Retail Therapy 088: 2024 Fall Fashion

Retail Therapy on In the Will Barrett How we do it today? Doing great, doing really really well. It's been a big couple of weeks for me. Please Randy, why don't you let me know all my stuff is sitting up here on the screen. Well, Barrett has five windows open. Luckily for you Barrett, no one knows when you're looking at it on your browser because you have so many windows open on numerous windows. You can't even decipher what the tabs are.

I don't know how you operate like Tom Cruise in Minority Report. I've got the windows all up and I just move them around in such fashion that you don't know what I'm doing, but I'm an expert at it. I'm such a screen minimalist. That's not even funny. I have only tabs that I need actively right there. Yeah, not me, not me. What if I need to go back to one of those tabs? History. Have you never noticed that your history doesn't keep all of your history?

Where's that one product that I was looking at? It's nowhere to be found because you hit back once and then it's gone. If I'm shopping and I have tabs open, and I lose it, and I can't find it, then I always just say, hey, if you really want it, you'll go find it in a couple days. If you really, really want it. I used to bookmark everything. Then I would just have one of those moments in life where you're sitting on your computer and you're like, man, I feel like buying something right now.

I just go to the bookmarks, click and be like, that's in the right press range. That sounds tight. No, no, no, no. That was an unhealthy exercise. Yeah, so here's some updates. Here's a little bit of housekeeping on my end. I've added a retinal to my skin routine. Wow. Yeah, that's a big thing. I've been putting this off for months, months and months and months and months because it can make your skin flare up for a month or two as your skin gets used to it.

You're not really supposed to be in the sun, much, especially at the beginning and summer and Austin, we get a lot of sun. I've been putting it off and putting it off and putting it off. I finally took the leap. If you ever talk to a dermatologist about skin stuff, they will recommend it. Three things to you. There are three things that every dermatologist is going to recommend to you. It's basically, the secret is basically that there are the only three things that are proven to work for skin.

The first is SPF. They will all tell you that you need to be SPFed up. I knew one of them. My SPF was the one. The second is retinoids. They're the only thing that I think are truly scientifically proven to actually make your skin better. The third is Botox. That's also clear. If you want fewer wrinkles, that is, you get Botox. I'm trying to get rid of that one between the brow. You know a lot of guys have that though. You know, flying gossling, Brad Pitt, all those dudes have.

They just let it fly, so I'm letting it fly. But they also have like, they don't have like, crows feet and stuff because they're getting worked on. You know what I mean? They can sacrifice the brow wrinkle because they don't have the other stuff going on. But I found myself applying like moisturizers lately, scrunching my face in certain ways, being like, oh, what is that? What is that? Yeah. So I was peeping some of the fits, some of the the fellows at, I think it was the Venice film festival.

Maybe it was TIFF. I can't remember. But it was Aaron Taylor Johnson and Drew Starky of Outer Banks fame. They both were just absolutely flossing and flexing. They both had earrings and they looked so tight. And I was basically like, hey, Laura, what do you think about me getting an earring for my 38th birthday coming up in a few months? How'd that go? Well, she basically told me that I needed better skin, younger skin to pull this off.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. If you want to, if you want to, if I want to be young, you want to play, I got it right. So I'm now more motivated than ever to get this skin glowing and fresh faced so that maybe I can be in a position to pull off an earring. See, my issue, you're having the same issue with the earring that I have with like a tattoo.

It's like, I would love to get a tattoo, but there's no part of my body that I'm proud enough of to have someone like always looking at it being like, oh, that's okay. Because if you have a tattoo and I'm talking to someone, they're going to look at it at some point. Right. And I'm going to get a tattoo on my tiny forearm. See like that. Okay. The other big news on my end is that I've come around on Sabrina Carpenter. I didn't know you were not around. I was an anti-Sabrina Carpenter.

I just was, I was neutral on Sabrina Carpenter. I thought espresso was fine. Are you saying baby girl Barry was tankin Sabrina's stock? Okay. Here's the thing. We did not vet, we did not vet Barry properly. We then, we anointed him very quickly. Do you know he basically broke up with a girlfriend slash and fiance with who just had his child? I saw Sabrina Carpenter. I saw a lot of tweets after he and Sabrina Carpenter broke up. Yeah. About like, oh, now he's got time for his kid. For his kid.

Yeah. Had no idea. I had no idea about this. We clearly did not do enough of our own research on Barry. I like Barry. I'm still, you know, I think he's a great actor. He's got some quirky style. I'm still with Barry, but also maybe a little bit scummy, right? A little bit sleezy with some of the moves that he was making out there. Therefore, I feel very good about revoking his baby girl status when we did. I have someone I'd like to add to the pile here.

Okay. His name is escaping me, which clearly means I need to do more research. But the only way I can describe him is that he was previously kind of a dork in movies when he was a kid. Will Poulter. Yes. Yeah. I think we need to have a discussion about him because when he's on the screen, everyone's loving him. Yeah. He's putting out major baby girl vibes in the bear, which I will talk more about the bear later in this episode in this relation to fall fashion.

But I think it might be worth kind of vetting him for a little bit. Okay. We can put him on the watch list. We can put him on the watch list. Yeah, you can put him on the watch list. So he's the closest thing I have lately to someone who I want to put on the watch list. So does that mean that we're just going to also keep Austin Butler on the watch list? Or is he getting the bump up to baby girl? Austin Butler is, he's not baby girl. No. No. I think we can cross him off. He's off the watch list.

He's off the watch list. He's too polarizing. For me, it's reasons that I don't think are necessarily just. I struggle to annoy someone to be baby girl status if they're changing their accents. And they're not being themselves. Here's the thing about a lordian mess cow. Find me somebody that doesn't like them. Yeah, right? Yeah. That's a key piece of baby girl is that they are universally beloved. Did you see? Nobody dislikes those two guys. Did you see all this?

I mean, my timeline is so like that crew coded at this point on Twitter that like, Daisy Edgar Jones gets lumped in there because she's so Paul Messcal, Jason. And I guess she and a lordier and some new film together, which I'm obviously going to have to see. Right. Yes. And she was wearing a long dress at an event the other night. And while they were walking off the stage, she asked her like, do you want me to pick it up for you? And I was just like that. Yeah. You are such a little baby girl.

She's also like five foot seven. And he is absolutely dwarfing her in those photos. Fuck that guy, man. He's so tall. It's not fair. But if they actually got together, they'd be such a good looking couple, just jarringly good looking. Yeah. Yeah. But okay. So Sabrina Carbenter has a couple new new tracks out. Okay. Taste where she is going after Camila Cabello. Final thought. Yeah. And put out the video featuring Jenna Ortega is an absolute slapper of the track.

I haven't listened to the good song. I haven't listened to it. It's called Taste. There's another one called Bedcam, which is so sultry, so sexy. Okay. And it's kind of like, it's very Ariana Grande coded. But speaking of people who are kind of shit people, Ariana Grande kind of falls into that category. She's got some quirks. You know, she's made some questionable decisions. And so Sabrina is kind of like a little bit more of like a like a like she just more, she's got a higher Q rating.

I my worry. So does the sexy stuff. I'm like, Oh, okay. This kind of, this is like, you know, to pull from our friend Dave, you know, it's the juxtaposition. It is. It is. I was watching the VMAs last night trying to be relevant. Yeah. I caught like 15 minutes. Yeah. I watched way too much of them. I did enjoy Sabrina Carbenter's acceptance speech for one of her awards. I was like, Oh, I've not, I, the second she walked on stage, I looked at Sally and I said, I've never heard her speak before.

Yeah. And I was like, Oh, that was a very nice like humanizing speech that she just gave. That's very nice. She did, she did thank the fans first and they all started clapping and then she shushed them instead. If you guys keep clapping, I'm not going to be able to finish my speech. And I was like, don't thank the fans and then tell them to shut up. But I, I understand where you're coming from. But for me, she's, she's, she's so manufactured pop star right now.

So I don't have a read on her personality. Yeah. And I was just about to say, she does give off like major industry plant vibes. Yeah. But she is, she's, she's climbing the hill for me. I really, I like the two songs I just named, Taste and Bedcam. I like way more than I ever liked espresso. Okay. And I think that, I think that moving on from, from Barry is a good move for her. And I'm just, yeah, I'm just, I'm more in on Sabrina than than I ever have been.

I mean, she's the typical pipeline though of like Disney. Yeah. With child actress to pop stuff. It makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And trying to sort out my chapel, Ron feelings. I like her music. I don't find myself wanting to pop it in the car very often. Right. But I like it. Yeah. I'm tired of my, my wife and my son singing hot to go together. It's cute. But like I'm tired of the song itself. So I'm like, yeah, we can, we can move on from H-O-T-T-O-G-O.

Yeah. But, but she's like, in terms of how she's viewed right now. I mean, she's very, would you, she be a baby boy? Yeah. I mean, yeah. I'm pretty sure she's going to have the biggest crowd of all time at ACL. Yeah. Catch me not there. Yeah. I mean, I'll be at ACL, but I will not be trying to trudge through the. I got to see it. I got to see it. I got to see this. I got it, you know, I got to handle it. I'll be right now.

There's nobody, there's the only person playing opposite her is Saan Holo. That's like, that's a DJ. Oh, yeah. I don't think he's going to draw too many people away from from, they desperately need somebody to like split the crowd. Yeah. And they need to put her. Right now. Doesn't look like they're going to have to. Is she headlining? No. They did move her to the, they switched her day, they moved her day. And now she's on Sunday instead of Saturday and she's like the five or six PM slot.

Ooh. And she's on the main, she's on the biggest stage. That's a great slot. But it's going to be that that that crowd is going to, I'm pretty sure. The second the last. The biggest crowd of all time at ACL. Second the last slot for ACL or any big music festival in the last days. It's a great time. Because like not everyone wants to be there late night on Sunday. Yeah, yeah, it's true. Sunset in Austin while she's going, like that sounds delightful. Does kind of sound good.

Yep. Yep. We got a lot to talk about today. Today is our fall fashion episode. It will be very men focused. We apologize for not having more on the women's front, but hey, it is what it is. I think we will be touching on some women's stuff either way. But before we get into today's men's fashion, today's episode is sponsored by Better Help. You know, this podcast was printed by Sunday Scaries, you know.

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Again, that's BetterHelpHELP.com slash scary. Let's talk men's fall fashion. It's always, this is really one of the reasons this podcast exists in the first place. I started having Baradon for some fall fashion episodes of Sunday's scary and then we started doing the gift guides for around Christmas time. And suddenly I was like, oh, we got something here. I think we can make a podcast out of this. Barad, where do you want to start here? Oh, boy, that's a great question.

There's a lot to go through. Let's talk about some brands first. Let's talk about some brands that we're paying attention to and maybe how they relate and kind of segue into some of the motifs and trends that we're seeing out there. I'll say this. Remember, Jay Crew is officially in the first four sites I'll go to to check out something for the first time ever. Not ever. Sorry.

For the first time since I've moved to Austin, so about nine and a half years, I'm going to Jay Crew faster than I used to. It's because they're doing good stuff. I also think they have a relatively good pulse on things that are very much in our demographic that work. And I'm more into it right now. And I guess the same goes for Abacrombie in that way. I think Babanzine at Jay Crew is finally kind of pangsome dividends. You know? We got teas last year a little bit.

Took a few seasons for them to really fill it all out and find their footing, I think, which is that's normal. It's not typical for a new person to come in and just be able to turn the boat around overnight. And yeah, apparently women are saying this too, by the way. He's not responsible for women's Jay Crew, I don't believe. I think he's just the men's director. But yeah, I've been seeing some reels from some fashion influencers talking about how they're kind of back in on Jay Crew as well.

So, yeah, they've got the barn code of the season for me at the moment. As we've mentioned. Get it now, I'll tell you. Over the last few weeks. And yeah, there's a lot of stuff to light. They have a lot of kind of what my notes really have are just like when it comes to just the everything I went and shopped. I'll be honest, I pulled up the men's wear matrix that we had talked about on previous episodes.

It takes you kind of, I wanted to diversify from the things that I normally shop and I wanted to go take a look at brands that I might not race to their website to go see. But so much of what I saw was like the IV, the prep, the earth tones, like almost just so classic fall that it feels, I don't want to say boring, but it's like I feel like we're playing the hits this fall on a lot of different levels.

Yeah. I'm not opposed to playing the hits because if there's ever a time to have a good staple wardrobe, it's during the autumn. Yeah. And so I saw a lot of the same stuff with Abercrombie, you know, the colors that you're seeing are brown, black, denim. It's just, it's all very earth tone and kind of deep colors. And I'm not opposed to this, but I'm still trying to confront how to pair colors with the color brown.

Color brown is so present in so many things at this point that I can only own so many tan t-shirts. I can only wear so many bodied red things. It's becoming more and more difficult for me to figure out how I can incorporate the old stuff in my wardrobe to wearing it with like brown pants or a brown jacket, a brown shirt. What I'm about to pull up here is an Instagram Stories ad that I was served from Shopbops Men's Division.

And I screen grabbed this because I really, really, really messed with this entire look, this whole outfit. And you know, we've got the chocolate brown pants and then a cropped jacket and like a very deep red. I think one of the things you noted on your notes here is that you're seeing some of these darker, deeper reds for men. Red was really big for women last year. It seems to have moved over to men's. This go round. I'm seeing less of it for women, more of it for red.

And it's mixed with these kind of ochers, oranges, rusts, browns. Yes. But this is a huge, this is a huge combination that I think you're going to see a lot is this kind of like very kind of cherry, autumnal, burnt red paired with brown. I'm feeling the same way about dark green as I am with like navy, that I was feeling with navy last year. I wasn't wearing as much navy. Now I'm wearing more navy. And I just feel like the stuff that's green, I'm like, I'm bored of that.

I want to go on to something else. I will say that the the the J crew chore jacket that is currently on sale is great. I love the color and it looks like a great jacket and the fact that it's on sale during the fall. I mean, I guess if you're buying anything at J crew retail price, you're kind of missing the, missing the mark there. But like stuff like that, I'm still very in on.

But like when it comes to like t shirts and just more like basics, I'm just skewing away from the green more than I was. And then maybe it's the gene effect, but I don't know. It could be. And navy is a great color to pair with brown as well. I think more so than forest green. Forest green and brown together can work, but it also feels very, it's almost like two camp counselor. Yeah. Or hunting coated or like, it's like very, very, very, very like fulcene. Yeah, right?

Yeah. Whereas the navy and brown and it's kind of red and brown look feels a little bit more fashion for me. I started incorporating more red last year because I had gotten like, I used all of my Nordstrom credit on just bodysh stuff that was red. And then I started, I got the ALD kind of cowboy shirt. Thank you, Randy. Very good work there. I got the cowboy shirt that was red.

And so I did start to try to put in more red and it made me more comfortable because red it was simply not a color that was on my radar. Yeah. I was just doing it because I wanted to, I wasn't actively seeking out more red. It was simply that the pieces that I thought were really cool were just red. And I think it was just because it was all popping up, everything coming up red, paint the town red, baby.

Well, speaking of your Western shirt, one of the brands that I'm really paying attention to this fall is Cherry Los Angeles. This is a brand that I've, it's been on my radar for maybe a year, maybe a year and a half. Some listeners kind of ask me for thoughts on this one. I like a lot of what they do.

And one of the reasons that I started paying attention to them in the first place is because especially in their spring summer season, less so in the fall, but in their spring summer, they do so much stuff that to me feels like if Halibut brothers had a like designer diffusion label. Like it's because it does pull in so much of this like California surf mixed with western. And those are kind of core elements of what we do at Howler as well.

Their fall gets a little bit more, feels like it feels more street wear, more fashion forward. But the notes that I have for this brand are that it's basically like a, I call it the California cowboy look that has been popular on Instagram for the last two years or so. But it's very, it's work wear heavy with a lot of Western with a lot of Western influence. But then it's coming from you, it's coming at you from a brand that is basically a street wear brand.

It doesn't, it doesn't, like you're so right about the Western feel of it, but it doesn't make, it doesn't make you look like you are going to be trying to dress like a cowboy when you're not. Right. But you can make it that if you want. Yeah. You know, you can really, you can West Texas it up if you want. And there's, there's some stuff that's a little too young for me, I would say. Like a lot of this, a lot of the graphic work feels very similar to like what Roode was doing five years ago.

And I don't dislike it. It's just, it feels a little too, it's just a little too fun, honestly. Yeah. If that makes sense. Yeah. No, that makes all the sense. And I feel like if you're like 28 or 32, even it works a little bit more, some of the, some of the brighter graphics, some of the patches, some of that type of thing just works a little bit better on a, on a younger guy.

But there's still a ton to like here, you'll see a lot, you know, a lot of the cropped silhouettes on the tops that we've been talking about, zip, zipped knitwear, which I know you've got on your list. Yeah, that was kind of out of nowhere. I don't know how I feel about that. Actually, we talked about that in a few minutes. Yeah. Yeah. The jacket that you originally brought up from Cherry was a cropped, it's a cropped jacket jacket. Swade is another big trend this season. But yeah.

Right. Everything's cropped. Every single jacket is cropped right now. It's either cropped or really long. The mid, like the one that falls right where your fingertips are, it's gone away. I mean, so the, the chore code, the, the ever present chore code still lives in the middle ground. Yeah. That's what I would, that's what I would say. Yeah. Yeah. But you're right.

Everything else, all the simple jackets, all the wool blusons, all the mechanics and workwear jackets, all the leather, all the swayed, all that stuff is going heavy crop. It's, I'm fine with the look of it. I like the look of it. But my, my fear is that I'm going to have to replace all my t-shirts and all my other stuff with things that are more cropped because I don't want to be the guy walking around with a t-shirt that's hanging on his butt.

And then, yeah, you have a jacket that's just riding up. The proportions don't work for me. But I feel like you've been making that move anyway already. I have, I have in a way. I truthfully bear it. I've been meaning to hit you up about the crop tease at Abercrombie to make sure I'm getting the right style because I had missed on an order recently. And it's just one of those things where it's like it is kind of inevitable. I like, I do like crop stuff. It's just, I haven't bought a ton of it.

And so I just, I, I just am so hesitant to buy a jacket before I buy other stuff that's cropped so that it doesn't all look weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Let me see. I had a couple of suede jackets in my examples, actually. I, I don't know how I feel about suede. It's suede to me is an impractical fabric when it comes to like actual function, but it looks and feels so nice that like I do want suede in my arsenal.

Yeah. I, so the, the jacket that I pulled up from Cherry, I really, really, really like. I love its western influence. It feel, it's, it's awesome. It's, you know, it lives somewhere on my wish list, although I don't think I'm going to be making an official ad. I, I actually, I bought on sale last year a, a similar-ish jacket. It didn't have the western detailing, but it was like a, a simple suede jacket with a collar and it zipped up. It's from the brand Sunflower. It was a great deal.

But I got it in and I just, I felt like I was doing a, it felt like a little too like raw hide. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And so I was like putting it on with stuff and I was like, I'm just not, I'm not cowboy core enough for this.

Yeah. You could be the stuff that I was making it work with, just like, felt like I was doing a, you know, like a lot of the stuff that we like, whether it's work wear or western, it's kind of like walks right up to the, to the edge of being cosplay or being costume me. But then it stops and it's like, you're good, you're good. And so when I was kind of trying it all with, with various things, I was like, man, I just, I don't know.

Like, it just wasn't in love, but, but this Cherry one, I think, honestly, it's more detailed and this is counterintuitive, but it almost makes it more versatile. Have you been, I'm sure you've seen it on Instagram because I've seen it so many times, but they've restocked the jacket that Jeremy Allen White wore in the bear. Yes. So that, that, that jacket is from NNO7. And I think I, I might have it pulled up here, but continue. I mean, it's, it's very cropped. The sleeves are normal length.

And when I saw people going in the store to go try it on, well, one, it was the real, one of the reels that I saw about it was hilarious because he's like, he's like, I feel like a sim. Every single person in the store is walking around in this jacket, looking in mirrors at themselves. Like, we're all just clones of each other.

The way that the jacket fit, I mean, this wasn't something I was trying to actively get anyway, but the way that the jacket fit, it made me even more hesitant to jump in on a crop jacket without going into a store and trying it on. It did not make me want to order online. Okay. You were not actually trying this jacket on. You were seeing people try it on. Just seeing people try it on.

I was seeing people go, like I, I got caught in the algorithm of people being like, all right, I'm going to go to the store and, and go try this thing on. This might be a hot take. I don't like this jacket. I don't really like it that much. I like the cut of it. I don't, I agree. But the, the, the, the kind of the mishmash of color blocking on the wool like, to be honest, this still feels dated to me. This feels like a jacket that would have been cool in 2014 or 15.

I think in order to even wear this jacket, the way that it was fitting in, the way that I saw it fitting on people, you either have to be Jeremy Allen White's build or you have to be tall and slender. Okay. So you either need to be kind of short and shredded or you have to be tall and slender enough to pull it off because if you're in the mid-range, it's just not going to work for you. Yeah. It just, it doesn't fit correctly. He, I believe he wore this jacket in season two.

He wore a different jacket in season three that I'm, I'll pull up on the screen here. This is from WRL, but it's basically the same price as the NNO71. This is a WRL deck jacket. I like this jacket way more than I like the, I think I agree with you.

It's just a little, it like, honestly, way easier to pair with stuff because you don't have to worry about all those various colors kind of like getting in the way like of, oh, what if I want to wear green pants or, you know, like, this is just, this is going to go with everything, very timeless, military-based silhouette, like, built to last, double RL quality, like, this, if you want, if you want to emulate one of Carmies looks, this is the one that I would go for.

I feel like Carmies, a unspoken fashion inspiration for more people than those people are willing to admit. Yeah. It's, I think that like, I had in my notes just for the overall fall vibes, I just had, it's like old money, IV meets the bear.

Like, if you're falling somewhere in that spectrum, whether you want to admit it or not at this point, like, if you're shopping for new clothes right now, for many men's wear brands that we've ever talked about here, like, that's probably where you're falling. Surely, like, if you are, yeah, unless you're like, I think like you say, like, almost from, for the vast majority of our demographic, I think that's right.

Yeah. Like, if you are really, if you know exactly what you're looking for and you fall into like them or niche kind of category, then maybe that's not true. But definitely, like, the main street, like what we're seeing if you're just like, if you're, if you're perusing the most popular stuff on J-Crew, Avocrombee, or then even like shop-op or, you know, some of these other, or Nordstrom, that's a, that is what you are seeing for sure. Yeah. Yeah. I also had in my outerwear, non-down vest.

I'm seeing more and more vest that are just fabric. Okay. I'm just more, it's the workwear. It's the, it's, it's not workwear. I don't want to just say workwear. It's like straight up mechanic stuff. Yeah. Like, it's straight up like the car harvester. We're no longer, we're no longer dressing like we're going fly fishing. We are now dressing like we're going to a garage to go work on our classic car. And so I had a couple examples in here from, let me see, let me pull them up real quick.

I had a Ralph one as well as one from Canoe Club, Frism Works. Yeah. And I don't know, I think that, I think there's a lot of people out there that are hesitant to dive into vest and I kind of understand it. But I, I've always loved a vest during the colder times. It's just as a nice compromise for me to not have to wear a jacket and feel like I'm going out into colder weather. Yeah. I like having the vest option. And for me, I got, so, I was so worn down on down vest.

It's just, you don't want to feel puffy all the time, but it's still nice to have a layer on a lot of the time. And so I am very much gravitating this way. And I've actually already bought a vest this year that looks very similar to the Ralph one. But I bought it, I mean, if you look at the Ralph one, it just looks like a vintage vest. Yep. And I got to the point where I was like, okay, do I need to buy a new vest that looks vintage for how much is this one, 250 or something? Let's see.

Like it's, it's not, it's not nothing. I'll say that. Let me see. Yeah. 248. Yeah. So do something nice for the world. It does look sharp aligned. Dip into, yeah, it is. Dip into eBay. Okay. And just hop on and I found a 90s, like early 90s LL being vest that looks pretty much, not exactly like this one because it zips all the way up. Has it come in? It has come in. And I could not have been happier with the fit of it. Look at you thrifting.

And, but now I've, I'm kind of transitioning now to being like, wait, when it comes to outerwear. When it comes to the heavier items, we live in Texas. Right. We're not getting that many opportunities to do the, to wear these things. I'm going to live on eBay when it comes to this stuff for the foreseeable future because I'm okay with wearing something secondhand. Yeah. I don't mind buying it on eBay.

I've had enough good experiences between summer and fall now that I feel comfortable buying stuff. I have a guide that I will reference maybe later, maybe just right now from what, let me see where it was. It is, um, hold on. Noah Daniel White. He's got a sub stack. That's probably my favorite, um, male driven sub stack these days. He does a lot of men's fashion, but he also does a lot of home stuff. And he just did it. Just the glasses dude from Canada. I think, I don't know.

I followed, I followed his sub stack before I even knew he was. He said, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, uh, he, his sub stack is great. He just put out one called online vintage shopping guide and it really just tells you like, hey, here's what measurements to get. Here's how you look at stuff like sleeve length, body length, uh, just everything. And then he kind of gives tips on where to go.

Like don't go to grailed because they're taking ridiculous fees. Like eBay's got all the best stuff right now at sea. And he just kind of gives a good overview of how to shop for thing or shop for vintage. And while I'm not trying to shop everything vintage, when it comes to outerwear and, and how little we wear it in Austin, I'm totally okay with just buying. I'm just going to be buying a vintage coat and doing it.

And like, when it comes to like the vests that already look vintage on Ralph, I'm totally fine buying one from a brand that's like, it's clearly lasted, you know, 30 years at this point. Sure. I'm going to put that on. But I am seeing a lot more vest that aren't just like down vest and I kind of like the idea of that. Okay. I don't like the vest that only zip, the one that we just had pulled up from Ralph. I don't like the vest that only zip to right here. All right.

I think it leaves you a no man's land up here. If you're wearing a t-shirt, it looks like you need something else on. And if you're wearing a button down in a vest that just looks like you're going to go to like a tailgate at an Ivy League football game. I am not a vest guy, but I kind of like the, I like the halfway zip. Maybe that's the compromise. I've found that Texas, people, men in Texas are much more versed to vests than men in the Northern states. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, that's true.

I don't, I don't have a reason why and I don't really care either way. So okay, I actually think that our weather makes less sense for vests. I don't think that my, again, I know that doesn't make much sense. No, I don't think my love for vests is justified in any way, shape or form that makes sense. I just like having it on. I feel like Northerners are, one they're built different. So like you, you 50 degrees for you, you'd probably be great or well, maybe not you now, but not now. No, not now.

But for a normal, or for a, for a current Michigander, I feel like 50 degrees and you're like T-shirt vests are good to go. Oh, for sure. For sure. Every single year, the second and weather goes down below 60. The first thing I do is I take a screenshot of the weather and I send it to my two friends in Michigan and I say T-shirt and vests season. Maybe. Right.

So if, and then like, you know, I think about these kind of cooler looks with vests where maybe it's like, maybe it's like a chunky sweater and then like a vest over that. But it's, but so it's, it's almost like, it's like this middle ground that just doesn't exist that much in Texas. I don't know. It's just like when it's cold, I would either want to be in like a hoodie or a crew or like a sweater of some sort.

And then if it's a little bit colder than that, then I want to, I want to floss a lightweight jacket. I want to put on some outerwear, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I don't know. But a big thing for me is simply just having another layer. Yeah. Sometimes if I go out in a sweater and I'm going out at night and I know it's going to be cool outside, even if I know I'm going to be inside most of the night, I just like having that next year layer just as like a security blanket almost.

That's my thunder jacket for when I'm out in public and getting social anxiety. I want to talk about one more brand quickly. This is a brand that I just discovered. It's South Korean brand. The South Korea is doing, I mean, they have all the new hot brands. It would seem TBD on which one's kind of last and make it. This brand is called Core COOR. Listen up, ladies. And they are, I like them because they're basically hitting all of the current notes.

So you're going to see stuff that looks like vintage leather. They got the baggy jeans. They got the zip up sweaters. They have another thing that is still definitely popping is like oversized button ups that kind of look like like like shirting from 1998. Jay Crew has officially released their oversized, what did they call it? Oxford, the giant Oxford giant. It's back. And I think I think it's time to bring back oversized Oxford Thursdays. Okay. But so like this is a great one here.

And let me pull up their end-scrim too because there's like a nice little, you can kind of see all of the outfits just kind of right there in one. And it's just, it's all, it's, I mean, talk about your reds and your earth tones, right? Yeah. This has it all and it's very much just, it's very current. It's kind of all the stuff that's been happening for the last few years, just kind of diffused into one really cool and approachable label.

That's the great thing about the South Korean label is that they are, they're not inexpensive but they are not, they are not as expensive as even like as, as this like the Scandinavian brands that are doing similar stuff like, like, like, acne or our legacy. I went to Norse projects earlier. Yeah. Just to do some research and I could not believe what Norse projects stuff costs these days. It was just, it's so much more expensive than it used to be. Talk about some trends, Will. Well, hold on.

Can we do one more outerwear thing before we go? Yeah. But I'm sensing a vibe shift. It's feeling a little cool in here, a little club cool in here. Is it big coats season again? Are we doing big coats again? I think we might be doing big coats. Hand up. I have never owned a jacket that goes past my fingertips and I am very scared to do so. It seems like a big purchase. It seems like a big deal when you get one. It's a statement piece. I'm scared. But I want one.

Yeah, in the CC days, it was the era of the BPC, the big plaid coat. And I'm seeing less plaid, but I do think that longer coats. And when we're talking about all the cropped jackets, but when it comes to coats, I think we might be seeing a little bit of return of like the long top coat. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I think they're trying. They're making an attempt.

I've given myself one splurge item this fall because I don't have that much that I actually need right now and I've done some decent shopping through the summer for it. So I'm giving myself one splurge this fall and it will probably be for a longer coat. Okay. But I'm scared. I'm playing so scared in this realm. So just a quick reference, 18 East, just earlier this week, launched their long coat pre-order. People love these things.

They're very, they're always go crazy for 18 East's big coat offering. And I'm just, I'm seeing more of them. The sad story actually. I took a top coat that I've had for over a decade from Rag and Bone, made in the US, awesome piece that I had not worn for several years, finally took it to the dry cleaners last year. Took it, brought it back, put it in the closet. And I pulled it out just this week to try it on and they shrunk it. They shrunk it bad.

This isn't helping you because I feel like you're always like kind of under the radar or a war with the dry cleaner. So a little bit. I hate this is why I hate taking stuff. You hate the dry cleaner. I hate the dry cleaner. You've made me hate the dry cleaner too. Okay. But last time I went to the dry cleaner, I got two flat tires. So I really hate the dry cleaner right now. Let me tell you, I'm going to, I'm putting them on blast. Sorry I have to do this.

But if you go to any place that's like an eco friendly dry cleaner or whatever, the one in Austin that I'm putting on blast is called an eco clean. They are not dry cleaning your clothes. It's a wet, it's a wet, it's a wet, it's a wet, londar. They are soaking it in water and soap mixture. They just call it dry cleaning because they say that it's more delicate. It's not good. If I had taken this to capital cleaners who's just using the harmful chemical stuff, this wouldn't have happened.

Go to a traditional dry cleaner, talk to them about how they handle delegates. You, you, you, you, you, I'll say just spray all the from out of height or whatever it is on your shit, get it clean, don't let it shrink, don't let them iron your shit, don't let them starch it. You want them to use the nasty stuff, but then go easy on all the pressing and that's everything. I get it. Yeah. I mean, I think you and I both make a lot of concessions in life in order to further the environment.

And I think that you and I should not feel guilty about taking our clothes to the dry cleaner and using the nasty stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And because I don't, it's not like I'm dropping baskets of laundry off to get doused in chemicals. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like the number of times that I go to the dry cleaner per year is maybe three. You've changed my behavior. I used to have a few items. I used to over dry clean.

I used to bring stuff all the time and now I will wear stuff until it is unwearable. Like smells has a stain on it, whatever. I will just wear it until I absolutely have to bring it and it's made my life a lot better. Yeah. Randy, do you have a large shack? You'd like to, you'd, Randy's got a whistle. Yeah. Randy was just talking pre, pre-pod about he's that this is his new whistle. Yes. This is a bear's throwing up there. It's a, it's a coat from the nobo.

Our friends, our friends have been nobo. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Are you popping that collar, Randy? I'm not. I can see Randy walking into a bar in the middle of winter popping that collar. He goes to, I can thighs probably close to knees and it's the camel color too. I've been, like, is I have a pea coat that's black already, but like this camel color, I'm like really pretty. I'm a total for large camel coats.

Yeah. Like when I see a dude, like, when I was a little kid, if I saw a dude walking to church with like a big cashmere, I was just like, who's that baller? Yeah. Are you going to size up on this Randy so that you look like a dead, dead in home alone? I don't know. It's funny. I've seen three times. Kevin Peter McAllister is who I'm thinking of. Maybe I would pull up. It's like this guy, he goes, guys don't want money or power or love. What they want is a cool jacket. That's it.

Yeah. It's a dress or knees. That's true. It has a pop collar. Yeah. So, I don't know. I'm really liking this one from our friends over at Beno Loos. Yeah. Bear before we get into trends, can I speak to our friends over at Shopify? Please do. Here's the thing. There's a lot of business that are selling things through the roof. Anything from all of it to all birds to skims? Sure. They make a great product, but a cool brand and brilliant marketing.

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Go to shopify.com slash scary to upgrade your selling today. One more time shopify.com slash scary. Let's talk trends. We've kind of gone through some outerwear and let's see what else we kind of talked about some of the vibes that we're seeing. You have straight pants on here becoming the norm, the 90s fitted Avocombie. I feel like everybody at this point should know that it's straight is the bare minimum. I had a conversation with my brother-in-law while we were in Italy.

He was wearing some form fitting jeans, skinny jeans. He's a tall slender man. He can wear pretty much anything and it looks good when he does it. He's got those model proportions. Yeah, he does. Very jealous of that. He looked down at my pants and I was wearing straight leg khakis essentially and he said, I don't know how you do it. I was like, I told him. I said, the first time I wore these pants was to your wedding.

After your wedding, and at your wedding I did feel like I was wearing these blousey big pants. I know it's so normalized to me. The transition from skinny to straight leg is not that significant. In between that is Avocombie's 90s fit, which I bought a pair of their denim 90s fit jeans. It's a little more, they do feel very straight but they do cling to your legs a little bit more than what a straight leg would.

If you go to Avocombie, if you go to J. Crew, if you go to all the big hitter sites, you're going to see the first options that show up are going to be all straight leg at this point. It's a great compromise for the people that want voluminous trousers but don't want to live the voluminous trouser life. I don't want to live that life that much. I do have a couple pairs that are just strictly reserved for the cool weather.

But I think for our audience and everything, the straight leg is such a great spot to fall into that it's time. It's time to just do it. The fall is the perfect time. You're layering a bunch of stuff. You got these jackets going. Just do it. Just try it out. I'm imploring you. Yeah. What else we have? You have fabrics on here and tell me about a little bit what you're seeing because I've got, I'll piggyback on that. I think it's just more coat. It's very cozy, which is not new to fall.

For me, I'm seeing more stuff on websites that I want to touch. I am a big touch person when I go into a store. I'm the guy who's just grabbing stuff off the thing and just feeling it. It's such a texture play for a lot of these companies at this point that I'm just loving it. Some of it's a little too raw for me. I don't like the raw hams. They're not raw hams. I don't like when it looks like it's inside out and you have that texture.

Did you get the early access, some early on door email today? They had a couple sweatshirts that were like Terry almost. I liked them, but I was like, it kind of just looks lazy. But so much of what I saw while I was shopping was just simply stuff that I wanted to touch. I like that. Yeah, so I'm pulling this outfit from the shop-up shop-up ad up again. Because I think this is a really... The colors are the first thing you notice, but then everything is so textural.

Everything has a fuzziness to it or a depth. It's not flat. That's what I'm seeing in this vein is that dressing really nicely can be comfortable and cozy. I think about a brand like the Rho where everything is soft and and and and and looks, but it's really, really elevated and nice. I think about the quiet luxury brands. Yes. Like the Rho, Laura, Piana, Stofa, they all have that totally. That very clean lines, but where they separate themselves is just that texture.

This jacket is not crazily priced. It's from a brand I've never heard of called a wet AWET on shop-up. Then this outfit reminds me of a brand Ami Paris, which you might be familiar with, especially if you watch Emily in Paris. Oh boy, am I watching Emily in Paris? It is certainly at contemporary price points, but way less expensive than things like the Rho. I don't even, I love everything the Rho does. I don't even want to go to their website and get depressed.

It's not even worth, it's not even worth typing in the nine characters that I need to type in to go to the website. Okay. You've got footwear on your list. I'm going to let you start again because then because then I'm going to, I'm going to jump in. I need your help here. I'm so bored by all the footwear I'm seeing. It's sneakers that I think are fine and then it's just boring leather shoes.

Then I went on a couple of sites and saw that they were, they were doing Buffalo plaids stitching in these boots and I'm like, we're not doing that. This is, we're not going back to the lumberjack space. Back to the lumberjack space. I don't know why, but the one fabric, the one pattern that I've always hated is that Buffalo check, that Buffalo plaid. I just, I don't know why. I just don't like it. It doesn't feel authentic to me. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you.

I've had some Buffalo plaid in my life and yet it never really fulfills you. It feels like the starter plaid for people trying to go plaid and I feel like that's what like a lot of cheaper brands will like just do to make it feel like it's outdoorsy and I just, it's, it's cheap and it's the point where I just don't like it. Well, well, I've, I think I've got some bad news for you because shoes are boring this year. Shoes are boring.

Okay. The, the, the big trend that I'm seeing in shoes is quite, is, is pretty, pretty quite simply leather shoes. Yeah. And this is kind of a, so last fall, and last fall wasn't the first, first time, but it was, I think the most mainstream that it's ever been. But the, the Parabute Michael shoe, which you saw everywhere, which is a style of, of Derby called a Tyrelian, was everywhere. It was the, the kind of the shoe of the season.

If you were like a cool Brooklyn dime square guy like this, this is the style of shoe that you needed was this bit was this kind of chunky Derby with the big kind of apron toe that sort of looks like a wallaby, but also sort of looks like something different. I'm seeing so many heavy soles out here. And then, and I'm not talking better help. Should, should, should a hole stood that for earlier.

And then in the spring, I again, it wasn't the first season, but it was the most mainstream that we've ever seen fisherman sandals. It's been, it's been the era of the loafer for a few years now. And I am just, I'm, I'm just seeing a continuation and a furthering of that, basically. And I think it's where you'll see the most newness. So obviously the boat shoe is trying to make a comeback and we're seeing variations of that. How's that come back going for you? Well, I'm, I am, I'm well known.

I will tell anybody that asked that I'm way, way, way out. I feel like it's forced. That's so not for us. I feel like it's forced. I feel like they're forcing the boat shoe on us and I don't know if we're ready. But let me, let me, let me pull up like an example of, of, of an iteration of a boat shoe is what I would say that's also sort of a low top boot that is the type of like newness that you might see. This is a new silhouette from Doc Barton's. It's called a low. And I like this.

Like I'm, like I'm into this. Like this is, this is the perfect shoe. If you, if you're going for this kind of thrifted 90s vintage look, pair, pair with baggy jeans, pair it with like a cool crop jacket, right? And it's got elements of a boat shoe, right? Like it's got the, the, the, the leather laces with the eyelets on the, it's got some of the stitching. It's got them like the kind of mock toe. But then you've got the big yellow Doc Martin stitching on a super mean like lug sole.

It's, you know, this kind of shiny black leather with it. And so it looks, it's not a boat shoe. Yeah. This is about as close to a boat shoe as I'm personally going to get. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not there yet with like the, when it comes to wintery leather footwear, I struggle to expose my ankles, even with socks. Like I always feel like I need something that rides a little higher just to cover and go under my pants. But maybe it's because I have a weak sock game traditionally.

I've finally stepped it up last year and bought some socks, not like Zany socks or anything, but just, you know, some more colors that go with my wardrobe. But I've just always struggled to get into a shoe that leaves your ankle exposed in any way when it comes to the wintertime. Well, I, you know, I call it, I called that Doc Martin Lull kind of like a low top boot.

And that, yeah, that's, that it is, it can be weird to pull out like a derby or some kind of low top leather shoe in the winter because you kind of feel like it should just be a boot. Yeah. But, you know, that fashion is going to move where it does and people want things that feel new and fresh and that, you know, this is, this is where it's happening as far as footwear because everybody's locked in on their sneaker game now. You probably have a bunch of boots.

We've talked about the big lug sole stompers over the years. The, you know, hiking boots have obviously been big. And so I feel like this was kind of a, maybe a little bit unforeseen, but a natural landing spot because it's like, well, what do we have to go back to? Well, we haven't done derbies in a while. We haven't done, you know, we haven't done like a low top leather shoe that's like kind of dressy, but now we're making it more casual.

This is basically the type of shoe that's kind of like slotting in where a Clark's Wall of Pete might bits. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's that, that, that's what I'm seeing for shoes. Are zippers replacing buttons? I think they might be like, I don't know how I feel about this. I like a button. Yeah. Okay. I've got this last year we were fawning over the frisimworks all the way up. Cardigan that you could just button that thing up to the neck and call it a day.

Obviously had to go back to a canoe club and see what they had from frisimworks this year. And they went zip on them. At first I was depressed about the zip, but then the more I started looking at it, the more I was like, you know what? I think I might be doing the zip. Yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm not going to lie. I'm a little bit disappointed because frisimworks did bring that sweater back this year. Okay. And I was, I was, I was, I think the canoe club boys just bought them all themselves.

I was certain that canoe club was going to re up on them, restock them this season because they, they, I mean, they, they sold so well for them last year. And they didn't. They brought, they hit them with the, they hit them with the zipper version. I think I kind of like the zipper too though. Okay. I think, I, I think that I could convince myself to get in on the zipper. All right. But I'm, I'm, you should probably act fast. I'm not going to lie to you. Yeah. I am a button guy.

And so like, there is part of me that's just like, do I need to, do I need to bite the bullet here? But I, I, I'm still thinking about that from last year. And, and that's like the one piece that I, that escaped me last year. I mean, even after I discovered it, it was sold out on canoe club. It was sold out on their website. And I couldn't find it anywhere. It just bum me out. Bum me out. I'm going to run through a couple more trends that I'm seeing will do it.

I'm going to pull up the rundown because this is where I dropped some stuff. A lot of, a lot of things that to me, my best description of this, hopefully you're watching on YouTube is that these are outfits that kind of make me think of late 80s, early 80s. Like you're going to a club, but not necessarily like a club club, more like a, almost like mafia style, like a dinner club. Okay. Does that make sense? Can I just give him Michael Jackson, too? The one in the middle? Especially the one.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's got like this kind of like, like, kind of, but like, like, like sleazy New York City type of thing. I get it. I get it. I'm trying to make my comparisons right now and nothing's like jumping, jumping up to me, but I'm agreeing with what both of you are saying. And then kind of off the backs of this, what I'm seeing a ton right now in styling is exposed belt. Okay. And this, it's not as, it's not as simple as just throwing in a tuck.

It's more like, it's happening with layers. So like in this second example here, like, I got a guy doing like a pussy bow scarf with a henly and then kind of a French talk jacket over, but you can see the belt. And then here, this is, this is, and font, the premium reach or your, your, and font reach the premium. And like the t-shirt is just so cropped that you can see the belt. Yeah. Yeah. So it's that, that, this is where the crop stuff scares me.

If it's cropped enough to see the belt, that means it's cropped enough that you, if I've been to over to go pick something up off the ground in a coffee shop, you're going to see in some spillage there and I don't think you're going to follow the TikTok rose and just start chopping your t-shirts, just start hitting them with the scissors. No, I have to do that just because I have to, just the way that my proportions are, I have to chop shirts either way just to make them normal length.

I saw, for the first time ever, I saw dude, and Austin, it was at the grocery store he had on what was clearly like a vintage, thrifted t-shirt and he had, he had caught it so that it hit like just above the belt line of his pants. And he's like, crutches. I'm not, that's like very, that's the, you know, the, the fell is out in, out New York City or have been, been done that. But, no, this is the first time I saw, saw it in Austin.

Yeah. But yeah, so I'm seeing, just to wrap it up, tucked sweaters, maybe like a little half tuck, like that's everything. So it's not, it's not a straightforward, it's just talking. It's more, it's a little bit more layered and more complex, but I think belts, I'm seeing a lot of belts, belts are kind of back in the spotlight. Big belts. And you got exposed.

You opened my eyes up last year to belts, not, not just to belts in general, I was wearing belts before last year, but I had purchased a belt from Amelie on door, a Western belt that I was on my in and out list. You can do the bell, Randy. Never know. And when I got it, you looked at me and you said, why wouldn't you just buy that from somewhere else? And, and I thought to myself, why wouldn't I just buy that from somewhere else?

And ever since, I've realized that, yeah, if you see a belt that you like online, just Google that style and you can find one for less than $60 that will make you very happy. Most likely. Yes. It's just crazy. And like, it's just crazy the way that it works. So you, you changed the way that I looked at it now. And like I used to not buy belts very often because I was like, why don't I spend a bunch of money on this belt? Like no one even sees it most of the time.

Right. Now that I am operating under the find a cheaper version, I'm like, I'm, I have more belts in my life than I've ever dreamed of. I love it. I'm loving my braided belt. You can eat as much as you want at dinner and then just go into the bathroom and just loosen it up a little bit and don't even know. There you go. Uh, I had, let me see. I didn't have that many like trends that we haven't already touched on. I was seeing a lot of loud sweaters. I'm going to say something.

If you have a loud sweater that isn't from Fall Winter 24, that's grandfathered in. You're, you're fine in that loud sweater. I have loud sweaters. But I think we're getting a little too loud with some of these sweaters to the point where it's like, yeah, it's just, you're just, you're just doing a lot. Like I just, I'm not into like the, I mean, I'm not into the Cosby sweater right now just because you know, there's, you look at it, you don't want to be like, oh, nice Cosby sweater.

Like that's not what you want. This is the one that bear it up on the screen right now is from the, uh, the, just dropped yeah, the early release from ALD and like, is it a cool piece? Yes. If I saw someone walk into a dinner with that, I'd be like, you have the loudest thing on in this entire restaurant. Like this is, so this is such a like focal point of the, the, the table. I don't know. I'm just not into it right now.

Yeah. Out of all the ones that you've pulled up, I like the Abercrombie cardigan the best. I think I do too. Um, I, I think, and that's because I'm, I'm kind of with you like the, with the, with the loudest sweaters and you're, you're absolutely right that this is kind of like making a comeback. We saw it with the, uh, Daniel Craig, a little wave campaign.

Now I quite liked those, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, I think they have to be very specific and they have to be really, really cool to like, to make it work, you know, really interesting color theory working really well like all of that and you gotta be the right person to pull it off. I'm mostly with you. Um, I'm, I'm not really here for this at the moment. I used to be, I used to love like a fair aisle kind of Scottish lambswool sweater.

It's just not where I'm, it's just not where I'm, where I'm at right now. So you have a loud sweater that I've always loved and I've only seen you wear it one time. Okay. It's your Michael Jordan sweater. Oh, yes. Yes. I've never seen a real emergence for me of sweaters with graphics on them. Like you hadn't seen much of that until a L.D. dropped that and you got one and the reason I didn't get one is like, I don't, I don't think this is gonna work on me very much. I wear it like once a year.

I'm it's, it's yeah. I only saw you wearing a Christmas party one time. Right. Yeah. And, but I love it. Like, I think it's a great sweater. Uh, what else? Let's see. Um, I'm seeing varsity jackets pop up and I have to say I'm not into it. Like, I, it's, I don't know why we're trying to dress like we're in high school. Yeah. Like, I just, I, I think varsity jackets are, I think they are cool, but it's like, I just don't want to buy a brand new varsity jacket. Yeah. I don't know.

Like, so talking about like, oh, like, oh, would you major in in college? Like, that's like a lame conversation point. I don't want to look like I'm a varsity athlete. I like the look of varsity jackets. I like the, I like how the colors play together. I like the contrast leather sleeves. I think the patches are cool. I also agree with everything that you're saying. It's, it falls into the category of like fake event graphic tease type of thing.

Yeah. Uh, it also kind of falls into the category of like, I'm not going to buy a US open merch. If I haven't actually been to the US open, like, it's, it's, it's, it's kind of all those things wrapped into one where yeah, there's something to affect it about it, right? Like, all of these patches are not real. They don't mean anything. It's like, where are you going to wear it?

So, so to your point, like, what are you saying with this jacket that you wish you were in college that you wanted to be a varsity athlete? It's a cool job. You probably, you probably never had the makings of a varsity athlete. Um, is he rolling up the sleeves on this or is that how it's supposed to look? That's a old, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, maybe too long on them in the, in the style photo. Yeah. Yeah. They rolled it as those rolls. I guess it's an intentional roll.

I don't know if they need, I mean, they need to too because of the length of it. But what I will say, uh, like they're just off the top of my head, John Elliott did a couple of these last fall that were in very neutral color palette. It's like they did a black and black and then like kind of like a white, white tan. Yes. Maybe no patches. I was going to say, maybe we just go anti-patch.

And so that I, and, and that's how I think it works in a more elevated, like, way that, that makes sense is we like the styling. It's just, we don't really need all the patches. I received a patch, uh, with an order that I did. Uh, it was a, a grateful dead vinyl that I, a bootleg vinyl that I had bought and he included a grateful dead patch with it. And I sent in a DM and I said, Hey, I like this clear, I don't, I, in my correctance thinking that this is not an iron on and he said it is not.

I look at patches the same way I look at tattoos. They're not meant to just be like a temporary thing that you can remove at some point. You got a sore. He's like, you got to sew it on and it's a part of it now. Okay. And I was like, you know what? I like that. And so seeing like fake patches now, I'm like, yeah, we don't need those fake patches. Go get, go get your own patches. Actually, can I talk about that? Sure. Now, uh, I have certain things in my wardrobe that, Ashboy, I want to replace.

And this is the grateful data me jumping out. But I've certain things in my wardrobe that I'd like to replace at some point, but like, it's hard to get rid of an old vest that you're like in love with. And so this year, I was like, you know what? I'm just going to modify this old vest. I'm just going to decorate this a little bit. And so I put a link in here. Um, where is that? Let me, let me highlight it for you. Oh, I was up in my, uh, it's up in this section above where we are.

I just highlighted that. And so I posted this on Twitter. Um, I just put a grateful dead bear on this vest because I was like, I go to enough shit that I can get you out of this. But now I'm like, wait, I think I'm just going to start modifying some of my old stuff and like embroidering stuff. Just randomly. This is like your go to vest, though. I'm replacing it this year because it, so, I mean, I wore it so much last year that there are certain oils from my skin.

Okay. Things like that that have kind of seeped onto the vest on around the neckline and stuff like that. I'm just going to wear this vest out to things that I don't care about, but I like wearing that vest a lot in just pretty much every situation. So I will just be replacing it with a very similar vest if not the exact same model. Okay. But I'm like, you know what?

I'm instead of like getting rid of these things, I think I'm just going to modify them for situations that I might find myself in in the future. It was like seven bucks to get that done. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I'm just going to start doing stuff like that. It won't all be grateful dead. But when it comes to putting patches on things or kind of just making things a little more like me, I think it's kind of a nice compromise for me. And so doing it without her wears a really easy way to do it.

You, I think I'm just I'm pulling all of this stuff together, everything that you've said during this episode, you need to go on eBay, find a vintage varsity jacket with no patches. And then you can just patch it to death with grateful dead patches. Patch it to death. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I should. Yeah. Sally's been trying to, I mean, Sally knows this is a ridiculous ask, but she's been trying to get me to get a custom Bowie cord jacket. That's just all grateful dead.

I was like, no, buying a $2,100 jacket that is custom made is the only thing that I'm going to make is the least grateful dead thing you can do. Yeah. Yeah. Like you can't, you just can't do that. But I'm scared that one day she's going to, I'm going to, she's going to hand me a box at Christmas and I'm going to see what the box is and I'm going to be like, oh, you did it. I wonder if they, you got, I would be, let me rephrase it. I would not be surprised if they've done that before.

I'm sure they have. Right. I'm sure they've done it in some way. Like that's such a, like, it makes sense. Wealthy white guy hobby. Exactly. They've done a custom bodied jacket. That's a grateful bit. There has to be. And if there isn't one that's been like done exactly, like there's definitely been roses or a raffle. Or a red. Yeah. Maybe not a complete one. And that, I mean, really that's the thing. Like if you were going to do one, you should definitely include something that's a nod to that.

I just don't think the entire jacket should be. It just, it puts it into the, the term that is used is custody. Just people that are maybe in like the jam band scene who paid double for weed what they would do. And they show up wearing like the brand new shit. And like, so people call them custies. And it's a very, it's a very, yeah, it's very derogatory. And like, you just don't want to be that person. And, and yeah, who does want to be that person that looks like they're trying too hard?

Well, you think you think you're, you think we're over rug being, huh? We're over rug being. Like, I, everyone's got a rugby now. Yeah. Okay, with rugby's, I love rugby's. I actually missed out on a rugby the other day. Oh, I should have put that in there. I'm not sure I've ever seen you in a rugby. It's because, and I feel like it, it would work for you. It's because some of my, actually, I probably fit in them now.

But over the last few winters, I have been between five and 10 pounds a little too heavy for my rugby's. Okay. For some reason, and maybe this is just how some of the rugby's work cut. And I think they're moving away from that. It's some of them are baggy in the sleeves and slim through there. Right. Right. And so it's just a little more difficult. That's kind of like an authentic cut, I think, for them. I think so. And so I found this shirt the other day. Now it's completely sold out.

And I was so bummed that I missed it because I was like, this, this company sells out a lot. I'm going to drop this in here. I'll put it in right under where we just wear a bear. It's a company called William Ellery. I think they might be Canadian. But they put out this rugby. And this was like my favorite one that I've seen in a long time. I like the pocket.

The cut of it is very square and wider through the body, which I think with a, with the rugby, I want to be able to wear it over a t-shirt. I want to be able to wear it as a popover when I'm going out. And this one for me was like the best one that I've seen in a really long time. And so I was into it. I'm quite surprised that the price here from William Ellery because I'm pretty sure their hats cost $165. Yeah. That's part of the reason I was kind of into this.

I was like, oh, for, for, yeah, their hats are crazy price, but they're very custom hats. Yeah. But this was, this was the first rugby that I saw that like really moved the needle. I think my issue is that I feel like we're mailing in a lot of the rugby's that are being found on a lot of the big sites right now. And I think that we don't need to be mailing it in. Yeah. I've got like maybe, I think I've got one or two rugby's. I, I like them. I'm very attracted to them.

Sometimes they, I don't know. They're almost like the buffalo plaid. Like when I wear them, I don't necessarily feel fulfilled in a fashion sense. Yeah. I don't feel like I'm like invincible. Yeah. You know, like, there's some things you put on there. I feel so good right now. Yeah. I almost feel like I'm like a little kid going to school or something. Yeah. Yeah. But I, I want to get there. And I think I dropped a capital one at canoe club on a wish list a few weeks ago. I really like that one.

I, although I think it's going to be way too oversized for me. There is one that's been previewed in, in the, in the ALD lookbook that looks absolutely sick. But I, I feel like it might be the piece of the season. And I'm worried it's going to be $700 because I think it's wool. I didn't even get close to adding anything to my car today. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. Like, didn't even get close. Yeah. It was a, it was a pretty mid drop. And maybe this is a compliment to them.

But the trends that I was seeing on every other site were not infiltrating ALD on their early release today as much as other sites. Yeah. There's that, there's that selection of like, of like work jackets. And there's one in a really cool rust color that I, that, that's the one piece that I quite like. You and I are very on the same page on this. But I thought the other one was cool. But then what bummed me out was when I clicked in on it, I didn't want the leather.

Yeah, I didn't want the leather trim. Well, the, well, it, it was, and it, I think it went beyond that for me. It's like, I didn't hate the leather trim. But I didn't like the little, the, the rivets on the collar on the, yeah, I'm just going to pull it up because since we're talking about it. But like, it's not a quick pull up since you have to go through the email. Did I miss? Like these little, there's basically like these gene rivets on, on, here we go.

And I, I, that, that, that I wouldn't feel in those. Yeah. Yeah. That's a completely unnecessary detail. Are you not, are you not very unnecessary? Very unnecessary, very unnecessary. I'm not usually against leather in this situation, but there was something about this where I wanted it to be fabric or corduroy or something. Yeah. And the, the leather for me was like the deal break.

I mean, I, I probably wasn't going to get it anyway, but this was the one thing that I clicked, I clicked into the other one first. But then I was like, wait, the red is much better. Red's in. But when I saw the leather, I was like, yeah, I'm not into it. Yeah. Not going to happen. But like, it's a great looking jacket. Yeah. It is very idiotic. If I saw someone walking on the street and that, I'd be like, I'm really glad you got that. Yeah. I'm jealous, but it just wasn't great.

It wasn't there for me. Great pocket architecture. I like the slash zipper pocket on the jacket. The pockets are delightful. And then the pockets, the, tell me, are there pockets behind those pockets? They are. So you can, you can drop in on the sides or feels like around Jersey Shore with the shirt, shirt before the shirt. Got the pockets within the pockets within the pockets, baby. Yeah. Pockets are in, man, if only totes had more pockets. If only totes had more pockets. Maybe they might.

Are we missing anything from this? Have we not gone in on anything that we needed to? Man, I think we're about covered. I just have a few things that we've kind of talked about already. Just kind of like what, what I think I'll be doing. We talked about the long coats already. I got to trim down my pants collection and even more than that, I got to trim down my button up collection. I have so many flannels that I don't wear.

And I don't get rid of them because they still fit and they still look at them. They're so in great quality. And I, you know, I, it's like going to your closet, Barrett, if you didn't wear it last year, they're, you know, make an assessment. There's, there's something, it's like a, it's a flannel though. Like it'll be back. Like it'll come back. Like I'll want this eventually. And I, but no, no, no, no, no. They will come back, Barrett.

But then they'll end up buying one from capital and then like you're like, and then you're going to have the same problem. Yeah. Yeah. I know. But, but here on that same note, I have had stashed for many, many years now a pair of dark Navy blue lace up derbies that I purchased that are a long vand that I purchased. I think when I was working at Barney, so like over a decade ago, I think these shoes are over 10 years old. And like I think they're like they were perfect to be brought back out.

They've got like a chunky sole. That's really cool. They're a low top leather, dirt like, and I'm absolutely pulling those out this year. So I'm very glad that I hung on to those. So it's just, it's, I'm good about getting rid of stuff typically, but I don't believe you are. I am. I am. But, yeah, you shouldn't believe me. But the shirt, the button ups, that's glaring for me. I've got way too many. More than I could ever wear in a season. And so I've got to trim down. I've got to do it soon.

I've got to get them listed on eBay or D-Pop. Grail is like a, Grail is a nightmare right now. I heard Grail is just killing people on fees lately. Well, they're killing people on fees and, and, and, and are they skimming off the top? I saw some allegations there. And I just, I don't think anybody's bought. I think, I think there's been kind of an exodus because stuff is not moving for me on Grail like it used to. Yeah. I think more people are shopping eBay and D-Pop. I'm loving eBay.

I, I downloaded. So when I started, when I decided that I wanted to start diving into more vintage stuff and trying to find those cool items for like $50 instead of $500. Right. I downloaded D-Pop. I downloaded Grail. And I downloaded, I read downloaded eBay. I hadn't used eBay in years. And eBay is a dangerous drug for me. Once I started eBay and I can't stop eBay. And they're so good at their emails of stuff that you've looked at before that you're just like, all right, yeah, I'm buying that.

But eBay for me is like, it's been the most consistent and I feel the best about it. So I've just, I've just rode that train. I don't even have the other apps on my phone at this point. Okay. Guess I got to start eBaying. Ralph Lauren's also putting, definitely going to listen to this and be like, you should start buying more things second in like will. No, no, I see that's the thing. But I also know that that's a difference between us.

Like I, I know that you're not as into that as I have started, started to be. But like when it comes to certain, I got a couple pairs of Patagonia shorts from eBay that I've like immediately gotten the mail and I was like, yeah, didn't work out. These are crusty. Like, like, these are a little crusty. So it's hit or miss. Yeah. Ralph Lauren's also doing a bunch of long hats, like Longville fly fishing hats. We're not doing that. You don't want to do that?

You don't want to do a long, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everyone will laugh at you if you walk in wearing the sandlot. You don't want to look like smalls from the sandlot? Yeah. We're not doing this. So like, just don't even think about putting this in your cart. I will make fun of you behind your back. What if I like, what if we like go to Colorado, like on a fly fishing trip and I just, and I just like bust out this hat on the river. Then we will go to whatever small city we're nearest.

We'll go to the fly fishing shop and we'll give you a legit one so that if you ever wear it in public when you're in New York, Austin, wherever you want to be, that no one can, no one can say, oh, you're appropriating. You're gonna be like, no, this says, mint turn fly fishing on it. Yeah. Should we do some articles of interest real quick? We can blast through. I want to blast through them because we've got some good ones this week and just things I want to talk about.

So then I started blasting. There's a sub-stack article from melted cheese on whitefish.substack.com, Elite URL. Why did we not name our sub-stack? I don't know why we didn't do that. But it's just, it's called, it's time for American to embrace Ladcore. It's essentially just saying everything we've been saying. He's tired of guys being at American soccer bars on their phones, just like watching stuff. He's like, no, being Ladcore is more than just dressing the part and stuff.

You got to, you got to act the Ladcore. I feel like it's a great sign for the future of American soccer that not North, but the son of Kanye and Kim, his name is slipping my mind. Yeah. I don't know his name. He's out there wearing everything, real Madrid kits. Oh yeah. Well, there were rumors floating around that Kim and Jude Bellingham weren't had a little thing. Oh, okay.

But then she was posting photos of like him posing with like the kids after a game and stuff and it was like, yeah, I don't think there. Before I botched this, please pronounce the name of the other guy that's a big star on Real Madrid. Venetias? Yeah. Venetias. Okay. Yeah. I know he was hanging out with, they had a meet and greet with Venetias. I thought you were going to ask about Mariso Pochettino. No. The new USA coach. No, but I'm bullish on Pochettino after we, you know who I'm out on?

Now that we're in the footy talk, I'm out on Pulasik. I think he sucks. I think he's a leader. I think he is milk toast. I think that he has no sway in a locker room. I think that Pochettino should probably kick him to the curb like the women had to do to Alex Morgan. I don't watch enough of Pulasik at this point because the USA, if it's not a major USA game, I'm not watching the friendlies and he went to Milan and I don't watch Syria. Maybe now I will since I'm a comolFC boy.

But yeah, with the waste is getting back together. Yeah. I'm really solidified that Ladcors just sticking around for good. I saw a lot of elder millennials and, no, maybe it was younger millennials. I saw a lot of people around our age on the various social media platforms that, and maybe they were just baiting. Maybe they were just like, like, were they doing the baiting, but they kept asking all these questions like, wait, oh, is this his popular question mark exclamation point?

So if you don't know why OAS is a big deal, yes, they were not, they were not the most popular band in America. They had like two or three crazy big hits, obviously, Wonderwall. Wonderwall, champagne, supernova, like one, two punches. Top among them. But they were the biggest band in the rest of the world. Yeah. They were massive globally. They just weren't as big in the state. Do yourself a favor.

That's why people are obsessed with this is because outside of America, they were the biggest band in the world. If you listen to Oasis, if you listen to their studio albums and you just like, put it on, it's just rock music and it's good rock music. If you go on right now, they put up, they pay well the ton of their stuff on various streaming platforms, but if you go to Amazon Prime, right now, they have, it's called Oasis. I think then and now or now and now.

Can you listen to Oasis on Spotify? No, you can listen to it, but a lot of the concerts and stuff like that. They have a documentary out that's a really interesting look at just their entire trajectory. This is from their main road performance. I don't remember what year it was late 90s. He's just rocking an umbro track top over a button down shirt and some plain pants. I'm like, yeah, I want to drink beers with this guy.

If you watch one of their shows and you look at the crowd, you realize, oh my God, the power that these guys have. Just go look at it. Go watch the first 10 minutes of this documentary that just takes two different or three different concerts. Look at it and just be like, yeah, this looks fun. Look at the lab culture here. These guys are a band called HiViz, who I just listened to for the first time before this podcast and I have to say it.

Lad fall is getting run back for like the fifth year in a row. Cannot wait. That's what's, and that's honestly, that's what's, we're going through trends in fall passion, but what one of the, I mean, you know, you can frame it however you want it. Some people don't like it, but I think that's a cool thing about men's fashion right now is that you can still be in like, sombers and track top.

And that's like, just as in as like, being in one of these weird, like, 70s outfits for being in fully decked out in the row. Or you know what I mean? There's so many different lanes that you can, that you can cruise down and very much be saying something that's fashionable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's an interview that I watched last night of Liam Gallagher talking about how all these guys don't dress themselves, they got stylists, whatever like that.

And you look at how he dresses and you're like, yeah, he doesn't put out the vibe of a guy who wants to be told what to wear. And like the way that he dresses, it's like so iconically fashionable just because it's him that like, it works and it's still, it's still doing stuff to this day. US Open, everyone, everyone who's anyone went to the final. Yeah. And I feel, I feel like, I feel like such a twat because I, you're such a wanker, dude.

I've never, like, while the US Open was happening, I watched more US Open than I ever have before and I was like, God, I want to go to the US Open so bad. And then of course, that's how everybody feels. Yeah. It's the hottest it's ever been and I'm just a lemming and of course I want to go because all the glitter out here there and tenant and like, and so I, you know, I hate myself for that. But guess what? I really want to go.

Well, hey yourself, Les because I am currently married to somebody who's taking it one step further and is trying to do Wimbledon and I'm like, we don't need to do Wimbledon. Yeah. But no, but I don't, like Wimbledon school, I would go to Wimbledon. I do not have the same, like, crushing desire as the US Open. As the US Open. See, for me, it's more Wimbledon driven just because I grew up liking that more and for some reason, maybe it's because a lot of the matches are in prime time.

I don't find myself watching a lot of prime time sports because I do my sports watching in the morning. Right. And that's why I like Wimbledon so much too. It just makes it easy. And so I, I miss a lot of big matches because I'm usually watching something else. But this year I did prioritize a few matches at night and I enjoyed it. I mean, do I want some hundred dollar chicken nuggets just for the Instagram photo, I think. Yeah. I mean, I want like, like, $23 for a honeydust.

Like, you could charge me 40, bro. Take, just take my debit card right now. Just to just take it. But like, do we need chicken tenders with a caviar on them at the US Open? Well, I think we need everything with caviar on it. So I had to do something. I bought a small tin of caviar for a Sunday scary shoot and I used about one single bump of it before putting it back in our refrigerator and forgetting about it for months on end. And so the other day I wasn't keep. I don't think it does.

And so the other day I found myself scraping this, this caviar container and just getting rid of all of it. And I was like, this is so depressing. That is pretty depressing. I kept the tin just for future photo shoots. So I don't have to do that again. Yeah, I just don't know if we need hundred dollar. Like I mean, concession prices are ridiculous, but if you're going to spend a hundred dollars in something concessions, I guess doing it with some like, is it onion dip?

Like what it's just, it's just, it sounds good, man. It does sound actually kind of good. What else would you pair with a $23 honeyduse besides $100 chicken? It's a good question. It's a good question. I'd rather eat that than eat like a $23 hot dog with US Open sauce on it or something like that. Speaking of things that are overpriced, well, we finally have a photo of the $1500 Laura Piana new balances. And I'll tell you what, they're pretty beautiful.

There are, but like $1500 for a pair of new balances. Like these, look, people are out there buying $1500 for off-white Jordan. Yeah, but $1500 for off-white Jordan's like at least like the materials are good here. Yeah, but this is the, this is the meme of the guy walking into the party saying like, they don't know these are Laura Piana new balances. Like $1500 for a pair of sneakers is crazy. Do you think Kendall Roy is getting in pair of these? Yeah, for sure. Are you watching industry yet?

You know what? I started industry this week. I've watched season one episode one. There's, there's Kendall Roy comparisons flying around about a character and I love it because I think it's completely justified and correct. Over the last week, I've watched the Batman and I've watched episode one, season one of industry, both feature incredible club scenes. Yes. If you like club scenes industry is great.

I've just never been more desperate to like hammer a club until like 3am and like just like boiler room it and just like industrial house, just like fucking like rock. Like hit me with the steam guns, like the, you know, the compressed air that they blow down. I just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I need a Vegas trip. Oh, there's a, I need a hit of club. I think they go to hit of club.

Season two, I think they go to Amsterdam to go find something and they go to this club scene and the way that they shoot it is great because you can't understand the word that they're saying, but you know exactly what they're doing. And I was just like, this is genius. Like, I mean, for all the subtitle people out there, you're probably going to ruin it for yourselves. But like, it's just a very like the way that they did it is so authentically how it feels to be in a club.

It's like you can barely hear them, but you can make it out. It's just a well done show. I, it's a little red, the show's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, but it's such a good show. Who's, who's business are you going to print next? You know, we got to print some business. Yeah, we do got to print some business. Yeah. Yeah, I got to talk to my, I got to talk to my MP. Okay. Resort cork popping up. Apparently, having, you and I talked about this recently, how bad do you want to hit gift shops?

And then I got this real very shortly after. And so and I even had a buddy reach out who listened to the podcast and he was like, I, I have talked about this before. I think he was talking about in New Zealand. He was having the same issue that I was in Spain and he's, he, he talked about the business idea, even like, like, yeah, like these places, these cool, badass hotels, like, they need swag. They need, they just need, they need their, like, they need to get their merch tight.

But yes, this, this, this real from, from first class jerk, he's exactly right that this is a, it's like our generation is so into travel. That's, it's something that we like to flex. It's something that we like to show off. Like, this is, these are, these are feathers in our cap when we get to go to really, when we spend our hard earned money to go to really cool places, right?

And that's, I want to, I, you know, I want to remember that I want to, I want to be able to, to, to, that's the type of merch that I'm, that I'm into, right? Is the, is the things that, that, that represent more than just an interest, but a memory. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I like, I, like, the hotel we got married at, Montageley Go To Beach, they have like a pretty good gift shop, but I didn't know that we had a resort credit there one day until the last day of the trip.

And I was like, well, I can't go through this resort credit just like drinking and eating all day. I probably could, but I would feel terrible the next day. So I walked into the gift shop and I was like, can I use my resort credit in here? And they're like, yeah. And so I just bought a bunch of like hotel branded t-shirts and stuff like that. And like, I, I showed up in one to something and my buddy was like, are we doing like hotel athletes or now?

And I was like, I think we are, I think we are doing this right now. It's kind of an unnecessary flex and I do think it can come off as pretentious. But I do think that it is a very cool, like a good way of flexing. Like, yeah, yeah, I did that. Dude's have been doing this forever with golf courses. So like, if we can make this a little more approachable by not having it be golf centric, totally might as well do that. That's a great comparison.

The second you go to when we, I mean, rest in peace, Dell, Matchplay and Austin, Texas. But when you would go to that, my favorite thing in the world was to run into people that I hadn't seen in a while and be like, what Jackass Country Club polo are they going to have on that they're trying to flex here? First glass jerk, good content, good real. Just got to mention that I think you must follow some of these carries. I haven't been on his feet. I just got suggested that.

Yeah. There's a couple of accounts biting my ship right now. There's a top face, the little, you know, it's the faded out, no black point image, like, you know, to shut out to zero black points. Just saying. GQ wrote an article. I don't like it. Yeah, this is, I just mentioned like the, you know, the tweets that are just like clickbaiting to, to engagement hack. Is this the ultimate clickbait from them? Yes. Yes. It's 100%. I don't like clickbait GQ right now. I don't like the death of merch.

I don't like friends don't let friends wear chorecodes. I will say all these things are well written. They all have a case and I guess I can see their side. But I feel like they're actually going for shot clicks and I don't like it. What is the case? What is the, what did it, I think I read a paragraph of this before it was like, I don't have time for this. Just that they're overdone. Just like, there's, like, just that.

They fit such, for, for, for guys who aren't trying to go too far into the fashion world that don't want to spend hours and hours researching what they buy that just want to get staple good products. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with getting a chore code that is just a plain layer that you can toss on top and know that you're going to look decent and numerous situations. Right. Like, just, just, just get yourself a chore code.

I spent, like, I think I'm also much more into them now that we live in a place where it makes sense for a majority of our cold weather times. Yes, yes, yes. As opposed to living somewhere where it actually makes functional sense, but it just, if you're going to brain on chore codes, do that fall winter 2526. We're not doing that 24. It's not, we're not there yet. Yeah, yeah. I think the headline is what I don't like, like you said, it's, it, it, it feels to engagement hacky.

Yeah. Because you could just replace this every year with something that's become ubiquitous. Right. Somebody, somebody said, because, okay, on Instagram, it says, chore codes, bore codes, don't waste light, auto wear season by wearing a pass, do work wear silhouette. GQ's no of the Johnson gets into the link, it gets into it at the link in our bio. One of the top comments is, you know the writer's profile isn't private, right? We can see how he dresses.

Click on the writer's profile and then click on like the very first photo. He's essentially wearing a chore code and like the first photo. I mean, it's kind of like an overshoot, like whatever. I mean, you can't be dunking on chore codes when this is how you're dressing. Yeah, he didn't have enough swag for the, the, the, the click baitie headline. No, I will, that's, that's what, that's what I'll say. Floss your chore codes, ladies and gentlemen, and your barn codes. Uh, yeah.

At the same time, rebuttal on ourselves, you know, we're, we're no, we're no strangers to, to saying that things are in or out. No, we are not. I got a lot of work to do before next week's episode. Next week. Are we doing an out next week or should we, we can put to the week after if we want to. Now we should, I think we should do it next week. Okay. I think we should do it next week. Okay. Okay. I only have a couple and they're not, they're not that original.

So I need to, I really need to start. I'll, I'll get an in out. Once I get an in out mode, I can't get out of it. And so I'm going to hop in, uh, hop in now. Yeah. Right now. It's time. Um, I'd not even add any wishlist items right now because I'm going to pass on the wishes. Like there are so many links in here that it just doesn't even make sense. Yeah. Well, loaded episode. How are you doing, Randy? Doing good. I'm going to order some Chinese food for lunch.

Ooh. But, uh, looking, looking forward to the weekend, gonna, gonna actually get to wear some game tape all those, without Purdue on it. Barrett. Are you going to go to the record convention next month with Randy and I? Yeah. I don't know about this. They do a record convention in Austin every year. That goes really access Friday, pay five times the price of what it normally costs to get in. And they're not all set up. So you're paying extra to not see everybody.

It doesn't really make sense to me. But you are avoiding the crowds, uh, but they do it Friday Saturday, Sunday and it's going to be a, uh, what are you going to? EA? No. No. No. No. I was Sunday guy. Uh, I don't, I don't need to go in and be with all the crowd and get, yeah, when I, when I did the EA first year, uh, it was very much not totally open. And I was like, yeah, this is pointless.

So, uh, yeah, I think we're going to do something from there, but I might just force Randy to go shopping with me. Come on. Yep. Yep. Yep. All right. Big for in out fall 24 later.