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This episode is all about music.
And America's fastest growing sport, pickleball. Pickleball team owner and a man considered to be one of the best guitarists in the world. Joe Bonamasa explains why he got into the pickleball mania, why pickleball has a huge problem, why there are so many haters, and why Jason will likely never play the guitar. So let the games begin. Here are Jason, Alexander and Peter Tilden really, oh.
Peter, Welcome everybody.
This is a this is a this is an exciting thing because this is this We're gonna talk about a thing today that I'm actually involved with.
I do it.
I do it, and most people wouldn't believe that I would do.
It, but I do it.
Everyone's going, what the hell are they talking about?
I'll give you a clue, ready, an annoying stun It's.
Pick a ball, pickle ball, which I used to say, not a sport, not a sport, not a sport. Then I played it and I actually I'm I'm really loving it.
I like it and got a problem. It's got a problem. Are really no really, because it's become everywhere.
People are playing pick a ball everywhere, And the New York Times had a headline recently that is it's causing shattered nerves and sleepless nights. Pickle ball noise is driving everyone everywhere brazy, absolutely insane, and it's grown over almost forty percent in the last two years. And it's it's noise pollution, and it's causing freight nerves and unighborly clashes everywhere, calls to the police, lawsuits because it's this pop pop
pop pop pop coming from the pickle ball courts. The tennis players are fighting with It's like the Jets and the Sharks. Tennis players players are having rumbles out on the court and they say that even from one hundred feet away, the sound of that ball is like seventy decibels.
That's allowed.
That's like, that's like vacuum cleaner under your bed kind of noise. There isn't actually an organization. The sounds were dissected last month at the Noise.
Con We got to have these people that there's a.
Noise con the Annual Conference of North American Noise Control Professionals.
They're opening night session featured.
Keep it down in There, Keep it down there.
People are actually Google mapping new houses to make sure that they're nowhere near a pickleball court because they know that it's going to be a thing, and so we wanted to. I just wanted to have someone who really is an officionado on the game, who really knows.
What's going on, and get the inside scoop. And you found us one of the one of your bottoms, one of the best, one of the best guitars, living guitars, but possibly the best according to Brad Paisley. Yeah, is a team owner. We know why, probably, but find out from him because this guy knows pickleball. This guys pickleball. But also it looks like a smart investment because you can put four pickleball courts. But it's it's going professional, the purses are bigger, it's getting a lot of attention.
I haven't watched one on TV yet. I can't imagine that's I have seen part of it on TV. It's not my thing. I kind of like we watched but Joe Bonamas if you don't know him, the pre eminent blues guitars. I've watched so much of your playing and as I said, Brad Paisley called you the number one guitars in the world. So welcome to the show and you're a team OWNERI.
So uh, thanks you, Joe. Why do they call it pickleball? How did they get the name pickleball?
Apparently pickleball got its name from a dog.
Yeah, well, I've heard that there are several There are several theories about dog named Pickles. A dog named Pickles, I've heard that that was one theory. Pickleball was created in Washington for people that don't know A bunch of friends playing a game in nineteen sixty five on a bad minton court. A guy named Prichard. His wife witnessed. Her husband and his friends and the kids were sitting it up, and she she said the game reminded her
of a pickle boats used in rowing or crew. And so that's one theory about how it how it got its name, Peter, and.
Then I think another one was that you're in a pickle if you missed. Well, there's the dog story. As Joe was saying, there's the dog story.
And then there was yet another one that it's the inn a pickle story. A guy surrounding a guy named Bill Bell, and they mentioned that that Bell hit the ball with such precision that his opponents felt like they were in a tough spot.
A ka in our tickle. All right, So now you got there, there you go, Joe, Yeah.
The truth somewhere in the mist or nowhere near. I got brought into this world. Honestly. I brought into this this world by my friend Steve Bellaman, who founded the Tennis Channel, and I became fast friends with him because we're both guitar collectors. And he was explained to me about this, this this phenomenon called pickaball. I just thought it had kind of a weird name, and he goes,
it's it's it's rapidly exploding across the country. And about a year ago, maybe a little little more, that they were franchising the sport and they were they were they were doing a league and there was an opportunity to invest in the Chicago Slice and he was like, I'm going to put put together a team and if you want in, and I said, you know, I'm just gonna do it like this. I'm like, I don't know you know about pickleball and and the the economics of it.
But what I I I do know that people respond to enthusiasm, and the people who are into pickleball really really really love pickleball. And what I've what I've come to find out by having conversations with other pickleball people, is that it makes the sport of tennis, which to some people is kind of unobtainable at a certain age,
more obtainable. Sure, you know, because it's smaller, but you're still getting the cardio, you're still getting the workouts, and you know, you start doing a deep dive and all this. And you know, our team is owned by some pretty insane people, you know, Chris Everett being one of them, Heidi Blue, Ron Saslau. I mean, like you know, Doug Allen, and you know, I just kind of got involved because I thought that it was going to be something that
that could really really scale. Now the noise ordered is part of the you know, I kind of chuckle when when when people it's too noisy and stuff like, I've been told to turn down my entire life. This is a per business for me. You know, turn the guitar down the paddles now.
Yeah. And by the way, speaking of passion for collecting, I should mention I don't know if this is the number, because it probably goes up because you're insane with collecting. Is it five hundred amps and five hundred guitars in your house? Because I visualize a room with ten guitars in it you can hardly walk.
The thing is the I have three places and came up to Ford and I I'm not married, and you can see crazy signs and guitars on the walls. They're more like branded theme parks than than you know. People come to my house in Laurel Canyon, they go, clearly, you're not married, Clearly you're a horrid or but you're organized, so it's it's well displayed. But they're they're about eleven hundred guitars and amps, you know. But I've been doing this for thirty five years.
But eleven hundred is there's that's that's there's an illness there. You realize that there's an illness. You don't need eleven hundred of any of them.
Oh yeah, I can only play one at a time exactly well, And there you go so, yeah so, And you know, when you drop dead, if you're not married and kids, where's it going?
I I my niece and nephew are gonna.
Be okay, quite are think boy? I would be calling every day to see how he's doing.
Yeah, exactly, I don't. I I actually put it in my will that my niece and neph whatever they want with it, they sell to keep it. But but if somebody comes in and gets too good a deal, I will haunt them from beyond the grave. I'll keep it from beyond the grave and I'll just come in and poltergeist their house.
That's unbelievable. You're very good. Are you building up to asking for one of them? Is that I would never I don't. I don't. I don't ask. I don't ask. You must have out of eleven hundred guitars, Oh yeah, you must have. I know you have like the sixty four and a fifty three and the thing that's a favorite. What's your favorite? And what's it? Is it worth a fortune?
They are worth of Some of them are worth a fortune there. Some are worth is you know houses and you know they're you know, as a collector, you start getting into the verticals, which is crazy, you know. I mean when I when I see Jerry Seinfeld's show with the cars, you know, he's he's got that, he's got that look with the Porsche, right, and it's it's like, what's your favorite Porsche or what's your favorite guitar? It's the one I got today, and and what's your favorite
one tomorrow? I was the one I'm going to buy. You know, one of the things about collecting is either you get it or you don't, you know, because it's like it's like, well, why why do you If you you have to ask the question why you don't get it, it's just you're You're You're one of them. You know, you're one of us. Be like why not?
So, Joe, do you play pickleball yourself?
Are you a player as well as an owner?
Yeah?
I have not played the game. I'm not very athletic. First, I'm very awkward athletically. And I was like, this isn't for me.
But you you as a kid, people may not know this. You were a prodigy. You opened for Bbking when you were what like twelve, If you were on TV an eight or five or four or three or is an embryo playing guitar.
I was a show bized kid before the like before Instagram and and social media. Yeah, like I was. I was playing gigs in upstate New York, and I was, you know, getting a bit of an because every time you would come to a town, the local newspaper would say, hey, you know, there's an eleven year old kid playing blues guitar. So we would draw a decent crowd just out of
curiosity seekers. And we were building our name slowly, and once it kind of got out nationally that there was this like pudgy white kid from Beuticat playing blues, we
would get we were getting calls. Next thing, you know, I'm in Los Angeles nineteen eighty nine and I'm on you remember the show on ABC was called Into the Night with Rick D's Yes, yes, yes, remember it was maybe like three or four years he was on, And you know, I was part of a skit on there where they were they were randomly, you know, all of a sudden, one of the house band, which was Billy Vera and the Beaters, the guitar player didn't show up and they said, oh my god, we're so desperate for
a guitar player the show can't go on? Who played guitar? And of course eleven year old Joe Bonamas and I happen to get picked, and I go up there and I, you know, play and the audience was crazy, and you know, next thing in all, I'm on The Mickey Mouse Club and wow, you know, and then ABC television, National television, NBC television, and it was just a wild thing for a middle class family in upstate New York to go through.
That is amazing.
So, Joe, you know, there are two there are two governing pickleball organizations. There's the International Federation of pick A Ball the IFB, and there's the World Pickleball Federation the WPF.
And apparently they're feuding.
And I just wanted to pick your brain a little bit about the nature of that feud. And do you come down on one side of the the argument or the other?
I don't know what they're feuding about.
Don't you go to the owners meetings?
No, I get on the owner's emails. I'm a minority. Okay. The guy who owns the Cubs actually has the final set, you know, he put he cut the biggest check, you.
Know, so you don't know why they're feuding. I don't know, to affect your money then.
And well, you can speak anytime. Here's the thing, anytime something scales and there's money involved, there's going to be.
A few sure.
And and the thing is, it's like the sport has had a critical you know period where where you know, it's starting to become I'm like, I looking at videos today. You know, ESPN's covering it, you know, online, but it's you know, it's not exactly Sports Center front page, but it's like it's on everybody's radar and.
Yet to do an episode.
But Joe, you know what I want to remind you the advice you got for BB King was keep doing what you're doing, don't change for anyone, and watch your money, watch your money, watch your money.
So it's good for anybody, the pizza business or.
You're any other questions.
Yeah, apparently there's a push to make it an Olympic sport, Uh, John, any thoughts about that or why why it wouldn't qualify at this point for the Olympics.
I don't I don't see why it wouldn't qualify it. It's a legitimate sport, you know.
Is it?
Though? I guess is that's the question.
It's probably not.
If you don't, you don't have to throw the hardcore figures out. But isn't an expensive thing to become an owner of a pick a ball team?
Well, early on it wasn't, you know, when they were putting the leaves together, because we are consortium of owners, so there's there's a there's a tier percentage, right, you know, and then then there was an opportunity for people like me to get involved that at a lower percentage, at obviously a low lower cost. But it's it's at first it wasn't. It wasn't prohibited the expensive, right, it was just it was just something that's like is it a league work? You know, because to your point it's like
should it be Olympic sport? Well, I would imagine most people play pickleball at this point for exercise, yeah, something to do after work. And and then there's the people that play competitively and they're starting to become some real money in it, like like like endorsements and paddles, and you know, it's going to be like anything else, there's going to be you know, a Rosco Bellamy signature paddles down the line. There's gonna just like there is a Chris Everett you know signature.
And when you say you have it, like you have the Chicago Slice.
So at most four people play at a time on a game. So how many people are on a team.
I don't know how many people.
But you're an owner, shouldn't you?
I know, but I don't let the manager.
Okay, So Joe, you also read again when I do research. You were your Baroni's and you found a guitar. You had to buy what they have in.
The valley, and I found I found a holy grailed guitar. Luthier named David Neely who's on Sunset Bulevard took in this guitar and it was painted red and I was looking at it, and I go, this looks like a fifty nine sun vers Les Paul to me, but disguised to somebody painted over it. And I ended up making an offer to the guy who wanted to get it restored because he painted it in nineteen sixty seven. He took the offer and I took the paint off of it and I found one of the flamiest fifty nine.
It's like a strata Varius of electric guitars. And I call it Lazarus because it kind of rose from the dead, and that all happened at Baronis, surrounded by other guitar experts who were telling me I was out of my mind.
And this is a quarter of a million dollar guitar, about right, Yeah, question about that, because you have so many of them, Joe, and I'm gonna let me switch into your world seriously for a minute. Yeah.
I've tried to teach myself guitar many times. I have failed miserably. I have very small hands, very short fingers.
I just try.
It's very hard for me to get basic fingerings. But I also I taught myself keyboard because it was a very logical instrument. I really don't understand the layout of the guitar. I don't understand why it's strong the way it's strong. I don't understand the frontboard. But you have so many guitars. The pedestrian question that I think people like me would ask is are they really that different, especially when you get into the world of electric guitars.
I understand an acoustic guitar, different woods, slightly different shapes and sizes will make it seems like on an electric guitar, the string is the string. And what makes an electric guitar different from any other electric guitar?
I saw, I can explain this is the for the player. Like you can give me a two hundred dollars guitar and a two hundred thousand dollars guitar are blindfold, you'd be like, it sounds the same, right, what you what you get from an old guitar a classic is an extra five percent in the build quality, the woods older, the resonance is better, and you do hear it, but it's it's subtle, you know. I mean I tour with the expensive stuff because it's part of the show. I know,
like thousands of guitar gets show up every night. I don't know, they want to see real stuff, right, so I bring it. But I know if I play in a two hundred our guitar, and you know, because I think people sometimes hear with their eyes, you know, it's like it's it's like if I play a two und our guitar and I have my like turned around and be like, oh, it's just you must have one of his fifty nines. No, I got this two hundred dollars.
And what makes guitars special is the fact that they're all different, Like you can play a very expensive guitar that absolutely does nothing, and then the one that was built the same day is the one that's the magic and get you know, Gibson or Fender. They didn't really have a process where they didn't have like their best crafts. They just they had order so like build this, build that, build an ant, send it out, leave on froday, start on Monday. And it was a happy accident. Like I
have three of the original Flying Be's. I owned about three percent of the original run of Flying Bee guitars. The reason why they're so damn valuable is because they only built less than one hundred because it was a flop. Nobody wanted this odd shaped guitar for two hundred and seventy nine dollars in nineteen fifty eight, and it would be a hard sell as a kid to go, hey, dad, can you're buy me this really wacky looking guitar that
you can't even sit down and play? They're not going that wasn't so the happy accidents along the line create the demand and also the people that used them, like the sunburst Less Paulsy you're talking about Jimmy Page you're talking about Dwayne Almond, you're talking about Billy Gibbons. A lot of class said guitar sounds were me with that particular instrument, everybody just went why And they've been collectible since the seven It just gives a I buy stories I don't.
I was just going to say, it's a story.
I don't buy. You know, my favorite kind of guitars is like I get a picture of an old guy and pat in black and white playing it back in the day, and it's like, that's the story, and you're.
So rather than give this to your niece and nephew, why don't Why don't you curate? What? What was that? But why don't you curate? Then that's important? Why not curate some museums so so that that those artifacts don't go away and people appreciate it just the way you describe.
Yeah, I mean there's a lot. I mean there's there's a couple of museums. There's one here in Nashville, there was one in Chattanooga, really really complete stuff. The met did a huge display a lot of it with celebrity owned stuff, And like, the reason why I don't collect celebrity guitars is I played a lot of Hendrix's guitar, played Albert King's buying the and the weirdest thing happened. I sound nothing like Jimmy Hendrix. I sound nothing like Albert King.
I'm like, exactly, that's where.
The sound is. And you know, I mean, the whole thing is it's it's it's just a fun hobby for me that that's spiral out of control. And I've been I've been lucky enough to I get to use these in my my day job.
You know, it's it's I love that you show up to the gigs, because the gigs, the gigs. He's playing the sixty eighth strand you know that. That's what did you learn?
Did you pick up the thing and teach yourself to play or did you study this instrument?
I mostly self taught. I took some formal lessons when I was a kid, but I had like back in the eighties, attention deficit disorder isn't wasn't a thing. It was like, you're just you're just scattered and all I had a one. I had a one track one. I want to play Steve yorray Von, Albert King, Jimmy Hendrix, Robin Trouer air clapt I was not interested in mel Bay Book one or two. I just wanted to put records on in jam along and I'm just kind of
I just just kind of play. But what I did realize quickly right around by the time I was ten eleven when I did my first shows that being a shy, introverted person, having that ability to take guitar and play for people it was it was as much a shield as it was a weapon.
Are you able to hear music in your head and just have it come out in your hands?
Yeah, pretty much. I can. I'm an ear player. I could. I can hear it and kind of guess where it is on the fingerboard.
I've been trying to figure out the bass now for about two years, and I'm starting to understand it a little bit. But to me, the fantasy of the bass in particular, because I do great bass lines. When I put on the radio and I start singing a bassline of my own choosing, I'm spectacular to be able to have that in my head and just have it come out my hands. To me, he seems like I might
as well try and fly to Mars. It just I don't know how to translate the instrument into my brain and my my being in that way that you know, I'm just I marvel at it.
If you if you, if you do it enough, it becomes easier. It's like, okay, well this is where it's at, you know. And it's a lot of trial and error. I mean, everybody, nobody. There's not a single person from Eddie van Halen to whoever that that honestly hasn't made a mistake horribly, you know, like horribly bitted on stage, like just complete you know. I read the guy from the Jonas Brothers had to go into therapy because he clammed really hard on the Grammys of some award show
and he doesn't know me. But like I, people were like piling on as they do on the internet. I defended him. I said, listen, there's not a single person of any skill that hasn't gone out there and bombed. Your comedian made a glaring mistake, just completely out of key. I don't know what I was thinking, complete train wreck.
The difference is everything now is filmed, yeah, and everything goes immediately on the line online, and every single note of music that you do, or every joke you tell, or every scene you're in or whatever is immediately judged against your entire body of work.
We're recording the show on October fifth, twenty twenty three. You got a new album coming out right today? Yeah, today, and people can find it. Where what's it called?
And where can we find it?
It's called Blues Deluxe Vyume Too, And it's a twentieth anniversary version of a record that saved my career. We did Blues Deluxe in two thousand and three when I got dropped from Sony. I was unsignable. Nobody wanted it. It was over. It's twenty five years old, going all right, well it's seventy second subway station busking and maybe and maybe backing up someone who's more fortunate. Yeah, And we did this record in seven days. My manager and I
put in ten thousand dollars. Everybody we went all in. It was like it was it was like, you know, thirty five black the roulette right and spun the wheel and then it hit thirty five blacks.
Wow.
And so when the twentieth anniversary came up, I was like, well, the heart, you know, like the tapes and everything that we recorded twenty years ago, the hard drives you can't, can't. They're all shot so couldn't remix it, couldn't do anything. There was no bonus tracks. I said, screw it, We'll just we'll just do another volume, another version, you know, new songs, and we recorded last year for the twentieth anniversary and it's out today.
Wow, look at that. From that, from that, Joe, Well, that moment saving to being the owner. I was going to say, fortunate.
I'm going to tell you who else is fortunate and see if you know what they have in common. Mark Cuman, Draymond Green, I'm brady. They have a longoria, Chris Ever, Derek Bentley, Michael Phelps, Heidi Klom, Kevin Durant, Rich Paul and Anheuser bush All all team.
They owned pickleball teams as.
He never dreamed as a child when he was playing guitar at age four, that one.
Day, I am so happy we we. I don't think we left the stone unturned when it comes to pickleball today.
Well, because I think if there's a if you're listening right now, you're away in my past. I think the source we found, the source we went to the zero pickball is Yeah, God bless us and if I know Joe, by the way, if we've learned anything from him, when he gets off today, he's going to say, that's never gonna happen to me again. I'm going to become I'm going to spend hours and days forget playing guitar, right, I'm going to learn everything I didn't know about pickle is correct about that, Joe.
We're canceling the tour so you can study pickle and and I'm going to study pickleball become a professional pickleball player. I'm going to try out for my own team, Joe.
It was a pleasure, man, checking mat. I had such a joy preparing for this and watching you play and watching.
Hopefully my guitar knowledge made up for my lack of pickleball.
To pickle ball, I wouldn't have. I wouldn't have had anybody on rather than you for pick a ball very.
Well, I know that was I mean, if I had any questions about pickleball, the origins, how the game is playing, overwhelmed with the professional world of pickle ball, there's we left no stone unturned.
I always get the right guy, don't I you do. It's amazing, it is amazing. I can hone in on it. Tell tell the truth.
When you found out that Joe Banamasa.
So here's what you look at, here's the pore.
I look at him the way I would look at Olivier and you know that, and that he had anything that starts with a P in his resume, and you went, good enough, what happens and I'm going to have him on the show.
What happens is when we do the show, we're pulling back the the curtain a little bit. We can afford to curtain. We actually have it on that line like we're blind.
We have a sound curtain to keep the other thing that's filming quiet.
So, Laurie is amazing. We always talk about issues and then try and find the best guys and you always say to me, which it makes me really happy. I can't defina this guy's the best normal. They said, Laurie, we want one of the guys from the feuding pickleball leagues. Yes, and then there's some other the notables in the pickleball world. No, so I said, let's go for believe that.
Like a person who's just a professional pickleball player said, I'm not going to myself.
Well, we all have a repute. We also don't just want to pickable players, like, yeah, my backhand is so you got to think of where you're going. So I said, let's get an owner. Yeah, so I know Derek Bentley for a long time. He said, no, yeah, Mark Cuban, make a call. I don't have his number anyway. So LA said, I always do the O. For God's sake, we should be able to get to Lari says, you know what we got Joe Bonamasa. And I went, that's terrific.
And then I said to you, when we're preparing, you mean.
I'm gonna peel the curtain back even further. Peter sends me days before we do these. He sends me lists with links of information and things background on our subject, on our guest, controversy, areas we can go to. And he sent me three pages of links to Joe Bonamassa.
Nothing's do with pickable. By the way, tell you the truth. When I was researching, you know why that is, I couldn't find it, couldn't find it. So I said to you, this could be a unique pickleball on interview. But you know what what a joy he was and what a good sport what a good sport. Yeah, good guy, David Google Hai, what do you got, David?
Major league pick a ball? How do you play it? Who's on? And how many you know? Participants?
So it's a co ed teams of four okay, so two men, two women when they're competing on the court. Game one women's doubles, Game two men's doubles, and then game three men interesting.
Interesting pickleball.
We talked a lot about the name you gave, some of the some of the genealogy there. So it's generally there's no definite ad answer, but generally the consensus is the Pickles the dog story is not No, it is not correct. The girl who owned Pickles said no. Pickles came later and was named after the game, And a lot of people were saying that they the dog story originated because and Jason, I think you would you would
believe this. It's very difficult to explain the other genesis, right, it's boats, pickle boats, and there's something Yeah, so I'm not even going to get into it. I was reading a lot. It's it's like if you know boats, if you know what a pickle boat is.
I thought it was named because the game was created by old Jews. That's honestly what I thought it was. The first I heard a pickle ball. It was being played in Floria, like in the retirement communities.
In Flora, and I thought, oh, old.
Jews, they pickle It looks like it's a pickle.
That's what I really thought. I'm in a pickle. Yeah, I'm not in a I'm not in a pickle.
It's a Delli related it's like a I thought it was Deli related.
Yeah, I did. I did. So why was it called lock ball? It's that's right. Yeah. Also yeah, the negative all right? Or man, Yeah, that's what it would have been. Yeah.
You had mentioned that that pickleball has been talked about is becoming an Olympic sport in and many people are saying by twenty thirty they because of the popularity here in the United States and the growing popularity around the world, it could in fact become an Olympic sport. Well, I wanted to throw at you some because that's sort of the pinnacle of any sport, right on the Olympics. So I want to throw some at you. Some historical Olympic
sports were there? Were they not in the Olympics? Okay, number one.
Tug of war.
Yes, no, Ank agrees, I bet no.
Tug of war was actually one of the original sports back and you're talking.
Back in the olden days.
It was, well, I do have dates.
It was actually resurrected from nineteen hundred to nineteen twenty.
Okay, moving's going to stab me in the neck of you.
Don She has a Facebook, she has a whole archery.
Whole archery? What does that mean?
Archery?
The sport involves hanging a bird shaped targets from the top of a.
Pole and firing arrows.
Yes, sure, sure, yes.
Yes, nineteen twenty that was in the in the the Olympic sports of course, bird stoning, bird stone.
No, not no, putting. It almost got in but didn't.
Right, that is a completely made up sports.
But in the nineteen hundred Olympic Games in Paris, there was an event called live pigeon shooting where over three hundred.
Pigeons were killed.
All right, steeplechase, steeplechase course.
Okay, yes, it is motor racing. Motor race.
No, that's an extreme sport.
Nineteen hundred.
In that Paris there was a weird Paris Games because they had the World's Fair in Paris that year as well.
So there's some strange okay, a couple more for you.
Pistol dueling, No, no, no, are you sure.
I'm pretty sure.
Nineteen o eight, Oh boy, competitors donning protective clothing and firing wax bullets at one another at distances of twenty and.
That that I don't want.
That.
I like, I don't like hurting the birds, but too idiots shooting.
By the way, how you what is your son doing? He's in the olymp Is. That's paintball.
They're too good. They're too good. A hacky sack, hacky sack.
No, no, you're correct, that is false.
Last one, I'm gonna throw it at you.
So low synchronized swimming, so swimming.
We can't be synchronized if it's so solow synchronized, not synchronized, but just by the fact that it's synchronized. Do you synchronizing with the camping or maybe some music? Yes, yes, maybe yes.
I'm going to.
Abstain so that I can't be wrong, so I yes, I would say, yes, it's synchronized. The music go ahead from nineteen.
Eight here to nineteen ninety two.
There you go, do you ever hear stone start. Ever, then there's stun synchronized swimming, which is stun people. Yeah, synchronized. They don't you doing their music in their head? By the way, I thought we were going this way the bullets. That's saying the dual they should were doing. Well, that's paintball. I'm not kidding, but not two more on standing.
I love the nine ten turn boom.
I love that. And by the way, who are you practicing with? Right? How do you practice it? I got to go out in the back.
Yeah, well that was like the thing I used to do about Australian rules football, which has no rules.
How do you how does a father and son.
Play the game? You take the kid in the back? You cants game. Spent some time to go off? Look at that. We spent some time together. Well, thank you, Goheim, gosh, thank you. Joe Bonamon, one of the great pickleball owners and historical historians.
Chancelling is next door to learn more about pickleball because of us, and hopefully you've learned a little about pickleball and touring as a guitarist.
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That's another episode if Really Really comes to a cluse. I know you're wondering, is there a sport that come by volleyball, soccer, gymnastics, and martial arts and is played on an inflatable court utilizing trampolines. Well, yes, of course there is, and I'll tell you about it in a moment, but.
First let's thank our guest, Joe Bonamasa.
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make a world of difference if you subscribe. We release new episodes of Really No Really every Tuesday, so make sure to follow us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And Now what Sport combines volleyball, soccer, gymnastics, and martial arts and is played on an inflat with trampolines. Well, that sport is boss a ball, which can be played volleyball style using hands
or soccer style using any other body part. Music is played during the game to create a fun atmosphere and inspire crazy dance and martial arts moves. And the game is already big and much of South America, Europe, in the Middle East. And as soon as I make my first one hundred thousand, I'm buying an inflatable bossa ball court.
What's that It won't fit in a studio apartment. Okay, well I'll figure something out.
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