S1E13 - Morning Star

entitled morning Star. The air date was April five, two thousand sixteen, written by Pete Binswanger, one of our absolute favorites, directed by another one of our favorites, j miles Dale, and here we are in episode season one, episode thirteen, morning Star. The hunt is on Jace, who is still reeling from everything that happened, makes hunting down Valentine his number one priority, even though he continues to wrestle with his conflicted feelings in hopes of finding a way to

stop Valentine before it's too late. Clarie and Simon must find the key to unlocking Jocelyn's coma. But that key to unlocking jocelyn spell made just undo the down world or peace treaty, Simon's relationship with Raphael and the vampire clan in the process, who high stakes? Forgive my high stakes? Interestingly, like, this is the highest stakes that we've dealt with in season one, and you're like, where do you go from here? And then we come back with season two and we're like,

we'll show you gets much worse. We'll show gets fun Facts about episode thirteen season one. The finale shooting ran from September to October ninth, two thousand fifteen. Reshoots for the season were filmed after this. Did we have Did I have any reshoots? I don't think so, or did we We did? We added like four scenes at the end that we're throughout the season, and I don't know what.

I don't know if you had any more than just pick up shots, but I know I had a whole scene with Emerald that was added into like episode five or something, and and then Matt had a couple of scenes and it was Yeah, it was at the end of season one. We had to sort of revisit a bunch of stuff because they had the whole season by then, and they went, oh, wait, this piece of story is missing and we want to connect this relationship a little bit more, and we have five extra minutes in this episode,

and it all kind of just wove together beautifully. Wow, I had no IDEA morning Star is a reference to the meaning of German translation of Clary and Valentine's last names Morgan Stern Morgan meaning morning and Stern meaning star. This family is are so created. Its meaning to the Bible verse Isaiah fourteen twelve, which states how art thou fallen from heaven O Lucifer, son of the Morning? How art they cut down to the ground, which diss weaken the nation's I don't know if I got that right.

I hope I did. The first directly refers to Lucifer, the fallen Angel. Indeed, it does more on that. In season three, Clary says that Camille lives in a Leucard apartments, a Leucard Aleucard his Dracula spelled backwards. No, why did we not notice this? Not a clue? How did we not Clark that? I can imagine he just sitting in the writer's room like this is my fun little there, Yeah, how funny. Just completely mistakes he did. Yeah, he surely did. The only book to screen stuff we can talk about no,

there's there's actually some really interesting ones in this episode. Um. I don't know if you got this from the book stamp, but there actually is a boat that Valentine has his sort of arc of the Unholy Covenant as it were, that that is in the second book or I don't know if it's Valentine's. It's Valentine's boat, and then I think we take it over at some point. I can't remember.

There's a boat, but it's in book two, um, and we bring it into this episode and it it should have been season two for a for a hot minute, hot being the key word, and dangerous and just floating conductor with the impending lightning storm working its way like the fun thing about this So this boat is moored. Uh, well, actually we should talk about it when we reached the boat. Um, we'll talk about it. And I think I think next episode is better to talk about the book. Very possible.

So the Book of the White. Yes, the Book of the White is also directly from the books. And uh, there's a similar conversation between Jason Valentine as we've seen this episode, um in City of Ashes, which is booked too. But again, as we've seen in over and over again. In our series, our writers are very smartly taken key moments from the books and key plat points and sort of rearranged them and shifted them to make our plot

more conducive to television. Um, and it makes it more exciting for people that know the books cover to cover. I it does like I've got to do this two or three times where you make a choice as a character and nobody else is supposed to know your motivations. The audience is supposed to like draw their own motivations.

Had to do it, and Penny Dreadful I did it at the end of Shadow Hunters, and like I remember doing press for the finale because we were one of the very few Netflix shows that aired episodically, so it was week by week we had it wasn't a binge watching show. And it was interesting because I got a lot of questions when we were doing press about like, what are your motivations at the end of the season,

And I was like, that's for me to know. I know a miles nose, but that's kind of it, Like we and the writers obviously no, but like that's it. And I got to a similar thinking Penny, which is really cool. Where like his motives, Kurt's motives were known to myself and to John Logan, the showrunner, and that's kind of it. And I get asked about it a lot, what were his motivations? And I'm like, that's on you. You. The clues are there if you want to figure it out,

but draw your own assumptions. Any who, without any further ado and no more guilding, rely, shall we jump in or is there anything I missed? I don't think there's anything we missed because a lot of it I think is very spoilery. So we don't want to We don't want to dive into soon. Yeah. So we started out having just come off the shocking realization that none other than our beloved hot Hodge stark Weather is, in fact the traderist of traders, bastard bastard indeed, honestly was he

thinking it's wrong with you? Well, I mean, if you've been, you know, promised your freedom after decades of being trapped in the Institute, I think all of us after the pandemic, having been trapped in our houses, it's not that bad. If he'd have stuck it out till season two. The Institute actually got really nice. It wasn't such a nightmare.

In season two, he would have maybe he wouldn't have if we'd have left the traitor storyline season two, maybe it wouldn't have made sense because they're like, what do you mean you're trapped? This place is really nice, Like, don't worry about it, whereas in season one, you're like,

that place looks a bit of a nightmare. I get it, but we the shadow Hunters do not yet know that Hodges the traitor audience knows, but we don't, and Valentine knows, and maybe Jocelyn knows because I think she can hear while she's unconscious. I can't really remember what we landed on with that, but the audience doesn't know. So what we are left with, sorry, the audience does know, We

don't know. Uh, what we're left with is off the sort of reeling magnificence of the end of episode eleven and twelve, the big drum bombs that are dropped in those episodes. Bla la la, I'll get my lines right, um. Jason Clary are left to talk for the first time. They have some ship to work through because they were falling in love and all of a sudden their brother and sister and that's kind of gross. They have to discuss it. You, Yeah, Clary sort of drags Jace down

quasi memory lane. I say quasi because we know what happens later. But just in case you don't stay with us, Yeah, Cat tell us about what's going on here. So we're in Clary's bedroom and as if there wasn't enough emotional bag to deal with, Clari's like, hey, just so you know, um, I know you're sink. Our mom abandoned you and threw you out like yesterday's garbage, but she didn't. And also, here's a bunch of your old baby stuff. And now

they're sitting in Clary's bedroom discussing it. And as with Jace, he doesn't handle emotional situations very well, so he gets a bit cross. Well, well, well, I think this is somewhat the exception of this. Like he's furious. He's furious that he's been lied to, he's furious that is adopted parents because they were circle members. He's furious at his seemingly legitimate parents because he was abandoned and or raised slash tortured through the first ten years of his life.

And as he says, and I agree with him here as he says, you know, a little box of trinkets doesn't change the fact that you weren't there. Like, oh, that's well and good that you watched over me from a distance, But like I had to deal with all this ship on my own, like I was, you weren't there, And I understand why he's angry. Also fun little clue for the future. Um, we saw the hair right, there was a little like lock of hair in that little lock of blonde hair. It's the wrong color it is,

isn't it, you eagle eyed fans. It's much more I want to say, elizabe ethan, but maybe more tutor. Yeah, I I agree. I think it does have a very tutor esque hue. Who I thought? So wonder who mute? Who might? Honestly that sometimes my genius just amazes myself. It's crazy, right, it's crazy. Um, but we have to wait a whole another half season before any of those questions slash horrible clues that we just dropped get answered. Well, our lovely angels, if we gave you all the answers

right away, there would be no show. We have to leave something agreed, So now we go, look, we know the Book of the White is in Camille's possession, and as much as we all hate her, we got to talk to her. So who do we go to but our resident vampire Bridge, Simon Lewis Simon Lewis, Simon Lewis

with the answers, which I loved it. In this episode, Simon gets a chance to you know, even Jace acknowledges the fact that he has a role to play in this and that you know, we we Simon has a chance to do something, you know, somewhat begrudgingly, but yeah, totally. He says something here. I can't remember what it is,

I've watched it earlier, and it makes me laugh. He goes, you say, like, oh, looking for the Book of the Y and we found this clue and you hold it the bookmark up and he goes the bookmark of the White and Jason the back just goes, oh God, I hate you, but you are our only chance, so I'm gonna let this go. Bed really made me laugh. That

was really funny. Alberto is so good at like but Alberto is so good at it, like he knows he knows that Simon ryles up Jay Soon we really like plays with it, and it's really fun to do that stuff with him. But you're right, it's a nice moment that we get to acknowledge the new status that that Simon has within the down World. He gets to explore being like a dignitary, almost like an ambassador shadow Hunters

slash vampire ambassador. And it's a hint at this beginning that we see of this generation being the generation of shadow Hunters and down worlders. That colin the question all the ways that things have been done and the rules that have been played by everyone in the down World, and it's it's a little little whispered to the future. Let's of foreshadowing in this episode. My goodness, it's like it's a season finale shadowing in this episode. That's what

I was just about to say, the season finales. That's where you've got to start. You've got to start hooking fishies to bring them back in, you know what I mean, You've got to start hooking him. And that's what we're doing. That's what we're throwing lines out, left, right, and center. In the first act of this scene with Alec and Marri's absolutely breaks my heart because Alec is really trying to reach out and even he just gets shut down left,

right and center. You know what's interesting though, is this it's just good storytelling, like you need somewhere to go. Um and if they were both just kind of okay with it, there's no conflict. Also, like as terrible as it is, like this generational thing, I sort of get their position there. It's not what Maris says there which is interesting. Um, is it's got. It doesn't matter that it's that he's a guy. It doesn't matter that he's a male. That doesn't matter to me. The sexuality of

it doesn't matter to me. What matters is you're dating like this grand lothario that everyone in the in the world has heard of. And I sort of get that from a mother's point of view, I sort of get this like protective, But then I guess she's not being as protective of her son as she is the name, the Lightwood name, which is a little dastardly, But I choose to think that she's trying to protect him because that's sort of where we end up with her story.

I think she probably is. I just think she can't admit it yet, you know what I mean, Like there's a bit of her that she can't quite just needs a little time. And as you know, Robert Lightwood smartly says, which all of our parentals come become very questionable in the future. I'm just get bits of story back to me. But then, but the question is Lydia is missing. Yes,

poor Lydia has gone somewhere. We the audience know, We the audience know, but she fucking dumb shadow hunters don't know because we never know what's going on or where anybody is constantly losing people and things, and the most important items in the shadow world just go missing. So Alec, the hero that he is, is on the hunt, as it were, poor lost lady Lydia, and he finds her not only unconscious but missing the Mortal Cup, the most important of the instruments that we have Slash no of

because one of them we don't even know, right. We don't know what the mirror is, you know, we don't know what the mirror is. And the sword I think we know it exists, but it's no one really knows. We don't know it's an instrument. Yeah, we don't really know where it is at this point, Like these instruments are kept under Lack and Key brothers have it. Oh, that's right, that is the sword. So the sword is kept because they poked you in the face in the

episode two. That's right. And yeah, so we know where the sword is and but it's kept under Lack and Key. The cup has been missing forever, but now we have it, and now you know Big Bad has it. And the mirror is a bit of a legend at this point. It's no one really knows if it exists or what it actually is, to be figured out later on in season two. Indeed, we have lydia utter Any thanks to a graciously graciously placed painting. One of those one of

those fortuitous things. I love how we're all still dressed for the wedding. It's so funny. It's like, you know, we never see the Shadow Hunters stopped to shower or eat or cheated. We do see them eat once, but not until season three. We do. We had a breakfast scene in season three, that's right, and I think the only I think that's why they only put it in once, because it was a disaster, Like they kept feeding me bacon. We're gonna get Drew Potter in at some point, who

was a camera operator and I he was. I could see him like chuckling behind the camera because I had a real issue with I was like talking and I just couldn't get bacon in my mouth for some reason. I've been doing it for you know, almost thirty years at this point, and I just couldn't get it in my face. So I kept missing and dropping bits and then they'd have to come and wipe like bacon off. It was a whole night, probably why we didn't do very many eating scenes. But here we are, back at

the monitor. We've got is on the on the case, trying to figure out clickity clack, where Valentine is and what actually happened because we know Hodges missing, and this is where all Hodges missing? Whoa do we know Hodges missing? Yet we know no one? We must Yeah, we know no one has seen him and we can't find There we go. We did a little I assume there's some kind of inner Colm got it. There we go, you know, paging Hodge to the missions control center, paging Hodge to um, Yeah, right,

that's how it works. He sure didn't, I think so? Yeah, I mean it's never really been alluded to. We just sort of turn up where we needed. But yeah, then we get to see, you know, a badass John Core doing this thing. Unfortunately for nefarious reasons. This was one of my favorite episodes with him because we we got to like watch him train a couple of times, but I wasn't part of it, And then I wasn't there the day with the Forsaken either, because I was off

somewhere else doing a Jason and John is. John came in as this like incredibly talented martial artist, and I know for a fact since then has has progressed even further as a gymnast and as martial artist. But he it like got to like I got to play with him for the first time in this episode and it was like, Wow, I'm really being put through my place

paces here like this. This guy's really talented. But we get to touch on the sea the ring, which we talked about last episode, like wait, how did he get the ring? Oh? Wait a minute. As always is the case of Valentine, nothing happens by a mistake. That random forsaken attack not a mistake. The fact that he was so easy to take down also not a mistake. It was all planned and he wasn't even that easy. It

was actually quite difficult. He leveled the challenge for the amount and the talent of shadow Hunters that was inside the institute. And there it is, fights forsaken steals a ring. Hodge, how could you, buddy? How could you it too? We loved you, man, I mean, we all know from this last couple of years that you trapped someone in a house for too long. We all go a little stir crazy,

make decisions that we maybe regret. Who knows. Yeah, well there's stir crazy, and then there's giving the nuclear launch codes to Hitler, you know what I mean. Like, there's a balance there, and I think Hodge stepped over the line personally. I don't know if Valentine is a Hitler. I don't know if that's a parallel we want to make here, but not big bad, big bad key. Yeah, And here we are at the boat. Fucking boat, this boat. Man.

So here's what you should know about the boat. There's so much happened on this but so much happens on this boat. So yeah, must have been at the end of this season and at the beginning of season one it was hot. So the top of this boat is like a big just a big like a radiating Well this was October, oh so this was this was the cold day. This is when it was really golden. It was cold, right, remember hearing that wasn't there that day. Yeah,

it's very very cold. But interestingly, so this shot where we come up and the boat is on is moored at the at the dark. That's how the boat always is. It's decommissioned, it doesn't it doesn't sail anymore ever. Um so the boat is always in one place. Whenever you see that boat out in the water, it's fully c g I. They just put it out there. So we had and it was a whole of the boat was a whole nightmare. When you had to get two background on.

There was literally one little staircase up theside, which you can actually see in the shop when you see the big wide of the boat. That was the only way to get on and off this boat. It was freezing cold and it's it's I was going to say parked, it's not parked. It's moored on one of the great lakes, Lake Ontario, which is this massive, massive like it looks like an ocean massive. So you are just completely at the mercy of the elements, like, if it was raining,

you're gonna get rained on. If it's snowing, you're gonna get snowed on. And as we find out in season two, if lightnings are coming, you just get to watch lightning are coming and you get to see it get closer and closer. Just a bit of something. I noticed, this is a giant vat of blood that Valancine has just just sitting just sitting on there. Does it have to be angel blood? I think it does. I mean, that's

a bit of a thing. But I never thought about that's I mean, maybe it's deluded angel blood because that's a lot of it's a lot of blood. It's a lot of blood. But also Valentine's killed a lot of shadow Hunters, so that kind of makes sense. That's true, and I guess you couldn't exaglinate person you kill. He also says, which I think was quite fun in this scene. He says, I'm going to use this cup to purify this blood, and it goes like a yellow ea color,

and I'm like, I don't know if that's pure. I don't know if that's better, Like if my Britta filter purified my water and it went yellow. I'd be like, mm, excuse me, refund please, this is not probably time to change the filter at that. But this is so this This really speaks to Allan's kind of prowess at playing

just a great nuanced villain. But there's such a brutality to Valentine and such a cunning to him as a battle strategist because yeah, he's yeah, Hodge has provided him the key that he needs, all well and good, but he owes Hodge nothing in his mind because Hodges found to be a trader and known to be a trader. So why would you want a trader on your team if the thing isn't they have this like the bad guys.

I've always said in Anything and I, my favorite movies with a villain are the ones whether like you there's a part of you that kind of agrees with the villain, Like there's sort of an element where you are like, yeah, I get it, Like it's dreadful, but I kind of get it though, um, and he's sort of one of them. He's like, you want to rid the world of demons in your willing to go however far for that to be the case, And you're like that's obviously not the

way to do it. Like, that's obviously not how it should be done, but like, isn't that what we're trying to do, a shadow answers, we're trying to kill the demons and keep the down world safe. Obviously he's overstepping by getting rid of the down world as well, and but it's that tricky balance of like we're actually fighting for the same thing, we're just doing it drastically different ways.

And that, I think is what's so cool about this is there's like there are these elements and again, this is what reminded me about it in this scene is like Hodge comes up and he's like, well, I'm gonna be part of your team now, and he's like, no, you're a traitor. I don't want to traitor as part of my team. And that's how Jason wuld react, That's

how Alc would react, Like it's the same thing. There there is a world in which you can be you know, rehabilitated, I guess if you've done something wrong at some point, but if you're a traitor, you're a traitor. Like I don't think Jason is going to trust Hodge again. You know what I mean like you're a traitor and that's kind of the end of it. Um, so again kind of get it. Yeah, and Hodge has this horrible realization that he thought he'd just gotten his life back, but

his life is over. There is nowhere for him to go, nowhere for him to run, nowhere for him to be safe. Ever,

he piste off everybody. Yeah, and again it goes back to a reputation and honor is such a big thing in the Shadow World, and once you lose that, you lose that for good, which is interesting because considering that's again that's why I think in season four Jason Clary would have had such an interesting arc because both of them had kind of not of their own will, but had destroyed their credibility in a way, and they were the only two people that understood that kind of pain

and guilt and frustration with being burdened with a guilty conscience that wasn't of your own free will, and you know, having to to reprove themselves to the Shadow world. But anyway, I digress, we'll talk about that later. Any who exactly, that's for later episodes. This brings us neatly to uh, sort of the initial separation of Clary and Ja so

Jason's motivations. I was just rewatching this and I'm like, he's so upset and I'm curious why it turned to Clary, and I'm because he could have used her as like a confidence and whatever. I think the two things that are in my head I had sort of bring myself back to where I was in that moment. The two things that were in my head were one, I really don't even want to look at you right now, Like I had feelings for you and that's weird, And I

don't want to be around you because that. I'm still sort of dealing with that, and too, this like anger, resentment, jealousy that like you you although Valentine wasn't there, your father wasn't there, which I suppose long long, you know, long game, that's a good thing. But you still had

your mother, your biological mother. You had your sort of adopted father, you know, surrogate father in in and I think there's this element of like, you really don't get it because I was raised by the other side of

that coin. You were kept away from this. I was beaten and broken into it and didn't and then come to find out that not only were they not my parents, but they were my parents and you know this whole thing and it was so that I think is an element of where this anger is coming from, where it's like why you don't get it? And that's really frustrating, like you don't understand where this is. Anyway, as you mentioned, Jay doesn't deal with his emotions very well. He packs

up his gear and he's going on the hunt. He's ready there, he's ready for blood handful some height say oh you honeyman, you and it's it's this is the beginning of something else for Jay's that he deals with quite a lot going forward, which is this questioning of what is what part of him is Valentine? And what how does being Valentine's son? You know, what kind of effect does that have on who? Here? Maybe that is where his hot headedness and his propensity for violence and

his skill comes from, but at what cost um? And that, Yeah, that sort of ends up being the congruent through line throughout a lot of Season two for Jasons, that question of like who am I? Basically isn't that what we all just wanted in the end? Who am I? Who

am I? But you know, where do we go, except we give we give Luke call because again, I love seeing this in this episode that we have so much to do with coming together with the down World in this and using the down World and these alliances that we formed essentially also maybe you know, destroying them in the process, but we will get to that later. But yeah, that's later this episode and then a whole bunch just throughout the rest of the show. But Luke is on board.

I also love this moment that Isaiah has where he's like Hodge Stark Weather, find him, hunt him down, find him. I want him a lot. He has this voice, he has this like presence. Isaiah does stuff sometimes on set and you're just like and you just kind of watch it happen, and then you're like, a shoot, I was supposed to say something or do something. I'm pretty sure didn't do it. I was just watching Isaiah over there, which is I just messed up whatever it was. But

he does. He has these moments of like gravitas where it really does. You're just like, Wow, that's awesome, that's really cool. You're like, oh, you're you're the leader of the pack. Anyway, Oh this is now, sorry, it's it's so funny. I forget how much in our show because we have so many storylines were constantly jumping around as things are happening concurrently. So now we have the scene where Alan goes by Felicia and sends sends Hodge out to pasture as it were, into the wilds of New

York City. He's in trouble, which brings us neatly to the I guess like the vampire deliberation, like I'm and is kind of with Rafael, and then is he and Clary needs some things. This this sort of vampire like I don't even know how you put it, Like, what's a good word to describe this, because it's not just a meeting. It's more powerful than that, like summit. It's like a vampire summit. It's it's yeah, it's just some it's about summit with the vampires. It's it's I love it.

I love to call this Simon the Negotiator Part two. Yeah, because we saw it earlier when Jay's needed blood. Now it's happening again, much to Rafael's chagrin. But also what I love here is you get a little bit of foreshadowing of the Clary and Isabelle partnership that happens throughout the series. So the first one of the first times we see these two team up, and it's a it's a nice It's poor Rafael. He doesn't even know what he's in, what's coming. The girls will take care of it,

so much more responsible than the girls. They do such a better job at shadow hunting than like Alec and I, who are constantly losing things or like dying, oh wait, or not dying. Nice covered my us, well done, dumb, good job, nice almost dying, putting ourselves at risk of potentially dying. That's good, That's very good. Which leads us to the scene that I was so I was talking about earlier, and I was so excited to talk about this,

this fight scene with John Corps. I'm glad we got rid of the like jewel lightsaber deal because I think that looked a little As fun as that was to train with, I think it looked a little ridiculous, but a lot of fun on the day. Hard work when you're hitting. I can't remember what these things were called that he fought with sur Akens maybe sort of siddy, sure is it? I don't actually know. Oh no, Shurakin's a throwing stars. That's wrong. It's it's for those who

haven't seen it. It's kind of like an axe without the handle, you sort of hold onto the middle of the axe blade sive type situation. I typed in glade because that was in my head, but that's not it either. I don't know. Anyway. We got to film this scene in weirdly actually the place where we did our first ever promo shoot for the show. We did it. It's in the same place, except we were here at like four in the morning filming this, so it's freezing cold. Um and John was such a trooper and he just

like dove into everything. It was awesome and we really got to have this first like Master versus Master fight, which was really cool, like two people who like are the best at what they do and very much evenly matched, and really what what the reason Jace wins is? He kind of breaks the rules of engagement, like he there's you know, he's one, he's sort of beaten and then

cut his hand off. Brutal. Brutal for Luke Skywalker mode brutal. Yeah, it just goes to show how kind of unhinged Jace is and how much he's started a question everything, and he's and it It's it's a little terrifying because you sort of go, what is Ja's willing to do in order to, you know, to exact his his own kind of revenge in this moment and sort of make right all of these things. I also, something I forgot is

how acrobatic this fight actually is. And I mean that's a testament to to you and John, but really, Jamie, don't see a lot of fights like this. On this day. I trained and I got it correct. The big one is the backflip off the wall. I trained, and I got it to a place where I was happy with it. And then we got there on the day and we've been filming for ten hours already, and they just went, look,

it's freezing cold, it's solid concrete underneath you. If something goes wrong, then the rest of the shooting day is done. I was also quite tired at that point, and I was like, fair enough, Jamie can do this one, um, And Jamie makes it look much more professional than I do anyway, So I was happy with it. But John, I think did all of his stuff. I'm pretty sure this day John did all of the flips and twists and back flips and all that fun stuff. I'm pretty

sure that's John would not surprise me. Also, um something else. That hand goes flying and you actually see it's so rare in the Yeah, it actually goes nuts. So John, this was really tricky and this took some real trust on John's part. I had to be really careful with this. So he is holding the prosthetic by the wrist underneath the sleeve of his hands. He's holding it like this right like that there. So I have this space to hit.

And obviously it would be better to hit like the hand and then the hand goes flying off than it would be to hit John's hand and do some damage. But to make it look correct, you have to slice through that very very small gap there. And I remember he would hold it as still as he could, and I would just sort of almost like a golfer, like I would line up this perfect swing to go through and then get to that point. And then as soon as I'm through, then it's like the performance comes back.

I get to act into it again. But that the whole until I've hit it, I'm just like, don't cut off John's fingers, don't cut off John's cut off the fake fingers as attached to a fake hand. Don't touch the real hand even though that's attached to the fake hand. Just do just straight lined on this all you gotta do. And that's what we did. And I think we did it twice. And the first one I was too too scaredy, and I like, I think I hit the top of the fingers of the fake hand and it just didn't

look great. It looked like the hand just tumbles off. And then I think the second one, of the third one, we got this and we were like, that's the one. Let's not do it again. Let's not risk anyone's, anyone's fingers because as we find out, actually these ones weren't as bad. They still hurt when you got hit, but like season two, when you got hitting the fingers, that was that was rough. They were. I loved those swords. That was split knuckles city, Yeah, split knuckles, a couple

of fraction bones every now and then, brutal. I loved them. Occupational hazard a little known fact that I don't know

if you remember, dumb um. I was not on set for the majority of this day, but this was actually Matt d. Daria's birthday and This was the day that I don't know if you remember, we all snuck onto set and snuck into Matt's trailer and created out happy birth thing and sent him a video because he wasn't do you remember that, Because he wasn't in his trailer on lunch and we were all going to surprise him, but he was somewhere else, so we just had to

make him a video, which then some ended up somewhere on social media. There the one where you'll you'll pretended to be dead in his trailer as well, and you can get it right, Everyone started laughing, Yeah, we're asleep. Maybe we're just trying to be you know, as as fun times, you know, straight as a Matt Dadario himself. But we couldn't have it. Yeah, uh, only Matt can do that. It's a real it's a real change, can't

We can't do the dead Matt. We can't. So the end of this scene leads to a handless arrested Hodge and a still fairly single minded Jace. Using said hand from now handless Hodge, he finds himself a Seli ring, a Celia communications ring, which can only communicate to the other ring, right it can, so he knows who he's calling. Yeah. Um, so with this ring, he finds himself face to face once again, not quite in the flesh, but close to Valentine.

A somewhat morbid foreshadowing promises that I am coming for you, and I'm going to make you regret the choices that you've made. And what's interesting about this as well, a little bit of mythology, is that no one else can hear Valentine in this moment, only only the possessor of the ring. They can hear your side, but I have a feeling you're keeping it rather hush hush, and you know they're dealing with well TV hush hush, like three

or four paces away, complete silence, completely. There's no shadow Hunter expert hearing room, and were wolf ears are not a thing at this moment. Yeah, not until we use them for the first time. We write them into the cannon. That's so far We're wolf hearing is cannonless. It's not part of our cannon. It's not part of our story as of yet, is it. No, we haven't used it in season one. Now we have Isabelle the distractor at her finest. Isabel being distracting as the Isabel that we

first met in episode one. She does a wonderful job distracting any well. I was going to say, any warm blooded creature couldn't help but stop and stare. But apparently not just warm bloody creatures, because Raphael caught himself catches himself being a little allured by the loveliest another. A little bit of foreshadowing, isn't it. I know? Wow, we really did drop them all in in this episode, didn't we.

Well done, Pete Swinger, Oh, I have to tell okay, now we have Simon pushing a car then through the hotel to morrow. I got to talk about this coffin for a minute. I don't. I'm sure you've been, you know your vampire days, you've been in a coffin or two. I had never been inside a coffin before, and I was curious, nervous, wondering what it was going to be like. I was fine, completely fine with all of it until I accidentally shut my eyes once before they closed the lid.

So then I opened my eyes and I was shut in the coffin, and for some reason, not seeing the lid closed what made all the difference, And and the sound inside of the coffin because it's all padded, right, so you just feel enclosed and a little bit underwater, and it's not great. I'll put it that way. I'm not I'm not thinking no, I don't like it. I'm not thinking that that's where I want to end up,

you know, eventually, not my choice. It's such an irrational fear because the concept of it happening is so slim, but being buried alive is a real fear. Like that's a real Like I have that nightmare. At least once

a year. I have the nightmare and I wake up with the sweats of like I'm good, I can get out and everything's fine, like what I remember once I had that nightmare and I woke up with my sheets like over my head and the panic like full screwt like and then the sheets came off and I was like, I'm fine, everything, I'm good. I'm fine. But a little bit of a week came out. And that's going to be the promo for this episode. I can almost guarantee it. Yeah,

probably is probably this. God so this this takes us So Rafael. Rafael slips is the clutches on his way to to stop the impending doom of Clarie and Simon, which leads us to Alec and Luke, which again is this is what we keep talking about on this on this show, and what we used to talk about his actors when we were in the show. Fucking hell, the shadow Hunters are useless. He literally comes over to Luke to say, we just gotta keep bar eyes on jas

there's something wrong with Jason. We just gotta keep our eyes on him no matter what and make sure that he's good. Turn around Scooby Doo star and they're like, huh, where did we go? They appeared with this beard? Useless, completely useless. Jase does it all the time as well. Completely useless, honestly, but it works for the story. So you know what, I'm into it. I'm into it. Buy it. And now we're back to Simon and Clary about to

unleash Camille. Interestingly, this was the last scene that Alberto. This was the last scene that was shot in season one. Um, Alberto and I jumped in a car. You came from this to New Yeah, yeah, we met you all at the airport to fly to New York Comic Con right after shooting this scene. Wow. But interestingly enough, there she is Camille. He said, WHOA, all right, calm down. You know they say people wake up cranky sometimes, but this is a whole that. Honestly, I just watched this and

it's scared. I knew it was happening, but I think I was like looking away or whatever, and I looked up just as she came up, and it scared the shit out of me because I forgot that it was quite so like directly into camera. It was so drastic. So you guys chat about listen, lady, give us the book. That's enough out of you. Just give us a book. And she says, no, take me with you. Not like that. That's why I didn't get this role when I auditioned for Camille, because that's how I did it. Take. I

think you're a better I think so too. Something interesting about this as we get into the concept of the vampire sire situation, which we don't We don't play into a lot until season two, be I believe when certain other characters entered the story who we come to love verily as humans, um as a character, but as a person, as a character as much, but as a person absolutely. But it's this concept of whatever vampire turns a creature,

a human into a vampire. They are that that new fledgling vampire is drawn back to their and linked forever to that other vampire. Which it just it's another nail in the coffin for lack of a better pun. For Simon that he is forever linked to Kneel in the same way, sort of paralleling Jason Clary forever being linked to Valandine for now. Also John Cole, what an absolute legend.

So we this kind of what happened this day? Um, we find Jason and and Hodge in what looks like an abandoned warehouse because it is in fact an abandoned warehouse. This is Studio one B. Before it was Studio one B, it was just a storage room for like metallic equipment next to our studio. And come season two we bought it and turned into The Hunter's Moon and Jade Wolf and a whole bunch of other stuff, which is right.

But this day and I can't remember what happened, but they came to me this day and they went, hey, man, something's changed. We're going to film this scene today. And I was like, what do you mean, because you know, we prep like we put work into these ahead of time, and this was scheduled for sort of a week later or whatever, and in my head, I was selfishly thinking about me, and what I should have been thinking about is like, poor John Core is about to do a

scene where he's getting tortured. You're just gonna throw this in. And he threw himself into it so thoroughly. His stump, for lack of a better word, that prosthetic hadn't been made yet, so they just folded up some like paper around his arm and drew blood on it. And that is what this is, like, it's not the prosthetic that that's how quickly we rolled into the scene. And John just does such an amazing jobs. He's this like powerhouse

performer and he does this incredible job. But what's interesting is it come It has come from nowhere, Like there's no prep that went into this. There's no like even just like when you're acting, you sort of put yourself in the mindset of like I have a light scene coming up, or like this is a love scene, romance, that's what I have to do, or like this is a fight scene, Get into that place, or like this

is a death scene, get into that place. You just sort of put your mindset from the beginning of the day roughly where you're going to be. And he had to pull this out of his ars, and I think he does an amazing job pulling this golden performance out of his bottom indeed. But you know, that's part of the course with John Core leaving us with the location

of Valentine. But I have a feeling that Valentine doesn't want to looks like it takes us back to sneaky, sneaky Simon looking through his little, his little cross shaped window, not to be taken any further than twenty ft before he has stopped by Raphael. The question then is who could possibly save the day? Somebody? Surely que Isabella word. Oh no, she doesn't shoot arrows. She does it's a podcast, so nobody saw me do that. It's oh yeah, that's

what she does a little friends. This is like a massive air blast of the wall as well as that they yeah, they did so the wall. I believe it was they had changed out some bricks for foam bricks sort of. I think it was. Actually you know when flower arrangements, when you have that green stuff at the bottom, that's like the really thick phone. I believe it was that.

And then I don't exactly know how they did it with practical effects, but they blew the wall up basically but safely, and then through the wall walks the sexy Isabelle, lightwood and true glamorous, graceful fashion, bringing the daylight with her, bringing the daylight with her, which seems to take weight. Wasn't it just nighttime where Jace was? We can say it was dawn. We can say it was dawn, the coming of dawn. Let's let's call it dawn. We'll call

it dawn. But that it's interesting because that does answer our question from last episode about the daylight and the vampires in our world, because it's it would not be the ambient daylight then that gets them. They would have to be in a direct beam of light in order for it to because that this this light comes in, but it kind of cuts a separation, allowing our heroes and slightly questionable villain type to get away. It does

answer our question. Very good um taking us to a little walk and talk in a hallway that we have used before and I'm sure we'll use again. I think episode five, episode five we used this in when we were escaping the police station. We were underground. It's a little walk and talk hallway seven, but we was at seven, but we went the other way. We were walking the other way. So they're very it could be it could be a completely different different. Oh yeah, because yeah, it's brilliant, brilliant,

what wonderful stuff which takes us to Magnus's apartment. Camille, Magnus, Simon, Clary and Izzy are all in Magnus's apartment and I can't remember why, well, because we have to find the Book of the White So we're questioning. We're questioning Camille. She must have said something. I think she does. I think she does say like I need to see Magnus Spain. We're like, all right, fine, fine, what other errands do

you need to run? Camille? Do you need? Like, honestly, you know, any excuse, any excuse to go and see the wonderful Magnus Spain. Were like, let's do let's do that sounds great? We don't. He is another one. It's so interesting that we don't just any time we need to go somewhere or do something, we're not just like, hay, Magnus, You're literally all powerful can you just do this thing

for us please? Like any time we needed to like find something or like destroy something, like we never we never just went like, hey man, could you would you mind just sort of giving us a hand somewhere, you know? Yeah, but that brings us to a really lovely um oh, because this is what it is. Because Camille demands from Simon a writ of transmutation in order to help us. And that's that's that's a big thing. I mean, so

the rid of transmutation. Basically, because Camille broke the accords by transforming Simon into a vampire, she is now yeah, this writ of transmutation exonerates her, and basically Simon is literally signing his soul away and saying, I asked Camille to turn me into a vampire. And so it takes away any bargaining power that Simon has, and it also you know, forces him to sort of claim this as something he wanted, which is not it's not easy to do, nor is it right in any sense of the word.

But as we see time and time again, Simon, being the hero that he is, chooses to to take it on for Jocelyn, for his mom, and for the rest of the shadow World. Um, you know, let me see a little glimpse of short, redheaded, bad tempered Frey going, yeah, I'll hold her down if you want to steak her. It's fine, let's do it. But you know, Simon does

the right thing once again. Alec turns up poorly timed bless him, just in time for tricksy, mischievous Camille to start pulling it some heartstrings there, to start leaving some threads of cliffhangers, some cliffs to be hung on. She starts leaving them by slapping a big old kiss on her ex boyfriend, Magnus pain brutal right in front of his current boyfriend Alec Lightwood. Unacceptable. Community's some really poorly

timed kisses in this show. You know, it's just or well timed, depetting on how you look at it, or yeah, well that's the thing. It really does depend on on your sort of position there. All about perspective. But there's something about this, these ancient beings and these downworlders that have existed for hundreds and hundreds of years and have this immortality. There's a gravitas to them, but as well as a a frivolity to some of their decisions. Because

they do have all the time in the world's a mischief. Yeah, like it's a real mischief because it because who care. It's like, if I make this mistake, it doesn't really matter because I'm gonna live forever. Literally by definition, if you're going to live forever for an entire eternity, you're gonna make every mistake because it's eternal, Like eventually, you're going to make all the mistakes. So just get this

one out of the way. I sort of get this, like this weird capacity for immortality where you're like, it doesn't matter, literally, nothing matters. It doesn't matter. And it makes sort of all of the immortals, Camille Magnus, the Seely Queen, it makes them all quite tricksy, It makes them all quite sort of mischievous, is really is the best word for it. And Magnus is really the only one that we're like, we like your mischief. You're quite

good fun. We like you. You're well meaning, you're good hearted, you care about other people. The others are really just like mischief for mischief's sake, and we'll take advantage of us lowly mortals along the way. Which speaking of lowly mortals, you have. It's actually it's it's not used to start to see this transition, even as short lived as it

is in Alecan Clary's relationship. It's you get to see why they butt heads because they both have the same want to, you know, love and protect Jace, but go about it in very different ways. And and this is one of a few instances where we actually get to see them on the same page of going. Oh, no, Jason is on the war path. We gotta find him. We've got to stop him before he makes a bigger

mistake than he is aware of. Totally, totally, totally speaking of jays making mistakes, the handless stumbling Hodge is dragged to where we think the boat is. It's now daytime, so I'm assuming it was dawn when we got him, only to find no ship, no Valentine, and throws Hodge against the shipping container. Was it necessary? We all think so? Um So, the plans have been criss crossed. At this point, Jason was on the path. He was going to turn up a Valentine and do whatever it takes to stop

this man from doing what he's doing. Unfortunately, Valentine's cotton on to Jason's plan disappeared and is going after his friends. Run Run, Run. A fun story about this, right, So, in true bad guy fashion, So Kinsey, Alex Kinsey, who wrote the music for this and there's an incredible musician. You should check it out wherever you are, was here this day. He was here, when he was here when we film this, and watched take after take of me sprinting as fast as I could to get to where

we were going. And finally they say, yeah, we're done with that scene. We're gonna move on. And Alex goes, you're done with that scene, right, and I go yeah, man. He goes, okay, good because you kind of make a funny running face. And I was like what. He was like, you make a funny running face. I guess not a big deal, but you make a funny face when you run. I just didn't want to tell you and put you off like whilst you were doing it, but like I was laughing about it, and I was like, wow, okay.

And as soon as he finished saying that, miles from behind me and I think Pierre from behind me go hey, man, we just need to do one more and I'm like, oh no, now I'm fully in my head and I see Kinsey like sink. He's like, oh no, this is so embarrassing. And I did another take of it and I'm very obviously like not like intentionally not trying to pull the face as I'm running, and they were like that. Everyone was sort of like that was really weird. We're

not going to use that. And I think all of the running got cut out of the got cut out of this show because of this super embarrassing, super super embarrassing. But there you go. It happens to the best. At least you didn't trip, you know, I've I've had several of those where I just fall, not yet not running. No Paris. Actually I had a little trip in Paris,

but not onto my face. But it's a fun transition from like sprinting badass, going to be the hero to like, oh dumb, I'm just stumbled and I look at more on This moves us quite neatly onto the stage, whether it's this room or another room, the stage for sort of the finale of what's about to happen for our season one. And it's interesting, you know, when you film stuff like this, we don't know if we're getting a

season two. Sometimes shows are very lucky and they get told ahead of time, um, that they're going to get another season, which I think. Actually, we were told season two to season three that we have been picked up, were we not. Yeah, we are told season two to season three that we did right. Yeah, we got told on set, which was nice because then we were able to sort of find our lives and have a bit

of assurance going into our break. But this time we didn't know for exactly six months, eight months, something like six months, six months to the nose, six months. And I know why it was six months because it was that was the contractual stipulation. So they when you join

a show, they have you for a certain amount of time. Um, you know, you sign a contract for six years, seven years, whatever it is, so if they want to continue making the show, contractually you're obliged to go and continue making the show. An absolute dream come true for an actor, so it's not a big deal. You know, you sign

away your life, that's totally fine. In between seasons, part of your contract says they have a certain amount of time to tell you that you're coming back or not coming back, and after that amount of time, the contract is their null and void. And either if they wanted you back, you'd have to resign another contract and renegotiate, or you're done with the show and you contractually do

not have to come back. They I think To the Week took their full six months to tell us because the contractual cipulation was six months, and I think it was to the Week because I was in London between us. I was in London auditioning, like I was. I was going out for other stuff because I was like, it's been five and a half months, and the podcast audience exactly, but like it's been five and a half months, Like

it's not looking great, let's just leave it. But they, you know, told us later on that they had had this plan forever. But where anyway, I digress. When you film scenes like this, you don't know if this is you telling the last thing that's going to happen in this story, Like we don't know, we have no idea. So in theory with us, this is like we're saying

this is Jason Clary's final goodbye. And it's a weird place where you're in because you want to and you hope that this is going to be the case that you're going to continue but you just don't know, like you just have no idea. During this scene, Clary and Simon very cleverly find a book of the White indeed disguised quite wonderfully as a cookbook. An they're called back to the books. It is that chicken catdatory is um

a big thing in the books. It's Simon's favorite recipe that Jocelyn makes and Clary makes it later, and it's sort of a thing that they share as a reminder of where they came from. And you know, especially considering Simon's human for a lot longer in the books, they get to live it out a little bit longer. But it's interesting, so much used to him now. I also wonder if this is a sort of another iteration of

Jocelyn and Clary's shared power of disguising things in drawings. Um, whether this was sort of a or or just a regular glamour, I'm not sure, but it's another sort of shadow huntry wink and nod to dot who we missed very dearly. Mm hmm um. Valentine shows up. Bad news bears. It's not great. Valentine shows up with his cronies. He has everyone held tied up swords to the throat. I'm

actually pretty sure, which I think is really clever. They have magnus hands tied because the question again, like we were talking about earlier, is like why doesn't Magnus just snap his fingers and do something? But his magic has tied to these motions that he does, you know, and they have his hands locked so he can't move his hands to do what he needs to do with you know, the magic thing that he does. Um, which I thought was a clever little like, Oh, we've sort of taken

care of that question there, which is good. Um. Valentine gives Jason choice, come with me, be the lieutenant in my new the world is going to end army or lose your friends. Not really much of a choice there. It's not much of a choice in my head. Again, it's one of those things that we never really we never really discussed and told to the audience. But the show is over now, so I'm going to tell you,

um explosive. The question was always did Jason leave because there's a part of him that knows he has Valentine's son and that's where he belongs. Which is there that thought is in the back of his head? Or did Jason leave because he knows he can be the spy now completely completely exonerated in Valentine's eyes, and get the

up back. Those were the two things going through Jas's head, and the way I thought about it when I was him, when I was when I was stood there in that room and I was looking at my father, and I was looking at my best friends and the woman I love, It was in my head, I'm going to take the cup. I'm gonna kill this man. This threat is going to be over. My friends are gonna be safe, the human world is going to be safe, the down world is

going to be safe. And I wonder if this darkness, if this anger, if this emotional fragility, I wonder if the answers lie with him. I wonder if I'm going to have these questions that I've had for the rest of them, for the large portion of my life, answered by this man. So there is that was his motivations. Either way, he says a semi tearful goodbye, or maybe asked a manyana as to the way to go to his friends, to his family, and leaves with the big

bad Valentine. And this is there's another again, so many nods in this a lovely nod to the Parabatae relationship and Alec. You know, Jason knows Alec and knows enough to go, I mean it, don't don't try and and what is so he would sense that motion, He, like Alec, has made the decision, like you have to prethink about

whatever it is you're going to do. And you know, right before his synapses fire and his legs, his fast twitch muscle fibers, they're ready to go, and right before they fire, Jay senses it and goes, no, seriously, don't, don't I mean it because he knows that that's what's

about to happen. Yeah, And what's lovely about that is Alec takes it even a step further and takes over for Jason in a way as the leader of this group, but also as Clary's protector because he then knows, okay, Jason wants Clary to be safe, wants her taking care of She's going to need someone now that she doesn't have Jace, and he also knows that she's going to go running after him with reckless abandoned because that's what

Clary does. And he literally catches her from jumping into limbo from diving into you know, unknown realms of nothingness, nothing, and it's it's such a lovely turn where Alec has pushed her away for so long and for Jason and for this, you know, this relationship that he doesn't ever know if he'll see his parabita again. He's taking over and taking care of what is his as well. And that's it's a really beautiful moment that we you know, we don't, we don't, We don't see that sort of

that side of Alec a lot. And again, who is the first person to rush to Clary? It's so lovely, Yeah, yeah, Um, we're back at the institute. Jase has gone. Nobody knows where. I know where because I've led him and I was there, so I know where he's gone, but nobody else knows At this moment, we're back at the institute theory with all of the tools we need. Ah, poor Hodge, we'll see him again later, wink, with all the tools we need to wake up the lovely jost to wake up

Mama faction. First, though, we have a lovely, little, lovely but heartbreaking Simon and Clary moment where you know, Clary has consoled Simon so many times, and now we get this role reversal where Simon actually is the one who knows his place in this world, and Simon is the one who's on sure footing and shoots a shot in

a way and and says, I've I've got you. We're going to do this, and then we have an exchange if I love you, which, again, this is something that you know, I thought about a lot because obviously Clary knows a bit of how Simon feels about her. She's she's aware, but isn't necessarily in a place where she can go there. But she needs a friend. And I think the the I love you in this sense is can be taken a lot of ways, but it's You're

my family, you are my rock. You are the one thing in this world that I'm sure of, So I'd love you. But it begs the question because she did invite him to the wedding, and there's a part of her that goes, Okay, I thought I knew what love was. I thought I knew what these emotions were. But if I thought that was Jason, Jason's my brother, maybe I was wrong about what love was. And maybe that God that didn't go on in the show as long as

it went on in the books, is all I'll say. Um, I know here we are, finally, after eleven twelve motherless episodes of Shadow answers, Finally, through the magic, blue, sparkly fingers of the wonderful Magnus Spain, we are about to welcome back Jocelyn Fairchild to the world of the Living, out of the green bell of Wragner Fell. Finally, Cat, why didn't you tell us about this scene? I don't know if I'm even there. You're not. You're on a boat with Daddy Valentine. So what we have here we

have the family, We have the family assembled. We have magical warlot godfather Magnus Spain rousing Joscelyn from her coma, and again, in a moment of gravitas, Luke catching her before she falls to the floor from her magical bubble. And we see, we see this moment the family reunited, and it's it's actually a really lovely moment. You know, there's when Jocelyn wakes up. In the books, their reunion is not quite as sweet. They actually kind of go

head to head almost immediately. Um, But in this moment, Clari has been through a lot. Jocelyn immediately apologizes, and there's a moment of not not now. We'll talk about this later. I don't want to. I don't want to talk about the shadow world. I don't want to talk about family or Jace or anything. I just need a hug. I just need my mom. Just need my mom. Just need a hug for my mom. NEUTRAL just need a hug.

Please hug me. Um. Quick note to arguably the scene stealer from this fucking Isaiah's arms, the size of them, good lord, Honestly, like he picks up Jocelyn and like it's nothing, Like it's nothing, just just like picking up a tray of mimosas Why that came to my head, I don't know, but that was the first thing that was easy to carry that came away. Is easy to carry. Yeah, when you've had as much practice as me, do it blindfolded? All right? You got to teach me because I do

not have those skills. Placement is key. Many years as a waiter, many dropped mimosa all right, Peter Parker um, which, speaking of cups and important precious liquids, brings us to the final scene in season one. Yeah, do you want to tell us about this one down? Yeah, lots of questions, lots of questions. We leave you with lots of questions.

Somewhere where we're in New York, so heading into the River Atlantic, Yes, somewhere heading out into the Lantic Ocean, is Valentine stood in front of a fully raised shadow Hunter army, ready to do his bidding, asking them to

join him. He's just a man with his son standing in front of an army with Jace asking him to asking them to join him with a very very motivationally questionable Jace at this moment, join me and my son as this army on a floating ops center, unbeknownst to anyone else in the Shadow World, sails off into the distance, leaving us on one of the biggest cliffhangers we ever had on the show. And that is the end of season one. That is it? That was the end of

season one. Wow? Can you imagine if we didn't come back? That would have been brutal, brutal if that's how we ended it, unbelievable. Also, I do just want to quick nod credit to the two hundred background supporting artists extras. However, you refer to them in your country. Um, it was freezing as cold this day, like freezing, freezing cold, and Alan and I had a little space inside and we were good and we could just you know, nip into the warm and nip back out. But these guys were

pretty much out there all night. So every single one of you, if any of you are listening, thank you so much for being troopers. You did an amazing job and the show wouldn't have been the same without you. It's not an easy job, and it's often a thankless job, and it adds so much to the world. And I mean, as we've seen also, you know, in this period of COVID,

folks may not folks at home may not know. Numbers of people on set have had to be controlled a bit more because it's not you know, there have been times during the pandemic, right hasn't been safe to have large numbers of people and enclosed spaces, so sets have had to get really creative with background essays whatever you

call them. In your country, as it were, um, by not having as many, and it really does change how you can tell a story and the sort of effect that you can have visually, and it you know, moments like this where you look and you see, as you said, two hundred extras on a boat in the middle of the water wouldn't be possible in the last couple of years. And it really does make a huge difference. Um, so

thank you. I completely agree essays with that, actually wonderful notes with some of the unsung heroes of Torontonian film and TV making. We're going to say goodbye to season one. Wow, that's it. We've made it all the way through season one and next up we've got longer hair, different swords, different color hair for you, different colored runs. We've got a whole bunch of changes, just kind of right from

the off. In season two, we get darker and edgier, the words that we said over and over and over when we were during the press tour for season two, darker and edgy, a bloodier um, and we dive right into some crazy, crazy action quite literally from the off. We got doppelgangers, we've got vampires, amazing Dean cop Coff, who's going to get a nod, new stunt coordinators. We got all of these different amazing things. But for now you're gonna have to wait, and I'm sorry about that. Um.

But as always. Thank you so much for listening, thank you for being a part of our journey. Thank you for coming along with us. I hope you enjoyed season one. I hope you enjoyed us reminiscing about season one and talking about season one. UM, if you have any questions or thoughts about season one, open line of communication, you know, hit us up. We will try and answer or get to or at least think about as many as we possibly can. But for now we're gonna say goodbye, and

we love you. Thank you very much. Thank you so much for joining us. We love you, angels, and I hope you've enjoyed going down memory Lane and back into the Fray as much as we have. See you next season. Thank you for turning to the Shadow Shutters. Return to the Shadows is hosted and executive produced by Katherine McNamara and Dominic Sherwood. Our executive producer is Langley. Our senior producers are Liz Hayes and Diego Topia, and our producers

are Hannah Harris and Kristin Vermilia. Original music by Alex Kinsey and performed by Alex Kinsey and Katherine McNamara.