There's something about Mary. How RHOSLC star changed the game

production experience. Twice a week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey rain Drops. On today's episode of Reality with the King, we have to talk about how Mary Cosby changed the game. And when I say changed the game, I mean what we have seen on reality television, especially on the Real Housewives

franchise in years. We are now entering a moment here that really speaks to where the franchise as a whole is going All of you, child, not some of you. All of you know that I got my start in reality television back in two thousand and eight being an associate producer on this little show called The Real Housewives of Atlanta. Okay, is my first foray into reality television, and I fell in love this genre because I enjoy working,

meeting and producing real people who had real issues. And it was at a time where there was no social media, right, There wasn't a blueprint in terms of how a reality star should behave. It was out of time where everybody was being their authentic selves, okay, And it gave a birth of you know, the amazing Nini League, Charae Whitfield, Kim Zosiac, you know, the list goes on and on, Lisa wou, Deshaun Snow, the whole nine yards, and the show ultimately became number one for like, I think, ten

consecutive years. I'm around that even more, I think, I don't know, but that show was number one for a long time, and then something happened. Something happened with the state of reality television where it became a genre where people were entering the space for the wrong reasons. Yes, everybody who in reality television obviously wants to fame, and

there's nothing wrong with that. Right, but there is this sort of exchange that you have right with that goal of yours, and that was always Look, I am going to have to be real and I'm going to have to talk about real life stuff. Season one of Atlanta Housewives, we had Ninni Leaks discussed the paternity of the man she thought was her father, and the season finale of the Real Housewives of Atlanta Season one, Nini Leaks took a DNA test and found out that the man who

she thought was her father was not her dad. Okay, you had Kim Zosiak Honey drinking out of a wrist solo cup, smoking her cigarette in a car, dating a man who was married of calling him Big Papa. He bought her a freaking escalade that was sixty five dollars.

She wrote the check. It was real life stuff. Those days are gone, unfortunately, because you know, look is what I talked about last week in terms of how Vanda Pump Rules is getting a whole new cast, and I did talk about the fact that the reason why a lot of us fell in love with Vanda Pump Rules is because we love seeing these young adults on the come up actually working at the bar, being a host, a hostess, a bar back, you know what I mean,

a bartender, and how they had this very close relationship. Some were sleeping with each other, some are best friends, some are enemies, friendemies, the whole nine yards. And then on that show, they became so famous that they obviously could not work as sir anymore, and they just became celebrities and the plot was lost. And now we have the scene that truly was the best emotional scene that I've seen a long time, and that is the scene

between Mary Cosby and her son Robert. Mary Cosby is probably the fan favorite of the Real House of Salt Lake City because she's hilarious, she's whimsical, she's a little kookie, the best compliment possible. But ultimately she's herself. You know, she's an evangelist. I don't want to say the wrong thing, but she passes at a church. There's different titles from a pastor to a preacher to an evangelist, So I don't want to call her the wrong thing, but she

speaks at the church. Let's just say that to be safe. And the thing with Mary is Mary is who she is, and that's why people like her and the kookiness is, but we thrive on when it comes to Mary checking these girls. Mary not feeling some of these girls. But baby, this whimsical kookie woman named Mary Cosby Gabe Salt Lake City,

the best scene that show has ever seen. To see this woman be vulnerable with her son who is twenty one years old, Okay, her son, Robert Cosby Jr. It reminded me of what I did for Housewives in New Jersey and we had Caroline Manzel speak to Albi about the fact that he was dyslexic, and Albi pretty much spoke about like what that meant for him and Caroline Manziel this tough woman. You know what I'm saying. A lot of people call her tough broad. It was the

first time we seen Caroline Manzel break down and become vulnerable. Now, look not comparing both scenes, so stop it. What I am saying, though, is we thought Caroline Mansa was one person, and that scene showed us another person At that time. Mary Cosby sitting down with her son talking to him about the addiction that he is going through, showed us aside of Mary Cosby, that I don't think any of us ever expected to see and she has cemented herself

as the face of the show. She has cemented herself as the woman who was carrying the torch about bringing back real reality to this oversaturated genre of people who are using it to become famous and not giving their real lives anymore. Hence the lack of enjoyment all of us are having with real housewats of New York City. But I'll get to that later. Let's stick to Mary Cosby. In the amazing scene she ever with her son. It was emotional to watch. I personally cannot watch that scene again,

that's how much it impacted me. I literally was stoic. I was stuck. I didn't know. I don't know what to do except continue watching it and seeing this mother hear her son talk about his addiction and saying that, and I'm not gonna cry. When her son said that she is the only reason why he's not going to kill himself, I mean, wow, just wow. My heart goes

out to Robert, Mary, Robert Sr. In the family. I think everybody has at least one person in their family who has suffered through some form of addiction, whether it's drugs or alcohol. And I think all of us sat in that moment and watch the bravery and the courageousness that Mary and her son displayed. My heart goes out to them. I am super proud of Robert Junior, who is twenty one years old. You know, he's not a minor,

he's not a teenager, He's an adult. And the fact that his bravery and courageousness and honesty allow us to witness that, my heart goes out to him for that. And my heart obviously goes out to Mary for that, the strength that she displayed during the scene and even allowing it to air, because let's have a real conversation. I have been privy to moments in my career where scenes were so emotionally real that as a human being, and I'll speak for myself, I'm not gonna speak for

anybody else but me. I personally would take someone aside and say, I am okay with you telling me you don't want that aired. I know that goes against every single rule that I signed up doing this show or this genre, you know. To be more specific, but in my career there has been two moments where I really sat down and said, this scene is going to be shown around the world, and while I appreciate your bravery, your courageousness. I also know that, unfortunately, there are people

out there who aren't as nice. And if you're telling me that after the next day, after you thought about it, you don't want this aired. I will speak to the powers that be. I've had that twice in my career, and I'm not gonna say because that's her business. And both ladies said to me, I appreciate that, Carlos, but I signed up to do reality television, so I'm okay. I'm okay, And that's why my heart goes out to Mary. I'm speechless right now, and y'all know I can talk.

I'm speechless right now because Mary really does what she wants on that show. And when I say that, like Mary is there to just coexist. You know. She if she doesn't want to go to an event, she won't go. If she wants to go to McDonald's for a happy meal, she's gonna have the bus driver take her child. If Mary don't want people at her house, honey, you can't come, you know what I mean. Like that's the beauty of Mary. She's not fronting for the cameras, She's being really honest.

And I have never seen a more beautiful scene in my life. It is to really talk about a drug addiction with your child. You know. I was there when Nini Leaks and her son Bryson, had the conversation about what he was going through while he was in high school. And that scene comes up on Twitter slash x every once in a while where Nini said, you lost your damn mind and if you think I'm hard on you, then blah blah blah blah. And I thought that was

like the most emotional scene. But this scene with Mary, it raised the bar. It raised the bar for the state of reality television that we're in right now, where we are suffering through insufferable individuals who are taking advantage of this quick instant fame and wanting an exchange for Instagram followers, popularity and a possible endorsement deal, okay with a brand. And that's the reason why we are all not into a lot of shows anymore. And look, I'll

speak for myself, honey. That's the reason why you don't see me or in this case, hear me. You don't hear me talk about a lot of reality shows like I used to because some of this shit is fake and boring, and I don't give a fuck. I just don't. I don't. I don't care about a prank. I don't care about you know, a scene between two women who are orchestrating a caff fight because they know that it's going to trend on Twitter. I do not care to watch it. In the words of Eileen Davidson, send it

back in the mail. You ps that bitch. Put a post stamps on it, first class priority mail. Ship it back, Okay, refund me please, okay, return to send her. She doesn't live here anymore. Apartment is not occupied, it's vacant. Okay, I'm over it. I'm over it. I'm over it. Child. We are just getting started. This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. It was the reason why a lot of times when it came to Salt Lake City, I was like, Ugh,

some of this shit I just don't care about. But you know the rain drops, y'all. Let me watch last season, which was fantastic. And I love last season because it was so real. I'm liking this season because of bron Win, because she's real and she's funny and she's activating the girls. She's making me fall in love Lisa Barlow because I think li alos being herself when Broad when you know, checks her, honey. And that's the reason why I appreciate

what Mary brought to the show. And for those who want to know, Mary Cosby did open up about her son. She said on a recent after show that her and her husband are supporting their son on his road to recovery. She said, and I quote Robert SR. He tries to share with Robert Junior his situation before Robert Sr's mom made him go through the army. He enjoyed getting high too. I don't have that to share with him. I can't see through his eyes, but I do understand him and

I and I don't judge him. Mary has said that she talks to Robert every day about his issues. She added that she feels like dealing with that in anybody's life is really hard because it's almost embarrassing because at some point your child has to tell you, mom, I have a vulnerable sigh and I failed and I wasn't able to bring myself back up. Yeah, it's sad, It's really sad. She also wanted us to know that Robert Junior is steady, which for her is healthy, and that

he is doing good. Shout out to Robert. Our prayers and thoughts and everything is with you. Get the help that you need, and I'm happy to hear that you're doing well. But a couple of people had a difference of opinions, and I want to talk to your Raine Drops about that. A lot of the fans know is that none of Mary's castmates showed any public support for that scene, which does say a lot. It says a lot.

I don't I mean, listen, I don't know if that means they're trying to respect her privacy, although I don't think Mary will be mad at a public statement saying that our heart and thoughts and prayers are going are being sent to you guys. So I don't know about that. That's pretty odd that we didn't see that. I don't know what that means, rain Drops. What is that? I mean,

it's weird. You have Porsche Williams from Atlanta Housewives, Shall Marry Some Love and a lot of other BRA celebrities, but the time and air, none of the ladies on the show said anything, and that is a little bit odd. It's odd. Well, also maybe deemed as odd is Jill Zaron's daughter Ali Shapiro. She slammed Salt Lake City for using Mary Cosby's son's addiction issues as a storyline, and she said, honey, that it is not okay. So this is what Ali, who is the daughter of Jill Zarin

from the Real Housewives of New York City. Ali said this. Maybe because I'm a former housewife kid, I had a completely different take on this scene. I don't think it's okay that this was filmed like this. I think that it should have been once he was in or out of rehab with a therapist, et cetera. He does it seem like a public person and this will follow him

for the rest of his life. While it was a powerful moment between a mother and her son, it's a moment I think should have been shared off camera or after he was healthy. These are real people and a twenty one year old kid who needs help. I was you to think a storyline at what cost? Okay, here's my thoughts. We're not going to vilify a reality star for sharing her reality, Okay. I why do we watch reality TV to see someone phoning it in like I'm not here for that. I'm not here for that on

The New York City Housewives. I have not given that show my eyeball second season. I don't care to watch women on a show who refuse to have their partner be a part of it. I think that shit is whack. I said it it it is what it is. I grew up, okay, watching the Real World. I grew up with Tammy Relman on the Real World Los Angeles, Okay, trying to lose weight by getting her teeth shut with wires to prevent her from eating food. And you mean to tell me there's a problem with an adult woman

and an adult man. He is not a twenty one year old kid. Okay, at twenty one, you are an adult. Why are we vilifying a mother and a son who knew cameras were there. It's not like it was behind the scenes and somebody was hiding in the closet shooting it the way they shot Lisa Barlow talking to the producer about how Meredith allegedly fucks all of New York City. It wasn't like Mary wasn't aware there was a camera

her face. This is what reality TV is, And excuse me, for screaming, turn down the volume if you're driving in your car. But it makes me annoyed that we lost the plot is and I'm hearing that on Botomac Housewives. We don't like me a Thorn's storyline. It's not it's too love and hip hop? First of all, what does that even mean? Number one? But that's a whole nother discussion for a whole nother day, because don't get me started on y'all making that reference. It ain't loving hip hop?

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Some of y'all just hate y'allselves in y'all community, But I'm not gonna go there. On this podcast. It's all about Mary, hence the title of this podcast being there's something about Mary, Okay. The only way I could understand this truly is if Robert Junior was like, thirteen, do you know what I mean? I'll even give you sixteen. That's the only way I would be like, Uh, he's sixteen. Because he's a miner.

That's the only reason I'll be like only because he's a minor. Right, Robert Junior is twenty one years old. He's an adult. He's over the age of eighteen, and he signed up for it, and so that his mom, and it wasn't a hidden camera. They knew what they were doing. So I don't like it when the world judges reality starts for showing the reality. But you guys think it's okay to watch a prank on a show about this person. Huh. Get the child, girl, honey, boo boo,

and then listen. A lot of the girls read Ali for filth okay, cuz they cause. Let me tell you something, baby, before you go off on a tangent that is unsolicited and listen. I do a y'all on my podcast. Okay, this is a solicited podcast. I do it because I want to write. But girl, they're trying to read you to Ali, Honey, they're reading you. Boo. They got receipts timeline, Okay,

they're reading you. So a lot of the people brought up the fact that Ali's mom, Jill Zaren, mentioned on camera about her going to a fat camp okay, and a lot of people were challenging Ali saying, oh wait, so you don't like that. So did you not like it when your mom mentioned on camera about you going to a fat camp? Which I mean, look, let's have a real conversation. A lot of people will look at that like that was too much. And I think at the time Ali was under twenty one on allegedly, you know,

that's what it looks like. So was Jill Zaron wrong for having that type of conversation on camera just saying it's something that people are talking about. They're talking about it, so look like I said, I applaud Mary, applaud Roberts Jr. Mary, thank you so much for giving us back for reality television. It's what's missing in this genre today. And I just give you so much credit for your courageousness, your bravery, and again to Robert Jr. Of course more importantly for

your courageousness and bravery and honesty. And what I would like to say in closing is this, you never know the power of what the camera can do for someone's life life. And it is my deep, deep, deep hope that that scene airing will allow Robert Jr. To know that he has a lot of support from the world.

And I believe in energy first and foremost, I believe in God and prayer, So we're all praying for you, Robert Jr. And my belief is the fact that your honesty not only is it going to help you, you know, that's our hope, that it helps you recover and have a clean bill for the rest of your life, but that you are also helping lots of families who are dealing with this. So we love you and Mary Cosby. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you for listening

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