Erin Brockovich, which is a good film, I think. Traffic, which is its big rival. So basically, Gladiator and Traffic swapped in the other categories. But the Crouching Target, Hidden Dragon, got nominated for Best Picture that year.

And that's about oh you're shaking your head i i like that movie i love that movie yeah it's, not not not my cup of tea normally i'm not bothered about martial arts really but uh but yeah that's a that's an excellent film and then yeah ridley scott got nominated for the gladiator but lost out to steven soderbergh for traffic pro one uh best actor for this role being javier bardem tom hanks for castaway ed harris and jeffrey rush but yeah the best supporting actor which

I think should have gone to Mr. Phoenix, went to Bidish Yard El Toro for Traffic, also beaten Jeff Bridges for Contender, William Dafoe for Shadow of the Vampire, and Albert Finney for Erin Brockovich. It was definitely between those two. But yeah, for me, Joachim Phoenix absolutely deserved it. What was Ed Harris up for? Did you say? Yeah, I've got them here. Ed Harris was for Pollock. That's actually a little bit wrong. Right.

That seems fairly fair. I don't think Crow deserved this Oscar at all.

Listener Interaction and Next Episode

I think he deserved the oscar for a beautiful mind i thought he was excellent in that see i was gonna ask yeah i was gonna ask what was the film because dom said right at the start this isn't russell craze badd's film joe you think it's beautiful mind dom yeah do you think don't say robin hood no you'll scoff because it's just it is more of a personal favorite but master and commander i think such an underrated film that i wish had done

better box office wise but i think he's he's brilliant in that i've read the whole series of books i'm a big fan of the mastering commander uh patrick o'brien series and yeah okay i defer to you yeah, worm you know if you've uh if you say it's true then then yeah if it's true i do love that film i think you know one day we'll we'll review it on this pod perhaps and uh i'll bring it to life why i enjoy it so much or maybe i'll re-watch

it and realize i don't like it as much as i thought but yeah that's master commander is an excellent film for anyone looking for a tip okay excellent, yeah that's when again he was very popular at one period of time but then i think like he was a victim of his own you know love of himself you know where people just didn't want to work with him after a while certainly uh in the in the bangles speak he hung out at the donut shops.

Quite a bit he must have lived next door to one he's a uh he's a full man should we say yeah he's a big guy right now yeah big big guy yeah yeah also a big rugby fan big big in australian rugby league so uh yeah we've come on full circle thank you yeah there we go that's why they love him so much anyway the year hey whoo right the next film so we talked about elizabeth and the interaction before we have a record we have another

listener suggestion a film they'd like us to cover not one that we'd normally go for but thanks to and i'm gonna nick i hope i get this right i'm gonna say surname nick opaleski. Has asked us very nicely on YouTube, join one of the comments, to cover the 1990 film Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, which, again, I don't think any of us would have chosen, but I certainly remember the controversy, or however you want to say it, the time where certain scenes got banned in the UK. So, yeah. Really?

Yeah, yeah. Did they call it that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, or did they call it Hero Turtles over there? No. Zero Turtles, wasn't it, I think? No, it wasn't. Teenage Mutant. I thought it was Teenage Mutant. The thing that the problem with over here was the nunchucks. One of them has nunchucks, isn't it? And that, for some reason, some kid once probably lost an eye in a playground incident, and they were basically banned in this country, like any representation of them on screen.

So that was definitely nunchucks. Yeah, but it did lead to the song from the film Turtle Power by Partners in Crime, and that's K-R-Y-M-E. Yeah, thank you for that. That was number one for like three weeks just because of that film, and it's awful. It's an awful song. Was that an English band? No, they were generic American rappers. Really? We never had it over here. You never had Turtle Power? No. T-U-R-T-L-T Power. No, we had the Vanilla Ice song in the next one.

Oh, yeah, that's dreadful. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Go, Ninja, go, Ninja, go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. Oh, do you know what, then? Thanks, Nick. I think we're already having a bit of fun with it. Look forward to it next time. But on that note, Gladiator out. Turtles in for next time. I'm going to say cheerio. See you. Cowabunga. Bye. Music.

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