Have you ever wondered is any form of SDE is possible in a conventional public school? Join us as we talk to Sarita Flores about how she set up a culture of trust, autonomy, and partnership in her elementary classroom while finding the quick ways to check the curriculum boxes that teachers are required to check. We chat about the difficulties of being radical in a place often filled with rule followers, the power of allies, and the very real and concrete ways Sarita has brought the spirit and va...
Aug 12, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Season 3Ep. 1
In this episode Annie and Bria are chatting about early childhood education and its connection (or lack of connection) to SDE movements. Early childhood education has its own challenges, goals, and weirdness that’s related to but separate from “school age” schools and explore all those intersections and differences. We also talk about the overlapping ways we are all trying (or ways folks can try) to fight against a system that wants standardized compulsory schooling for all. We do miss Daveed. H...
Jul 02, 2024•1 hr 1 min•Season 3Ep. 2
We are talking about public funding, conventional school disruption, and coalition building. We are going to dig in on ways we can (or can not) work within the school system and public funding models to bring more SDE options, and equity in SDE options, to the movement. We will also talk about what is disruptive to the systems, and what is more harm reduction, and how far we can go in conventional school classrooms and systems. It’s a lot! We have a cohesive thematic approach this season! What’s...
Mar 06, 2024•39 min•Season 3Ep. 1
What’s missing from the term Self-Directed Education? What could an alternative term be? Who holds the lines on the values in movements and communities, and why? Will Bria _finally_ accept that Vawisai is the way? And are all terms and movements destined to be co-opted? Join us as we talk about terms, language, distinctions, dogma, and co-option,. We also throw in some comparisons between SDE movements and police abolition movements, because how could we not!
Jan 20, 2024•1 hr 3 min•Season 2Ep. 8
We talk to Raj about how he came to SDE (such an interesting story!) and his experience in building an SDE community centering BIPOC folks and collective liberation. We talk about SDE center struggles, corner store candy runs, tweens & tweens, social justice and anti-racism in SDE centers, and what it means to be a community that is really supporting one another in all the struggles centers go through. You can support Liberated Kids’ mission to be financially accessible for all kids by becom...
Sep 23, 2023•57 min•Season 2Ep. 7
Daveed and Bria introduce themselves, because they haven’t quite done that, chat about how they met and started working together, and share the (not short) stories of their paths into SDE and youth liberation work. Spoiler alert: Our paths were very different! We also talk briefly how some people latch on to the ideas of SDE, and others do not.
Aug 15, 2023•47 min•Season 2Ep. 6
Join us as we chat with Crystal Byrd Farmer about her experience working with neurodivergent young people in SDE. We also chat about her book The Token, annnnd she reveals what her next book(s) will be about! You don’t want to miss this one. Buy The Token here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-token-common-sense-ideas-for-increasing-diversity-in-your-organization-crystal-byrd-farmer/14178436?ean=9780865719514 Crystal’s ALC: https://gastoniafreedom.org...
Jun 07, 2023•44 min•Season 2Ep. 5
Join us as we chat with Brooklyn Wetzel about who and what holds the autonomy of the young people in an SDE space, how it gets messy, and the different aspects of SDE models and facilitators that find various ways to support young people’s autonomy and power, or ways to not support it.
Apr 22, 2023•53 min•Season 2Ep. 4
Ben and Genevieve are crowdfunding and starting their project to create a documentary miniseries. As unschoolers and young people themselves, this documentary will ask questions from a lens of connection with youth, who they plan to center in their documentary. We are so excited to hear more about their project in this short special release podcast episode. If you want to know more about what they are doing and why, give it a listen. Please also check out their crowdfunding campaign if you haven...
Mar 25, 2023•26 min•Season 2Ep. 3
We talk with Anthony Galloway about “requiring” social Justice work in an SDE center, what that actually looks like in practice, how to start to integrate this work into your own SDE center, and being willing to mess up.
Mar 10, 2023•1 hr 19 min•Season 2Ep. 2
It’s our second season! It’s been a year since we started doing THIS thing and we are excited to celebrate the start of our second season. It’s also a season of life where we needed a bit of a pause, so it’s been a minute since we shared an episode. That’s always OK, but also we missed this! Listen in to our conversation with Kathy Crisp, who has worked at the Village Free School since 2010. We are talking about why people join SDE centers, the real work that is needed from young people AND thei...
Feb 15, 2023•41 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Bria and Daveed share their perspectives on your questions, and musings on the underlying anxiety that affects our roles as caregivers and facilitators. Join us as we chat about what doing nothing means, the biggest misconceptions about SDE, the limits of using SDE as a way of making the world better for everyone, and more.
Oct 27, 2022•59 min•Season 1Ep. 8
Join us as we talk with Meghan from The Unschool Files about cancel culture and its relevance to the SDE movement, ways we each approach differences in opinions and values, especially with other other unschooling and SDE folks, and when we do feel it’s important to call someone in and invite a conversation. We also chat about redefining what “public education” means, and ways we can envision increased SDE accessibility. As always, let us know what you think. This was a hard one to tease out, so ...
Aug 31, 2022•1 hr 2 min•Season 1Ep. 7
In this episode we chatted with Rocco, and his mom, Chestnut, about his decision to try out public conventional school, how they approached the decision, and how they have navigated conventional school as a family. Rocco also shared what drew him to this decision in the first place, and compares his experiences at conventional school with his experience at Village Free School, and SDE center in Portland, OR. If you’re looking to learn more about how to navigate the conversation about conventiona...
Jul 28, 2022•57 min•Season 1Ep. 6
This month we were joined by our friend and co-conspirator Domari Dickinson (if you aren’t already following Domari on Instagram you’re missing out @domaridickinson) This was a fun episode as the three of us shared what’s present for us and laughed a LOT. We talked about moving and community, trauma of conventional schooling, surviving the system(s), building a sense of self, cheetos, and what motivates us (hint: it’s JOY). And Daveed sang a little.
Jun 22, 2022•55 min•Season 1Ep. 5
The biggest part of SDE facilitation, and parenting, is knowing when and how to support the young people. But the lines between supportive nudging and coercing can be blurry, and is especially dependent on our relationship with the young person. In this episode, we explore what nudging can look like, when we would and wouldn’t nudge, and the complexities involved in figuring this out as adults in relationship with young people. We also share a “spicy” situation and talk about the ways in which o...
Jun 01, 2022•54 min•Season 1Ep. 4
Flying Squads: Existing Without Expectations Silly. Fun. Thoughtful. Reflective. Just like Flying Squads themselves this podcast was filled with all of it, along with plenty of space for loud laughter. In our latest episode we are joined by three Flying Squad facilitators (in addition to Daveed and Bria) from different locations, and we talk about all things Flying Squads, including: resting and healing together, being stuck with one another (or, community elevated), the impact on our deschoolin...
Apr 20, 2022•1 hr 10 min•Season 1Ep. 3
In this episode we talk through and process a definition of boundaries that pushes on the ways we are used to thinking about our boundaries. We then go deep on various aspects of boundaries within SDE and ourselves, such as how this shows up in community and the complexities of upholding boundaries within an SDE space (especially when values or needs differ). Note: credit goes to KC Davis (@domesticblisters on Tik Tok) for the short audio clip about boundaries that we shared in this podcast. You...
Mar 26, 2022•48 min•Season 1Ep. 2
To deschool ourselves is to truly decolonize ourselves, schools are the first places where we learn untruths about ourselves. Where we question our abilities because we are being constantly graded and compared. Where we let someone else dictate our worth, where we learn untruths about our histories under the colonizer's lens. In this first episode, we explore questions and ideas related to this statement.
Feb 20, 2022•38 min•Season 1Ep. 1
