Discussing the Coronavirus with Dr. Rami & Vish Pt. 1

spk_1:   0:01
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spk_2:   2:01
Alabaster. Thank you so much for inviting us to speak about this. Uh, you're doing great. Thank you.

spk_1:   2:10
How are you doing, Rommie?

spk_0:   2:12
We're doing good. And thank you for the great opportunity. A pastor. We really appreciate it. Um, the efforts you are putting on this thing on DA This is Rami. Are physical therapy helped coach on. Duh. Ah, Could be ms dot com a little in Chief. Andi with me. Ah, Doctor. Wish

spk_2:   2:34
I am British. Ah, and I'm an MD physician. I I also have a master's in public health, and I've been practicing since 10 years.

spk_1:   2:44
Wow. I'm so honored to have you on the podcast. today you're gonna be viewed and listen to many people. And I know this is just the beginning, but, you know, we're looking at a much different world. Doctors. Six months ago, the world was a, ah, fast pace. Everybody was doing their thing. And literally the world has come to a standstill. This Corona virus invaded world it, I guess it started in China. That's what they're telling us. Well, I'm told. As of today, America is the number one hot spot for this virus. How it traveled and and got to America. And now America is the number one hot spot is a mystery that we need to discuss is well today. But, um, it's just just it's just incredible. What What's happening? What What is this virus? Doctors tell us a little bit about what we're dealing with.

spk_2:   3:46
So you're right, Pastor Belson that it is. Ah, it has created a havoc in the whole world. And it's been only a couple of days and probably a couple of months, and it has read widely like wildfire. So let me tell you something about the Corona virus. It is a new virus in the sense that we've had corona virus. In the past, we have had Corona virus like moors and stars in the past, which wasa type of corona virus. And this is a tight business, like a type of a new strain of corn, a virus, and our body doesn't know at present how to respond to it, how to deal with it. And that is why it is deadly. And it is deadly to some people who require ventilate her support as the lungs are damaged, some off them on ventilator support, they get well, but many don't make it. And that is why it is deadly. So we have to be cautious and we have to do our best to stop the spread of this wires. And the best way to stop it is to do social distancing. And then we hear so much about social distancing. So what is social distancing that is? Do not go to work unless you absolutely necessary. We have to go to work. Take off. Do not go outside. If you do not absolutely need to go outside, you can go for a walk. You can go for some exercise, but make sure do not go in a crowded places. If there is a crowd back up from there, go at a different timing. You do not need to be in a place where there are potential cases because not everyone has symptoms. Many do not have symptoms, but you do not want to be transferring it to someone on s getting into yourself and exposing someone else. Don't only think about yourself, but you're also giving it to someone else. Think about that as well. He but least six feet distance between others. Pick other precautions. Watch your hands. Do not touch your face your mouth, your eyes with unwashed hands. Cover your mouth and nose with the tissue and coughing or sneezing. Avoid handshakes. A wide contact with sick people. Most importantly, if you have any sickness. If you are feeling a little down under the weather, stay at home. You do not need to go out. If you're feeling sick because you don't know your community itself is down. You might not be having called You might not be having Corolla, but your immunity is down. You are exposing yourself more at that time

spk_0:   6:22
here. One important thing is like you know people having little bit. Symptoms like a cough fever on the shortness of breath, the panic, They start heading towards the emergency rooms and hospitals. I mean, I don't do that. Like, you know, if you have a small symptoms like a cough, fever, headache or anything, we just call your doctor. Call Emergency Pride Toe. Are you heading towards the emergency at hospitals on to talk to your doctor before you go anywhere outside?

spk_2:   6:55
Yes, About two brings me to this point. What are the symptoms of Corona virus? So fever, headache, cough. These are the most common symptoms and these are usually mind. So what to do? If you have any of these mild symptoms, do not panic. Do not go to the emergency department. Most likely you might have a flu. You don't want to be exposed to Corona virus if you don't have one. So don't go to the emergency department. Call your health care provider. That is most important. He or she will guide you what to do based on your symptoms. Wear a mask if your problem. If you do not have a mass, cover your nose and mouth with the scarf. Everyone has a start at home and keep your loved ones away. If possible, sleep in a different room. Use a different restroom. Try to clean the surface is off your counters. Door knobs, which is often so other person in the house may not get affected.

spk_0:   7:58
That's here since we're Christians. But we are not immune to this virus. We will get the virus. Are you will pass this wireless to the next person? I understand we have a lot of freight under We are Christians were beers. But the white, this is is a non Christian Are you cannot say the way This is a Christian. No, you have wireless is in a cursed not Christian are non Christian. And so why Just don't have any religion on DA the wireless Don't believe any God just ah, you know. Yes. Remember that.

spk_1:   8:37
I understand. You know those air. Good points. Let me ask you this. What you're talking is just so many questions. I know our listeners are gonna are gonna be thinking about as well you mentioned. Don't go to the doctor. That's that's important because you said you could actually have symptoms. That isn't the Corona virus, but going to the doctor could expose you to people that have the Corona virus.

spk_2:   9:03
That's right.

spk_1:   9:05
Interesting. So so literally. They need to contact their doctor. Tell them what they're dealing with his instruction guard. Because you could put yourself in harm's way by panicking and going into areas where people are already infected.

spk_0:   9:20
That's true. So we strain the medical system right now because of the Arpanet nous. So we supposed to our go to emergency as soon as we think we have a current. All right. Is there something else like I'll come through just to call your doctor So they will guide you what to do the next immediately. So right now, there is no treatment for the Corona wise. So if you go to hospitals, they cannot treat you with any kind of ah treatment. Right now, you know the best treatment is stay home on dhe. Take care. Are symptoms in inside the house. That means like us. We discussed before. Isolate yourself. You know, just don't expose toe outside in around me and these other things we have to think twice before we exposed.

spk_1:   10:13
Excellent. Excellent. This is incredible information. You know, Dr Rami, you mentioned something about the fact that the Corona virus, it's a really living thing and it doesn't in as far as Christians. I know there's, there's, there's we probably should have a whole nother discussion about this. Maybe to do apart, too, because that's Christian. There has been a lot of mixed signals. Some Christians were saying, You know, you have to have faith and you can't worry about the Corona virus. Go out and do your thing and get into crowded areas. You know all of these things because you gotta have faith and faith is gonna take care of it. But now we're finding out that a lot of Christians have the virus and and they're in harm's way. So they were. Maybe being this may not be a spiritual attack as much as it is just a virus that we have to protect ourselves from. What do you think about that?

spk_2:   11:10
Well, Dr Will Caster present. This is ah good thing that you brought this up. Yes, we are Christians, and we need Fabius. And this is the time we need faith more than any time, any other time. But God has also given us wisdom. He has given us that wisdom to make that choice, that you stay out of harm's way. He didn't get. Give us the wisdom to just go and say, OK, I have prayed. So nothing's going to touch me. Yes, that's true. But it's been then Satan tempted Jesus that okay, you fall, you just dive out from the mountain and the God will tell angels to catch you. He'll send angels to catch. You couldn't do that because he was He knew the world more than anything. Anyone else. He said that I am not supposed to attempt God. This is what is supposed to happen, and it will happen. So I'm not going to tempt to God to do that. So that is wisdom. You have to use your wisdom in times like these.

spk_1:   12:12
I like that. It's very, very, very powerful

spk_0:   12:15
under one past, right? I think one more thing we have to remember, like, you know, not being selfish, like, you know. So okay, I'm a Christian. I have faith, Onder. I'm immune to this virus. But do you think the Christian said, uh, immune delight? Us? No, the widest Don't know anything about it. So before we exposed to ourselves to others like you are casting anxiety and panic to in other people's lives like you are just carrying and giving to the some other people. You may not get this way this, but you're the one who's spreading the waitress, right? So we have to be very careful before we're putting outside. Like, you know, our faith is, uh, important thing. Like, you know, we have to have the frayed at the same time. We have to have the common sense how to prevent this wireless, how to stop spreading

spk_2:   13:12
again. There are laws in nature that what has already made you cannot just jumped from a cliff and say, Oh, God will just because God is God, I have faith. I'll jump from a cliff and he's going to send someone to catch me. Or the gravity will not work this time. No, those are the laws made by God. So we have to. We have to have that, Mr. We have to have that common sense and put it in the right perspective.

spk_0:   13:36
Your ground he created by God. Norman. What? We're Christians and non Christians. If I jump from the top, I will land. I will fall. I will break my legs. This is the law. That's it. Like you were Christians on a Christian. That doesn't matter. We have to obey the last off the guard at the last of the nature that is blonde. We have Toby.

spk_1:   14:00
You know, it's funny. Dr. Rami, would you just say when I was younger? I think I was Maybe, I don't know, 89 or 10 or something. I climbed to the top of one of the tallest trees in the park. I mean, I went to the very top and lo and behold, Branch broke and I went straight down and I fell so long that I could make while I was falling and I've bounced. And when I got done bouncing, my leg was shattered and I was in a cast for 18 plus months. I had to have a tutor just to make it through that grade. And And reality hits you hard, doesn't it? Yes. Let me ask you this. You know, when we're talking about this virus, you mentioned something, um, about how we're going to, uh, keep this virus at bay. Is there a cure right now? Are they steal Just trying their best to buying

spk_0:   15:06
solutions. There is not treatment right now. Pasture. Right now, there's lots of clinical trials that just started liking. It will take three months just to do the clinical trials. Then it will take one of your studies of the clinical trials. So it will take up to one year, six months to get the vaccine outside to the common people. Until then, we don't have anything, so Ah, the best treatment we have right now is isolation quality. Know Cem off, like, you know, we have stayed home, not spreading the disease to the outside. People on dhe. Make sure we are. We are in the part off helping, um, you know, a normalizing the curl like, No. Were we supposed to prevent ourselves not spreading the disease? That is the best things we have. If I missed something, maybe Dr Risk and I had a few more points to this treatment.

spk_2:   16:03
No, I think so. You're right, Doctor Army, that we don't have any drugs right now at bay to help us. That's why if you don't have or if you have mild symptoms, don't go to the e. R. because they don't have said they don't have anything to help us. Well, if you have mild symptoms, they're going to send you home. You are exposing your taking the risk office, exposing yourself by going to the E R. And that's why I stay at home, because that's what they're going to do. They're going to send you home, and they're going to say the same thing. Self quarantine yourself, So stay at home. But let your health care provider know that you are dealing with these symptoms so that he will guide you. He or she will guide you in the best possible way.

spk_0:   16:43
But the one exception is like if somebody is feeling like shortness of breath that, like, you know, they have to take you cannot take breathing properly. So then you have to go to the emergency as soon as wasp Well, and they will put you to the ventilators like, you know, without ventilation, people cannot survive on breed. So right now, without ah ah knowing like no, we need ventilators like we're heading towards. The emergence is then what will happen like so we are straining the system like you know, we have to um, like, you know, we have to cause hammocks to the medical team under They have to spend a lot of time because some of the people right now in New York on some places that just you using the garbage bags for the mosque and you know, the prevent the spread of the disease and all these things, like in so much going on right now. So the best thing we can do help our system help our doctors make sure, like, no, we are not on the part of the problem

spk_2:   17:47
yet again. To reiterate that only go to the emergency or call 911 If you cannot manage at home your symptoms, that is, if you are unable to eat If you're unable to drink, if you are unable to keep any fluids down, no matter what you do, you cannot do like, be responsible. Go to the e d. Only if you do not you think that you cannot manage at home like if you have symptoms like flu like symptoms, you can manage that at home. Do not strain the sixth system. But if you think that all you cannot breathe no matter what you do. You're having a really hard time breathing. You're having really bad. Just pain. That's the time you need to go to the e D or call nine.

spk_0:   18:31
So, um, pastor, like, you know, so many people are asking me in a cage Guinness dot com Ah, one question like, ah ah, can we get the wireless tro postal mail? Our delivery boxes are, uh, when we shop in the produce like you know, we go to Walmart Target, we'll get some producer. Can we get the Corona virus? So first told me she wanted to answer this question like, you know, can we get the proposed to mail?

spk_2:   19:03
No, I don't think so. That is all one of the ways that you can get it. You, JJ would not get it through postal mail or delivery, but eggs, um, fresh produce, maybe. But wash the produce, as you do usually write. Wash the produce more nicely this time when you get the produce from outside. But after you come from the grossly make sure you wash your hands and then make sure that you do not take your whole family to the grocery store, you do not need to need to take your whole family if you don't. If you have someone taking care of your kids at home, you go alone. Get the things you want. Make a list of the grocery items See you need at once. Do you do not need to go 100 times and expose yourself 100 times? You do your part and you'll remain safe. A

spk_0:   19:52
few days back I was in a target, like, you know, trying to get a milk on. There are some families they're coming with. Children's like they have a small Children's to three Children and they're coming. This is not the vacation. Please don't expose. Don't go to shopping to get the produced with the whole family. You know, I understand. We have to stay at home. That doesn't mean we have to take our entire family to outside and expose and get the, you know, off symptoms and you know, then no. Then get panic. Don't do that. Like you know. Please stay home on Lee. One person goto shopping and get whatever you want. Just within a few minutes to grab it. And just ahead outside.

spk_1:   20:33
Very good points. This. You know this is incredible information. Um, as we start talking about, like you mentioned about, uh, the Children that were at the target store, you know, could you give us some insight here? Americans are are wonderful people, but Americans are are also very difficult to deal with when it comes to these kind of things. I was watching on many, many, many news cans. They were showing our young people they were at beaches, they were hanging out in the in areas and parties, and they were kind of scoffing at the virus. This was in the early stages of it hitting America. And now, of course, we're we're in an epidemic, but they the young people seem to think, and we really need some help on this. The young people seem to think that it's an old person's disease for an old person, and they are completely immune to it. Um, are are they at risk?

spk_0:   21:42
Yes, Um, most of my patients, that world of people like you know, uh um, So, David, uh, for example, if you take, like, 100 people after 100 if somebody having, uh underlying this is like, you know, somebody having hypertension damages cardio wrestler. This is like those are the people. Hi. Prone are high level. Ah, prone to get the corona virus like you know. So if they will get this disease on DA, you know, they will end up in nice to you because they're unable to breathe. And, you know, it is very difficult to breathe at what this wireless do. Ah, pasture. Like, you know, after giving the cough, fever and headaches and all these things at the same time, it will directly attack lands. Your lungs will collapse. You cannot take greeting. Then you had The doctor needs to put you in the ventilators, like you know. So we have very, very limited the number of ventilators. So, um, sometimes some. Some instances the doctor needs to pick a person. Okay? They're attacking people. They need ventilators like then they have to choose. Ah, the favorite patients to give the mental. It's the rest of the people will dies. And the only wanted to get the ventilators because we have very limited number of the ventilators. So, um, who's elderly people? Their hive prone in now, there is no studies proven like Children's are getting, Uh uh paranoia is. But there is the one instant in Michigan right now. Ah, one kid. I mean, under the nine years he got adenovirus on, we have almost, like, 60 onboard deaths right now in Michigan on there are 3000 people are infected in Michigan. There are a lot of testing is going on right now. You know, once you get tested, it will take 2 to 3 days to get the results. Until then, like you know, you sometimes you may not have symptoms sometimes. Like you have a depression anxiety. So many things like going on, like, you know, then suddenly some people say, like, you know, you are a Christian. You have afraid you know your own nothing will touch you like your anger command. You can do things like you can go toe Ah, shopping. You can go get the stuff that stuff like you know, So they will. They'll attempt tempt you with some nasty comments. But sometimes I'll say some people are so dumb, but they still can breathe. You know, it is very very Ah, you know the pity, sometimes looking thing like in their immune from the disease. But this this is there are a few section of the people, especially a little bit. Ah, there. Hi. Uh, prone to get this cardinal where it's like, you know, you have to be Be careful to expose ourselves.

spk_2:   24:40
I want to add that Yes, it is. The elderly people are at high risk. Yes, but no one is immune to this. Children can get it as again. I want to reiterate that this is a new wires and we don't know how it is going, how how it is affecting the world. Yet they're still many things that it is uncovering in China. It seems there were not many young people were affected by, but in us, it is showing a different Cenex. You, you're even young kids are being affected. And so no one is immune to this in us? No,

spk_0:   25:17
because a lot of for our end, Frank, it's lynch angle. Tiny's people, they have Ah, Austin Ma. They have hypertension. They have diabetes type two type one diabetes. So these are the condition will trigger the Cardinal Harris Ah, disease prone to paranoia disease. So you are not immune if you have underlying this is that there is a high possibility you end up in I c U that we've been senior ventilators on again. I'm telling you, if we're going to the you know, I see you, they have to do with the ventilation ventilators. There are very limited number of ventilators right now in our system like they cannot not everyone get into laters.

spk_1:   25:59
Wow, this is incredible information. You know, this is eye opening information as well, because, um, there's so many people. That's that's that they're watching different things. They're sharing different things, and everything they're sharing is contradicting something else that's being shared. So there's so much information out there, it's really staggering. So I'm glad that we have Not only do we have doctors on our show, but they are Christian, cause I know some people are even questioning if doctors are going to tell you the truth of things of this nature. But I wouldn't tell you about Dr Rami and Dr Fish. They attend our church, and they are incredible medical minds and their advisers, often to to us in our church and different talk shows that we do and we are so thankful. Believe they They are gifts from God So this information is so valuable. And before we close out today, would you guys be willing to come back for a part too? So

spk_0:   26:58
Ah, we can We can talk about the treatment part and, you know, right now they're our trenches going on about some people. They're using Lupus strokes, rheumatoid arthritis traits like a cloak queen and all the drugs. So we can talk about that in part two on some people. Ah, they're using hypertension drugs like it also, um, they have some concern and question support like they still can. If they have a journalistic and use hypertensive drugs under, they can get the prescription and all those things we can talk about in, ah, part to pastor. And ah, one more thing. I want to thank you, Pastor. Ah, the way before. Ah, the government off Michigan canceled the churches and ah, these things. You are the one I know. You're the one pastor who take Ariel church very well. Like you know, you can't, Oliver, Church service is on you. You You told all your church members, like stay holed money and we can We can ah do church in online and you know you did your part. Ah, you know, I really thank you for that.

spk_1:   28:07
Well, I thank you. That's so that's such an honor to hear from you, e really appreciate. And we're trying our best to do the right things and make the right decision. So all of you praying and and us And that's having wise people around us.

spk_2:   28:22
Yes, Rob Pastor, thank you so much for giving us the support opportunity. Because our main aim your was to help people to know the seriousness of the situation so that they can stay home. This is not a vacation. It is a time of reflection. And it is a time out. Currently, there are no vaccines. Currently, there is no medicine. There is no treatment for this. So be at home. And as governor of Michigan State's stays, stay safe and save lives. And thank you so much faster that you've really lead this really well. You have taken this really value of being wise and taken the decision for your church and for your members to be saved.

spk_1:   29:05
All you guys are So you're so amazing. And this program with you two doctors being so busy, there's no one busier right now. So for you to come on and get it and bring more awareness on this program, it just means a lot. And I want to thank you from all of our listeners. And I appreciate you coming back to do part two. We're hoping that part, too. We can cover. What do we do to tackle this Corona virus and talk about some treatments and some other things. So, everyone we want to thank our doctors for being on the show, and we're gonna be coming back with a part too real soon. So thank you. Doctors thinking, er and signing off today. This is Art Wilson, your goodwill ambassador. And we just think for what we're able to do with this podcast. So stay tuned for more shows and more programs in the near future. May we never be the same way? Appreciate you tuning in and invite you to review this podcast and share this episode on social media to help spread the good word