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Revenue Builders

Force Managementwww.forcemanagement.com
Welcome to the Revenue Builders podcast, a weekly show featuring B2B sales leaders and executives. Hosted by Five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management’s Co-Founder John Kaplan, the show goes in the barrel, behind the scenes with the people who have been there, done that and seen the results. Revenue Builders covers the best practices for scaling and growing your business, while sharing the pitfalls to avoid. Great conversation. Solid interviews. Tangible takeaways to help you succeed. If you enjoy our content, please subscribe, rate and review the show to help us reach more people. This show is brought to you by: Force Management where we help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Check out forcemanagement.com more information.
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Episodes

Make the Number with Matt Maloney

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Matt Maloney, SVP of Global Sales at Fireblocks, to dissect a critical lesson in sales leadership: the unwavering focus on hitting the number. Maloney recounts a pivotal mentoring moment at CloudLock that reshaped his approach to sales strategy, team structure, and market calibration. The episode also explores common missteps in early-stage startups—like trying to pursue too many use cases or building teams mis...

Jun 22, 20258 min

AI-Driven Sales Innovation with Bobby Morrison

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Bobby Morrison, Chief Revenue Officer of Shopify, to discuss the transformative power of AI in the sales domain. Bobby shares an in-depth look at Shopify's innovative approach to structuring their go-to-market strategy using pods, which integrate sales, customer success, and engineering teams for optimal client engagement and business growth. He delves into the role of AI in streamlining tasks, enha...

Jun 19, 202554 min

Champions, Power and Influence

In this short segment, John McMahon talks through what it means to get a Champion to actively sell on your behalf. Much of which comes down to Power and Influence. He and John Kaplan talk through the nuances of finding someone with Power and Influence. Check out the full episode here: https://revenue-builders.simplecast.com/episodes/a-closer-look-at-champions Here are additional episodes on Champions: Coaches vs. Champions: https://revenue-builders.simplecast.com/episodes/coaches-vs-champions-wi...

Jun 15, 20257 min

Mastering Sales Metrics and Executive Alignment with Jim Drill

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by seasoned sales leader Jim Drill to discuss essential aspects of the B2B sales process, career development, and leadership. Jim shares valuable lessons from his extensive career, emphasizing the importance of understanding customer pain points, selling higher in the customer organization, and connecting solutions to concrete business metrics. Through insightful stories from his experience at companie...

Jun 12, 20251 hr 10 min

Shifting Left in Sales Negotiations with Tim Caito

In this curated episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we delve into the intricate world of sales negotiation with expert Tim Caito from Force Management. We explore the crucial aspects of negotiation, from preparing champions to dealing with procurement and the power of starting early in the sales process. Tim shares valuable insights and strategies to help organizations preserve value in the final deal and achieve successful negotiations. KEY TAKEAWAYS [00:01:07] Starting early in the sales ...

Jun 08, 202516 min

Building High-Performance Cultures with Paul Capombassis

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Paul Capombassis, Chief Revenue Officer at MongoDB. They discuss Paul's extensive career from PTC to MongoDB, focusing on his strategies for creating high-performance cultures in sales. Paul shares his approach to hiring disruptors over domain experts, the importance of developing leaders from within, and the transformational programs like BDR to CRO that MongoDB has implemented. The conversation al...

Jun 05, 202558 min

Scaling Sales at a Startup with Chris Reisig

In this episode of The Revenue Builders Podcast hosted by John McMahon and John Kaplan, Chris Reising, a five-time Chief Revenue Officer (CRO) with extensive experience in scaling sales at early-stage tech companies, shares invaluable insights into the challenges and strategies involved in scaling sales functions for startups. From finding product-market fit to hiring the right sales reps and understanding the importance of pain points, this conversation provides a comprehensive guide for entrep...

Jun 01, 202514 min

Maximizing Sales Success with Chris Scanlan

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Chris Scanlan, Chief Revenue Officer at HUMAN. With over two decades of experience in cybersecurity and a history of transformative leadership, Chris shares his insights on key topics such as sales effectiveness, recruiting, enablement, and the importance of a robust revenue operations function. Emphasizing the significance of a well-defined ideal candidate profile and the indispensable role of reve...

May 29, 20251 hr 6 min

Taking Care of Yourself as a Leader with Tony Marino

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Tony Marino, Senior Advisor at Fiserv and executive coach to high-performing leaders. The discussion dives deep into the non-negotiable role of physical and mental wellness in leadership. From billion-dollar responsibilities to 30,000-person teams, Marino explains why sustaining peak performance demands the same discipline as elite athletes. Whether you're leading a company, a team, or just striving to stay on ...

May 25, 20258 min

Blockchain: The Future of Finance with Matt Maloney

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Matt Maloney, SVP of Global Sales at Fireblocks. The discussion dives deep into Matt's background in B2B sales, his journey into the world of cryptocurrency, and how Fireblocks is revolutionizing blockchain security. Matt shares insights on the importance of adaptable, coachable sales teams and the application of traditional sales disciplines to new and emerging markets. The conversation also touche...

May 22, 20251 hr 7 min

Champions and Procurement with Marcello Gallo

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Marcello Gallo, CRO at Sigma Computing, tackling one of the most critical and misunderstood phases of complex enterprise sales: procurement. They dissect the challenges of "separation of church and state," the pitfalls of weak champions, and the importance of owning the final stretch of the sales cycle with confidence, conviction, and clarity of value. KEY TAKEAWAYS [00:00:25] Understand “Separation of Church a...

May 18, 20258 min

Scaling High-Growth Sales Organizations with George Mogannam

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by George Mogannam, CRO at Celigo. George shares insights from his extensive experience in scaling high-growth businesses and leading world-class sales organizations. The discussion delves into the common challenges startups face as they grow, highlighting the importance of establishing the right hiring profiles, formal onboarding and training, key performance indicators (KPIs), and an operating rhythm...

May 15, 20251 hr 8 min

Process Builds Speed with John Rowell

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with John Rowell, co-founder of Pinned Golf and a former enterprise sales leader, to explore the timeless value of preparation in both sales and entrepreneurship. Rowell breaks down how his enterprise sales discipline shaped his startup success, sharing tactical wisdom on transforming cold calls into warm connections, creating repeatable processes, and winning buyer trust from the very first interaction. Whether you...

May 11, 20259 min

Embracing the Work of Resilient Leadership with Tony Marino

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Tony Marino, a senior advisor and executive coach with a storied career as CHRO for major global companies like Fiserv. The discussion revolves around the critical aspects of corporate leadership, the parallels between athletics and business, and the importance of maintaining physical and mental well-being for optimal performance. Marino introduces the concept of 'five-tool players' in a corporate c...

May 08, 20251 hr 8 min

Surrounding Yourself with a Great Team with Matt Nolan

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Matt Nolan, CRO of Redwood Software, to discuss what it really takes to scale a revenue organization beyond the $200M mark. Matt shares what he’s learned stepping into the CRO role—shifting from deal-maker to system-builder, navigating cultural integration post-acquisition, managing board dynamics, and building trust through authentic leadership. If you're a sales leader, aspiring CRO, or operating in a private...

May 04, 20258 min

Scaling High-Growth Companies with Marcello Gallo

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Marcello Gallo, Chief Revenue Officer at Sigma Computing. The discussion dives into Marcello's extensive experience in enterprise sales leadership, including his non-traditional path, lessons from leading roles at various companies, and the importance of structure, mentorship, and continuous learning. Marcello shares valuable insights on transitioning from technical roles to sales, territory managem...

May 01, 20251 hr 10 min

Going High and Wide in Strategic Accounts with Jane Thompson

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Jane Thompson of BigPanda to unpack the art and science of selling into strategic accounts. Jane shares hard-won wisdom on navigating multi-divisional enterprises, building champions across layers of influence, and translating technical capabilities into board-level business value. If you want to elevate from tactical selling to true strategic impact, this episode delivers the roadmap. KEY TAKEAWAYS [00:00:45] ...

Apr 27, 20257 min

Navigating the CRO Role while Building a Great Culture with Matt Nolan

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Matt Nolan, Chief Revenue Officer at Redwood Software. Matt shares his extensive experience in developing global revenue strategies, scaling enterprise automation solutions, and transitioning from venture capital to private equity environments. The conversation covers key lessons such as the importance of culture, the significant role recruiting plays in a CRO's success, the complexities of managing...

Apr 24, 20251 hr 6 min

Interacting with the Board as a CRO with Bob Ranaldli

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Bob Ranaldi of FTV Capital to unpack the delicate dynamics between CROs, CEOs, and board members. From managing expectations to avoiding pitfalls of dysfunction, this conversation dives deep into how CROs can approach board interactions with strategy, self-awareness, and alignment. Perfect for revenue leaders who want to strengthen executive relationships and drive healthy boardroom collaboration. KEY TAKEAWAYS...

Apr 20, 20254 min

Selling into Strategic Accounts with Jane Thompson

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Jane Thompson, Director of Strategic Accounts at Big Panda. They discuss the intricacies of managing strategic accounts in B2B sales. Highlights include essential characteristics for reps, such as thinking in terms of value, having confidence and courage, understanding the customer's organization, and translating technical capabilities into business outcomes. The conversation also covers the importa...

Apr 17, 20251 hr 3 min

Recruiting and the Art of the Interview with Frederik Maris

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Frederik Maris, CRO at Atoss Software SE. Frederik shares how he interviews, assesses, and hires elite enterprise sales talent by focusing on EQ, character, and curiosity over resumes alone. Learn the power of the ICE criteria and how seasoned leaders spot top performers by blending science, gut instinct, and situational awareness. KEY TAKEAWAYS [00:01:00] The ICE criteria: Intelligence, Character, Coachability...

Apr 13, 20259 min

Pinned Golf: Making the Shift from Sales to Entrepreneurship

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by John Rowell, co-founder of Pinned Golf, about his transition from a successful career in enterprise sales to entrepreneurship. Rowell shares his invaluable experiences from working at EMC Dell Technologies and Lacework, highlighting the importance of process and preparation. He discusses how these skills translated into building a thriving startup, explains the significance of defining an ideal cust...

Apr 10, 20251 hr 8 min

From Deals to Recruiting: Owning the Pipeline with Chris Vik

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Chris Vik, CRO at Leapwork, to discuss the critical role of pipeline generation (PG) in both sales and recruiting. Chris challenges the notion that PG is dead, emphasizing the relentless effort required from leaders to inspect, inspire, and engage their teams. He also highlights the importance of leaders taking ownership of recruitment rather than outsourcing it, ensuring they build high-performing teams. Tune ...

Apr 06, 20257 min

Understanding the Nuances of the CRO/CEO Relationship

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Bob Ranaldi, a seasoned global sales executive with over 20 years of experience. Bob shares insights on optimizing CRO-CEO relationships, emphasizing high communication, aligned goals, and data-driven decision-making. The discussion explores how to create a strong board, the importance of sales efficiency, and the need for CROs to own their numbers and impact the forecast immediately. Bob and the ho...

Apr 03, 20251 hr

Simplifying Expectations for Your Reps with Parm Uppal

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Parm Uppal, CRO at Benchling, to discuss the critical shift from measuring sales activities to tracking accomplishments. Parm shares insights on setting clear expectations for reps, training them for high-impact meetings, and aligning their daily actions with business outcomes. The conversation explores strategies for reaching economic buyers, adapting to shifting funding landscapes, and simplifying sales execu...

Mar 30, 20258 min

Training Your Teams for Complex Enterprise Sales with Frederik Maris

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John Kaplan are joined by Frederik Maris, the Chief Revenue Officer at Atoss Software SE. Frederik shares his extensive experience in B2B sales leadership, offering insights on recruiting top talent, the importance of early career learning, and the critical role of first-line managers. The discussion delves into qualities to look for in sales reps, the significance of qualifying prospects, and how to instill a culture of con...

Mar 27, 20251 hr 6 min

Retaining Top Talent with Mike Earnest

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Mike Earnest from Wiz to discuss the critical topic of retaining top sales talent. Mike shares his philosophy on building a culture of buy-in rather than compliance, the role of authenticity in leadership, and how sales leaders can help their teams see a clear future within the company. He also highlights the importance of transformational management, showing how investing in employees’ growth leads to long-ter...

Mar 23, 20256 min

Driving Pipeline with Christopher Vik

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, host John McMahon and John are joined by Christopher Vik, Chief Revenue Officer at Leapwork. Chris shares his journey through various sales leadership roles before delving into the state of pipeline generation today. He emphasizes the ongoing need for consistent pipeline generation, detailing how AI and shifting markets impact this critical activity. Through personal anecdotes, Chris outlines the five key components of building a robust pipeline g...

Mar 20, 20251 hr 8 min

Getting Buy-in for the Buying Process with Patrick Ball

In this short segment of the Revenue Builders Podcast, we revisit the discussion with Patrick Ball, CRO of Crux Informatics, to explore the power of a well-defined sales process. Patrick shares how aligning with the buyer’s journey improves win rates, eliminates wasted efforts, and sets the foundation for a strong business case. He also discusses key red flags to look for, the role of stakeholder engagement, and how to structure a sales motion that drives real value. If you're in B2B sales, you ...

Mar 16, 20257 min

Data-Driven Decision-Making with Parm Uppal

In this episode of the Revenue Builders Podcast, hosts John McMahon and John are joined by Parm Uppal, the Chief Revenue Officer at Benchling. Parm shares his journey through various sales and executive roles, illustrating his approach to using data as a cornerstone for the development and coaching of sales teams. They delve into the intricacies of simplifying vast amounts of data to draw actionable insights and avoid overwhelming sales reps. The conversation also explores the importance of dist...

Mar 13, 20251 hr 7 min
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