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Renegade Marketers Unite

Drew Neisserrenegademarketing.com
Renegade Marketers Unite focuses on marketing innovators, uncovering the how, what and why behind their on-going success. Award-winning marketer, author, and entrepreneur Drew Neisser keeps these conversations interesting and inspiring, wrapping up each episode with on-the-spot analysis and insights for big marketers and those that want to be. For more information visit http://DrewNeisser.com/podcast
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Episodes

461: Pricing Power: Marketing's CFO Currency

Let's face it, most marketing metrics don't travel well to the CFO's office. Pricing power is different. It's measurable, margin-backed, and proof that your brand is strong enough to charge more without losing volume. To help make sense of it all, Drew brings in Chris Burggraeve , Founder of Vicomte and author of books on marketing and business strategy. Together, they discuss what pricing power means, how to measure it, and why it's the most powerful way to communicate marketing value to your C...

Jun 27, 202552 minEp. 461

460: GenAI Plays CMOs Are Running in 2025

🎙️ In this Drew-on-Drew episode, Drew puts penguin hat-Drew in the hot seat as they riff on how B2B CMOs are getting smart and a little scrappy with Generative AI, finding what works and sparking fresh energy across their teams. It’s a fast-paced convo sparked by real stories from marketing leaders in the thick of GenAI, testing big ideas, fielding questions from curious CEOs, and rallying their teams behind the experimentation. Throughout, both Drews dish out the practical, the surprising, and...

Jun 24, 202516 minEp. 460

459: The CMO as Chief Collaboration Officer

Be honest, when you think “CMO,” do you picture campaigns, brand work, or the de facto unifier of a siloed C-suite? In this episode, guest host Narine Galstian ( SADA ) leads a conversation with Katie McAdams ( Basis Technologies ) and Julia Goebel ( Komodo Health ) on how the CMOs role has grown into a key driver of org-wide alignment. It’s part diplomat, part coach, translating strategy across departments and turning zigzags at the top into coordinated momentum. In this episode: Katie shares h...

Jun 20, 202537 minEp. 459

458: Sales + Marketing: The Alignment Equation

Nothing scrambles a CMOs brain faster than parsing pipeline math with sales. Alignment starts with one number, owned together, and a shared path from first touch to closed won. Miss that, and both sides will be pulling their hair out debating what happened to the pipeline. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Lisa Cole ( 2X ), Dave Bornmann ( Higher Logic ), and Marshall Poindexter ( yorCMO ) to tackle the GTM strategy that frays the most nerves: sales and marketing alignment. In this epis...

Jun 13, 202552 minEp. 458

457: The CMO’s Executive Reputation Formula

The career mistake that haunts CMOs most? Waiting until they're out of a job to build their personal brand. In this Huddles Quick Take, reputation management expert Marc Reichel from Qnary reveals the three critical mistakes B2B executives make when building their online presence. Plus, he shares practical advice on creating meaningful engagement that enhances both your personal brand AND your company's visibility. What You'll Learn: How to identify and focus on the right target audience The opt...

Jun 10, 202527 minEp. 457

456: The B2B Product Launch Blueprint

Drew worked on the team that launched the Panasonic Toughbook by driving a Hummer over it on live TV! That stunt turned heads, sure, but it also drilled the product’s promise into buyers’ brains: tough enough to survive anything. The best launches find that one thing that matters, makes it unforgettable, and builds everything else around it. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Guy Yalif ( Webflow ), Chris Pieper ( ADP ), and Ali McCarthy ( Amplify Your Voice Studio ) to talk about why gre...

Jun 06, 202553 minEp. 456

455: From Positioning to Pitch: Making Your Messaging Stick

B2B CMOs know positioning matters—but too often, it vanishes when sales starts talking. In this episode, positioning guru April Dunford pulls back the curtain on the disconnect between marketing and sales and shares exactly how to build a sales pitch that wins. Drawing from her book Sales Pitch and decades of experience, April shares a battle-tested framework for building pitches that set the context, overcome indecision, and spotlight your unique value—without overwhelming buyers or falling int...

May 30, 202556 minEp. 455

454: The GenAI Reset: How to Simplify, Strategize, and Scale

Is your GenAI stack bloated, scattered, or underused? You're not alone. In this Huddles Quick Take, GenAI advisor Nicole Leffer delivers a fast-paced, practical deep dive into what marketers are still getting wrong with GenAI—and how to fix it. You’ll also learn why Deep Research may be the most powerful feature you're not using. Plus, Nicole shares how ChatGPT helped her build a full keynote deck (including visuals!) and how to stay on top of hallucination risks in strategic work. What You’ll L...

May 27, 202537 minEp. 454

453: The Discipline of Category Creation

Everyone wants to be in a category of one. But until analysts acknowledge it, customers search for it, and competitors show up, it’s not quite a category—more a call you made before the market did. Creating one means walking a line between leading the story and waiting for the market to catch up. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Bernd Leger of Cornerstone OnDemand , Charles Groome of Biz2Credit , and Jakki Geiger to share their insights into building a category from scratch. In this ep...

May 23, 202552 minEp. 453

452: The New Rules of Marketing Team Design

Marketing org charts may look innocent, but they’re loaded with meaning. Split your team into “revenue” and “corporate” and you’re sending a message, whether you mean to or not. Structure reveals philosophy. And in B2B, that philosophy had better be built for trust, speed, and results. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Kelly Hopping ( Demandbase ), Lesley Davis ( Waggoner Engineering ), and Gary Sevounts ( Simpplr ) to discuss how they’re shaping marketing teams that reflect clearer pri...

May 16, 202550 minEp. 452

451: Events with Intent: How CMOs Turn Brand Moments into Growth

You can spend six figures on an event and still walk away with nothing but badge scans and a fuzzy sense of brand presence. But when you treat it as a full-funnel campaign, that’s when the impact starts early and lasts well beyond the event itself. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Ellina Shinnick ( HUB International ), Kevin Ruane ( Precisely ), and Isabelle Papoulias ( EliteOps ) to explore how teams show up with intention and turn B2B events into focused, cross-functional efforts tha...

May 09, 202552 minEp. 451

450: CMO-ing in 2025: 10 GenAI-Powered Tactics to Stay Ahead

🎉 Episode 450 is here—and the Drews are doubling up to help CMOs meet the moment. With marketers everywhere facing a "do more with less" mandate, Drew interviews… penguin hat-Drew to unveil 10 innovative strategies to boost impact without burning out. From digital twins to synthetic research, from YouTube Shorts to GenAI-engine-optimization, this episode is packed with ideas that CMO Huddles members are already exploring—and you should be too. 🧠 Expect tactical inspiration. A little penguin ta...

May 06, 202521 minEp. 450

449: The CAB Playbook: Structure and Follow-Through

Most companies launch a customer advisory board with good intentions. A few emails go out, a meeting gets booked, and then… not much happens. But when CABs are built with the right structure and support, they can drive some serious value for the business and the customer. In this episode, Drew Neisser talks with Melanie Marcus ( Surescripts ), Marca Armstrong ( Sensera Systems ), and Marina Ilishaev ( Boardstream AI ) about what separates a one-off event from a CAB that earns ongoing attention, ...

May 02, 202552 minEp. 449

448: The CMO’s Path to the Boardroom

Think CMOs don’t belong in the boardroom? Think again. Today’s top marketers are stepping beyond the C-suite, bringing strategic insight, customer obsession, and data-driven decision-making to board-level conversations. But how do you actually make that leap? In this episode of Renegade Marketers Unite, Drew Neisser sits down with three marketing leaders who’ve done just that: Denise Vu Broady ( Collibra ), Peter Finter ( KX ), and Katrina Klier ( Sage Strategy Group ). They share how they earne...

Apr 25, 202554 minEp. 448

447: Rethinking Inbound, Outbound & Everything in Between

Inbound and outbound aren’t opposing forces—they’re two sides of the same motion. When marketing owns both, it opens the door for tighter execution, faster learning, and better performance. But that kind of momentum doesn’t come from chasing tactics. It comes from reworking how the work actually gets done. In this episode, Drew Neisser talks with Christina Kyriazi of PhotoShelter about how she rebuilt the company’s go-to-market engine from the inside out. From bringing outbound under marketing, ...

Apr 18, 202546 minEp. 447

446: The CMO's AI Implementation Roadmap

Is your 'go play with AI' strategy actually sabotaging adoption across your marketing team? In this Huddles Quick Take, AI consultant Tahnee Perry reveals the three critical mistakes CMOs make when trying to drive GenAI adoption and shares her proven 4-step formula for building a truly AI-savvy marketing organization. What You'll Learn: Why "go play with AI" is a recipe for failure and what to do instead How to avoid implementing AI tools without clear strategic goals The importance of addressin...

Apr 15, 202528 minEp. 446

445: Marketing + Comms: Getting in Sync

When marketing and comms teams aren’t aligned, it shows. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by CMOs Cary Bainbridge ( ABM Industries ), Laura MacGregor ( Center for Internet Security ), and Grant Johnson ( Chief Outsiders ) for a candid look at what it really takes to get marketing and comms moving in sync. From co-owning messaging to embedding AI tools and crisis plans into the mix, these leaders share how to stay coordinated without stepping on each other’s toes. Here’s what you’ll hear: ...

Apr 11, 202552 minEp. 445

444: B2B CMOs Deploying GenAI to Win

GenAI has moved past the “what if” stage. Now it’s more like, “what else can we use this for?” And that change in mindset is reshaping the day-to-day—from big-picture strategy to the smallest tasks. In this episode, Drew Neisser talks with Karen Feldman ( Iron Mountain ), Adriana Gil Miner ( Iterable ), and Jeff Morgan ( Elements ), three marketing leaders who’ve made GenAI part of their daily toolkit. They’re applying GenAI to content engines, campaign strategy, customer journeys—and they’re se...

Apr 04, 202556 minEp. 444

443: CMO Pep Talk: How to Own Your Job Search

CMO job searches come with baggage—pressure to be perfect, high expectations from CEOs and investors, and a market where one misstep can cost you. Add in emotional residue from your last gig, and it’s no wonder the process feels heavy. In this episode, executive recruiter Erica Seidel joins Drew Neisser for a grounded pep talk on how marketing leaders can take control of the job search. It’s about being intentional—knowing what you want, how to show up, and how to manage the emotional rollercoas...

Mar 28, 202546 minEp. 443

442: What CMOs Get Wrong About Career Transitions

The career mistake that haunts CMOs most? Waiting until they're laid off to build their personal brand. Career transition expert Catherine Altman Morgan reveals the three career management mistakes even seasoned CMOs make—and they might be sabotaging your future opportunities. In this quick-hitting conversation, Catherine delivers straight talk on building your personal brand, maintaining critical relationships, and positioning yourself for success whether you're job hunting or not. From market ...

Mar 25, 202523 minEp. 442

441: B2B Marketing Metrics That Speak C-Suite

In a perfect world, every marketing dollar would be easy to track and justify. In reality, proving impact is a constant battle In this episode, Drew Neisser brings together Julie Kaplan , Michael Callahan of Salt Security , and Bindu Chellappan of Corpay to explore the metrics that matter—and how to make sure they resonate in the boardroom. In This Episode: Julie Kaplan shares why marketing-driven pipeline is the metric that truly resonates with the C-suite—and how simplifying the conversation m...

Mar 21, 202552 minEp. 441

440: Leading in Uncertain Times

Every ten episodes, Drew Neisser turns the mic on himself to tackle the biggest challenges facing B2B CMOs. This time, it’s all about navigating uncertainty. From market disruptions to political shifts, CMOs are feeling the pressure. CFOs are tightening budgets, customers are hesitating, and entire industries are being forced to adapt. So, what’s a savvy marketing leader to do? Key Takeaways: Go Micro: Control the controllables—starting with yourself. Build personal resilience and create a stron...

Mar 14, 202517 minEp. 440

439: Video Testimonials: Social Proof in Motion

Buyers trust other buyers more than they trust you—that’s just reality. A great video testimonial is proof, reassurance, and persuasion all rolled into one, but that only happens if people actually see it and act on it. So how do you keep testimonials from collecting digital dust and turn them into a true sales and marketing asset? That’s exactly what Drew Neisser and Alexander Ferguson , Founder & CMO of TeraLeap , tackle in this episode. From getting customers to say “yes” to crafting stor...

Mar 07, 202546 minEp. 439

438: Michael Watkins’ First 90 Days

If you haven’t read The First 90 Days by Michael Watkins , what are you waiting for? This bestselling guide to leadership transitions is a must-read for any executive stepping into a new role, and it’s a staple in the CMO Huddles community. A CMO’s first 90 days will set the course—either laying the groundwork for success or paving the way for an uphill battle. Drawing on more than two decades of research, Michael Watkins joins host Drew Neisser to share essential transition strategies and revea...

Feb 28, 202552 minEp. 438

437: Positioning That Sticks: Winning Mindshare

"These are not the droids you’re looking for." Just like Obi-Wan Kenobi used a simple phrase to shift the stormtroopers’ perception, marketers need to pull off their own Jedi mind trick to capture mindshare for their brands. We call it "positioning." In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Joe Cohen ( AXIS ), Sara Larsen ( Wolters Kluwer ), and Carlos Carvajal ( Q2 ) to discuss the art and science of positioning—how to define, refine, and defend it in a crowded marketplace. Key Discussion Poi...

Feb 21, 202552 minEp. 437

436: Turning GenAI Possibilities into Reality

Gen AI isn’t just a playground for creativity—it’s a tool for real business impact. But while some marketers are embracing the possibilities, others are stuck in experimentation mode without a clear strategy. So how do you go from dabbling to driving real business impact with AI? In this episode, Lisa Gately , Principal Analyst at Forrester , joins Drew Neisser to break down how CMOs can lead the charge in AI adoption, avoid common missteps, and harness Gen AI to create real business value. Lisa...

Feb 14, 202551 minEp. 436

435: From Clicks to Conversions

Clicking is easy, converting is hard—let’s fix that. In this episode, Drew Neisser teams up with Sahil Patel , CEO of Spiralyze , to take a deep dive into what makes landing pages and home pages truly effective. But this isn't just theory-Sahil gets hands-on by breaking down the CMO Huddles home page and landing page, highlighting common pitfalls and sharing actionable fixes. What you'll learn: The biggest conversion killers on landing pages-and how to fix them fast. Why home pages need both sto...

Feb 07, 202544 minEp. 435

434: Unleashing Brand Love at Gusto

Would you rather get a root canal or run payroll? Most small business owners would have picked the root canal—until Gusto came along. When Jason Ing joined Gusto in 2022, the company's reputation for making payroll easy rang loud and clear. The next logical step was to transform that reputation into brand gold. In this episode, we explore the campaign that reinforced customer love while driving demand. In this episode, Jason breaks down: ✔ How Gusto turned a simple insight into a high-impact bra...

Jan 31, 202547 minEp. 434

433: Marketing to Your CEO + CFO

How do marketers bridge the gap between bold creative ambition and the hard-nosed expectations of the C-suite? In this episode, Drew Neisser chats with Kay Moffett of Amplify , Katrina Klier of Sage Strategy Group , and Lakshmi Randall to uncover how CMOs can align marketing initiatives with business priorities while proving their value to their CEOs and CFOs. In this episode: Kay Moffett reveals how Amplify’s podcast, Science of Reading, became a catalyst for a movement in education, driving pr...

Jan 24, 202549 minEp. 433

432: Master B2B Buying Mayhem

B2B buying has never been more complicated—or more critical for marketers to master. In this episode, Drew Neisser is joined by Dave Frankland , Forrester’s VP Research Director, for a sneak peek at Forrester’s 2025 B2B Summit and the theme of “Master Buying Mayhem.” Together, they explore the ever-evolving dynamics of buyer groups, self-service trends, and the growing influence of generative AI in the B2B landscape. In this episode: Navigating Buyer Complexity: Learn how to effectively engage t...

Jan 17, 202551 minEp. 432
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