¶ Higher Education and Residence Life Insights
Welcome everybody to another episode of the Ride Home Rants podcast . This is , as always , your host , mike Bono . I have a great guest for us today , but before I get into that , I do need to mention we did land another new sponsor for the show Ohio's Own Buddy's Beard Care from my good friend and comedian Buddy Holly .
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You'll save yourself 15% off of that . That being said , my guest today . He's got a lot . He's in higher education . We're going to talk about all that . Alexander Doyle joins the show . Alexander , thanks for joining man , no problem . Thanks for having me Appreciate it , not a problem .
So you know , tell everyone you know a little bit about yourself , where you're from , where'd you grow up , you know high schools , all that kind of fun stuff , and we'll go from there .
Yeah , I went to high school at Lutheran East Mayfield there , grew up in the Cleveland area around St Clair . After that I went to Fisk University in Tennessee where I got my bachelor's and master's and I work in residence life and higher education , so I've been around a couple of states .
After that I was at Notre Dame College for three years and then we found out a couple months ago that this would be the last semester they would have classes . So you know that journey trying to find employment after that was interesting . But now I'm currently at Kentucky State University , just one state down from the great state of Ohio .
So I can always go up there and see some family friends in Cleveland , not too far away . But that's currently where I'm at right now .
Yeah , we're going to get into the whole Notre Dame situation here a little bit later , but I believe you have both a bachelor's and a master's degree . Where did you get those both ? We said in Tennessee , or where did you get your degrees in and what are they in ?
Yeah , I got them at Fisk University , hbcu in Nashville , tennessee .
They are in general psychology so I pretty much use that in the higher education field with working with adolescents and 18 and 22 year olds and residents life , just really helping from the behavior aspect of what they're doing , coming from their home , away from home , making sure that we can provide them the best customer service , but letting them know that you
know the environment is different from where you're from . You know when you have roommates you may not be comfortable with them trying to learn how to analyze each other . Sometimes you have people from California , new York , in the first space .
You know being roommates with each other and so you know I pretty much use my degree like how can we make this environment better ? How can you learn from the other person and from their attributes and what represents them so you can learn a little bit more about your roommate on a daily basis ?
Yeah , I got to tell you somebody who my first semester got just paired up with somebody in college didn't know him , you know , come from different states . There was a little bit of you know a learning process about that person and you know two completely different backgrounds . I was an athlete , I was a swimmer , so I wasn't around a lot .
I guess I was always at the rec center facility , you know , training , whatnot . Uh , and he was and I hate to use this term but I don't know how else to explain it but he was , he was the band nerd and the band geek and you know the musician and everything like that . So , having those worlds collide , I , I mean , we still communicate to this day .
Uh , and this , uh , oh , hell , almost uh , 10 years later , a little over 10 years later , we still communicate to this day . And you know , we , we grew a friendship . But , making that easier , I wish we had something like that at , uh , at my campus , because it would have been easier to know that , hey , we actually had a lot in common .
Yeah , yeah , we try to improve our matchmaking process with like , like on the application . Like , do you like to get up early , do you like to study late , do you like to listen to music ? So we try to have those attributes on the application , try to match up the best qualities and qualifications that someone may share with anybody else .
So we want to try to make the process a little smoother . Let's talk technology advances this day and age .
Yeah , I wish they had those when I was in college ages ago . But yeah , it would have made the process a little easier . But you know . So is that exactly what you do for work right now at your current job , you know , in higher education ? Is that kind of your day-to-day kind of role right now , or , you know , is there other aspects that go into it ?
There's a little more aspects of it .
I am the associate director of housing and resident life , so I supervise the resident directors who are over a building where the residents live in , um , so just making sure that on a day-to-day basis that they're doing like their room checks , they're making sure that any documentation process is going to our uh tribunal council for , like , if any residents have any
infractions , like if they break any rules or policies . So we're just basically just trying to make the environment better for every resident and , of course , I always tell my staff that there's more residents than me . So pretty much every
¶ Residence Life Impact and Closure
day you want to wake up to some type of uh situation or some type of uh something that needs attention with the residents . So that's why I have my staff there , um , who are a couple more actually alumni of the college , so they know the ins and outs . So it really helps my job more effectively and better for them as well .
Yeah . So what made you want to get into that role with the college and being in Residence Life ? Because I did a little bit of work , study when I was there and helped out in the Residence Life area and I and I gotta tell you it really wasn't for me . But so what made you want to get into that role ?
yeah , um , in my sophomore year in college , um , I seen that there were student workers who were called residence citizens and they were really helping out residents , uh , to be more comfortable inside their resident hall . So that was something that I wanted to apply for .
I didn't get it the first year I applied , but then the next year someone called me up and was asking if I was interested for it . I said , sure , you know , this is something I want to do .
So ever since I was doing that , I really kind of stayed in the field where I could just really like help back and give the residents in the halls like a more home away from home , feel that I could make their experience better than what they came in .
So I always tell my staff that you know each resident , we want to make sure that when it comes to freshmen , we want them to leave different when they leave . As a senior , you know you never want to come in the same place as you are , same place as you are .
You always want to take some learning aspect , some different type of this or that with you so you can make yourself better in a profession that you want to do . So really just putting myself out there and just really helping the residents be more comfortable and providing them the customer service when they're at a university , outside of the classroom .
Yeah , I know , I relate , you know , the little bit of time that I spent , you know , helping out in residence life , uh , uh , to what I do now , and I'm a standup comedian , you know , and kind of like what you said .
You know , you , you , you gotta know your audience , I guess , for , for sake of a better term , for you it's the residence , for me it's it's a room full of strangers that are , you know , I'm trying to make laugh and , you know , be comfortable in the space because there's all different types of people with all different types of backgrounds and you've got to
bring them together for however long the show is , you know , and it's , it's rewarding at the end of the day . I um , I'm working with the company . I'll give them a shameless plug on here right now , slapstickapstick Comedy out of Columbus , ohio , and they're working to put together a prison tour . We're going to be going in and performing for the inmates .
I've done this already this year and it was by far the best show I've done in my 12 years of doing comedy . And you see , these inmates and people think you know you're performing for criminals . No , they're still .
People think you know you're performing for criminals and that it's like no , there's still people you know and so many of them came up to me after the show and were like you know what ? You just gave me six more months of peace and you made me feel like a person for the first time .
I haven't felt like a person in years that I've been incarcerated in this institution . I was like you know what . That is why I do this . That is why I do comedy . The pay , the money is going to come .
It's so much more rewarding to me to hear that after a show than people just listening to the jokes and then leaving and you don't know if you've affected them any at all . Do you have anything like that with what you do when you're interacting with the students and anything like that in the residence that you know ?
you made that connection yeah , basically because I was in their shoes before . You know , I was once a resident in college and um going to some student workers or some staff members that could help my experience better .
So now I'm on that side where I can make sure that that's given to the residents , uh , making sure that we're there for the support that they need , for those engaging conversations to make them , you know , to help them matriculate their journey in their college .
So you know , I'm there now to make their life , you know , as easier as possible , because you know they're away from their family and from their friends that they grew up in .
So to try to make , try to build those relationships with the residents , you know , really helps me at the end of the day and lets me know , hey , this is something that I should be doing , I'm glad that I'm doing it ?
Yeah , absolutely , and you know I want to get into this too as well . You know you worked at Notre Dame College this past year and you know , like you said , sadly the school has closed . Now we're into June and July , so the school , I believe , has since been closed down . What was it like having to help finish out the school year and help close a school ?
You don't hear about that . So what was that process like , when you hear about these institutions that are , sadly to say , shutting down ?
Well , the work was . The work was a little different because normally around that time frame we found out at the end of end of February , the beginning of March Normally we're preparing for the next year , making sure we have the applications rolled out and just making sure that , you know , we have our ducks in a row .
But now that we know that that's not happening , the work culture , the work culture shifted a little bit . Happening , the work culture , the work culture shifted a little bit . Like , we had to make sure that our residents were going to transfer to different places in a timely manner . We had to make sure that the students were taken care of first .
At the same time , we also , you know , had to consider about ourselves like , what are we going to do next , you know , after the school closed . So it was just a lot of pressure and time was starting to run out against us .
But at the end of the day , you know , we , we were there for the students and we wanted to make sure that , wherever they go , that they had the support and they had the all the items that they needed so they wouldn't be lost out , uh , when the school year starts .
Um , it was , it was a tough time but you know , slowly but surely , I think we did the best that we could at notre dame for our students yeah , I mean I I was shocked to say because .
Shocked to hear it , because , as everyone knows here that you know the wonderful manager of the podcast here , johnny fitty falcone you know y'all work together up there and he told me that and it kind of like threw me as a for for a loop there , because we've had several ndc guests on the phone on the show .
Johnny was one , beth ford , mike shields , duncan williams , uh , mark richmond and a few others that are probably slipping my mind and I apologize to them because I know they still listen to the show and everything like that if I forgot their name .
But what was it like working with all of them in your time there , before it was even shutting down , because I know what my feelings towards them are and I love all of them . So what was your , your feeling like towards them ?
I remember Beth , for she was in my interview and she's a very empathetic person . You know she cares a lot for the residents . She was working over the admissions department and I believe she's at Walsh University now , but yes , I do remember working with her making sure that our new application was going off for our applicants in a timely manner .
I remember working with Mike Shields , as he was one of the coaches for the team as well , too , making sure that the sports players are signed up for housing , making sure that they abide to the rules and regulations inside the resident halls . Um , you know they really care , uh , for the residents as well .
So we were a small community , so we weren't the residents . Students weren't just a number inside the classroom like we . We know them like by that , by name and what they do , and they remember us as well , um . So so you know working with , uh , not just those two , but you know , some more coworkers .
You know it's something that we wanted to do at Notre Dame . It was , it was a small environment and we were a family and we were there , uh , to help and support each other .
Yeah , I came from , you know , a small environment . Bethany college wasn't that big of a school . It was nice that you weren't just a number to them . I know my sisters went to WVU . I thought that was going to be . The end goal for me was going to WVU and everything like that Didn't pan out the way I wanted to . It's all good .
They didn't know me as student number 4562134 , whatever the number may be . They actually know me as student number four , five , six , two , one , three , four , whatever the number may be . They actually knew me as Mike Bono , and that's not my actual name , mike Bono . I mean my full name is Michael Bonaventura Like , but they didn't know me .
All my professors called me Bono because that was my nickname .
They knew the students on a level like that and you appreciate that when you're at a college and they don't just see you as , oh , that's just another student that's here at this institution that's paying us a tuition to be here and to have those people at school that you know , you still , you grow that relationship with the staff and you know your professors and
your advisors and everybody else like heck , the coffee shop that was in the middle of campus . As soon as I went in . They knew my order as soon as I walked in and I would just walk up to the register and they'd be like , alright , five bucks . I wouldn't say a word and it was like what do you mean ? Five bucks ?
Like you order the same thing when you come in here every day . It's five bucks , mike , give us your card and just move on . We already got it started for you . It's like I appreciate that kind of service . You know it's funny to think about now , but you know it's it's it's people , that's what it is .
But I gotta got to ask you this , because everyone loves a good Johnny story Did you get to interact with Johnny at all a lot at NDC and what was that like ? Because I've known Johnny for years , since going back to Bethany , so it's always nice to get a different perspective from somebody .
Yeah , johnny's an interesting character . On the good side of being interesting , he's a straight shooter . He'll just tell you as it is , he'll just let you know the facts about whatever you want to talk about . He'll give you the intel on it . So I greatly appreciate his time there .
When we were closing , he was even sending me some applications , some links for me to fill out as well , and we were just talking
¶ Facing the Challenges of Higher Education
about , you know , what Notre Dame will look like after the next coming up years and stuff . So we spent some time , you know , just really just being honest with each other and just having some good times at the same time . So definitely , you know , appreciate the information that he gave and you know a very good character overall .
How did you handle his energy level ? I got to ask this because my man is like the energizer bunny on cocaine like he is . He is 152 into whatever he does . How did you handle that energy level ?
we needed it I . It was appreciated . You know , I welcomed it with open arms , um , especially during the times that we were going with in the last year of Notre Dame , like you know , we needed high energy and things to uplift us as well , because it was some somber times , you know .
It was times where we just didn't know what we were going to do next , what was our next paycheck going to look like . But , you know , with that energy , with being positive , it really helped myself to be positive and to keep looking for myself as well to see what's out there .
So , again , you know , it was very appreciated that you can be in such high spirits during times like that where you don't know what's going to happen to you next couple of months . Just having that good faith , you know , and just being positive , it was really appreciated .
Yeah , I mean and you know I hate to have to talk about it too , but you know higher education is in a rough spot right now , with a lot of schools closing or merging or dropping majors in sports and so on and so forth what do you think a lot of these schools need to do to stay open and stay relevant ?
I think a lot of them just really just need to just have a sit down with themselves and just realize , you know , what do we have to do to survive in the future ?
Like what and you know , looking at technology aspect , like what is going on out there that is attracting students to different colleges , what can we do to make our process more seamless and possible for students to be attracted to our schools ?
Just really start to look at the numbers and to see , do we have the programs , do we have the outside events for our students to go to ? Like you know , trying to handle , like this FAFSA fiasco that's been going on . You know , just trying to do the best thing that we can do to survive .
So it's just a lot of questions that these schools need to just need to start answering , just doing as much research as possible , because you know , like you say , like these are starting to be some critical times , especially for the smaller colleges . Um , you know , just having conversations like , can we survive , you know , the next five or ten years ?
Do we need to look at other schools to possible , you know , do a merger ?
So , like , the best thing that colleges can do now is start to ask the questions and be prepared in case that stuff does happen , and to be open and honest as possible with all faculty and staff members to let them know this is where we're at , this is the plan that we have and this is what's going to happen , instead of just you know at the last second .
Well , we tried this , we tried this and you know this is the decision we want to make and you know that's going to be , you know , detrimental , you know , for your faculty and staff , for them to hear it and not to be a part of the healing process and part of , you know , saving the school when they could have the time .
So really , just having those conversations with oneself is the best thing that we can do to continue our education is the best thing that we can do to continue our education .
Yeah , it's a tough time . I mean , like you said , you know there's so many colleges out there and a lot of them are struggling .
Everyone's struggling , really , in all fairness , but you know , when you see colleges dropping , you know sports programs and majors and ultimately , like NDC closing down , I think we're leaning a lot on technology and a lot of students hell . At my son's high school , there's an option for him to go online only in high school . Wow , like that's an option .
For him to go online only in high school . Wow , like that's an option . And it's like . I know COVID opened the eyes to a lot of people . You know we can do these remote learnings and all that , but my son is one of those people that he needs to be in a classroom .
If he's left to his own devices I love him to death he will make the wrong decision every time . He's a 15-year-old boy . He's going to make the wrong decision every time . I was one too . I made the wrong decision every time . But it's crazy to think about because you don't think of them as like the colleges are ever going to go anywhere Like .
You always just think , oh well , that's just where you go to school and that's what happens . But I think technology and we said it before we even started recording is we thought we were going to have some camera issues with getting on Zoom here , and technology is great when it works , but it doesn't always work .
Technology is great when it works , but it doesn't always work . And so I think , do you think a lot of these colleges are not acting on what could happen ?
but reacting to something that happened and then they're just in a bad situation . Yeah , it's definitely that reacting when something happens , you know , like I said earlier , like having those conversations and preparing for it is going to help out a lot .
And back to your point , you know everything going technology , um , it's interesting because you know that can happen , but then you're going to miss out on that social interaction . You know , with other students from a high school standpoint , like you know , if all your class online , what about ? Like the homecoming games ? What about going to like sports events ?
What about , like you know , your prom and all that stuff , like would they still do big events like that ? Yeah , and if you were taking class online and then you do have those shows , so aspect it'll be . You know it may be a weird time , you know , for a student trying to engage with each other .
You know , trying to have those face-to-face conversations because they've only been doing online for that term . So you , you know we noticed that big hiccup after COVID , trying to get students out their rooms and trying to get them to have roommates and go to social events . Like it's a difficult time .
So just doing all this stuff online it really skips out on students learning from one , each other and having that social aspect . So it's like a give or take . You know , if you want to do everything on the technology side wise and you're going to sacrifice those social interactions and the student engagement aspect of it .
Yeah , I fully agree and I kind of saw a little bit of that firsthand . A couple of summers ago . I helped out and I coached a local summer swim team and you know was assistant coach there from ages eight through high school , so eight to 18 . So it was a wide range of kids .
We had , like I want to say , almost 90 kids on the on the swim team from in between those age ranges and I was with the , the older high school more experienced swimmers , because I was a competitive swimmer from the time I was eight all the way through college and everything like that . I've said it on here before had a chance at the 2012 Olympic trial .
So I was a hell of a swimmer . So they stuck me with the more advanced kids and there was one girl and she I mean I hate to say this , but she bugged the crap out of me the entire time because she was always thinking she knew what to do . I love the girl to death .
She was a hell of a swimmer , she's a hell of a person , but she always bucked back . Then , later on in the season , I found out that she was one of those people that was going online , but she was still swimming for the school . Wow , I don't understand that .
How do you not go to school , especially in a high school setting , and not interact with your teammates and your friends on a daily basis ?
And being in school , that was freedom for me when I was in high school , you know , getting to interact with my football buddies , my swimming teammates , and both of those worlds colliding into one , it made me who I am today . And then I finally just asked her .
I was like so you go to school online , you do all your stuff online and then you go to swim practice afterwards ? She was like yeah . I was like so swim practice is really the only interaction you get with your teammates , or is there other stuff ? She's like but we're all friends , we all hang out .
I was like I understand that , but imagine how close of a teammate you would be if you were with them for six to eight hours a day , and then swim practice . Just go to school .
I don't understand people that just don't want to go and have face-to-face conversations and I know it's weird saying that because we're doing this on Zoom , but that's the way of technology . I realize that , as I was saying it , we're doing this conversation on Zoom and not on technology . But it's , yeah , it's . I don't understand it .
I mean , could you shed any light on anything like that for me ? Maybe , I don't know .
No , you know I'm in the same boat as you . You know , as a matter of fact , you know let's use you know , your career as an example . You know you say you're a stand-up comedian . Could you imagine just doing all your shows over Zoom and not having that like live audience basis ?
But you can always see on on like like this , this internet base , you know , but not having like those you know , seeing them how they react to your jokes , or seeing like the environment of the room , like you can only see what's on your screen , like .
Just imagine that and just say , going those times I , I've lived that during covid we had it was zoom shows . I did one , yeah , and I couldn't say that I feed off of the crowd . When't say that I feed off of the crowd . When I'm on stage , I feed off of the energy in the room . I do a lot of crowd work when I'm on stage .
I use crowd work as transitions in between jokes . That's my style , that's what I do . I love it . I love interacting with the crowd and I did a Zoom show and I was like stuttering over jokes I have done for 10 years . I know this joke forwards and backwards , inside and out .
Hell , my wife knows it because she's heard me say these jokes so many times and doing it on zoom . It was I , I was and huh , and it was just like I can't get a read off of anybody . I was like thanks for the opportunity . Guys , I'm never doing this again .
I will wait for the world to open back up , I will write material and I will come back with a whole new slew of jokes . I can't do this . It's crazy to me . But yeah , I don't understand how you want to live through technology . I love technology . Like I said , it's great when it works , but it doesn't need to run your life .
I agree , yeah , yeah , I definitely agree . But , alexander , we are running down near the end of the episode here . I do have to get this segment in . We haven't actually got to do it in a little while and I love this segment and everybody's favorite segment and that is the Fast Fitty Five .
Five random questions from the wonderful manager of the podcast , johnny Fitty , falcone and
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Alexander . These have nothing to do with what we've been talking about for the duration of this show here . They're kind of rapid fire . You can elaborate if you need to , but if you are ready , we'll get started with the Fast 55 . All right , here we go . Alright , and a typical question off the rip who wins in a fight , two camels or one polar bear ?
I think a polar bear . Yeah , a polar bear is always fighting for his food . Camels is just there , so I'm going with a polar bear .
Solid answer . What's the most overrated flavor of ice cream ?
I think chocolate , I'm just a vanilla guy . Every time somebody goes , oh , let's get some chocolate . Nope , I'll be basic and take vanilla , thank you .
I love that answer , oh man . Question number three Would you rather be cold the rest of your life or hot the rest of your life ?
What's the bottom part ? It says shock .
What was it ? Cold the rest of your life or hot the rest of your life ?
Oh man , I have to be cold . You know , I can just try to throw on a coat or something , a hat , but when you're hot , you're agitated , you're ready to fight . You don't think right , it's just , it's a problem within its own , you know . So , yeah , give me the cold .
Yeah , right now , this heat wave that we're we're in I know when we're recording this . Yeah now , the hell with this heat . I'm over it . You can always put more layers on . You can only take so much off before it's game over .
You're just not in the right place . You're not yourself when you're hot .
Absolutely . Question number four Is sausage or bacon better Sausage ? Okay , that's a bold stance where I come from .
Yeah , A breakfast sandwich . I can eat sausage , Like sausage sandwiches with eggs on there . My always dispute . I think bacon is a topping and not a main ingredient . So I know people want to take me to the hills on that one , but bacon's delicious .
I didn't say I didn't like bacon , but I just think it's just a topping and just not a main ingredient for a sandwich . If I didn't have a bacon sandwich I'd be like okay , great , Put some sausage on it . I'd have a double sandwich .
Absolutely . Question number five what is your dream car to own ?
I want a BMW because I was born in Germany , my father was in the military , my mother was pregnant at the time , so kind of want to have like all German , all German everything . So I was German , you know , german car , I was born in German . So I'm still an American citizen , you know , even I was born over there . So , uh , give me a BMW .
As I was not expecting that Cause my dream car is way out there . Uh , it , there , uh it's . It's not really that far out , it's a 79 dodge charger . Uh , I love the . I love this car . The old american muscle I don't think he could beat it . Uh , in mine . I just like the . The look of them too as well .
Uh , but that was the fast 55 and , like I said , nothing to do with what we've been talking about for the entirety of the show . I love this segment , the . The listeners love this segment . Uh , and it's true , johnny fashion . In college he would come up to me with these random scenarios like the first question all right , who wins in a fight ?
And it's the he . He came up to me one time and it's a little off topic of theic , but he came up to me one time at college and I still remember this question because it still throws me for a loop every day . He goes alright , bono , you lock Mike Tyson , conor McGregor , batman and a polar bear in a racquetball court who comes out alive .
It's like what are we doing ? What are we doing ? Does Batman have his tool belt ? It's like , what are we doing ? Yeah , yeah , yeah . Does Batman have his tool belt . I don't know , like , what are we talking about here ? Like I don't know what comes out of that . Questions on the fly yeah , love it , love it . Yeah , that's Johnny . I love him to death .
He hits me with those questions on a daily basis , and so it's nice to give it back to the guests that come on . But , like I said , alexander , we are running down near the end of the episode . I give every guest this opportunity at the end of every show .
If there's anything you want to get out there whether it's for your college , whether it's what you've got going on in your personal life , or if it's just a good message to get out there , I'm going to give you about a minute and the floor is yours .
Um , well , first of all I just want to thank you all for having me on the show . Um , you know Johnny asked me a couple , I think like two months ago , you know , when we were closing down . So you know I'm very appreciated that something . You know he asked me to do , um , while we're not at the same institution anymore .
You know I greatly appreciate it and you know I greatly appreciate it and you know I'm glad I could take this opportunity . You know , for me , you know I moved through God . I'm a very Christian person and with God all things are possible . You know I pray in the morning , really try to live by example .
So I know some people may love it , some people may hate it . I say that , but for me it's the truth . I just want to spread , you know , what I believe in . So God , all things are possible . And you know each day is a new day . So what I mean by that is . So today is Wednesday , you know .
Just really focus on what you want to do today and not tomorrow , because
¶ Guest Message and Closing Remarks
if you're worried about Thursday , that's not fair to Wednesday . So it's not fair to yourself what you can be doing today while thinking about tomorrow , because tomorrow may never come . So just focus on what you want to do today and make the best of it for today .
I got to tell you , alexander , I love it when guests give a good message at the end of the show . I'm all for helping people promote what they got going on , but when it's a good message like that , it's just a nice exclamation point at the end of the episode and , yeah , we have a lot of fun when we sit and talk on here .
But a message like that , I love it . When that happens and I'm actually glad I got all the promo reads out beforehand , because it never fails . Normally , when a guest gives a good message like that , I'm like wow , I really want to just do my closing and be done , but I have to talk about these sponsors and now I feel like it ruins the message .
But I don't have to do that this time . I'm glad we don't . Thank you for coming on . I really do appreciate getting to talk to you .
It was a lot of fun to sit , learn about what you do , higher education and everything like that and , as always , everybody , if you enjoyed the show , be a friend , tell a friend If you didn't tell them anyways , because they might like it just because you didn't . That is going to do it for me and I will see y'all next week .