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Reframeables

Rebecca & Natalie Daveyreframeables.buzzsprout.com

Do you feel alone in your own head when it comes to navigating life’s big and small problems? Do you find self-care language a little too self-focused but know you still need to do the work? Join us on Reframeables and eavesdrop your way into some new perspectives — we promise you'll feel less alone as you listen. We are Nat and Bec, two very different sisters who come together each week to reframe some of life's big and small stuff. Nat's a PhD whose favourite phrase is “let’s reframe that!” Bec's an artist who tends more toward “why me?” Through candid, vulnerable yet entertaining conversations with each other, as well as guests, we find a way to meet in the middle each week and offer you, our listeners, new perspectives along the way. From a painful divorce that still needs processing, to grief that sticks around, to the simple day-to-day problems of managing a grumpy teenager, to a dynamic interview with Giller winner Ian Williams or radio personality and co-star of the Jann Arden podcast Caitlin Green sharing her vulnerable story of loss: Join our intimate conversations with authors, actors, activists, and voices from the crowd — those who inspire us to think differently about the world so we can reframe living in it. 

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Episodes

All Kinds of Stories with Zarqa Nawaz (Episode 40)

We sit down with Zarqa Nawaz, the creator of Little Mosque on the Prairie , the world's first sitcom about a Muslim community living in the west. She has recently released both a new book and a new show (out now on CBC Gem), and joins us to share her insights on storytelling — from how her faith informs her writing process, to her personal journey in bringing stories like hers to the mainstream, to the inherent value of depicting the ordinary. Links: Watch ZARQA on CBC Gem Jameela Green Ruins Ev...

Jun 08, 202245 minSeason 1Ep. 40

Being More Than One Thing with Jessica Hiemstra (Episode 39)

We are all multi-hyphenate. How can we reframe what it means to be more than one thing and embrace our multiplicities? We talked to artist Jessica Hiemstra, whose work spans many different mediums, from essays and poetry to children's books to murals to large-scale installations, about how she navigates doing a lot. Our wide-ranging conversation spanned how we embrace being big in the world to the tabs we keep open in our lives to what we can learn from beavers. Jessica makes. Have a look. Links...

Jun 01, 202242 minSeason 1Ep. 39

Grief Forward (Episode 38)

Grief is something that is present for a lot of us. There's lots to be sad about, so what's the best way to process the grief arising from it? Do we have an obligation to feel sad all the time given the daily tragedies in our world? We shine light on our own ongoing griefs and explore what it means to feel safe enough to feel all our feelings, even as we try and keep up with the needs around us. We also touch on counters to grief — which seem to fall somewhere between will and joy — and the mean...

May 25, 202225 minSeason 1Ep. 38

Thinking Big with Anna DeShawn (Episode 37)

Nat and Bec chat with Chicago-born digital media artist and social entrepreneur Anna DeShawn. We reminisce about the Podcast Movement conference in LA, church as preparation for life as a performer, and Anna shares some insights about creating when you don't fit in any box, doing many things at a time, and developing a self-care regimen that enables thinking big to flourish. Anna Deshawn is the founder of The Qube and E3 Radio, which are riding media into its next era by using digital media stre...

May 18, 202237 minSeason 1Ep. 37

Curating a Life with Jen McNeely of She Does The City (Episode 36)

Bec and Nat chat with Jen McNeely, founder of She Does the City , about what it means to curate her life even as she curates a publishing platform. We get into shifts in perspective, taking on different roles as we mature and media changes, the negative side of wine mom culture, advocating for mental health and recovery, and simpler ways of being. Links: Follow Jen on Twitter and Instagram . We also wanted to put a spotlight on the podcast Hello, I'm Listening , a rebrand of the podcast Translat...

May 11, 202235 minSeason 1Ep. 36

Hallmark Movie Do-Over (Episode 35)

What is art anyways? This week we're reframing the binary of highbrow and lowbrow art after watching the Hallmark movie The Beach House , starring Minka Kelly, Andie MacDowell, and Chad Michael Murray. Do our categories get in the way of really engaging with art? How can we cast off these ingrained ideas to engage with whatever is in front of us — whether it's Dostoevsky or The Bachelor? We were both surprised by what we liked about the movie, and our viewing experience led to some insights abou...

May 04, 202229 minSeason 1Ep. 35

Saving Coffee + A Chat with Mary Elizabeth Picher (Episode 34)

This week we step outside of the podcast recording studio to reframe a couple of locations we have a lot of history with. We visit two coffee shops — ‘G.N.’ and ‘C.’ — that we’ve both spent a lot of time in and are full of memories (not all of them good). How do spaces take root in our minds and become meaning-filled, and how can we reframe places we might have bad associations with so that we can be at home around them? Come on our journey to find out! Then we return to our Women in Business se...

Apr 27, 202234 minSeason 1Ep. 34

Reframing Through Fiction: A Conversation with Katie Zdybel (Episode 33)

Fiction writing can be a really powerful reframing tool — writer Katie Zdybel joins us to talk about this idea and reframe our own writing lives in the process. Plus: finding the right headspace for writing, living in the Yukon, seeing beauty in the landscape (and sometimes not!), and using fiction to build better relationships with the sadnesses that are a part of life. Katie Zdybel’s recently released first book, Equipoise , was shortlisted for the HarperCollins/UBC Prize for Best New Fiction ...

Apr 20, 202234 minSeason 1Ep. 33

Reframing Divorce with Miranda Hassell (Episode 32)

Nat joins Miranda Hassell in a two-for-one episode of Sister On! and The Big D on reframing divorce. How can we put this painful process in a new light and learn to choose ourselves over relationships? Take in our breakup stories (because who doesn't like a little drama?), the ways we reframe our experiences of divorce, and what comes after the papers are signed. We also get into video games as healing tools, the gifts we decide to give our exes, and insights from strangers in unexpected places....

Apr 13, 202249 minSeason 1Ep. 32

Risk Portfolio (Episode 31)

What's the biggest risk you've ever taken? Managing risk has been front and centre in our minds these past two years of COVID. This episode tries to unpack some of that risk in a broader way as we examine big risks we've made in the past and what our choices say about us. How do we react differently to the risks imposed on us, versus the ones we choose to take on? How do we manage when everything goes wrong? We try to find the right language for navigating the risks life throws at us, as well as...

Apr 06, 202236 minSeason 1Ep. 31

Existential Crisis in LA (Episode 30)

We're back from the Podcast Movement Evolutions conference in LA, where we had a bit of an existential crisis. We give you our travelogue, where we gave some serious thought to rebranding and reframing Sister On! as this project of ours grows and changes. Also, finding a mentor, SMART goals, being mansplained to in Ubers, and prioritizing pleasure. We love hearing from our listeners! Leave us a voice message , write to the show email , or send us a DM on any of our socials. You can find our tran...

Mar 30, 202220 minSeason 1Ep. 30

Mindful Eating with Dr. Michelle May (Episode 29)

Does our relationship with food need reframing? We had a talk with Dr. Michelle May, a former family physician who struggled with disordered eating, about what it means to eat mindfully and how we can cultivate healthier ways of thinking about food. We got into identifying self-care habits that can make us feel better, how to actually change our habits in a way that is lasting, and the origin of our culture's unhealthy attitudes toward food. Michelle May is the founder of Am I Hungry? Mindful Ea...

Mar 23, 202253 minSeason 1Ep. 29

Reframing Life's Big Transitions: A Conversation with Carley Fortune (Episode 28)

This week is all about reframing life's big transitions as we talk with writer Carley Fortune about leaving her steady career in the Canadian media industry to work as a solo writer and novelist. She tells us about the concept of matrescence, something she has written about in her time with Refinery29 — a challenging experience that many parents undergo but aren't able to name. We're also treated to a napkin pitch for Every Summer After , her forthcoming novel about the nostalgia of young summer...

Mar 16, 202244 minSeason 1Ep. 28

A Quickie about Toxic Positivity (Episode 27)

Can reframing be misconstrued as toxic positivity? Bec wonders if she’s still allowed to be annoyed at super positive people. Nat suggests yes, although she suggests we all need to find our safe space to be grumpy. Bec worries about being fake if she’s too positive. Nat wonders if sometimes we are scared of healing. The book we reference is Complaint by Sara Ahmed. “Just” is an adverb. "With" is a preposition. And Nat can't find that director for the life of her! Ultimately, they would love to h...

Mar 09, 202227 minSeason 1Ep. 27

Introvert Superpowers: A Conversation with Sharon Glassman (Episode 26)

Recording through a bonding technology debacle, Bec and Nat talk with designer and songwriter Sharon Glassman (the founder of Smile Songs , a line of musical greeting cards and gifts) about reframing the concept of introversion. The wide-ranging conversation spans what it means to be an introvert — touching on how she hacked her career to make it work at her own speed, her journey from fashion journalist to performer, her introvert superpowers, being a ‘yes’ versus a ‘no’ person, and falling in ...

Mar 02, 202232 minSeason 1Ep. 26

Happy Hour: Reframing in the Wee Hours (Episode 25)

All about reframing our changing selves! We are not static. Recording early morning from the farm, Bec and Nat check in on the problems they tried to reframe for each other back in Episode 11. Bec’s question was around asking too many “whys.” And Nat’s was around navigating feelings of discontent. The sisters come to the conclusion that taking each other’s advice is not simple and these “problems” are going to need multiple iterations. Also, they like the rawness of each other’s brains at 7:45 a...

Feb 23, 202244 minSeason 1Ep. 25

Reframing Success with Novelist Marissa Stapley (Episode 24)

Bec and Nat interview writer Marissa Stapley, whose writing career takes a major turn when Reese Witherspoon endorses her latest novel Lucky . Marissa Stapley has worked as a newspaper journalist and magazine editor, and is now the internationally bestselling author of the novels Lucky , a Reese’s Book Club December 2021 Pick, The Last Resort , Things to do When It’s Raining , and Mating for Life. Her work has been published in fifteen countries and two of her novels, including Lucky, have been ...

Feb 16, 202239 minSeason 1Ep. 24

Reframing Gratitude! (Episode 23)

Bec and Nat decide to reframe the January blues with gratitude as their February focus. Nat recalls an episode of The Huberman Lab podcast where he talks about the necessity of introducing story/narrative to really make for a truly brain-changing gratitude practice. Bec reads a shiver-inducing letter from one of Nat’s students and then they check in on how Nat is feeling post reading! Bec and Nat learn that they can search out a story for their own gratitude practice (if they don’t have a studen...

Feb 09, 202237 minSeason 1Ep. 23

Interview with YouTube Stars Jessii & Mandii Vee (Episode 22)

Bec interviews YouTubers Jessii Vee and Mandii Vee — their first podcast interview ever! And one of the few interviews they have done as sisters. The sisters share about how they have reframed their entrepreneurship during COVID and the ways their family supports one another — including family meetings to brainstorm videos! They also talk about the bullying each of them endured and how they have moved to healthier places in their lives and even learned from those hard times. Jessii lets a new pr...

Feb 02, 202237 minSeason 1Ep. 22

Redirecting the Light: Reframing Our Shadow Sides (Episode 21)

In this week's episode: 1. Bec wants to talk about what blinders we still have about ourselves in our 40s…Nat prefers the more Jungian language of “shadow sides!” 2. Bec shares two of what she believes are her shadow qualities but Nat reframes one of them, Bec’s chameleon-like tendency in a group, to be a strength. 3. Bec reframes Nat’s tendency to walk away from conversations as having a positive sense of personal boundaries. They talk about multiplicities and embracing the many parts of themse...

Jan 26, 202244 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Mental Health Reframe with TEDx speaker Johnny Crowder of Cope Notes (Episode 20)

Bec and Nat interview TEDx speaker and Forbes-endorsed mental health advocate Johnny Crowder , who has built a whole system around reframing negative thinking. Almost his whole life, Johnny didn’t know that he could work out his brain like he did his body. We all need to find the right wording when it comes to self-care. We might not speak the same language but we are needing the same things. Johnny tells us about his company which provides daily mental health support via text messages to interr...

Jan 18, 202244 minSeason 1Ep. 20

Sleepless in Toronto (Episode 19)

The sisters attempt to reframe sleepless nights — a problem which comes from a listener. They both agree it’s a hard one especially given that Nat hasn’t had a full night’s sleep in eight years. Bec asks if sleeplessness could be reframed for new mothers as doing hard things? Like the cold plunge from the spa — a good shock to the body’s system? They discuss how the constraints imposed through sleepless nights could lead to generating…something! For Nat it led to the writing of a PhD! Why not wr...

Jan 12, 202242 minSeason 1Ep. 19

New Year's Revolutions (Episode 18)

For this episode on New Year’s Revolutions Nat and Bec begin by discussing their foray into TikTok. Is it humiliating or are they taking healthy risks? :) Bec brings up the idea of improving someone else’s life in this new year if you don’t feel equipped to improve your own right now. Natalie troubles this notion as she considers the dangers of help that is misguided. But at the same we don’t want to devolve into myopic self-help. It’s a delicate tightrope. They discuss Bec’s husband’s statement...

Jan 05, 202237 minSeason 1Ep. 18

Announcing...a tiny break!

Two week break for Sister On as we tend to some of our own self-care! But in the meantime please subscribe to our newsletter and check out any episodes your might have missed. See you in 2022! We can't wait to keep on reframing with you! We love hearing from our listeners! Leave us a voice message , write to the show email , or send us a DM on any of our socials. If our conversations support you in your own reframing practice, please consider a donation on our Patreon , where you can also hear b...

Dec 22, 20213 min

Holiday Reframed (Episode 17)

In their second holiday episode (which means they tried to talk shorter for all their busy listeners!), Nat and Bec reframe the notion of holiday and what it will be this year. Bec unpacks the etymology of the word holiday… from Old English haligdaeg (holy + day), and they realize they might need to look for their own “sabbath.” They discuss turning a concept on its head — like the positive acne trend! Nat says she can't look at the notion of holiday straight on these days when it looks so diffe...

Dec 15, 202135 minSeason 1Ep. 17

Gift Giving: Reframed (Episode 16)

For this holiday episode, Nat suggests that they reframe the notion of gifts. She offers up the philosopher Emmanuel Levinas’ notion of “gift” which focuses on how power is shared between the gift giver and the receiver. Bec processes this idea at a slow pace. She too wants to embrace the vulnerability that comes with giving and realizes she has to give up expectation, even of her family tree trimming moment. They realize that the best moments can came when they are just receiving whatever is ha...

Dec 08, 202139 minSeason 1Ep. 16

The Best Things Come in Twos (or New and Now) (Episode 15)

The sisters acknowledge the passing of Natalie’s 17 year old car, and more importantly the passing of legend Stephen Sondheim. Nat sings a line from "Send In The Clowns." Inspired by her son’s curiosity, Nat wants to return to the beauty of questions without feeling so tied to finding answers. Which ties together nicely with their two new problems to reframe from a listener, who asks about 1) nudging people along through mentorship and 2) does reframing need something from another? Bec admits th...

Dec 01, 202143 minSeason 1Ep. 15

Mantras and Metaphors (Episode 14)

Nat and Bec go rogue in this conversation. A question about New Year's Resolutions spirals into finding something better… a poetic motto? Maybe an action mantra? Nat wonders if they can be less productivity oriented with their "resolutions." Maybe some lines from literature are best of all for teaching us how to live! She offers up Rachel Cusk's Second Place and a poem by Hanif Abdurraqib. Bec reads some excerpts from National Book Award Winner Jason Mott's Hell Of A Book as her teacher of the m...

Nov 24, 202141 minSeason 1Ep. 14

Loss and Found (Episode 13)

Nat has been thinking about loss now that her son is against kisses. It spurs her to write a piece that she shares, called "Loss and Found." The sisters muse about some of their great losses and some of the benefits of experiencing pain—it leads us to empathy. They manage to get their mom to contribute to the podcast, not in a conversation, but in her own written piece about loss. "Mom" writes about her favourite books that share a commonality in navigating great loss. They both shed their first...

Nov 17, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 13

2 in 1: Our Second Call-In + Interview with Singer Felicity Williams (Episode 12)

Nat and Bec reframe a new question about the labels we put on our kids. Also they air an interview they have been sitting on with their old friend and singer extraordinaire Felicity Williams. (You might recognize her voice from our opening music!) The theme which resonates through both parts of the episode: the changing seasons of life. We love hearing from our listeners! Leave us a voice message , write to the show email , or send us a DM on any of our socials. If our conversations support you ...

Nov 10, 20211 hr 3 minSeason 1Ep. 12
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