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Relentless Health Value

Stacey Richterrelentlesshealthvalue.com
American Healthcare Entrepreneurs and Execs you might want to know. Talking. Relentless Health Value is a weekly interview podcast hosted by Stacey Richter, a healthcare entrepreneur celebrating fifteen years in the business side of healthcare. This show is for leaders in pharma, devices, payers, providers, patient advocacy and healthcare business. It's for health industry innovators, entrepreneurs or wantrepreneurs or intrapreneurs. Relentless Healthcare Value is the show for you if you want to connect with others trying to manage the triple play: to provide healthcare value while being personally and professionally fulfilled.
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Episodes

EP463: Medicare Advantage Policies—Which Will Stay and Which Will Go Now? With Betsy Seals

In this episode of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter engages with Betsy Seals, CEO and co-founder of Rebellis Group, to analyze the future of key Medicare Advantage policies amidst a changing political landscape. They delve into four critical areas: 1. Medicare Advantage Stars Program: Examining potential changes due to recent lawsuits and the new administration’s stance on quality measures. 2. Risk Adjustment and Government Oversight: Discussing the focus on recouping improper paymen...

Feb 13, 202535 minEp. 463

Encore! EP384: How Shareholders Impact Carrier Behavior, Exactly and Specifically, With Wendell Potter

In this episode, Stacey Richter explores how the demands of shareholders influence the actions of publicly traded health insurance companies with guest Wendell Potter. Drawing from Milton Friedman’s assertion that a business’s primary responsibility is to its shareholders, we examine the implications of this philosophy in the healthcare sector. The discussion highlights concerns about fraud allegations among major insurers and the lack of open competition due to market consolidation. We delve in...

Feb 06, 202535 min

EP462: Managing Populations of Whole, Actual People Who Are Not the Sum of a Bunch of Different Body Parts, With Scott Conard, MD

This podcast today is with Dr. Scott Conard, founder of Converging Health. You might remember him from the earlier episode ( EP391 ). First of all, I enjoyed how it came to be. Brian Uhlig, an employee benefit consultant of some acclaim, came to me and offered to sponsor a show for someone else. Not himself. I gotta say, it’s stuff like this that warms my heart. It’s this village that we have here, this tribe of Relentless folks trying so hard to stand up for and help patients. So, thanks again ...

Jan 30, 202534 minEp. 462

INBW42: A Philosophical Rabbit Hole of Considerations for Plan Sponsors and Others

In this inbetweenisode Stacey Richter dives into the complexities of benefit design in American healthcare. Highlighting insights from recent episodes with Bill Sarraille ( EP459 ) and upcoming episode with Scott Conard, MD, Richter explores the impact of cost containment measures and the moral hazard of insurance, emphasizing the importance of creating balanced and efficient benefit plans that align with plan values and avoid unintended consequences. She discusses the challenges and implication...

Jan 23, 202528 min

EP461: Pick Only One, Plan Sponsors: Do You Want to Control GLP-1 Volume or Control GLP-1 Unit Cost? With Chris Crawford

This episode with Chris Crawford, CEO of RxSaveCard, is not about the when, why, or how of GLP-1s for weight loss or best-practice prescribing. This episode very, very specifically is about the how and why of the pickle plan sponsors get themselves into often enough where if they impose formulary restrictions to limit the volume of meds that they are paying for, then unit prices go up, which is a thing for GLP-1s. And this is critical just given how the costs associated with GLP-1s for weight lo...

Jan 16, 202523 minEp. 461

EP460: Rushika Fernandopulle, MD’s Theory of Change Starts With Status Quo Healthcare

In this Relentless Health Value episode, Dr. Rushika Fernandopulle discusses with Stacey Richter his four-prong theory of change for transforming the American healthcare system. Key topics include the necessity of new payment models, process innovation, employing a relational technology infrastructure, shifting the cultural mindset towards team-based care, and emphasizing the importance of long-term partnerships. The conversation underscores the urgent need to move away from the current status q...

Jan 09, 202541 minEp. 460

EP459: Cost Containment by Co-Pay Maximizer or Co-Pay Accumulator: Points to Ponder, With Bill Sarraille

In Episode 459, host Stacey Richter speaks with healthcare attorney Bill Sarraille about co-pay maximizers and accumulators, mechanisms designed to extract maximum co-pay support dollars from pharmaceutical companies. They discuss the financial implications for patients, plan sponsors, and pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs), emphasizing the legal and ethical issues and potential patient harm due to high out-of-pocket costs and surprise expenses. Sarraille provides five key pieces of advice for pla...

Jan 02, 202540 minEp. 459

INBW41: End-of-Year Wrap-Up and My Personal Charter Encore: Where the Rubber Hits the Road

In this Inbetweenisode titled 'End of Year Wrap Up and My Personal Charter Encore,' Stacey Richter extends heartfelt thanks to listeners and healthcare workers for their dedication. She reflects on the challenges of maintaining personal integrity in a profit-driven healthcare system and introduces her personal charter. This charter, focused on ensuring net positive outcomes for patients, acknowledges that achieving transformational change in healthcare requires a collective effort. Stacey discus...

Dec 26, 202426 min

Encore! EP419: The Financialization of Health Benefits for Boards of Directors and C-Suites of Self-Insured Employers, With Andreas Mang

Are you on the board of directors of a company? Or are you a shareholder of a publicly traded company? Or are you a CEO or a CFO or in-house counsel who reports to a board of directors or these shareholders? Well, this show is for you. And it’s about how the healthcare industry has become financialized at the same time that providing health benefits has become the second-biggest line item after payroll for most companies. We talked about that in a recent encore with Mark Cuban ( EP418 ) also, as...

Dec 19, 202439 min

EP458: A Really Unexpected Consideration for Solving Staffing Shortages That Impact Access and Care Quality That Is Based on a Ton of Evidence, With Komal Bajaj, MD

In Episode 458 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter speaks with Dr. Komal Bajaj about innovative strategies for addressing staffing shortages in the healthcare sector. They explore the importance of cultural alignment within organizations, emphasizing trust and shared values to retain staff. Dr. Bajaj shares surprising findings from surveys indicating that healthcare workers are motivated by the goal of providing high-quality, planet-friendly care. The discussion highlights the interc...

Dec 12, 202437 minEp. 458

EP457: It’s a Big Thing: Medical Spread Pricing. So, Let’s Talk About Contract Transparency, With Cynthia Fisher

In this episode of 'Relentlessly Seeking Value,' host Stacey Richter is joined by healthcare entrepreneur Cynthia Fisher to discuss the crucial issue of medical spread pricing and the need for contract transparency. Fisher explains how hidden fees and spread pricing by middlemen are leading to substantial overcharges for employers and patients in the U.S. healthcare system. The conversation delves into recent lawsuits that highlight these practices, the legislative strides made to enforce price ...

Dec 05, 202434 minEp. 457

INBW40: Thank Yous and the Intersection of Product Value, Collaboration, and Being a “Giver”

In this special Thanksgiving episode of Relentlessly Seeking Value, Stacey Richter discusses the significance of being 'givers' in healthcare, advocating for collaboration over transactional relationships to deliver real value to patients. She touches on the challenges and necessary shifts in healthcare market dynamics, emphasizing that true value is determined through bi-directional conversations between providers and end-users, like patients and plan sponsors. Stacey concludes with a call to a...

Nov 27, 202418 min

Encore! EP418: Mark Cuban With a PSA for CEOs and CFOs of Self-insured Employers, With Mark Cuban and Ferrin Williams, PharmD, MBA, From Scripta

In this encore episode, Mark Cuban discusses his insights and experiences on disrupting the healthcare and pharmacy benefits landscape with Stacey Richter. This show from last year was one of the most popular episodes of the past year. And it’s also extremely relevant right now, given all of the PBM (pharmacy benefit manager) goings-on, as well as ongoing litigation like the J&J lawsuit , etc. Listen to the show with Julie Selesnick ( EP428 ) for more on that one. You can find the show notes...

Nov 21, 202456 min

Encore! EP415: Some Jumbo Employers Buying Better Healthcare Outcomes While Saving 15% on Total Cost of Care, With Rob Andrews

In this episode, Stacey Richter speaks with Rob Andrews, CEO of the Health Transformation Alliance (HTA) and former Congressman, about the strategic steps jumbo employers can take to achieve improved health outcomes while reducing cost. They delve into the importance of using data to discern effective practices, negotiate contracts, and hold intermediaries accountable. To Read The Show Notes With All Mentioned Links, Visit the Episode Page . If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the...

Nov 14, 202440 min

EP456: Advice to Pharma at the Intersection of Product Value, Reputation, and Patient Affordability, With Brian Reid

In this comprehensive episode host Stacey Richter sits down with Brian Reid to discuss pivotal aspects for the pharmaceutical industry. Key topics include understanding product value from the perspectives of plan sponsors, patients, and society, and the significance of benefit design in improving patient affordability. For the show notes with all links mentinoed, visit the episode page . If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the free weekly newsletter to be a member of the Relentles...

Nov 07, 202440 minEp. 456

EP455: A Leadership Blueprint for Measurably Better Care, With Beau Raymond, MD

In this conversation, Stacey Richter engages with healthcare leader Dr. Beau Raymond from Ochsner Health Network to explore the blueprint for better patient care through enlightened leadership, data-driven strategies, and localized health initiatives. The discussion covers shifting from 'sick care' to preventative healthcare, integrating technology and data tools like glucometers for health coaching, and addressing health equity through accurate data and regional strategies. To Read the Show Not...

Oct 31, 202439 minEp. 455

EP454: How the Particle v Epic Lawsuit Impacts Plan Sponsors and Public Health Trying to Get Data, With Brendan Keeler

In this episode, host Stacey Richter and guest Brendan Keeler dive deep into the significant legal clash between Epic and Particle over electronic health record (EHR) data access and market competition. To Read the Show Notes with Mentioned Links and a Full Transcript, Visit the Episode Page . This episode examines the broader repercussions on healthcare data exchange, including antitrust concerns, data liquidity, and the ethical considerations around secondary use of treatment data. The discuss...

Oct 24, 202435 minEp. 454

EP453: Running a TPA (Third-Party Administrator) RFP Process That Is Less of a Wild West Fiduciary Shootout, With Claire Brockbank

In this episode, host Stacey Richter delves into the complexities of the Third Party Administrator (TPA) Request for Proposal (RFP) process with guest Claire Brockbank from 32BJUnion. The discussion highlights the critical role of contracts in managing health plans effectively and the potential pitfalls of accepting contracts crafted by TPAs without thorough review. Drawing from Claire's experience, they explore tactics like starting with your own contract paper in RFP processes to gain negotiat...

Oct 17, 202437 minEp. 453

EP452: Fiduciary Duty vs the Healthcare Status Quo, With Cora Opsahl

In this episode I interview Cora Opsahl from the 32BJ Health Fund to examine the intricate dynamics between fiduciary duties and the entrenched status quo in healthcare. The discussion focuses on the challenges employers face when dealing with anti-competitive contracts and their responsibility to ensure plan expenses are reasonable. Cora Opsahl, my guest today, is the director of the 32BJ Health Fund, serving over 200,000 folks. Their ability to kick NewYork-Presbyterian, a big, consolidated, v...

Oct 10, 202440 minEp. 452

Spotlight Episode: Oncology Side Effect Management in the Real World, With Dan Nardi From Reimagine Care

In this Spotlight Episode host Stacey Richter discusses the management of oncology side effects with Dan Nardi, CEO of Reimagine Care. Highlighting the challenges cancer patients face, especially following chemotherapy which often leads to nausea and readmissions, the conversation delves into how Reimagine Care facilitates at-home integrative cancer care. Their services focus on proactive and reactive support via AI-driven tools like 'Remy' to assist patients outside of clinical environments. Th...

Oct 03, 202419 min

EP451: Hey, Let’s Not Talk About Artificial Intelligence, With Spencer Dorn, MD, MPH, MHA

In Episode 451 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter converses with Dr. Spencer Dorn about the implications of AI in healthcare, referencing lessons learned from EHR implementations. They discuss Kranzberg's first law of technology, which advises against labeling a technology as inherently good, bad, or neutral, emphasizing instead the importance of its application, configuration, and the human decisions surrounding its use. Dorn and Richter explore both the potential benefits and draw...

Sep 26, 202413 minEp. 451

EP450: When Your Health Plan Is $9 Million in the Hole, Who Are You Going to Call? A CPA. And Tell Them to Bring Their Spreadsheets, With Marilyn Bartlett, CPA, CGMA, CMA, CFM

In Episode 450 I speak with Marilyn Bartlett, a renowned CPA in the healthcare field, about her remarkable achievement of transforming the state of Montana’s employee health plan from $9 million in debt to a surplus of $112 million within three years. You can read the full show notes with mentioned links on the epsiode page . If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the free weekly newsletter to be a member of the Relentless Tribe. Marilyn discusses the steps she took, including identi...

Sep 19, 202435 minEp. 450

EP449: For Clinical Leaders, Payers, and Plan Sponsors, Let’s Talk About Blind Spots for Getting Patients or Members Appropriate Care, With Marty Makary, MD, MPH

So, I had a chance to read Dr. Marty Makary’s new book, which is called Blind Spots ; and here’s why I wanted to get him to come back on Relentless Health Value and talk to you, people of the healthcare industry. It’s because of something that he said on page 127 and which I’ve been mulling over for probably years, actually. To Read The Full Article Including Links Mentioned, click here . If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the free weekly newsletter to be a member of the Relentle...

Sep 12, 202438 minEp. 449

EP448 (Part 2): 340B: Why Employers Should Probably Care About What’s Happening Here, With Shawn Gremminger

Maybe you’ve already caught Part 1 of my conversation with Shawn Gremminger, and if so, you're ahead of the game. But if not, no worries—here's the deal: I decided to split this deep dive into the 340B program with Shawn into two parts. So, feel free to jump into one or both—it’s totally up to you. To Read The Full Article Including Links Mentioned, click here . If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the free weekly newsletter to be a member of the Relentless Tribe. These episodes do...

Sep 05, 202426 min

EP448 (Part 1): 340B: Where It Started, Where It Is Now, and Who Is Really Benefiting From This Massive Program, With Shawn Gremminger

So, after some pondering, I decided to release this conversation with Shawn Gremminger about 340B in two parts. So, listen to one, listen to both, pick your poison. Shawn Gremminger came up with three really important takeaways relative to 340B, which is a feat unto itself, considering how sprawling this conversation can be. So, if you came here for some concise and actionable takeaways, you have come to the right place. To Read The Full Article Including Links Mentioned, click here . If you enj...

Sep 05, 202438 min

The Euphemism That Has Become Value-Based Care, With Elizabeth Mitchell—Summer Shorts 9

In this Summer Short Episode of Relentlessly Seeking Value, host Stacey Richter discusses the hidden costs and inefficiencies of value-based care with Elizabeth Mitchell, President and CEO of the Purchaser Business Group on Health (PBGH). To read the full article and show notes which include mentioned links, visit the episode page . If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the free weekly newsletter to be a member of the Relentless Tribe. They uncover how value-based care, often touted...

Aug 29, 202417 min

Encore! EP413: The Intersection of Healthcare Waste, Value-Based Care, and the Potential Rising Power of PCPs, With Will Shrank, MD

My conversation today is with Will Shrank, MD. Dr. Shrank led the evaluation group at CMMI (Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation). He has spent time in the private sector, first at CVS Health and UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center) as chief medical officer of the health plan in Pittsburgh, and then as the chief medical officer for Humana. Now he is a venture partner at Andreessen Horowitz and doing some consulting for CMMI. To read the full article and show notes which include ...

Aug 22, 202435 min

Encore! EP402: What Physicians Trying to Clinically Integrate Care in the Real World Need to Know, With Amy Scanlan, MD

This encore episode is with Amy Scanlan, MD. It was, in fact, one of our most popular episodes of the past year. It is still just as relevant today in a slightly different way. It’s interesting how things which were said maybe a year ago have shades of meaning which become evident as time goes on. So, I liked this show a lot in the second listen with the advantage of time passing. To read the show notes with mentioned links and a transcript, head over to our site . If you enjoy this podcast, be ...

Aug 15, 202433 min

EP447: Why an “EHR Strategy” Isn’t Enough, With Ashleigh Gunter

In Episode 447, Stacey Richter interviews Ashleigh Gunter, president of Translucent Healthcare Consulting, to discuss the indispensable role of change management in healthcare transformation. They emphasize that creating an effective change strategy involves great leadership, a clear case for change, influential change champions, over-communication, and continuous measurement and celebration of successes. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding and aligning with the 'why' tha...

Aug 08, 202429 minEp. 447

EP446: Hey, Let’s Not Talk About EHRs, With Spencer Dorn, MD, MPH, MHA

In Episode 446, "Hey, Let's Not Talk About EHRs," host Stacey Richter engages Dr. Spencer Dorn, vice chair and professor of medicine at the University of North Carolina, in a comprehensive discussion about the implications of healthcare technology, specifically electronic health records (EHRs). Visit the Episode Page to read the show notes with mentioned links. If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the free weekly newsletter to be a member of the Relentless Tribe. The conversation e...

Aug 01, 202435 minEp. 446
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