Gals & Dolls

the fluffy dog owners, y'all know. You don't notice it until you're vacuuming it up and you're like, my god, it's everywhere, and there's so much Have I been breathing this in this whole time? Yes, Oh my god. You know, like those pictures of smoker's lungs, there's should be a fluffy dog owner's lungs, you see it. It's just a vacuum, Yes, pretty much. I feel like a human vacuum every time I take a breath in this house. It is nice to have it all yeah, tidied up? Yeah, yeah, for

the first time. And you know we're going out of town. You always want to come home to a clean house. It's the best, right And we're well, we also have a house sitter, so we don't want embarrass ourselves doing this. For you. It's like, if you ever really want to get your house cleaned, schedule a party, like host a party, and then you'll do it. You will get that ship cleaned absolutely, unless you have no second hand or like any shame. If you're no shame, then maybe you won't.

We just did that Reddit story where the guys like, come on over and his house is like filly, Yeah, I was like, I would never invite one over with my house, even in half as bad a condition as he was, like welcome in. Yeah, look how it turned out for him terribly exactly ended up on Reddit and the worst sex story of all time. I think he had not a lot of self awareness. Perhaps that's probably

true to apply to the situation. You had enough self awareness to have a whole conversation with his dick, so very self aware. Yeah, maybe maybe we'll do self aware. Uh, well, you know what, we're riding high. We're feeling good today. We got another wonderful review on Apple podcast. I'm telling y'all you can't. You can't do a kinder deed than to leave a podcaster a five star review on on on Apple Podcasts. Yeah, it really is just you want to put some good into the world. That's how you

do it. Just go through your list of podcasts and take some times we humble podcast it would have nothing to our names. But really though, it's so nice, I wanted to read this one. Um. This just came through from Kimb sixteen. Uh. Kimb says it always takes me a second to get used to new podcast hosts, and you can tell they were also getting a feel for their own style in the first couple of episodes. They even call it out in the third or fourth, which

made me laugh. Okay, can be absolutely true. Uh, first of all, anything try telling someone to watch your favorite TV show without including but you gotta get through the first season first, or you gotta get through the first few episodes and then it's so good. Of course, if you're not improving, then if you think you're already at the top of your game out the gate, then you don't have the self awareness hey to be podcasting. Quite frankly, well,

it's so funny. And I don't know if this is what we called out or not, but I remember us talking about this where it's like we're we're performers. This is gonna be no problem. And then as soon as you're in front of the microphone, it's so weird. It's like suddenly you're not can't be yourself. I don't know, like early on where it was immediately you could tell. As soon as it was like it's we're recording. Hi, I'm someone different now for some reason, I don't know why,

like it was so I don't know. It's just like an surely an anxiety thing performance anxiety. But we've tried to record just you know, because we'll just have you know, funny conversations that we think are funny. Anyway, it would be like, oh, let's let's turn on voice recorders before we had the show, uh, in the car on a road trip or something, and see what comes out. And if you know, the voice recorders on dead, it's not

even dead silence, it's just forced, you know. It's like, oh, let me try to be a version of myself and it just doesn't come out right. So it does take a minute. I'm glad kim be stuck with us, and she goes on she says, I'm so glad I stuck with this. They've got great banter. I love the insertions like Speculation Station and Poetry Corner to break up the straight story. And the stories themselves run the gamut of time periods, people, things involved, and story behind it all

definitely worth a listen. You can be so much. I mean, I don't know I'm in this to y'all, you're all are already listening, but but it's just so nice to hear. And I do hope that people see these reviews and want to give the show a listen to. Yeah, and it's nice to hear from a new new listener to just started and still it's still into it. I'm gonna getting into it. I'm gonna assume Kim B is going in order and won't get to this episode where we read their review for like six months. Oh my god,

is that what I said about the show? Can you edit these quick? I've changed my mind. Update from Kim we probably won't read that one. It goes downhill now. I hope that I again, I hope that we've improved, uh, you know, every week in this show. Because again, if you're just if you're not improving your stagnant, you're never the best. You can be. That's so true. There's no one. It's like saying, like, oh, Serena Williams the greatest tennis player of all times. So she stopped to sing like

she never did. Right. She continued to practice tennis even though she's the greatest tennis player as long as she wanted to play it, because she knows either you get better or you get worse. There's really two options here, and she didn't start at the top of her game, right, So yeah, keep improving, keep working, keep getting mad. And that's coming from me. And I'm perfect every way, so wow, but you can always get more perfect. That's one thing

I've learned. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. All right, swallowing my teeth over here. Oh, we do have a corrections corner? What? Yes? All right, everybody, we're going into corrections corner. You're such a loser, yes, because recently in an episode we were talking about race. Oh god, race, and that's not how you say it. It's fine. I knew it, quick correction, but still important. I knew it was weird. I knew it was a weird pronunciation of the spelling, and I

couldn't remember which one made the least sense. It's the one that makes the least. It's Ralph phi Ennis. How it's spelled rape fines. Thanks Ray, friend of the show, so friends show. That's why he called us. It was like, listen, great episode everything, but what the hell? Well he just started. It'll probably six months before he gets to this episode. Here's the correction. Well, I hope you liked it all right, many apologies to rape and all and all finds all

the fine family. Joseph, I feel like I don't like him for some reason. Oh what did Joseph do? And I just gotta look on his face, don't we all? That's what faces do. Well, today, we have a really fun one for y'all. These were actually two separate listener suggestions with a surprising through line. These are two different women who married dolls in the past couple of years. Dolls like just absolute dolls like wonderful people tweet angels. No,

I'm talking about legit dolls fabricated by pole. But they don't walk on their own unless something real weirds going on. Plastic and fabric dolls, right, exactly exactly. But we found a story about an American woman who had a surprising reaction to her marriage to a Halloween zombie doll and a woman in Brazil who found true love with a rag doll and maybe even had a child. Okay, yep, this sounds like a ridiculous romance. So let's get rollands

do it. Hey they're French, come listen. Well, Elia and Diana got some stories to tell. There's no matchmaking, a romantic tips. It's just about pridiculous relationship. I love. It might be any type of person at all, and abstract cons a a concrete wall. But if there's a story, were a second glance, ridiculous rolevance, a production of I Heart Radio. Alright, so our first story was suggested by Sheila Herrera on Instagram. Thank you, she Thank you, Sheila.

We love suggestions, keep them coming, fantastic and we've talked with Sheila before and they have suggested several things in the past. Sheila is awesome. Thank you, Sheila. Maravoni. Rocha Morayes is thirty seven years old and living in Brazil. A little over a year ago, she has like complaining to her mother that she never had a partner to go dancing with. She'd liked to go dancing. Traditional Brazilian photo dancing. Yeah, and in Brazil, I'm sure people would

go dance all the time. Oh my god, I would love I would love to go dancing, even though I would totally embarrassing. It would be embarrassing, I would make I would enjoy it. There's that event in Atlanta that our a Bolivian friend took us to called Chola Techa, and it's just all like South American dancing, basically South and Central American. Whatever. My god, it was such a cool night and I was like, let me just wall

flower this because I do not belong on that dance floor. Well, what was so funny is that I'm like, I'm a type of person who's like, I don't really care if I like stupid. I just like to dance. I think dancing is so good for you, it really, and like there's science about there that it's good for not only your body because you move your body right right, but it's also good for your brain and your soul. Like

literally it helps depression. I mean, you should dance every day, even if it's not anything to look at or any TikTok that you would want to teach anyone. So I'm just like, what Ralph layl around. I don't care. But the problem is our Bolivian friends is also a professional dancer. So she's like, yeah, girl, let's go dance. And then she's out here looking like a freaking star. So you think you can dance. I was like, I can't flail next to this. I have to play all next to

another flailer otherwise this doesn't work. Oh my god, it was. It was an awesome nights. It was so funny. Go to Lachiliteca if you get a chance, if you live in Atlanta, it's a lot of fun. So anyway, Uh, Maritavone is a lot like me. She likes to flail around. She's probably much better dancer than myself. And she's like, man, I just never have a partner to go dancing with, and that's what I like to do. So her mom,

good mom. She's like, let me solve this problem for you, and she made her a life sized rag doll named Marcello to cheer her up. And Marcello kind of looks a lot like a giant raggedy andy uh sort of, so he's very like flat face to you know what I mean, Like he's stuffed, but he's not he doesn't have any features. They're like felts. It looks like, um, he's got curly brown hair and big blue eyes, pure white skin. Like she didn't try to make this look very human, you know what I mean? Um, he also

has an impressive mustache, fun detail. Um and instead of feet, which I thought was kind of funny because they looked like and no feet at all, And I was like, that's weird for somebody who asked specifically for a dancing partner. But it looks like there's some kind of stirrup going on so that Mirrazone can like strap him to her feet and they can and his legs will move. See if I had stirrups since set of feet, you could take me dance dancing. Finally, Yeah, amazing. Maybe I'll get

that taken care of and sleep. Oh wait a minute, will be the first surgery I've done. And you're saying, oh my god, y'all please check in on me in a week. Well okay, so probably surprisingly for Miravone's mother. As soon as miravon I saw Marcello, it was love at first sight. Miravone told me to know dot com quote. He is the man I always wanted in my life, which is setting both a low and a high bar. I feel like you're like, on one hand, like this is all I need is just a stuffed pile of

rags to go dancing with. That's all I ever needed. And also I don't need your opinions. I don't need your inputs. I don't need to have to feed you asking me. Damn shit, I get it, I get it. It's the perfect man. So they started like seeing each other right away, and several months later, myravone found out she was pregnant. She said, quote, it's true, Marcelo got me pregnant. He didn't take care of himself, and he didn't use a condom. He got me pregnant. I took

the test. It was positive. I couldn't believe it. You're having a hard time believing it myself. So does he have like like a rag dick? I don't think the mom included that unusual thing to include. I will throw out here though, that I do have an old cabbage patch shawl of my mom. And he has a little little peanuts, like a little about the size of my pinkie, and it's just a little dick. And I remember as a kid being like I hated this doll. I was like,

what the fuck? That is so crazy? Because I had another more modern cabbage patch boy doll and he'd have a dick. I was like, what's wrong with this doll? And I would like freaking a lot. I was just always so confused by this doll. And I don't know why they stopped. I guess I do know why they stopped tennacles on these, but why did they ever start? Who was like, listen, this is a boy doll, and

he needs a dick in those pants. Like it was like I need to make sure, like there's something to the fact that, like kids can handle anatomy and we should be teaching children about anatomy and stuff like you don't like you don't need to hide it be puritanical and all this stuff, but also like super unnest serry, like there's a lot about a doll that is not anatomically correct. Besides, it's genitalia, so why are we starting there.

She also gave me her same era lady you know, female cabbage patch doll, and there's no like slit down there something weird. It's just like, what was the you really this boy doll just really had to have one some I felt real strongly about it. I don't know. Oh wow, I wonder if it was like an aftermarket edition or something. Oh my god, did you get it in their store or anything like that. I don't know.

I should ask her. Trying to do a follow up if there's anything interesting, more than likely should be like, I don't remember. Okay, So I wanted to say. We have talked in several episodes on this show about objective sexuality, where people fall in love with items, objects, dolls, holograms, structures, ours,

all kinds of ship like that. Now, by and large, those people that we've talked about in the past, I have just like, you know, I surprised myself with how accepting I was of a lot of these topics that we've looked into, especially after hearing some of their interviews.

And one thing that a lot of these people have said emphatically, it's like, I know that I'm married a wall and that's different than marrying a human, and I can't legally marry them, and we have our own version of sex, but it's not you know, I'm not gonna have a little wall baby and stuff like that. So this story to me already is almost a totally different category than a lot of the O S I stuff we've done in the past. Um, and it starts right here, right,

I had similar thoughts. Yeah, So Maravone says that she's pregnant with the dollar Marcella's baby, and they don't want to have their baby out of wedlock because of course, you know that would be weird, that would be crossing the line, across the line too far, guys. So in December of one they got married in a ceremony attended by two d and fifty people. Because, as we've said, with some of our more ridiculous weddings in the past,

who would not go to this? Get me? I would absolutely go to this, We absolutely, Maravone says, quote the wedding was a wonderful day for me, very important, very emotional. It rained a lot, but it was wonderful. From the moment I walked down the aisle to the end. It was just beautiful. Then went to the wedding night with my husband Marcello, and we enjoyed our wedding night a lot. Maybe he does have a little to work with ye Hey, she like pulls out her vibrator. I mean, I don't know,

get an addition or who knows? You know, what is happening in reality and what's happening in our own personal version of reality don't always line up. My question is it's hard enough sometimes to have a mother in law. What if your mother and a regular listener of the show, So go on. I have said several times I'm very lucky in my mother law. I just know that several people, many many people highly dislike their mothers or at least have a hard time getting along with him for whatever reason.

And I had to wonder, what must it be like if your mother in law is also your creator? Like your mother in law is like your god. She's like, I gave you life and I can take it away. Like what do you? I mean, if Marcello could talk, what would he say? I brought you both into this world. She could say this couple, which is very true. Some ways they have the same mother. Oh my god, there's like an incestuous dollar relationship. Oh my god. I'm sure

Miravone would not appreciate. She might not appreciate a lot of this. But again, I have a certain level of respect for anyone with o s I um, this one. Well, it goes on. So their honeymoon was a week long trip to Rio de Janeiro lovely, and over the next few months they waited excitedly for their child to arrive. Maravone did gain about around twenty pounds during this time. She was gaining weight from her pregnancy. Right, there's some

physical results, Okay. Can I say that if I was if I had a week in Rio de jan Arrow, I would almost definitely gain twenty pounds too. It wouldn't be no babyweight. How many people in the first year of marriage gained two because they're like, I'm married now I feel comfortable. Well. On May, she and Marcella welcomed their child, Marcellino uh And in a home birth at her house. There was a doctor and nurse on site. Okay. She streamed the whole thing live on her Instagram to

an audience of about two people. Again, I would never tune into a live stream of a child birth, but I would absolutely tune into this. I gotta understand she's at Miravone underscores sent Tina if you're interested. She says she gave birth in thirty five minutes, a nice and fast quote. I didn't feel the contractions in pain. Seeing the placenta and the umbilical cord and the blood made it all real. Now, this is a doll baby, Okay, it's a doll. It looks avorite his father favorite is

father really his father? Take that for his father? It is a doll baby. It looks exactly like Marcello, but smaller and no mustache. You have your father's hair. Literally, it was cut from the same school of yarn. Yeah, they really cut from the same So I'm like, Okay, did the mom need thirty five minutes to put this doll together? Did she also make blood like a fabric blood and coming out? How much is this delusion? I mean, I don't want to say a delusion, right, but how

much is she being fantasy? Maybe? I guess, yeah, fantasy is a better word. How much is this fantasy being indulged with because stuff? Or did she have a miscarried like I did? Was she actually pregnant and some real blood was coming out? Like I really need to understand

where the blood placenta thing is coming from. I can't decide if this is you know, again, I'm always looking for the benefit of the doubts and trying to keep an open mind on these things, and it's it is possible that it is a bit of a del Usian that she's seeing things that aren't really there or experiencing things that aren't really happening, or that she is just like really committed to the bit, you know, and not in a way that it's like a bit like this

is some silly thing I'm doing, but like, look, this is how I decided to live my life. And I'm not flinching. I'm going all in if I can respect me again as like, as we've said many many times, if it's not hurting anybody, yeah I do. I can nuts have fun with Marcello, go dancing all you want. It's not doing a ship for me or whatever. I think the difference between some of the stories we've done in the past and and this one maybe is like I don't I don't really have a problem kind of

laughing along with this one. But I think anybody like you know, going out of their way to be mean to someone like this, it's just unnecessary, you know. Like, again, it's not hurting nobody. If she wants to live her whole life thinking you know, she's got a whole doll family, then go crazy, you know, why not not go crazy? We don't use that word here, have a great time. Yes, she's like daffy ducks all over the room. Okay, so now it's all one big, happy family, right. Miravone told

jam Press quote married life with him is wonderful. He doesn't fight with me, he doesn't argue, and he just understands me. We've heard that before from people who have married dolls and objects. She goes on, Marcelo is a great and faithful husband. He is such a man, and all women envy him. I question that women. Some women, maybe some women perhaps are like, yeah, wow, I'd love it if I get so my husband's mouth strategy or whatever.

But I don't know if they're like, yeah, I wish I could like just get me a doll husband and my own. I don't know if there's that many women who want want that. But what do I know. I'll say this, I envy Marcello a little bit. What a lifestyle. You know, he's literally just gotta lay around until she needs something. But Marcella is not perfect. No one's perfect

except for Elia. Nobody's perfect but me. The only problem with Marcello is that quote, he's lazy, he doesn't work at all, but I am a warrior, she says, and I keep it going for us. Now, Miravone cleans houses. But according to her Instagram, she's also quote a speaker, influencer in my city, maestro pedagogue and mother who raised her two children alone with a lot of sweat. Now it's unclear if she had two children before Marcellino, or if she's including Marcelina as one of her two children,

which what a dead beat dad Marcello is. If she's like, I'm raising this kid alone, this lazy bones, lazy no bones over here, no bones doesn't even have the uh so yeah, So we don't know if there's like, uh, corporeal child and adult child or two doll children or two human kids and adult child children. There's only one adult children child. But I don't know if she also two corporeal children as you say, flesh and blood, or if she just has the one and she's saying counting

Marcelina's her second child. I don't know. For some reason, the kids didn't come forward. It might be on her Instagram somewhere, but one of those in twenty years, the kids are going to tell their side of the story, like my life as a dollar brother. She told dam Press that she gets really mad when people tell her her family is fake. Same same Also, I hate that. That's so rude. She's this quote. It makes me so angry.

I am a woman of character. My father, my mother taught me to be honest, to be a good person, and not want to take advantage of anything. Okay, okay, okay. Rest But she also has several posts on her Instagram where she says, quote, I had the idea of us getting married so I could show up to as many people as possible in order to win a house, reaching a lot of people, so that this news reaches some TV presenter or someone with a good heart who can help me realize this dream of owning a house. Okay,

now wait a second, now this again. This is not included in any news articles. This is just when you're scrolling through Instagram. Some of the captions. She's like, let me say, my story concludes this information, so it's very open. She's open with this, and yeah, but doesn't that kind of undermine it a lot? But she's like literally, she's like, my family is not fake, but I faked it, so I can win a house, like, I don't know. I

can't stand it when people say I'm lying. All I did was make up this whole thing so I could win a house, Like, I don't is there I'm assuming she's Brazilian. I'm assuming this is Portuguese. I mean, there's

a translation thing. I hope they're saying. I was like, maybe she's like I you know, I was in love with this doll, and I thought, oh, a good you know, think a good publicity thing would be to marry him in a big ceremony and then people would would see us and maybe kind of interesting enough to put me on a reality show or something, and then I could get a house. Fine, you know, if if there's really a love connection, I guess um, but I don't know.

It's just so funny to have her go through the whole thing and be like it's not fake, there's a real placenta and all this stuff, and then be like it was all just to get a house. I am so very fascinated with this one, and I like that we found something that's very different from our other O S I stories so far, you know, because it's just like, Okay, now, what angle do I approach this with in my brain right because I'm working at it and I'm not sure exactly where I land. I think two things that I

think specifically. One, Marcello does not have a central nervous system. This is not a conscious being. Um. But I accept that she loves him and that he fulfills her in some way that she feels like a human person couldn't. And I wish them nothing but the happiest life together. Yeah that's all I got. And even if I mean, I will admit to being like, well, what the funk when I first saw it? And I was like, I guess,

why do I care? Like people do all kinds of dumb ship to get on reality TV, seriously get something, some attention and even no, no bigger goal than that. Just the attention is the goal. So why do I care if she's just like, yeah, I'll marry this doll to try and get me a house for me and my two kids. I mean, do we not live in a world that actively rewards that kind of behavior? So why would be be surprised when people start doing it?

Very true? So I don't know if I don't know if the dull relationship is the bit or if the marriage was the bit, or if the pregnancy was the bit,

and she was like, it's real, it's real. I would die to see that live stream because what we're live streaming, like strategically you can't see what's going on, right, and the mom pops up, I don't know, look over the doctor's shoulder to get the or it's a boy, you know, Oh my good, look at his little cloth dick, flick it with your No, just kidding, don't flick any dicks. No flicking dicks today, guys, make yourself a promise. I

will not flick a dick today. We're going to get all these listener males people being like, uh, my wife listened to your show and then just started flicking my dick. What the hell? We specifically said not to do that. All right, well, thank you again. She'll ever style. Yeah, he was having a good time with this. Let's take a quick break and we're going to come back to our second doll marriage story right after this. Welcome back, everybody. Okay, So this story was suggested to us by Sean pops

Henderson at Oh What a U Semi on Instagram. Thank you Sean for this one. Oh it's a good one, okay. Felicity cad Leck. When she was a kid, she was obsessed with horror movies and zombies. Lots of kids totally now. When she was thirteen, she found this zombie doll on a creepy doll collection website and her father bought it for The doll's name is Kelly Rossi. She is thirty

seven years old. The doll she's about four ft tall, with brown hair, a bloody zombiefied face, and no lower jaw right, she says, like teeth and a tongue like dangling out like somebody ripped the mouth off a zombie. Yeah, we've all seen it. Very well made. I will say it's very gross doll. No offense to Kelly. One of our one of our good friends. Lauren was a regular featured extra on The Walking Dead for many years, and

she's got you. If you watched the show and you saw a picture of over in zombie makeup, you would recognize her because they put her on all the time. And she's got this like framed picture of herself in their house that somebody got for her. It's this beautiful shot of her jaw like hanging off as she's walking through a field all zombie like creatures, disgusting. The creature

makeup is so good, so good, so good. Alright, So Kelly Rossie no jaw zombie doll and Felicity told Metro UK quote, it wasn't until I was sixteen years old but I started to get feelings for her. But it was something that I kept trying to deny. But after Felicity's father died, she said, quote, I found myself becoming closer and finding comfort in Kelly, as she was someone that he had bought for me. I finally allowed myself to be open with who I was and let my

feelings come out. And despite not everyone agreeing with my love life, I have never felt happier. This sounds more like our usual quote unquote usual o s I stories where she's really feeling a presence, a spirit, some kind of connection, whereas I don't. Again, could be a translation thing Ravone, but she didn't speak to that at all. She was just like Marcello seems to have a personality and kind to her, so maybe she does have that,

but this one she's very clear about it. Yeah, and what I recognized you from other's stories here is the struggle that she went through right and saying this is why do I feel like this? This is weird, this is crazy, I shouldn't do this, and eventually saying no, this, this is important to and it makes me happy. So who am I to deny that to myself? You know, a tremendous amount of respect for that. Yeah, whatever it is, well,

not whatever it is, but something harmless like this. I've never been happier is when I'm hold on throwing people out of helicopters. No, no, you can't do that. Wait wait, wait, we are That's my love language. She can't deny you that. No parachute toss and folks plane No. So Felicity decided that she and Kelly should get married in September. She told Metro UK quote, that's the same month as our birthdays, so I knew it would be extra special. Kelly was

the groom, Felicity says. Kelly is a bit of a tomboy, so she wore a suit and felt more like the groom to her, I felt more comfortable as the groom and so Felicity were traditional long white dress, beautiful lots of grooms missing their lower jaws. To you know, it makes sense to me. I almost left mine out for our wed We left it in the jar. But yeah, yeah, uh.

Their wedding was in Rhode Island. Four humans and eight dolls attended, and Felicity says quote, our wedding ceremony was beautiful and perfect, exactly the way I dreamed it would have been. I made sure that the whole wedding was done properly so it would be as official as possible, and we consummated the marriage afterwards. I caressed her and feel safe with her, and I feel a genuine connection

when I'm having an intimate moment with her. Also, I want to throw back to the previous story with Miravone, the contrast here in the presentation of their marriage, because like she did it with like four people and eight dolls,

was like two d and fifty people. And then I'm broadcasting my birth on Instagram and stuff like that, and again not necessarily, you know, I'm a little bit in speculation station here, kind of being a little throwing out a little judgment, But it does feel this feels a little more earnest and like this is about me and my intimates and my intimacy with something someone I care

about versus like, get a load of this. I'm going to get a bunch of attention to see if I can buy a house right, which I mean totally might be. I will throw out there that Felicity does talk on her YouTube channel about having a hard time with people. She she does fall out with people a lot, so she may just not have had that many human friends to attend and miravone does. That's or a bigger family or something, um, because I think Felicity also doesn't have

a lot of close family, so that could be it too. Um. Just to give me a bone the benefit of the um, but yeah, Felicity also told Metro Uk to your point quote, Kelly's spirit and personality traits made me know that she was the one for me and that I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. To me, she is perfect and I can feel that she loved me very deeply, and I can sense her happiness since we have married. Just seeing her at the altar when I walked down the aisle was amazing and to me,

she looked beautiful. Getting married to her has made me feel so much closer to her, both emotionally and intimately. Now. Felicity took Kelly's last name Rossi, and she now lives in Vanita, Oklahoma, and according to her YouTube channel, which is Dolly Girl twenty, she has a big, happy family with Kelly. They have several children from six to ten years old, all like zombie horror like dolls. We've got Holly, Molly, Billy, Luna, and Rachel, as well as a three year old green

goblin doll called Gremley or Graham Graham. Um. We can assume that she didn't have like a birth birthing ceremony for these dolls. She does unboxing videos. Actually she's she's

very clear. This reminds me a lot more of like Akihiko and Hatsunimiku, who we did a story about the hologram that he fell in love with married and he had a doll that sort of represented her physically with him, and he was very pragmatic about like, this is a doll, and I'm in love with this doll, and I you know, and I got a replacement doll for her, you know, like her. Yeah, she seems very clear on the doll part, like she's not confused. She knows they come in a box.

She unboxes them and I think, you know, I watched the unboxing for grim Lee actually, and she was just very like it was just very pure excitement. She was really excited. She likes so sweet. He's really cuddly and soft, and I, you know, I'm so excited. Um. So, yeah, I think she's very clearer on what what this is. She just also has the ability to feel whatever spirit

within that doll. My question is does she feel a spirit and every doll or is it you know, it just doesn't respond to some of them, or is it these specifically these horror calls that give her that kind of connection. I don't know, but Kelly Rossie might not quite be enough to fulfill Felicity because she's got someone else. And that brings us to this episode side. Okay, so Felicity has a boyfriend as well, uh, not a regular human boyfriend. This guy is named Robert and he is

also a doll. But Robert has like an alien face, alien dollar. Right, so you know we're sort of in that parallel genre to horror now and trying to to sci fi zon. Yeah, those two crossover a lot. Now. We're not sure if Kelly the zombie doll and Robert the alien doll also have a relationship going. If there's a whole threesome here, or if it's lie you know, if Felicity just has one partner and another partner separately, is this the harem? Or are we dolly amorous? Dolly amorous?

Oh my god, dolly marriage. I mean she's not married to Robert, to be fair, okay, okay, oh yeah, this is like a Dolly fuel stocky. Oh my god. The shape that their relationship forms is a Dolly. Oh my god. Okay. So in another video, Felicity does mention a recent breakup with a human man, so she's still dating people as well. She also recently got a new silicon body for Kelly so that Kelly would be a little taller, closer to

Felicity's own height of about five ft. She even did a video about She even did a video about Miravone when she heard about her to tell her quote, you do you girl? Because people are always going to talk. Yeah, she had kind of a longer rant um saying what we've usually said, because if it doesn't affect you, then what do you care. I'm not harming anyone. I'm not crazy. I know they're dolls, So what do you care? And

people are always going to talk. Some people are gonna sit down in front of two microphones and talk for a whole damn hour about your whole life, like some kind of idiots, like some kind of asshole. Yeah remember these jerks. But wait a minute, what Sorry, I just realized I was looking in to a mirror. Oh no. Felicity points out that her own psychiatrists says, quote, if you're aware they're inanimate physically, then it's not a delusion.

And Felicity insists that her dolls reciprocate the spiritual connection that she feels with them, and she likens it to how people can feel connected to a god even though they can't see or feel it. Also very common similar sort of statements made by other os I people. We've heard it's like there is a reciprocal feeling here, Like when people talk about breaking up with their objects. They're like, you can just tell the connection is not there anymore.

It's either there there isn't. And I want to say, we heard someone say that exact thing before, Like people have a whole relationship with a spiritual being that they can't see or feel or touch, and I think that's weird that I'm Yeah, but if that relationship is still very real, important and if anyone told you it was fake, you'd be upset. So I think, let me bang my car.

So but even though Felicity, of course, was expecting some people to dislike her lifestyle choices or pity her, call her crazy or whatever you know you expect from social media, she was not ready for what actually came next. So let's find out more about that right after we take

a quick reach. Welcome back to the show. Dolly's Okay. So, the news about Felicity, Mary and Kelly made headlines in February twenty nineteen, and of course she, you know, she got some pushback on that, some comments about her being sick or weird or whatever, things just to get her some help. And right, this wasn't anything Felicity couldn't handle until she started receiving a lot of hate messages accusing her of not marrying a zombie doll, but actually marrying

a dead child. Excuse me, they thought Kelly was a dead, deceased person of minor age. I got a lot to say, but go on, okay, and people were not just reaching out to her directly. They were actually calling the cops on she says, and so she told Metro UK in a follow up interview in April nineteen, quote, even when I was telling people that she's just a doll, people were not believing me. I'm sick of people thinking that Kelly is a child and insinuating that I like children.

So I knew I had to get this clarified to put an end to these claims. So Felicity went to the police herself and had then verified that Kelly is in fact just a doll. She says, quote, although she is just a doll, I believe that the energy Kelly has is that of an adult, and that's what I love about her. Kelly was created as a Halloween doll and wasn't created have any likeness to a child. She's

just a zombie. Now, after the police presumably did a thorough check, we assume, um, Felicity Sugar, what did they do? Felicity took a picture with Kelly alongside a cop holding a sign stating quote, Venita police checked it out. It's just a doll. Now that it's been cleared up, she's excited to get back to, you know, the good part of her life. She says, quote, ever since people have called me a pedophile, I had a hard time being

affectionate with Kelly. But now that it's been confirmed, I want to be able to move on and enjoy our relationship and marriage. I have so much, So let me start with this. I think, okay, I think I don't believe this. I think I've decided I don't believe this really happened because a I saw this doll. Right, it's a cartoony looking doll. Like it doesn't look like a decomposing corpse, right, it is not. No one would mistake

this for a real dead body. John missing it in her wedding photos, she gives it, you know, like you do you kiss the bride. Right here, she's fully kissing it. If that is a decomposing body that far into decomposition, first of all, he had just lifted up, she would fall a fall apart. Disgusting. Think about and you put it that close to your face? No, no, well, I mean not that no one would. Of course, that's the accusations that were being she says, that were being made.

But think of I want to say, um, Carl Tonsler, who like had to mummify his his bride. That hard buying story from last October. Um, yeah, you can't just carry you a rotting corpse around without doing something to do it. And this is just not there's just nothing about it is mistakable for real person. So I imagine she shows up at the police station, you know, and it's like, I need you guys to verify that this isn't a real body, and they're just like, okay, I'm

looking at it. It's not a real body. Thanks. Let me put this murder case down, start dealing with this. And you know, she's like, oh, come take a picture of me, and somebody was like okay, I'll do it. You know. The other cops are like, Robert, you you go to picture now. I don't know where this photo was allegedly posted. Did not share that in fob it. I did both of her. I g and did not

see her with cops or signs. I did see some screenshots of people saying not that not that the doll was actually a dead child, but that she had deliberately chosen a short childlike doll because she has h you know, I had to feel like tendencies and maybe doesn't want to act on it. So good for you for getting a doll, I guess, but you're still really sick and you need help. And she's like, that's not what's happening.

And in fact, part of the reason she got the new silicone body for Kelly was, I guess after these accusations, she went ahead and aged her up, so she gave her an older face and she got her breasts. She would look more like an adult, I mean. And that's why I would push back against those accusations, because also she got this doll, and she was what that doll aged with her in her mind exactly what she did, yea, And she said, and as the thirteen year old of chrise,

I'm gonna pick a doll. Course, of course it'd be weirder if it was a yeah, grown doll. So when she started developing feelings for it between the ages of thirteen sixteen, it made sense that it looked like this. And I think it was kind of modeled after a younger person, zombie like, because little girl zombies are creepy, so they make they make that an image for sure, But I do not think this is indicative of pedophilia. In my expert psychological opinion of course, um, talkor banks

is in but that's not the impression I'm getting. But I do think that this has been inflated. Um again, I got I got nothing, but I don't know if the words respect. But I got nothing but tolerance for difference how she wants to live her life. Um. But I'm a little skeptical that people were saying this was a real dead child. Yeah. I also find it funny that all of the pushback is about the child part

and not the dead part. Yeah, Glad, I feel like, first of all, not only are you accusing me of being a pedophile, but you're also accusing me of being a necrophiliac. Those are two very crazy things that I am not, thank you very much. And quite frankly, if someone were a necrophiliac and a pedophile and they got themselves a doll and it kept them out of society and happy with that doll, great, that's probably the best thing you could do. But please enjoy your Halloween doll

pretty please. Wow. Um, I don't know what else to say about felicity, but get similarly, I don't go for it, don't. Yeah, I mean you can follow her. She she's got Her Instagram is at doll Girl one. Her YouTube is dolly Girl twenty. She's she's very she posts a lot, so you'll see all of her kids. You'll see she'll talk a lot about things people say or why she does what she does and stuff like that. And you know, if you're if you're curious, you can hear it from

her own mouth. Right. Um. I don't think she's got an easy life, you know, she's not, certainly not a person who seems to be like out here with a bunch of friends running around a lot and very a lot of stability. I don't think she's she's experienced a lot of stability in her life either. And she's still pretty young. She's only twenty three still, so you know, she's got a lot of living left to do. So we'll see, maybe we'll get a get a follow up on her. One day, we'll be able to find out

season ten, season ten two, we'll come back. I I mean again, I'm fascinated. I'm like, go for it, enjoy yourself. And I don't deny their feelings because they clearly how can you they feel really strongly, And I don't know, like we we say things like this is wrong or this is unnatural. And I'm like, look up from your phone right now and turn your head to the left and right and tell me what in your life is natural. This is chaos. We are living in the bonkers town,

Like nothing makes sense, no what is normal? The fact that you have pants on right now is totally weird and unnatural. So uh so come on, like, don't don't be coming at people like you know what's right and wrong and natural and unnatural. It's amazing that our brains are holding onto reality at all right now, So go go wild and enjoy yourself. You That's I guess that's where I get to where I'm like, I can. I certainly had a knee jerk, like what wrong with you?

You know what I mean? But again, you you're seeing all these screenshots of comments and things that people are saying to her and or to mirabone Ams, and they're so cruel and unnecessarily mean, and a lot of it just seems to be coming from a place of like I just I can't stand to see you doing that, even though it's not touching me or affecting me. I

have to control you and get you to stop. And it's just it's just coming from a place of control so much space judgment is just like I can't allow you to be running around doing that, you know, again, has no bearing on the world whatsoever. There's something there's something in that where it's like I think control, like

you said, is a big part of it. People just feel I need that, Like if things are happening that I find strange, then like I was saying, the world doesn't the world starts to make less sense to me, and I need to rope that in and make sure the world follows this line, because if it's straight from that, then I don't know what I'm doing right. Um. So there's this like deep sense of control that we all kind of meet um and other people can throw off

very easily. And then there's the Internet side of it too, which is like not only this kind of bully nature, which so much of bullying is about, um getting approval from other people who like your bullying, you know who might be like, yeah, you said that to her, Good for you. I'm gonna like your comment, you know, nasty poster.

I'm going to agree with it, or I'm even just gonna sit here and nod my head and say yes, she is crazy, you know, like so much of that comes from the anonymity of the Internet and people themselves looking for attention. Sure, you know well, and think about that knee jerk. I had it. It just did not make me reach from a keyboard. You'd be like, what the fuck like type some ship um, which is thankfully not an impulse I have. Oh my god, I'm not gonna type to you if I don't have to. You

don't have to. You do not don't have to. I today would I got on Twitter this morning and something made me so angry and I just wanted to say something, and I just blocked the person and I was just like, I don't need this in my life. I don't. I don't. What am I going to accomplish by making this person? First of all, I would not make that person feel like shit. I would just egg them on further and uh and then and then what then? I would just

be thinking about it all. I'd get into a conversation back and forth or whatever, or a bunch of people who thought just like me would would like my tweet like cool, great, what a life It adding so much my life experience. Just you don't have to say anything except um on Apple Podcasts in the review section about our show, you've got to say five stars and then write something lovely. No, but yeah, that's what I mean. I think the knee jerk is people just go sick.

You're fucked up, you know. But if you let it sit for a second, you probably really won't care. You don't care, or you you just step away from the video and I likely something more important will supplant Felli see in your brain and you will no longer remember about her weird thing. I promise you're not contributing to humanity's net positive experience by throwing shade at these people sucking their dolls. Right. So funny to see how how personally invested people were in the story of just Oh,

I can't believe what I'm saying. You know, it's like the hysteria, And I was like, are you afraid this is going to be normalized and a bunch of people are going to be marrion dolls right and left and a total breakdown of society. I don't think so. I'm also people are outliers for a reason. Also, so what I'm sorry is society doing so well that you'd hate for intimate that a breakdown could happen. Come on, look all the best Tameravone, Marcelo Marcellino and to Felicity and Kelly,

Robert and their whole family. I just you know, nothing but the best for y'all. Thanks for the subject, and thank you for the suggestions, Sheila and John. Yeah, these were really fun to listen to. It was. It was interesting as a different type of research, having to like scroll through people social media's and stuff, but it was still really fascinating to get a bigger picture. Let us

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