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Jovan Buha joins us to talk about the Lakers as they enter the '2nd half' of the season. Vic the Brick haiku

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We continue on Fred Rogan or Rodney Pete on AM five seventy LA Sports. Hey, if you missed any of the show, David Vassy was terrific right at the top of the one o'clock hour, get that iHeartRadio app. Download the podcast. You can check out anything, anything you didn't hear in the program. Kevin puts it up the minute we get off there every single day.

So get the free iHeartRadio app, listen to the podcast, and if you have the app, like so many of our listeners, you can stream the show live wherever you go, anywhere, as Rodney would say, in the world, round the world. That's right, you can listen wherever you are. Just get the free iHeart Radio app. Jovan Booha from the Athletic joins us covers the Lakers and is absolutely terrific. Yovan, we appreciate you coming on today. How you doing man, I'm doing well. Thank you

for having me. All right, So, what you have done in your own inimitable fashion, you have constructed reasons why the Lakers are in a pretty good spot. Run down the reasons for us. Yeah, so number one is this new starting lineup that they've settled on of Anthony Davis, Lebron, James Ruey, Haschimura, Austin Reeves, Andy Angela Russell. To me, these are their five best players. The offense look really good with those five playing together. It is tied for the best lineup in terms of plus minus

among the eight lineups that have played more than fifty minutes. So the results are there. And I don't know why they've only played ten games. They've

been available for thirty of the team to fifty six games. I've only played in ten of them, but they are eight and to won that lineup plays together five and zero when they start together, So that to me is the biggest thing of this group has really struggled with their starting lineups in the first quarters, and in fact that they finally figured something out that is a big reason for optimism for me. Number two has just been the health and availability

and the level that Lebron and eighty have played. That you know, there was no guarantees coming off of last season that we're going to see this type of production from Lebron. There are no guarantees that Ad was going to be healthy for the full season, but we've gotten that up to this point, and I think That is a big reason for optimism, just those two guys in the Lakers a chance against anybody. Number three has been the Spencer Dinwity

addition, I've been really impressed by him. I think he already is the six or seven best player. And to add that type of guy off the buy out market, add him for a vet minimum salary, that that to me is just a really nice boost at this point in the season. Number four, that they're starting to get healthy. They have four guys who are out. All four are going to be reevaluated this week a couple of those guys, and Max Christy and Cam Reddish are expected back soon. So they

are rounding in a form. They're going to get some of that athleticism and that defense that they've been missing over these last couple of weeks, you know, back pretty soon. And then coming up they have a easy home heavy schedule, or rather it's not the easiest schedule, but they are have you and this is a team that's really good to all fit, best home record in the West, and nine of the next fourteen games in La. So I think you look at all those factors and the Lakers are running out.

They've won eight of eleven, and I think there's reason for optimism that this group could get the six or seven seed and position themselves on, you know, for a similar run to last season. Now, I think that's realistic and right in the pocket for the Lakers to make a run as we start the second half of the season. Andy, And I'm looking at where you mentioned the reinforcements on the way. Where are we with Gabe Vincent and him

coming back? Because I know he was a big part of this team start, you know, when they acquired him, but he hasn't played for the Lakers. When do we when can we expect him back? So I've heard different things on this. It sounds like realistically the earliest timetable is probably the beginning of March, so that could be in a couple of weeks or so. But he's going to be reevaluated this week. We hopefully will have an update by the end of the week, if not early next and then I'll

have a better answer for you. But you know, I think it's looked like he was their main off season addition, if he's from a financial perspective, he was the guy they used their non tax payer mid level exception on and they haven't had him basically all year. He's only been in five games. So adding that guy on top of again you know, Dinwitty and getting some of their injury guys back like that, that is a significant boost to

the rotation. So you know, Cable will see ultimately how much he plays, but what's type the form and it's gonna you know, when you miss most of the season, it takes you a bit to ramp up and get back into game shape. But I think again, as a guy who was their primary off season edition, not have him and then hopefully get him back and at least in March, Yeah, I think that's going to be a nice benefit for them, Yovan. I'd said all along that all they need

to do is get into the tournament. That's it. You know, the regular season is great, but just be healthy and ready and get into the tournament. And if they're healthy, I really think they can do an awful lot of damage regardless of where they end up in the regular season standings.

I agree with you, and I think again, I go back to the Lebron and ad like, if we look at last postseason, in the series, they had the two best players and the Golden State series, they had two of the three best players and there was a pretty big gap there. So you know, I know it's a bit reductive just to say, like which team has the better players, but when you look at the playoffs and just the magnitude of star power and how much stars and star performance dictate series,

like, the Lakers have a significant advantage there. And I think that's why you saw even with them playing up in down you know, for the first fifty games or so, when they wanted to turn it on in the n Season Tournament, they were able to do it. And when they wanted to turn it on recently against Oklahoma City and the Clippers and Dalla even in Boston without Lebron and ad like, this group just has an extra gear to get to that they can't do it consistently, and I think that's been frustrating

for fans. But they are able to get to that level. They're as good as just about anybody, Like with maybe the excession of Denver, who just has their number. They've won seven consecutive games against them, Like,

they just haven't been able to figure out Denver. But with that team aside everyone else that the Lakers I think have shown that they can beat or at least have a competitive game with, and that is, you know, one of the big reasons why I think that they are confident that as long as they can get to the playoffs and hopefully be a six or seven seed, maybe match up with like a Minnesota or inn Oklahoma City in round one,

like they like their odds about least winning a playoff round if not going further. Yeah, another thing that I agree with you is the den Witty addition. I just think I know it's you know, he's only been here for a few games, but I think eventually he is going to play a big role for the Lakers down the stretch and into the playoffs. What do you think I'm on with you. I think it's someone who the Angel of Russell. I mean, like we've seen the Angel and Russell struggle in certain matchups.

He struggled against Denver and the Western Cormence Finals. He struggled against them an opening night. He didn't play against them in the last matchup on the trade deadline day. But if, for example, in that series, Denver is just able to disrupt him or or bother him, like you have spencered Dinwiddie who's a bit bigger, a bit more athletic, a bit of a better defender, and is someone who can theoretically hold his own from a physicality

standpoint a little bit better in that type of matchup. So he gives you the ultimate insurance where if Austin Reeves or the Angel Russell gets in foul trouble, one of them gets injured, or one of them just isn't performing well for a given stretch, Spencer Dinwiddie can easily slot in. I mean, he's one of might be the best backup point guard in the league, definitely

one of the better backup guards in the period. And the fact that you again you added that guy mid season for basically nothing, You know that that was a really fortuitous situation that that you know, you got to give the Lakers front office a lot of credit for of finding that type of guy, convincing him to turn down more money from Dallas to come to LA and and you know, take on this role that he's taken on. And look, it's only been a couple of games that they've only played Detroit Utah. Those

are Detroit is probably the worst team in the league. Utah is tanking now.

And traded away some of the key guys. So like it has been the best level of competition and I'm interested to see how he looks coming out of the break here that they got some tougher games coming uh with on State and the Clippers and the Suns. But again, I think to have that guy for basically free, You know that that that is something that the Lakers that they got some criticism for not making a move with the trade deadline,

but they swiftly responded that they signed spencered in Witty and so far he looked like a pretty good addition. Yeah. See, here's the problem with the Lakers, and now we'll see if it works itself out. And that's why the addition of Dinwitty is so important. The way the roster was constructed, you looked at these guys and thought, okay, it's that I really believed, Yovann. It was the first time since Lebron has been here that they

had a real good NBA roster with depth surrounding him. And it had nothing to do with the play of a D and Lebron because they've been playing very well. It was everybody else that was supposed to support them. Now if they get healthy, DiAngelo is playing the way he's supposed to. Dinwitty is a great addition. That's what was missing here in this first half of the season, the other guys, not the two, because those two have been healthy and played all along. Do you agree with that? Yeah, yeah,

yeah, and look like the Angelo. To me, this is arguably the best stretch of his career. Definitely his best stretch as a Laker when factoring in his two ten years. But when you look at just him contributing to winning, and that's kind of been the knock on DiAngelo. He has kind of been like a good stats, bad team type guy, and he struggled to fit into Golden State's culture. He struggled again in the Western Conference Finals and has been in Minnesota. Was also kind of played off the floor

in that Memphis series. We have a history of him not really being able to rise up in the biggest moments and particularly defensively, being a bit of a liability that teams can sort of team and play off the floor. But he's been amazing for going on six seven weeks now. Again, like I mean, he has been escaped a lot at times, but he's been incredible and he deserves all the praise. Austin Reeves has refound his game in terms of like just doing the little things, and a big thing for him has

been plus minus. It's been pretty bad for most of the season. Recently he led the Lakers on that statistic and he's just looked more like himself. Rude Altama stepping into the starry lineup, and I think that has unlocked the best version of him. And then as you said, you know, adding Dinwiddy getting back some of these injured guys soon and Jackson Hayes has been an underrated guy who was out of the rotation and they stepped up the last few

weeks. So like it has been the collective right now, it's been the other guys, Like this was a group that the lookers. They want to bring back the continuity from the core of last season and add in some pieces that could supplement that. And again we've seen it fits and starts. You get to see it consistently, but we have started to see it again, you know, eight and three in the last eleven games. Like it's been a bit of a stretch now where they have looked pretty good and coming out

of the break, you got Golden State. You got to the Suns, you got the Clippers, got some tough games. But if you get through that, then you have this home heavy stretch where I think they could really tad their record and start to ascend in the West standings. Yeah, no, I agree. You know, we we debated this early in the show. Given that that the you know, both teams stay healthy throughout the rest of the season, who do you think goes deeper, the Lakers or the

Clippers. That's a good question. I really think the West playoffs are a giant game of rock paper scissors right now where it's going to be. You know, styles make fights, So just by virtue of I mean, look, the Clippers have been amazing for a couple of months now. I think that you know, they really found something with the James Harding trade as unlocked these small ball lineups where they're playing basically five wings and guards, and teams

really struggle to match up with them. So given the sample size that we have, I would lean toward the Clippers. I also think seeding matters, Clippers are looking like they're going to be a top four seed, So having home court in that first round, I does think, you know, give them. Excuse me, I think does give them an advantage compared to the Lakers, who almost certainly will be the underdog at least from a road perspective

in round one. But that said, I mean like they could both be second round team that wouldn't be shocked if give me the Lakers match up with Denver in the second round and moves and the Clippers lose to like Phoenix or something in the second round. So I would say, based on the samples we have and based on just their their body of work, I would lean told of the Cliffers. But to me, it's really going to come down to the different matchups the way the bracket is slotted, because I think both

teams have strengths and weaknesses. Like Minnesota is a really bad matchup for the Clippers, just their size and their laying letts. That is a team that can stay big and really bother the Clippers and punish them a smaller Whereas, again for the Lakers, it's a team like the Denver it could be a team like a Phoenix where maybe they just get to a shootout with them and they don't have the type of lookmans to hang with them. So I think

it's really gonna come down to what the seedings look like. You know, what were the matchups are like. And you know, I can tell you a better answer in terms of who's going to go farther. But right now with totinge Clippers, and they've just been been arguing about seem the league for two months now, so I do have to tip my hat to them and say I would favor them all right, Jovan thanks for coming on. Great stuff. Appreciate you guys. R Soon Jovann Bouja covers the Lakers for the

Athletic. Uh. Another guy that worked here in LA and did a terrific job, you know, Roden. He makes valid points about the Lakers. He he he. I think he's nailed it. And let's just see remember the trade deadline last year, all of a sudden things fell into place. Let's see what happens this year after this All Star Game. Yeah, the thing is that the West is so bunched up, you know, especially you know the the top ten teams that they all can beat anybody or each other

up. You know, it's very well. You know, he mentioned this stretch with with Denver, Phoenix, Golden State those three games you flip a coin. Either any team can win that those games, right, So it's not like it's gonna be a favorite. I could see the Lakers going and sweeping those three games, and I can also see the Lakers losing all three of those games. It's just it's so tight right now that you gotta have some luck involved and you gotta be on some sort of role going forward.

All right, win is spirituality, it is we do when it rains. We need that spirituality and uh Vic will provide that when we come back. Oh yeah, come on, let's keep this thing move. And Randy Tuesday means we need some spit you out a day, come out, gotta have it, Rodney. And there's one man to provide it. You know who that is. It's Victor Brick with a daily hikup at two and Vic could have He flows like an atmosphere, Eric River, Fred Rogan, Hello big,

he is our storm of serenity. Rodney Pete vit o moisture, plume of passion, Kevin figures cha come on nah and he will play musica with liquid themes from Wet Willie to the Little River Band to Billy Ocean. Let it Flow, Ronnie fossil water ho with King flavor. Y'ah, there's a goal to be fluid. No, yes, yes, yes? And how fluid was Otanishan in the batting cage yesterday? A camel back ranch. I can't get enough. I know it's only BP. I know it's just BP.

But when he crushed that JP fire rising fastball over the right center fence and JP says when he hit it, I'm like, oh, he's showhey, so he's got power. Then I turned around, I'm like, well, there's another one. So it was good. It was fun to see and obviously he looks like he's ready to go. And does it get better than that? Does it get better than that? Well, he's ready to go. Hopefully he'll be able to play Opening Day in Korea against San Diego.

But we do know that Yamamoto and Tyler Glasnow will be the first two pitchers during the regular season for the Dodgers. I don't know what order yet. Well, obviously it looks like Otani Son's going to call his own shot, and if he's going to play Thursday, I think Dave Dave Roberts has left it up to him. He understands his physical recovery regime like no one else. So you know, Dave Robertson's very very open to whatever O Son

has to say. And of course the sensational training staff of the Dodgers, whatever they say goes. But how about Blake trying? And you heard David Vassi, I mean he is coveling on trying. He struck out O toony Son. His pictures had that that bite to it, that pop in the midt. How how wondrous would it be for Blake trying to regain that form? Well, if he regains that form, they're in pretty damn good shape. I'll tell you that. Well. Conishi wa O Tony Son, and

you mentioned you have Amoto Son, Fred we're sports out of Philadelphia. Phillies owners John Milton says he paid his offer to Yamamoto Son was more than what the Dodger's offer. But yet Yamamoto Son said, Sionara, Philadelphia. I love the Dodgers. I grew up a Dodger fan. I love the Dodger organization. I'm playing for the Dodgers. So you know, Moss Moss love for Yamamoto. Did he really call the owner of the Phillies and say, Sionara I am, and I am asserting the cionara. Oh okay, I

was he saying, wow, you're hearing things right? Yeah, I already said that. I mean that's that shows you just the love of Yamamoto son. You know it was kind of underplayed or was it played? I don't know, b Bick. Is your phone ringing? It was a phony phone call? No, you don't know that you should answer it. It might be important. Nothing is more important than our session, I understand, but maybe somebody wants to weigh in. Is it still ringing ringing? They've They've

gone on to another another, another number. Remember, Fred, I used to work as a phone salesman back in the day. I understand the ritual. What do you mean you worked as a phone salesman? Coming well, coming out of college, I was looking for a gig and the media was very, very dry at the time. I had no experience, you know. I came out of Cornell University basically with a bachelor's degree and the communication arts it was called at the time. I don't know what they call that

cockamami degree right now, but I was. I was seeking a gig and I got involved in phone sales, very strong phone sales. Can you give us an example of my technique? Oh, Fred, you don't want you don't want to hear it. I was basically setting up a point means to sell land in the Poconos, in the Pennsylvania mountain tops. And I went

as a Vic Danucci. That was my phone name, Vic Danucci, Vic Danucci Danucci, and you get you get a phone book back in the day when people used to use phone books, right, and you'd cold call, and that's what they do. I mean, it's it's a practice still being done. It's very it's very annoying, but it's still a practice, still a business practice of cold calls. But I did it with a setting up real estate, uh sit downs with prospective clients in the Poconos when the Poconos

were big. I might even sure if the Poconos are hot? Now, did you just did you get anybody to sign up? Once in a while? It's it's a numbers game, Fred, it's a numbers game. I've got a few sign ups, but you know, let's face it, you need a gig. Phone sales was very popular at the time, and I was in be getting back to our priority. Are the Dodgers done Are the Dodgers done buttressing the squad the Yankees? The Yankees are Blake Snell still out

there, that's dv's guy. The New York Yankees have allegedly submitted an offer to the two times say Young Award winner, And if the Yankees do add Snell, I mean, who would need a Blake Snell? The Yankees would have the best one two starters in baseball, with Fred your friend at the UCLA g Cole Alsa Young Award winner at the top. Then there would if they do at Snell out of the Scottie Boris roster, they'd have Rodin, who had a horrific yar last year. Is your phone ringing event? Is

your phone ringing again? No? Strowman and Corte's f Oh so that's a pretty strong starting rotation for the Yankees if they can get Snell, Yeah, maybe a viable contender. I'm GM cashman. I'm on the ropes in New York. I didn't make the playoffs last year. Are you're the Yankees with an insane payroll or you don't make the playoffs? I'm hooking up Snell to try to make the Yankees a viable contender. How about Alison Gian Carlos Stanton

a bottom of damn high Sherman Oaks a virtual bust in the Bronx. He hit one ninety one last year. He arrived in Yankee camp with a new sculpted physique. How can he be more sculpted than he already is? That's tough to do. What did he do exactly? Is he literally just half man half machine? Now? I think he put on more muscle. How I don't think it's physically possible because he's like two forty two forty five. No, he's a big dude. He's all muscle already. Well, the

the Yankee camp had oohs and eyes. That's according to my sources. Man, oohs are sources. A lot of Yankee fans for it out there, you know that. I mean it could be a it could be a Yankee Dodger World series. No, wouldn't that be wild? Uh? Yeah, it'd be wild. I don't think it'll happen, but it could be wild. Be wild. Remember former Dodger picture here he and Jin Yu feeling you Padres were hot for you. I mean he could still pitch. He's a

lefty. Ten years in the bigs. Some injuries. Of course, the former Dodger were Reports at the South Korea say, the lefty Ryu has hooked up with the Hanwa Eagles of the KBO, A four year deal for you. I mean ten solid years in Major League Baseball. Were two very productive years with the Dodgers back in seventeen and eighteen. I'm a great clubhouse guy. I remember were you playing cards like every day with with Puig. I mean they really, they really got along. You was a very friendly dude

and real pitch for the Eagles back in the day for six years. So it's gone back home. It looks like according to our sources in South Korea, that are your sources? Who are your sources in South Korea? Now, Fred, I comb the international internet because right now there's a lot of there's a lot of uh movement. Your spring training has started with in full effect, a lot of guys seeking seeking fresh gigs. But he and Gin was was obviously in the mix for the Padres, but he's gone. How

about the Angels. Trouty has been so vocal. He says, I'm loyal, I'm loyal to my deal, but show me more pitching. I'm a Troutyan and of course, the Rendeau incidents. I am so disappointed in Anthony Rendau and those statements. I know we've touched upon it. But you make hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars a year, Rendaut, and you say this is a job. I do this for the money. You do it for the You should be doing it for the love. No, the love

of the game. Yeah, you'd like to hear that. I mean, you mean little kids grow up, you don't the game. You understand that. He would say, my family's my priority. I got that. But and we know that. But how about yeah, I love this, I love playing, I love being out there. I love being in front of the fans. How about that instead of no, I do this for money. Basically, I don't really care what you think. I got mine, you don't have yours. See you later. By That's basically what he said.

I By the way, if he does it for the money, he hadn't done a hell of a lot for the money the last couple of years, has he because he hasn't played. He had the magical year with the Nationals, and Paul laid that into what two hundred and fifty million dollar contracted he plays half the time, it's only two forty five victim on o. No, he's not greedy. I don't want to inflate his come on saning offer. He's insane contract for Marti Moreno, if he had signed with the

Dodgers, all right, let's just workshop this. If he had signed with the Dodgers yet suffered the same types of injuries and played as few as games, do you think people would give him a break at all? In Anaheim, he's so far into the radar it doesn't matter. He's fine. He can make a comment like that. If he was playing for the Dodgers and here he comes, trying to have a good season, he's back after being injured in the past, and he goes, I just do this for money.

What do you think would happen to him in this market? People would skewer him audios. I mean, that's not that's not the way of hardball. Obviously, it's not the Dodger way. But the Angels are seeking away, they're seeking a culture. There is no culture with the Angels right now. You got you got Mike Trout, MVP candidate every year, but obviously that they don't make the playoffs in like a decade, and when Mike trouts only play off here, they got swept by the Kansas City Royals. I

mean, who can't even remember? You know that abyss for the Angels, but Mike Trout's only playoff taste, they're swept imbercause they didn't get a hit. He didn't get on base in that series. Vic I remember that, not saying it's his fault, but I do remember that. I mean, the key is to develop a culture. The Angels must develop some kind of culture. I really I feel for the Angels fans. They're loyal, they

go out there, they you know, they support the squad. But you know, six years with Otani Son, you know, paired up, you know, with Trouty, and nothing happens. It's it's it's sad. It's it's it's sad, and it's it's exasperating. And then these comments from from Anthony or and Don just it's a it's like a knife into the wound. I mean, anthy just, you know, put your head down, playball, try to regain your skills, try to stay on the field. And

these random, reckless comments. I mean, I'm sure Audio Audio Moreno is like I paid this guy two hundred and forty five million dollars. Imagine if you just let him go. Well he's done that in the past, right, you let Josh Hamilton go. That was another crazy, crazy financial bust. So one thing about it. He'll spend the money. But like Fredd, it's like you say, you got to know how to where to spend the money, how to spend the money? Right? You know the quality

of the acquisition. I mean I don't I don't want. I don't want to go yin yang all the time. But you look at the way the Dodgers are doing it. You know the list, you know decades upon decades. You know quality, you know Mookie Freddy, Oh Tani, you have a modal sign glass now, I mean, these guys are incredible quality players and people. Rogan l a sports and there's a former bruin. Oh he keeps going. Should he be in the Hall of Fame? All right,

Well we'll get to that vic as we continue. Oh hey, you know what we're gonna do. We've got two four packs oh up, tickets to rugby seventy of away. Nice? Do you want to do it right now? Yeah? What not? All right? Eight six six ninety seven two five seventy two four packs of tickets for rugby seven What color numbers, Rodney? I like number four and number seven. Done. Come on, let's keep that thing moving. Let's go. Let's go, Rodney, Pete,

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both men's and women's USA teams will compete on the same weekend. Get your tickets today at axis axs dot com. You got it, Vic, and you're talking rugby. There was a scrum in San Antonio last night. Did you see that Texas A and m commerce and incarnate word, I mean Kate Passa during the postgame handshake, I mean and insane brew haha broke out. Did you guys see that video? Yeah, I heard about it,

Vic, I mean postgame handshakes. Okay, games over. I think A and m commerce won by four whatever, But suddenly an insane fight broke out with everybody both teams for over a minute, which is like an eternity. Well, there are a lot of people trying to break it up. I don't know if it was as wild as people try to make it out to be. There's a whole lot of assistants and other players in the scrum trying to hold people back, so it looked a lot more crazier than it actually

was. I know a student manager was bloodied. Yeah, they're definitely fan was injured. Yeah, there was some fifth flying for sure, but there wasn't I some giant, all out brawl like people try to make it out to be. At least that wasn't my view of it. I mean, what's up with incarnate word? Man? Where's the love? Where it was? Mu Loco in the Lone Star State. Let's face, everyone's seeing hundreds

and hundreds of brawls and basketball. They don't last more than a you know, ten fifteen seconds, right, I mean, the NBA guys don't fight. That's not their way. You know, they'll throw some they might throw some wild punch and that's it. Everyone gets bear hugged. It's over. But these two squads, I don't know what was said, but it was nuts and we got to give it up for Matthew Slaveh, son of Jack Ram Hall of Famer j Matthew retires from the NFL today. Sixteen's they ever

called Jackie Slater Jack Slater the first? Maybe maybe you and Jackie are tier then I've never ever we all know Jackie. Jackie's great. I've never caught the world jack before. What in the world, Yes the hell? You just call me vicche here Jackie right now. But sixteen fabulous years with the Patriots very special special teamer out of u c. L A. He's been called the best gunner of all time on these specialty units. Ten Pro Bowls,

three Super Bowls. So congratulations Matthew Slater and the sensational career. Is he a Hall of Famer fellas Bill Belichick says he is, though he's biased. Yeah, yeah, not many Jicky Special team guys are Hall of Fame. If it took that long to get Devin Hester into the Hall of Fame, it's gonna be tough to get in for him. I mean, he is the especial in the especial team. He redefined the squad. No,

I mean when he came in sixteen years ago. I mean there were gunners, there were guys on the specialty teams who are fabulous, but his attitude, sensational teammate, I mean, Slate was wild. Everyone loved him on the Patriots. I don't know as as k fig may sell the in point with me, the special teams are open for Canton, Ohio with hester ray guy, why not Matthew Slater. I feel like there might be more noise for Steve Tasker before Matthews Later. Yeah, I think so too do.

I love Matthews Later and he did a great job and U c l a guy all that, but it's hard to induct someone like that who doesn't really have a lot of stats and highlights very very very subtle. Yeah. But if I'm voting and I don't have a vote, that's why I would vote. I would vote Slater for revolutionizing either the position of gunner and making making it a a poltent position on the field. I mean, he made so

many insane difference making plays and in such a dangerous position. I mean, that is the most dangerous play in football, and to you know, reckless, abandoned, just throwing your body around like that and making plays. I Slater was just just sensational. He's got my vote. But again, Congress, you know, I don't want to jump back so far ahead, but congratulates on a great career. And Fred, you know what all this leads to the source again, Heads up everyone, when you're driving, when you're

walking, be so careful, be so vigilant. I use that cushion between cars when you're driving. Was it ten miles an hour? Was it one calling? One call length for every ten miles an hour? In the rain? I mean, just be so careful out there. And of course the haikup for you is about the rain. It's about this wacky wet stuff. And it's from Hugo Saveda. Oh oh, good to the radar, Hugo Sauveta. And who is Hugo. It's a haiku poet. He's not from Japan, No, he's not, but heike. Haiku is an international art

form for it. Ye, that's right. Who says you are in Japan to do a haiku? Well? I thought haiku. I thought haiku was Japanese. But the rest of his home it is Japanese for it, but it's an international creative art form. If you follow the pros, which Victor generally doesn't, but if you follow it technically the haiku. Yeah, if you follow the pros, VIC generally doesn't. But if you did, Okay, we'd like to stretch the haikup because I believe that is what Basho it

would have wanted. It will the old time, the old time, hot high cool master, right Basha would have wanted us to stretch the haighkoup well big new So this is for everyone as we deal with this with this wacky rain from Hugo Sovita. Life is not about waiting for storms to pass. Dance to rain and shout. I feeling you, Hugo Sovina. I like Hugo. That was solid to rain and shout very appropriate. Okay you go, okay, yeah, Hugo, you go. Nice shot. Yeah you

should be because that was a good one. All right, Ronnie, thank you, great work. Kevin as always top notch, and Rodney we get him again tomorrow. Let's do it. Let's do it.

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