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Jada Goes Bald

Sep 23, 202137 minSeason 4Ep. 79
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Superstar comedian Tiffany Haddish crashes the Red Table determined to find out why Jada shaved her head. Plus Insecure star Yvonne Orji shares her traumatic hair journey. Then, three brave women make a bold choice and shave their heads for the very first time on camera!

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Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the Red Table Talk podcast, all your favorite episodes from the Facebook watch show in audio, produced by Westbrook Audio and I Heart Radio. Please don't forget to rate and review on Apple Podcasts. Hey guys, so check this out. I'm here to surprise Jada. She out you're cutting her hair off? Turning back. No, I got some questions for her. What she thinks she's doing out here in these streets? Girl? Why do you cut your hair off? Are you copying me?

What's really going on? So? I called Jada, she doesn't answer my phone calls. I'll put a light on her pros She says nothing. So now I'm on her house. So she don't want to talk about it. I'm gonna take it to the Red Table Talk. I'm crashing the show. Let's go. So hey R T T family, we took a little break and now we're back with all new shows and I'm new at me. Good guys. That comes in a pretty little lie. Beautiful. What an accomplishment for the age generations so black women, I love it. And yes,

we also have some new hairstyles. Okay, you had issues with your hair? Oh my goodness, you can't from Mommy's bill come out of nowhere? You sure that? I was like, what made you come here today? What is doing on? I came through the day because you know I heard you was talking about hair. This is good because I've never got to ask you, like when you took your

hair off off? So what made you do that? During that that pandemic time to beginning the pandemic, you know, I was reading the Bible more and checking up from the Tora and everything and everything is talking about know myself, knows thself, and I just kept resonating with me, and I'm like, Okay, when I hear things, I take it literal. So I got like a little body chart and I started mapping out everything on my Bible, like, okay, here go every scar, this is where it's happened right here.

That's when I got bit by that spider. This when I fell through the foul cabinet. And I'm like, I don't know what's going on in mine. I don't know what kind of scalp I got. I don't know what's going on under this hair. And so I had to go do reshoots for this movie that's about to come out very soon they said I had to take my braids out and you got to wear this wig. And I'm like, man, I'm not gonna be doing no red crop this no time soon. I don't have to take

these braids out. That's gonna take hours. I cut my hair off. Everybody. That was when I was like, don't do that. Oh my god, you're gonna be headed. Oh my god, wait wait wait wait mm hmmm damn. First of all, I when I felt my head, I was I never felt that sensation in my life. Yeah, and it was the most amazing feeling I ever felt in my entire existence. And then I go outside and then it started to rain and it felt like a million kisses on my head. Like how did people react? Like?

People was acting weird? Why would you do this? Oh, she's losing her mind? What are you going through? Are you okay? It's great have have such a different attachment to their hair. Yeah, did you have any revelations? Well, I realized I'm a meeting. It's very neat. I realized that my scalp is like stopped meeting, like it's a little roly poly back there, like a lot of rifles and this, And when my man was like, oh, I couldn't believe you did this. I said, you wanna greez?

My said, I grease it. I'm like, sound good. Okay, So first obviously I was concerned. I was concerned. I was like, it's gonna be talking next. And he was like he looked at it. I called him on the face and he looked. He said, you're beautiful. You look so beautiful. Look at your face. You're gorgeous. I can see you, I can see all of you. And I was like, that pretty fat. You gonna get it. I'm gonna put my ball head on y'all. Ball head. Yeah. But he really appreciated. And when I came in, he

was rebbing. He was like, oh you do got to meet here. Look at the sleezing it and everything. I was like, like, it was great. It was great. And I started to fall in love with myself. That wasn't even an intention. Now I'm seeing myself, like seeing like all my features, see my eyes. I just want to go my nose, my cheeks, and it's like God did a good job putting me together. Bread Um. Yeah, my mom. My mom was really upset. My mom was like, so you're trying to be a man. Why don't you why

you cut all your hair off? Why would you do that? You don't like yourself? And I said, Mama, I love myself. I'm trying to see what you made from the basics, right without the here, without the accessory to wrong me. Mama, we're trying to get to know me. And she was like, I don't know why you would do that. It's just you're not ugly, but you're not. It's not beautiful either, And I said, I'm thinking, I totally understand that you're joyous, Mama.

Cut your head hurt? You got that wheeze man, because I'm gonna tell you, I haven't had a headache, no scout paint things all that heats that no trauma. Yeah no, he don't like it. It's like free. I think it's so inspiring that your man was like so supportive of you, because I feel like a lot of women feel like, oh like I must keep my like they have to have. You can go put the wig at the closet and now all my wigs fit real good, look like like

growing out my What you want tonight? You want becky tonight? Which I want with the gear hair I got you baby, I got you pull that off. We have a and it's so easy to just put it on and he just brush it a little bag and she retty and he's like, oh, who's this. I'm just a man. Yes, it's a different woman, but I think it's interesting. Tif we had similar journeys, Like even for me, it was a mixture of a spiritual hauling and also going girl girl.

At some point, your hairline is gonna be back here, so we might as well just just just do it now. So it was like taking that leap, but so many things I've discovered about myself. You look good. I love it. It's been such a freeing. I mean so much just lifted off of me. That just called me. I was like, the time is now this one. She's like, just do it, Mom, just been acting. You've been wanting to do it for so long. I was like, you would just look so

good with just completely It's gorgeous. Have you ever specifically done your hair for a man. Yes? Yes, I have definitely done things for me. I had this boyfriend and he used to be like, Tiffany, you are so pretty, but you know you would look so much better if your hair went to your breast, you would be way more beautiful. So me and my auntie got together and we tried to put a weave in my head. Man,

it did not work out. I would look crazy. And then when I got married, I was like trying to press out my hair to decide what I wanted my hair to look like. My ex husband said, I ain't never been with a woman that ain't got no perm I don't know how I'm gonna be married to you, and you ain't got no prime. And so I permed my hair and then like maybe three weeks into the marriage, all my hair broke off. It all broke off, and I was like, that's the last time I listened to

some man. And I'm laying down with like how to do my hair? Now only listen to gave me and about my hand telling me what to do with my hair. If you're inside of me, you gotta just roll with a period, okay. Yeah. But if you if you ain't inside of me, you got suggestions, I'm gonna listen because you might be a profession you might know what to do, okay, Um, but if you're inside of me, I don't I don't want that. Yeah, Just so if you like it, or you you with me? Or you're not. Where is that

man now? I don't know, somewhere lonely man looking at billboards and me like, damn it, I said, I told us that leave a natural. I see him matter be who she was. I don't know why I was trying to change it. I should have said, let her be yourself. I see over there. I'm happy with the rapper man its music. Now she laid up with him. I can't believe it. I'm doing my job with it. Will say, when you cut your hair off? How did he respond? Here sent me a picture of you and with your books.

He's the one who shaved my head. So he did it. So I guess she was like, yeah, here we go. Right, that was fun. But we always thank you for coming everywhere. I'm so glad I haven't seen you in so long. Yeah, thank you, guys. I love y'all, absolutely all right, thank you. That was a great sp Why. I just love Tiffany. You just had such a light. You know, I was there when you decided to shave your head. So tell us what that was all about. I had been talking

about shaving my head for a while. We had discussed it many times. It was just time. I was just ready for just that kind of expression and release. I'm so glad I did it. It was such a beautiful experience and such a freedom. I feel more connected to myself and to the Great Divine in a in a very special way. And hairhold energy just wanting to just release all of that stuff. So it was a huge, huge,

huge release. What was the exact moment where you were like, this must happen Like, I was just like I'm over it totally. I'm just like I'm over it. It was that moment I was just like, I'm done. I'm just done with the worry, I'm done with the care. I'm just done. Here we go. That's Miguel. I called. Miguel's like, Miguel, you got your clippers. Yeah, like you got the clippers. Meg He's like yeah, oh my goodness. This is lower

than Willows right now. Yeah. Yeah. So the RTT team says, after I posted my shaved head, their favorite comment came from a Facebook group who really owns their power, called the Bald Boss Movement. I have not seen this or heard about it, but I'm about to hear about it right now. They wrote that they want me to join their club? Down down, so many beautiful women you guys. Wow, Oh my god, I got tears of my eyes. Oh man, wow, hey you beautiase. Oh wow, the club. I want to

we have to join. We gotta join. We gott to join the movie. They look beautiful. Now I hear you're the founder of the bald boss movement. Yes, I don't welcome to the club. What is your mission? Well, in a world where beauty is to determine why what grows on your scalt, whe are here to spread the love from one body to the next and reinforced it. Here. It's like an accessory. Whether you have it or not, it doesn't determine your beauty or your I love that. Okay,

where is Jamie here? I am on this, Hey, Jamie, can you tell us what a bald boss is? Well, a bald boss is someone who owns their baldness, just like a boss owns their business. A bald boss owns their baldness. Yeah, where's Tammy? That's your story. I am bowed by choice. I have been bawed by choice for eight years, and I'm going to tell you eight years ago, I feel like I was born. I feel like this is Tammy straight, No chase you. I was one of

those people. I had hair. I was always concerned, and I would go on vacation and what do I do? And and one day I literally called my daughter downstairs, she was sixteen. I said, can you shave my head? And she said, Mom, you are the baddest you know what? I know? I love that and I have been happy ever since. I hear that you guys are gonna stick around and you're gonna be our first our T T studio audience to me saying I'm so glad. That's awesome. And I see we got some young people. Look at

this little baby girl right here. Yes, women have so much anxiety about their hair, whether you're black, white, Asian, like, I've had all kinds of women just tripping on hair. Yeah. I just remember waking up, and I remember so keenly because it happened to me countless amount of times. I would wake up and I would look at myself in

the mirror and my hair would look like this. It would literally just be like that, and I would look at myself and just be like oh, and it would be so hard, and every time I would try to put something, it would like make a sound, and I was just like, oh my gosh, like and that was every morning. It just always felt just like a challenge or a chore. That's what it felt like, a chore um. And I just didn't feel beautiful, like I just felt

like I looked like a troll doll. Like that's kind of how like those little those little garbage pale their hair, Like, that's how I felt like, I, you have a beautiful head of hair. And I did not like that. She didn't like it. I wanted the flow. I wanted the flow. I wanted the over the shoulder. I can't tell you times I was told, point blank out of somebody's mouth, oh no, boys don't like girls with hair like that, Like they're just not gonna like you, Like you just

need to figure out something else. And so that was just like wow, And you you found out that that was a lot obviously, you found out that was a lie I did. It was a lot of pain. Tell us how hair for you today can still be difficult. Let me just give you an idea. There was a very high fashion, very high fashion photo shoot, and all of the white models we're getting their hair done, and I all had somebody, the person that was supposed to come do my hair came, looked at it and tried

to do something to it, try to touch it. I could tell they were extremely perturbed. I could tell that they were just like, I don't know what I'm doing. That anxiety looking at them in the mirror, not knowing what to do with my head made me feel like I'm going to take the reins on this. So I basically did my own hair for that really high fashion shoe that should never be happening. Even at another high

fashion shoe for a completely different thing. I was in the room and they straight upset, is her hair just a little too difficult to do that specific thing. I've been there too, whether it was in movies, whether it was in wigs. Well, they pat me in some crazy wigs for sure, where people didn't really know enough about black hairs, you know, how to make wigs and blah blah blah blah what the wigs should look like and all that kind of stuff. This was a rough world.

This this, this, this, this, this this this even you even look like, yeah, this was rough because of the woman who made this wig. Just she didn't miss the mark. She missed the mark. She thought that the roots should be um not smoothed, but the hair should be straight. And she was like, well, you know, usually for black women, you you don't have straightened roots. And I said, oh, no, we do me either straighten it with the hot comba

with permit. But she didn't believe me. So she made it with roots that weren't straight, but the hair was. It was a very and I thought that sounds a little like not best intentions either. Well, that was the

last time I didn't have my own hairstyle exactly. I used to have really long hair and it just popped up on my Facebook memory recently and I had all this hair and my hair was down my back and I looked at that, and I remember that at times I felt that particularly men were more attracted to my hair, like that's the first thing that they would see in me. It's my home versus me. Cutting your hair kind of

releases all that. Yeah, and there's something with black men that they feel like you need to have long hair. I just wonder what that's about. It's like standard of beauty, that's the standards because brainwashed to believe that it's funny. Because men did comment on my Instagram page. I'm sure they did. I'm sure someone like, what the hell what are you doing? She was prettier with her long get out of the great thing about it is like, as a woman, as you get older, when you start to

take your power back and everything you do is for you. Yes, I'm about to turn I'm about to be real grown, I'm about to try empty and I don't have time. I don't have time. I really don't. It's like I only have time to care for myself and love for myself, for me and who I want to be, not who people want to see me as, not for how people think I should be. All that night I did again. I did the first half of my life, you know,

immersed in all of that. This next half get with it because I'm just about to just be with it, okay, straight up, Like I don't have time, And part of you know, me just shaving my head was marking that moment. I think hair is just an extension of the deeply ingrained belief that women have been indoctrinated with that we just aren't enough without looking a certain way. And the thing about it is is that we're so much more than how we look. Exactly, and that's where this all comes.

That all comes back to, you know, and really having the confidence as a woman to know that. And if you decide you want to have long hair, if you decide you want to wear we fo, you exactly go for it. But not because you feel like you need to do that to live up to a standard or to be loved, or to be or except to assimilate into Let me tell yes. I was talking to my friend Jimmy Iveen the other day and he says something really interesting. He was like, you know what, I'm done

with Jada convincing people. That's what he said to me. And I said, you know what, Jimmy, I'm about to steal all that because I'm done with that too. I'm done with convincing people. I just feel like that women just taking back our power in any form that you need to to just be done with the convincing, the convincing of people that you're smart enough, you're convincing people,

you're pretty enough, convincing people that you're worthy exactly. You know, for me, coming into the last four years for me has really been about that transformation of just coming to the self and having acceptance for the self and having to go through many different kind of personal journeys to come to that place of really grounding myself in that understanding. That's been the most beautiful part about almost turning fifty, you know, because it's really I'm at the f fifty stage,

you know, because you've earned it. I learned it at them. Get into it, a bitch, just fifty, get into it. Yeah that far right there. We've had quite a hair journey, too much. And this young woman that we're about to bring out has had quite a hair journey as well. You know her from HBO's hit Insecure. Emmy nominated Yvonne Orgy says there was a time she was warned if she didn't have sexy hair, she might not make it in Hollywood. We know all about that. Look at y'all

looking beautiful. Just yes, this is our bad boss. I was actually or whatever. I love it. So you shaved your head during quarantine I did. I was so impressed for my comedy special and it was that blush you thank you, and you know when you're at home, like the hair and makeup is not coming. I was raised by Nigerians. We don't really do hair care. We do put the Wigne, put the Brady, you know anything. I'm like, just cover the hair when you're glad. Squad is not coming.

It's just like my roots are not blending with whatever this wig situation is supposed to be. I was looking like frost to the clown from the Simpsons because it was like growing out on the side. One day, I was just like, you know what, let's go ahead and make this thing happen. So did that give you any sort of like anxiety at all? The trauma for me came when we're gonna be honest at the table. Yeah. When I lived in Harlem. That was the first time I went natural. It was like he said, I'm I'm like,

look at me. But then I was like, all right, I'm going to make the move to l A. L A did not love. It was like I was like, all right, I'm gonna get a weave. I'm gonna get so name because that's what you do in l A. This show was so tight. It was so like bubbling. My scot was bubbling. I had a headache every night. I finally took it off, but the damage was done, scarring alopecia and devastated my poor Scop was like, boo,

what is you doing? And so I took it. I got rid of it, but my hair fell out all the things, and so then I went natural for a while because I was also broke, because you know, in order to have so Trney I'll never forget. When I booked in Secure and I put a weave in again, I put the weave in, dudes were like, oh that's sho bo okay, we see you, and I was so mad, so mad. I hated that because I was like, oh,

I don't want to be attached to this. I want the guy who was like, you s it up, like actually, like the guy who's like, I like your natural hair, but like play with it, you know. So when I cut it in Quarantine, easy to hit me up and was like, girl, yeah, we love that so much. That's gonna be part of season five. You're gonna be so sharp. The very first time I come out here and my mom was like, hey, is it woman's beauty? So what what what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm living

my life like I'm not changed with its hair. It'll grow, We'll figure it out. And it's so funny. When I went back to Nigeria. The women in Nigeria like, ha, you're really doing this natural hair thing? Okay, alright because also like the men, they're like the long hair and the straight And so I was shocked going back home because every one thing, oh the mother Land, yes, and them girls was like okay, so do you want to make an appointment for long yuckie straight? And I'm like, no,

I'm good. I have had many women in my life who have inspired me to go ball, but I gotta give props to my friend and trail blazer Sidra Smith. She shaved her head when she turned thirty and has never looked back and I adore her. I haven't seen her in years. I can't even believe you are here. You gotta say him like, high lady, move, that's our ball ball man over there. Look at Will, Look at you, Look at you. Oh my god. We were doing this show about making the choice to be ball and not

said I am tripping my girls. Sidro was bald before ball was the thing to be, okay, making it a second thirty thirty, I'm fifty where I'm sad and people thought I was crazy, Like are you joining some type of cold People thought I was tripping. What made you doing a thirty? My entire life? I had a weeping yeah. I wanted to reintroduce myself to myself, Like literally, I didn't know what I looked like, and I just was like, who are you? And as a birthday give to myself,

I shaved my head. Listen, this is what's crazy is that when I shaved my head, I had to fix my will. Jade. In my will, I wrote, when I die, make sure I have a freshman. Can you swear to God? You had to change I had to change my will. Could you imagine? It was more about the hair than anything. That's how obsessed I was about my hair, and just so insecure, you know, and just feeling like the only way I would look pretty as with hair, and if

I died, I have to have my hair. When you cut your hair, I just thought it was so bold and so amazing. Listen, it was so I'm telling you, grounded and insecurity. When I shaved my head, it was almost like every piece of insecurity I had was gone. I didn't care about nothing, like I felt so bold and so confident. That's how I felt. It was life changing for me. Well, how does your friends respond to your bald head, like do they think? Like, wh think

I'm crazy? Anyway? I thinking for young women because a lot of young women feel like they need all that. It's like, good for you. So when I revealed this photo of my newly bald head, we heard from many, many women who want to shave it all off, but until now have been too afraid. Three of them are here and say they are ready to be bald and gold baldy all right. It takes a lot of curage to do this, so we're gonna be with them every step of the way. Taren Ali and June he Clad,

You guys are taking the dive today. So what made you want to shave? There's been a stigma amongst my family and myself for years since I was a little kid, basically that if you're a girl, you have to have long hair and you are not allowed to cut it. You should not cut it. And I've been that way with myself with other women as well. If they say they're going to cut their hair, I'm like, no, you're not cutting your hair. I'm gonna kick your butt if

you're gonna cut your hair. I'm mainly just excited to break the stigma and now like, for the first time in my life, I'm like, it's just hair, Na, It's awesome, awesome, and what about you. Ali, Okay, I've been growing my hair for the last three years to donate it for kids with hair loss. That's beautiful. So I thought, Okay, how can I maximize this donation? And then here comes ms Jada, So I was like, I could do that.

I could be that. I've got two daughters and a son, and it's important to me to show them that what's on the outside is not what matters most. They don't have to be weighed down by the opinions of others, and that's what matters to me. That's a beautiful lesson. That's gorgeous. And what about you. I came out of

a a tenure relationship. I was like, you know what, I'm so late on the dating app game, and so I downloaded several apps and I was stressed out trying to find the perfect picture and the description of myself. And then I also started feeling superficial looking at others, and I was like, you know what, I haven't had

this time to date myself. Let it go. So that's the journey I love that the journey of self discovery, self discovery and like shutting composting old beliefs and what I think is attractive to just glow from the inside sounds very similar to mine, just blowing the inside. Yeah, this is awesome. I'm so glad that we're here to be able to take this journey with you. Well, well, here we go, all right you guys, ready, ready, super ready, right, ready,

all right, ladies, let's go by hair. It's been real Yeah, let's go make it happen it. Oh, yes, how are you so? For the first time ever, we got our red table talk Barbara Shot. I'm very excited. We've got our barber's here, Stacy knowing you for a long time by time and nominated Barbara Supreme. Stacy. Give you some folks you don't work with, Stacy Morris better known as Stacy Cuts, Eddie Murphy, Will Smith, Martin Lawrence, Anthony Anderson, to name a few, just to name a few. We're

gonna make you a tag barbar gud and you. I'm Lindsay Rogers, just endised up on Insecure final season. I'm currently working on the host Party remail. Okay, my name is Tommy Kevin, and I am a award winning competitive barber. Okay, working on Blackish with the barber. Yes, I love it. Got our black female barb is suf in the house. I love that. Let me have our beautiful, beautiful, beautiful women's hand, and I'm ready to take the deep die.

The great thing is that you guys have such beautiful faces. Where actually going to be able to really really see you? All? Right? Here we go. Oh I hate a bud a bud o. My goodness. She's the first. She's the first who says, oh you're ready, My good god, come on, Joe, come on, Joe. You love it. You're giving me monks. I can't, I can't. I love it. This is spectacular. I'm this is fly, this is lie. Thank you, O god, you a short hair right now by it. I'm just watching you guys,

and it's just everybody just looks so amazing. Yeah, and in like your own so specific way. Yes, it's such a it's such a flavor like same same hairstyle, different flavors. You know, It's true. You can give everybody to rescue. Oh my goodness, I love that. Oh now everyone's getting the line. Okay, So Alle's ready. All right, it comes cool? Last Alley you good? Are you sure? That sweet girl?

Well done? Well done. The next up is the husband. Yeah, there's longer than mine, for like, cover's like it feels different for sure. Oh, June, you're gonna be really happy. You're going to be extremely happy. Are you ready? Mm hmmm? Can close my answers? Okay, okay, can you see all of the Okay, I'm so proud of you. Yeah. Yeah, next thing, you know, you're gonna wake up tomorrow like, oh, Nancy,

I didn't see the fool. That is beautiful. All right, you're ready, come on over here, so tell me your wishes? Ye you you look like a goddess. Yes, she does. Taren, you're ready, I'm ready. You're ready? Kill me girls? Yes, I look outfit to yo. Ready to see? Yeah? All right, so good, thank you. Yes, let's brand camp was exciting, exciting, y'all are too. That's not the movie. I think this was successful. This was successful. Yes, give me long, give

me passion. Yet I love it. Just watching you guys transform right before our eyes, like this is I love it. This is really awesome to join the Red Table Talk family and become a part of the conversation. Follow us at facebook dot com slash red table talk. Thanks for listening to this episode of red table Talk podcast, produced by Facebook Watch

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