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Are Your Group Classes Costing You Money? Calculations and Solutions.

Jun 12, 202317 minSeason 3Ep. 466
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Episode description

If you're stressing over your group classes, stress no more. Chris Cooper is going to tell you how to ensure your sessions are generating revenue and retaining clients.

He'll tell you exactly how many people should be in your classes to maximize length of engagement, and he'll give you the steps to calculating the value of each class. With that data in hand, you'll be able to see which classes add to your bottom line and which ones actually cost you money.

From there, Chris will tell you what you might do instead of running poorly attended classes, and he'll explain how to make schedule changes that don't anger your members.

Remember: Profitable gyms run on metrics and data. If you don't know how valuable each group class is, you're flying blind.

Listen to this episode, run your numbers and make sound decisions to grow your gym business.

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"Setting Your Schedule"

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Gym Owners United

0:38 - Key retention metrics

2:12 - Ideal class sizes

4:52 - Are group classes costing you money?

7:52 - Practical examples

11:09 - Retention drop-off

13:18 - Kill it or fill it

Transcript

Speaker 1

At two Brain Business, we have hard data on class size and gyms and we know the ideal number of participants. So gym owners don't need to guess anymore. You don't have to try and figure out your culture or any other unmeasurable elements to figure out how big should your classes be. I'm Chris Cooper. This is Run a Profitable Gym. Today, I'll tell you how many people should be in your classes.

I'll tell you how much each class is paying you and I will give you a plan to address those sessions that are only attended by one or two people. What do you do with them filler ? I'm also gonna give you proof from the largest data set in the micro gym industry. So first, let's start with data. Real numbers on retention. There's two primary metrics we want to track here.

The first is called length of engagement or leg. It's a key business metric and what we're measuring is how long a client is likely to stay in your gym. The second metric is adherence. This is a key retention metric and adherence asks, how often do clients show up in relation to the plans they've purchased?

So if they've purchased a plan for three times a week, how many times do they actually show up compared to what they've bought? Now, both long-term retention lag and adherence are highest with one-on-one training. And this makes sense. A client has paid a premium to have an appointment with somebody, they're very likely to keep it. This one-on-one setting is also where clients make the fastest progress.

So they have both the intrinsic and the extrinsic motivation to show up. But when you go to two on one , three on one , four on one class, but retention and adherence both drop when you go from one-on-one to two on one , three on one , et cetera . There's a few reasons. In my experience, the added partner accountability effect is really offset by the partner conflict.

So for example, well Coop Sam is tied up at work, so we'll just cancel our two-on-one training for both of us and we'll make it up next week. So instead of one partner dragging the other one into the gym, one partner can actually drag the other person personality or like derail them . Now the numbers are consistent when you go from one to two to one to six, but then they go up.

So a class of seven has the second best retention and adherence rates after one-on-one training, best retention, one-on-one second best seven on to one coach. The benefits of groups really start to show for the gym at about seven people, and that value doesn't change much until you get to about 12.

So retention and adherence, both are fairly high between seven and 12 people in your class, but then they drop at 13 and they absolutely plummet off a cliff after that. And the data makes sense when you think about it. Groups larger than about a dozen people can be fun, but people can also feel as if they're a number. Like nobody will miss me if I'm, I'm not here.

Or the coach's attention might be split too many ways. So some participants don't get the personal contact and connections that they need to stay around long term . If you think about it in your own gym , think about the clients who've been there like the longest five, six years. They probably started when your groups were small and they had lots of one , uh, one-on-one attention.

They had lots of relationship building, lots of one-on-one coaching from you. Now here's, here's one note on the data. This data is based on one coach per class with participants doing variations of the same workout . So they're doing CrossFit, but it's scale. They're doing yoga and they're all doing the same moves, but they're doing slightly different variations with blocks or straps or whatever.

And adding a second coach might solve part of this problem, but adding a client success manager might solve the the the connection between classes. Part two , some well-run gyms use semi-private training and they have amazing retention when four clients do personalized programs at the same time.

But this requires a really precise plan executed by a skilled coach who can give significant levels of personal attention to up to four clients at once. And successful semi-private programs are backed up by airtight, fully documented client journeys designed to maximize retention and adherence.

So small differentiator here, a small group, poor retention, they're all doing the same workout , slightly modified for each person, semi-private high retention, they're all doing their own specific workout program and they're getting one-on-one attention, but the coach is going from you to me to the next person too . So in summary, the people who do personal training have the best retention rates.

They stick around the longest and they're most likely to show up. If you're doing group classes, try and keep your group classes in the seven to 12 range for maximal retention. Now let's talk about our group classes actually costing you money. Here's how to find out for a decade. From 1998 to 2008, I coached people one-on-one selling my attention for an hour at a time. I found CrossFit around 2007.

And in 2008 we tried our first CrossFit trial group at Catalyst. It was free, you know , face palm , but I remember saying, this is all I wanna do for the rest of my life. This is so much fun. It feels like when I'm doing workouts with my friends, a year or two later, I had two locations.

I showed up at 5:00 AM to mop the one location and I would coach this tiny class of two people at six and then another tiny class of three people at seven. And then I would rush back to my personal training studio. I'd keep coaching one-on-one until 4:00 PM and then go back to like the CrossFit group training gym. That whole time I was wondering why I was losing money. But it all comes down to simple math.

So I'm gonna show you now how to figure out exactly what your groups are paying you. So there's eight steps to calculating the value of your group classes. Step number one is to add up the total revenue that you receive from all group training each month. Step two is to divide that by the number of classes you run at your gym per month. That's the average value of each class.

Now go back to your total group training revenue. This is step three. Divide that by the number of people paying for group training. That's your average revenue per person per class. That's a really important number to know. Fourth, divide that number revenue per person per class by your average attendance. So how many times does the average client attend a group in a month?

This will tell you the value of one person attending one class. Fifth, pull up your attendance tracking sheet and look at each group you run. So multiply the average attendance for each group by the average value of one single group training client. I'm gonna go through an example in a moment, don't worry. But this will give you a specific value for each group.

And then you compare that average value for each class against that of each class on your schedule. And then you'll see like here's the what the average class drives in revenue and which classes are pulling you up and which classes are actually pulling you down. And then you compare the average value of each class against your personal training rate.

And you can ask yourself, are there any spots where you would make more money taking a one-on-one client instead of running a small class? Now, this last step number eight is kind of dangerous. You might not wanna do it, but compare the average value of each class against what you would be paid to work at McDonald's and maybe skip that step again, if that scares you.

Some people are delivering classes for less than they would make driving an Uber or working at the drive through window. All right , so here's our example. Let's say that Sarah has a gym with a hundred clients and she grosses $10,000 per month in group revenue only. She runs 40 classes a week or 172 classes per month, which is 40 classes times 4.3 weeks in a month.

That means her average revenue per class is $58 and 14 cents. Now, Sarah's average client, again pays a hundred bucks a month and the average client attends about 15 classes a month. That means the average value of one person attending one class at Sarah's gym is 6 67, $6 67 cents . Now her average group size is about eight or nine people. So spread out across all her groups.

If she took a mean average, she'd have eight or nine people in each one. If Sarah runs a class for eight people, she makes $53 and 36 cents an hour in revenue. That's not income . If the class has nine people, she makes $60 and 3 cents per hour. Now Sarah charges $65 per hour for personal training. So she needs to get 10 people in a class to earn $66 and 70 cents and beat her personal training rate.

That's where it's worth it. If fewer than 10 people show up for her class, she would actually make more by doing a one-on-one session. In that same time, if 11 or more people show up for that class, Sarah makes more than 73 bucks per hour. Now keep in mind that our 2022 state of the industry report revealed that the average group class attendance in a micro gym is 6.6 people.

Almost nobody in the data set is consistently running classes with an average over 10 attendees all the time. So building your business on the target of running large classes all day is just not a good idea. A mentor could help Sarah solve this, this problem and Sarah's mentor might ask these questions and a few others. So first, what is the best use of Sarah's time in any hour?

For example, should she cancel her poorly attended 10:00 AM class and fill that spot with a high value personal training client? And the answer is almost certainly yes. Second, how soon can we adjust her group rates to reflect the value of her coaching? So if her group rates go up by even 20%, then the number of people per class that she needs to make money goes down. Amazing.

Third, how could she acquire more personal training clients? And two , brain has an exact plan for this. Fourth, could she sell hybrid memberships to increase client value? Almost definitely. Fifth, could she start using semi-private training to generate more revenue per hour and give clients that personalized one-on-one service?

Now, our mentors evaluate each situation carefully and then they present a step-by-step plan to each gym owner. That plan includes clear tactics and implementation plans done for you , assets, guidance, support, accountability, and in case you're determined, you , you've determined that you need to move or cancel some classes.

Um, I'm gonna tell you how to do that next because the reality is that if you're undercharging, then you're working really, really hard to get a lot of people into a class that might actually cause your retention to dip. Look, if you need 13 people in a class or 14 people in a class to make your revenue target, you are entering into the territory of high churn.

And if you compare what I said at the start of this episode where you know retention starts to drop off on the 13th, member retention is also low between like four and seven members and uh, but you need like more than 13 in a class, then you are running a model where you're not gonna have amazing retention. The two numbers are in conflict conflicting with each other.

So at this point, you're actually better off to have fewer people per class or switch to semi-private or personal training and raise your RM up. Your retention will be better, you'll have a more solid base. Am I saying that's the case all the time that you can't make a good living with a group training model? Of course you can make a good living with a group training model.

The key though is that after you crest that number of like 13 people in a group, you have to be able to afford a second coach or your retention is just gonna get worse and worse and worse. And to be able to afford that second coach, that means everybody in the group has to be paying more so that you can cover that expense.

So whether you're going for groups under 12 or groups over 12, your only play is to have high client value. And when Sarah is charging a hundred bucks, in that example, she did not have high client value. And so she was caught either way. Either she has a small group size, which you know most do under 10, and she doesn't make any money on that group. So she can't pay a coach.

So she has to do it herself and she winds up making a low income or she floods. That group with 30 people has horrible retention. She churns people out really quickly, has to turn to marketing to replace those people and gets burned out. You know, so it's it charging your actual value or charging a high value for your service is really the most important point here.

But this is how retention goes back and forth with client value and how even if you have a gym with 300 members and you're running classes of 30 people, this is what can sink you. So, alright , what do you do with these classes that are under attended ? Do you kill it or do you fill it in almost every micro gym , there's one or two little tiny classes of one or two people that's actually costing the gym money.

Even if the class brings in a few bucks, it's just not worth keeping. So let's use an example based on the calculation from the previous part of this talk, right? Imagine a gym makes $6 67 cents per attendee in a class. So first, if the owner pays a coach to run that tiny class for one or two clients, the owner is actually losing money on the session.

If the owner takes the class personally and coaches it themselves, then they're skipping the opportunity to grow their gym. They're selling their time very cheaply. They could be better using that hour to do marketing and sales or being mentored. And many times , the owner would actually be better working the morning shift at a local drive-through or driving an Uber.

Simply making a class time available on the schedule won't fill the class that old, you know, acorn of if you build it, they will come. It's a total fantasy, but still none of us gets this right the first time. So here's how to set your schedule. You can click the link below and I've got another link for you to click about how to change your schedule after you set it, since none of us get it right the first time.

You're best off setting up your schedule based on when your best clients are available to come. And that might have something to do with your location and then setting it quarterly so that you can change this the calendar over time. All right ? Remember, your greatest leverageable resource as an entrepreneur is your time.

You can invest that time in a class that pays you 20 bucks , or you can invest it into a personal training client who pays you 70. You could also invest it into marketing or ordering supplies or designing t-shirts or tasting supplements or arguing on Facebook with other gym owners who are leading memes on Instagram.

It's your time and your choice, but knowing the value of how you spend that time is absolutely critical for your success. I'm Chris Cooper. This is Run a Profitable Gym . And if you want to ask questions about this for any episode, we have a free group called Gym Owners United. There's over 7,000 gym owners in there. It's a very friendly, very positive group. Nobody's gonna try and sell you anything in that group.

Nobody's gonna call you out or say that your question is bad or dumber. We've removed all those people. Just go to gym owners united.com, jump in and grow your gym .

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