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Politicians should never think I got you. They should always think I gotta do more to get this vote. This is an important conversation to have. We just can't say, well, nobody's doing anything for us. What is it that we want. We've been putting dignity before dollars. Now it's time for us to put them dollars up there with the dignity. Van Jones. We love to compete on an even playing field.
There's something wrong with the NFL superstar Brandon Marshall. The first time I'm voted, it was like pop Quinns for me that I wasn't prepared for. The first time I voted was hands down stressful day and a new family face joins the table as a black woman. Just want to say, it is just so awesome to sit here with three black men who are so intelligent. All right, well, let's bring Tyler out. Y Tyler well beautiful, so much
brighter than it looks on TV. Tyler is a talented musician, filmmaker, actor, and a close family friend. And he's extremely passionate about today's our t T So we had to have him at the table. What you're going to hear at this red table effects all of our lives in a big, big way. It's historic and has an impact on every single one of us, and we cannot wait to talk
to the man behind it. So let's welcome the one and only Ice to He's an icon, spread out, a trump, a movie star, dominant and a successful business on that I want to welcome everybody to the launch of Big Three Now. Legendary rapper Ice Cube has created a brilliant contract with Black America. Shortly after the death of George Floyd, Cube assembled a team of experts and wrote a twenty two page plan to right the wrongs of the past. Fed Up with the lack of progress, Cuba's insisting laws
must be changed in all areas of inequality. His goal everything from better schools, higher paying jobs, and healthcare to major police reform, Cuba's demanding politicians signed the contract to earn the black vote. How y'all doing good, Cube, I know that you decided that you wanted to do this
contract once George Floyd was murdered. Of course, after I've seen that with George Floyd, it kind of shook me to my core, you know, seeing a man face down on the ground like that, you know, with this white officer, you know, looking into the camera, just taking a black man's life, having a man screamed for his mama. It just reminded me of stories I heard of when a slave or somebody would get out of line and they would pull everybody around, just show the discipline and made
everybody watched and lived that horror. So I canceled everything. You know. I was supposed to go on Good Morning America that day, and I just canceled that. I was promoting a movie with Tracy Ellis Ross called High Note, which is actually a good movie. But thank you, thank you, but I couldn't take it no more. I just was so mad and so hurt. But then I was like,
something needs to change, something needs to be done. And we need to get some experts together, and we need to put together something that's concrete that we all, no matter who you are, can grab ahold of and say, damn, it's gonna help my people. Voting is great, but voting with a purpose is better. Like we're gonna get something from this. You tweeted recently, que I've turned into a single issue voter. My single issue is whoever does the most for Black Americans will get my vote. If you
leave us blank, I will leave you blank. I feel like, Yo, it's somebody that I'm not digging. I'm not gonna vote for you. I love all minorities, but we need to specifically deal with what's happening with black Americans because we're the ones who have really suffered from slavery all the way back in the day. When you start looking around, you say, damn, everything needs to be fixed. So I said, well, you know, what are we asking for as black people?
I'm telling you cute. Put in something like this together really help me get more educated. You think you know and you understand, but it really enlightened me on on a lot of things. I was just gonna say in this contract is so important because there's so many Black Americans in particular that are dissatisfied with both the Republican and the Democratic Party and they feel like the parties aren't doing anything for them. But we have to have
an ask. We have to come to the table. We just can't come out and say, well, nobody's doing anything for us. What is it that we want? And we also have to understand that people kind of treat us like all black people think alike. That is not true. We are individuals just like everybody else, and we have different opinions on how things have to run. I think a lot of people think I don't I say, don't vote,
but that's not true. My thing is politicians should never think I got you or he's gonna vote for me. They should always think I gotta do more to get this vote, and they will do more. All parties have to pay attention to our needs. Parties have to pay
attention to what we need done. We gotta let them know, hey, with y'all, I gotta do more, or we gotta we gotta start doing something different because what's happening is one party is putting us in their pocket, and one party is not paying attention to us at all, and so we're not getting anything. So we gotta break loose of that. But we gotta say, hey, you want this, you gotta work for it. I don't care what part do you come from. So that's how we're gonna get more things done.
We're gonna have to shake the trees a little bit. We're gonna have to turn these politicians over and shake their pockets out. I gotta do it right. Hey, let them cruise right. I feel you on that. Now we're gonna go through the Contract for Black America and bring on best selling author attorney and seeing them political contributor Mr Van Joe. It is so nice to have some black men at the table. Black man, I've been begging
to come every time. I'm like please, please. First, I want to say I'm mad at ice Cube because he had come and messed up the whole game politically. Everybody was trying to do it the sneaky way you might try. No, we want some stuff. We didn't even know you can do that. We could actually ask the stuff. That's that's so let me tell you that, man. This really gave me an opportunity to really break down and go like hell yeah, we should be asking for that, and hell yeah,
we should be doing that for me. It was a real education. But let's start with some proposals in the contract that jumped out at me. Um que. You want to change the way schools are funded, that's so important, Oh my goodness. Right now it's based on local taxes, you know, property taxes, and that that just can't be I think that's crazy because you're gonna have better taxes revenue in the in the better neighborhoods, and you're gonna
have poor tax revenue in the poor neighborhoods. And what it should be done is the state should look at all the students and divide the money up evenly. And that would make our schools better overnight because they would be better funded. Yeah that if you look at other countries, that's how they do it. You know, they have one pot and then it's per student, and that way schools that need a boost get it overnight. And some schools they'll live with a little less money going to them.
You know, maybe you're not able to get a new gym this year, or you might not able to get a new artificial turf, But it's really important to give students a chance in poor neighborhoods. This is a major thing. You got kids going to school now, thirty three kids in the classroom, six books, no talk, and then literally you can get in a car in fifteen minutes later you can be in the school where everything is electronic, everything is a screen. Like I don't mean different neighbors,
like different centuries. Some of the stuff that the Cube is talking about. Uh, it may strike people who don't understand the problem as extreme or whatever, but you're dealing with extreme inequality. If they want us to be able to compete, fine, listen, we love to compete on an even playing field. But if you've got to give my kids a two strikes in your our policy and your kid has a twenty strikes policy, don't point to the scoreboard.
There's something wrong with the game, and it starts with education. When we found out that the HBC, HBC used the disparity in the endowments that they're getting, Like there's a hundred two HBC use and between all of them, they're getting two point one billion dollars between all of between yes, two point one billion dollars to spread amongst the hundred to HBCUs by the same token Harbor. It gets forty
billion dollars just for that one school. That's crazy. That's what we're dealing with it, you know, we're dealing with a situation of total inequality. There was another point in the contract that I've just loved. It was the mandatory civil rights and anti racism classes. We gotta teach our history. It's important for us to not sit back and let um Texas or whoever come up with these books, Uh, teach our kids history. But we also need help economically.
You know, we all come from something, you know what I mean, And we know how we was treated when we didn't have money, and we know how we treat it now. So if we could get a little more money into our communities, I guarantee you the treatment would start to get better. So, you know, we've been putting dignity before dollars. I think now it's time for us
to put them dollars up there. Here with the dignity, we have to close the wealth gap, you know, with thirteen point five percent of the country, So why are we only getting three percent of loans? Some of these things that I was looking into, I was like, damn this isn't already in place, you know what I mean? This seems like it's common sense that you know, we should get more than three percent of loans that's giving
out in America. And when you really look deep into what's going on, there's no way for us to ever get on our feet, you know. So we gotta do something different because we can't keep playing the same game. Speaking of loans, you know, there's a point in the contract when you talk about interest rates on black loans to be the same average rates as whites. They charge us more to get the money, and charges more to even get the money. And I think there's a lot
of things the government could do. There's a lot of things the private sector can do. Right now, we're focused on the government because of an election is about to happen. They try to make us think America is a household that's broke and we don't have the money to get the new Jordan's this year because we broke. That's how they make us think we ain't got enough money for y'all because we broke. But America creates currency. It's a
currency creator. That's why I whenever there's a war, they go click click click, and then the billions are there. Whenever the you know, this pandemic click click, click, three trillion is there. They always say inflation is gonna run high if you print money, but inflation hasn't moved. So the money is there to help the communities. We just got to push the politicians to do it. The thing about it is, I mean, you just saw it happened.
They You just saw the government fire three separate trillion dollar cannons at the economy and didn't hit a poor person the whole time. So you know, I remember when a trillion dollars with a lot of money. Now it doesn't say like a lot of money. This regime has fired three trillion, and they might do another trillion before Thanksgiving. So what he's talking about is true. It's really it's reality, and the FED has leaned in so far to make sure the stock market stays up. Look, you see people
don't have jobs. People walking around here don't know. People getting evicted by the gazillions right now while we're talking, don't have healthcare. I can't see a doctor. But the stock markets through the roof. Why because of the black people never talk about the FED cube is causing a whole bunch of problems. I'm telling you, if you have to start glitching right now, if you start glitching, it's
not your computer. I always be saying stuff like that and people be looking at me like no, and I'm like no, this is real, Like they're just and people think that, people think that that's not how it works, but it does, and it's a real issue. The whole thing is, we can't be really looking out for too many other people because we are pretty raggedy right now. It's time for us to get it together. We gotta understand we're living in a capitalistic society that only respects money.
This society, money is their god. It's not our god, but it's their god, and we have to respect it as such. They don't care about people as much as they care about money. And until we get a hold of some of that, we're gonna be treated like we have none of it. And that's what's happening. They've made us the weakest link in the change. So you gotta typen up the weakest link. And you know it's systematic. I wanted to talk a little bit about the importance
of black banks. I'll talked to a leader of a black bank, and I said, well, what if we got government to pump more money into your bank so you can lend more money to black people. He's said, we don't really want government money because they're gonna put so many regulations on it. Our customers can't jump through all these thresholds that they have to meet to get the loans,
and nobody really meets all these crazy requirements. So the key is to go in there and try to break down those regulations in a way and say, look, black money to a black bank. We gotta do things the black way, you know, we gotta be able to tailor make something for our customers. So those things are mucking up the system where you know, the money can't float
like it should. Correct if you go to the government and how the government do it, they're gonna put in so much red taper whatever, you're gonna wish you would even not have the conversation half the time. Yeah, I talked to a guy at JP Morgan who who they did an experiment where they lent money to over four hundred people who normally couldn't get a loan at a regular bank. They kind of ease off the restrictions and let these people get along. He said, do you know
how many people did not pay their loan back? I said how many? He said too? Wow. Two. So when we get money and we're responsible, we pay it back because we know if we don't, they're gonna give it to us. So we we are trustworthy if we can actually get along. You want police reform in the contract, So give us the top line on this qualified immunity. That's the key. You know, when people can do stuff to you and they know they're gonna get off um, then what's stopping them. It gives them the go ahead
to harmon. So qualified immunity gotta go. I also think police should have, you know, liability insurance. If they miss use their gun or whatever their power, they lose their license. A taxi driver needs a license, said, your taxi cab, you take your license away? You can't, you can't dry your cab. You mess up as a cop, take your license, suspend your license. So do you hate me more than indeed your family? Do you want to be racist more
than you want to be a cop? You know, we pay for them to be police, and then we pay for them when they whoop us. And we got to sue them, taxpayers pay again to settle the lawsuit, identifying that what's called the bad apples and getting them off the force. Don't let them go to another police force down the road. Kick them off. It needs to be the nationwide database so we can see who these bad cops are and what they've done. I love what que
was saying about. You know, do you want to kill this black man more than you want to feed your family. I just think that extra step and make a guy think twice before he hurt somebody for nothing, especially right now, because you see time and time again that the police officers are getting off when they're getting charged, they're not getting convicted for the crime that they're committing. So it just keeps perpetuating the same thing. Oh we're not going to get in trouble for this, so I can I
can kill. The term is called impunity. Uh, you can do something with impunity with where nothing happens to you. If you have eight hundred thousand people, which is how many police officers were blessed to have. I'm from a law enforcement family, so I know a little bit about this besides being an attorney. If you have eight hundred thousand people, and you give them all guns, badges, batons, fast cars, tasers, pepper spray, helicopters, dogs, the whole deal,
and if they go out and keep the peace. But we we we respect you so much, We like you so much. No matter what you do. You will never be disciplined, demoted, fired, sued, or jailed no matter what you do. The Police Officers Union to have set up when you can't be easily disciplined, demoted, or fired, even if everybody knows you're a cowboy. I think the police name more services. I think they need more specialists to
deal with certain things. We don't always need the tough guys to be police, you know, we need to need the common sense guys sometimes. So the funding the police became a bad word that, But we just want better police and you wouldn't have to defund anything if they just treated us right. Next, we have equal health care facilities in all neighborhoods, regardless of demographics. Yes, mean, that just sounds like human rights. Like to me, that just
sounds like that should be basic. If you fix Black America, the rest of America is gonna be fine, you know what I mean? If you get the people who are having real problems, but they do it the opposite. They take care of the community that don't need the help first, then they say they have no money for everybody else. So it doesn't make sense. You saw it with this pandemic, the humor of the impact of our community not having
access to healthcare. This pandemic jumped on us because we already had an epidemic of diabetes, already had an epidemic of high black pressure, already had an epidemic of obesity. So we were like a yummy snack for this virus that wasn't because of the virus, that was because of the racism in the public health care system before the virus got here. So some of the stuff that he's talking about will help black people, but it also will help everybody. A human rights agenda led by black people
always helped everybody. But I thought it was so interesting when you talked about the responsibilities of us as a black community. I just don't think we need to give up. We're kind of giving in to what's what's out there. We're falling into the cess pool that they have for us to fall into. So we just gotta fight harder to to stand up right clean up our communities in any way we can. I just don't want us to throw our hands up and just say, man, this is
just how it is. We gotta be like this because our neighborhoods are like that. There's things we could do to fight the system. There's things we can do to fight the power. That's really what that's all about. Our condition is from the hundreds of years of a system that really funneled us into this condition. So we really have to fight against that every day, and we can't let a day go by where we relax and just give in and say, man, this is just how it is.
We have to come up with measurable means to hold us accountable. Just like we want to hold white America accountable, we have to hold ourselves accountable as well. That's the real thing. There's a certain level of importance that we're not putting on holding ourselves accountable for what we're putting out about ourselves. What are we saying about ourselves. I feel like a huge dilemma for us as black people is that the media in the industry wants to see
us in a certain light. In the music industry, you're taught that, oh, if you're black and you wrap about violence and money, that's gonna make you more money. Labels are going don't want to sign you if you're talking about violence. More so if you're than if you're a conscious partist, Yes exactly. But but how do we break the cycle? Well, you know, it's a complicated role because when we first did our music in w A, we never thought we would be you know, on the radio.
We thought it was just gonna be straight underground music. Sometimes you do something for the art of it, and then a company like viacom and say, hey, this is pop and they'll take it to the top. The positive music sometimes get pushed to the side, and in the launchy hardcore stuff gets promoted, published and pushed out there and marketed and it puts an indprint and other young artists coming up to oh this is the way I must need to do it to get on, and artists
can't be afraid to show something new, you know. Showing something new is usually when you break out. I remember, everybody is doing hardcore gangster nothing could penetrated, and then bam, Kanye come out with college Dropout, you know, which is basically the backpack rappers Bible and you know, so it's really all about having the courage to break the modes and your artists and not letting anybody put you on the box, not even your own community. Hollywood has been
complacent in in our treatment in this country. You know, I think kids learned how to treat us when they're watching shows. You learned, okay, when I become a cop, this is how you do them, and they should look to do things to help us reverse that. We have to put pressure on these companies that we love. You know, we watch their movies, we support them. It's time for them to pay back and help us create better images. If you produce something great and top shelf, people will come.
You know, the same amount of black people went to go see Black Panther as went to go see Straight out of Company. I didn't want to go back as far as boys in the hood. I don't want to date myself. But we need a place where we can get those made so we can give our people at least choice. You said that you want a formal apology to Black Americans. What would that look like? You know, to me, it would come from, you know, the highest officer of the land. You know, the President. Um, we can.
We'll take it from the Senate, We'll take it from the House, Supreme Court, whoever. I feel like, uh, they want to really start making amends with what was done to our ancestors here in this country. That's what we want and we do need to economic and social justice. You know, we're not asked for that. We demanding that. Whether they apologize or not, you know, that's on them. But they got to do right by the people. I agree with with you, but to choose between an apology
and the check, give me the check. However, it's very hard to make progress and so unthinkable that you would do something like that and then not acknowledge it. There's a global precedent for it. There's a historic precedent for it. The Germans, they mean, they acknowledge what they what they did when it came to the Holocaust, and everybody thinks that's appropriate because what was done was so horrific. Germany could not come back into the Community of Nations if
they did not do that. I think another another part of the problem is that white people think that okay, because it wasn't me, it was my ancestors, we don't owe you an apology because I had nothing to do with that. But the issue is not necessarily that it wasn't you. It's the systematic setback that leaves black people way behind in the race. Yeah, it wasn't you, but it happened in your name, it happened on your land, it happened in your territory. Okay, you're not your ancestors.
But if you're keeping their systems in place, that's keeping us in the same position that we was in the in the in the sixties or or before. You're don'na have to acknowledge that you are perpetuating a system and it's the same system that held us back. Not everything that can be faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until at least it's faced. And all ways things just face it, just face up to it. And we can't unbury all these people, we can't unlnch all
these people, we can't unassault all of these women. But we have to be able to face it. And when we face it, everybody's shoulders can come down a quarter and everybody can breathe a little bit more deeply than when some people are living in denial and other of us are living in rage. That's now You're never gonna quite with the same outcome. You said something interesting, then
something just clicked from me. As far as the necessity for an apology, we as a nation can acknowledge what has happened, what has been done to black people in this country, I feel like them, it would help us move on a bit easier, you know what I'm saying. As long as we as a nation stay in a state of denial and said it makes the struggle difficult. I mean, what I need is atonement. I need action
at the end of the day. If the powers that be that running this country don't feel that it's fit to apologize, then the citizens are gonna they're gonna take that as a cute. It has to be done in a ceremonial manner. And I'm with mama, Hey, hey, a tone, Actually do something, you know what I mean? Put your we don't hurt enough lips service. You know that's why
we're here. You know it's time for action. If you're in a family and it's Thanksgiving dinner and two of the children out of the ten were horrifically abused while they were children, and now you all have to sit at this table and act like nothing happened and pretend that everything has always been cool. But then you why is this child acting out? Why is this child unhappy? We must be something wrong with them. If you don't acknowledge the history of that family and what happened, you
can't understand what's going on. Now. Everybody has to pile lie on top of lie on top of lie, when the realities if everybody could just say, you know what happened to that child, you know what was done to that child. Now what are we gonna do as a family about it? Yeah that's the point. Yeah, that's real. I actually love that analogy. Yeah, that's that's a good one. All right, everyone, we have an election coming up in
four weeks. An NFL superstar, sports analysts and mental health advocate Brandon Marshall was here with important information we all need to know doing. Let me tell you something. We are blessed today. That's today at this table four smart black man. I love this. I love it. The pole voting process is just it's intimidating. I thought there was a gap that wasn't being filled and let's teach and people the mechanics of voting. The inspiration for me was
hearing professional athletes be vulnerable. I mean, this group chat with a lot of Hall of Fame football players and a lot of these guys that I never voted before. A lot of these guys said, you know, they don't even know how to register. I am one of those guys, right, Like the first time I voted was in two thousand and eight, and I didn't know when I went to the ballot box that I was going to be voting
on twenty five different races. I had no clue. It was like pop quiz for me that I wasn't prepared for. I was looking at where's Obama's name? And that's it. We gotta be honest with ourselves and we gotta understand what we don't know. And there's a lot of us that's going to be voting for the very first time. There's a lot of us that feel like our vote doesn't count. So who is teaching that that group of people how to approach the ballot box? How do I
register to vote? There's thirteen thousand different voting districts. The deadline to register in Florida is different than the dead line to register in California. Do we know that can we register the day of? But I think that the first time I voted was the hands down most stressful days. I literally almost was in tears because I didn't understand that there's so much here. Who are these people, what
is their main focus? What is their I was lost, and I really agree with you that we need thorough education on how to vote, who is going to be on the ballot, exactly what they stand for, because it's very, very confusing. We got people ready to go vote, but when they get to the ballot box for the very first time there, they don't even know if their idea is valid. Thankfully, people like yourself stepping up, brother, I want to make sure that we let people know might
be intimidated just by us talking about it. You don't have to fill out everyone and the word. I think people get in and they think, oh, I have to answer all these questions. You could go in there literally, but you don't have to. You can literally just one by you guys giving us this opportunity to have this discussion. Now, people are going to hear this because I didn't know that in two thousand and eight, Van like, we don't know this, right, Like we gotta have these conversations. I
didn't know that either. Like to check everything. Google is a powerful tool. Now you can't Google and ask these questions. The first term you want to look up is sample ballot. Oh, I didn't even know that. But make sure the sample ballots comes from somebody that you trust, from somebody, a group, or somebody like this brother here who has their interests at heart. A group may actually have a sample ballot to let you know. You vote whoever you want to
vote for, but this is who we're backing. I come from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where the poorest county in all of Pennsylvania. I don't I don't know anything about politics. I had to google. I had do you SERI right? And I'm still learning right now. It's important to note that it should take a couple of weeks for us to sit down as a family really break down the election and
break down the candidates. It should be a part of our tradition that we sit down as a family and literally go through whether it's different races in our local community and at the federal level. Because there's some of us that don't know. I know, there's some people in my neighborhood. It's like, Yo, that doesn't affect me. You know, my vote doesn't count, My vote doesn't matter. Yeah. I
think he made a great point, Brandon. As far as getting the family together to have the conversation and making that a tradition, I think that is a really, really, really great point. I want to just drive that home. Don't don't be afraid or ashamed to talk to trusted friends and family. Because I've been voting since I was of age. It's been quite some time now, But I am not somebody who is politically inclined and politically aware all the time. And I had no problem talking to
my parents when they were alive. I would talk to my sister, talk to my husband, whichever one I was with at the time, you know, to help me, you know, decide who I was going to vote for. What I would say is simply this, It's so important for you to vote with your people, with your friends, with your your your spouse, your lovering. In other countries, it's a day off, it's a community celebration. Um. It doesn't have to be something you just have to sit off by
yourself and not know anything and feel bad about. I love what Brandon is doing. He saw a void that needed to be filled and jumped on end and he is doing what it takes. When it comes to vote, you know a lot of people are having to vote, vote, vote, but don't know how to. I love what Van is saying about, go with somebody, go with your people, you know, and and y'all help each other. You gotta edge take
yourself on state local stuff. A lot of times in our depressed African American communities, we don't understand all of these intricacies, but they don't want to understand because they don't want us to vote. It's all about voter suppression. If we don't understand, if we don't think it's important, if we don't think our vote, then we're not going to vote. The thing to me about voting is um. But we have to be very honest with our people. You cannot get everything you want by voting, but you
can lose. But but you can lose everything you've got by not voting. Okay, that's the and so okay, so let real with it. Sometimes we're voting defensively and then we say, well I voted, I didn't get what I wanted. That's like saying I did to sit ups. Now I'm not in shape. Well I'm on a second. It takes more. You gotta eat, right, you gotta jog a little bits. It's a whole lot to make a strong community. Voting is a part of it. Yeah, that's that's a real age.
We've never had this much political consciousness. And what happened to Cube happen to so many people. Now you have so many people pulling back the curtain. And I think because of what Cube is doing a lot more than pull back the curtain. That's what I love about this contract because even for me, you know, I'm thinking, I'm I'm up to speed, just to realize you ain't. My phone went out, so I'll miss me and not miss me and not but I was going for me. Okay,
my battery went out, all right, that's all right. Listen, before we go, I just as a black woman, just want to say how it is just so awesome to sit here with three black men who are so intelligent and really taking the time to have a conversation with the community. You know, each of you are doing so much for us, and I just want to thank you, especially during this time. Um, having black male leadership is
so important. It is so important, and I just want to thank you three for just representing the way that you do for us. You know, thank you, I mean thanks for doing this show. You know, it's cool to see you know, three generations of black women discussed topics for the whole world to get a chance to see this interaction um with a family. You know, it's just great. Thanks for having me on. I'll come back anytime. Yeah, I can't wait to have all three of you right
here at the table. Thank you, Thank you. Amazing that I learned a lot. I just want to tell our read table Talk family check out cubes Contract for Black America because I really got a lot out of it. So just please check it out. Are whenever the acting up, you would go you want the Dragon Lane, and I would go, remember that. I remember that. A couple of times the Dragon Lady came out and I said, never again, Yeah you want the Dragon fired. Who you want, Mommy
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