All right, we continue on Fred Rugan Rodney peat on a five s LA Sports. Don't forget. The Countdown is on Monday, Monday, Monday, Hollywood Park, Inglewood noon to three. Rodney I will be there and Austin Barnes will join the show. Now, we invite you to come out. We invite you to be a part of it. We're thrilled to be there. We love it. I will tell you this, There are probably probably some some seats available. People have signed up and they signed up quickly,
but we still have some seats. That doesn't mean if you didn't sign up you can't come. We'd love to see you. You'll have a chance to win. Most importantly, you'll see Austin Barnes. Get there early. Please get there early. At least say you're not just saying that get there early. Get there early because it will get crowded as the show gets ready to start. So try to get there early. There'll be plenty of room, but you might be standing for a little bit. But if you want to
get there early and get a seat, get there early. Yeah, I would get there when we start at noon. We're starting at noon. That's all I'll say. When you get there, you'll understand what that means. But noon is when you need to be there. Monday, Hollywood Park, Inglewood Prizes to give away great time. Come on down, look forward. I will say, the last two times we've been there, it's been nuts. It's been crazy, it's been overcrowded, it's been loud, it's been
somewhat rambunctious. Fred crowds have been lively and I loved it. Bruce dar Graderol was great, Key care nand this was fantastic. Austin Barnes is gonna be great as well. So get there, have a good time with us. Come on. Yeah, Now when we tell you this, we mean it. You know. I just hope the guy, the security guy that like the nine foot guy with a gun, I hope he's there too. He better be. That guy was giant. They've got a guy there in
security. Let me tell you what, he can secure an entire planet. This guy is so big and he is right there with us to keep an eye onos Die. So we're not getting around. It gets a little nutty. Come on down to be part of their craziness. Uh. They'll have a high coup coming up later on in the hour. All right, so the Olympics are what less than two weeks away in Paris? Excited. Yeah, he's the Olympic guy. I know, right, Kevin. He used to be a mister Olympian, Mister Olympics. Let's go. Come on,
Freddy, now, what happened to you? You know, normally this would be the time where I would be getting on a plane and either going to the country or to Stanford, Connecticut. And you know, I was the host on the cable side, so I would go and leave rehears and and we go over our notes and by the way, we prepare long before we
get to where we're going. You got a research manual that is enormous, It's gigantic, and Iver would go when you would gocide to cut you off, and you would go to these countries like you go to different countries, and that's that Connecticut because even when you're in Connecticut. I remember you told me that, it's like, man, you were in Connecticut. He looked
like you were that there when you would go to these countries. How much security and red tape did you have to deal with or with NBC do a great job of taking care of you guys, making sure it was smooth and silky as you went in there. All right, two things, So first on the network level, so you know, I worked at k NBC, but work for the network. It is an entirely different story. It could
not be any different. So when you work for KNBC, you fly coach, you get to the country, you get off the plane, you line up at customs, you go through, you're getting another line, you get your credentials. I mean, this takes a long period of time. You go outside, there's a bus there, You get on the bus. The bus takes you to the quote media village, and they're basically dorms, dorms that are either built or existing, and you go and oftentimes it's two to
a room. They have a little McDonald's or something on site. If you want to go somewhere, you have a bus pass. The bus takes you to where you want to go. You walk through security. No seriously, this is what it's like. You get inside, you have restricted areas, and then you wait, you try to do your story, and then you go back to the bus, back to the media village. And a lot of times at the Olympics, and they're always the same stories. I mean
unless God forbid, like the bombing in Atlanta. Otherwise, say the exact same stories, pin trading, who's trading? Pin? Huh? Who traveled the furthest to get to the Olympics. Hey, here's somebody from Mission VAH back home. They're here at the Olympics. It's the same thing. You follow the local athletes. There's kind of a playbook on how to do it, which of course drove me crazy because I never wanted to do the same thing twice. Once we do one Pin Trading story twenty years ago, I'll
never do another one because I've already done that. All right. That's how KNBC travels. Here's how the network travels. Car takes you to the airport. You fly first class if you're going to a city, right, so when I wasn't in Stamford, you know, you go to the venue, Vancouver, Athens, Sydney, wherever we went. Oftentimes you're on a charter flight. If not, you're flying first class. You get off the plane. There's somebody standing right there waiting for you. Hi, They've got a
big NBC sign. You follow the NBC person. They get to right through customs. You walk over, you get your credential. They get your luggage for you. You walk outside, there's a car there for you. You get in the car with your name and it takes you to the five star hotel. That's the difference. Once you get to the hotel, you have people that will drive you and in turns that travel with you. In the foreign countries, they were assigned to you. You need to go somewhere,
you call them. They get in the car with you and go. It's like when we were in Italy and something happened to my eye. I don't know what it was. It was the Winter Games in Turin, or to Reno as we called them, and my eye was so swollen, and we were two days from going on the air. So I went to which we had the NBC medical people. This is what it was like. I said, look at my eye, and they go, their own medical people travel
there. Yeah. And at the venues they had their own people come in and cook food for you, so you didn't eat something and gets sick. Yeah, right, that catering. So I said, oh my god, look at my eye. This is terrible. They go, yeah, it's bad. I said, what can we do? They said, what you're going to do? Is put on that the big NBC jacket like the puffer jacket that we wore for the Winter Games, and go with that person. So this guy starts talking to me and we get in the car and we
drive. We drive about ten minutes and I look at something that looks like a library. It is enormous and there are people lined up around the outside of what appears to be a library. So I'm thinking to myself, while these people really like to read, why are they all waiting to get into the library? They must be the smartest people in the world, the most inquisitive. So the guy parks the car. We get out of the car, and now we start walking up the steps. And I said to the
guy, what is this and why are we here? You just just follow me. I mean, Rodney, there are people lined up around this place. It looked like it would take you three hours to get in. I'm not exaggerating. We walk right up. So we walk up. There's somebody sitting at a desk, and as I walk inside, I see all these people are now lined up against the wall. They're all lined up against the wall. So the line from outside is now windside and it's long. We
walk right up the person. So the line inside is just as long as the light outside. It's long. I mean, just because you got inside doesn't mean you're doing anything yet. They walked right in. So the guy I'm with talks to the person at the desk. The person nods, and the guys just follow me. So we go down the hall and we go up some stairs and now we're on the second level this enormous building, which
I now realize is not a library, this is a medical facility. So now we walk past all the people on the line right to the table, another table and somebody's sitting there, and the guy talks to the person at the table, and the person at the table points to go into the examining room. All right, So now I feel that something's gonna happen here. I take my insurance cart out of my pocket. Right, what do you need that for? Fred? Right? They look at me like I had
been from another planet. Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize. So we go into the room. The doctor walks in. They give me this cream to put my eye, and he told me to put compresses on it. I go back to the hotel in Toronto. A day and a half later, it was fine, but that was the network. That's how the network traveled. If I had had that same problem with KNBC, yeah, you would have been in that line outside. I'd have been in the line.
I would have been in the line right, which means I would have started my work four days later because I wouldn't have got inside for three days. Yeah, that was the difference between working for the NBC television network and KNBC. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd have been KNBC. You would have been doing the reports for an I patch on. Yeah. That had called
me the halfway man. That had called me pas crazy though about the insurance part of it, because our insurance is so screwed up over here that you didn't you know, it was like, okay, you're here, you're in Italy. This is the way we do things. Our insurance, medical, all that stuff is taking care of. Just come on it, yeah, come on it. This is when my son is in Japan, he's like, he's got anything wrong with him. He walks in, It's cost him
ten dollars stops, no matter what it is. He's a student there, and it's just no matter what it is, it's taking care of. There's no car, there's no filling out. There's no you know, filling out questionnaires and who's your carrier and who's this and who's that. It's just come on in, we got you. It's very different, yeah, very different, very different, But that's different than network makes it. It makes me think of how it's different between when I played for the Lions and when I
played for the Cowboys. Right, Lions, I would have been out on that line Cowboys, we got you right in. You O can come on in. Let me look at you. You wear that star. You're like, okay, come on in, come on right in. You want to hear a quick story? Yeah? All right. This made me think of something. And it's all right, Kevin, fine, Kevin's going up. Stop already, we'll do it. On the other side. I heard about
this. I'm gonna break. We didn't even talk about it in our meeting, but I'm gonna tell you a story when we come back, and you tell me what you think. All right, all right, all right, go ahead, Ronnie, all right, when we come back, I'm gonna I'm gonna set something up. It got me to thinking when you said the lines of the Cowboys, all right, I'm gonna set something up. And you tell me what you think. All right, you got it? Okay, right, ah yeah, let's bring it home back. Come on,
Rodney Pete, fred Rogan, Freddie was on a roll. Let's go, Freddie. Come on, tell me. I'm gonna tell you a story. You tell me what you think of this as a guy that w competed at a high level both collegiately and in the pros. So, uh, Junior colleges are very different, by the way, California Community Colleges, it's a great place to get an education. We talk about him every week. So there's a JC out here and it's a College of the Desert. It's located
in Palm Desert. So we had a kid that was an intern for us, a baseball player. So he tells me a story. He said, he's out there, he's throwing and he feels something at his leg. He feels something in his leg. So he goes to the trainers, because that's what you're supposed to do. They look at it and they go, no, you're fine, don't worry about it. Here, put this heat thing on there and get back out there, all right. Turns out that he has a torn hamstring and a moniscus. Yeah, they told him, just
put this thing on your leg. So anyway, he's hobbling around, he's back out there and perform. You're fine, go ahead, go ahead. He's an excruciating pain. He's hobbling around, he can barely walk. And then they tell him, here's what you should do. Stretch a little bit hamstring stretch. So he does what they say. It gets worse. He goes back to them. He says, look, I think I maybe I should get an MRI or something. I can't continue like this. I'm in
terrible pain. They said, listen, if you go and get an MRI without us authorizing it, you have to pay for it. Now he's injured playing for the school. You have to pay for it. Well, he says, all right, how long will it take? A month? A month? He waits the month because if he went and had any outside medical care, they were done with him. He waits the month he has the check up. The guy says, school said it takes a month for him to get checked up. Yeah, and you go to where we send you
because they had to have the insurance approved. Guy's got a torn hamstring. Take some mon He goes yep, it's torn, you shouldn't be playing. And his season was over. He told me that. He said, there are three other kids at that school with injuries that went to the trainers. They looked at it and they said, well, here's what you gotta do if you want any further evaluation, and you go and get it. You're paying for it. Now. I'll give an example or something real quick.
Okay, all right, so you agree with me, right, he told me the story I'm going this is nuts. So obviously, you know, and my only experience is with Jack at Chapman. It's a pre if they're in the preseason, conference hasn't started. I don't remember who they're playing. He goes up, he lays it up, he hurts his ankle and you can tell he's in pain. All right. They have to help him off early in the year. So he gets off the court, and of course, you know, he decides he's in a lot of pain and it's really
swollen, but he's going out there to play tomorrow. He's going to practice because you will do the same thing. Yeah, all right. He walks out there and he's hobbling. They grabbed him and said, what are you doing? What do you think you're doing while I'm out here, I'm just gonna, you know, ride the bike and I'll shoot on one leg and then I'll run up and down. They go, you are going to the doctor immediately, and this is where you're going right now, and you are
having an X ray and an MRI right now. Get off the court. So now he's all pissed off. Right he goes and a guy goes, you can't play. You get a high ankle spraining. You're not playing. He goes, yeah, I am. They would no, you're not. So that he went back. They told the trainer. The trainer told the coach and the coach that I can't put you in. So after two weeks he just said I'm going in. I don't care. I'm better. I'm going in. They said you need another week. He goes, no,
I'm taking another week. They go, fine, if you insist you're in a minute's limit. They put him in. He plays like five minutes. They take out to go now, shut up and sit down. We'll tell you when you're healthy enough to play. We're not letting you hurt yourself. But here these guys with a torn hamstring. It took them a monk on there, put this on there, go go go uh go back in there, and then he's like, oh no, it's still hurt. And they
got to wait a month to get evaluated. It's crazy. It's crazy what they do. I was. I was blown away because I felt the same thing at USC. It's like, you had the best of everything, right, they take care of you. You you injure anything, they're they're they've they've got connections where every major doctor, the best of everything, and any little ailment you're going, You're going over here taking care of whatever it is. You have a toothache you didn't taken care of. I get to the
NFL and my first year in Detroit and how the NFL works. These guys that were, you know, kind of fighting to make the team and it's the first week of the season and it's a critical time because guys are getting cut and guys are making the team and they decide who's well. The rule is, you can't cut somebody when they're hurt. In the NFL. If you get hurt like in preseason, you get hurt in the game, or you get hurt in practice, you can't just automatically cut somebody. Once they're
hurt, you got to continue them on the team. And once they seem that they're healthy and they're healthy enough, then then you can evaluate them again and say, okay, we're going to release you or whatever. I could remember vividly this happened often where guys that were injured, and I can remember the veteran players saying, do not do not go practice, do not go back on that field unless you are healthy or you're one hundred percent healthy,
and these guys go, I'm trying to make the team. I want to make the team. I got to get it back out there. They're going to lose my spot. And these guys would go out there and they would try to practice, and the trainers and doctors knew that they were not ready to go, and they would go practice. And I saw this with my own eyes one time, where they would run the guy through a couple drills
of practice. The trainer would look at the coach, and the coach would look at the trainer, and the trainer give him a nod, and the trainer would look up at the video guy, and the video guy would give the nod, and next thing you know, that guy was like, I can't go I can't go. But they got him on film practicing and the next day the guy was cutting. Really yeah, because all they had the
show whether you're healthy enough to practice? He was healthy enough to practice, And if you're healthy enough to practice, you're healthy enough to play, and now we have the right to release you. You should have listened to the
veteran guys, still listen to veterans in the training room. Yeah, not go out there, do not dress, not go out at all unless you are one hundred percent healthy or at least the healthy enough to go compete and play, because once they got you on tape, then they can cut you. Ugly business. Ugly business, I would say, in a lot of ways. Yeah, well, what do you think honestly about this, uh
College of the Desert thing. It's horrible, It is absolutely horrible that they would not And this is a college, a junior college, community junior college, it doesn't matter, it's a it's a junior college that that is participating in competitive sports. Yes, that they would not let the person get evaluated immediately after an injury. What if the guy had blood clots, what if the guy had something else going on that caused the hamstring issue? Or with
the hamstring. There was implications in it. They say, you can't get you can't get evaluated for a month, We can't get you in to see somebody for a month. And if you go do it yourself, you gotta pay for it. That's my practice. And I thought, I mean, it really is. I mean I saw what happened to Chapman and there was no way. And then I heard that story. I want wait, that doesn't make any sense to me. Oh they air on the side of caution,
you're hurt. Yeah right, well we're gonna make damn good and sure you're not before you go back out there. Not And usually the trainers and doctors have autonomy over the coaches. They overrule coaches. Even if there's a coach that said, oh you gotta play hurting the old school guy, Oh you gotta go out there no matter no. If the trainer or the doctor says he's not ready, they usually overrule the coach and the right if you're if you're doing it right. Hmm, all right, I think I'm gonna
look more into that because that struck me. All right, let's have some spirituality and welcome on victim. The Daily haikup. Come on, Vic, his sweet spots is everywhere, Fred Rogan, Hello, Vic, his sweet spot is restoration hardware. Yeah, fight yeahy vinc b You know it, Vic, you know it. To find that chandelier at the front door in two days, that's unbelievable. Right away. Let me take care of well
instant props right there, right all. He won the home run derby with baby Oh Kevin fig Come on, not best believe my friends and family were all there. And he goes deep with his musical cuts. Totos lose ds, totos, those notches, Roddy Fossio bang the gong. Yeah, ti Oscar Hernandez, I didn't even do it, Roddy, how don't even do it? Man, old man, old man. All right, well we'll
continue with Vic. You never know where it's coming. Come on, let's go gott to fit a strong Roddy Pete, Fred Rogan, Vic the brick take him, Come on, go ahead, Vic. I want to give some love again to ti Oscar Hernandez, the new Sultan of Swing, first sonder to win the derby. Did we project ay to produce the power for the people. Let's go back in time. You did, Vic, mad love to Taska, Hernandez getting the start at the Globe tomorrow, the home
run derby tonight. He's a shot to win the one million dollars, that's the payoff. He's going up against the polar Bear, Peter Lonzo. I'm thinking, I'm thinking Hernandez has a shot. You are right, Vic. It was his derby man and his wife Jessica was so beautiful and the embrace and what a night for Tasca Hernandez, the way of Tay, just the way of Ta Vic. Sad day for the Kobe Bryant family and all fans of Kobe Bryant. Is there, jelly Bean? Joe Bryant passed at sixty
nine. You know, Joe was a fabulous basketball player. You know he played in Europe seven seven years in the NBA, play with the Clippers, he coached the Sparks. So a tough tough day for the for the Brian family and all followers of the Great Coal. But we love you, Joe. Joe passed at sixty nine. That's right, Joe, Jellybean, And tell me, somebody tell me when is Brinnie James going to hit a three in Summer League? When he does Vic, when he does. It doesn't
matter. Through the four games, he's just awful. Bit Vic's awful. He's awful. Lot actually doesn't matter, you know what, doesn't look at it like this. Okay, he's learning on the job. He's really not ready for that. But he's there and he will develop as quickly as he can. Whatever expectation anybody may have, I think is not airbor. Where's Kobe not going to airball as shot? Those those those conversations. Yeah, that's fair, but that's a very different story. I know it's different.
But give a guy two minutes. He got two minutes to just settle into being drafted and playing and just yah, unbelievable. Listen, the bottom line is this, and that's why we didn't even bring it up today. He's not ready to be there. He's going to learn on the job. Let him learn. Everybody knows what this is. Everybody's aware of it. He's a good kid. Give him a chance to learn, give him a chance to grow. Don't have any expectations zero, You should have none. You
shouldn't even think about it. You should think he doesn't even exist. Just let him learn how to play and grow, and then when he's ready, then we should talk about it. But he's not. And it's like, which a lot of guys aren't. I mean, the second round guy that got drafted, that that are just lighting it up that we can go, Oh, he's a superstar right now. Yeah, and connect struggled until recently. So now he's starting to, you know, settle in and make some
shots. But it's summer League and it's guys that are just you know, they're just getting their feet wet. Everybody be a little bit patient. Yeah, give them time and tell me did you expect him to be a vital part of the Lakers run to a championship this year? I mean, I don't know who did. And if you did, you're delusional. Well the focus is on him because of his dad and how this all went through. But of course, again if you're just really honest, really honest, he's
not ready for this. He's got to learn. He's going to struggle against guys like that. Why because he's not talented? No he is? Could he be good? Sure? Is the now level of competition. It's a different arena, right and these guys aren't great. These guys aren't even great, and he's struggling. Okay, give him a little time, then you'll see nothing's going to change. He's not going anywhere they signed him, So let him grow into it. He got a break. You gotta break his
dad gotta break. Really, you should have played in college another year. He didn't. He got this. He's there. Just let him grow into its speak of college. You know a former colleague at Fox Sports Radio, do Gotlieb, you know now the head coach of Green Bay, Wisconsin. He says Kobe wouldn't crack off starting lineup. He says Bridi would wouldn't crack. Yeah. Yeah, he wouldn't be a coach in many places either, So and really don't keep a whole lot with Doug. Gottlieb says he's the
one that said Andrew Lux is a coward for retiring. So really you gonna quote dog Gottlieb connected, connect give me a break? Is finding a way Connected nineteen against the hated Celtics. As soon as he goes oh for seven, and we're gonna say something about him, who connect? Yeah, they go on, Well, Connects had a cold couple first couple of games. But he's find he's finding he's finding the way he looked against the Celtics.
It's the Summer League. We remember Lonzo Ball. We're gonna, We're really gonna if we If that's the case, then then then everything we said about Lonzo Ball when they won the Summer League, we should just hold true to that, right because we believe that's that's the end all, that's the result of where they're all gonna. Because people celebrated that, remember that, you and Fred and I were like rolling our eyes. It's Summer League, right,
People went crazy that the Lakers won the Summer League. Well, the flip side of it is is he's struggling in some so we got to overreact to that, but not overreact it is, come on me a break. I don't want you guys to overreact to anything but this Haiku Waka taka kage day two. Remember he's missed more than a year of the Grand Sumo Tournament. He's back from injury. Won his first match at Nogoya yesterday. So give it up for wakataka kage waka taka kage. Oh yeah, I think
we need more time on the sumos. Tomorrow we'll do Sumo Day three. It's it's really some stunning upsets, but the yokas. Who know Tarafuji did rack up a win. So we'll do day three as well tomorrow. But it's it's really getting crazy in Nagoya. It all leads back to the source, of course, with masa Okashiki. Well, the summer haiku, it's from shiki go something like this, the summer river. Although there's a bridge, my horse goes through the water. I'm feeling you see nicely, doesn't
vic? I always like I like when we have a horse like cool, a horse, very very solid work. How about a horse? All right? Meet baseball legend Steve Garvey, Steve Sachs and Steve Yanker this Saturday at Gaalpin Bordon Mission Hill starting at noon with food prizes and get amazing DearS. It's part of the galloping ten thousand details at a five seventy LA Sports dot Com. Ronnie, thank you great job today. Haven't appreciated as well. And Rodney, let's enjoy the All Star Game tonight. Yes, let's go