Today we're joined by a very special guest, one of my bucket list guests, you know him, Zakk Wylde. Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society, now out celebrating the legacy of Pantera all over the world. It's been amazing. You forgot the incoherent gestures and laundry in there as well, quite a bit of dogma. But carry on. I love it. Well, I want to mention too, I hope everybody at home is going to join me at Zakk Wylde's Festival, for Zerkis, Happening September 14th in Bushkill, Pennsylvania.
So much fun going to be happening. I'm looking forward to coming up for that. Yeah, I mean, Black Label Society, Cody James Clutch, so many more, a great opportunity to pay homage to Dimebag Darrow at the ride for Dine, raising money for charity, and just a strong man competition, so much excitement. Tickets are going fast.
Well, going back to the dishes and the laundry and cleaning the dog ones and all that, it's for my allowance money because the whole thing is I said, man, be great to get this thing together. We'll do this for Zerkis and we'll get all my friends together and we'll all have a good time. And then my one, my actually, my wife, Barbara Ann, was the one that brought it up. She said, you know, I know they're all your friends and that's all wonderful.
But you do realize you have to pay these people in order to show off. I was like, all right, better start doing some dishes, laundry, and cleaning the dog ones. I was wrong doing yes, I've been doing that for a while now, so I'm just saving up my pennies, so you know, so I could pay everybody so you know, to come down and jam. No, absolutely. It makes total sense. So you are obviously out here with these Panterra shows.
It's been absolutely amazing. You played Mass and Square Garden the other day. I'm curious, but in that case, you know, I mean, I'm honored every night. So, you know, on my buddies and, you know, honored Diamond Vennian and, you know, fill up a racks with what they created. You know, like I always say, every night when we're up there applying it, and everyone's having a, you know, a trip down memory lane. You know, everyone that saw the original Panterra, I could be able to hear the music again.
I mean, Phil says every night. I mean, it's just, it's pretty crazy when he just says, you know, obviously you have the Panterra faithful, and then he says, how many people is the first time seeing Panterra? And it's like a really truly as mind-blowing how many... It's awesome that there's no kids because I mean, I never got a chance to see Zeppelin back in the dash. So, you know, if you had, you know, you know, I actually would chase them along out there,
playing with the original guy. So we would just spend like, wow, this is pretty late, because we never got a chance to see Zeppelin back in the day. So, you know, just to hear those songs again live. So it's just odd. It's a beautiful thing, so I'm truly out of it. I love the Zeppelin analogy, because that's exactly how I felt, because I actually never got to see Panterra before, you know, the reunion, and for me, I was blown away by the shows. It exceeded my expectations, and they were alive.
I've seen you all several times, and it's just been really crazy, and it's been special to see. And I like to say this to people that I haven't heard anybody who's seen the show complain. You know, it's the feedback has been amazing, and you all have hit it out of the park. I'm curious for you, you stepped into two situations where, you know, there's this beloved guitarist who's no longer there.
That's a lot of pressure, you know, what was your preparation process like, you know, when you got the call? And you felt like, I mean, for me, I still different. Like I said, stepping in playing with Oz, you know, being such a massive fan. And obviously, you love them. Same words. I was frantic, Jake, and obviously Lord, I only, you know, or any dinner that was my college that I went to, you know, Lord, I only rip you in adversity over there.
But, no, we're just, I always say, especially with Oz, it's like being the coolest cover band in the world. Yeah, you get to do your own thing as well. But, you know, even when we do the experience Hendrix thing, you know, whether we're playing Purple Hayes, a little Wayne Means, and all, honoring Jimmy's greatest. No, you're just sitting, you do the homework and you learn the songs. You know, and then still, even when we do the exacts out of it, then it's the same thing, you know what I mean?
And there's no different than when we were 15, 16, 17 years old playing cake parties. Now, friends, backyards, or, you know, buddies, kitchen, or basements. The kitchen gates are always good. You always try to get positioned near the pantry. It's a case, and you want to get a tree. Hell yeah. But, you know, it's no different. You know, I mean, when I was 16 years old, I've had it now, and I'm 57. But that's in dog years, my liver, and pancreas.
So, you know, it's just, I'm 543 years old, but I mean, but no, it's the same, same mentality. You just sit and, you know, because we just added floods to the set before we came out on this leg of the thrift. Sure, no, it's the same thing. You just sit and you do your homework totally. And, and, I mean, it obviously shows. And I like to, when I talked to the guitarist, I just spoke to John 5 last week.
You know, it's this question of, did guitar come easy to you, or did you have to relentlessly practice? Is this something that, you know, you did nonstop to get to the level that you're at? No, I think with everybody, the good Lord gives you your death, but you still have to wash.
You know what I mean? So, you know, but it's just like, yeah, whether it's in bay, you know, or you're out to me or John McLaughlin or Frank Marino or Jimmy Page or, you know, St. Rose, or Andy or King Edward, you know, it's it, you know, Robin Troward.
And all the guys that I love that are just phenomenally amazing and proud of Edward, but we're saying that, you know, like, we all start, you know, in the beginning, you know, on a minute, it's just like, you know, Tony walked in and just start skateboarding, doing all the tricks. Yes. When he first got on a skateboard, you know what I mean?
So, I think, yeah, I think it's just like anything, the more, but I always tell kids, you know, younger musicians, and when they first started, you have any advice where, when you're, it's, you're never practicing, because you're, you know, I go, you don't practice playing video games. You just love playing, right? You know, and you're trying to get to a next level, then the next level, and you go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't believe I finally got past that.
One guy or that one thing, he kept getting me all the time, I finally figured it out. But you're loving, I mean, next thing, you know, five, six hours is gone, and you're playing, and you know, and you don't even realize, oh, my God, I've been playing for, you know, it's the same thing with music, right? Because if you love it, you shouldn't be forced to have to practice.
It's not practice. I mean, it's just you love playing, because you're, you know, you're trying to figure something out of you, you know, but first time I finally was able to play black, back in black, my guitar, you know, but I could technically do it. Did it, like played the lick over and over. It was like a major breakthrough, you know, that your fingers could do it, and you could play with the record.
And it's just like to me, I mean, it was such, those are like magical breakthrough moments, right? You know, because you could play with your favorite bands or your favorite, you know, it's like, oh, my God, it just sounds like I can play with the records, you know, and so, yeah, it's just a, it's a logical thing. So I think God, you know, like you said, learning the songs, it's just like, it's the level playing.
One of the things we like to talk about here is, you know, musician stepping into huge moments and what they feel in that moment. And I wanted to ask you, you know, that first time you got on stage with Ozzy, can you remember what went through your mind? I mean, actually, I mean, it was funny to mention that. I mean, it's just like, now it would do with the pantera celebration.
Like, the first gig I did with the boss, I remember it was in Pensacola, Florida. I would play in the arena, and it was just, you know, so I mean, I'm 20, 20 years old or whatever it was then, 2021. So it was just like, you know, so I mean, I played in clubs and, you know, the biggest things I had done was like stalled polity and stuff like that.
And I thought, but nothing, not arena level shows. I was just like, God, I remember when the lights went down, like before the Kabuki draw, they were just like, wow, this is like, this is like a, it's just mindball. And so I mean, you know, just, I think not so much the norm, just like the adrenaline, I guess, you know, like I guess if we were skydive, and you even jump out of the plane, you know what I mean?
So for the first time, you know, so, but when we did the first show in Mexico with pantera, before the Kabuki drop, there was like, I felt like I was, it was the first Aussie gig that like I'm just saying the adrenaline, right? You know, because otherwise I was just, I just always, like we did Madison Square Garden, I just go up there like, you can tell me it's a Super Bowl. It's just to me, it's another game, right?
And you can't, because you can't get overwhelmed. Otherwise, you'll just collapse. You know, if you're overwhelmed, you know, if we're at this live TV or something like that, you do it, you know, a lot of people, when they see the red, they're fine, but when they see the red light go on or just like, you tell them it's an important game or whatever, they just, it, it, mentally, you know, you collapse, or you just get nervous and that's a pose, you just, just for laying calm. You gotta become, because I never, uh,
within anything in life, I remember it was great advice for Ted Williams when he was going to hit 400. I'm just looked at him, he's like, because you know, you know, it's where it just goes. If you, if you want to hit 400, you just got to become, you know what I mean? Yeah. And just relax, like it's just another at that. Wow. You know, because otherwise you, you know, because if you miss it, you swing, you're not, you'll be under 400, right?
Because you know, Ted could have easily sat the game out, but he didn't, you know, I mean, so, but uh, but yeah, it just, you just got to become and not go work out. So I, you know, like, you just get up there and you just, I will do this at fascinating. Do you look back on your life? You look at your resume, you know, we know your talent, but even your resume as well. Does it blow your mind? You know, it's as a young man who grew up just loving heavy metal to see like where you've gone.
It's crazy. Well, no, I'm truly, you know, I make the good Lord every day, you know, I thank him in the morning, I think of the lunch, or a linear dinner brunch, you know, I love it. I like to be nice snack here before I go to bed, but uh, no, I'm truly beyond great form blast man. I think I'd have to be back. Sure. So, yeah, I'm amazing. You know, so there's an end, you know, I'm blessed, you know, we all are that we get all four of us that we get to honor Vinnie and I think.
Same thing. And I got to tell you that the tribute in the show is just beautiful. It's, it's so wonderful. I wanted to ask you about in this river, the music video, I just was curious when you showed Vinnie, if you remember his reaction to it, because when I see it, it makes sense. Yeah, we were all tiered up when, when especially Vinnie saw for the first time, I remember when we saw, like Vinnie was crying too.
So, yeah, without that, like even even when we see that I'm a screens, I mean, I want to do it once. I just got to just like you said, I just got a concentrate on doing it, you know, instead of breaking down, put out, you know, because it's, it's a obviously a huge tribute spot. You know, I'm ending as well, but I mean, it's just like it was a, this, this, this, most particularly floods is just because odd.
Like the story behind it's all like, time was like really proud of that thing when he put it together. You know what I mean? So, that's a, so especially the outro thing. So, that's a big deal with the end. So, I guess I got troped up every time I play it every night. Well, you played very well. Is that any of a very busy schedule? I just wanted to thank you so much for doing this. It means a lot. I got to get back to the dishes the whole thing. I know. I love it. I appreciate you so much.
I take care of everybody at Berserkis now. I know. And we're going to see you at Berserkis. Everybody get your tickets if you still can from Berserkis.com. And we'll see you on September 14th. I'm going to be up there for the ride for Don. Very excited. It's going to be a great time. It's going to be all great people. I'm really looking forward to it. Yeah. It's going to be on just like, God, I already have a night.
I'm going to be up there for 10, so we're having a great time out here as well. I love it. Thank you so much. Cheers. Yep.