Ellie continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on seventy LA Sports. If you weren't with us during hour one, Victor Brigg may have broken the news as to who sho hey Otani is married to. Now, if you didn't hear that may so you're not all the way and you're seventy percent still well, you know, I just want to confirmed elsewhere besides Vic and one person at Camelback Ranch who took a video. Yeah, okay, but you know he's listen.
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That is the word on the street. That's what I hear in the streets. Don't lie. That's right. My ears to the ground, the ground speaks. Come on now, so get the app, get the app, take us wherever you go. Okay, let's bring on now our NBA insider, our good friend Dan Wiki of the Times, and Dan, good afternoon to you gentlemen. How are you guys to the bears? Right? Isn't that what's happening? Well, that's the word on the street. That's the word. That's the word. Dan wicked. But you know these drafts
sometimes anything can happen. It could be a new twist. Let's just get them to the Bears. We understand. Okay. Look, it wasn't easy last night and they played one of the worst teams in the NBA, and that team looked like they bought their jerseys and Dick's sporting goods. Nonetheless, Wow, nonetheless, I'm sorry they were bad. They were rough, weren't they? Thank you? A bad uniform better a bad uniform, all right, But somehow they figure out a way to win. I got to give
him crap because Lebron after the night before should have just been exhausted. And he hung in there and ad hung in there, and you know, at this point, Dan, a win is a win. No. I mean, you're one hundred percent right, And I mean I think like, these are the types of games that unless unless like you're really kind of in the trenches, it's hard to know exactly how hard they are, just because on paper it seems like it should have been a walk, and it probably should
have been. But you know, trap games are real. And you know, the Lakers expended a lot of emotional energy on Wednesday night against the Clippers, a lot of you know, physical energy, spiritual energy, all that stuff. You turn around, you play again Thursday against you know, one of the worst teams in the NBA, knowing that on Saturday you have kind
of your nemesis, the Denver Nuggets, coming too. Right, So it's like sandwich, right, it is like an oriole cookie but in the middle, instead of delicious filling, it is those awful uniforms and Jordan Bull shooting thirty flitters and yeah, your your focus wanes, and you know, watching the game, like I kept waiting, just for like five minutes of defensive energy. Just find five minutes of defensive energy, Like that's all it was
ever gonna take. They never really found it fully. But but look, my uh, my father you said, was saying when I would uh, when I would pop up and travel baseball, you'd say, looks like a line drive in the score book. And uh, it looks like a bull in the scorebook. You know, you got the you got the win, and that's all that matters. That is, that is all all that matters. And and then as we go down the stretch, man, what what is the what is the focus? What is the goal for them going down
the stretch? Obviously, yeah, they want to win as much as possible, But is it is it remaining healthy? Is it getting some guys back? I mean, and and you know where are we with Gabe Vincent? Yeah, so two things. I mean, I think when it come to getting guys back, I would encourage Laker fans to just like not expect much and then that that's not me reporting anything that there's been setback to any of
that stuff. That's me saying that the track record of guys who missed sixty games in the NBA season, who you know, the track record guys who missed sixty games and then have been able to like have like a real sort of like momentum after that is short. That's a short list of guys. So like, I would expect very little on that front, right, Like, you know, I would try to see if there's you know, you know, that's why you have centered inity basically at this point, right like,
that is why you have him. So I think that to me is kind of I don't have high hopes. And that's not a knock on Gabe Vincent, that's not a knock on terror him, but just being realistic. Yeah, whoa, what's you got going on there? Danny? Sorry, guys, we got some chaos over here. What's going on in here? Okay, I'll take care of that, guys. Can I tell you guys, that's honestly you don't want to know? I say that very can I can I take guy? Something else? My father used to said to me
about sports that I feel like you'll appreciates. He used to. He used to always tell me, he said, Dan, you have deceptive speed. I said, that's nice to me. He goes, yeah, you're slower than you look, all right, Dan. You know I heard Bill Plaski the other day and he's saying, so the Lakers win a couple of games here, don't get overly excited. They don't have enough juice. But yeah, I think there's a train of thought. You may have even suggested it.
These guys are built for the postseason. Yeah, that's where they're going to be the most dangerous. This is why he doesn't listen to me. He's never he doesn't. He doesn't want to listen to me. And that's fine, you know. You know, look, I mean, what does Bill Plashki? You know, he's been doing this for forty years. Look, I mean I have questions about sort of like the juice to win sixteen
playoff games, you know, like that's a lot. I would not be surprised to see this team win around in the playoffs or maybe multiple rounds. I mean, I think that that is the rhythms and sort of the flow of the postseason is much better for them. You know, limited travel, there's days off, singular focus, you're allowed to to like kind of use your IQ and different things like that. So those things matter most to the
Lakers, I think, like to me, that's what's really important. Hold on my second, guys, fellas, fell us, I'm on the phone. Give me a minute. I'm talking to the people Reality Radio at its finest. Baby, I love you, guy. Guy. Guys, guys, this is a real a real disaster. Tell him, Uncle Rodney says, give us five minutes. Hold us, I mean five minutes, guys. Well, Dan, instead of telling them me to find out what's wrong. You've got super Okay, guys, he has superpowers. What are your
superpowers? Yeah, let's find out what they are. Oh, don't want guys, I can, I can tell you one thousand you again, do not want to. I want to know around the corner, up and down the stairs. Guys, you know the bleach, the bucket and the bleach is coming out after this call, it's gonna be it's gonna be a big afternoon in my house. I think, yeah, I mean, I think the I think the biggest thing, guys for this team is, like you
know, they've been sort of a big game team this year. You you would love for them to be a you know, focused eighty two game juggernaut, but look, they're best players thirty nine years old. You know, he's done this twenty one times. You're gonna get the best out of him. He's able to pour everything into like the biggest games, you know, And that's just sort of who they've been this year. They I heard guys kind of talk about it as far back in like late November, that that's
kind of who they thought they'd be. I kind of think that's the identity right now. And it's not perfect because, look, you might be in the playing tournament. You asked what the focus is. The focus is to try to get to the sixth seed, right to get out of the play, and that's the goal, right. I think they're three games back if my uh, I haven't. I haven't really started standing is watching yet, you know, But that's that's kind of where they're where I think they need
to, you know, be focused. But look a lot of teams are there. The top ten West is pretty good, so I look, if they're in the plan, then they're in the play. And I think it's just like They're a team that's just gonna have to save their best for the biggest games. Let's let's stift over to the Clippers now. And that was a tough one the other night where Lebron caught fire and beat them. Uh, you know, they're they're more up than they're down. They seem to
have cooled off a little bit. We still think they've got a good shot to win the West. What do you think? Yeah, I think this is just kind of the sort of malaise that like bona fide contenders occasionally go through it this time of year, you know, where it's just kind of like, you know, all right, this is sort of like the now what portion of the season where you're sort of like waiting for the playoffs or kind of looking at you know, what your team is, you know what
you're about, and that's the like you're just kind of waiting. And I was a little surprised that the Lakers are able to pull that fourth quarter together. I was not surprised that the Clippers were able to to punish them the way they did in the first three quarters. I thought the Lakers would get their attention. It seemed like they did. Yeah, I mean there were
some organizational issues in that game. I thought for the Clippers, like they seemed a little freaked out in the fourth, which is weird for a team that I think has been pretty poised for most of the season. I mean, but I'm trying not to read too much into it from them. They didn't have Paul George, they didn't have a Viacha Zubats. They're playing PJ. Tucker in that game. You know, they're doing a lot of stuff that's not like typically them. I just when I talk to people around the
league, I mean, they just look at that team. If Kawhi Leonder and Paul George, James Harden are healthy, like they have so much size, they have so much firepower. That's another team. When that when the intensity racked us up, and you've got Paul George and Kwhi Leonard like like really locking guys down on the defensive end too. Like, I mean, that's a very scary basketball team. And I mean I think if you pulled people around the West, you'd get probably fifty to fifty on them in Denver.
Just even despite kind of these this last week out of the Ulster break. Now if that week stretches into two, you know, three weeks. You know, maybe there's maybe they're wearing down a little bit. You know, they put a lot in the regular season, more than they're used to. But I just kind of think this is just a sort of a hiccup. I agree, and we've said that both of us looked at Clippers as nobody really wants to face. They can be a very scary team. Only
thing is just like health, they stay healthy. Who do you think gives them give them the toughest matchup of the teams coming into the playoffs that we know of kind of right now that that would give them the most trouble. I mean, I think, I mean, look, the Lakers have not been a good match for this year, right like the Lakers have beating them three times. You know, I think there that would be an interesting series.
I mean, the home court advantage would at least somewhat be negated because you have their home court is also the Lakers show in court, and certainly we know what the fan bases are. I mean, I don't think anybody would want to play Denver, you know, I think it'd be interesting to see them against kind of like a really really fast team like the Thunder maybe, you know, as a team that I think could give them a little bit of an issue. I feel like they match up pretty well with Minnesota's
size. I mean, like I said, Denver's Denver. I mean, we know what Luca does against them, but I still would like them. I would favor them against Dallas, maybe Sacramento, maybe Oklahoma City. I think if I you know, and those are just teams that really get up and down the court, you know, and you just kind of you sort of just test Paul, George Kawhi, Leonard, you know, James, you just test their motors. It's hard to really pick a weakness though.
I mean I guess, like you know, age and athleticism would be the weakness of the Clippers. But like typically in the playoffs, like the game slows down anyways. All right, well now so wait, wait, wait, so it's a band. I just wanted to you say, Denver, you don't think Minnesota, Minnesota didn't give them. I mean, I mean, I think, I mean, I think, you know, I mean, you're not wrong, right, I think all these teams are really good,
you know. I think we're talking about like margins here and there for most of these teams. You know, I look at Minnesota as a team that's like a bigger team. You know, the Clippers match up fairly well with that, you know, like they have in theory the wing size too
to credibly guard you know, Anthony Edwards. They could use Terrence Band, they could use Kawhi Leonard, if they had super stretches, they could certainly use Paul George, you know what I mean, you could hie James Harden on Mike Conley a little bit, like they're They're like, you can kind of get through some of that stuff. I mean, but I don't look at that matchup and Sale as a slam dunk like I mean, it's gonna be you know, this is gonna be a hard road for anybody in the
West. You know, I don't know who has the easy one, right I mean, look, you're gonna if the Lakers stay in the plane, if the Warriors are in that mix down there with you know who else Sacramento right now? And who am I missing? Is it? Who? I don't even know who the fourth team is that's down there right now. But I mean, like, these these are good teams. These are all teams that are capable of winning a playoffs series certainly, you know, Phoenix.
Yeah, I mean, like, would would you be surprised to see Kevin Durant and Devin Booker win two rounds in the playoffs with Frank Woge on the
side, Like, I wouldn't be surprised by that, you know. But I mean, I think the fact that I can say that about eight teams in the West, I think really kind of speaks to you know, how things like home court advantage and different things like that are really going to matter, you know, and putting yourself in the best possible position, and that's you know, I guess would be an advantage of the Clippers ad that the Lakers just don't. All right, Well, now you have worked, attend
to Dan. You have things to pick gee, guys, so you get the big rubber gloves out, uh you know, duft uf an old COVID mask and get the work. Well you know he's got superpowers, Okay, yeah, they're super all right, all right, Dan, have a good weekend, guys. Thank you for your patience, everybody, Thank you for your patience today with me. I apologize for the distractions. All right, There he goes our buddy Dan White, he's got work to do because his
kids have superpowers. What do you think they put them all over the wall? Don't you think that's what happened. Absolutely, they had some either some pain or some food all over their hands and just having a food fight or something like that. But that's why they went rayons. Yeah, but that's why they're playing superpowers superpowers, because they're probably throwing baseballs at each other and you know, and footballs and bats, and I'm thinking projectile. I'm thinking
a certain type of projectile, you know. Yeah, but they were they were talking and laughing and screaming too much. I think for them throwing up all over the walls, maybe you may be right, you know it, maybe some other projectile. That's kind of what I was thinking, you know. And when you have to pull out the bleach to go clean after that, then you know it's something serious. Yeah, yeah, all right. David Bass, by the way, is going to join us at the top
of the two o'clock hour. Yes, Kik hear Nanez some interesting comments yesterday. He talked to the media about collusion and why pre agents have not been signed, why guys are still on the market, and I think we should touch on that next. Yeah, absolutely, but still nonetheless beautiful southern California day on a Friday with Rogan and Rodney. Come on, y'all, all
right? Kei k Hernandez spoke to the media yesterday at Camelback Ranch. Of course, Keik actually announced he had re signed with the Dodgers before the Dodgers announced that Kik had resigned with the Dodgers. Fan favorite wanted to be here, but he talked about what it's been like this offseason for pre agents. Now when we look at the market and you know there are some still out there. Matt Chapman is out there, Montgomery is out there, and Blake
Snell, they're all Scott Boris guys. Other guys are still kicking around too. Key k said from the very beginning he didn't have many offers. Now we know he can play. We also know he's not an All Star, but you would think he would be serviceable somewhere. In all the conversations that they had his representative with clubs when they were talking about the amount of money that was available, almost all of them, he said, indicated, we
don't know about our TV deal. We don't know. It's uncertain because cable TV used to be basically a printing press of money for the clubs. Now the Dodgers on a piece of spectrum and the Lakers on a piece of spectrum. They're fine, nothing's going to happen to them. But if you're in the Bally's group, the old Fox Sports group, you're in trouble. Bally's filed bankruptcy. Some of those teams no longer have TV deals now here in
this market. They do, the Kings, the Angels, it's the Clippers, the Ducks, but they may not be paid as much for the rights to their games. And what Keykey Hernandez found out because in other markets around the country they just cut bait. San Diego done, I think Phoenix, Coyotes and Hockey done. So. Now the league is streaming those games,
but that doesn't pay what a rights holder used to pay. Therefore, the club has less money to invest, and therefore they're not willing to invest as much, and it's driving salaries down, at least for players that are good but not superstars. Superstars will always get paid. That was one of the things he pointed out. Another thing he suggested. He didn't use the word but he said it's a word that starts with the capital C. Yeah,
collusion. Everybody's kind of getting together and towing the line. And you know, this happened to be in baseball many years ago. Peter you Brov was a commissioner and an arbitrator ruled in favor of the Players Association, not Major League Baseball. Yeah, but he's suggesting there could be some collusion because everybody is just kind of floating around in this kind of mid range salary game. He signed a one year deal for four million dollars with the Dodgers. I
can't tell you if that's good, better and different. I know he would like more. Four million dollars a lot. We all would. We all want more. And there's a lot of factors, right, we don't know exactly, you know what Kik was was asking for anybody else was really asking for. I think there's some guys out there that you know, are warranted big salaries based on the season. They just came off of lakes. Now one of them, you know, just want to say young And you're wondering,
Okay, what is keeping him out there? Is it that he's asking for so much? Remember there was a time where people were waiting for Yamamono to sign to see where you know, if he set the market at a different, different level and then and then all the dominoes would start to fall. But yet we still see Montgomery out there and Blake Snell out there and
some other guys. I mean, Cody had to wait until I think the day before they started playing games with the Cubs before he signed back with them, and he still didn't get what he wanted out of the deal, and he had a really good year. So you know, I'm not going to say that it's its collusion going on, but there's you know, probably some sort of holding pattern. And you mentioned, you know, one of the big reasons why with some of these teams is that there they don't know the
future of their TV contracts. Well that's the ballgame. See, bands don't understand because it's different here in LA. It's very different here. Probably in New York would degree because the Dodger and the Yankees, of the Cobs, the Red Sox, there are clubs that draw a lot of people and make a lot of money from the gate so which is not all collective money that everybody gets correct their own right. They make a lot of money from the
gate. Not everybody does, and more often than not. And I've said this in the past and some have become upset with me. If you're a sports fan, these are games that you watch, no the reality, and if you're an athlete, you believe these are competitions you try to win. The truth of the matter is because people get paid. What they do is they are TV shows. They are TV shows. That's what they are. Everything now is constructed for media, be it television, be it streaming.
They're shows and the more people that watch the show, the more money the players make. But if somebody doesn't have an agreement, a television agreement to implement the income, what did Ardie Moreno say. Let's say the Angels are paid one hundred and twenty million dollars a year by balis right, that's money into their pocket, money they can spend. The Dodgers have their deal with Spectrum as a joint owner, and they make considerably more per year. The
Yankees make considerably more per year. All that money goes to the bottom line. So now when they're going around to sign people or they get over the tax and they have to spend more, the money sitting there plus you add the gate, plus you add all of the sponsorships inside the stadium, you're doing okay, So you can afford to go out and spend a lot of
money. Where if you are a team that does not have a great TV deal or any TV deal, and you don't have the gait of a major market team like the Dodgers or Yankees or Cubs Red Sox, you don't have as much money to spend. And I'm not going to spend it. They're not going to spend it. Because here's why, it's simple business. No matter what we spend, and no matter how well we do spending it, we can't make it back. We're overspending what we have. And when that
happens in any business, what's affected. First labor? Right in the media business, Yeah, labor. Okay, we've got to make some cuts here, and it'll be people. And we've seen it all right, We've seen it dramatically lived through a ESPN and I mean laid off thousand people and you know Fox did as well. I mean, it's uh, we're seeing it right in front of our eyes. Where it you know, like you said, it hits labor hard first, right, because that's the big ticket items.
And when you start to eliminate labor and your costs, that doesn't mean you won't replace the people you got rid of, but it does mean the new people will make less. And that's kind of how they try to right size things. So if you're a free agent in baseball right now and a team doesn't know about its team, there's some uncertainty about the revenue it will generate. Okay, will right size this in our own mind. So if you thought it was eight million dollars, you would get we can only pay
four. The general manager Ernie Kleiner at Channel seven and never worked for him, but I knew him, and he told me one of the great lines of all time. I had lunch with him one day, and he said, when people's contracts they would come up, they would come in and they would talk to them, and they would to an individual man woman always ask for far more than they were going to make, always ask for far more.
And then you know, there would be a bit of a negotiation and it would come down to exactly what ABC at that time was going to pay. And he said the people would look at him and they would become frustrated, or they would become hurt because he wasn't giving them what they wanted. And he would say the same thing to everybody. It was a great line, you know, because they're saying, aren't I valuable enough to you? He would say the same thing, Rodney, Rodney, I think you are
one of the most valuable people I've ever met. Yes, but the job pays this. Oh go to hell. He would always use that line. Listen, I don't know if I've met anybody more special than you. I don't, because I mean, you're one of a kind. Thank you. But the job pays this. When it got right down to it, the job pays this. And I think maybe that's what these players are starting to feel too, with this uncertainty of the TV deals. The job pays this, Yeah, do you want it? And it's crazy because it's not an
exact science either. No, no, And because there'll be years where it's a feeding frenzy and going crazy and the kid that contracts up and he just you know, hit two to eleven with twenty home runs, yet everybody's clamoring for him and he makes a fortune that year, whereas there'll be a year a guy hits three eleven and h's thirty five home runs and yet he can't find a team. Well, it just goes in cycles like that, and it's frustrating for guys that their contract happens to come up, you know,
at the wrong time. I mean, look at football now, they're just the salary cap just went up for football, right, so now it's like, okay, an open season when it hits free agency, baby, bring it on. For people like Chris Jones of the Kansas City Chiefs, right, it's like, this is a great timing on my part, had a great year, won the Super Bowl, and the salary cap went up.
All good, let's go. Life is always luck and timing, exactly, exactly, luck and timing and something that we all have to understand wherever we work in whatever we do in any line or any profession, you know, something right or wrong, good or bad. You're always paid what the market will bear done. Period. It just there's no two ways about it. U show Hey Otani didn't work for four million dollars, he got seven hundred million. Kick a Hernandez is not show heo Tani there. I don't know
if that's collusion or reality. Yeah, both, No, it's it's it's reality show. Shoe Tani is probably uh in a short period of time. I've already made that seven hundred million dollars up. Are pretty close, pretty close for the Dodgers. I mean, just one trip, I can't to say, a couple couple couple more trips to Japan and sell a few more jerseys, they'll be right there. Yeah. I didn't mean to vic you. No, I didn't mean to vic you. David Vance, we'll join
us next hour. Come on, let's keep this thing going on a beautiful Friday, Fred Rogan, let's go, man, Come on, alright, let's do it. Because of our crazy week we've had with the Dodger games, we didn't have our weekly chat with a good friend of ours. So we'll do it right now, all right, and now from the court to the court room with Jacob em Ronnie. Yeah, let's wrap this week up with our buddy, Jacob em Ronnie. Jacob, how are you happy Friday?
Gentlemen? How are you doing well? Jacob? Tasting fantastic as a proud partner of the Lakers. What'd you think of the last two games Lebron against the Clippers and last night they had enough gas to make a two in a row. What a week? What a week? That Clipper game, My god, that was you know, that resurrects your confidence and hope in
uh, you know, Laker Nation when you see something like that. I mean, Lebron looked like you was nineteen, literally put the team on his back and did what he was supposed to do, and did more than what he was supposed to do. Great passes and great, great shots when it was needed. And then the role players. I mean, you know, no one's talking about that d Low three pointer where he barely even you know, took a second in order to take the shot. That was a great,
great win against the Clippers. I think it was the first time I don't know, and how many years that we got three out of four. Yeah, yeah, no, it was a great win. What do you what do you say to those because there there are haters out there obviously, and people that just hate on the Lakers, and we'll constantly see, yeah, but Paul George didn't play, Zoo Bost didn't play. They weren't really totally one hundred percent all that kind of stuff. Uh, it still means
something. It's still significant at this time of the year. They're all haters, you know, if we would have you know, at the end of the day, you got to look at it. We played against Phoenix and didn't have deal and Phoenix was able to, you know, do what they were supposed to do. Ultimately, at the end of the day, this is the NBA. You're playing against NBA players. Look at what happened against Washington, right, we have to go to overtime because you know, you
have that hangover from the great game before. I mean, any team can get up to win against any team, and you know, Clippers are a good team, but the Lakers really did a great job that night and that was a big win. You know, we've got what ten out of the next twelve I guess now eight out of the next ten at home. These are big wins that the Lakers have to get in order to get out of that cellar of eighth, ninth, and tenth and actually, you know,
get themselves a nice position for the playoffs. You know, Dan Woiki wrote, I don't think it's an unfair thought here that the regular season is one thing. He believes that the Lakers are actually both for the playoffs, and I've said this from the beginning, get to the tournament, and let's see how the Chips fall. And I kind of believe that that. Do they have enough gas to get all the way through? I don't know, but I think they're kind of constructed for the playoffs. Jacob Listen, I think
you're right. But you know, there's ways to get into the playoffs. You know, if you're a sixth or seven seat, you know, or even if you get into you know, fifty six or sevens, you don't have to go through the dangers of a plane. There's no reason for you, especially a team like this, to have to have extra games if you can avoid it. I don't think anybody's going to want to play the Clippers. I also don't think anybody's going to want to play the Warriors. They're
getting hot as well. But ultimately, at the end of the day, I think you got to get in there and if you can avoid the play in so that you can get a little bit of rest, you know, and go into the playoffs with a lot of energy. You know. I feel like you can make some noise and that's really all you can ask. As long as you got Lebron James, you know, you can go to any game, fifth, sixth, seventh game, and that you know,
you know that he's going to carry it. You know, at this age he's still really one of the best players in the NBA, and he showed it the other night. Hey, Jacob, our listeners love when you offer advice. Let me ask you a question. What does a phrase no recovery, no feming uh And when someone hears that, is that beneficial to them? Oh? It's absolutely beneficial. It's like literally saying, go to a restaurant. You don't pay for the food until they bring it for you.
You get to try it, and if you like what you ate, you pay for it, and if you don't, you know, you can walk out without paying for it. We all know if you've ever had to deal with attorneys, the legal industry is an industry where you have to pay upfront before your attorney does the work. So either you're paying a retainer fee, which is an amount of money that the attorney has to get before he starts working, or you're paying hourly and at the end of every month you're getting
a bill for whatever work was done by your attorney. In you know, personal injury. In the way we do it, you don't pay a penny, not the first month, not the second month. You don't pay for costs, You don't pay for anything out of your pocket. And the only way that you know, my firm gets paid is if we win and get
a settlement. At that point we get a percentage of what we cover, which is also great for clients because literally a partner with them in their ups and downs, you will make sure that you don't leave a penny on the table for them. But more important than anything else, you're you know, you get justice for them, and you're with them throughout. At the end of the day, it's not really about money, it's about their health, and you hould their hand through this and hope they make the best recovery.
So not you know, when you don't have to pay out of your pocket spread it means that you know, anybody can afford you. You don't have to have, you know, a bank account, you know with six or seven figures in in or to hire an attorney. You can be somebody who's even through financial situations and you can still afford somebody who's not charging you.
So it's great for the public because everybody gets to have an attorney to represent them and fight for them so they don't get taken advantage of by the insurance company. All right, well, Jacob, great advice. Glad we got the hook up this week. Make it a great weekend and we'll we'll talk again next week. Thanks guys, Stay safe if you missed it. Of the show, Vic came on and talked about who he believes through his sources
is Shoheo Tani's wife. Now, Vic will come back this hour with the regular Haiku and give us more information and we'll get off the camel Back ranch and check in what David Bath say when we come back.