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Sports Illustrated is facing major layoffs (and may be going away completely). We discuss the changing landscape of sports media. Dan Woike hops on to talk about what potential trades (if any) the Lakers may explore.

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just kicking the name around, right. I told you there's no way that Rogers are going to spend one hundred million dollars on that guy. Well, there's two things. First, apparently no one is spending one hundred million dollars, but the Houston Astros are spending ninety five nine five ninety five million. Looks like he got what he wanted. He got what he wanted. He's the highest paid reliever in Major League Baseball history. Wow. I guess they

didn't care very much that there were games he didn't want to play. I guess that works for them. I guess so, hey, big fellow, we're gonna need you tomorrow. No, I don't think so, not tomorrow. You think you're gonna pull that? I don't think I can go tomorrow. Wait, apparently he did it in San Diego. Why wouldn't he do it there? Yeah? I guess so. Well, I guess he might be able to do it since Dusty's out, Chris, Dusty would not put

up with that. Dusty would not put up with that. Sure. But man, yeah, you know he said, we just talked about in the teas, and I was absolutely sure, not only with you know, paying that much for a reliever, but just the baggage that that he comes with as well. And we just mentioned one about you know, pitching on his terms, but the baggage he comes with as well, that would somebody roll the dice and go choose him and sign him. And apparently Houston Astros certainly

didn't care about all that. What would you you know what, when you're really look at the big picture, who do you think would sign him? The Mets or the Astros? Right? And he ended up with the Astros. Dodger fansn't was any sleep. Would it have been a nice addition? Sure? Were they gonna pay him what he wanted? No? Were they going to give him the number of years he wanted? No? So good

luck and enjoy Houston. Okay, So a story came down today and it really speaks to a number of things that are happening right now in the media industry. And why does this matter to you? Because that's how you consume your information. You get it from the media. Now it could be traditional media, legacy media, social media. In any event, you get information. As a matter of fact, more people than ever before check the news. More people than ever ever before check the news. They just check it

in different ways. And because they check it in different ways, legacy media companies, mainstream media companies are having a lot of problems. We'll start with Sports Illustrated basically SI, which was the gold standard in sports reporting for many years, Rodney, when you and I were growing up, that was the magazine to have. That was it. That was it. That was the

magazine everybody. It was basically the sports bible, Fred and you couldn't wait for that new Sports Illustrated to come out for a variety of different reasons because you wanted to see who was on the cover, and then certain articles that were in there where they were all, you know, well written and informative and really had great writers at Sports Illustrated. So it was the magazine. Do you remember inside Sports Illustrated. I remember this as a kid growing up.

They used to have this little section in the back of Sports Illustrated called Faces in the Crowd. Faces in the Crowd. They would pick random people from all around the country, and you know, you'd submit a story and you would hope and wish and pray that they would pick your story to be in Faces in the Crowd. And I used to go to I actually used to go to that first when I was a little kid and just go,

look, Oh, who's the Faces in the Crowd? Some kid from Texas who scored forty eight points and a half in basketball, or a pitcher, threw a no hitter in high school and all that kind of stuff. And one of the biggest memories I had is I was in the faces of the crowd high school. Yeah, how cool is that? Was a kid and faces in the crowd. In high school, I had a big game where I set at that point, set a state record in passing for four hundred

and forty yards or something like that. I threw forth and and my coach sent it into Sports Illustrated and they ended up printing it and put me in the faces in the crowd. Man, that was cool. Well, yeah, Rodney, you know, being in faces in the crowd was pretty cool. Yeah, weren't you on the cover of Sports Illustrated, Rodney? You

were? Usc That was my next thing. So high school that was it, you know, and faces in the crowd, And then and then my senior year, after we beat UCLA, was lucky enough to be on the cover of Sports Illustrated. So that was that is the big thing for me,

and I still still to this day cherish it. I've got, you know, the big blow up poster of it in my office at home, and then of course my parents got I think they've got I think they had like four or five of them around their houses, around their house in Arizona. So, yeah, that is a big deal. And like I said, I still cherish that today be on the cover of Sports Illustrated. That's

a big deal. Yeah, so it really meant something. Yeah, absolutely, And that's where you went for your sports information and people lived for it every week as you put it out. The writers were great. Well here's the problem. No one's really reading printed material any longer. So what happened. Sports Illustrated switched hands numerous times, different people owned Sports Illustrated, and

then it became basically a digital property. And just so you understand listening, a digital property does not generate the kind of revenue the traditional print model did. Different less to advertise on digital, so you don't make as much money. So then they went into the digital model. And when you do something like that, you got to cut your costs because you're not make it as much. So suddenly some of these really talented writers you have no longer work

there because they can't afford to pay him. And you get to a point in this world in which we live where the feeling is it doesn't really matter who's doing what people just consume when they consume. Here's the bottom line. As all of this is transpired and things have gone down and the property has changed, the property has changed ownership. Today there is word that they're going to lay off a significant portion, possibly all, all of the outlet staff.

All of the outlet staff. How it got there irrelevant, it's all this business and stuff. You don't care, but you do care about all of the staff. Can you imagine? Wow, the talent, all of the staff because they believe it doesn't matter any longer. And what has happened over the years, is it that they don't matter or they just can't compete.

Well, they can't make money. They can't make money money when you got you know, the athletic out there and all these digital sports outlets that are popping up or have popped up over the over the last few years, that the competition, the market is so saturated that you said, like you said, they can't they can't generate the income like they used to and just can't compete. Can't compete, right, And they didn't adapt, they weren't

innovative, they didn't try things. Now they find themselves are like Blockbuster. Pardon me, They're like block They were like Blockbuster couldn't adapt. Hey, here's an idea. Why don't we take that stuff and stream it online? All that will never work? No, Netflix is crazy. What are they doing that don'll never work? Goodbye to Blockbuster. We see the same thing out by the way on this very day happening. Get the La Times. Yeah, a number of the writers there are are walking on strike. They're

protesting today. Why because The Times is losing between forty and fifty million dollars a year, and the owner of The Times is saying, look, you know this is not a charity. I can't continue to lose money. We're going to have to cut costs. And when we cut costs, it means we're going to have to lay people off or we're going to have to adjust their salaries because we're not profitable. In all of this is because you listening consume your information differently. Now. Back in the day, the La Times

is the gold standard. I think Bill Plashki is the best columnist in the country. All the Dawn and all the people that come on the show, they are the best at what they do. But if the company isn't making enough money to support the business Suddenly they look at things differently, and what it does is it lessens the credited, accredited media. That's what happens because look, you probably get your information on x or you can get your information

on Instagram, or you can get your information on TikTok. You're informed. You are informed, and up to the second, up to the second. That's why when we do radio now, we are constantly looking for things that happen because the minute they happen, we have to react to them because that's how your mind works. It's very much like the strike zone. If the ball's in the box, you expect it to be called a strike. If

it's not, there's something wrong. If you see an alert on something that just happened, and we think it's important enough, if you come to us, we should be discussing that because that's how our minds work now. It's not the way it used to be. In TV. For example, this project I'm doing in Palm Springs, we are trying to recreate the model for presenting local television news information. That's what I'm doing out here. I'm not

doing sports. There was a whole model that we have laid out to try to reinvent the way information is presented, and you say, well, why would you do that, because the model in which I grew up working in is fractured. It's no longer efficient, and it's barely effective because you know things immediately, so you don't have to sit there and wait till five o'clock for somebody to tell you. When I'm doing the local sports as I was for many years, and I tried, I did all I could there to

say, we got to look at this differently. Is I was doing the local sports, I would say, it's eleven o'clock at night, I'm going to show Dodger highlights, the game's if it's on the East Coast, the game's been over four and a half hours. And on the other side of it, I'm going to make it seem like, well, you don't know what happened in the Dodger game tonight. Well, of course you do. If you didn't hear it, you watched it. If you didn't watch it,

you read about it. If you didn't read about it, you saw clips online. So what we were doing was becoming obsolete. It's fractured. When you tune into the news at five o'clock in the afternoon or six o'clock at night, and unless it's live and happening right now, you already know it because you know it, because you have the information in the palm of your hand. So what we're trying to do out here is reinvent the model

in a small place that could translate to larger markets. It's different for some people, it's terrifying. Our reaction has been pretty good, but also some of the reaction has been, what the hell are you doing? I could never watch anything like this. This doesn't matter. The cost of failure has never been less. Yeah, So what you find with Sports Illustrated and all of these talented writers going out of business, that model doesn't work. People

consume their information differently. They didn't adapt the La Times. The writers walking out, God, I feel for all of them. They're so talented and so hard working. But people aren't consuming their information like that any longer. In television. The people I worked with for all those years I have so much respect for. It's like you're not heading toward the iceberg on the Titanic. You're not. You've already hit it, and now the question is are

you going to get off before it goes down. That's the challenge all media companies face. That's the challenge we face Rodney on a daily basis. I mean, if something happens, we have to react immediately, immediately. If we don't react immediately, we're behind. Because that's the way the world works. Yeah. Right, when you see a replay in basketball and we're sitting at home, we go, my god, that was a foul, but the officials say it wasn't. That doesn't work. Our minds don't work that

way. We have an expectation. Now you show us a play, if we claim it's ball, strike out, say foul out about that. That's what it is. Don't tell us anything differently. It's like what we just talked about with Josh Hater, right, we talked about that. We actually teased it that where is he going to go? What is he going to do? Who's going to pay that money? And between the teas and us starting the show two and a half minutes, two and a half minutes,

the word came down that he had signed with the Houston Astros. Are they in agreement? I mean that's how quickly it things happen, and that you can get the news out. So for petrols and money after us. It's old news, right, We've already dealt with it three hours before they go on the air, even though it's still fresh because it just happened. But they're going to be late to it when they do their show. I mean, it's just the crazy. Like you mentioned, that's the way the world

is now. Everybody wants immediate gratification or immediate effect or information from their phone, from the computer, from wherever they get it. I feel badly for the people in Sports Illustrated, and I really feel badly for the people at the Times. And I feel badly for The Times, one of the crown jewels in American journalism. Why do you think that they why do you think

that? Is it because Sports Illustrated or even LA Times are late to the digital party or they just can't compete from a cost situation with you know, X or the Athletic or Barstool Sports or whoever else is out there that are giving out sports information on a regular basis. They can't compete that quickly from a cost perspective. People at the LA Times are writers, and they're good writers. They're trained, they have access, they have credibility, they're really

good writers, and they should be compensated as such. I'm not saying the writers at barstool are not talented nor anywhere else, but you are looking at a crown jewel. Those people know what they're doing and they can provide because they've been there, and there's value in equity, and they should be compensated. But the problem becomes unless you do something so incredibly different or unique, you can't stand out because the world is full of information and all people want

to do is consume it. So just because you're a great writer, you can write twelve paragraphs about something brilliantly, and somebody else can type up two lines, and you've ever reading it said I got that. I'm good. I don't need anything else. I'm good. You know when you go on when you go on social media now, and I don't know if you guys do this, but when you go on social media, here's the story, what do most people do immediately? Immediately they go to the comments, They

go to the comments. It's not even about the story anymore. How people reacting to this? How do people react to this? What are people saying? It's not even about the story, It's about the reaction But if you're in the business of telling stories when the reality is all people care about is the reaction, you're in a tough business. That's tough. That's why we saw what happened to Sports Illustrated and that's why those people are walking outside the

Times today. Yeah, but what I mean, Yeah, you got the people walking outside the Times and people that Sports Illustrated again laid out what can you do? What's the alternative? What's the solution? There isn't one,

right, there isn't one. No, there isn't one. And that's why when you watch local news in Los Angeles, a market of fifteen million people, if you take everybody watching every newscast at five pm, every single viewer, that rates and that's the only measuring system we have, the ratings, total them up. You can't fill the Rose Bowl. There's fifteen million people. You can't fill the Rose Bowl. Fifteen million people across every station.

There's not one hundred thousand watching total total. Yeah, but they're all informed, they all have their information. They don't need to watch, they don't have to sit down and watch because they have the information. The model is broken, it is, and really the funniest thing about it broken or is it just it's become obsolete? Because both it's broken. No, you know

why it's broken. Why is it broken? Okay, it's broken because adjustments were not made early on to foresee this and correct it and do it differently. That's why it's broken. And because there's a refusal to change, that's why it's broken. And the sad thing, it's not coming back. That's

not coming back. If you don't do things differently, you're done. So if they would have got out ahead of the whole digital world, say Sports Illustrated, Ay, we're moving things digitally at a time when it was people were still on the fence of whether this was gonna work or not, they would have been they would have been Netflix, Netflix, because Netflix, remember they used to have hard disc hard you know DBDs that they would even go and drop them off in the box and they would send them to you in

the mail. You would get them and all that kind of stuff. And then they evolved quickly to streaming and we'll do everything online, and that's where they took off and killed everybody. So you're saying that the times in Sports Illustrated did not adapt to that model soon enough, and look at it like this. What if Sports Illustrated said, you know, we've got a great brand here, but what we're gonna do is kind of branch off a little bit and become Barstool Sports or you know what I mean. Yeah, yes,

something like that. We're just gonna branch off a little bit. Okay, it's gonna be a white label for us. We own it, but we're gonna do this too. Suddenly you could have seen a difference, and Bistool Sports is in trouble. Now we would have become Bleacher Report. You know, we could have become anything. And everybody tries, and to be honest with you, a lot of people have tried, and the majority of them have failed, not succeeded, but at least they tried. At least

they tried. And the damnedest thing about all of this, and obviously I'm more a student of the media than the sports guy, and I've always told people that I love our business. The damnedest thing. The prediction was audio or as you listen now, radio would be the first to die. Yeah, that was the prediction. No one's gonna listen anymore. That's it. I'm telling you, people that really know what they're doing it now. Papers are bad, but radio is in huge trouble. Radio has never been more

vibrant. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, yeah, you're right. With podcasting now, audio as we call it, audio has never been more vibrant. You never You've never had a chance to connect with so many people. And you know the other part of it that is even funnier. If podcasting works, what else works? The spoken word? Talk radio? Talk radio works. It's a connection on a daily basis and an engagement and an interaction, something they can't do on TV. But the only other place you can find

at is online and social media. With the comments, you're interacting, you're exchanging ideas, You're engaged. The same goes for audio. You're engaged, you're listening to us. You might think I'm full of crap, you might think I'm the smartest guy in the world, but you are engaged because we are talking to you and exchanging ideas. Legacy media companies, Sports Illustrated are good friends. At the times KNB see they're not engaging people. They're not

engaged. They read passively. They want great writers, but the engagement is not there, and that's what matters now. It's the engagement in this new world of technology. That's why we're where we're at. That's why we see this with Sports Illustrated and your heart goes out to them, That's why we see this with the Times. My heart goes out to them. We love them, love them. That's why my heart goes out to everybody doing local news because you can sit there and think, my god, I'm still doing

a service to the community, and the matter. The truth of the matter is you're just surviving and thank god, you're working and getting a paycheck. It's crazy even with you know, with with sports and you know a lot of things, but particularly sports the post game, right, it's not it

doesn't have the lust that it used to have. I mean, you still get some sound bites heering there, but people, a lot of people are just I'm just going to go to his Instagram page and get the full scrit a full scoop on what happened, right, And that's why I always said to you, Rodney, and with respect to all that, do it. Oh, I'm gonna be in the locker room ask that first question. Why why if you care about something, you get the whole thing streamed somewhere on

YouTube. You can read every word that somebody said. It's all written out for you somewhere. You can find it. No, I'm gonna wait for that twenty five second SoundBite. I'm gonna wait because I know tonight, even though I've read everything that said and I've watched the whole thing tonight, I just got to relive that fifteen seconds. No. No, the model doesn't work anymore. And that's the challenge for all media companies. That's a challenge,

and that's a challenge for us here. We are looking at ways to innovate. At iHeart, we understand everybody understands. It's just who's gonna do it. Who's gonna step up, who's gonna have the courage, who's gonna buck conventional thinking? Who? Here? In Palm Springs. I'm telling you this newscast we're doing, and it was a model I pitched in LA. It looks nothing like news nothing, but it's information and it's engaging. It's a new way to do it. Is it gonna work? I don't know.

I mean, could it fail in Palm Springs? Maybe? But nothing else works, so how can it fail? Yeah? I'm serious? Why not? Right? That's right. Not what's the risk and trying this? There's no risk. What we do doesn't work, So let's try it this. Let's see if we can get people that consume information differently in the tent. Let's try. I'm sorry, I just went off. Oh no, it's good, good stuff on a Friday. I love it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right, we got to get to Dan Waki.

No, Rodney, I apologize. That was ridiculous. Oh no, no, it was good stuff, good stuff, all right. So our NBA insider Dan Wiki joins us. Now let's get into Laker possible trade deals. Oh, yes, it is a Friday, a beautiful Friday. I might add Road and Rodney. We absolutely usually don't care on Friday. Oh we don't. We don't. We don't care on Friday. And uh, but we do care about our next guests coming on. Fredd. Don't care about him a lot. Yeah, we do. And uh just want to break

this to you because it happened. Now. I's working on a deal of finalized Antonio Pierce's head coach. Yes, we're gonna get into that with Vinnie bonnceignor here soon. Yeah, local guy looks like he won good for him. Benny bon Signioro Beiandre. In the one o'clock hour, we'll get into it. Let's bring on our NBA insider Dan Woiki Dan, how are you hello, guys? I'm very good. How are you? Guys? Just

find Dan? All right, Lakers, just cut to the chase, stay the course or shake things up. O. It is a It's a fascinating question, right, and uh, it is one that I've had a lot of discussions about lately. It is one that I've had a lot of disagreements about the people. I've heard a lot of varying opinions. I mean, I think I think guys the right way to look at this, right and we can talk about what we think or what I think they should do or

whatnot. I think it's more important, like what they're gonna do. I think I think here's what we know. Rob Plink has been always been very aggressive at the trade deadline. I would expect them to again be very aggressive, right, Like we know they've talked to Atlanta about Dejantay Murray. We know they've had conversations with other teams, but like, look that's not breaking

news. That's what that's it'd be negligence if they didn't. But I think they're looking, and I think the reason they're looking is because they have Lebron James, they have Anthony Davis, and those guys are playing at a level in which you can it's not hard to squint to see how if those two guys are playing like the way they've played, particularly in this past week against Oklahoma City in Dallas, and if they can string those together in a playoff

series or a playoff run, like, it's not hard to imagine this team

winning a series or two series or maybe even more. Where it's tricky is when you start thinking about, Okay, well, like what about the month friar when they were sort of listless and you know, what about you know, age and injury concerns and how much are you putting into a team now that you know, if we're talking about you know, I don't think it's like scratcher odds, like lottery tickets, scratch your odds, but long odds, you know, like how much do you want to put into improving those

odds? And it is, Uh, there's a lot of different sort of permutations. I think the roster needs to get better. I said this you know recently on a on a YouTube show. But I think, to me, it's if I had to say what I would do or what I think they need. I think, whether it's an all star caliber player, whether it's not, they need to find someone who they can trust on both sides of the ball, Like simply like a guy who is competent offense, you

can play on defense. It's convenant on defense. So you have like another true two way player. I think that should be the most important sort of search, right. No, I hear you, I hear you, Dan.

But here's here's the thing. When we talk about trades, and there's names obviously that have been floating around, but also from a Lakers standpoint, from their current roster, you hear names like, Okay, they're gonna have to give up Austin Reeves, or they're gonna have to give up Rui Hachi Mura, D'Angel Russell's name has been popping up when you look at it, Uh who if you're Rob Linka and you're running the show, who are you most comfortable And it may be a bad way to put it, most comfortable

giving up in a trade of those three guys that I just mentioned, I mean, I mean, look, I don't think it's a secret that D'angela Russell is sort of the most likely to be moved. The contract is what it is. It's about about, you know, eighteen million dollars. He's got a option for next season. That player option has spooked some people a little bit. You know, it's not really an expiring deal. I think Delo's reputation as like a quote unquote winning player on the league is very high.

I think he dispelled some of that last year in the playoffs. But then you know, it doesn't help when the Lakers have a musten game right in Darbennham chooses to go Downis Schroger instead like he did in Game four. So you know, I think where Delo barely played, I think that's one

of those things, like you know, those guys. But the exception of Austin Reeves and maybe a little bit Max Christy, most of the Lakers' trade assets, and I would include ruining this are just mostly contract numbers, right, Like the real start of the show here, Rodney is the twenty nine first round pick, right because God, God knows what we're all going to look like in twenty twenty nine. But like you know, I mean that's that's five more years of AD, that's Lebron five more years from now.

Like I mean, the Lakers conceivably would be in some sort of rebuild and getting your hands on that draftic is like that's the real asset. Everything else. You know, Austin Reeves I think is probably next time sort of their asset hierarchy. But they're not going to trade as at least not for any of the players that we've heard about yet. You know, like that, you know, they're not interested in trading Austin to Jean Tae Murray. You

know, like that's just the reality of it. Now, I think could that change, I sure in it could anything change sort of way, but you know that's been communicated. I think, you know, so then now we're talking about guys like Max Chris tjalcha Fino, you know, those picks, second round picks, some swaps, like it's very all of that stuff. It's not like they don't have you know, RJ. Barrett or Manuel Quickly, you know, like those kinds of players to to dangle in trades.

That's just not that's just not the way their their roster is built. So it's gonna be a little bit of a harder road. So that's gonna be, that's gonna be what's on that point? Could try to figure out. All right, that being said, let's say nothing happens, do they have the choice to go all the way all the way? I don't think so. I think they are closer though, Like I'm a little more optimistic

after last week. I tried it to be like too much like a prisoner of the moment on these things, but like I kind of feel like in the last week they've gotten some of their juice back. And I think part of it is Jared Vanderbilt, a really really important player for their regular season. Obviously in the playoffs, his offensive limitations become an issue like that just

it happened last year the playoffs. It'll probably happen again this year. But I think, you know the way that they they're able to kind of just sort of throw him at guys, right, like you know, Luca and Kyrie. You know, he could guard you know, Paul George or Kawhi Leonard. Like he's big enough, right and and he's ranging up and quick enough. There was a play I want to stay in the fourth quarter against Dallas, where the Mavericks call timeout, you know, like one of those

momentum timeouts right where they wanted to try to stop the Lakers momentum. And usually that's when teams come out they run their best play. You know. It's where it's like you put your foot the garten. There's a chancing back in the game. Jared Vanderbilt snuck behind, like hustled down the court. Dallas didn't see him. He intercepted the amounts pass, throw it off Mavericks

player and forced turnover like the Lakers one by twenty. Like that play was sort of immaterial in the final score, but it like it's snuffed out a

comeback before it even start. It's a huge, huge play, And I think getting him back and him playing confident in him making those kinds of energy plays, it helps sort of fill in the gaps where like, you know, like Lebron just can't do that every night, like not at his age, Like that's just not Anthony Davis being asked to do so much he can't add even more so, it's like you know that that to me is where I think I'm most encouraged about where they're at now. Does it make them

all the way good. I mean they at they got a lot of climbing left to do. All right, Dan, thanks for jumping on today. Really appreciate it, guys. I appreciate it. I look forward to talking to you guys next week and uh, you know, maybe maybe we'll have new players. Who knows, we'll find out. Move the needle, Dan, move the needle. You want to do a quick who dis Rodney? Want to do a quick one? Yeah, let's do it. Let's get it in not come on eight six six nine, eight seven two seventy first

caller having a pick yep. Put you on the air. You're playing Rodney and Colin today. Who's ready for? Who is? Oh? Yeah? Come on. Today's afternoon Delight is Beautiful People by the Black Keys. This song is the first single off the duel's upcoming album, entitled Ohio Players, which will be released in early April. The album will feature a variety of guest appearances too, including collaborations with the likes of Noel Gallagher and Beck Again.

Today's Afternoon Delight is Beautiful People by the Black Keys. All right, it's pretty cool. It's our buddy listening on the app in Colorado Springs. His dad also listens to the show, Christian, how are you longtime of no talk? How's it going today? Happy Friday? Happy Friday to you. How's everything in Colorado Springs? Everything's good. I'm actually in Los Angeles right now. Remote next week? Are you're coming out? Nice? Nice? Is your dad coming to or there? Oh? No? Just me?

All right? Good? You know what? You come out here. We got some stuff for you, so we'll look forward to seeing you. Then. Who dis perfect. We'll give you a question and uh just yelled out when you know no restrictions. You have a challenge. Use it. It's upheld you at it. Use a challenge. It's denied. Locked out of the next question. Colin, you're ready. I'm ready, go to work. Here we go. I made ten All Star teams in my NBA

career. Kevin Gardead no Russell Westbrook, no good one good one, Kobe Via both they're wrong and good tries, Lebron James, Tim duncan, Neale Robinson, Damian Lillard No okay next. I was a tenth overall pick of the No Good. I was a tenth overall pick in the nineteen ninety eight NBA Drac Charles Barkley No. Ninety eight, ninety eight, No, Tracy McGrady, No. I won my only NBA title with Boston in two thousand and eight when I was finals MVP peers. Paul Pierce is correct. That's

Chris first that. Yeah. I don't even think Christian said anything he did, but Colin definitely got in first. Colin, you got a good job. Next up, I let the l what your Who's that? I don't know. That was a close one. I don't know if I want to challenge that or not. Oh oh, what do we have here? Good challenge that one. Okay, he's going to challenge it. Said it very confidently. Fred Let him go, Let him go do it. This is not a booth review. This is Christian challenging, all right. So Kevin

has cued it up. I like the confidence, Christian. I actually thought you got it, but you know, but you don't listen very well. Here we go. I won my only NBA title with Boston in two thousand and eight. When I will here finder two thousand and eight, when I will herein Yeah, yeah, Colin got it. Nice on calling through the heart. Oh thank you. Christian was close, you know, what that means? Lockedown through my heart? I thought I got that one. But

that was a good one. It was worth the challenge. Yeah, all right, Yeah, as long as you live with it, that's good. All right. So you're locked out of this question, Christian. I let the annelin home runs twice and won the batting title in two thousand and three. Albert Forls, Oh my God calling your row way? I swear to God, no way. Well the good news, Christian, you weren't locked out very long. You're back, lord calling? What did you eat this

morning? Man? When you you know, fed the Omonds today? The brand food. I don't even stand a chance. Now here we go. I was a fifth overall pick of the twenty sixteen NFL draft. Oh Todd Gurley now uh no fifth pick? Yep? Aaron Donald, no fifth pick. I won my only Super Bowl title with the Rams in twenty twenty one. Marson Robert Woods, No, uh yes, Jalen Ramsey is correct? Christian? No way? Yeah, man? What on a Friday? Rodney? You're not even I'm not even I might as well not even play.

I'm somewhere else. I'm in La La Land. Are you know where I am? You know where you're not myself today. You're in parts unknown. Yes, I am parts unknown. So's my mind. Here's your next one. I made fifteen All Star teams in my Hall of Fame basketball career. Fifteen Yeah, Magic Johnson, No, dun Yeah, Larry Bird, Christian, Tim Duncan, Christian. Yeah. Boy, he got locked out of that question. And that's it. I was on fire. Christian is playing

the game right, He's just firing out answers. Yeah, that's how you do it, Christian. I made uh thirteen Pro Bowls and was a ten time All Pro in my Hall of Fame career. Lewis no, Mike Irvin, no, Joy Aikman, Jerry Rice, Colin, no way, Jerry Rice, no way. How are you getting these like that? That's tell no, no, come on, I had my almonds today. That's the key. The question was what ten time All Star or ten time All Pro? Thirteen Pro Bowls? Ten All Pro thirteen? Wow? And you got

Jerry Rice in two seconds. Yeah, that's impressive. Come on, Sorry, it's going on here. Here's what we're going on here. Last question. Colin's got three, Christian's got two. Rodney got to get on the board. Here. We go. I was the eighteenth overall pick in the twenty twelve MLB draft, eighteenth pick eighteen in twenty twelve. Yes, Cory Seger, My god, Colin, that's it. You win. That ain't right? Something's going on here, So that is weird. Something's happening here.

That was a good guess that it's gotta be more yelled little. It feels a little like me when I had the answers that one time. Come on, come on, you know, he missed a couple of on purpose, and then you know, to make sure that we weren't onto him, and then he got some that were just way too quick, well too quick, all right, Corey seeger out of the blue. Yeah, that was weird. That was weird. I gotta be honest with you. But congratulations to you, Colin, well done, Thank you, Christian, great effort.

And we'll look forward to seeing you a week from today out at Spotlight twenty nine and Coachella. Excellent guys, looking forward to it. Hey, good game, Colin, us pleasure talking to you guys as always. Good game, Christian, right on, all right, we gave you the word as it broke. Antonio Pierce, local guy gets the Raiders head coaching job, and that's pretty cool. Vinnie bon Signoro beyond it about one twenty and we'll get into it with him. And when we come back, are the

Giants trolling the Dodgers? Well, what would you do that for? Because you know how bad that's going to be. But we'll get into it.

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