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picked out? That's some cold Willow. Did you ever feel like you needed to defend your parents for any untrue things in the press. Yeah, I felt like that all the time. When someone called child Protective Services, that was the first time I've ever got furious. Plus Jordan's said she would take a lie detector test my friends, and I really want to know if she did. That's the show that I get asked about the most welcome. One of the best parts of doing our t T is

the connection that we feel with you guys. So today is a special RTT. We are turning the tables. We're gonna answer your questions and no topic is off limits. So let's get right to it. Let's do it. Our first question today, Jessica in Seattle. Seeing you at the Red Table with Will's ex wife, Sharie was life changing. Thanks to you, my ex husband and I will be spending Christmas together for the first time in seven years. How long did it take you and Shari to get

to the place you are now? All that makes me teary? I love that. That's good and there was a journey. It's not easy, you know. We went through some really tough times. Very few times in my life. I can recall being checked real hard. I have nothing to say. You did that I did, but you weren't not a line. You picked up the phone and I wasn't really respectful. Trey was at the house. I'm calling to talk to Tray,

but I had to go through you to get to him. Okay, So you basically let me know I don't really appreciate your tone, and I was like, I don't ain't nomatic and you hung up on me. I called back and I happened to say, quote, bitch, you living in the house I picked out. You said, it's my house. Now, that's some I want you to know. Will Smith let me have it. What was his take? His take was, that is trays mother, and that's just not your place. Yeah,

that's a movie. That's like a movie scene. It took years. I mean, it's been twenty some years for us to get to a place where we can see each other. There's no buttons, we see each other. It's all system. I actually thought about that too, because I was like, I wonder how long it actually took me too to get to a place of acceptance and openness. However long it was, I feel like it was probably too long, you know. I wish that it had come sooner. Yeah,

you come from that generation. It's like once you get divorced, that's it. I think you're you pik Holidays, big week, and that's it. You go over there and now I'll go back to us. Yeah, we've only gotten closer, you know. Yeah, it's just so great. I love me so much. And she taught me how to make right yeah, because she cooks so well. She does. And we'll be spending Christmas together this year, you know. But it's difficult to put the children first, put all of that astult mess aside,

and make the children your priority. And I've not had to deal with it because I purposely purposely dated men that did not have children. Right. Well, you knew what you could have, So that's actually smart. I actually more because I'm always like, you knew the guy had or the woman had exactly, So what did you expect that that person was just going to leave their family behind? So anybody that would do that, they're gonna they could

do that to you. Totally. I didn't want to have to deal with a whole lot of baby mama drama and all of that. I just didn't want it. I just didn't want it. The most difficult part was week He told me he was introducing you to Tray and I said, no, I don't think that's a good idea. And he's like, well, it's happening, you know. So Trey comes home. I said, how did you like miss Jada? He said, I really liked her. Mommy, oh my god, thank you for loving my baby. Yeah, that makes me

want to cry. We're all cried. Yeah, how about not cry? It's not easy. The one thing that I will say is that the next generation, the grand babies, will get a better version. Because you guys got the working out version. We didn't have really any examples. We had to figure out and figure out the tools. What it really takes is you having the desire to make it happen. The

three of us really wanted it. Yes, all right, So next question, my best friend is pushing her boyfriend for a really huge Valenhein's date wedding, and I'm just afraid that they don't know each other very well. Jada, I know you and will have been married for twenty years. Any advice America is probably gonna hate me for saying this, but I feel like weddings, the way that weddings are set up right now, the way that that celebration is set up, is such the wrong start to a marriage.

The wedding celebration now is something you should have after you've gone through forty Do you get to like twenty years and even twenty years okay? Or or if not that, here's what I think you should be doing. You, you and your partner, if you survive an amazing race. Yeah, you guys, have three or four days in the jungle the trenches together, you make it to that finished line, and you still want to get married. Now we can

have a ceremony. Now we can have a ceremony, I because that is a let me tell you, that sets up a fantasy that you can that marriage to maintain. I get that that that's a you ain't gonna maintain it well, but hopefully you've been challenges before you get to that day. Not enough that some people want to get married just to have that day. Yeah, And for me, that was one of the reasons why I didn't want a wedding day. I knew from the gate when I was getting into it, I knew that wasn't gonna be

a cake in the walk in the park. I was gonna say cake in the park, park walking apart. I'm gonna be easy, all right. Just because it's not easy doesn't mean that it's not a journey to be worthy journey. It's a worthy journey. It takes a lot of work, though, because it's a lot of ego deaths, it's a lot of unwinding. How you have been conditioned to relate to relating the fight with our relationship partners more than we

fight with anyone else. But here's the thing, and intimate reationships, it does because in intimate relationships you come across your deepest traumas. I mean, they hit right on the button. So there's so much learning to be had there. And that and that's really how I look at my relationship with your father. All I'm saying is that starting your journey that way is a is A is a huge center. Okay,

next question, Willow, I have a question. Do you ever feel like you need to defend your parents when there are rumors and the press about them? Yeah? I felt like that all the time, when they would say things like, oh, they're letting their kids do this, and I would be like, well, would you rather them allow their kids to express themselves and find themselves or just be controlling? And then we just end up doing drugs and being on TMC and being sad, And when people thought that you guys were

getting just so much. I don't understand how people can write this stuff. It's just not true. And I can just be remember being very very upset and telling you that you should sue them, you need to sue them, it's not true, and just carrying it on and you were like, my, it's just not worth it. Oh when someone called ch'all protective services and I remember, oh my god, that was I was like, wow, when did that come out?

That story about child protective I can't even think, Willow, was what were you were you fourteen, I think so. I think it's started with that home bisless thing. We took a picture and Moises had his shirt off. The boys basically lived with us, so they like her brother Columbians like these boys are always in this. There was no sexual intonation in that picture whatsoever. But I find that other celebrities, females who aren't black, who are younger and who do post things that are way more sexual

than that, get away with it. They don't get any backlash. And that was what was That's that to me? Yeah, that's not a lot. That was the first time I've ever got furious because of you. But not only that, it just was one of those blatant moments that you just blatantly difference. There's something about black skin and anything sexual, anything considered you know what I mean, and the fact that what's considered sexual if you have black skin inappropriate

exactly white. I was looking at the lady and the whole time I was thinking, you could be helping so many kids right now, and you're wasting your time with a child who has everything that they need. The woman that was on our case, she was a nice lady, she's good, She actually know my kids were like whatever, that's how they treated it, and Jane and both and there was nothing will and I could do nothing. We were just like, please chill out. And they were like, no,

this is stupid and it's ridiculous. It was like their personal protest. The way they were conducting these interviews was literally like what are you doing here? Yeah? We were gangster, don't these kids. I was like, listen, I need for y'all, need your best your best behavior when I tell you, it was the complete opposite. And I was sitting there like I cannot believe this. I'd be like these kids right here, that's when you get the backlash of giving

your kids their individuality. I was just like, please, y'all chill. I was eating in the interview o'clock in the afternoon because I knew. Because I knew, went a bowl of cereal. And the woman was like because I She was like, no, I just got up. This is like my breakfast, playing games. Okay, playing games. I was like, they already think we're starving you. You're gonna walk in with a bowl of cereals your

first meal. I was like, Lord Jesus would taking little I walked in with with a bowl of cereals, specifically because I knew that they said you were starving me, and so I was like, you know what, I'm gonna walk in with food and I'm gonna eat the entire time. I'm gonna eat throughout the entire interview. But I said,

I said, these kids get it honestly. They get it honestly, because that is definitely something Will and I would have done back at the day if that was the moment that I feel like we really locked up together as a family. It was like a crisis, yeah, because I was like, oh, we're getting a tax. So the kids got to see for the first time why Will and

I have been so protective. Be careful who you talk to, be careful who you hang with, watch yourself because people say things and people, you know, people try to hurt you. And they saw they were like oh oh, and so then I got to see the soldiers in them. So Carly and San Francisco, have you ever had anyone at the Red Table that you click with so much that they became your new friends? After yes, yes, I'd have to say Talula and we started talking after the show

and I got our numbers. We ended up going to get some dinner rumor scouting to me came to your birthday. It was really good and we had some awesome conversations and just to connect with them outside of the table. When the show ended with Demi and her beautiful daughters, we kept talking and here's a little more of the conversation that you haven't seen, where t Lula opens up about being the daughter of Bruce and did me more.

I don't know if you can relate to this, but growing up the way that we did, um, I felt that we weren't allowed to have pain and problems because we had so much and I've struggled with it my entire life. Um, and so I also didn't or other people don't believe that, don't believe. You're like, oh, this is and then they're like, ha, you have it all.

There's no prom and you're like, okay, you don't. Being criticized at a much higher level to and you can't really share about it because it's like I know that she would have killed me. Yeah, Like who do you share this with? The first thing they're gonna go to is, oh, your mom is who You'll never know what we feel like, that's right, you'll never know what it's like to be born into a world where people know about you and comment about you, and that that is pain in it.

We set at the table for a long time. That was one of my favorites. I really got a joy out of seeing you Rumor and Tulula have that camaraderie and have somebody who kind of understands why. That was the first time, yeah, that I had ever talked to I mean, besides my brother's like anyone who has grown up like me in a deep like like really talking

about like what's the problems here exactly? And the first time and then that's a safe space for for all of you expressed that to each other, So that that made meself feel that felt good right to be able

to just talk and feel a level of comfort. There's been so many times where I've had the fear of like, oh, like if I open up in this area, what if this gets out into the media, or what if what if I think this person is like, oh, really feeling me, but then they're recording me on their phone and that's it's real and it's hard because and even for me as an adult, you know, you you want to believe that people want to be your friend because they like you.

I want people to want to be my friend because I'm Adrian, right. I don't want them to want to be my friend, oh because I'm Jada's mom and I'm one red Table And I know there's some of that I and I understand that too. I think finding sincere friends it's hard for everybody, you know, I don't think that that's just specific to you. Need. It's just so hard for people to find genuine friendship. Yeah, it's really difficult,

no matter who you are, no matter who you are. Yeah, okay, next question, So Sam from Detroit, I have a question for Willow. When was it that you realized that your dad was the Fresh Prince of bel Air. That's a good question. Is actually like it was a gradual, like oh, when we go out, like people are looking at us and like people like are really excited. And when was the first time you watched Fresh Prince? How old were you?

Because I remember you going, oh, my goodness, that shows so funny, like last year I watched the whole thing, right and the whole series. Yeah, and I didn't realized because at first I was like, oh, I knew it was funny. And I knew people thought it was amazing, but like when I watched it, the writing, it was so beautiful and so amazing, and because it was funny,

there was a lot of commentary. Yeah, but that's why I remember you going, oh my goodness, mom, the fresh princess genius, and I'm like, oh, you're just figuring that out, just figuring that Yeah, so that was last year, so you had to be eighteens. So next question during the Jordan Woods episode, Jordan's said she would take a lie detector test my friends, and I really want to know if she did. Right, asked me straight up, Okay, did

you sleep with Tristan? Never? Never thought, never consideration never happened. It never would I And that's why I'm willing to be put up to the tests attached me to a lie detective, whatever it is. I need people to know the truth, and more importantly, I need the people involved to know the truth. Got it? Mm hm. That was a deep show. It was It was a deep show. I'm super proud of her. I learned a lot about her. She and I have gotten much closer than I actually

had some healing with her mother and that was great too. Yeah, can we Abby is Abbey? Is that what's happening? That is the problem with filming in your house? That's funny that Abby started gradu We could we could have this conversation because she wasn't here for the show. Yeah, the answer is yes, Jordans did take a lot of detective tests and it was arranged. It was Jordan's request. What

was her request even be here? Yeah, it was her request to be here, and it was her request to take the live detective test, and we had forensic polygraphs with more than twenty five years of experience in criminal and civil investigations. Well you know, well now at the time, it really it wasn't for this show. It was for

her and for people that she loves. Okay, this is a new thing for me and you, as far as being on the camera, usually do it pretty secretive, so I don't even know your last name, to be honest, Woods, okay, Woods, Okay, how did you end up coming here to do the polygraph today? Like? What are you hoping to get out of it? I just want everyone to know that I'm telling the truth, and that's the most important part of

the story to me, is the truth. All we do in the polygraph is we record the hardship on you when you purposely lie. It's very hard on the body when you lie. Telling the truth is very easy. And we do do a lot of tests where I feel

that the other person should be tested as well. This is an important test for you, and it's something that you want, obviously, um, you know, to come in and do, and you're volunteering to do it, and you're putting yourself in front of a lot of people right to do the test, and so that takes a lot of courage to come in and do it. So let me, Um, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna have you turn

the chair this way. Yeah. So the path that you're sitting on is called a motion sensor because there are a certain part of the population that comes in and tries to cheat on the test. Part of the cheating what they do is they'll move around, do secret movements. And so now we have to have someone sit on the motion pad. So if you even move at all, it will show up on the screen. And I'm just gonna wrap this around your waist first, okay, So lean forward just a tiny bit and this will go right here,

just like that. Perfect, and this just takes regular blood pressure. We do not pump it up as much as they do in the hospital. Please remain as still as you can and listen carefully to the questions that I'm going to ask you. So are you ready to do your polygraph? Yes? Are you now in the state of California? Yes? Are you currently sitting down? Yes? Did you have sexual intercourse with Tristan Thompson? No? Alright, this concludes the test. Please

hold stone. So I released the pressure from your own cuff. All right, Well, you are all done with everything. Jordan thought you did a fantastic job and you definitely passed. And I believe you're being truthful on the test. And she passed with flying colors. I'm real proud that she

did that. And the thing that is so important to me, you know, and I don't want to blame it on social media or anything like that, but I do want to say that people pass judgment when they don't have all the information, and people get a little bit of that and you know, and and just run with it.

And what I'm so happy about or proud of Jordan's is that she was able to take something that could have been disastrous, you know, because this could have destroyed her reputation and her career, you know, and she didn't allow that to happen. She came in and she she told the story, because what happens is you get her story,

their story, and then there's the truth. So what we hope is that at some point in time, the truth, all the whole truth, actually comes out for real, because there were a lot of untruths that were put out there, and one of them was about the fact that there wasn't an apology from Jordan's right right right right right from the text messages that I saw that that is not necessarily the case, got it, So don't be ending this out of the show, because that's important, right, I

hear you, yam okay, don't make me have to come to the editing. No, I hear you, you know, And you know, I'm just saying, no, I get it. I get it. That's why we're going to talk about it, you know. And let's be honest. It taught me a lot just watching the whole thing and just understanding there's always more. It's always there's always more to the story. So you gotta be careful how you judge no matter what exactly, no matter what you hear, no matter what's

out there, there's always more. Why are you pointing the pointing the thing? And it's three fingers pointing back at you. And because somebody get Willow, she's probably put Abby upstairs? Willow. It's Abby, Okay, she was she let me tell you. She's just here's my voice and it's like she wants to be where you are. Yeah, well this was good. Guys.

We've had many, many experience on this show, but when you like sit down and talk about each one, it's really nice to remember his life is about healing, Yeah, and learning how to love and accept ourselves more deeply and um, having compassion, just to be better for sure. Thanks our te family for all your questions. We love you, guys. Awesome sauce Hey r t T family. Join our Red Table Talk group on Facebook to become part of the conversation, and be sure to follow the show page to catch

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