Relationship Matters

Ep.17 Hearing, Seeing & Sensing Systems

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global CEO and Co-Founder Marita Fridjhon about hearing, seeing and sensing Systems. The capacity to be present with systems is at the heart of Organizational and Relationship Systems Coaching and a coach or leader can do this through a variety of different channels, like seeing, hearing and feeling. Across the episode Katie and Marita look at the benefits of truly listening, connecting with systems across different channels, sensing the emotional field of s...

Ep.16 Coaching Competencies: Revealing the system to itself

In this episode, Master Coach Maddie Weinreich is back on the show talking about two further coaching competencies she sees coaches struggling with the most: Revealing the system to itself and working with the emotional field. As well as being past director of faculty and leader development at CRR Global Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification. Over the course of the episode, Katie and Maddie discuss ways to reveal the system to it...

Ep.14 Listening is Healing

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global faculty member and founder of CRR Japan, Yuri Morikawa about how listening is healing. Across the episode, they discuss listening as a superpower, what it means to really listen, the potential of listening in Relationship Systems Work, healing through listening, and how to truly listen to ourselves, our clients and the world around us at a deeper level. Yuri Morikawa has been an active player in the professional coaching field since 2004. Prior to her...

Ep.11 The Magic of Metaskills

In this episode Katie talks with ORSC faculty leader and CRR Canada partner, Kerry Woodcock about the magic of Metaskills. The concept of metaskills was first introduced by Amy Mindell and has since been enhanced and leveraged in key tools in the ORSC approach. A metaSkill is the attitude, stance, philosophy, or “come from” place that both the leader and team members stand in when doing this work. The intentional use of MetaSkills provides an invaluable skillset that can improve overall performa...

Ep.10 Meet Reveal Align Act

In this episode, Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) discusses the process of Meet, Reveal, Align and Act. Whether we are engaging in a one-on-one conversation with a neighbor or working with a large group, these three phases can help us when working with all types of Relationship Systems. Across the episode we discuss how to effectively meet a system, helping clients to keep moving forward during the reveal phase, the importance of align & act, and using th...

Ep.9 Workplace Conflict: The Impact of Investigation

In this episode, restoration practitioner Jennifer Pernfuss talks about how to resolve harassment complaints (and conflict) using a systems inspired approach. If you’ve not had a chance to listen to part 1, we'd highly recommend checking out Workplace conflict (part 1): The balcony view . In part 1, Jennifer and Katie discuss the importance of taking a systemic view in highly charged and complex workplace harassment cases. In this episode, Jennifer walks us through the typical process and proced...

Ep. 8 Neuroscience & Relationship

In this episode, Katie talks with Floyd Carlson about Neuroscience and Relationships. This is the first of 2 installments on neuroscience and what it can teach us about our relationships. In Part 1 we’re talking about how neuroscience can help us to better understand ourselves because the more we are aware of what’s going on within us, the more it’s going to help us as coaches, leaders and human beings. We discuss a variety of topics including how to regulate in the moment, types of intuition, t...

Ep. 7 Systems Inspired Leadership

In this episode, Katie talks with CRR Global CEO and co-founder Marita Fridjhon about the competencies behind system inspired leadership. Systems Inspired Leadership (SIL) is an innovative approach to leadership that creates from the wisdom of the system rather than tells people what to do and builds shared leadership at all levels of the organization. Their discussion includes what is and isn’t a systems inspired leader, how to empower leaders and teams to adopt this different approach to leade...

Ep. 6 Love in Leadership

In this episode, Katie is talking with Neil Edwards about Leadership and Love. In business ‘love’ is not a word, characteristic, or value, we often see or use. Yet, what might be the value of bringing more ‘love’ into the workplace? And how might leading with love transform our working relationships and company cultures? Across the episode we discuss how love affirms life, the sanitation of words in the workplace, the challenges and missed opportunities in leaving love out of the boardroom; expa...

Ep.5 Coaching Competencies: Holding the system as client

In this episode, Master Coach Maddie Weinreich delves into two of the coaching competencies she sees new systems coaches’ struggling with the most: holding the system as the client and holding the system as intelligent, generative, and creative. Over the course of the episode, Maddie discusses tips, traps and tricks to using these competencies, what it means to ‘hold the system’ as a client, some of the benefits of working with our clients in this way and empowering the system by holding them as...

Ep.3 Workplace Conflict: The Balcony View

In this episode, Katie talks with workplace conflict expert, Jennifer Pernfuss, about how to effectively meet systems amidst conflict and crisis, by taking the balcony view. They discuss why it’s important to bring a systems lens to issues involving workplace harassment, using workplace conflict in a constructive manner, creating psychological safety, and the role of rank and privilege. Jennifer Pernfuss is a non-practicing lawyer with a degree in Psychology and has maintained a consulting and c...

Ep.2 Nature as an Ally

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with CRR Global co-founder Faith Fuller and CRR faculty member Janet Frood about viewing Nature as an ally when we consider relationship systems intelligence. This isn’t just about considering our relationship with nature but also, thinking about how nature is a part of us and looking at what nature can teach us. Across the episode, they cover a variety of colorful topics including: nature’s ability to shift our perspective; the healing power of nature...

Ep.1 Crossing edges and Returning to the Office

To kick-start a brand new season of the Relationship Matters Podcast, Katie Churchman talks with Sandra Cain (Director of Curriculum and Senior Faculty at CRR Global) about crossing edges around returning to the office. After over a year of lock-down and remote working, many organizations are now contemplating a return to the office. However, there’s no clear road map for navigating this change and business leaders are finding that the challenges are much more complicated than originally thought...

Season 3 Trailer

Worldwork Bonus: Cabaret & Coaching

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities. In this ep...

Worldwork Bonus: ORSC & Sports

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities. In this ep...

Worldwork Bonus (Trailer)

In this collection of bonus episodes, we’re looking at the concept of Worldwork, which embraces the idea that we are continuously impacting the world, whether we are conscious of it or not. Whilst Worldwork can involve big acts of altruism and community spirit, it always starts with self. Across the course of these 4 bonus episodes, you will be hearing from 4 Worldworkers’from across the globe, who have all used ORSC tools in very different ways tools to serve their wider communities....

Ep15. The Five Principles of RSI: Emergence

In this episode Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into the 5th and final principle of RSI: Relationship Systems are in a constant state of emergence, always in the process of expressing their potential. This principle is critical to the phenomenon referred to as the speed of change. It signifies modern society’s increasingly shorter planning horizons and the required flexibility to embrace and navigate change effectively. Successful organizations are nimble and flexible in the face of shifting tide...

Ep.14 Small Habits and Fresh Starts

In this episode, Floyd Carlson and Katie Churchman are discussing the power of small habits and fresh starts. Building on their previous discussion around myths and myth change they explore ways of refreshing or completely rewriting narratives in our everyday lives. How can we change the stories that will enable us to step into new ways of being, with each other and with ourselves. We often wait for temporal markers- like a New Year or a birthday ending in a zero- to make big changes…but why can...

Ep 13. The Five Principles of RSI: Intelligent, Generative and Creative

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into the 4th principle of RSI: Relationship Systems Are Naturally Intelligent, Generative and Creative. This principle allows us to view any change or disturbance as an ally while trusting the Team Entity’s resourcefulness to find its own answers. Conflict and chaos are seen as signals and messages by the Team Entity to co-create from- rather than react to- something new that is trying to happen. The more RSI a team has, the more collectively intel...

Ep.12 Do You Want To Be Right or Do You Want To Be in Relationship?

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Maddie Weinreich about toxic behaviors. Building on John Gottman’s research into couples they explore how to become more aware and ultimately reduce the amount of ‘toxins’ that show up in your relationship. The 4 Relationship Toxins are Defensiveness, Contempt, Stonewalling and Blaming. When used frequently, these toxic communication patterns are so lethal to human relationships that Dr. Gottman coined the term the “The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse”...

Ep 11. ORSC and Agile

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with ORSC coach and Agile expert Terrance Turpin. Terrance has over 20 years of experience in Technology and Software Development and is also a CRR USA staff member. Terrance blends Team coaching – supporting teams in clarifying, aligning & co-creating as a diverse but single entity -and Agility coaching – establishing healthy states of flow across an organization by coaching for alignment in structure, processes, environments, and relationships. Terran...

Ep.10 - Myth Change

In this episode, Floyd Carlson and Katie Churchman are discussing myths and myth change. The idea of a myth connects us with the archetypal roots of the relationship - which has great meaning and power. We are always developing who we are as a couple or a corporation, but often unconsciously. So by revealing this creative process to clients the coach we can make it much more conscious and intentional. Floyd is a Front of the Room Leader for CRR Global who focuses on leaders and teams and bringin...

Ep.9 - The Five Principles of RSI: Roles

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon is deep-diving into principle 3: Relationship Systems Rely on Roles for their Organization and Execution of functions. Roles belong to the system, not to the individuals that inhabit the system This principle requires the biggest mental shift in teaming and leadership focus as it asserts that every team member has the responsibility to hold a leadership role on behalf of the system. Every relationship system has its own functional and emotional needs that must be...

Ep.8 The Five Principles of RSI: Voice of the System

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon and Katie Churchman deep-dive into the second of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems intelligence: Every member of the system is an information carrier and Voice of the System (VOS). You can think of a team or family as a puzzle where every member is a piece. To reveal the picture of the overall team experience, every piece is needed. Each member has critical information about the functioning of that team or family. The information may be transmitted through...

Ep. 7 Vitality for Couples

In this episode, Katie Churchman talks with Maddie Weinreich about vitality for couples. There are all kinds of ways we can be in relationship with our partners. Sometimes it can be very dull to be in a couple and can be very exciting! Relationships are in constant cycles. In this episode, Maddie talks about relationship behavioral patterns that can help to foster more aliveness, engagement and vitality. After two decades of working with couples, Maddie’s noticed 5 recurring ‘elements’ in couple...

Ep.5 The Five Principles of RSI: The Third Entity

In this episode, Marita Fridjhon deep-dives into the first of the 5 principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence (or RSI): The Third Entity. RSI involves the ability to move from seeing a group of individuals to seeing the system itself, as a living breathing entity and this is what we call Third Entity. Relationship Systems Work holds that there is more present in a relationship than the individual team members. Along with the people involved, there is also the relationship or system itself....

Ep.4 What if your partner could be your ally...?

In this episode, Katie Churchman is talking with master coach Maddie Weinreich. As well as being the past director of faculty and leader development at CRR Global Maddie currently serves as a senior Front of the Room Leader for the ORSC Program and ORSC Certification Maddie’s passion for personal development and human potential contributes to her success in the field of relationship coaching. For more than 25 years, Maddie’s own marriage has provided her with deep insights into the joys and chal...

Ep.2 Ghost Roles (Part 1: Ghosts)

In Part-1 of Ghosts, Faith Fuller is talking about Ghost roles. Ghost roles are invisible third-party presences that come and go and impact the emotional field. A ghost role is present when something is clearly affecting the relationship, yet isn’t talked about, and may not even be conscious to the people in the system. Ghosts arise from our experiences in previous relationships, both personal and professional. They may be people, or they may be events and they can both negatively and positively...

Ep.1 Introducing the Five Principles of RSI

In the first episode of season 2, Marita Fridjhon introduces the 5 principles of Relationship Systems Intelligence (RSI). RSI has five key principles which shape what we believe, how we engage, and the “place from which we come.” These principles underpin all of our relationships and are, therefore, fundamental to everything we do as coaches, leaders and human beings. Understanding and engaging in these principles can help us to better access and apply Relationship Systems Intelligence, with our...