Ep. #663: Charlamagne Tha God, Ana Navarro, Joel Stein

Welcome to from the HBO Late Night series, Real Time with Bill Ma.

Thank you. I appreciate it. How are you going? Hello people. How are you though? Thank you. Thank all of you. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Glad to see that. I think

And now he finds them on cristal. I mean I'm telling you, he's come a long way, this guy.

Thank you.

Okay, so they got one right and then they did this, the Supreme Court. Yeah, okay, so this is about guns. In twenty seventeen, remember there was a Vegas shooting? Oh, I stayed at that hotel one time. Okay, that was horrible. Trump was president, banned bump stocks. Bump stocks. You know what bump stocks are? There's this this gadget.

But I mean they said Trump banned this. Trump is the one who banned the bum stocks and somehow his his Second Amendment loving fans and supporters, they just don't care. It just shows it's never about politics anymore. It's just about the cult. I mean, h he could come down tomorrow at a press conference with blue hair. And a t-shirt that says trans women are women and they'd go, here's a good point.

But uh today it's Donald Trump's birthday. Very exciting. He said, and listen to this. Uh a a Congress, a Republican, of course, Congressman from Florida, introduced a bill uh to rename the ocean. Fort Trump. Well, not the whole ocean. That would be ridiculous. But yes, a part of the ocean they want to rename for Donald Trump. You know what? Um we're halfway through Pride Month. And I live very close to West Hollywood. This is the gayest thing I've seen.

Thank you.

And of course it is Father's Day Sunday. Where are my fathers? Oh boy, fathers. Oh, Father's Day. Yeah, when a five year old makes a painting and then you have to be pr pretend you're proud of it as it's his dad. Or except in the Biden family when he's fifty-four.

Yeah, I guess it was inevitable. Hunter Biden, he was convicted. They had his trial and it's over now and he was convicted and uh I think they did make some mistakes, maybe would have gone this way anyway, but um I would just say Uh if you're gonna have character witnesses and you're gonna bring on the character witness who are your ex girlfriend and your sister in law, try to have them be two different people. I would say

Yeah.

But it says a lot about justice in America, these two trials, if you followed them. Okay. So Trump was convicted for uh uh falsifying business documents. Hunter was convicted for lying on his gun application. I think it just shows that porn, adultery, election interference, drugs, guns, that's all good, but do not fuck with bookkeeping in America. That does not fly here.

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I I had to bring it out. I you know, if you're gonna sell books, this is the place to sell books because your book is your book is selling like crack in the eighties.

Well, yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I wasn't gonna mention it, but as long as we're

What, the crack of the book?

Okay.

Well uh okay, so I would have done that for you, but yeah, I I read it. Fantastic. You're a you're a very good writer. Thank you very much. I assume you do that all by yourself without uh helper of a writer because

Right.

Mine isn't it.

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Right.

Now my guy Chris Morrow, he's he's helped me with uh all three of my books.

greatest thing to have a writing staff. Absolutely you can steal the best things that come out of someone else's mind. and put your name on it. But okay, so uh the first thing I want to ask you because, you know, you are the man when it comes to when people want to ask what's going on in the black community, what does Charlemagne say about it? I mean Joe Biden went there last time. I'm assuming I assume he's gonna come back for this election. Uh

Oh, it's not me, and I don't even think I'm the voice, cause you know, black people aren't monolithic. You know, I I say some things that people may agree with, I say some things people may disagree with, but I think what people like is they like the fact that they know I'm sincere. And I think what

Thank you.

And I'll tell you what this is. You know, what these elected officials, what these artists, what they care about is the audience. I mean, the Breakfast Club, we talk to like 4.5 million people a month. We got a podcast that we put out daily that does 15 to 20 million downloads. They not coming for me. They coming to try to pand it to our audience.

That's very modest.

Bye.

I mean we're not we're we're nothing without our viewers, we're nothing without our listeners, you know.

And they have a choice of where to go and they go to you. Okay. Let's not fight about how great you are.

No, my audience is the best. God is good and my audience is the best.

I agree with one of those statements.

I'm not endorsing anybody.

Right.

But that doesn't mean I'm not voting.

Oh I understand. Yes. But that is a way of indicating where your mind is on that. I understand. I don't agree with it. I am gonna vote for Joe Biden if it's Trump and Biden. I've said it before. I'll vote for his head in a jar of blue liquid.

Whenever I have these conversations or I come on these shows, I say the same thing about Donald Trump. I think Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. I think he led an attempted coup with his country. He wanted to, you know, terminate the constitution to overthrow the results of an election. And I say I'm voting to preserve democracy. So when I say those things that I just said, does it sound like I'm voting for Donald Trump?

Thank you.

And I want to show but I want you to just say it.

No, I watched your show a couple weeks ago. I saw uh Ken Burke was up here. Ken Burke said he's not uh he doesn't support Trump or Biden and he's not voting. You didn't give him no pushback on that.

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Am I saying his name right? White guy Republican?

Thank you.

Wow. I I don't remember that dude, but I I push back on that all the time.

No, he said he said I I I remember it vividly. He said I'm he said I don't support either one of them and I'm not I'm not I'm not voting.

So uh I want to ask you about Morehouse, though. This is the speech that Biden made. It was graduation. He, you know, it was the commencement address, presidents give it. Um Morehouse Like I said, It's it's not all black anymore, right? Because I think that's against the law, but it's certainly founded as a all black men's

Right.

Okay. So um what do you think of Biden's message? Because it was very controversial. I know you've talked about it. Well how would you summarize his message and what are your feelings about it?

Um I I didn't even feel like, you know, that was the time for him to even, you know, be political. If he was gonna be inspirational, he should have been inspirational. But it felt like it was just like a lot of doom and gloom. It felt like, you know It was.

Yeah.

It felt like you should vote for me because if not, you know, the sky is falling. And I just didn't feel like that was the place to be for him to do it. I didn't even think he should have g gave the commitment speech. What I thought he should have did is he should be holding town, town halls at places like Morehouse College. Instead of trying to talk to people, he should talk with them.

The one of the more controversial things he said was he said to the graduating class that you have to be ten times as good to get uh a fair shot in America. And can I read what Glenn Lowry and John McWater, you listen to their podcast, I think they're great, said about this. Lowry said, I thought it was the kind of speech you would have given in nineteen seventy four, maybe nineteen eighty four, but not in nineteen twenty four.

Uh I don't know if it's ten times better, but maybe five.

Yeah.

Oh.

You think you have to be five times?

Yeah.

In twenty twenty.

When when you're black in America, when you're a woman in America, if you're a black woman in America, absolutely.

I think that's I think that's a zombie lie. Because I just don't think that's America anymore. Uh well let's talk about Caitlyn Clark, because that has it's similar to that. Absolutely. Um okay. So there was a lot of controversy because she's not gotten a big welcome there in the WNBA, which is only twenty percent white. Um here's the Las Vegas Aces star, Angel Wilson said.

South Carolina, by the way, eight oh three. That's where she's from. I'm from the same.

Thank you.

Best woman's player in the WNBA, Asia Wilson.

Okay. Maybe now. I don't know. Two MVPs. I don't follow women's basketball. I said it last week. I don't apologize. I don't follow college. I don't follow lots of sports. Just the big three at playoff time.

Gotcha.

Wait a minute.

But she said uh a lot of people may say it's not about black and white. She's talking about her and Caitlin Clark and Caitlin Clark getting such a big hoopla. It really is because you can be top notch at what you are as a black woman, but yet maybe that's something that people don't want to see. They don't see it as marketable. So it doesn't matter how hard I work.

Caitlin.

Clark has a tangible quality that nobody can really quantify. And what that is, just the ability to put seats, I mean to put asses in seats. Like you don't know who's gonna be a draw and you don't know who's not gonna be a draw. I mean, there's been plenty of, you know, white women basketball players who've come through that have been great, right? But they just weren't able to draw the type of audience that Caitlin Clark has. And I think the other thing with Caitlin.

But you don't think it's a problem that this this young woman there's so many examples. Where I mean black people are very marketable. And she seems to have been indoctrinated into this they don't see it as marketable, so it doesn't matter how hard I work.

Well Asia's been in the league for like six, seven years. She's got two MVPs, she's won a couple of championships, but she's just getting a signature shoe now, right? Caitlin Clark's got a twenty million dollar Nike deal already as a rookie. So what do you what's how do you explain that?

I don't know

Because this is somebody who apparently again, I don't know anything about women's basketball, but they said that she broke all the records in college. Okay. I mean when people come into the league and they're like the biggest thing in college, isn't that a big deal?

No, because Asia Ocean was the biggest thing when she came out of South Carolina. That's where I'm from. So she was one of the biggest things when she came out of South Carolina, number one draft pick. And she didn't get all of that. So what do you attribute that to?

I I mean you sa you're saying that's racism. No.

I'm not saying it's racist. I'm just saying that I think Asia Wilson has a point. And I think sometimes when uh you know uh black women say certain things, we should listen, especially her, because I'm not in her shoes.

I don't know. But why why was Serena Williams such a big star? Because people like that. It what they didn't not watch her because she was black, right? Yeah. Okay. So where are we with this?

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I don't know. I'm just sitting back observing the conversation, you know, but I do think

Well you're in the conversation.

I'm trying, I guess I'm trying to ask. What are you asking me? Like, what is the question you're asking me? Are you asking me, is it racist?

Is Caitlin Clark success because she's only white? Is that what you're saying?

Like I said, I think that when you are a a a race that excels in an industry where that race usually doesn't excel, it's more of a a spectacle. And the fact that she's actually really, really good. Like you said, she broke, you know, the scoring record in college. But more importantly

Uh

It could be all of those things.

Okay. Before we run out of time, I know you want to talk about therapy, your time in it, what you think is most valuable about it, and and how you get other people involved.

Oh man, I mean I'm just a big advocate for therapy. You know I'm I I started going to therapy in two thousand and sixteen and it just kinda like, you know, changed it just it just changed my life'cause I think, you know, a lot of times me, I was a person dealing with a lot of anxiety, dealing with bouts of depression.

Plant based medicine. I think I'm into that too.

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I'm trying it all though. I've done, you know, I d I do weed, I've done microdose and I've done ayahuasca, but I'm also a big proponent of just taking your shoes off, you know, taking your socks off and, you know, walking around barefoot in your backyard. Call that grounding.

Thank you.

And why do you think there's so much uh resistance that people have for getting into therapy?

I think it's a stigma a stigma, you know, I think like like my f I use my father as an example because, you know, in 2018 after I wrote my second book, Ship One, which is about me dealing with anxiety and depression and going to therapy for it, my father actually called me because he read the book. And um I ha also had a cousin complete suicide that week. And I remember my father told me, he said, Yo man, uh I was going to therapy two and three times a week.

All right, well the book is called Get Honest or Die Line.

Well I agree.

I int thank you very much. Because I interview authors all the time, like I just did, uh we have a dilemma. I now am an author. But I can't interview myself. So next week I'm going to be the guest.

Uh and I said, what interview what can I get the greatest interview in the world? No, not you, Joel. I'm sorry. It's Jiminy Glick is going to come back. Remember Jiminy Glick and he's going to interview me. So you're not going to want to miss, that's a very... Special episode next week. Okay.

I thought you were gonna have the Pope.

So into it.

Right.

But apparently you didn't get invited.

Uh no, but I've been to the Vatican. I was thrown out of the Vatican.

Throne out.

Well today he said it's okay to uh laugh at God, so um so I think there's a good chance that we may not burn in hell.

Oh great.

Everything he said about how these trials are the same is true, except one is the major candidate from the Republican Party for president who's leading the polls. Correct. And the other is like his son. It's like comparing Ronald Reagan to Billy Bush. Right. Whether if if Hunter Biden goes to jail, it's not gonna affect

The election.

But Trump is a very good thing.

Well, listen, uh I grew up in a Republican party that used to call itself the Law and Order. And what we've seen now is that there are somehow uh against uh legitimate elections and they're also against legitimate jury verdicts.

We heard

That Joe uh Donald Trump couldn't get a fair trial in New York because everybody hated him. We heard that Hunter Biden couldn't get a fair trial or wasn't gonna get convicted in Delaware because everybody loved the Biden. The difference

Thank you.

Is out there giving interviews. The Donald Trump jury is hiding for fear of their lives because the Law and Order Party has got them in the crosshair.

But the question isn't whether the jury was fair. The question is whether these things should have come to trial. And if we're gonna have a country that brings every politician to trial for some little thing, or their kids or their friends, or their lawyers.

You can have that argument.

Yeah, that's a different issue.

But it but once it did come to trial and a jury sat through weeks of evidence.

But that's not what people are complaining about.

No, no, no, that's not the complaint. No, the Republi listen, there's people like there's people that I call Donald Trump's emotional support senators. Right. Who are doing things like comparing the American legal system to Cuba, where people get sham trials that end up in execution. That should make him ashamed, particularly because he represents a place where there are a bunch of Cuban exiles who are the children of people who got executed.

Yeah.

Attorney General.

Maryland, who was put on trial for lying about taking money out of her four hundred one K that she it wasn't an emergency. I feel like we're putting politicians on trial and we're we're locking her up, which is what Trump threatened to do, and now we're all doing it. Yeah, but I would like I wouldn't be so sad if it didn't happen

Right around the line.

Listen, I mean I I think we need to do compare and contrast here. So Joe Biden's gotten asked about, you know, talking about law and order. He's gotten asked if he would pardon his son, he has said no. Right. He got asked if he would commute his the sentence of his son, he has said no. On the other side, you've got Donald Trump who has said that he will pardon the January sixth insurrectionists. They're not even his sons, they're just sons of bitches.

I heard they were tourists. Oh Some of them actually were. It was a hodgepodge. There were some people who had very bad intent and there were just some goofballs who wandered in. I agree.

The ones who've been convicted?

Well somebody.

Insurrectionists and they are sons of bitches.

But i can we separate these two things? I mean the f going to trial bringing him to trial I I I was never a big fan of this trial to begin with because I don't think you're gonna win it uh in the hearts of the public.

Hunter, no, oh.

Hash bunny. It should have been brought federally if it was going to be brought at all, because it was an election interference trial. It could have affected the election, but a lot of things affect the election. I agree. This kind of looks shady. And if they did it, they should have done it months ago. They should have done it years ago. They've had four years to do it and they did.

They put their lives on hold. They sat there getting basically no per diem. for six weeks, seven weeks, eight weeks and listened to the evidence, one after the other. They sat there in what uh Donald Trump called a freezing room. They didn't even complain about the climate inside the the courtroom, right? And they can't even show their faces in public for fear of their lives and for fear of what could happen to their families. That's an embarrassment in America. It's an embarrassment.

All right, can I ask one more question about Hunter Biden and then I'd really like to stop talking about him except for the death piece, which is really funny. Um I I don't get this. He the the thing with the laptop.

Okay.

Okay, he i if you forget what happened here. He he's got a laptop. No he's a crackhead.

That's that's a good thing.

So he drops it off at a a repair shop.

Yes.

Well, I didn't even know they existed. At a strip mall. At a strip Well, like where? At the palace? No. No. Of course. It's a it's gonna be in a strip mall. He forgets it. Yes. Forgets to retrieve it. Okay, that's all a little weird, but understandable. But then its contents become the property?

How people who in Congress uh often talk about things like revenge porn and outlawing that iPad breaks, throw it away and buy a new one.

Republicans were very pleased with themselves that they caught a crackhead in a line. So we thought, since this is the last time we're probably going to be talking about Hunter Biden until this next trial in September, it would be good time since this is big week to do twenty four things you don't know about Hunter Biden. 24 favorite briefellables. 24 things you don't know about me. For example, I can cook an entire gourmet meal on a piece of tinfoil with a torch lighter.

When a woman ODs at your house, it's not as funny as it is in pulp fiction.

Um my my hobby is threatening my father's re-election with democracy on the line.

Uh my celebrity crush is Brittany Spears. Now.

Uh on the region hotel windows barely open.

Without me, Fox News would need to fill 23 hours of daily programming.

Uh I have a law degree from Yale, although I must have missed the day they covered plea bargains.

I'm the only guy in Delaware whose business is registered in Tijuana.

One time when I lost my gun I was so high I tried calling it. And... I feel so much better since I gave up gluten. Thank you.

Thank you.

So let me go to the uh other side of the equation. Okay, I mentioned Kristall Nocht. If you're not history buffs, you might r might remember that was the night in nineteen thirty eight Hitler was taking over. World War Two was about a year away.

It's like the anti-Passover.

The Nazis use the yellow triangle. I guess they just changed the colors and the and the the language. You can say white supremacist Zionist, but it's Juden.

Uh

Somebody on the New York City subway. Raise your hand if you're a Zionist. This is your chance to get out.

wasn't somebody did you see that video? It's crazy. It's a bunch of, you know, kids in kafitas and they're on the subway. And like, are there any Zionists in here? Like they're kind of like nervous and having a good time. They're like, hey, it's your chance to tell us, raise your hands. And then no one did, they're like, yay, no Zionists here. You don't ask people on a train if they're Jews.

And this is the right.

Here you are.

New York.

Yeah.

Where there's a lot of Jews.

I don't even understand how the term Zionist has become a bad thing. When I grew up being a Zionist meant that you believed in Israel's right to exist.

Yeah.

A lot of these uh people who are doing these protests and who are out there saying they're also not going to vote for Joe Biden. Well here's the thing. If you don't vote for Joe Biden, you're going to help Donald Trump get elected. And if you think Donald Trump is going to be better for a humanitarian solution in the Middle East, you're smoking crack.

Mm-hmm.

They they've changed the meaning of Zionist, they've changed the meaning of Intifada. And uh Intifada now means to like hug someone and they they scream it all the time. I mean there's denotations, there's connotations, and then there's this bullshit, right? Where they tell you that words don't mean what they what they mean. Right.

Right. And uh besides that, you're right. There's there's martyrdom. I've seen these signs. I mean, there was a a demonstration at the White House also over the week. Uh very big demonstration. They had s signs like, yeah, jihad of victory and martyrdom. Okay, jihad, you know, again, i it's an elastic meaning.

Is it?

Well I mean that that's what they would say. Charitably I would give them that, but it can stru well it means struggle.

Holocaust means fire, right? It's not like you invite Jews over to have s'mories at your Holocaust.

You can't I know what jihad really means.

Gracias.

It's it's so infuriating and it's so rich to see these people protesting in front of the White House. Protesting in favor of Hamas because they're not protesting uh over Gaza, they're not protesting against Israel. Those people that in particular that you just put there were protesting in favor of Hamas. Because what? They couldn't do that.

Yeah, I mean, again...

Aplausos.

Uh fuck Israel, stand with Hamas, kill another Zionist now, painted on the statue, death to America, of course, with three K's. Uh death to Israel, death to S.

Covid.

Of course it is. Yeah. And it also Ku Krux Klan, because America's run by the Klan, of course. That's right. Um I got a question. How how come it's okay for the left to hate the Jews? Because obviously if this was the people at Charlottesville who were doing this, wouldn't there be a bigger outcry?

Mm. Um I don't think that's uh I don't think that's an apples to apple uh type of uh comparison. Because look I think uh I think what's driving a lot of these protests, a lot of them might be uninformed. Like I said, I don't agree with a lot of what's being done, but the images of children that are being killed uh through war in Palestine I think has got people uh reacting in a certain way. But people are forgetting that this started because of what happened on October seventh.

What's going on?

It's very horrifying. And I'm not defending anyone's actions.

With these.

These college kids are doing that we're excusing'cause they don't know what they're talking about as if a Yale education isn't better than whatever's happening for these Tiki Torch IT guys who are in Charlottesville. They know what they're doing and they know what they're saying. And we think it's cute because they don't look threatening, because they're like comparative mit lit majors at Yale, but they have way more power than the people in Charlotte.

I think it's just because it's coming from the left. Everything is team sports now. Are you kidding? The if the people in Charlottesville who were chanting Jews won't replace us, I mean that's bad. It's not as bad as death too. I think death that's not deplorable.

It's absolutely the problem.

Okay, well if one side is deplorables and the other side does something that's uh I mean, if I was a Holocaust survivor, and I guess there's not many of those left, but if I was, I would choose Jews will not replace us over death. Yeah.

It's a hell of a choice. 감사합니다.

Thank you.

I think there's honestly I think what you just did in uh talking about Crystal Knight is the type of thing that we have to do over and over again because I think there's a lack of education, particularly among some young people who have forgotten what Jews have gone through for millennia.

We've been trying that for 3,000 years. It does not work.

have to continue trying it for the rest of your existence because if not there because there is no other

We get Spielberg to make movies. We do everything.

Yeah.

Right. It's not sticking.

I You know, I but I th I think there's some folks who see uh Jews as um powerful, white, uh educated and oppressing people of color. That is wrong. The Jews have been persecuted their entire year.

Thank you.

The persecution isn't despite the fact that they think we're powerful. The persecution is because they think we're too powerful and we're doing devious things behind the scenes.

But I think it's important to for folks to understand for people to I don't know. I don't know that people

Excuse these people because they're adorable.'Cause like we we went to good colleges.

Who's excusing?

Mm.

Yeah, they really are. There's no condemnation like there was after Charlottesville.

I my God, I even saw what's his name from the mayor of New York condemning it this week. You know how l how much it takes for him to condemn anything?

No, I like him.

You do?

Alex Adams.

Thank you. Yeah, th I think he spends a little too much m time uh, you know, uh having fun and too little time running the city where I spend a lot of time.

I think you gotta have a better balance.

Uh okay. Let me let me ask you about the G seven because that's what's going on right now. It's the big news overseas. Um for those of us who do not want to see Donald Trump re-elected, I would say there's been two big frustrations. Uh one is the Democrats' in inability to get Joe Biden to step aside for some of the

Really? He's the only person who's ever beat Trump.

Oh do I have to listen to this? He Yeah, he well he di okay. Well we'll find out in d we'll find out in November, I guess. We'll find out.

Who's your fantasy candidate?

Well, as James Carble said, any fiftyish centrist Democrat would win walking away.

Listen, today, it like you said, is Donald Trump's seventy eighth birthday. He's seventy eight. The other uh Joe Biden's eighty one. Both of them are running on overtime. But we have a binary choice in America because if you think RFK Junior is a choice, you've got to go check if you've got a worm in your What could have been, what should have been my fantasies this isn't uh you know, this isn't a fantasy football. This is real democracy on the line. Right.

that you're gonna lose.

I don't th I'm listening I'm with you. I'm voting for him even if he's in life support. Right.

But that's for the shoulders. I said it a couple of weeks ago. I said, you know, I don't think it's too late to switch him out before you know, uh before the convention and everybody said, Oh, you know, you're on drugs and this week I see uh

We're probably on truck.

Uh in the Atlantic, uh who was it? I f I forget. Somebody w was on the same page, quoted me calling him Ruth Bader Biden. Oh Mark Liebovich. And then Brett Stevens said the same thing, so I somehow I always go from being on drugs to right in the mainstream in two weeks. But okay. But anyway, I didn't even get to the second part of it. That's my

Thank you.

My first frustration is that. I think they could have done that and they should do that. I should still do that.

What she is, is the only one who's strong on immigration in y in the European Union. And they just had uh the European Parliament, there was vo voters again for the European Parliament said we do not like this much immigration. And calling her a fascist reminded me of what David Frum said, oft quoted, he said, If liberals insist that enforcing borders is a job only fascists will do, then voters will hire fascists to do what liberals won't.

And yet,

of certainly in America. Uh Alex Padilla said last week he is our senator here. Um by reviving Trump's asylum ban, Biden has undermined American values. And then they all stand back and go, we don't want to be called a racist. So we will not make a move on immigration. It's going to get them fucked at election day. It's happening it's happening in Europe right now, that proves it in Europe, and it's going to happen here in America. It happened with Brexit. It's going to happen again. There

I mean if India has far-right populism, it's a very important thing. They have...

Just got rejected. Modi just lost those elections big time.

Yeah, but he's been there for a very long time. Yeah. Um with a lot of anti Muslim hate. And that's it

Yes. That's a whole different kettle of fish.

Well I I think There's a real moral reason that we should let people into this country who are suffering. No.

That's their point.

But but there's a I hate to agree on technicalities. Yes, you need To get reasonable amounts of people here, you need a way to process these people, you may need to make sure that they're safe. But we need immigrants. If we want this, no one in America is

Some immigrants

We need immigrant kicks because they're not protesting in front of the White House.

But you know, I mean even Sixty-four percent of Latinos support giving the president authority to shut down the U.S. border. Uh sixty-two percent of registered voters would deport all migrants living in the U.S. illegally.

Immigrants.

They don't hate immigrants. I don't know.

I'm an immigrant. I am an immigrant. I came fleeing communism in Nicaragua in nineteen eighty. Right. Problem we have right now is that some of the countries that where most of the immigrants are coming from to the border are precisely places like Cuba, like Venezuela, like Nicaragua, and like Haiti, which is bedlam right now. So when there's that type of desperation, people will do crazy things like walk thousands and thousands of miles to the border.

Okay. Gotta rend it there. Thank you guys. Time for new rules.

Nero, now that North Korea has sent balloons filled with excrement into South Korea.

Ha ha ha ha.

True, and South Korea has responded by blasting BTS music into North Korea.

The UN must award this round to South Korea because the excrement that can be used as fertilizer, whereas the BTS, that's just shit.

I kid, I love BTS music. Nural, the police must stop using DNA to catch serial killers. It works so well. America hasn't had a serial killer in years, which sure benefits society now, but what about in a few years when we run out of true crime podcasts?

Thank you.

Then what are white women going to listen to on Power Walk?

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Noural, now that this newly deciphered manuscript has been identified as the earliest known account of Jesus' childhood, we have to find the rest of it because we never get to hear about his childhood. We hear lots about his birth. Lots about his early thirties, but nothing about his days in youth soccer or Or when his voice changed during choir practice, his His awkward yearbook picture and

And most traumatic of all, how he was always being harassed by college students because he was a Jew living in Palestine.

Thank you.

Nero, someone must tell the Nigerian wig maker who created this 12-foot-wide hairpiece that it looks great on you and you can't even tell. All right. Leroy know that municipal workers have no idea how to dispose of this rare seven-foot hoodwinker sunfish that washed the shore on an Oregon beach. I have two questions. Are you sure that's not the new Tesla?

And where's red lobster's oil you can eat when you need it?

And finally, new rule this Father's Day. If you really want to give your father something he'll treasure forever, give him permission to be a dad like dads used to be. And before you start in with, but Bill, what do you know about it? You're not a parent. Yeah. I don't give blowjobs either, but I can tell when someone is doing it wrong.

So no, I don't have kids, but I sit next to yours at restaurants. I see parents in stores kowtowing to brats like their congressmen groveling before Trump. I've seen a seven-year-old ram a shopping cart into someone's coccyx and the parent just shrugs and gives a look like kids. What are you gonna do? Raise them right. That's what you can do.

For as long as I've had a television show, the issue of parents overindulging their children has been a topic of discussion. So it's not like it's new. But it hasn't gotten better either. We were talking about trophy syndrome in 1993, and then it was helicopter pair. And then bulldozer parenting. And now we have gentle parenting, or as it used to be known, negotiating with terrorists.

Thank you.

British author Sarah Ockwell Smith, who coined the term, said, The key here really is thinking, would I like it if someone did this to me? If the answer is no, then why would you do it to your child? Uh because they're a child.

Would I like it if someone stripped me naked and plopped me down in a tub of water? No, but with a kid, that's just bath time.

I keep hearing how parenting is so hard these days. Yeah, because you're making it hard. Gentle parenting. It's like a Taco Bell breakfast. The reason it feels wrong is because it is.

And it's ruining lives on both sides of the equation. Parents, it's ruining your lives because you've made uh made yourselves a butler to a five-year-old. And the kids, because the results are in and all this letting the kids run the show, path of least resistance child rearing, is harming them. The average high school kid today has the same level of anxiety as the average psychiatric patient in the early 1950s.

Exactly.

Almost 10% of college students claim to have PTSD from college. The cradle of safetyism, the home of safe spaces and trigger warnings and policing offensive words? You're not supposed to get PTSD in college. You're supposed to get an STD.

The National Institutes of Health. says that roughly half of teenagers now have a mental health disorder at some point in their lives. Which tells me one thing. The National Institutes of Health is also part of the problem.

Thank you.

The mental health disorder is on the part of the adults, not the children, the adults who forgot that to a child, discipline is love. And that kids need structure and authority. Of course they think they have traumatic stress disorder when they get to college, if before they left the house, they never heard the word no.

Never heard you're wrong. Never heard wait wait. A lot of life is waiting. Yeah. Waiting for your boss to recognize your worth. Waiting for love to bloom. Waiting for your career to take off, waiting for your partner to be finished in the bathroom.

Waiting for your porn to download for

For your vape to charge for the For the drugs to kick in.

For your eyebrows to grow back after you do something stupid on drugs.

Thank you.

It's vital you learn as a kid how much of life is going to be waiting. And boundaries. Jesus, yes, boundaries.

Sex dolls set more boundaries than today's parents.

This is why the traditional dad, the trad dad, needs to make a comeback. Not all the way back to the nineteen fifties psychopath who never said he loved you and hit you with a belt. No. But just back to the dad who believes that because I said so is a perfectly legitimate answer to any question a child may have.

Just back to the dad, who would never say anything as stupid as, my kid is my hero. Or where do you want to eat dinner? One more story and then we really have to start thinking about going to bed, okay? Yeah.

Trad dads don't negotiate. They say you will apologize to your mother. Don't make me turn this car around. Some things just happen because life is unfair. Clean your room. Be quiet, the adults are talking, and it's not all about you.

Mostly a trad dad knows he's your parent, not your friend. Hey buddy isn't in his vocabulary. He isn't your emotional support animal. He's simply a guy who understands the job, to raise an adult who can survive in the wild. There's a long running show T T V show in Japan called Old Enough, where parents send children as young as two on errands by themselves.

And children are constantly tracked like they're the last surviving albino tiger instead of just another white kid named Liam.

But what happens, what always happens when uber liberal bullshit goes too far is it produces a far more damaging counter reaction. In the absence of traditional fathers, teenage boys these days are turning to meathead misogynist influers like Andrew Tate. Ever heard of him? Well your kid has. He's popular with teenage boys because when we don't give them a masculine male role model, they look up to

He's so anti-woman. I don't think he even has a mother. I think he was born when lightning struck a jug of protein powder.

And now he's your teenage son's favorite thinker. Did I mention he's a big Trump fan? So this Father's Day, let's give dear old dad the gift of being dear old dad. And also

And also, shut up. He's trying to watch the game. All right, that's our show. I appreciate the continued support. of what this comedian said will shock you. People are loving it and we are running out of supply. You better order it now. I'll be at the Orpheum Theater in Minneapolis July 13th at Riverside in Milwaukee the 14th in the Cobb Performing Arts Center in Atlanta September 7th. Now go watch overtime on YouTube.

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