Refuse Fascism - podcast cover

Refuse Fascism

Refuse Fascismrefusefascism.org
The Refuse Fascism podcast is an independent and all-volunteer show that produces weekly episodes that expose, analyze, and oppose the very real danger and threat of fascism coming to power in the United States. Hosted by Sam Goldman, produced by volunteers with Refuse Fascism.
Last refreshed:
Follow this podcast in the Metacast mobile app to refresh it and see new episodes.
Download Metacast podcast app
Podcasts are better in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episodes

Proud Boys and a New Era of American Fascism

Sam interviews Andy Campbell, author of the new book We Are Proud Boys: How a Right-Wing Street Gang Ushered in a New Era of American Extremism . Follow Andy on Twitter at @AndyBCampbell . Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter ( @RefuseFascism ) and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism Thank you to everyone who is donating during giving season! Don't forget to include your mailing ad...

Dec 18, 202252 minSeason 3Ep. 47

The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird

Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Phillip Gorski, professor of sociology at Yale, about the contours of the White Christian Nationalist movement. His latest book is The Flag and the Cross written with Dr. Samuel Perry. Follow Dr. Gorski on Twitter at @GorskiPhilip . Then, Sam talks to Micah Lee, Director of Information Security at The Intercept , about the Nazification of Twitter under Elon Musk. You can follow Micah on Twitter @MicahfLee but he's posting more often on Mastodon these days: https://info...

Dec 12, 20221 hr 4 minSeason 3Ep. 46

Christian Dominionism and Fascist Momentum

Sam talks to Dr. Sarah Riccardi-Swartz, assistant professor of religion and anthropology at Northeastern University about Christian Dominionism, rising antisemitism and the fascist movement's continued momentum. Follow her on Twitter at @riccardiswartz and visit her site at riccardiswartz.com Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. We're still on Twitter and other social platforms including the newest addition: mastodon.world/@refusefascism Thank you to ...

Dec 05, 202247 minSeason 3Ep. 45

The Aftermath of the Midterms

Sam Goldman chats with fellow RefuseFascism.org co-editors Coco Das and Paul Street about the aftermath of the 2022 midterms, Donald Trump declaring his 2024 candidacy and associated happenings this past week. Follow Coco on Twitter at @Coco_Das and subscribe to Paul on Substack at paulstreet.substack.com . Read Paul's book This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America . Thursday, Dec. 1 From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org : Manifest in green and protest nationwide at cour...

Nov 20, 202250 minSeason 3Ep. 44

Bradley Onishi: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next

Sam Goldman interviews Bradley Onishi about his new book (available January 2023) Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next Brad Onishi is a former insider in the Christian nationalist movement who spent seven years as a minister in Southern California. Listen to his podcast Straight White American Jesus , follow him on Twitter at @BradleyOnishi and sign up for updates at swaj.substack.com . Thursday, Dec. 1 From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org : Mani...

Nov 13, 202256 minSeason 3Ep. 43

Sarah Posner: The GOP's Christian Supremacy Problem

Sam Goldman interviews writer Sarah Posner about antisemitism, Christian Zionism and increasing anti-trans hysteria in the radicalizing Republican Party. Read Sarah's recent piece The GOP’s Christian Supremacy Problem and follow her at sarahposner.com or on Twitter @sarahposner or mastodon.social/@sarahposner . Also mentioned in this episode: The US Christian Right groups actively involved in voter suppression by Annika Brockschmidt and Doug Mastriano’s Prophets In Pennsylvania by Christopher Ma...

Nov 06, 202238 minSeason 3Ep. 42

Teddy Wilson: Fascist Violence Accelerated

Sam Goldman interviews writer Teddy Wilson about the latest developments from the fascist movement in the US, including the violent wing of the anti-abortion movement, the January 6th commission, and the wave of antisemitism coming from prominent powers and from their ground soldiers. Teddy chronicles the US fascist movement in detail at hist Substack: radicalreports.substack.com . Follow Teddy on Twitter at @reportbywilson . Also mentioned in this episode: Research by Carol Mason into the anti-...

Oct 31, 202255 minSeason 3Ep. 41

Andrew Seidel: American Crusades & the Supreme Court

Sam Goldman interviews Andrew Seidel, a constitutional and civil rights attorney and the author of two books: The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American and American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious Freedom . He's also co-editor of an academic text, Law and Religion: Cases and Materials 5th Edition, with Prof. Leslie Griffin of UNLV law school. Andrew is a Senior Correspondent at Religion Dispatches , a prolific author of opeds and scholarly articles. He o...

Oct 23, 202253 minSeason 3Ep. 40

Women, Life, Freedom

The courageous movement in Iran is reaching an incredibly inspiring new stage that needs to be understood, learned from and supported by people who care about justice everywhere. To learn more about the situation, Sam Goldman interviews two experts on the topic: Jasmin Ramsey, Deputy Director of the Center for Human Rights in Iran (follow @ICHRI and @jasminramsey ; website iranhumanrights.org ) and Sussan Tahmasebi, Executive Director, FEMENA (follow @FemenaNet and @sussantweets ; website femena...

Oct 16, 202255 minSeason 3Ep. 39

"Trump of the Tropics" + 100 Days Post-Roe

Sam Goldman interviews historian of fascism, Federico Finchelstein, about the upcoming run-off election in Brazil for incumbent fascist Bolsonaro vs. former president Lula da Silva. Follow Dr. Finchelstein on Twitter @FinchelsteinF . Then, reflections on the 100 days since the federal right to abortion was overturned in the US and what it will take to restore this fundamental right - a Blue Wave or a Green Wave - from Sam and a student organizer with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights. Register for the u...

Oct 10, 202235 minSeason 3Ep. 38

It Can, It Has, It Is Happening Here

Sam talks to Paul Street and Anthony DiMaggio about Trump’s open embrace of the fascist Qanon movement, the kidnapping of Venezuelan migrants by Florida governor Desantis, media and politicians’ normalization of fascism and much more. Paul Street is an historian and member of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, author of This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America ; follow Paul on Twitter @Streetwriter17 and at paulstreet.org . Anthony DiMaggio is a political scient...

Sep 26, 202257 minSeason 3Ep. 37

If One Of Us Is Not Free, None Of Us Are

Sunsara Taylor, co-host of The RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show and one of the initiators of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org discusses the new post-Roe federal legislation introduced by Lindsey Graham which would ban abortions after 15 weeks, overriding all protections for abortion rights at the state level. Follow Sunsara on Twitter at @SunsaraTaylor . Then, Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Heather Costello, an emergency room and hospice doctor in Chicago about the already terrible impact of the Dobbs de...

Sep 18, 20221 hr 2 minSeason 3Ep. 36

Teddy Wilson on the Metastasizing Fascist Base

Sam interviews independent journalist and researcher Teddy Wilson about the base for fascism in the US and how they are responding to recent events. Subscribe to Teddy’s regularly updated Substack at radicalreports.substack.com and follow him on Twitter at @reportbywilson . Mentioned in this episode: The Oath Keepers Data Leak: Unmasking Extremism in Public Life from the ADL Refuse Fascism is more than a podcast! You can get involved at RefuseFascism.org. Send your comments to samanthagoldman@re...

Sep 11, 202247 minSeason 3Ep. 35

The GOP: Fascist, Nothing Semi- About It

On the occasion of our 125th episode, RefuseFascism.org editorial board members Coco Das and Paul Street share recollections on the mission and analysis of the organization. Follow Coco Das on Twitter @Coco_Das . Read the statement Coco co-authored which was published in The New York Times as a full page advertisement days after the 2020 electoral defeat of Donald Trump here . Get Paul’s latest book, This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals and the Trumping of America . Plus: Sam Goldman sha...

Sep 04, 202248 minSeason 3Ep. 34

Talking Forced-Birth in Victorian Times and Now With Kate Manning

Sam Goldman interviews writer Kate Manning, author of My Notorious Life , a novel about a midwife and abortion provider from the 1800’s based on a true story. Read Manning’s op ed for The Washington Post , “Antiabortion laws are forced-birth laws. Here’s what that looks like.” Follow Manning's work which includes other eloquent and pointed opinion pieces about women, abortion, and more, plus links to get her books, including her forthcoming novel Gilded Mountain at her website katemanningauthor....

Aug 28, 202257 minSeason 3Ep. 33

Leah Litman: SCOTUS Recap and Forecast

Sam Goldman interviews Leah Litman, Assistant Professor of Law and University of Michigan and cohost of Strict Scrutiny podcast, discussing the past, present and future of the Trump-appointee dominated SCOTUS. Follow Leah Litman on Twitter at @leahlitman . Plus: Merle Hoffman, one of the co-founders of Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights speaking at the Society for Ethical Culture. Follow @RiseUp4Abortion and @MerleHoffman . Read the dissent to Dobbs v. Jackson here: https://www.documentcloud.org/document...

Aug 22, 202245 minSeason 3Ep. 32

The Nazification of American Education

Sam interviews Dr. Henry Giroux, renowned educator and author of recently published pieces The Nazification of American Education and The US Is Descending Into a Crisis of Overt Fascism. There’s Still a Way Out . Also see Florida students return to schools reshaped by Gov. DeSantis' anti-'woke' education agenda . Follow Dr. Giroux on Twitter at @HenryGiroux and visit his website at henryagiroux.com . The FBI raid of Trump's Mar-a-Lago is increasing pressure on Trump. In this situation, there is ...

Aug 14, 20221 hrSeason 3Ep. 31

Danielle Moodie: How to Stand Up to Fascist Bullies

Sam interviews writer and pundit Danielle Moodie about the current state of fascism in the United States and how to actually stand up to the fascist bullies (hint: it’s not what the Democrats are doing right now). Listen to Danielle every weekday on her podcast Woke AF and every week on Democracy-ish (with Wajahat Ali). Follow her on Twitter at @deetwocents on Instagram @deetwocents at and on TikTok at @daniellemoodie_ . Note: Abortion remains legal for now in West Virginia as the House and Sena...

Jul 31, 202244 minSeason 3Ep. 30

Highland Park Mass Shooter Crimo Wasn’t A Lone Wolf

Sam speaks to the Rachael Wachstein (first interviewed on Episode #35 in December 2020 - find her on Facebook ) again, this time to discuss Robert Crimo, Jr., the mass shooter who murdered people at the Highland Park July 4 parade this year, 2022. Wachstein witnessed not only this horrific event but recognized Crimo as one of the pro-Trump "Stop the Steal" fascists she had been counter-protesting in her community over the past couple of years. She makes a forceful case for his fascist motivation...

Jul 24, 202237 minSeason 3Ep. 29

Post-Roe Reality Check & January 6 Hearing Update

It's just a few weeks into the hellscape that is a post-Roe United States... Sam and Mark chat about just a few of the stories that have come out in recent weeks illustrating the growing catastrophe. Donate to support the Indiana doctor currently under fire from fascist forces for providing abortion care to a 10 year old rape victim who traveled from Ohio here . Recommended Reading: They Will Never Believe Us by Jessica Valenti Dr. Caitlin Bernard Was Meant to Write This With Me Before She Was A...

Jul 17, 202243 minSeason 3Ep. 28

Christian Theocracy, the Crusades, & Modern-Day America

Sam interviews Dr. Thomas Lecaque about apocalyptic Christianity, the GOP in 2022 and the medieval roots of support for secular fascists like Trump from Christian nationalists. Read his recent articles Patriot Front and the Next Stage of the Culture War , "Jesus, guns, babies": Religious violence is now at the core of the Republican Party , and this piece from 2019 in The Washington Post: The apocalyptic myth that helps explain evangelical support for Trump . Follow Dr. Lecaque on Twitter @tleca...

Jul 10, 202250 minSeason 3Ep. 27

Overturning Roe: A Watershed Moment for U.S. Fascism

Sam and Coco Das discuss Coco's new article for The Independent: Roe has been overturned and women’s bodies are no longer their own in America. Here’s what to do now . Follow Coco at @Coco_Das . Over the past couple weeks SCOTUS has issued a series of rulings that flag that they are no longer concerned with the appearance of legitimacy: rights no longer need to be read to people arrested by the police, states cannot issue laws restricting who can conceal guns, and the EPA cannot prevent power pl...

Jul 04, 202240 minSeason 3Ep. 26

SCOTUS, The Big Lie, Fascism: All Illegitimate

On our first post-Roe episode, we share some of the voices from the streets over the last couple days outside the Supreme Court demanding the federal government restore the fundamental right to abortion across the country NOW, including Sunsara Taylor ( @sunsarataylor ), Paxton Smith ( @paxtonsmith ) and youth organizers. Then, writer and pundit Wajahat Ali talks to Sam about the January 6 hearings which have unearthed in great detail (though not exhaustive, as Ginni Thomas's key role continues ...

Jun 26, 202254 minSeason 3Ep. 25

The Looming Abortion Rights Disaster & Even Worse To Come From The Supreme Court

Sam Goldman takes a break from protesting outside the Supreme Court to interview writer Jill Filipovic about the looming abortion rights disaster. Follow Jill’s work at jill.substack.com and follow her on Twitter at @JillFilipovic . Then, Sunsara Taylor interviews lawyer and host of the Amicus podcast Dahlia Lithwick about the legal rationale behind overturning the right to abortion and the many other implications to individual freedom in the US (this interview originally appeared on The Revolut...

Jun 19, 202258 minSeason 3Ep. 24

Federico Finchelstein: "White Replacement Theory" & Fascism

Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Federico Finchelstein on the recent Op Ed he wrote with Dr. Jason Stanley in the LA Times: White replacement theory is fascism’s new name . Follow @FinchelsteinF on Twitter and check out his newest book, Fascist Mythologies: The History and Politics of Unreason in Borges, Freud, and Schmitt . Recommended reading: The first January 6 hearing served up surprising revelations — that all point to Trump (Ben Jacobs in Vox) Jan. 6 Committee Details Proud Boys, Oath Keepers I...

Jun 12, 202245 minSeason 3Ep. 23

Confronting & Rejecting a Culture of Fascist Violence

In the aftermath of the horrific massacre of schoolchildren in Uvalde, Texas, which was close on the heels of a white supremacist killing spree in Buffalo, NY, we’re re-sharing the extremely relevant interview Sam Goldman did with Dr. Carol Anderson in November 2021. Dr. Anderson is the Charles Howard Candler Professor and Chair of African American Studies at Emory University and the author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide , One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Des...

May 29, 20221 hr 1 minSeason 3Ep. 22

Acting Now to Defend Roe + Abortion Rights

Coco Das @Coco_Das and Sam Goldman @SamBGoldman have been busy rallying people in the streets with RiseUp4AbortionRights.org over the past couple weeks - we share some of those speeches today. Join in nationwide protests this Thursday May 26 to raise your voice and raise hell as SCOTUS is on the verge of overturning Roe and allowing many abortion bans to go through. Find or organize a protest here. Recommended reading: CPAC Hungary: Global right doubles down on "replacement" theory: "This is wha...

May 22, 202231 minSeason 3Ep. 21

Thousands Rise Up to Say: Overturn Roe? Hell No!

More than 400 cities on Saturday May 14 saw protests demanding the Supreme Court not overturn Roe. We share some of the voices from a protest in NYC including Merle Hoffman, Founder/CEO Choices Women's Medical Center and an initiator of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org, Rosita Romero, Executive Director, Dominican Women's Development Center, Elizabeth Holtzman, former U.S. Representative and District Attorney of Brooklyn, and Sunsara Taylor, Co-Host of the RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show on Youtube ...

May 16, 202233 minSeason 3Ep. 20

Susana Chiarotti: Overturning Roe, A Brutal Lesson for Feminists on Resistance

A draft version of the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe on the most retrograde basis has been leaked, authored by Samuel Alito. Coco Das ( @Coco_Das ) interviews Susana Chiarotti, Latin American Liaison for the Sisterhood is Global Institute about the global implications of this ruling and the immediate challenge facing the abortion rights movement in the US. Read her recent article for the Miami Herald: While Roe v. Wade is under attack in the U.S., Latin American women are winning aborti...

May 08, 202238 minSeason 3Ep. 19

Marcela García: Lessons from the Green Wave Abortion Rights Victories in Latin America

Coco Das interviews Boston Globe columnist Marcela García about her recent piece about the “Green Wave” movements in Latin America that have decriminalized abortion in Argentina, Colombia and Mexico. Read Latin America moves forward in legalizing abortion as the US rolls back access. What gives? Follow Marcela on Twitter at @marcela_elisa . Listen to the solidarity statement from Ana Cristina Gonzalez Vélez from the movement in Colombia to Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights. Find out more about the natio...

May 01, 202230 minSeason 3Ep. 18
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android