Balance and overload. Let's see what we can do here. Alright? Rock and roll. Rebel Traders takes you inside the world of 2 underground master traders who take an entertaining and contrarian look at the markets to cut through the noise of Wall Street and help you navigate the trading minefield. Together, Sean Donahoe and Phil Newton are on a mission to give you the unfair advantage of a rebel trader. And now, here are your hosts, Sean Donahoe and mister Phil Newton. Hey. Hey. Hey, ladies and
gentlemen. We are back in black. Well, actually, I'm in blue. He's in black for a change, which is a a plan, yes, if you're watching us on the media version. We are, you know, we are experimenting with this in color vision. Yeah. Exactly. Back in the black and white days. You know? But, yeah, we are catching up with technology. We are deciding, okay. Let's set up just doing the audio podcast. Let's do a little bit of video. So I'm sat here with my evening. We
actually both delayed the start of the recording of this podcast. I'm like, go put the kettle on just to show just how Britain it's your evening and my mornings. So this is the start of my day. This is kind of like your winding down. Winding down. Absolutely. Lutely. So I wanna dive right in of Scottish cocoa, isn't it? Yeah.
Basically. Yeah. Just a little tart of whiskey, and I'm good to go. So, yeah, we've been doing this series about 12 different, yeah, the 12 rules of Rebel Trading where we've kind of been doing this kind of, series version of our podcast. And today, we wanna talk about bala the balancing awareness and overload. And it's a little bit of a tightrope sometimes. I
mean, you know, funnily enough today, we got Fed announcements. The markets this week have been on, well, let's just say they've been hesitant. They haven't really made any definitive, moves one way or the other. You know, start the day where we've been looking at has, for the last 3 days of trading, been very bloody hesitant. And it's interesting to see how the the usually, with the speed of information, we got kind of a lot
of stuff baked in with expectations. But I don't think the the Fed has been very communicative, on this one, and everyone's waiting with bated breath to see, alright. They're gonna fuck us, or they're gonna fuck us the other way, you know, or something like that. You know, how is it gonna swing? Again, I don't mean that in the metaphor. They're never gonna fuck us. It's just whether it's with lube or without lube.
Basically. So, I mean, you know, for traders, especially those involved in short terms, trading, staying updated is kinda crucial. It's it's very important. You kinda gotta have I mean, we don't like listening to the news. We don't have that as part of our trading. I certainly used to. I used to have my ear to the ground a lot more intently than everything else. But having a general awareness doesn't necessarily mean getting bogged down in micro events and, you know,
tedious reports and all the rest of that. So a lot of what we're gonna say is how you keep 1 foot in, 1 foot out. Okay? How do you keep your ear open without having your ear to the ground waiting for every ant fart that may go by on as you're doing it? So where do you wanna start with this one film? Because there's so many different ways we can take this. And I know we're gonna go down Alice's rabbit hole here a little bit. But, actually, this Making my eyebrows all
good. Yeah. So okay. So we're doing some stuff. Perhaps a good place to start. What do we do? No one get into what could you do? I might be a good place to start. I'm not interested in reading company reports. I don't want to sift through the minutiae and try and figure out the inflections and the suggestions that are written between the lines. That's for other people. I made that decision a long time ago and I'm okay with it. So it doesn't interest me. But like
you mentioned before, it does interest you on a personal level. So if you're interested on a personal note, I'm not saying don't do it. You can do it, But is it relevant to trading? It's not relevant, and I'm not interested. So I don't do it. What I am needing to know is I when are the events? So we often talk about red flag news with our communities. And you know, just know when the important potential market moves in today's a an f ymc day, that day.
So we just need to know when that is so that we don't accidentally place a trade that we could be on the wrong side of. So, you know, if we have an opportunity that sets up, so we're trading 24 hour futures, and there's a trade that sets up, you know, 10 minutes before such an announcement occurs, then I don't want to step in front of that bus. Most of the time with the regular market hours, those red flag news are
going to be outs anyway. So they're not going to impact the stock trade, for example, but you will need to know when earnings events are on most brokerage or put a little notice of how you've got earnings on this before you actually place a trade. They're pretty smart these days now compared to what we had to do where we had to go and kind of flip through an almanac. And, you know, find when these events were or potentially were so it's just a simple, really like, am
I placing a trade ahead of the news or go to instant news? If I am, am I okay with that? And if I am, then I'm frustrated. And if I'm not, if I'm not worried about it, then I can just delay the trade for a day. And that is really how I approach this. But as we've already suggested, if it does interest you, which is the side of things that churn leans on, then you can go deeper, but you've got to recognize it's at a personal level. And it shouldn't be
used for trading if it's not a part of your trading routine. Yeah. I'd agree with that. I mean, I certainly used to be that way. Used to be. I'm not anymore. I keep a broad awareness of key things going on. Broad strokes I've heard, Sean. Yeah. There you go. So I've swung you over to the dark side. Absolutely. Lutely. No. I I like the peace and quiet. I mean, I I used to be in the thick of it in, obviously, America and then bombarding you 247. We used
to have news channels on all the time. And, meh, not doing that certainly was a lot less stressful, because when you even if you're aware of the constant bombardment and, yeah, and the noise, it really does have a influence on your stress levels. For example, I'm I'm using one of these little aura ring. And I I watch the news, and even though I don't think I'm being affected, I can actually track the stress levels going up. But pressure is a really weird thing. And I'm just like, oh, fuck. Okay.
I guess it is. And it's because of annoyance at the stuff. Because, again, a lot of the mainstream news, I'm not gonna get in tinfoil hat and talk about, you know, all the different conspiracy theories. Simple little things like like, I I still cast the headline, Sean, but it's you're right. It's simple little things. Like, Bitcoin crashes was the headline that I saw this week. And in context, it or it's a a a slightly deeper retracements in the context of an
uptrend. But, yeah, talking about Bitcoin. I was looking at and if you look at the percentage movements, a 2% for Bitcoin, that's pretty normal for Bitcoin, up or down. That's a normal range of movements. It's not crashing at all in contexts. And that's the thing that grounds my accent. It's like, you'll see, I know what was Nvidia, you know, is obviously an explosive movement. Now that's an extreme movements that we've seen for this year, because you've got this frothy,
AI markets, situation going on. So if you have that on the flip side, the reverse side, then, yeah, the market's crashing or the market's, you know, going to the moon without you or whatever. Well, in context is what we want to look at. And that's the type of headline that one of us Bitcoin crashes, and it puts a 1 minute chart on you've got this giant red bar, from the top of the chart of the culture, bring context to even just the the the rest of the
day or or the last, you know, 4 to 6 weeks. That's what we wanna look at. Everything needs to be in context. Absolutely. Absolutely. So having an awareness of things like global market trends, key news events, sector specific news, if you're involved in, like, you know, we're mentioning, NVIDIA there, AMD, Marvel. Great example. I've got a Lulu trade on, Sean with the intention of trading through earnings. So knowing when that was,
this is more of an earnings trade, very short term. We did send them with Nvidia and we're looking for explosive pop, and just a few dollars higher, and then we should get that in the back of the net, hopefully. So knowing when these events are might just provide a trade opportunity with certain strategies so that this is what the intention of training the news with this particular stock.
Put yourself out there, Sean, will it, or won't it tune in next time, next week for the most exciting adventure of will Lulu go all the way down? Well, you know, like most gurus out there, we can say, well, we believe it will go up, and down or sideways, and one way we will be right. I can neither confirm or deny that it will move in a particular direction. Yeah. Nothing grounds our
exports now as well. So but keeping up with industry events, sector specific news, global market trends, for example, there's been a lot of talk about the, you know, fed meeting this week and everything else. And it's funny because we've got a a big batch of new students into our rebel income system. And, you know, I they're watching the news like hawks, and there's you know, on the chart, he'll post the news. He'll say, you know, it's, you know, opening
higher or the thrust and it's going the opposite direction. So be aware that oftentimes the news is the last to know anything. They're reporting what has happened rather than what is or is going to happen because no one knows what's going to happen in this. So, again, don't let it overwhelm you and create a bias. Again, everything in context. It's funny because you're talking about, you know, how how this can raise awareness of opportunities. We're talking about global
market trends. I'm in Asia. Okay? I'm in Thailand. And what happens here, if I'm keeping you kind of just an 8 to ground, what's happening in Asia markets, can have a ripple into Europe, can have a ripple into America. Now when I used to be based in Texas, first thing I do in the morning is go look at what's the global, what's happening in the east. And as I'm waking up and and the rest of America's waking up, getting ready for the market open in the US because we trade primarily US equities.
I can use that as a it it basically, can I hear the war drums in the distance, and are they getting any bloody closer? So it it can be an interesting little thing, but getting bogged down week, there was lots of headlines with the the Japanese side of the market in Asia, which probably you heard, like, rumblings of Yeah. The the wind industry. Just about to go into a recession. They've avoided a recession. But then we put it in context. Negative news in a strong trend is usually a dip buying
opportunity. And lo and behold, this time next week, not something we trade, but it's just perfect example of, perfect example of a dip buying opportunity. You know, even if you have negative news, in context, that can provide the opportunity that you're waiting for. You know, it gives you that discounted price, the dip, in the context of a trends
to to hop on board. So it actually, like, everyone was, you know, crying over, just swipe Sean's phrase, crying over the windows, because of, you know, the the the Japanese headlines, the Nikkei markets, you know, is that gonna is that a precursor to the US markets, you know, blah blah blah. And the reality is, is no, if you look at the price behavior, what what's the money flow doing? That's the footprint that we're looking at? What are they doing? Well, they're
looking at as a debt buying opportunity. And it sprung straight off the 20 paid moving average, which is one of our triggers that we look for. And it's straight back up to retest the highest. Thank you very much. Absolutely. And it's funny because you just mentioned something there that, is, and, you know, that thought just went right out my head. I added something really intelligent and and specific to say, and then gone. Alright. I'll come back to it if it pops back in my head. It
was right there. I was about to say it, and then it popped off. I think, you know, I'm starting to go see now. But, not good for a trader, but there you go. Anyway, so how do we balance information intake? I mean, we're looking at, you know, recognizing that not all news is trade worthy. That's one, I think, very, very cool thing, to to tap on to that, Sean. If you're brand new, turn it off because you don't know yet. I remember what I was gonna say is
okay. So I said the news is gonna be the last to know. Oh, you still have my line on you. Yeah. The best the best news you get is on the chart because that's telling you what's happening in real time. The sentiment with the money flow and the money moving, that's really the new that's my favorite news channel is that tells me the story There we go. In context with facts, not opinion. It's what is actually happening. It's the Walter Cronk guy who's here. So there you go. Reminds me of the the
Jim Cramer in the indicator. I was listening to something about that's the other week as well. Jim Kramer, you know, famous for his, market calls. And most people, there's actually to the point where there's an ETF, an exchange traded fund that fades or trades the opposite way to to whatever Jim Cram is talking about. So if he's, so if you actually look at his last comments on Bitcoin, the Bitcoin, it's going to 0, blah
blah, whatever he was talking about. He was really heavily negative on it and bashing it. 3 days later, that was the start of the the the glorious ballroom that you've just seen on it. So there's people that fade his comments. You know, he's famous for getting it wrong, publicly, getting it wrong. And I think that's the difference. It's I think they're also my god. I'm I thought you were winding me
up. It's actually it's literally good to be true. It's looking at it's coming from s j I m. I'm having to pull this shit up right now. This is fucking hilarious. Oh my god. So that you can trade the, the ETFs that fades or trades the opposite. So whatever Jim Cramer is heavily, talking on, it's either bullish or bearish, and you can go the opposite. And it's a it's a legitimate oops. It's a legitimate strategy. Who would have thought? Holy shit. Holy shit. I have not seen So this would be
good, good example of using the news negatively. So I think the point seems kind of coming around to which is what I thought you were going to mention, Sean, and you didn't say the news is a representation of the general public. And the general public is the highest to know everything. Why would you wanna follow what the general public's doing? And it it followed the the the footprints, the money, you know, and that is a representation of what price is doing if price is in a very
strong uptrend for the last 12 months. Well, you know, what, probably for the next 2 or 3 weeks, that's going to continue. You know, and that's what really what we're interested in is the next 2 to 3 weeks for swing trading, we just want to know the next 2, 3 hours, you know, probably by the
end of the day for our latest income strategy. You know, we don't necessarily need Well, I suppose that's a good bridge into the next points is the time horizon that we trade, It's not important at all, what the macro stuff is doing the news, the actual, the things that can drive the fundamental analysis, it's not important for our style of
trading at all. And arguably, if you're not having a time horizon, that is a 2 to 3 years long, then you're more like Warren Buffett investor type style of trading they don't need to look at it at all. And then that comes back to our earlier comments was, if you have a general personal interest in doing it, look at it, but just be able to separate that it's for fun and for
entertainment purposes, which is why I used to do it. And if you can't separate those two things, and it's interfering with your trading choices, which I think for most new people, it will interfere with your trade choices. Turn it off until you've got that consistency that you want. And then you can turn it back on for your entertainment. I agree with that. I mean, it's hype and opinion and attention. That's the commodity that a lot of these
are trading. When that starts really affecting your ability to trade, your decision analysis, paralysis, and all the rest of it, that can become a big problem. And one thing I like to do is is just cut through the noise and the bullshit. Just get the the headlines. If you if you want an awareness, see if there's anything digging in. But, again, do it with the the bullshit filter and then put it in context. But, yeah, for the most part, I'll turn it
off. If if if there's something worth listening to, I'll probably hear about it in social media somewhere because everyone's gonna be talking about it. That one might raise its head up enough, to be interested. Like, for example, Jake Paul, Mike Tyson. Everyone was talking about that. That's gonna be an exclusive Netflix deal. Guess what? I went in and looked at 60? 63? He's, gonna be 58 at the time of boxing. When I get to the I'm sorry. I thought I thought he was a little
bit older than that athlete. No. I saw a cliff in. He's still got it. I would not go up. I they could pay me 20,000,000? I would I I would be like Charlie Chaplin in the corner. If you remember that old skit where he's dancing around the referee, that that would be me for 20,000,000. And then I'll I would take 5 in the first I don't 10 seconds. I don't want to be in the same room as him whatsoever. He's the guy that, does is the, what's his name? Does the podcast is going to be on
Rogan. He was talking about when he was interviewed, he interviewed him before, when he, when he he decided not to fight. And he's like dead quiet and and not, you know, he's very quietly spoken anyways, isn't he Mike Tyson? You know, but he was let it go. And, you know, he's also a little bit fudgy compared to where he was. Until he starts working out here. He came back to him when he went on the show. And he's like, made a decision. And he was like, he was it was his highs. I
just saw it in his eyes. And it was this interview that he and he was scared of being in the room with him. He's in the room with him for 3 hours talking to him. And he's like a bulldog chewing a wasp. And it was that decision that said, I made the decision to buy a wider desk because of that interview. He yeah. He said that, he said, you know, it reignited his ego, the gods of war inside him. Yeah. That's the phrase, though. I couldn't quite remember. And it
was the look in his eyes. He goes, fuck. He's back. It was a spire. You know? And I think that's what that's what you need to operate and perform at that level in that arena. And I suppose I get it, it sounds like we're talking chat chimes, but it's, it's what's relevant. You know, he's probably turned everything off to focus and dedicate a 100 percent to becoming an essentially an animal again in the ring. Well, my point for saying that though was because that was a news thing that everyone was
talking about, I then went to look at Netflix. It read there was a news event like that that raised my awareness to go look at Netflix and see if that was impacting, any new trend or any potential trading opportunity because it it's exclusive of that and everyone's talking about that, is that gonna then have a knock on effect? So you can hear news stories or something that's viral or something that's really blowing up and then say, okay.
Is there a trading opportunity in that? So one of the things we talk about is nonconventional approaches. And, you know, that taps into the first one, which is social media monitoring using, you know, platforms like Twitter stroke x or whatever it's gonna be called next week. You know, the real time news, you know, for, you know, sentiment, what's what maybe is being talked about, like, you know, this Tyson thing on Facebook or whatever else is going on
is yeah. You can tap into these and see what's what is making waves, what's making storms. For example, we're in election year right now, and, yeah, we've just gone through all things like, state of the union, Super Tuesday, and all the rest of it. And then you've got all the rumblings about Trump and Biden who are looking like they're gonna be going ahead to head towards the end of the year and the add to that to that to that. And all the I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm not getting into
all the divisiveness. If not, I'm not going one way or the other. Don't care. They're all monkeys at the end of the day. You know, just it's a big fucking clown show. But when you start hearing and seeing, okay, where's the opportunities? Is there any opportunities for these things? Then, yeah, that can be interesting. Another one we talked about is I mean, you know, Phil, you were just talking about Joe Rogan, but that that kinda taps into another source of nonconventional
approaches. Well, I was just looking at sorry. I I was completely, not paying any attention to. I was just looking at my other monitor. Hey, squirrels out the window. Okay. I was just sitting on to a little shooting there and had no, I was just looking at, I was actually gonna follow on with your election year, because if you are interested in these things, then chase and I'll stand the rabbit hole as we'd like to call it is you can go, well, election is an
opportunity in an election year. And then there's there's tools that will allow you to assess seasonality. Again, cheap, cheap access is a book called the Stock Traders Almanac. And there's various iterations of commodities and stuff like that. And you can go to that. I think it's about $30, isn't it? But basically it's a book of research and they'll update it every year. And there's online versions if you want to go that. There's plenty of other tools out there that does
similar things as well. And, you know, is there an are there opportunities in an election year? And you can see the seasonality data, that you have. So basically from May onwards in, a per the stock market performance since 1932 is heavily bullish for the following years. And normally, it's selling may go. It's usually a flat summer, but in an election year, there is a possible trending opportunity, historically speaking on average in
an election year. So maybe there's an opportunity for, depending on your style of choice. Now that doesn't mean there's an automatic opportunity. I still want to see my setups there. I'm not going to place an automatic trade, but it highlights, maybe there's an opportunity instead of scaling down the sheet, maybe I can kind of divert some attention to trending opportunities on the run up to the election. And, you know, there there's certainly a historical precedence for those
opportunities. Absa bloody lutely. So, I mean, we're talking also, you know, with different nonconventional approaches, podcasts and webinars, going looking about what's being talked about, events that are coming up. For example, in crypto world, we've got the halving event coming up for, Bitcoin, in April. And, usually, that's a significant run up, which we've already seen with, crypto up to this point. Then we have the halving event, and then it usually precedes
another run as well. So we're seeing a lot of cash being taken out right now. But this event coming up, you'll see more and more talking people talking about these type of events, and then there's all sorts of training or or, you know, analysis on them, different seminars, webinars. It's great to get
some inside information, see what's going on, what other people are talking about. And by the way, half of the webinars, you gotta take with a grain of salt and and, you know, it's it's what's the reality, what's you know, take the facts from the fiction or the, you know, bring a bucket of salt or a truckload or whatever you need to. Traders, I think if you're gonna go down that that route, just kind of little pro tip of webinars, there's plenty of kind of YouTube lives that would serve as
webinars. But if you can do a little bit of research and find people who their motivation is, they've got a hedge fund, for example. So they're just providing information to in to informs investors because that's probably what they're using the information for, but it also helps the general public make an informed decision on what the market's doing. So they're trying to say, hey, here's how we analyze the markets, blah, blah,
blah, blah, kind of like what we do. You know, we will call out live trades as we see them and whenever the opportunities, but again, those hedge fund guys, they've got a different motivation. They're not trying to do anything nefarious is what I'm trying to get to. So they're just different motivations. And sometimes that you can get like, again, think of it like
peers. You know, we're going to talk about peers again in the future where, you know, you can hang around with people like us on a podcast. Markets and finding new new information. It's a little bit of a prototype finds the hedge fund people that putting out information, because their motivation is they're trying to find investors, rather than anything nefarious and weird. Absolutely. Lutely. You've also got sitting on a Lambo, turn them off,
you know, look at me in front of my jets. That's usually the, the, the, the warning bell looking at money. Look, look at what, look at my Lambo, bro. Yes. Good in the corner, humping a bag of 100. You know, there's a problem. There's a mental people that if you've been in this industry, but any length of time, you will know that people do that. Absolutely. Lutely. I wish I think as well, I'm just kind of tapping into what you were saying, Sean, about podcasts, because I'm usually a podcast,
avid podcasters. And I don't just listen to trading stuff. I listen to a variety of things. But certainly in the business world of the podcast that I'm listening to, a I was being exploding for about 18 months. And this was kind of before it hit the
stock markets. So if you had your ear to the ground, which we do, then you'll see that there's actually that there's a lot of froth and frenzy around AI and it has been around for many, many years prior, but just not with the same excitements as we saw in the last 18 months or so. And so just, you know, if you're aware of this, chase outstand the robot is an opportunity. It wasn't immediately presence. But then there were certain leaders in the
the market, the invidious, the AMDs, the microchip sector. And that same thing happens with the crypto explosion. The same the same companies effectively, had the piggyback ride from the crypto excitement several years ago, when it became generally popular as opposed to just niche popular. So you know, maybe there's opportunities that you can find that are temporary opportunity, again, these season seasonal things that we were just
talking about. So it can be important, I think it's fair to say it can be important, but just, you know, on a day to day basis, it's usually not important. I like the newsletters, the podcast, I get a summary at the end of the week, and I'll catch up because I don't need to know on the day what happened. I just need to know, hey. Is there anything happened, you know, recently that may be of interest to me? I'm just reading the headlines most of the time. Absolutly.
And you can also set up automatic alerts for key news events. There's economic calendars out there. So I know that's on YouTube, isn't it, Sean? Yeah. There's a few different few different things you can do. You know, one thing I like to do is set up alerts for different market conditions. Is there a big x happening? You know? Is there a crossover here? Is there a this? There is that? You know? So it's not just on what's happening over here, you know, in in in Max Headroom world, dating myself
there by referring to Max Headroom. Although, I've almost got the completely bloody, beautiful person. Let me I could I could actually full coach, haven't you? Oh, I could I could put myself baby. Neon. Yeah. Exactly. And give me the lollipop. It's because I could just put a big neon cardboard box on my head and come on here and just do the new Max Headroom, the modern version on a budget. But,
yeah, I mean, the the thing is you can set up automatic alerts. You can do all the It is younger younger cousin, modest shelf rooms. Yeah. Pretty much modest. Don't think there's anything modest about me. No. But with that being said, I think we should kinda wrap this up a little bit. Look. There's a lot of information, and the speed of information these days is extreme. You can drink from a fire hose, but where is your capacity for noise and filtering or just becoming a sponge? At the end of
the day, is it helping your training? Is it not? It's a balance. Striking a balance between awareness and overload is critical because does it really help you with your style and training? If you're like a lot of our students right now, who are moving to more of a, daily process, then, yeah, red flag news can have a big effect if it's coming up or it can, you know, accelerate a particular move. If you're in a longer term trends and everything
else, then is it really gonna make a difference in the long run? You've gotta decide where between your flavor of ice cream trading, versus did you want that extra sprinkle when you weren't expecting it? That's exactly it. So any last words from you there? No. I think there's a broad spectrum of what you can do. As with all things, finding what works for you is often the difficult challenge. If you're at the new rounds of spectrum, certainly turn the news off because it's gonna interfere
with the decision making process. If you must get some information about the news and the markets, I would say don't get it from the mainstream media. I would actually pay for a data feeds. That is just the facts, a Thompson Reuters, you know, style of thing. I appreciate I don't know. It's the price point. Those are those are exactly But I'm just trying to I'm just trying to give an illustration, Sean. You know, it's just the facts without the sensationalism. Because if you think about it, the
mainstream media, their business model is attention. If it bleeds, it leads at Thompson roots roots as model is a client first, you know, you're paying for the privilege of just the facts. So they're just presenting the, the, the, the boring information. It's up to you to intercept then. So I'm just trying to give those 2 ends of the spectrum. So you wanna be, you if you must you want to be leaning towards the Thompson roots aside, you just the information. And you know, that that is the right
balance, probably for whatever you're doing. Again, if it's not important to your training, again, just turn it off, you know, you're going to be much better inside, as Sean was saying, you know, his blood pressure goes right down. When he's not watching it. I discovered that for the same reason I don't wear a watch. And you know, there's lots of things that I do just in life generally. So find your balance, chi if you like. And, usually, if you're not sure of the answers, turn it
off. Absa bloody lovely. Love it. Alright. With that being said, rock it up right there. Thank you for your time and attention. Treat the fuck on. And as always, Phil. To Lou, Trader, see you at the same time next time next week. Oh, it's actually a holiday, isn't it, next week? Easter, we get long weekends, so we've got a shortened trading week next week, but we will see you at the same time next time, next week. Absolutely. Will we?
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