Rethinking Hell is a central resource for a view on Hell called Conditional Immortality (a.k.a. conditionalism or annihilationism). Focusing on this biblical view as held by many Evangelical Christians, we interview notable proponents, respond to the challenges of critics, present the stories of people who once held to the traditional view but are now rethinking hell, and much more.
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Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark interview J. Webb Mealy about his book, The Bad Place . In this part 2 of their discussion, they discuss the application of Mealy's five principles for interpreting the Book of Revelation. Links: J. Webb Mealy's book The Bad Place: Or, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Hell, but Were Afraid to Ask , on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Place-Everything-always-wanted-ebook/dp/B09NKJ2XNB/ Mealy's Amazon author's page: https:/...
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark interview J. Webb Mealy about his book, The Bad Place . In this part 1 of their discussion, Mealy summarizes the chapters of his book and then outlines his five principles of interpreting the Book of Revelation. Links: J. Webb Mealy's book The Bad Place: Or, Everything You Always Wanted to Know About Hell, but Were Afraid to Ask , on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Place-Everything-always-wanted-ebook/dp/B09NKJ2XNB/ Mealy's Amazon...
The hosts continue their response to Matt Slick of CARM.org, dissecting his use of ambiguous biblical texts like 1 Peter 3:18-19, Luke 23:46, and Matthew 22:32 to argue against "soul sleep" and conditional immortality. They highlight his self-contradictions and reliance on philosophical arguments concerning continuity of existence and Jesus' hypostatic union, demonstrating how these arguments are either flawed or misapplied to conditionalism. The discussion emphasizes the lack of a strong scriptural "seat of doctrine" for eternal torment, which forces traditionalists to resort to tangential or inconsistent arguments.
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this fifth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris begin discussing how Slick insists upon conflating physicalism and "soul sleep" with conditional immortality and annihilationism to erect a straw man easily burned down. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism...
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this fourth episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris continue discussing how Slick misrepresents conditionalism and annihilationism in the definitions he offers of various terms and of our beliefs. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism...
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this third episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris discuss how Slick misrepresents conditionalism and annihilationism in the definitions he offers of various terms and of our beliefs. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism...
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to continue a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this second episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris discuss some of the ways Slick misreads and misrepresents conditionalist literature in his critiques of annihilationism. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism...
Rethinking Hell contributors Peter Grice and Chris Date join Darren Clark to begin a series of podcast episodes responding to Matt Slick of CARM.org. In this first episode of the series, Darren, Peter, and Chris appeal to Slick for better interactions with conditionalists. Links: Matt Slick's annihilationism landing page at CARM.org: https://carm.org/annihilationism
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews conditionalist Michael Zwaagstra on a course he recently taught at Steinbach Bible College on the three Christian views of hell. Links: The website for Michael's recent book, The Naked Man Flees: Timeless Truths from Obscure Parts of the Bible : http://thenakedmanflees.com/ Michael's book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Naked-Man-Flees-Timeless-Obscure/dp/B08DBVZYZP/ The website for Steinbach Bible College, at which Michael recently taught his ...
This episode features an interview with atheist Ed Atkinson, exploring his journey from atheism to Christianity and back. Atkinson, a proponent of abductive reasoning, applies this method to critique the traditional doctrine of eternal conscious torment, arguing it presents a "terrible fit" for a maximally loving and just God. He also discusses how conditional immortality, or annihilationism, offers a more coherent alternative, while still posing philosophical and theological challenges related to justice and the church's historical doctrinal errors. The conversation emphasizes the importance of open dialogue between Christians and atheists.
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark interviews former RZIM speaker Dan Paterson on his experiences with and thoughts on the topic of hell. Links: Dan Paterson's speaker profile at RZIM (with which he is no longer affiliated): https://www.rzim.org/speakers/dan-paterson Part 1 of a recent interview of Dan Paterson by Joel Ramsey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FayiAh7QwWE Part 2 of a recent interview of Dan Paterson by Joel Ramsey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9saVOHCoH_U Part 3 of a rece...
Rethinking Hell contributors Darren Clark and Skylar White join Chris Date to review his recent debate versus Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" show. This episode contains part 2 of their review. Links: Debate between Chris Date and Ross Burns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aklzBkWnY
Rethinking Hell contributors Darren Clark and Skylar White join Chris Date to review his recent debate versus Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" show. This episode contains part 1 of their review. Links: Debate between Chris Date and Ross Burns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aklzBkWnY
Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and William Tanksley respond to the hosts of the Doctrine and Devotion podcast, who recently critiqued annihilationism in response to an emailer's question. This episode contains part 2 of Chris and William's response; listen to episode 143 for part 1. Links: The Doctrine and Devotion podcast episode titled "Annihilationism": http://www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/annihilationism...
Rethinking Hell contributors Chris Date and William Tanksley respond to the hosts of the Doctrine and Devotion podcast, who recently critiqued annihilationism in response to an emailer's question. This episode contains part 1 of Chris and William's response; listen to episode 144 for part 2. Links: The Doctrine and Devotion podcast episode titled "Annihilationism": http://www.doctrineanddevotion.com/podcast/annihilationism...
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date debates traditionalist Ross Burns on Zac Sechler's "Adherent Apologetics" YouTube channel, debating the question, "Will the Lost Remain Alive in Hell Forever?" Links Chris Date and Ross Burns's debate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1aklzBkWnY Chris Date's interview on "Adherent Apologetics": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s08GKPkRUsk Ross Burns's debate with a Roman Catholic annihilationist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyjGrx9XHfc&t=3125s...
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary ) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren, Johnathan, and Chris discuss part 3 of the debate, in which Date and Costa field audience questions. Links: Part 1 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/podcast/october-8-2...
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary ) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren, Johnathan, and Chris discuss part 2 of the debate, in which Date and Costa debate the question, "Is conscious torment of the damned eternal?" Links: Part 1 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.iron...
Rethinking Hell contributor Darren Clark and friend of the ministry Johnathan Pritchett (VP for Academics at Trinity College of the Bible and Theological Seminary ) join Chris Date to review his debate versus Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio program. In this episode, Darren, Johnathan, and Chris discuss part 1 of the debate, in which Date and Costa debate the question, "Is immortality only given to the saved?" Links: Part 1 of the Date vs. Costa debate: http://www.ironshar...
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date is joined by Dr. Bart Ehrman to discuss Ehrman's latest book, Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife . Links: Ehrman's book at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Hell-Afterlife-Bart-Ehrman/dp/1501136739/ The Bart Ehrman Blog: https://ehrmanblog.org/ Ehrman's website: https://www.bartdehrman.com/
Former Rethinking Hell contributor Nick Quient joins Chris Date to discuss Nick's recent book, The Perfection of Our Faithful Wills: Paul's Apocalyptic Vision of Entire Sanctification , and how the apocalyptic theology of the apostle Paul supports conditional immortality and challenges the doctrines of eternal torment and universalism. Links: Nick's book at the publisher's website ( https://wipfandstock.com/the-perfection-of-our-faithful-wills.html) Nick's book at Amazon ( https://www.amazon.com...
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains the fifth and final part of their discussion; listen to episodes 132 through 135 for the first four parts. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupte...
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 4 of their discussion; the next episode will contain the final installment of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://...
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 3 of their discussion; the next one or two episodes will contain the remainder of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": http...
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 2 of their discussion; the next two or three episodes will contain the remainder of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": ht...
Rethinking Hell contributors William Tanksley and Darren Clark join Chris Date to critique Greg Koukl and Tim Barnett's article series at Stand to Reason called "Hell Interrupted." This episode contains part 1 of their discussion; the next two, three, or four episodes will contain the remainder of the series. Links: Part 1 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupted": https://www.str.org/SolidGroundSept2017HellInterrupted Part 2 of Koukl and Barnett's article series, "Hell Interrupt...
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Dr. Tremper Longman III, in whose recent book on Old Testament controversies says some Bible interpreters are motivated to reject divine sanction of violence in Scripture by their desire to believe in annihilationism. Tremper Longman's recent book, Confronting Old Testament Controversies
Rethinking Hell contributor Chris Date interviews Dr. Ian Paul, in whose commentary on the book of Revelation articulates a conditionalist reading of Revelation 14:9-11 and 20:10-15. Links: https://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Introduction-Commentary-Tyndale-Testament/dp/0830843000/ https://www.ivpress.com/tyndale-new-testament-commentaries...
Links The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website: http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's profile at the Toronto Baptist Seminary website: https://tbs.edu/academics/faculty/
Chris Date debates the nature and duration of hell with traditionalist Tony Costa on Chris Arnzen's "Iron Sharpens Iron" radio show. This episode contains the second part of their two-part debate. Links: The Iron Sharpens Iron radio website http://www.ironsharpensironradio.com/ Tony Costa's profile at the Toronto Baptist Seminary website https://tbs.edu/academics/faculty/a...
