Escaping Workaholism
Sep 24, 2025•22 min•Season 2Ep. 166
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Episode description
In their book REWORK, 37signals' co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson caution against glorifying nonstop work. In this week's podcast, they tackle a listener's questions related to the chapter Workaholism and dig into employee management including how to measure productivity and how to track progress. They explain why simple conversations often matter more than complex systems.
Key Takeaways
- 00:15 – Judge productivity by paying attention and staying engaged
- 07:50 – Tracking progress doesn’t require complicated systems
- 11:44 – Conversations matter more than systems; don't be a coward
- 15:11 – When work ramps up, handling busier times without burning out
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