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Okay, very simple, very simple. Yeah, we need we need to talk to Bill Plashki about some things today, Rodney, we need we need to address some things with him. Whenever you have a little, uh, what do I say a little confusion. You're wondering. You know, who's gonna eventually set the record straight. Who's gonna find that information, Who's gonna who's gonna be that guy to kind of shoot us straight, look us in the eye and tell us what's what. There's only one guy. You gotta
go to, Fred. You gotta go to Plasky. Let's do it right. You gotta go to past La times, Bill Plasky. Cut the crack. What do you want year? What do you do bother me? What do you want? Well? I want to start with this grumpy mcgrumps a lot. That's Fred's moniker, not your worst. Thanks for that, all right? And that's that's where I want to get. Where you want to start, That's exactly where I want to start. Didn't you didn't you lay the hammer on him a little heavier or now? No one? Thing is
all overdue. He's so tough on his players, and he's he's gone overboard this year. These are this year's recruiting class. There's a bunch of seventeen eight year old kids five thousand miles from home. They're struggling, and he's throw him under the bus. And postgame press conferences and Besides that, there's also this daily and this happens every game, and I get complaints about it for people every game about it's kind of on the sideline that has kind of
go on the bench and his profanity and his domaining manner. He's a great coach, he's a great guy. I mean, I love doing him. But he's gone where he's gone through far this time, and the delusion has gotten to him and he's taken out on the players and he's very unprofessional. But like you said, this is the guy who we din't haven't known since
he's been at UCLA and probably before that. People that go back with him, this is who he is, isn't It's not something new or it shouldn't be shocking to anybody that has kind of been around him or seeing him coach. I think it's gotten worse. I mean I think I think this year has gotten worse because his team is the team is is bad. I think
it's really I don't think he's handled very well. I think the sounding would be a sound of a great coach is a great because the coach under audiversity and he's got a ton of university right now, and not so enough for the press conference. That was unconstable. That was that was that was Lincoln Riley. We we kill him. I mean, I know makes a great guy and everybody likes you and I like him, but there's certain things you've got to do and say coaches U, C, l A and one of
them be accountable. And he wasn't able. Were you shocked by that? By him not showing up? Bill? And have you ever had someone like like that to him? I came to the game just to talk to him. I was stunned. Yeah. Well when when they when they brought into the assistant coach showed up, I'm like, what's this? And they and then mixed They said, well Mick was talking to his players. Well we did it all, we did it all night talk committed, We don't.
I didn't really want to be so I was. I was absolutely stunned, and it was very unprofessional. And as far it was beneath UCLA, all the tough times you had, Stevell haven't always talked, Ben Allen talks, Steve Alper talk, they all talk. I just was very disappointed in Mick and I don't think I don't know you all follow us too tough. I
didn't I didn't. I mean, I think, look, we talked about it right afterwards, and we've talked about you know, as players, as as media, as you know, if you're a part of it, we all have responsibilities. It's not like as nineteen seventies or sixties where you could do your own thing. Part of contracts and part of the reason why you know, teams and leagues are getting all this money is because of the access
as well, and that's all part of it. And you've got to you know, it's not as you know, and a lot of coaches minds is not the same thing, but it is. Part of your job is to be accessible to the media. So no, I didn't think you were hard at all. As much as sometimes you hate to do postgame press conferences or talk about the game, especially if it's bad, you've got to grow up
and do it. And that's part of it. And then he made a scene on the court during the game, took this car off through his quarter against it on the floor, cursed out, the officials, got a technical foul, costs the team four points. I mean, that was bad. You need to explain that. I didn't think the fans and it's play out here from fans every game was ship behind a bench, and they're continually appalled by his increasing bad behavior. I think somebody would need to say something to
them. I really do. I mean, would you think Fred did you think Bill was too hard on Meck? Well, here's yeah, I actually did a little bit. I did. I mean, I first, I agree with you that he should have spoken after the game. I also understood the UCLA guy saying, well, you know, he's gonna be a while, and we didn't want people to sit around for an hour. Okay, I get that. I don't like it, but I got it. I got that. Uh, his demeanor, his behavior, He's really been the
same guy Bill No all along. I think he's gotten worse. I just think the pressure we didn't we didn't get these complaints three years ago, but we're getting all the time now. I mean, I'm getting from people who see him on the road, who sit behind the bench, win on the road, they hear him. I'm getting a lot of this now, and he's and what he said against after the Stanford game last week was really really
you know, unkind unfortunate. The meaning he says players were smart. He says players were smart, well, he said the blame was all the players, not him. Every by one of his players who was struggling, he said, it's him, not me. That's just wrong. You got to say it's always You're the coach. Act like it. It's you. It's your responsibility, take the heat, shoulder the burden, cover for the kids.
Don't throw some eighteen year old kid who is who is you know at five thousand dollars in home, probably homesick, struggling to fit the tack twelve basketball both on under the bus. Gotta protect the kids, right, you gotta protect these and and the other thing is, look, I get it. I understand there are certain things that happen on a moment's notice and in life that you got to deal with and you maybe have to deal with the kids. And hey, I'm talking to my kids right now. I'm I'm
not gonna be able to make the press conference. But like you said, you came there to speak to him. It didn't matter how long you had to wait. You were ready to wait for him, and that that deserved and uh an explanation. Right, everybody was wait. It wasn't just me. Everybody was gonna wait. We gonna waited all night for him. He's the head coach. Yeah, you wait for the head coach. Yeah, all right. On the topic of coaches, Darvin Ham, all of a
sudden, those reports surfaced that he might be on the hot seat. Rodney and I could not figure that out. I mean, I didn't think and I do not think the Lakers would make a change. Do you think that was a bit overblown? Yes, I mean, well a lot. I would. A column came the King firements. That's absolutely insane as the dumbest thing I've ever heard. I think. No, No, I think the players are are seven. The players don't like his rotations, they don't like
his strategies. They don't I don't think they respect is basketball like you. That's what I hear. But you know what, they need to play better. They were the same players who played great. Ye know last season, all the role players are doing terrible. He played in the tournament. They played well too. So what are we talking about? Yeah, play and Darwin. The sturt all about three weeks of guys complaining, and I think that did get overblown. I mean, I know, I mean I think
it's real. The discontent was real. So I think the Lakers are front offers is back of him. I think he's being back in front office. I think it's I think that's going to be. I just can't imagine him making a change. I mean, I just can't talk. If you lost five in a row, he's gone. And that's ridiculous. This guy saved your butt last year. You were two to ten and he took it to the conference finals. Are you kidding me? Behind all this, of course,
the voice behind all this who's not been heard is Lebron. And obviously if Lebron had was really supportive, he would say more about him. Lebron doesn't like to talk much about him. So there's a concern that Lebron it does not like him as a coach. But I say to that, I say, you know what, Lebron could be gone that year, Recker. This year, he could go where where Bron's being drafted. He may even be with the Lakers next year. You can't count out of Lebron, you
can't count out of the malcontent, struggling role players. Just go with your gut, and for my money, Can has been a great coach. It's just absurd that they think about get rid of him. You really think Lebron is whispering in the background. Oh he always is. Gray. Come on, you guys know that anything you see that comes out of that locker room, maybe Lebron doesn't start it, maybe he doesn't participate in it, but he certainly endorses it, and they wouldn't come out. There's no way a
player in there he's going to complain to a writer. Let's you think Lebron's got back? Fred? Did you actually ask Bill Plaski? Do you think Lebron is whispering in the background? Yeah, But here's why I asked that. Here's why you've been a cheerleader. Lebron is the puppet master and pull into all the strings since he's been here. Did you ask Bill Plaski?
Come on, you know what I did. And here's why, Because give them what happened last year and as well as they played, and they got to the conference finals and they won the end season tournament, and Lebron is having an incredible year. I just don't even know what he'd have to bitch about, to be honest with you, I mean, what is he complaining about. He looks great. They're not winning, man, Yeah, but yeah, he looks great and not winning. That's exactly right, right,
He's exactly right. He looks great, he's I'm awed by I am literally awed by him every home to see him play. He's incredible. But they're not winning, and he's thirty nine years old, and he's running out of a chance to win. And I think that that's that's what God has up said. And you saw look at his quote the other night, look closely at him. He's asked about Darvin, he gives a short sentence. He's asked about time. He's asked about the Clippers, and he calls him the
Tylu Clippers, and he's raised and raised about his buddy Tylo. It was really an interesting uh bit of disparity there between his quotes about Darwin and his quotes about Tylerumber. When Lebron likes you, you know it. When he doesn't like you, you know it too. All right, Well, real quick, how big a game is this for Matthew Stafford. I think it's I think you don't talking about this somebody that today. I think the pressure is all Jared Golf. Yeah, Stafford is Stafford won a Super Bowl.
He's beloved to Detroit. Nobody's gonna booing and they love him there. He's going home with a concreting hero already. But Jered Golf has to prove himself. To show across the field from a guy who didn't believe in it would cut him loose. I think the Cuns. I think Stafford's got a last game. I think Goff's got all the pressure, all the pressure. I think that's to decide the game. I think Golf is not even able to hold up under the withering stare of Sean McVay. I think that's the meaning
the story of the game. Mm hmm. Well, I think it's a big game. I told Rodney earlier. I think it's a big game for the city of Detroit, a city and uh continually rebuilding. I think it means an awful lot to those guys here. You're city Fred, your puns were right. Yeah, absolutely, you're going back to the game. I'm not. No, I'm gonna be uh. And you know, and I've told the story Bill. It's weird. None of my sons have ever been to the city of Detroit, and for whatever reason, they are Lions fans.
I have no idea why. And they live and dialog in the blood. Yeah, and I looked and growing up. I never even brought it up to them. It's just that's where they went. It's in the blood, Fred, It's very cool. It's very cool. It's cool. Well for your sake, So your stents are share over the Lions obviously. Oh yeah, yeah. I took the three of them when the Lions played the Chargers this year at so Far. I took them to the game and the Lions won, and it was a shootout, probably the best game of that
Sunday. They had the very best time, you know what. It was a great moment I and it was the first time in a long time I had all tread them together. It was fun. So they're all rooting for the Lions. I'm really happy. Now who are you? Who are you rooting for? Fred? Well, here's what I said. My heart says the Lions, but my head says the Rams. Your your wallet says the Rams. The Rams. Who in you made more money? Bet your wallet always go all the way readership. There you go, head, don't bet
your heart. Bill, thanks for doing this. We appreciate it. Man. Guys are aweso to see it. Our good buddy Bill Plashki. All right, we need spirituality, and we're gonna have that spirituality when Vic joins us next. Yeah, come on Tuesday, Come on. It's been a great show. We got to cap it off with a great spirituality. Come on, Freddy. Oh we desperately need it, you know. Plash he comes on, blew up the whole show, blew it all the way up.
It blew it to hell, just blew it up. So now we have to have somebody bring it back, somebody who will talk about Otani san and Yamamoto son. Yes, then there's only one, Frett, only one, only one person that can do that. It is Vic the brick with the daily haiku and Vic that afternoon he's picked up the javelin a lie Yammoto Son, it's fred Rogen Yellow. He can throw a javelin, fling a discus, Rodney Pete heavy dB ry. Did did you do track and field
at the USC as well? No? I didn't. I played baseball, Victor. That was the third baseman for the Trojan baseball team. Multi skilled, Yes, sir, he is the essence of decathlon. He does it all. It's Kevin Figures now shot, come on now and in for Riti today. She's wondering if Jim Harbaugh will bolt Michigan for her charges, Katie Newton built up forever, bolt up, just because I'm always gonna built up, Katie. I love I love the fact that you're a Chargers fan and
you're with them year in and year out. That's perfect, twenty five years of it. They're on the breakthrough. I'm with you. There's gonna be a breakthrough offseason, and it revolves around Jim Harball. But more in that later. Everybody says to me, Vic k Passa with the last week caliente hot Japanese impoet left on the free agent market, the thirty year old lefty
showta Imanaga. Well, the Dodgers, you know, very under the radar to this guy who'd be in middle of the rotation type of talent, you know, behind Bulah, Yamamoto, Glass, Noow Miller, don't forget Tony Gonsel and Dustin May. Don't forget these guys. They're coming back, y'all. But according to New York Posts John Hayman, the Hated Ones and the Angels have pulled out of the Immanagathan sweepstakes. Still in it, Cubs, Red Sox and the Mets. Who I think if they signed, put them
in the bullpen, because their bullpen is in hell. Whose bullpens in hell? Vic the Mets or the bullpen Mets, well Angels as well, but the Mets bullpen is really in great need. But you know, but who cares. There is an iman Haga deadline to sign two pm on Thursday. If there's no deal for Ima Naga, he stays in Yokohama. Really exactly this feel. So if somebody comes in Friday morning, they're asked out if IMAA is not signed Thursday by two o'clock exactly right. So you know,
teams are clamoring right now to make a deal. Don't be late. Obviously not of the you know, high caliber rotation piece that you want, but you know number three in the rotation A number four be a very nice picker for someone. Yes, you got to give it up for the Michigan Wolverines, no a little bit. How dominant was that team last night? I mean I picked the Wolverines to win it, but not by twenty one. Well, I thought they'd just be more physical. I said that yesterday.
They own the trenches, totally owned the offensive line. I mean three hundred and three yards rushing most ever won a championship game that was insane. So hail Hail to Michigan, y'all. Yeah, although Michael Pennix played the worst game he played in two years, and he had a lot to do it. He missed a lot of open throws. He was just I felt bad for him because it was on the biggest stage. He had his worst performance. He was beaten up. I think the Wolverines got to him once,
but they hit him a lot. Oh yeah, he got hit the end of the game. He was he was basically in a fog. It took him a while to clear his head. This was This was an amazing performance spired by Michigan on both sides of the ball. So now what for Jim Harbaugh. First Michigan title in twenty six years. He's restored the domination of the Wolverines in Anna Aubor. He's been there nine years already. It doesn't seem like he's been there nine years. No, but he's been there nine
years. Yeah, it doesn't, but he has right, he went through he went through those dark days and when he first got there, losing to what losing to Michigan, stayed a few times can't beat Ohio State. Yeah, he went through it. And you know a lot of people just jumped on or just a recognizing him of late. But he went through those lumps. Boy, they were questioning. There were even those that question whether or not he was the right guy at Michigan, and they would ever turn it
around, and here we are. Well, Harball after the game planted seeds of maybe returning to Michigan. He was talking about spring practice, delaying it a month after Valentine's Day. So there were signs of maybe a tenth year in ann Arbor. But don't they Charges have to make an incredible offer to Harball? Control money, the whole thing. The ball is in the Chargers corner at this point because Jim has San Diego roots from and he coached the
Torrero's you know, back in the day. He has charge of roots. It's up to the Charges, It's up it's up to the the Spano's family to just make a bold move. No, well, yeah, the question I've said, all, yeah, I don't think it has to do with money. I think it has to do with control. Why not give Harball control? I don't understand this control issue. If you've given up control the last few years. Look where you look, where you are. I mean
you have justin Herbert. You've got a quarterback blossoming before your eyes. He needs a harbor to guide him. No, I mean you just have Harbaugh guiding Herbert. I'm sure Harball Love would love to nurture the career of her of her of Herbert. At this point, I say, give him could control, Give it to him, give him the money and let the bolts break out. What are you gonna lose at the end of the day. You know you picked the players, You coach the players, that's all you.
You got nobody else to blame but yourself. Give them control exactly exactly right. This control issue thing is, it's really very nebulous and really meaningless. You need the head coach to be in control anyway. Yes, what if Parcels say you want me to cook the meal, you gotta let me buy the groceries. Baby, yep. Look at Sean. Look at Sean McVay with the Rams. I think he has a pretty good working relationship with less sneed. Yeah, yes he does. But he has total control.
No, I mean doesn't McVeigh. I don't think he has to. He might have finally say over the fifty three man roster. But I don't know if he has guard the fortunes the rams. I still think less less less has a lot of power less. Oh yeah, it's a collective, but he has a major, insane, powerful role in shaping the and shaping the roster. Yes, but there's control. There's there's levels of this that there's control, and then there's total control. Hill Belichick has total control, Pete
Carroll has total control. Like there's a few and far between where the head coach literally is the head of the snake at every turn. But it can't work. Belichick and and Pete have been great. It can work for sure, But you speak of Belichick, is Belichick in the mix at all? He better not be. Yeah, I agree with you, Rodney. Yeah, I'll do respect. I'll do respect. Now, considering what he said the other day, like he'd willing to be willing to give up control.
Wouldn't it be as if if the Patriots said we're done, that he would just say he's done. It's either the Patriots or nothing, and he would just retire at that point. Field. That's kind of the vibe that I get. Yeah, it feels that way, and I think it should be that way to be honest with you. What else does he have to uh approve other than I didn't go out on a high note. But at the end of the day, nobody's gonna care about the last couple of years.
They're gonna look at twenty years of twenty whatever years that he's been at the Patriots and seven titles. Mm hmm. I mean nine tastes of the Super Bowl for Belichick is unbelievable. Yeah, but but he lost to my Jets on the way out. Yeah, can't stop. Can't stop't stop. Gallichick lost to the Jets. Man, Finally Jets got him one. That's what's It's named Vic. That's what's got him keeping coming back. Can't he has Jets taste of the Jets in his vouth. He can't take it. Yeah,
they got your bill. Come on, let's keep it moving now. We yet to get to it, but we need it. Come on, Rodney Pete bred Rogan, Bick the Brick Jacobs, come on, baby. The bounce back after the Laker loss last night totally crushed the Suns by twenty seven. Yeah, that's because that's because Kawai sat for three minutes the night before. That was the whole difference. That was an odd ball move. You know, if he hadn't sat out for three minutes, they would not
have won last night, the final three minutes. Basically, yes, ready, I'm sorry, I still didn't I something went wrong, something sideways there. You were flummoxed. You were flumixed by the clauseting, and I think everyone was. This minute restriction is should it be that that harsh? It's not should the close game with your with your hated rival the Lakers. Something else happened. That's another thing Vic that we Yeah, we talked about a
lot, but yeah, it's against the Lakers. It's not against Orlando. Go play those three minutes against the Lakers. You want to continue that domination. It's a bizarre domination, but it is domination of the Clippers over the Lakers. But the Lakers wanted it more. Again, the Lakers side pieces suddenly showed up. You know, Christian Wood became Christian Wood. That's the recipe for disaster. If your eye pieces are showing up, there's a designated
area in crypto for them to be sitting there. They shouldn't be showing up on the floor. Yeah, and don't show up to the funeral. No, god, Yeah, the real awkward moments was that sixteen or nineteen now for the Clippers six guys and double figures. I was, I was, I really was a wild win. You know what. You're watching it and they're playing really superb basketball on the other side. How bout are the Sons? Yeah? Yeah, what's going on? And they're three headed monster?
Was all there? Book Booker's there, of course, Kd's there. Raley Beal, Bill Bill is health, you know healthy. No, I think the Clippers own the Suns. That's twice in five days. The Clippers have taken care of business with this with the Suns. This is not a good look for Frank Vogel, like he doesn't have a great look for the Clippers right well, because when they traded for Bradley Beal, they gave everybody else up. Yeah, and when Beale got hurt, what she always does,
and he plays five games, But I think is what he's played. That happens, and Bookers miss time and Kd's miss time. You have one of those guys out, you'd run out of a bunch of G leaguers as their teammates five hundred record is what you get, Yeah, because they can't afford anybody else. Yep, yep. And fellas, are you as bummed as I am the jama Rans out for the season with the That's awful. That was so sad. That is horrible news. I mean, you know,
of course from Memphis, it's a gigantic body blow. But for basketball fans, you just you know, you love seeing them play. We understand that, you know the issue is a twenty five game suspension, but you know you watch Joe play. You were rooting for his comeback. And fellas, are you as large a fan of Prince as I am? Oh? Could you stop the iconic album? Stop it? The iconic album Purple Rain. It's getting a lot of love. Katie hit me. It's soon to be
a musical for years after its release. One of my favorite pieces of music of all time. Elevated Prince into the rock star stratosphere. Love it, you know, Uh, Washington didn't do it justice last night. They had hashtag Purple Rain r E I N H G N for them last night in the National Championship Game. Oh Purple Rain. And then they go get their asses handed to them up front. Great tribute to Prince there, Thanks Dogs Good. He was a lot of adversity prints Prince and came out on the
other side. Man. He lost him too soon. Back in the back of the eighties, he opened for the Rolling Stones. Only if you guys remember that tour, he plays Los Angeles. He was opening for the Stones, was booed mercilessly in l A. Was Prince disrespected? Dropped by the tour? Ye for George Thoroughgood and the Destroyers, Go figure. I witnessed that tour nineteen eighty two Sun Devil Stadium. I drove nine hours from Roswell,
New Mexico to Tempee because I wanted to. I really wanted to say Prince more than the Stones, and I love the Stones, but I was so into Prince because his album broke in eighty one. I think it was his first album. I think it was like nineteen years old. Yeah, yeah, a true student, true student of music. Vic. You know, Holly had an opportunity to go record a song with Prince back at Paisley park Way back in the day wow in the eighties. Yeah. The song
was called Holly Don't Care and Prince sang on the song. Is that right? Yeah, never been released, but yeah, he still has. They got to release that tune. I know, I know, but it's Prince, he owns everything, so it's a you know, a little tough sledding, I hear you. But it will be a musical soon. I saw that Michael Jackson musical which was fantastic. I can't wait for that Jacks when
you're talking about VIC, Yeah, mj was really good. I think it's have the pantages, right, yeah, pantagious absolutely, which leads us, which leads us all the way back to oh you got it, okay, Rodney. But again, relations to the people, you know, all the producers who have the foresight to make Prince Purple Rain of musical. It's gonna be fantastic as this is high coup. Oh yeah, it's from Rand Setsu.
Everybody, Oh yeah, Ran Setsu. Rand sets for first name, Torri ah k A t t O r I Torri grend Setsu all right, sixteen fifty four to seventeen oh seven. A Samurai haiku poet who was absolutely nurtured by Basho. He was thought to be Basho's most passionate devotee. What Rand Setsu very under the under the radar doesn't get much publicity. Tory ran Setsu with a winter haiku for everybody today, Right, I love it. This winter highkup for you on this Tuesday, January the ninth from rand Setsu
R A N S E T. We got it. Wait, we got it wet. See this is where the grumpy thing comes from. That wasn't necessary. I'm not grumpy at all. Get to it, Bick, we got it. He already said four times. That wasn't grumpy. Right, I'm not grumpy. I'm not grumpy, but I mean it's Ransetsu a disciple of you're just saying it again for the people in the back, just setting it up. Fred, there's a whole art to it. Come on, you can't rush into the tranquility Fred, No, no, And we're certainly
not a winter high crew for you. The snow fell in the night and people rouse each other up to see the lovely sight. I'm feeling you, Freddie Ransetsu. Yeah, and Ransetsu learned everything he knew from Basho together devotee Fredd a devotee Katie. Thank you, nice job today, Kevin, outstanding work. And Rodney back at it tomorrow. Yes, sir,