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Revival Radio TV: God, Covenants and the Contradictions

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Dr. Gene Bailey, with guest Greg Stephens, discuss God, Covenants, and the Contradictions in the context of George Washington and the covenant he made with God for America.

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In every generation there have been revivals. Massive moves of the spirit that changed the course of history. In every revival, there were believers like you who chose to answer the call to become the one in their generation. Discover your call to be the one in your generation. Welcome back to Revival Radio TV. So glad you're with me today. I'm with my friend Greg Stephens. Good to see you, Gene. Yeah, it's been a while. So we've been on together.

I know. You don't ever....they always keep us apart. There's a reason. Yeah, there's a reason for that. All right. So many of you know, if you don't know, Pastor Greg, along with Brother Copeland, have written a book, The God, God, the Covenant and the Contradiction. And we're going to dive into a little bit about that. But mainly.

Greg, I want to let's in relation to Covenant, let's talk about George Washington first, because we've touched we've touched on the story of George Washington and Brother Copeland's talked about that first day. You know, what I want to understand is Brother Copeland mentioned the the covenant that was struck on the day of the inauguration. That day was April the 30th, 1789.

This was a day of making a covenant with almighty God for the United States of America, a proclamation that was made for the sacred gathering at Federal Hall. Come and see your president. Take his oath and pray that God will accept this land as his. At 9 a.m., the bells rang throughout the city. George Washington made his official oath of office in New York City. He laid his hands on the Bible.

The 17th chapter of Genesis, Washington invoked his oath and covenant under the Lord and sealed it with. So help me God. He bowed his knee to the ground in reverence and kissed the Bible. Afterward, Washington called the senators and newly elected officials to join him, and they walked arm in arm down the streets of New York City's chapel. There, they bowed together, prayed and dedicated this land.

Our beloved America, to God. The day that George Washington was inaugurated, this was the day covenant was invoked. America belonged to God. Almighty. Kind of walk us through what that really means, because a lot of people go, what do you mean? He did the covenant? And what does that really mean? A covenant is an agreement in the simplest form. And now biblical covenant was made between God and man or God with himself and man as a beneficiary. And then there are covenants between men.

They're not the same as a God covenant. He invoked God's name and his blessing in his first leadership role as the President of the United States. Now, as you've probably stated before, there were covenants made before that. The very first one in in Virginia, the next one was in in the Mayflower, Mayflower Compact. And then Washington will do it on his inauguration day. And he will, on purpose, invoke God's name and his blessing for this land and put his hand on the Bible.

That's his very first act as president, the very first Speaker of the House, when we get our own Constitution, will be a pastor. Our founding fathers were not winging it. These guys had a biblical worldview that had been instilled in them with their education and their training from their mothers and their grandmothers. And and it was a common thing in the United States. And so he invokes God's blessing. Yeah.

Right after he puts his hand on the Bible, takes the oath of office, he walks down to a church with everybody with him, and he gets on his knee and he says, We will be your people and you will be our God. And it's exactly like those first three covenants are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Yeah, it's just like the covenant of Israel. So we are aligned ourselves with the God of Israel at that very at the very beginning of this. And that's going to be tested later on.

We'll have a civil war with north and south split. That's exactly what happened with Israel. So a lot of our history lines up with those original covenants. But Washington, the fact that Washington knew this and he knew when God made covenant with Abraham and Genesis 17 especially And, you know, the thing about George Washington nowadays, you don't in schools, unfortunately, public schools don't teach the fact that he was such a man of faith. He was committed. In fact, he was so committed.

He was he was a man of prayer. And if you go back and read your true history, you'll find that's exactly who he is. Here's a quote. He said, The American cause of independence would have come to a complete disaster, except for one thing the direct intervention of God to save us. They seem to have an understanding of their founding fathers.

Right. We talked about Washington and Jefferson and all our founding fathers, But I believe their founding fathers, the pilgrims, those that landed in Virginia, Virginia Beach area, what is now known as that they had an understanding of what their intent was for this land. And you see them exhibiting that and speaking that. Well, speaking of Virginia, you know, there was Robert Hunt, you know, in 1607 when he landed.

But, you know, all these people that we go back and look in and I would recommend you do that. Take some time. Mom, Dad, Grandma, Grandpa. You know, because if we don't if we don't rehearse our history, this is part of what the Jewish people do. So well, if we would do what they do about their history, with our history, we wouldn't lose what we've. It's the reason Abraham was called, right? He was called because he will teach his children. Right. And that's that's our primary responsibility.

Train my child the way he should go when he's old. He'll not depart from it. We need to teach our children. We need to teach them that America has a covenant with God. So do you think that's why we're dealing with what we're dealing with now? We haven't told our children. Absolutely. It's the reason. Can only be the reason. And. And Lucifer knows you're Satan knows he hates the covenant of God's. Israel had a covenant for their land. It was given to them by God.

They really lease the land because the Scripture over and over and over, place after place, says the land is mine. This is why they were to give it rest. This is why they were not supposed to go after other strange and false gods and other things. But we've done that. We've we followed after things. Secular humanism. Sports today, in many cases has become our God, where that the NFL's more popular than the local church. And that was one of the goals was was having games on Sunday.

But we've got to teach our people again that we have there is a God. He is real. He has a covenant with this nation. He has a covenant with Israel. Because if Satan can get us to any of those things to not true, then God doesn't exist. You know, I had somebody asked me one time, Can you prove God exist? I said, Yeah, Israel, Jews, they're still here. And all these other nations have come and gone because he watches over his word to perform it.

My covenant, Will I not break in or alter the words that have gone out of my mouth? And if he's the same yesterday, today, day, and forever, then we need to be that way too, with him. And that's how we were established at the beginning. That's how this nation was established. It's how Israel was established. God made binding blood agreements with man, and he continued to do that, each one progressively revealing the Messiah. That's what the book is about.

So we go through the Scripture and we see covenant after covenant after covenant promises. Is there any in there the God broke that He changed his mind so he didn't keep his word. He got close. Once he got close, once he he regretted that he'd made man, he was going to destroy them. And Moses will go to him and said, You can't do that. And it says that God repented of that. I mean, he was going to start over with Moses. So you hear this, Here's how this started.

We walked with God. Adam was created in his image and Eve. And so they were like this. And then when the fall happened, when Eve was deceived, we went down here. And so now there's this gulf between us. So the question was, how can a holy and righteous and just God have a relationship and a broken world and a fallen man? How is that possible? Is there a path back? The covenant was the path back to when he himself will take on human flesh.

We know that is Jesus and pay the penalty that we we we got that we did. The only sin Jesus ever committed was mine. Right? And the only righteousness I've ever had is his. And that's the great exchange of the covenant. And when you're totally aware of that gene, it makes healing easy. It makes prosperity easy. Does it make it is it makes it faith because it's not dependent upon me. There it is. It's dependent upon him.

There were people in Scripture that Jesus will say, Your faith made you whole, but I find no indication that that person knew they were in faith. When the woman who had the issue of blood in Capernaum, it says in Scripture when she heard about him, she said, I'll do this and I'll be healed. And that's exactly what happened.

When she heard about him, her whole faith was in him, not in if I quoted enough verses, if I've read the Bible enough, if I've done this enough, it was her whole faith was in him. When Peter got his eyes off of Jesus on the Sea of Galilee, he began to sing. And. And he is the down payment, but he is the full payment of my covenant with God. I'm perfectly restored in Covenant back to the place that Adam had the first Adam because of Jesus.

He's my second Adam. I've been remastered and see there's a big difference between conforming and transforming. Sure. Conforming means I'm going to conform you to do this and this and this Got to conform into this mold, transform form is what he does too. Where he makes me as he is. Paul will right be be transformed, be not conform to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of our mind.

And so we have to renew our mind to what Jesus did, but we have to renew our mind to the history of America, and that this is our purpose and this is why we were founded. And when you read a quote, I want to read one here from Washington talking about the Constitution. When asked about it, he said, Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair. The rest is in the hands of God.

So when we see things in disrepair, those that are wise can repair, we can restore, we can repair what's been broken. It's not too late for America, but it begins with being the one. Will you be the one that say, No, that's not right. This is the way it should be. So All right. So George Washington, we have all this history of covenants before George Washington. Then he does on his day of inauguration. How did we get so off?

How do we get off so far off base, We start removing God from daily life. We start looking to ourselves. Humanism. We started it's it's been a slow slide. It wasn't immediate. If it had been immediate, everybody would have rebelled against that. But it wasn't immediate. It was just a slow little transition. Humanism. I think we'll see things like Darwinism and you've talked about that on this program. All these little things begin to take us further away from what is true.

Jesus Christ is grace and truth. That's the way John described it. And the further you get from truth, then you have to establish some other truth. And when when the truth is about us, the reason Rome fell is not because they were bad architects. It's because they lost an absolute by which to base their society apart. When Caesar said, I'm God, then everybody said, Well, dude, you have flaws. You're not God. And that's what we did.

We got so far away that we can't recognize the way back, you know, or the way of actual truth. And then it becomes relative with, Well, that's your truth and that's hurt those that claim their truth. Now there is a standard of truth, and I can prove that to you that we believe that still also. Okay, I'm not a musician, but I live in a house with one guitar. They have all these different strings, and one of the strings is an A right. There's an A string on the guitar.

Well, an A is an A is an A. No matter what style of music you play, you can tell if it's out of tune. We can't say, well, we play A like this when we play country and we play A like this when we play rock or classical.

That same note on the piano, Middle C is middle C, It's got to be it's got to sound like middle C, And so if you play in Nashville or in or in Los Angeles or in New York City, or if you play in a rock band or in concerts or C is C. A is A. So we have a standard, your guitar has to be in tune, your piano has to be in tune. So we believe in standards. Don't say that. Well, that's truth.

And you say that you say that to a liberal, and they'll just be like, Oh, so you do believe in standards because we all have that standard, but we've replaced God as our standard. We've replaced the Bible as our standard, and that's what has to be. We've even replaced the Constitution Gene. Well, we have. As our standard. That's true. And people still want to change it. Absolutely. And they call it a living document as if that sounds like a good thing.

Sure. You know, you don't want a dead document. Yeah, but it's not to be changed. All right. So let me ask you this about we have so much because we talk about revival, church history, what God's done, what he's doing now, and what how we can see revival coming in our own world. Because we're you know, we when we say revival, we always think, oh, big, big meeting. Everybody's falling down, which it can be. But the reformation is what we seek. The change that revival brings to the.

So I think we can all agree, everybody watching that we need not just a revival in America, but we need the reformation that comes with it, that we have to see some changes happen. So now overlaying that thought process with the covenant, how do we how do we get from how do we get from where we are now back there? Okay, So in Israel, we don't talk about it in this book a lot. Israel had a land covenant that's mentioned with Abraham, but it's really mentioned with Moses.

And they're living outside of their land, their promised land. They send spies in two of them, to say we're well able to take the land, and the others did not. The people's hearts melted within them. It's it's giving that evil report that causes people's hearts to melt. We've got to two of them said we can do it. But those two, what they did was they didn't go on in themselves. And well, the rest of you stay here. They became the youth leaders is what they did.

They realized, okay, the next generation's going in. I'm going to make sure that you know the truth. And so when they went into their land, Deuteronomy 28 was just the instructions. When they get to Joshua Chapter eight, they come to a blessing mountain and a cursing mountain, and they will literally make covenant with God for their land. That's what Washington did that day. He made a covenant with God for our land, the final and third one.

And so they obligated themselves then and obligated God, if we go chasing after other gods, if we fall away, then we'll lose our position, we'll lose our authority. They were carried away into captivity. And I'll say that's what's happened to us a lot. In a lot of ways we've lost that. The covenant really is simple. It's not hard, Jesus said. My yoke is easy and my burden is light. It's a religious people that make it hard, he said. Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy.

And they had law after law after law after law. They added to sure. And it's when we do that with God's simple instructions that that's when we get an error, that's when the enemy will attack us. So pointing back to a revival, we all see revival in light of the covenants we need to not make it so difficult. Revival is not hard. It's really not is simple. We've tried to build our defenses and doors and build all this stuff. The thinking that that will cause a revival and it won't.

It will fix the theology. So fixing the theology and like what you talking us both you obviously talk about in the covenant book because it first you think covenant you go, oh, there's a bunch of rules I got. No, it's really not. It's not under the New Covenant. The New Covenant fulfills everything. Abraham started it by saying God will provide himself a sacrifice. So we're always looking for that sacrifice. And each time it narrows down and narrows down to this.

They go in as a family into Egypt. They come out as a nation, and then it narrows down to one tribe in that nation, then one family, Jesse, his family in that tribe. And when you see that, then see each time it's revealing what we're looking for, who we're looking for. And when Jesus comes on the scene, he says, I didn't come to to abolish and condemn the law. I came to fulfill it. When you realize he fulfilled all of those stupid requirements that I can't fulfill, I have no ability to do it.

If we would preach the truth of his love and his acceptance and not his judgment, the judgment was placed on him. So I've been judged in Christ. I'm in him. And so when we when we Jesus said, if I be lifted up, I'll draw. Amen. And me, if you want to have a Holy Ghost move, you preach Jesus. That's just the way it works. It happened in chapter ten, Chapter two Covenant. He's fulfilled them all.

And so what's that word about the contradiction to every covenant in that book and in every covenant in the Bible, there is a contradiction. We've train people so much to rebuke themselves because your mind will come up with a reason why something is not going to work. That's what it's created to do. The knowledge of good and evil your mind created. Come up with what won't happen. And so for you it might be I won't get healed of this this time, or whatever it is for Abraham and Sarah.

They're too old. Yeah, and the plumbing doesn't work. Sure. That's the contradiction. Not to be crude. That's the contradiction to why that promise isn't going to happen. So whatever promise God has given you, there's a contradiction that's come up in your mind as to why it won't work. Well, how do we overcome the contradiction? Well, it says in Hebrews Chapter 12 that Jesus endured such contradiction against himself. He answered the contradictions.

And so if we will keep our focus, even as a nation on Jesus Christ and our covenant, that Washington made with us, he overcame every contradiction. It's not too late for America. It's not too late for your family. It's not too late for revival. It's not too late for a move of God. We just got to get our eyes on the right place. It's not going to come through a person other than Jesus. Now, he'll. He'll use vessels, Right? But it's not dependent upon me. Is dependent upon him.

Now, when we get enough people, it seems like in unity that want the same thing that are hungry for it, he shows up. If any two of you gather together in my name there in my in the midst. He's right here right now. So you said. And if you need to Baptists to get together. Sure. I need to Assembly of God. Absolutely. But you've got to be one or the other, right? No, no. Even so, I can be within unity with someone that doesn't agree with my theology. Sure. If we agreed on Jesus. There you go.

Then yes, That's when it happens. Now, even when heathen got in agreement and in unity tower of Babel, God said, Let's go see this thing because nothing is impossible to them. So even when heathen get in unity, he shows up. Unity is like an attractant to him. He doesn't run from sin, he runs to it. He became it. Product of sun is the perfect example. We've taught sin and and taught people. We've we've taught at them rather than teach them who they are. And so that's why we don't have.

We'll explain that a little bit. Greg What do you mean? You've taught at ‘em. We get offended when the waiter or waitress is gay. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well, God just brought the perfect opportunity for me to be a a witness to them, and I don't have to blatantly do it. It's just the my attitude. But we get upset at you go to a sporting event and the guy is dropping curse words, right and left. Well, that's what they do. Sure. But we we've created this distance with us and that shouldn't be.

We need to answer Jesus’ prayer where he prayed for laborers to go into the harvest. I'm telling you, if you get excited about that, revival will follow you everywhere you go. We've seen it with people. It's happening on college campuses. Thousands of young people, and nobody's leading it. I mean, you what I mean is, sure, it's just a grassroots and nameless. Nameless. And that's that's a covenant. That's a covenant revival right there.

So Greg, people sit at home going, okay, I'm hearing this sounds good, because Jesus already did all the hard part. I did all the heavy lifting. The part we couldn't do. That we could never do. So understanding and I love this at the head of the book, it says, Accessing God's promises of healing, peace and provision. Overlay that now again with the Founding Fathers and what happened in America, because it all points to revival.

You know, the Founding Fathers, you and I have talked about this a lot. There's you know, every you go to the Capitol building, all you see is paintings of pastors and statues of pastors. And our favorite Peter Muhlenberg, where I love it. Yeah. And right above where the speaker of the House in God we trust in God, we trust is written right there. So did those Founding Fathers have a better understanding of covenant, you think, than we do? I think so, yeah. They knew what they came from.

They knew what tyranny was. They knew what an abusive king is all about. Washington said this. What right does King George have to put his hand in my pocket? They understood. They wrote. They would say things like, No king, but King Jesus. I mean, that was some of the battle cries. Give them watts from the Watts hymnal. They used that for wadding in their bullets. I mean, they had an understanding that the battle they were in was spiritual. That's being played out in the natural.

And that's what we're seeing right now. The battles right now are spiritual. They're not political, they're spiritual, They're not political. Man makes it political. Israel is not political. Israel is biblical. I'll say this. America is not political. America's biblical. Because that founding covenant was that we would preach the gospel all over the world. That was that was in the Mayflower Compact. That was also. Yeah, in Virginia. And then Washington fulfills it once we're a land.

See, it's almost like Joshua Chapter eight when they stood on the Blessing Mountain and cursing Mountain and swore to one another they were in the land, we the other two were done. We were still part of Britain. But when Washington did that one, we're in the land, we are in our promised land. And so that one Brother Copeland teaches on it. It's phenomenal. That one is significant because that's the generation that inherited their promised land and it's a mirror picture of Israel.

And this is why we've got to get back to that place. We've got to have godly people represent us at all levels. And that's what Revival Radio is about. That's what this ministry's about. That's what the “Covenant and the Contradiction” is about. God will raise up people who understand his agreements with them. Amen. And they'll walk in it. All right, we got a couple of minutes. Greg, would you pray for the people at home?

Lord, we thank you and we praise you that you are the fulfillment of long promised covenants. Father, I thank you that even the people that are listening and watching this right now, that there are people in their past, there are generations of people that prayed for this generation. There are people that prayed and believed for their family and they prayed for their children and their children's children, their children's grandchildren. Lord, They never received the promise.

They never received their harvest. They sewed toward things that they never reaped from. So, Father, I pray that this generation and the one that follow us, should you tarry, will reap where they did not so that they will reap the previous generations prayers that you will save America again. That you will bless us, and that you will give us everything that you desired for us to be, so that we will in turn bless the earth and bless the world.

And Father, I thank you that you're quickening hearts and minds right now. You're speaking to people. I thank you that you're healing people right now. I think you that you're filling people with the Holy Spirit. I thank you that you're reminding people of dreams that they laid down and allowed the dust of life to get on them, that they're going to dust those off right now in the mighty name of Jesus. I thank you that you're prospering them and you're blessing them.

I thank you that family members are coming home, that they're going to wake from their senses like like like they've been asleep and they'll shake themselves. And I said, I need to go see my mom. I need to go see my dad. The lifestyle I'm living is not right. I need to come back to God. Father, I thank you that laborers are coming across them and they'll do that. And they'll come back home and families will be reunited.

And we'll have a miracle revival in America again, where your presence is felt in every church that's willing it's felt in the marketplace. It's felt at the bus stop. It's felt in the halls of Congress. There's a tangible anointing and glory that will rest on this land. Lord, I ask it one more time a tangible anointing that even people bars will close down. People won't want to do those things because of the anointing and the glory that'll be in this land. I thank you for it.

It starts with you and your home. In Jesus name, Amen. Amen. Amen. All right. So if you want to get a copy of the book, “God the Covenant and the Contradiction”. Come. We just barely touched on a lot of what's in here. You go to the website, the KCM.org websites on your screen, and you can get your copy. Thanks, Greg. Thank you. Come back next week. Let's talk about some other stuff. Okay? All right. We'll see you next time.

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