What Snoop Dogg Wants Everyone to Know

comes to the Red Table for healing session. I've had a bit of a complicated relationship with you from Afar, and you can understand that when you first said what you said, you know in regards to Gail, we expect more from you. Gail, respect the family and back off my heart trucks. You may think it was more people against me, It was more people with and I wanted to make sure that the message was across that we love Kobe and be respectful of Vanessa and those kids.

Have you talked to Gail? What did your mama say to you? When someone becomes a superhero, it's our job to protect that superhero. This will be my first time meeting Snoop. You're kidding me, you've never met him in person. If we've crossed paths, but we've never met met How interesting is that? Especially considering how close here? I know, I'm excited. Yeah, snoop dogg. Hey ladies, what's up? Girls? Who is happening this? Snoop? What's up? Believe this is

like our first time actually meeting, meeting right right. I'm happy you're here. I'm happy to be here. What's up? Mother? I'll say where you get it from? A welcome? Thank you? Hello girl, I'm good, hurry doing good? I'm good. All right, Well, let's go to show me. Leave me to this red table whereverybody's been chopping it up. Let me give me some game in here. What the devil is this? You know I'm a fashion guy. First, I'm gonna enjoy my uh see if I get my walk on on this

right here? Oh oh wow, I finally made it to the table. Yes, this is it right here, And thank you all for having me real talk. And I love what y'are doing as far as three generations of how mama you and then baby girl and how y'all really just be real about it. There's so many broken homes y'all showing y'all showing together this. We need this, we try, We're trying. You're doing good. Welcome to a special Red Table. As you know, the last few weeks there's been controversy

around Snoop and GAYL King. This conversation is not about taking sides. This conversation is not about trying to prove who's right or who's wrong. This conversation is about healing. I looked at this as a huge opportunity to talk about the wounds and culture of disrespect between black men and black women. And I want everyone to know that I invited Snoop to the table, and I also invited GAYL King to the table. GAYL King has an open

invite for whenever she wants to come. First of all, this is great because you know, you and I have been around for a long time, and along the way, I had a bit of a complicated relationship, you know, with you from Afar. You can understand that. But there's two times in your career where I really I just had to cheer for you, hardcore. Thank you. I don't want to get emotional about the one I'm about to talk about, Homie Tight again. I cried to I just camera.

This is this is a deep one because you don't know about this, but during that whole pop Shook Night thing, right, and I'm really glad that you and should have made peace.

Let me start there, because that's deeply important. Okay, so I'm so glad about that, But I have to admit that doing those very complicated times, you were the only person that came out and stood up to Shug Knight and spoke out and for me during a time where I really felt like my hands were tied and I was powerless, the fact that you were like, I'm not

having it, I'm not having it. There were still people that I cared about that were entangled in that mix in a certain way, and the fact that you were willing to set boundaries gave me a relax right and just the message that extent and it kind of took the boogie off the boogeyman. I get it, I trust me, I get it. That was such a painful time, but you had to take your stands on you know what,

This is not my fight, Yeah, Snoop. Can I just tell you that's the brotherhood sisterhood that we must create without talking. You get what I'm saying. I shouldn't have to talk to you to get your back, but that's what I'm saying, Snoop. So then here we go. The second time, all right, the second time I was rooting for you was your apology to Gail King. Can I just tell you why when you first said what you said,

you know in regards to Gail, my heart trots. I felt like, not only were you talking to Gail, but she were talking to me. I was like, oh no, Snoop has now taken his power flow away from me, away from Willow, away from my mother. Right. I was like, if this is what's happening, I was like, not, Snoop, let me ask how you even got in at space because I know that you have dealt with a lot of loss recently, which is a matter of me losing

control because we still have a swallow nip. We're still in golf, and that that's still in our heart right now. We still hurt behind that. And then Kobe and his daughter. Yeah, and then you lost of grandson recently that I lost of grand grandmother. So it's like and then I got to be stronger front everybody remember that point. Yeah, he got to turn it on. It's time to be Snoop again.

But what about what I want to cry? What about when I'm hurt and I'm feeling bad, and I feel disgusted, and I want to be angry, and I want to just blar it out. I can't. I let my emotions get the best of me. I was frustrated on top of just just Thenny and doing it the wrong way. Talk to us a little bit about your relationship with Kobe and what made it so um yeah, painful when you saw that interview. Kobe was like the son and the brother to l a that we that we all needed,

and we all loved him for that. You know, from the early nineties to his last days of playing basketball, we watched him growing to a man, a father, mentor a leader, and he was the kind of guy that was forgiving. He was the kind of guy that was apologetic. So I had to take that on and say, let me put a little bit of him and me. But our relationship was based off of just being fans. I'm a fan of his, he was a fan of mis I loved everything he didn't own the court, off the court.

I loved him as a father to his daughters and how he was transforming into that man that we all want to be. Yeah, we all want to be that man that's loved by the kids and their wife had just to stand up. Guy, Like, to get to that point in life is hard. Hard. When this whole Gail thing came up, I do feel like there was a lot of anger built up, built up, like black man furious. I have not seen that as a collective in a

long well. Of course, we just came from behind closed doors, and it's it's a collective feeling of you guys are targeting us, you guys are coming after us, you guys are us. A lot of Black men felt attacked, you know, and that we as black people on both sides, you know, how the wounds that we have to deal with as a community. How I think we expect each other to have a bit more sensitivity, you know what I mean,

especially for our superheroes. When someone becomes a superhero. We don't have a lot of them, but when someone becomes a superhero, it's our job to protect that superhero. So that's why we have that in our hearts while y'all acking us right after we make it. Do you think that some of that feeling of like you're targeting us, like that feeling comes from almost like maybe a shared or like passed down PTSD, like psychologically and emotionally from

our history in the school. You hit it right on the you know what I mean, it's automatically we feel like we're targeted. Yes, we get caught up in our pains and we just want to like we want to, we want which is the most human hand? When did you realize that this was now a national debate? It got bad fast. It went' from me just entny to a maddened Yeah, got the whole world in the uproar. And what's crazy is you may think it was more people against me, It was more people with me. We know,

I saw that strange. Thank you said, we've been on the same right, But you shouldn't have said it like that. That you get that, and I'm a man, Yeah, don't bother. It was how but that it just shows that I needed to be bigger, right, because I could have created a worse situation by saying, you know what, they with me? So I'm right. No, No, there's always some wrong in the right right. You just have to look forward. And

I went looking for it. Yeah, I wentn't looking for because I wanted to make sure that what I said was said the right way, and I wanted to make sure that the message was across that we love Kobe and be respectful of Vaness and those kids. That's what the whole intent was, to protect that woman and them babies over there because she's still grieving and let's give them that respect. How did it make you feel when you saw what was happening in regards to your words,

when you saw how people reacted. It made me feel like I had much power and at that particular time, I was abusing it mm hmm. And that's just what I felt, and I had to get it right right. I want to talk about the turn that happened that made you decide to apologize in the way that you did, because that's so powerful. It was like I was, like, you know, I'm a great person as far as understanding when I'm wrong. Like I like being an example of wrong the right because my whole career is based off

of being wrong and right. So I get it and I understand and I love being that example. But this time was different because Mama called, what did your mama say to Well, my mother raised me in church and she raised me to respect women. So it was just certain things that she said to me that took me back to being a little kid. And when your mama can make you feel like a kid, that's when you got to get right. I didn't feel grown. I didn't feel like I was Snoop Dogg the wrapper. I felt

like Opie, like okay, all right. And she didn't said I was wrong. She just was just giving me yes, yes, your representation of us, Yes, us, every woman that ever crossed your life, your representation of that. So I got it, and I didn't tell my team. I didn't go to my publicist and say, hey, guys, I'm planning on I just did it and then I hit him with it. So I would like to apologize to you publicly for the language that I used and calling you out of

your name and just being disrespectful. And I was like, wow, we were thinking about putting together a tweet. You don't have to a tweet ain't the heart. Sometimes to tweet get misread. I misunderstood. When I'm talking to you and you're looking into my eyes and you're hearing me, it's a real it's a real respect of the apology is authentic,

it's sincere, and I'm really sorry. Yeah, have you talked to no but I've reached out through her friends, with her associates, and I even d m her sitting her prayer, let her know I apologize to it. Just doing all the things that I could do to just put my effort forward, you know what I'm saying, because I was wrong.

I said I loved to meet with you privately. That was my last that was my last soul, that was my last line, just to make sure that it wasn't going to be watered down and deluded where I can actually give her a hug, looking her eyes and talk to it like we're talking. Yeah, this is a little bit different than you know what I'm saying. You know, it's much different because just just feeling the beauty of your spirit snoop, Right, you gotta love e dovey spirit.

You got to take away any of his gangster You can that from a text. You can't feel that from a tweet, right Me. Apologizing was a big difference because people didn't expect that. They thought I was gonna hold onto my gangster and be like, you know, saying what I said, and people looking up to me and saying, well, I like what you did, Snow, how can we better ourselves? Correct my stakes? And not feel ashamed and not feel less of a man because I said I'm sorry, and

that's usually what it is. You just man up and deal with it. That I don't mind being checked, yea, because if I'm wrong, check me. Because I don't want to keep repeating my mistakes, because I want to be a better person. I got kids, grandkids, you know, my mom and them and her friends and Auntie them. I can call you again. You had me. You know what I'm saying. I want to be in the church dog

out right. I love you saying I don't mind being checked because that means you're always open to learning, right, And that's it. That's all we can do. All the student enough studying. When this thing happened with Gail, I got calls from Tyler, Perry Puff, Daddy Van Jones, like powerful black men, and they didn't bash me, and they just was, brother, we got you back, you know if you need, but we thank you. You should have said it right. See how they got to that and just

start off with that. It's a big difference. What you get what's happening in I'm gonna mantch energy with energy you get at me? What the hey, brother, We're just calling them. Let you know we support you and we love you. You know, you could have want to buy a little bit differently you think, so yeah, all right, what what could I do? Thank you, brother, I appreciate you. We got a real brotherhood going on behind the scenes.

I love hearing that many prominent women express their appreciation for your public apology to GAYL King and Dr Ian Lovin, Zan send a message to oh Wow, I'm scared of her. I'm over here with Willow like old what I indeed now deep bow to you, my sister woman Jada, and I thank you for this opportunity and for this conversation that we're having. And to you, my beloved Snoop, I honor your courage, your integrity, and the demonstration of leadership

that you are for apologizing for your behavior. I don't believe that the culture of disrespect is new, specifically African American people. We have been programmed and conditioned and educated in a society that expects us to accommodate, tolerate, and accept both public and personal disrespect. My challenge to Snoop and anyone else involved, particularly those of us who have a public forum, is to say and do only those things that will facilitate healing, and I believe that's what

the apology did. Okay, that's the doctor. She Actually, that's a great brought up because we are programmed, we are conditioned, and see, when you identify then you know better. So Male Health is a sports journalist and also has a very special message just for you, Jamail. Yeah, yeah, that's my girl. She got mad at me when I when I took off on guild on the first half, feelings You're gonna check me if I'm wrong, Snoop, I want to thank you for apologizing. I know what you said.

It was out of character and coming from a place of hurt, but we need to find a way that we can correct one another dialogue with each other without it potentially causing harm. Black men in this country have been made to feel like a target, and the weight of that hurt and pain that they've absorbed from the world comes back in our direction. Sometimes we are made the targets simply because we are a very easy group

to take out your frustrations on. No matter where you are and what your hierarchy is in this society, we're guaranteed to be on the bottom of the tolden pole and look snoo. If you know how much I love you and respect you, you wanted to o GS in this game. I think that you apologizing was a really

big thing. I appreciate that as somebody who has always placed you in a prominent position in our community, and just in knowing you and knowing how you've treated me when they came for me, you were one of my supporters, So you know, I just appreciate the fact that you were able to help us push this conversation along in

a positive direction. Yes, And that's heavy because because when they went after her, I was there, like there for her, like what you want me to do, like it's real, like black Man fashion, like with the soldiers ready to go when it's like to hear that. It helped me step back and say, how many women in my life that depend on me, that need me and I need them? And there's so many right that you don't even know, just like when I told you that story earlier, you

don't even know what that did for me. And I think sometimes we just lose sight of how much we need each other so that we can all just stand proud and together in power. If we don't have y'all, we got nobody when I have a couple of ideas of how disrespect is cultivated between black men and black women. I think one of the most difficult obstacles that we have to deal with is that there's still so much misogyny in our culture. So what do we do to try to change that? Are trying to be one individual

when you've actually been a part of the problem. I admit that I've been the one that said nigger bitches holes. I used that my whole seven to ten years of my first beginning of my career, So it's kind of hard to like take those words out of the equation when I got to do shows that people love that

song for those words. So just last year, you came out with a new album and it almost seems like you had a relax you went back to the calling women bitches, And let me explain to you, it's it's hard to let go something that you've been accustomed to your whole life, your whole life and something that you really trying to work on. Is sometimes where it's like, oh man, I had a back. It used to be a time when my music was everything. You know. Snoop's music,

his songs, his words. But once you become a grown man and you realize that your words have powercussion and you have power, then you have to pull back. And even me and Pop got into it because he was like he wanted me to stay gangster, and I was like, cuz I got a baby on the way, I'd just be the murder case. I have a lot to live for. He had no kids, pocket and I used to get

into his usage of bitch and home. We got into a hard core He could give you this beautiful record, and I was like when and he's like, I'm not talking about you. And it's as we was torn though, like to be able to do this and that it's like he wasn't talking about you, but he had to talk to those that was out there. So here's the thing. Though he tried his best to define from me. He tried to define from me the difference, which of course never no sense at all. Right, So you're saying your

definition would make no sense. I'm not gonna try to explain because I felt like in the beginning that was a word that was brainwashed, that was taught to me, and I just misused and I just kept just throwing it out there, throwing it out there, and I've saying it came back to me on the girl because I got rid of it to a certain extent, and Mom only called him one time. Two years ago. I put out a gospel album, the whole album that was just gospel clean. Nobody wanted to talk about that. But the

minute I say, bitch hole. But that's what that's a problem. And we do right, we don't get commended. So it's easy for us to backslide when no one's going to say, man, that was beautiful what you did. Keep up the great work. That sounded good. So what do you think, Snoop, How can we because we have all these wounds that that

we deal with as a community. Because I really feel like the relationship between black men and black women, those wounds run so deep on so many levels because a lot I'm starting your house with grandmama, mama, then it seeps out into your relationships with the women that you have.

Let me ask you a question. I often wonder if the relationship between black men and women, and sometimes the complicated relationships that black men have with their mothers, because usually we are the only ones there in the household right, And it's complex because I think a black son knows that his mama has been the only one yeah there for him. But as you and on both know, just in male nature that once a young man is growing up and starts ramming a little get away from mama,

he wants to get away from Mama. But also I think sometimes how mama has to put control in on her black son, it works against her sometimes sometimes because he becomes angry and mad towards the girl that he's work based off of the way his mother treated him. Because I remember when I first left my house, me and my wife used to argue about you ain't my mama, how you gonna tell me what? And that was the first thing I had to get rid of to stop saying that because I kept looking at her as my mother,

like when you say something to me. I left my mama house because I didn't want to be told what to do. God, but that's just me being wrong, Like, stop judging you off of how my mother raised me, and look at us for who we are. There were times when my mother was like, I will take your ass outside and slam you on that call. Mama did it, She didn't say that she did it so back then

they could do that, right. But you know, you're trying to protect the way that y'all raised was the best that y'all knew, how y'all was preparing us for life, and life don't love you and it was tough love. I wouldn't trade it for nothing in the world, right, So, snoop, Unfortunately we've lost another young soul. Yeah, And I was just with that young man in New York and just seeing his spirit and watching him do his thing and him coming to l A trying to get away. And God,

don't make no mistakes though. He talking to us right now, and we need to heed his messages, understand why all of this is happening, Understand what's the importance of something like this. And I've always been able to be the one in front of it all. I gotta go home and think about this because this is this was a low blow right here, twenty year old. Some of my friends were so heartbroken, Like I was calling, just like, oh my goodness, I can't make sense of all of it.

I just really can't. It's a fast life and a lot of times everybody don't really understand what goes into this thing right. This is a business, and it's also it's trifling if you don't have the right people around you. It's so true. That's why you've got to have the right representation and you've got to know who you are when you're getting into this industry because the music you represent represents you as a person. Swell until you learn how to separate the two and become him on record,

him in real life. That part, Yeah, And it'd be hard to get to that part because you're so my record is selling because I'm so real and I'm so this, I'm sold. But then that comes with it. Yes, And I think that's the part. And even if you think you want some real, it's always somebody more. Really, I guess it's just trying to figure out how to stop, because it's to me, it's just a cycle of self hatred. Why we keep perpetuating the cycle of self hatred has

created some positivity too. We don't only want to speak on the negative, we want to sleep on the positive. When I first came out, Death Roll Records was the first label to have Bloods and Crips together. Bloods and Crips is very very serious gang bang. It was very very serious, speed the clock up to you got bloods and crypts doing songs together. Yeah, you got everybody cool with each other. Now you've got relationships with neighborhoods that

used to kill each other, that love each other. That's why I love Nips so much, Nipsey and why g were like this and their bloods and crips and they loved each other forever, and that was unheard. Yeah, right, you know, I do. I do. You made a good point right there, because if I come over here and you tell me about all the things I've done wrong, and I'm gonna leave here like I don't like Jayden,

but get me right, we're beautiful talking about anything. That's probably was the answer you was looking for when you were saying, what can we do? We can talk about how good we are what we're doing right there, you girl, Snoop, don't that make sense? Let's bring fish bowl out. That means there's some questions that the people ask from the public. I think so no Snoop Dog ain't gotten them of this block, all right, snore, get to go first. Let me do what you did. Then, I like that flipping

flat jacks around here. I'm gonna take this one right here because it kills like it belongs to me. Matthew Darborn, Michigan. How did you get the name Snoop? Well, Matthew, um, my mother said, I used to watch a show called Charlie Brown and it was a character on their name Snoopy. Yeah right, And I used to like love him so much, and she started calling me Snoopy and then went from Snoopy to Snoop Dogg And that's just what it is. So I have a fetish with Snoopy from Charlie Burnet.

Let's see, all right, so miles from Oakland, Snoop, how did you and your family cope after the loss of your grandson? Actually, my son helped me cope because he was strong and he put out a message something to the effect that God warning his angel up there rather than down here, and it just it helped us heal knowing that that the baby wouldn't have to suffer, the baby wouldn't have to go through none of this. So it just put a you know what I'm saying, to

put a bright smile on our face. We held ourselves and my and my son did. It was his son that he lost, but he was the one that put the the information which made us all strong. Yeah that's a beautiful one too, because that's so true. Yeah, that's a beautiful one, and that's a healing in this. Okay, I have a question, and it's not really from the fishball, but who do you seek counsel from? Like when you are in times of and we all have somebody that

we go to. That's a great question. Mom Um. Well, in the beginning, I used to see counsel from Charlie Wilson from the Gap bed Um. Charlie Wilson helped keep my marriage together because it was times where I felt like I don't want to be in here no more. I want to go and being stupid, just being stupid period, and Charlie would bring me back to reality, like that's the best thing that ever happened to you. The music hasn't been married for a really long please believe it.

Yeah now, because you're I mean, you've been married together. Yeah, she's been my girl for Yeah. If you're gonna love, you're gonna love love. Yeah. Yeah, because that's his high school sweetheart, right yea, Yeah, it's true. You can fall in love for a long time. It's just so you don't see that very often. You don't when you get to what we had. Now it's just all fun and we don't even argue. What argument last about five seconds?

You want right like you want, you want. But that's Charlie Wilson has always been like that, that rock for me to bring me to reality. Like I don't caring about you being successful. That's your wife. That's the love of your life. When you're sick and you can't do it no more and they don't want to hear you no more. She's gonna be right there, get it together before she get gold being checked. Hello, you have to you have to want to be checked if you're going

to check somebody. Yeah, said again, territory the ruler the game. We're gonna leave it right there. Yeah, we're gonna leave it right there. Part leave it with the uncle snoop. Is that girl powering here to the third degree generations of love? Yeah? Stand what I'm saying, Thank you all for having me to dance. I needed this. I needed this conversation with three beautiful women who have great insight and great intellect, and just to converse with y'all to

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