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ReThinking

As an organizational psychologist, Adam Grant believes that great minds don't think alike; they challenge each other to think differently. In Re:Thinking with Adam Grant, he has lively discussions and debates with some of the world's most interesting thinkers, creators, achievers, and leaders—from Lin-Manuel Miranda to Brené Brown to Mark Cuban, and Olympic medalists to Nobel laureates to Oscar winners. By diving inside their minds, Adam is on a mission to uncover bold insights and share surprising science that can make us all a little bit smarter. Tune in to Re:Thinking with Adam Grant. You might just be inspired to let go of some old ideas and embrace some new ones.


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Episodes

Malcolm Gladwell Questions Everything

For our final episode of the year, let’s revisit Adam and Malcolm’s conversation from the archive. When Adam Grant and Malcolm Gladwell sit down to challenge each other, everything is fair game. Sit ringside for this collegial cage match in which two preeminent writers rethink each other's ideas in an insatiable quest to get closer to the truth. Is intelligence undersold or oversold? Does individual blaming and shaming obscure the pursuit of real change on racism? Could rethinking everything lea...

Dec 28, 20221 hr 21 min

Dolly Parton is burning up, not burning out

As we get ready for 2023, we’re excited to bring you a conversation Adam had earlier this year with beloved musician Dolly Parton. Adam talks with Dolly about her creative process, how she balances getting things right with getting things done, and how she manages the hefty cup of ambition she pours herself each morning. Her latest project, “Run, Rose, Run” is both a novel coauthored with James Patterson and a full-length companion album. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/T4G26 For ...

Dec 20, 202226 min

The science of healthy relationships with John and Julie Gottman

For decades, renowned psychologists John and Julie Gottman have studied–and guided–healthy relationships. They share insights from their research–and their marriage–on how to avoid a relationship apocalypse, handle conflict, and make love last. Their latest book, “The Love Prescription” is out now, and Adam has a field day getting them to demonstrate the differences between good and bad fights. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/RWAG13 For the full text transcript, visit ted.com/podc...

Dec 13, 202245 min

Why data don’t have all the answers with data scientist Andrea Jones-Rooy

Andrea Jones-Rooy is a data scientist who’s skeptical about data—and a comedian. Andrea and Adam talk about the perks and perils of sharing data on social media, the similarities between the scientific method and comedy, and the value of adding an air of mystery to the way we communicate discoveries. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/RWAG12 For the full text transcript, visit ted.com/podcasts/rethinking-with-adam-grant-transcripts Want to help shape TED’s shows going forward? Fill o...

Dec 06, 202230 min

How to have good arguments with world debate champion Bo Seo

Growing up, Bo Seo avoided arguments at all costs–until he discovered competitive debate. He went on to win the world debate championship twice and coach the Australian national team as well as the Debating Union at Harvard. Adam and Bo discuss the value of good arguments, how key debate skills pushes us to sharpen our thinking, and how we can get better at disagreeing. Bo’s new book “Good Arguments: How Debate Teaches Us to Listen and Be Heard,” is out now. This episode first aired on The Next ...

Nov 29, 202245 min

The four-day work week: luxury or necessity?

Why do we work five days a week? Could we be just as productive, healthier and happier by working less? And if so, how can leaders and workers successfully make the transition to a new way of working? Adam led a lively discussion of the science and practice of shorter work weeks with top experts from government, business, and academia at the World Economic Forum in Davos. The guests were Ohood Al Roumi, the UAE’s Minister of State for Government Development and the Future; Jonas Prising, CEO and...

Nov 22, 202241 min

The problem with setting goals, with NFL linebacker Emmanuel Acho

For someone who doesn’t believe in goal-setting, Emmanuel Acho is highly accomplished. He’s a former NFL linebacker, an Emmy-winning TV sports analyst, and the New York Times bestselling author of “Uncomfortable Conversations with a Black Man” – and hosts a video series and podcast of the same name. Emmanuel shares why he is “anti-goals”, how he consistently achieves greatness without pursuing success, and what sports have taught him about living a creative life. For the full text transcript, vi...

Nov 15, 202239 min

The psychology of human delusions with filmmaker Adam McKay

Adam McKay is one of the great satirists of our screens–he’s the writer, director, and producer behind Don’t Look Up, Succession, and The Big Short. Before that, he was best known for making us laugh at Anchorman and as the head writer of Saturday Night Live. Adam and Adam discuss the psychology of human delusion and narcissism, what he learned from improv comedy, and why success is about way more than who you know. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/RWAG9 For the full text transcrip...

Nov 08, 202241 min

If teachers took over the government with Sharon McMahon

If you were online during the historic 2020 election cycle, you may have seen Sharon McMahon’s viral videos. A former high school educator now known as “America’s Government Teacher,” Sharon fights polarization with nonpartisan facts. Sharon and Adam discuss how we can rethink the qualifications for elected office, who decides to run, and what information voters should weigh. They also address ways to sharpen critical thinking and ponder how to improve Congress with a few thought experiments–inc...

Nov 01, 202244 min

Reese Witherspoon on turning impostor syndrome into confidence

When Reese Witherspoon was in rehearsals for her lead role in the 2005 film Walk the Line, she wanted to quit–every day. But she went on to win the Oscar for her performance as June Carter Cash. Since then, she’s gone from playing iconic roles in films (Legally Blonde, Election, Water for Elephants) to also producing and starring in her own TV shows and movies (Little Fires Everywhere, Big Little Lies, Wild). Reese talks to Adam about how she's built confidence by facing her doubts head on, and ...

Oct 25, 202246 min

Life, the universe, and everything with Nobel laureate physicist Saul Perlmutter

Growing up, Saul Perlmutter just wanted to know how the world worked. In 2011, he was part of the Nobel Prize-winning team that discovered the accelerating expansion of the universe. Saul and Adam talk about how science and knowledge evolve, what surprising emotions come with discovery, and why the combination of individual humility and collective confidence can solve some of the world’s biggest problems. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/RWAG6 For the full text transcript, visit te...

Oct 18, 202232 min

How Celeste Ng writes fiery prose

It took Celeste Ng a long time to believe she could write for a living. Now she’s the New York Times bestselling author of the novels “Everything I Never Told You” and “Little Fires Everywhere”-- which was developed into a hit TV show by Reese Witherspoon’s production company, Hello Sunshine. Adam and Celeste have been friends since college–they met through her first writing job. They discuss Celeste’s versatile writing process, her insights on thinking and communicating more clearly, and how sh...

Oct 11, 202248 min

Busting the myths of the brain with neuroscientist Chantel Prat

Have you ever thought you can’t do something because you’re “not wired that way”? Neuroscientist Chantel Prat might challenge you to rethink your beliefs. Chantel dispels some sticky myths about right-brainers and left-brainers, shares her research on how learning to code depends more on verbal skills than math skills, and generates some hypotheses about Adam’s brain. Her debut book “The Neuroscience of You” is out now. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/RWAG4 For the full text trans...

Oct 04, 202246 min

Surgeon Atul Gawande wants everyone to have a coach

Atul Gawande was advised by a colleague to say yes to every opportunity until he turned 40. Since then he’s been a renowned surgeon, a public health leader and government policymaker, and a bestselling author and “New Yorker” writer. He talks with Adam about his fascinating career and how he balances his passions for different fields, why he works with a coach even in the operating room, and how he’s working in The White House to end our current pandemic–and prevent the next one. For the full te...

Sep 27, 202241 min

How free solo climber Alex Honnold faces fear

In 2017, Alex Honnold did what even the world’s best rock climbers thought was impossible. He climbed to the top of El Capitan– a granite rock mountain more than 3,000 feet high– without a rope, harness, or net. His audacious feat was the subject of the Oscar-winning documentary “Free Solo,” and it left Adam with some burning questions about what we can learn from his unique approach to managing fear. Alex opens up about how he regulates his emotions when he’s hanging on by just a few fingers, w...

Sep 20, 202243 min

Mark Cuban doesn’t believe in following your passions

Mark Cuban has gone from selling garbage bags door-to-door to selling internet companies for billions, acquiring an NBA team, and becoming a beloved “Shark” on Shark Tank. Mark reveals to Adam how he turns problems into opportunities in entrepreneurship, basketball, and investing. They discuss his latest venture–disrupting the healthcare industry with an online pharmacy and a price-slashing philosophy that makes hundreds of drugs affordable–and why following your passion is not the best way to m...

Sep 13, 202245 min

Ava DuVernay is Triumphant

Before Ava DuVernay became the first Black woman director to win Sundance and get nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars, she was a publicist with a little hobby, a big dream, and a lot of patience. Adam talks to Ava about how she turned her side gig of filmmaking into a brilliant career, how her leadership style has evolved over the years, and what studying MLK while making the movie Selma can teach us about what it really takes to inspire. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/T4G29...

May 31, 202235 min

Satya Nadella is building the future

Satya Nadella is a modern renaissance man; he’s a cricket enthusiast, poetry lover, oh, and the chairman and CEO of Microsoft with a nearly perfect approval rating on Glassdoor. Satya has led a transformation at Microsoft, up-ending the culture, and rethinking remote and hybrid work. In this episode, Adam talks to Satya about the future of work, leadership, and building cultures of care. For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/T4G28 For the full text transcript, visit ted.com/podcasts/ret...

May 24, 202228 min

Jon Batiste on the art of pushing your limits

Jon Batiste has had a record year—he was the most nominated artist at the Grammys, winning five of his ELEVEN nominations across multiple categories, including Album of the Year. When he’s not making musical history, he’s a touring artist, late-night band leader, and Oscar-winning composer. In this episode, Jon talks with Adam about the creative process of making his genre-defying music, his prodigious background as a young musician in New Orleans, the role of focus and variety in building a suc...

May 10, 202229 minSeason 4Ep. 1

Esther Duflo wants you to think like a plumber

When Esther Duflo took her first economics class, she hated it. In 2019, she won a Nobel Prize in economics. Esther talks with Adam about her groundbreaking experiments to fight poverty, busts myths about what motivates people, and reveals how to make meaningful progress toward solving daunting problems. Read the text transcript for this episode at go.ted.com/T4G24 For the full text transcript, visit ted.com/podcasts/rethinking-with-adam-grant-transcripts Want to help shape TED’s shows going for...

Nov 09, 202157 minSeason 3Ep. 4

Indra Nooyi Says It’s Time for Leaders to Care

PepsiCo's trailblazing former CEO drove record profits—but did so while investing in employee well-being, consumer health, and environmental sustainability. In their second conversation, she and Adam are on stage for a lively, entertaining dialogue about how to improve our work lives and our workplaces. They talk about striking a balance between fitting in and standing out, winning support for major change up and down the org chart, and rethinking business education. Indra also reveals the name ...

Nov 02, 202140 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Indra Nooyi wants us to reimagine the return to work

The longtime PepsiCo CEO is one of the world’s most powerful women and Time’s 100 most influential people. In the first of two rich conversations, she explains why she wrote more than 400 letters about her direct reports… to their parents. Indra and Adam discuss what she’s learned about leadership, finding and being a mentor, championing ideas from below, and making big career decisions. They also explore some of the big questions around the future of work—from embracing flexibility to creating ...

Oct 26, 202146 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Allyson Felix on defeating disappointment and savoring success

At the age of 18, Allyson Felix took home the Olympic silver medal in the 200 meter dash. She was devastated. Where others saw “second-best in the world,” she only saw “not first.” That race lit a fire that would carry her on to become the most decorated track and field athlete in American history. Adam talks with her about achieving excellence, bouncing back from her so-called “failures,” and sustaining motivation to medal in five straight Olympic games. Read the text transcript for this episod...

Oct 19, 202155 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Lin-Manuel Miranda Daydreams, and His Dad Gets Things Done

Adam Grant speaks with Lin-Manuel Miranda and his father, Luis, about navigating creative work alongside practical demands. They share insights on Lin's process, from overcoming resistance to tasks to the importance of deadlines and incubation. They also discuss the journey and impact of *In the Heights*, the risk of debuting *Hamilton* at the White House, and the influence of family and community on creativity and success.

Jun 29, 202144 minSeason 2Ep. 4

John Green Wants You to Pay Attention to Your Attention

Author John Green joins Adam Grant to discuss his book, "The Anthropocene Reviewed," which reviews aspects of the human-centered planet on a five-star scale. Inspired by illness and the call to pay attention to what he pays attention to, John explores the subjective nature of reviews, attention as a core resource for finding wonder and purpose, and views writing as a gift. They discuss insights on motivation, creativity, dealing with failure, and finding flow, drawing lessons from therapy, Mario Kart, and the paradox of human power.

Jun 22, 202153 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Mellody Hobson on Taking Tough Feedback

Trailblazing leader Mellody Hobson discusses the art of receiving feedback, treating it as a gift while seeking grains of truth even from harsh critics. She emphasizes the importance of being honest without being brutal, leaders admitting imperfections, and building resilience. Hobson also shares insights on navigating identity in leadership, investing in others' success, and driving systemic change by holding institutions accountable and speaking up against injustice.

Jun 15, 202137 minSeason 2Ep. 2

Merve Emre on Emotional Intelligence as Corporate Control

Adam Grant speaks with author and critic Merve Emre about her controversial take on emotional intelligence. They explore its origins in emotional labor, critique Daniel Goleman's best-selling book for ignoring social context, and discuss how EI is used as a form of corporate control rather than genuine employee support. The conversation also delves into the debate between focusing on individual skills versus social structures in understanding human behavior.

Jun 08, 202154 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Daniel Kahneman Doesn't Trust Your Intuition

Nobel laureate Daniel Kahneman discusses biases, intuition, and decision-making with Adam Grant. They explore why reducing misery might be a more worthy goal than increasing happiness and challenge conventional ideas about employee engagement versus overall well-being. Kahneman shares his unusual perspective on finding joy in being wrong and offers practical advice on delaying intuition to improve judgment, drawing on his work, including his book 'Noise'.

Mar 16, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 5

Malcolm Gladwell Questions Everything

Adam Grant spars with Malcolm Gladwell, challenging each other's ideas on everything from snap judgments and facial cues to intelligence, performance enhancement, and the nature of racism. They discuss Adam's book "Think Again," exploring the value of rethinking assumptions, the difference between optimal and typical performance, and the importance of psychological richness over mere happiness.

Mar 09, 20211 hr 21 minSeason 1Ep. 4

Jane Goodall on Leadership Lessons from Primates

Legendary ethologist Jane Goodall joins Adam Grant to explore what studying chimpanzees can teach us about human leadership, status, and culture. They discuss the difference between being an alpha boss versus a true leader, how chimps build culture, and the roles of aggression, intelligence, and alliances. Jane also shares personal insights on her research journey, dealing with criticism, the importance of patience, and her shift to conservation activism focused on community and cultivating hope for the future.

Mar 02, 202143 minSeason 1Ep. 2
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