It's Monday, September five. I'm Oscar Ramirez from the Daily Dive podcast in Los Angeles, and this is reopening America even a pandemic. Disruptions have faded and most schools have returned to in person instruction. Permanent virtual classes are being offered to protect vulnerable children. Districts in Texas, California, and New York are creating full time remote learning programs for
this school year. The virtual option may only be appropriate for a small percentage of students, but in an effort to fight declining enrollment and disruptions from families moving, virtual schools will remain part of the education system. Ben Chapman, education reporter at The Wall Street Journal, joins us for What to Know. Thanks for joining us, Ben, Thanks for having me well. Coming off of the pandemic, I know a lot of things have been easing up right now,
at least on the education front. I mean, we're almost completely back to normal. It seems to be in person learning is the way to go right now. But there are certain districts We're looking at Texas, California, New York, certain districts there that are providing full time virtual classes, and you know, some students are still signing up for it, you know, some with a certain health risk, others that
might have anxiety about going to school. It could still be a really important way for them to keep on learning. So then what are we seeing with this UM So Uh, this is a lasting artifact UH that is coming out of the pandemic, which is that UM, when the COVID nineteen pandemic UM hit and schools shut down, schools UM sort of figured out how to deliver internet lessons UM to students over a period of a couple of years.
And UM, what has happened is that school districts have added this tactic of delivering lesson and online to students who are not at schools UM to their toolbox. And UM, you know, so this is UM, you know, a new tool that school districts have UM that they're using to reach students. UM. And what we're seeing is school districts around the country are using remote internet based lessons UM to connect with the small percentage of students who want
virtual lessons rather than showing up in school. And again, this is something new that that did not exist really UM in any significant way before the pandemic happened, and to be clear, right, this is for a small percentage of students right now. I mean, the vast majority of students and parents probably do prefer their kids to be in school for in person instruction. But we're seeing uh, you know, one of these UH schools in particularly, it's
the I Learned Virtual School in Dallas. But they're saying, you know, maybe about four percent of students in Dallas this kind of option could be good for. So it is a small percentage of students that this would still
work for. That's right. That that appears to be about the UM ballpark figure that UH districts seem to be thinking, UM and researchers seem to be thinking, would be um, uh you know, preferring UM remote lessons versus in in person would be somewhere on the order of five percent, um,
four percent, three percent, six percent, some small percentage there. UM. And And basically, to to sort of contextualize it a little bit, UM, what we have here is UM this UH school year, something in the order of better than a quarter of school districts, to my best reckoning, are probably offering UM some kind of virtual school lesson UM.
The research shows that before the pandemic happened, Um, it was just about three of districts, So it's a it's a big increase in the number of districts who are offering these lessons, but the districts are saying that, you know, it's still something like, you know, four or five six percent of kids at those districts that are offering the lessons that are taking them up on on you know, uh,
taking classes at home rather than going to school. And thankfully, in all this, I mean, it's not too hard to implement, right at least now that more kids are back for in person instruction, there's limited infrastructure needs, it's not very expensive to operate, so some of these schools districts can offer this. And you know, one of the criticisms criticisms that was happening during the pandemic is kind of the academic setback or the emotional learning setbacks that were happening
because kids weren't interacting with teachers and other students. And at least for now, for some of these remote schools or schools offering these remote programs, this is a bigger part of what they want to institute. They want to make sure that they have the same goals for instruction the same goals for socio emotional development for these remote learners. Yeah,
it's UM. It's a way for them to you know, connect with with students that they feel like our best served UM with uh you know, not going to school in person. UM. And these maybe students who have UM, you know, health concerns about being exposed to the coronavirus or other UM, you know, illnesses that they could get exposed to being out and about in public UM. Or they could have a family member who could get sick if UM if they came back and and spread something.
Or perhaps their family is moving around and and this is the best way for them to sort of stay engaged in a school or UM. Perhaps UH the student is taken on some responsibilities around the house or even gotten a job UM, and so the remote lessons offer the flexibility for them to attend to whatever those other responsibilities might be. UM. So those are some of the different types of scenarios that we see students UM who
prefer these programs. UM. There are also kids who UM you know have uh psychological men you know, social emotional challenges, UM, who who may be stressed out, may they may have anxiety or or different um situations where they just feel more comfortable at home taking classes rather than going in. Well, we'll see how this continues, I mean for now though, we'll see this being kind of a permanent fixture. Well, what the future holds for remote learning, but at least
for now, we'll still see it around. Ben Chapman, Educational Report at the Wall Street Journal. Thank you very much for joining us. Thanks so much, have a great day, Appreciate it. I'm Oscar Ramirez and this has been reopening America. Don't forget for today's big news stories. You can check me out on the Daily Dive podcast every money through Friday. So follow us an iHeart Radio or wherever you get your podcasts
