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have no reason to promote them. I just wanted to let people know what was happening behind the scenes, which is that I was brutally awakened by a blaring alarm system for hours hours and it was also my birthday two days ago, and I feel fine. Uh, Okay, that that doesn't seem like a statement that we were led to believe. Was that was that convincing? Okay? Cool? Because it was my birthday two days ago and I'm fine.

I mean maybe it's just may being a guy. When you say I'm fine, I automatically think she's not fine. Oh See, it's funny because if you're a guy and a woman says I'm fine, you should automatically think you did something wrong. Yeah, but I don't think I have anything to do with you turning a year older. Oh Wow, that's what it came off of. Right. The firing squad is here, thank you, Dmitri. Well, I I think we're all adult enough to know how birthdays work. Nobody turns

a year younger, nobody freezes. Oh my god, no one turns a year younger. Let's innovate the birthday. Let's start aging in reverse. How do we feel about that? I think it's a good business plan. Yeah, but you're no different than you were the day before, three days ago. So honestly, I'm not one of those people that thinks like birthdays and all of a sudden you think, oh my god, I'm older in my life. Just took this monster leap. It's not a big deal to me. Tri

that's what you think. But I did find one gray hair and I had a funeral for it. Okay, you guys, today we've got out depressing episode. That's that's I'm just gonna start the podcast off with the honest truth. A depressing episode. These cases are not light. We have an NYPD cop fatally stabbed by an estranged husband, and the BRONX and X Amazon Mexico ceo who's wanted in a hundred ninety countries for hiring a hitman to kill his wife.

So everyone's wives are getting murdered on this episode, kind of by themselves. The husbands. A man who raps about robbing ATM machines arrested over a t M robbery, lap my fucking ass off. And then our main case of the day will be Leave No Trace. You know it's streaming on Hulu today. Actually it's a hidden history of the Boy Scouts, and I don't want to touch that with a ten ft marshmallow stick. But here we are

very true. What I would like to say, I'd like to give it this claimer of okay, because we're not the news. Obviously you can read this stuff, and in here in the news, we're not here to strictly just report it. We're gonna give opinions and where we can as sensitively as we can, we try and have a little bit of fun because I think we both believe that when you can laugh somewhere in life, um, it's

what helps you get through the difficult times. So if we do make any comments throughout these stories, we try. We're not mere mean spirited people, but it's not our job to just read these stories like we're the news. So we will try and and have some last one we can, because we both believe that that's where you can, where you can heal and have some fun. So I'm just getting that disclaimer out now, Demitri, I appreciate that.

I mean, the other thing is, if you've been listening to the podcast for a while now, you already know this is true crime with the twist right to grind, with the twist of comedy to alleviate the comfortable situations that we're discussing. Obviously, murders and funny. Obviously death isn't funny. Obviously none of this is funny. But you know, uh, the job of a comedian is to make light of

dark situations, and usually of our own dark situations. But then, you know, you've got comedians who make nine eleven jokes, and you've got comedians to make Holocaust jokes, and you've got comedians who make all types of jokes, you know, dead baby jokes, You've got Anthony Jeselnick. You got it. Go. It spans the history of time, is this is how people deal with trauma. Um. So you know, if you've

made it this far, congratulations to you. All right, our first hot topic for today and New York NYPD cop was fatally stabbed by her estranged husband in the Bronx. She was an off duty cop and there was a trail of blood leading police to her body. She's thirty one years old. Ariana Reyes Gomez was allegedly stabbed multiple times by her former partner, and according to authorities, this was a domestic dispute turned deadly, so to me that triggers.

There was arguing, people could hear it, etcetera. The officer phoned a female relative, who then dialed and sent police to location. When officers arrived around two fifty in the morning, they found blood in the hallway leading to the apartment, and after busting down the door, found her unresponsive. The couple has a child who is not at home at the time, thank god, and was out a state with relatives.

Shortly after the incident, um her a strange husband turned himself in at a neighboring precinct and he was charged with murder, manslaughter, and criminal possession of a weapon. Okay, Dmitri, I'm trying to put myself in the shoes of this officer, and it's interesting to think that she called a relative instead of dialing. Why do you think someone would do that. I think that probably goes to U lends his hand to the character of this of this woman as a

person and not as a police officer. And I'm not saying she's a bad police officer. I think she knows the repercussions of making that call. And I think she was really trying to give the ben at the foot of the doubt to the father of her child, and this and that, and and sadly she she was she was wrong. Um. I think she tried hold on it. She knew if I make that call the nine one one, this is going to have repercussions with him in our

relationship and whether he can see his kid or not. Uh. And I think she tried to go around it, and uh, you know, like I said, unfortunately that did not work. But that's where my head goes. I think she she knew what would happen. She's obviously she's an NYPD. She knows what goes on, she knows what you're supposed to do. She probably knew calling nine when one was the right move, and she would have probably told anyone else to call

nine one one in that situation. But that's where you have that that difficulty of of your job and your personal life and you can't you know, you have a filter that you go through for your personal life. And I think that's probably what happened. It's interesting because my gut instinct was that she called this and and they

wrote in the article was a female relative. I think that my gut instinct was that she called her because maybe she thought this was sort of going to happen, and maybe she wanted to make arrangements for her child, and it was like it didn't matter if she called nine one one then or if she called one two

minutes later. I mean, I also wonder if she was calling a family member because because it is an interesting thing to call a family member before if you feel like you're in immediate danger, so part of me and and as a cop, you think that you know, I don't know. I mean, I wonder if she had a weapon on her. I I wonder if her calling the relative turned it violent. Um you know there, yeah, there's just so many possible ways it could have gone in town.

But it's I mean, it's also interesting because you know, cops have training in self defense and defense and attack, right, so you know, this also leads me to other questions where it's like, obviously, this feels like it possibly was not the first time there had been domestic violence and he was an estranged husband and the cops were saying it was a domestic dispute turned deadly, So possibly this

has happened before. And I just wonder, you know, like what this must have been such a struggle, um, and there must have been a lot of love for this person at some point that you know she chose not to call nine one one first. Yeah, yeah, sadly, Um, I don't know. I mean, I think you're right about that. I think, yeah, maybe she called there because she was

she was making arrangements um or thinking ahead. But I mean, I I like to think, as a train in YPG, if she walked into a situation where there was a this was happening and she was called to the scene, she knew exactly how to handle it. So you're right, she probably had a weapon. She probably she I'm sure has trained in self defense, but for some reason she either wasn't able to utilize that or she chose not to.

And I think that's the question, Like you said in the setup, when you were reading the story, I wonder if other people heard things and what might unfold in this story. Yeah, I'm interested to no more details. I mean, I also wonder if there was a bit of fear behind calling nine one one, or if you know she had done anything wrong or you know, I wonder. I feel like there's more to this story that we're and we're just hearing about the end instead of the beginning

in the middle. Yeah, that's true. There's definitely something. There's definitely a big piece of this missing as to why she didn't call that one of them, and everything you

brought up is is a legitimate case. Maybe there's something that we don't know on her end, and I'm not disparaging her um, but it's possible or there's something in the relationship where there's so there's some reason why an NYPD officer did not call nine one one when their life was in danger, and whatever that reason is, obviously you think had she called, perhaps things could have been differently,

But I don't know. My hope for this case here is that it says that the child was out of out of state with family members, and I hope that that child is with family members. I hope they were out doing something nice because those family members take care of that child and they were out enjoying a vacation or something. And I hope that um, wherever that child ends up now that they're in in in a situation where they can have a loving home. M me too. And I wish this wasn't a back to back situation

of kind of similar stories. But this ex Amazon Mexico's to e O who's wanted in a hundred and ninety countries for hiring a hitman to kill his wife. His name is Juan Carlos Garcia. He hired two hitmen to

kill his estranged wife. The former couple had a history of domestic violence and she filed a restraining order against him, and he was hired as the CEO of Amazon Mexico and the company first opened in at their office in Mexico, and they were separated after his wife filed a lawsuit against him, and during a court hearing in Mexico City, one of the hitmen that was hired by him testified that he offered an additional if his estranged wife was killed before their next court hearing. What a gem up.

According to New York Post, Perez filed for divorce in janu after she accused him of trying to kill her while beating her with a baseball back before her death. She was in Mexico City for scheduled court hearing when a motorcyclist opened fire and fatally shot her while she was in a car with her two children and attorney. The murder trial begins on Monday, and Interpol has issued a warrant for his arrest in hundred ninety countries after he went on the lamb for after his estranged wife's death.

He allegedly escaped Mexico a few days after the murder and entered a checkpoint near Tijuana. After entering the United States, he reportedly sent a letter to the mayor of Mexico City claiming he was innocent. It's really interesting because, I mean, first of all, from our last episode, you know, with our Girls Gone Wild, Guys like people usually go to Mexico to avoid jail. Now he's escaping Mexico to avoid jail. So I've got a lot of questions. If you have

to escape Mexico to avoid jail, you did it. Yeah, yeah, Mexico is not really that likely. Like you said, that's where people go to avoids avoid being held responsible. So if you're running from there, then yeah, you're right. He he did it, and I mean ship like pretty all around pretty bad. He hired he hired hitman. I don't know what the ground rules were with the with the hitman, but how about don't shoot, well, don't do it at all,

but obviously that's what hit men do. Don't shoot when the kids are in the car, And like, what what were the did he have no rules for? This? Is he? That is he that low of a person or these people go just off on their own, but don't you know that that lets us know that it was him because he hired a skilled hitman to just murder one person in a vehicle with multiple other people and it was a very specific person. And the fact that he only offered dred dollars more to kill as a strange one.

I'm like, bro, if I'm a hit man, I'm gonna need way more money than that because I might go to jail for life. Like that's rent for one month. What do you gonna do with that? Or it's like how many people are you killing on average? That there's just like a drop in the bucket, right and you know what, what can we presume, Like I don't know. Obviously we don't know this relationship, but I assume. My My instinct was to say this was what they were separated,

they were strange, they were getting a divorce. This is about he's an Amazon CEO, I Amazon Mexico. It probably has some money, and I'm assuming this has to do with him not wanting to give up money. You know what, I don't know why. I don't know why murdering a spouse is always like the the it seems to these people is the easy go to to get out of having to pay money or having to or so I can get married together, whatever it is. I don't understand how this is always such a such a top shelf

option for these guys. Do you think it was about alimony? I don't know what. What was it about. It's like, it's like, wouldn't you want to make sure that your kids were having a good life? Like I don't, especially if you're a CEO of Amazon like Jeff Asos is writing a spaceship and you know, into two mars. I'm pretty sure that the CEO of Mexico for Amazon's got some enough money to pay for whatever he needs to pay for and his children's life and education. Yeah, well,

I mean, what's so what's the other option? I mean, unless you feared for his children's safety from her, which clearly doesn't make sense because he had someone shoot her while she was in the car with them. So if it was that, then just you know, finally legal proceedings and get custody of the kids. So I really doubt that that was the case. I mean what else. Money is where my mind goes to. Someone has a lot of money, someone's getting divorced, and they don't want to

give up their money. That's what I see. Do you think he'll be found in the US quickly? I mean I think you know what's interesting. I did a quick Google search. It's a hundred nine countries in the world, and he's wanted in a hundred ninety. I'm curious to those other five, like, why don't you why why isn't he wanted in your country? Is it Antarctica? And you're just like, no one really survives here. Yeah, I mean, and if I'm him, then then you got to one

of those five countries. But do I think I'll be found in the US? Uh? Yeah? I mean, I think he's pretty He's got to be pretty, hope, high profile, right, he's the CEO of Amazon Mexico or was. Um, you know, obviously you can really hide out anywhere in the world. But I think if they're really looking for him, then um, they'll find him. You know what. I'm really looking for a statement from our guy, Jeff Bezos. Mm hmm, hey my former higher Yeah, a CEO like this is that's

not a small like I didn't have any interaction. They just you know, he was in the mail room. No, that's a big deal. That is close connections, much like Elizabeth Holmes case, in the Glenn Maxwell case. If this goes to trial, we'll never see it, that's true. No, but he listen if it was Johnny deppan ever heard, we couldn't get away from it. Apparently there might be a third trial for that. Did you know? No, I

did not. Apparently he possibly is able to sue her again because she had an interview after it was all over, and apparently she said someone asked her, so is it is it? Did he lie that he hit you, that he did not hit you? Did he lie that he did not hit you? And she was like, yeah, he hit me, that was a lie, and so Johnny Depp technically has grounds to sue her again. This is classic Hollywood if they're they're potentially making another sequel for something

I didn't really care for the first one. I don't I didn't care for the amount of coverage that this got. And you know what, there I think they both they both had problems. Uh, I just I don't need to see any more of this. It just feels like she keeps auditioning for the same part over and over. I'm like, you know, maybe maybe you know, maybe Hollywood doesn't white woman for this role. You know, I think it's like

it's time to move on, time to move on. Um, you know, I think the last thing that I would do well if I don't know, this is a tough spot. I think everyone's so tired of the Amber Turd story. But I do think that if I was innocent, I would probably still fight for my innocence, but fear another trial because I was already brought down. But maybe if I truly believed in my innocence, I would just go for it no matter what. Then again, if I wasn't

what I doubled down as hard. Yeah. I don't see that that Johnny has anything to um to gain from from going back to court for this. I think um he got basically the result he wanted right from this. He went out and he bought six worth of Indian food and he started partying. And that's it. Like, I don't think he needs to go back because she said

they've already proven that she's lied about stuff. I don't think he needs to go back and be like, she lied about something else and I want to see her again. He's not gonna She doesn't have the money to pay you more, so just take what you can get right now. Oh yeah, yeah, moving on to talking about not having any money. A man who raps about robbing a t M machines arrested over Dana and a t M robbery for people that wrote how to kill your husband and

then when and killed her husband. Yeah, it's pretty great. Actually, Four people, including a Houston music artist who rapped about committing crimes, have been arrested for allegedly robbing an a t M technician in Tennessee. According to the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department, four people were taken into custody after an alleged robbery if a man servicing a Bank of America a TM. It's alleged that two of the defendants approached the victim from behind and told him not to do

anything stupid and hand over the money. One of the alleged robbers is Lattison Riley, who also goes by the rap name wait for It to one three jug God. He recently released the song on YouTube and title make It Home. In this song, Riley alluded to him and other individuals committing crimes. The lyrics described robbing a t M s out of state, having thousands of dollars in their vehicle, praying to a boy, being caught up in

a car chase, and making it home. The four are being charged federally and the FBI is investigating whether they're they committed similar robberies elsewhere. And the other lyrics to their songs were I'm going to jail. Oh no, I'm in jail. And it's weird because now they're going to jail and they're in jail. Oh yeah, I mean listen, we and here we thought we weren't gonna laugh today. This is this guy is a moron. Okay. He wrote a rap song okay, well, I don't know where you

want to start. He wrote a rap song about Robin a t m S. And then he went and robbed at m S. His name is two one three jug God. Name sucks, dude, And then he also tried to rob by saying don't do anything stupid, hand over the money, like classic old school rob He's such a cliche, don't do anything stupid. It's like, and n even have a gun. He probably just had a highlighter that he pressed itself back. You know, I mean this is and and also like

two one three jug God. I mean, my guy, no better indication to me that you were never going to make it as a rapper, so you know, going rapping to robbery, and they sent us his song. Sadly, I watched the video and listened to it. Song sucks, name sucks, and the only thing worse than those are your ability to to rob someone like this guy is shooting zeros across the board. I hope that when he is with women he also shoots blanks, because this guy should not approcreate.

I think I can't believe he's not. Everything he does sucks, So yeah, I bet he's another song that's like I got eighteen baby mamas and no money for the alimony. So that's why I'm robbing this bag. So here's a question. Do you think would they could they use the rap song as in court? It seems like a confession to me. It looks like it's premeditated, is it not. Yeah, whether it's a confession or not, it's definitely something that was

on his mind. Right, And you know what they say about music, right, They say, if you feel so strongly about something that there are no words left and there's so much emotion behind it, that you must sing it. That is how you know when it is real. That's that's what the US teaches in musical theater. When you went from speaking to singing, it's like there's just no words left to describe it, so you have to sing because you're so emotional. I've never heard that before, but

that might make me appreciate musicals a little bit more. Oh, how dare you? I'm going to New York next week and I'm going to cry myself a river and every Broadway show listen I love? I do, actually do. I love Broadway. I love certain musicals, but it's always interesting when they just burst into song, but that that I had never heard that before. What I can tell you what I know about music is that just because you

rhyme doesn't make you a rapper. This guy will. I think the only thing that made it better was that he actually followed through on it. I will tell you this though, If you do the rhyme, you committed the crime. Little Johnny you Oh my god, speaking of Johnny conkering. Uh, I just want to go back to Johnny Depp for a second. It's so weird because right after he won, you know, you heard about him that spending six d can Indian food and then you know, celebrating, he released

a song about my cousin. About your cousin, Hetty Lamar is your cousin. Yeah, we never talked about this. She's like a distant cousin. But um, it was just so odd. I was like, why why do I now feel connected to Johnny Depp? Well, I mean it's not bad, no, no, but you know he's doing the rhyme, so he commit

at the crime. I guess. But what you said before, and I put this on social media at one point, so he went out and bought six K where the Indian food it's now I understand why she was shipping in the bed like it's kind of like, that's kind of outrageous. Yeah, I hope they had more than one bathroom in that home, or you know, maybe they didn't. He was in the bathroom and she just couldn't wait, or she just didn't care to use it. Look. Oh wait, no,

it was the dog. It was the dog. It was It was one of the multiple tiny dogs that could never have pooped that size. Maybe they ate so much Indian food, the dogs they shipped so much that it was the size of their own bodies. You know, that's happened to me. No, no, no, we're good. We're good. Were good. That's one time when I was in Peru. No, no, we're good, and everyone had to be already Okay, there are not enough bathrooms when multiple people have I will

just tell you, what what do you do? So you just met, you just met this, you have, as people know by now, you have a new boyfriend. What do you do? What would happened when you went there and you stayed with him and you had to go to the bathroom. I'll use the listen, let's just be honest with each other. This is what's happening or are you like, Oh, I have to go down to the lobby to get

something from the store. I'm about to pull up something that will explain basically our entire relationship in in one fell swoop. So he sent me an e card on my birthday and uh, this is what it says. Remember when you used to hold your farts in dot dot dot. I missed that. So it's only been a month and

a half and I'm pretty sure we're married at this point. Um. But basically the last time we were together, we were in London and I was in the bathroom and you know, we're two Jews and in eating lots of bad food. So we were like like passing the Tom's bottle back and forth, and we were bringing the pepto with us every I was like, if Pepto Bismol doesn't sponsor me, I'll be shocked, shocked. They're in every post everything sponsor we get now. Yeah, And then so I sent him

a text message from the bathroom. That's it. I need you to leave the bedroom and go into the other room right now. And uh, right as I sent it it, just like an explosive fart came out and I hear him like laughing outside the door, and I was like, Na, why does this make me so uncomfortable? It doesn't even follow me, you know. It was like before music on

and turn the water on. That's what girls do. If you're in the bed with a guy that you just started dating and you have to make an emergency fart or a poop, you go into the bathroom, You light a candle, you blast the music, you put the water on. Everyone knows what's happening, but it just makes us feel

better for some reason. Oh you you can't because if you're going number one because the music on, No, But you'd rather hear the music and the and the sound the water and know what's happening, then actually hear what's happening, right, Because if you knew what was actually happening, which is I'm casting a spell for you to love me forever instead of farting, I don't think. I think I think you missed up your spells. Um, listen, everybody does it.

There's nothing wrong with it. But I think the the actually hearing it as opposed to knowing that it happens are two different things. Um, I'm glad so did you before we went in there. Did you say, hold on, I'm slipping into something more uncomfortable. Uh no. But when I came out, I said, do not go in there, perfect and he said, he said, I have to shower. Um, I think he loves me. Wait, well, there are you guys still talking? You Dmitri? No, I'm just if if

you're then yes, he does love you. At nine am on my birthday, he had a gluten free cake sent to my door. That's really sweet. I mean, I love that he's trying to give you food that won't upset your stomach. But then the other thing, apparently he emailed this cake shop at midnight Los Angeles time. He's in London, so you know he forgot the time difference, and they send him an email back that said, if you want to order a cake from us, please order it at

a more so couple hour. That's how insane l A is is that they're like, I'm sorry, you didn't do something the way I wanted you to do it, so I don't even want your money. Then it's not like he called them and woke them up at at home and it was in the email. Just respond when you wake up. Yeah, and it's I'm ordering something. You have a business. I'm ordering something and saying can you send

it during your hours of operation? He wasn't like, Yo, get out of bed, it's my girlfriend's birthday and make a cake. No, it's so it's out of it because we already have won bad experience. It's so insane because it's like, uh, no one wants to work in l a that they would literally rather reject incoming business. Yeah, it's like it's wild you own a bakery. If you don't want to work, you can start a podcast. Hilarious and thank you so much too. On three jug God,

I can't. I wish you could write a song about I also just want to let you know that when we were talking about these two stories the last two um and hearing someone kind of get approached from behind, this happened to me in London. I'm not comfortable with this segment, but go ahead. We went boyfriends and then

go ahead, okay. Um. I hadn't posted on my Instagram story like twenty four hours and they my ex pulled me from behind and tackled me to the ground and said I found you, bitch, um in a playful manner. I mean, as playful as that can be. The thing that's so upsetting is that I didn't even scream. I just knew intuitively it was him, and I I just said, okay, now, okay, I guess we're gonna need some details on this. How

did we leave off in this relationship? And was this like I've been looking for you when I found you, bitch? Or oh my gosh, look at us. We're both in London. How crazy is this? I mean he was also in London for work apparently, Um was that work to find you? And a real job? You know? It's a pretty crazy His friend filmed it and they sent it to me so I can commemorate that moment forever. Oh wonderful. So what happened then? So obviously you didn't hurt yourself. It

was a playful takedown. It was as playful as a takedown tackle to the street as you can get. Were you by yourself? And then I just continued on my marriedway to lunch after being accosted in a foreign country. But um, yeah, it's funny how people don't think things through and it's like, Okay, here's a woman by herself in a foreign country. I'm gonna go and like, I'm just gonna go up and surprise her and grab her

from behind, like some people don't really think that. I was in a farmer's market one time with my kids and my son was small, and one of my buddies saw me, but I didn't see him, and so he happened to walk up and as you know, as a hello, and like a surprise, he picked up my son. And I mean, it's luckily I turned quick and I saw

who it was. It was fun, but my instinct was to just haul off on this guy, so that very well could have ended in me just punching him in the face, because when you're out in public and someone picks up your son, you freak out. Yep, yep. I think it says a lot more about me than it says about him. That I was just like, well, here we go. I've got a true grime podcast. I've been

waiting for it. Yeah, I was like, I honestly like, I think it was almost disheartening to him that I didn't scream, because I was like, man, it's almost like a not again. All right, how many times do I need to get tackled by next today? You know? Um? Yeah, it was odd. He also told me that he'd been they've been following me for a couple of blocks. Okay, great, So anyway, why is this guy your EXE? So anyway, I go to WIT A protection program, and it has

been so nice having a podcast with you. I will now be um Henrietta Maguilla Cutty, and I'll probably living in Nebraska, so you can't share that info. That's the whole point. Oh shoot, okay, so I'm going back into the Witness Protection oram um. Sorry, c I A. If you could just give me another so scary number and identity and New States Live and thank you so much, that would be great. Sorry if you just decided to like change your name and all that kind of stuff.

But you just went about doing everything you're doing. So you performed as Henrietta, but it was you, and we're like, hey, welcome back to real time crime. This is Henrietta, and and where I am in the world is none of your seeing business. I just have the same backdrop. No one really knows if I've actually left my apartment in

l A or just brought it with me somewhere. Anyway, you guys, it's time to go to a quick little break and as I always say, don't touch that dial, and you always say, don't commit any crimes in the next thirty seconds. Yeah, but if you have to, I get it. Just don't make them like in Hence once. If it's a petty crime, like you still post it. You know, sometimes you got to write a memo down. Yeah, but don't write a rap song about it. Oh no, it's two and three. Drug out already took that, so

be original. Think of something else to do. I'm going to spend the next the break think about how stupid a song and name that is. Okay, all right, we'll be right back you guys. Sorry about Dmitrie and we're back. Hello everyone, Welcome to your favorite true crime podcast, your True Crime with a Twist Podcast. Because I didn't really know any other podcast that are making jokes about people's misfortunes, we should just rebrand this to shot him Freud the podcast. Yeah,

I mean, listen, it's all about the segue. Somehow we went from multiple murders to a shitty rap song to you going in the bathroom next year, boyfriend, and and then getting tackled by my acts. Don't forget that really important part. It seems like you already chose to like that's this was me on the street. The only difference this is not dead. I just pointing to a chalk outline, yes, talk outline of a person on the floor. Boy boy, is my life interesting? Okay? So you guys our story

for the main case for today? What's um? Have you ever noticed that sometimes there are things wrong with me and sometimes I'm fine? When would I have noticed that this podcast is now being called Leah is building one brick to the path to hell every episode. All right, So I'm sure this is no mystery to anyone. We all know the Boy Scouts of America. I have had some trouble for many years now. So there is a a new dock out called Leave No Trace, Hidden History

of the Boy Scouts. Oh boy, um, So the Boy Scouts America had a stunning fall as they are now set to make tons of payouts to one of the largest sexual abuse settlements in US history. The doc is exploring allegations made by thousands of former Boy Scouts, like John Humphrey, who joined his trip in nineteen or twelve years old. He said he suffered abuse at the hands of his Scout master for three years. He buried the trauma for decades and did not break the silence until

he was fifty five. I also just want to say before I go more into this, like abuse survivors is a sort of common, right, Like what happened with the Michael Jackson documentary. It's sometimes they just buried the trauma and you're too young to really process it. And and if you don't get help, or you don't know to ask for help, or you don't even really understand what's going on. This is just this is not unusual. It's not unusual, and it's often these times, are you know?

These programs are set up to like help kids, right, And it's not like these people just that's why they say things about grooming and stuff like that. It's not like these people just go in and abuse somebody. They groom them, They tell them, hey, don't do this, or you don't want to tell anybody this, or or you know, and they set up these things that make the kids scared to tell anybody. So of course they then suppress it and they carry it with them for their entire lives.

Same thing that happened with the church. Yeah, it's it's almost Yeah, it's any abuse allegations like we we had that case just a couple of weeks ago where the woman came forward much later and that you know, it's like this just happens, okay, since it's not unusual, and it looks like the journey of the hundred and fifteen year old organization and their financial history, their financial future and the litigation that they're still in the middle of

right now, will be investigating this documentary. The hulu A doc reveals how the Ones Revered Organization obviously had a major fault from Grace, so apparently the organization has been maintaining files on ineligible volunteers since the nineteen twenties. The Red List, as it was called, was mistaken as an

effort to root out communists rather than child molesters. Dude, I would rather have a communist hang out with my kids in the woods and be like everyone gets one marshmallow just because you're richer, Timmy doesn't mean you get to and Johnny gets one. You know, I would rather it was like a communism for dummies. You really broke that down by the thank you. I would rather my

child hanging out with a communist than child molester. Okay, sorry, continuing on, Um, they've dealt with abusers internally through probation program and it afforded them second chances, So why don't we why don't we say that again? Okay, they dealt with the abusers internally. Never works because that's just covering it up. You're covering it up. Don't give him a second chance in an in an organization that deals with children. Yeah, no,

that's it. It's common sense that that's it. Like when it comes to especially children especially, you get one chance, like there's no second chance. Mm hmm. I speak as someone who is not yet a parent and cannot keep a plant alive, and um, this is still the most obvious thing in the entire world to me. Yeah, no, it's it's it's insane. And obviously I am a parent, and it's like this type of ship like organizations that were set up to quote unquote help children and then

or to help the parents. You know, maybe a lot of these people, they could be single moms or single dads trying to find something for their kid and help, you know, they say it takes a village. I want someone to help, you know, with my son, and and it's like, and this is what's going on, Like that's fucking insane. And so apparently the film shows how some of the big non are still dealing with trauma of

their abuse. I'm sure right. And as an organization, with the help of donations and tax breaks, they grew bigger and richer and acquired vast tracts of land, and that attracted more sexual predators. And it's interesting because their values we're on patriotism, courage, self reliance, and kindred virtues. Sorry, but I guess I don't know what a virtue is.

Then if this is what these people are doing, Okay, So what's happening is in the Boy Scouts America filed for bankruptcy with more than eighty two thousand former members filing abuse claims. Two thousand thousands young boys are filing claims. That's not that's not a leak in your in your pipeline, disaster of a program. There's there's the size of a city. The national organization is preparing to pay more than two point seven billion to victims. It would be the largest

ex abuse to pay out in American history. And they're saying we're heartbroken and outraged and sincerely apologize to anyone who was harmed during their time and scouting. That's what they post online. It's like, yeah, were you, because then why were you giving these people second chances? Sounds very well written, um, but you know, are we hearing from the people that gave these people second chances? Now that

that's not where that statement is coming from. That maybe that statements coming from someone in the organization that didn't know, or someone that came on later, or or someone that's just writing it. I mean, it's obviously huge organization, but I don't know, like eight two thousand and I don't know how many people have gone through the Boy Scouts of America. I'd be curious to see the numbers of

how many members they've ever had. Doesn't make it right, not justifying any of this, but that's either a well crafted and I'm using air quotes on this for a well crafted um PR line. But it's like, no, once you give someone a set can chance, and once you the first time you heard something happened right, that person doesn't get a second chance. And then you now have other stipulations in other ways that you have to put people screenings things to get these the people that are

in charge of these things. You have to change everything right away on that first thing. Now, let me turn the butter a little more. I don't know why I said that, let me let me turn the page because wait till you hear this next thing. That will make you realize that we don't really have empathy for the air quotes of their quote unquote heartbroken and outraged nous. Okay, because by the time the rolled around, the boy Scouts were being sued regularly over the unwanted sexual attentions visited

on scouts by scout masters ago. So I don't know how forty years later they're like, oh no, we're so heartbroken and outraged. You should have been heartbroken and outraged over forty years ago. And also, you know, it was like two point seven billion. Wow, that's huge. Like but this guy, he didn't say anything until he was fifty five.

His entire life was ruined by that. So yeah, you know what, you do need to suffer, and you do need to make payouts, but the payoffs doesn't change the fact that these people's, these these guys lives were ruined, ruined, absolutely ruined. I mean so, by the way, if you're interested in watching this. It's called Leave No Trace. It's gonna be streaming on Hulu, and it's in theaters in New York in l A now today. But I mean, okay, So I was in Girl Scouts, and I will say

we had a very questionable Scout leader. I even as a kid remember thinking something's not right here. But nothing bad happened to me. Um. I don't know if anything bad happened to anyone else, but I do remember it being odd. And the Scout leader was someone who didn't have children of her own. And I remember why I found that out or how I found that out. I just remember being something that I was told as a child. Um. I think I went on like one retreat in the

woods and never went again. Yeah, it's funny. I was. I went to one boy Scout meeting. One I actually got kicked in the nuts and I decided I wasn't going back, but you know what, thank God, but just by another kid. Um. But I also, oddly enough, I was the youngest of five kids, and um, I once went to a Brownies. You meant Brownies is like the younger girl Scouts, Is that right? I think I once my sister once had to take me to a Brownies

because she was babysitting. Made so I went to equal on a Brownies as I did Boy Scouts, and neither really worked out for me. But um, this is this is the thing. These are the programs that are supposed to I want to thank my sister for taking good care of me. Um, these are the programs that are supposed to help, Like I said, maybe single parents, maybe not, maybe just you know, parents that want something better for their kids and they don't even realize what was happening.

And the you know what, a lot more has to come down on these things. You can't for forty years forty years plus and and financial payouts whatever you know, you know, and and maybe the Boy Scouts shuts down probably should because it certainly wasn't handled right, or it's got to be completely revamped into something else. But I don't know, it's you know, I don't know if I want to watch this, but I have this thing where I want to know stuff because it makes me more

aware of stuff that goes on. So I do watch these things, and I do listen to these things, and I do read these stories, but it's heartbreaking to to also see them see that's what you think. But then how many murder docs have I watched? And yet when I was tackled to the ground, had no reaction. The other thing is like I didn't need to know. How is this going to affect me getting Girl Scout cookies? I think you're fine. I think girls got cookies are fine.

We're in the clear. Yeah, all right, never mind, anyway back to our regular scheduled program. No, are you still gonna get your snacks? My thin mins? Thank god? Um okay, But I think the idea of boy Scouts is great. You know, they're teaching kids survival skills. They're teaching kids supposedly you know, about honor and and leadership and brotherhood

and these are all important qualities as childs. And you're actually doing that, yes, and not reminding your lesson and an outdoor you know, wilderness skills and these are also things. I think it's ways for young men to connect to the earth and um understand, just just to be in nature, right especially I mean, like I said, I don't have kids, I know you, but to disconnect from cell phones and tablets and iPads and all this sort of gaming, all this technology that they have and just be in nature

and kind of appreciate life for what it is. I think it's really important, but I'll just take my kids camping. You know, I'm good. Thank you. In theory, it's it's a it's a real it's it's a great idea for a program. But nothing is good if you don't run it right. And if you don't you know, all this stuff makes me like sometimes people like, oh, I can take your kid if you want if you can't drive most most of the time, and it's no offense to

the people that offer that are good people. Most of the time, it's no And I have to constantly have conversations with my kids. That's like if anybody ever says, don't tell your mom or don't tell your dad, or let's just keep this between us, the what's the first thing that you do, and they'll like tell you, I'm like right, because that's how this ship goes. And it's disgusting and it's sad that that that people don't know better.

It's like they're teaching what you say, they're teaching how to be independent and how to survive, and you know what someone needed to teach them how to fend off a fucking perfect. Yeah, it's interesting because this went on for so long before they were taken down, And you know, I think this goes to show the like, if you've got money, throw money at the problem, make it go away until it camp go away anymore, you know. And

we see this time and time again. Same thing with Joe from Girls Gone Wild, same thing with um Epstein and Epstein Island. Right, Like, this was going on for a long time and just kinda n d a's payouts, all this sort of stuff until all of a sudden it boils to ahead many many many years later, and then it's, oh my gosh, is a statement like oh, we're horrified by what was going No, you're not, because you're not cover ups. Listen, cover ups only make things worse.

The Church, the Voice, Scouts, whatever it may be. I mean, look, a two thousand people, that's not eight people. And even if it was a people, that's too many. But eat people in an entire organization that's nationwide. I could be like, Okay, maybe this organization can continue on eight two people. No, they don't have a chance, Like this is third chance, poor chance Christians. This is an organization that doesn't have any system in place to make sure that sexual predators, pedophiles,

members of man blah aren't involved in their organization. And they don't care. That's that's what it says to me, is they don't care about And it's like what are they doing with the money? Like who's who's who are these people at the top? Who are does Like muahaha, I'm sitting on my pile of boy scout riches. Let's give this guy a probation. Listen, sexual offenses and especially towards children, are not an in house thing to deal with. You don't deal with them in house. You don't do probation,

You don't give some in a second chance. What it is is, hey, when you get out of you know, the court ordered jail time that you're going to serve, find a new career that has nothing to do with children.

You Know. It's interesting because building a financial empire off of and like a wilderness campus actually kind of genius, right, because you don't have to pay for hotels, you don't have to pay for like the amount of money that it's almost like it's a stand up right, Like when you hire a band to play or you go to a musical, it's like there's so many people involved, they're so um, they're sets, their scenery, there's you know this like big sound check. They mean lots of equipment and

prep time. When it's a stand up comedian's just a microphone, a chair and you know, a stool, and and so for venues, it's they of course they want to host comedians because it costs them so much less money and there's less overhead. And so now I see why it was so easy for them to build such a financial empire because they had such a small overhead compared to lots of other programs like sleepwag camps and all this other stuff. Right, it's like, oh, what you're paying for

marshmallows in a tent? Right? And it's so crazy to see that the greediness of these people was taken so far that they just denied and paid out victims of sexual abuse by the leaders of their organization. Anyway, I'm disgusted with them and think that they should be shut down. Yeah, I don't know if we have more to talk about with this. It's just like it's it feels like such an open and shut case in my opinion, Yeah, it is.

It's an open and shut case. And like I said before, there's no there's no second chances in that kind of behavior. And you know what, and unfortunately you wish oh I don't know, I was gonna say, unfortunately wish people would speak up more. That's a very difficult thing to do and a very difficult thing to say. I give extreme um props to the people that have the courage to

do that. And you know, and it's even heartbreaking more when they do that in there, you know, they're not believed, or they're or they're shut you know, hushed or whatever. So yeah, I agree the whole thing. I have no problem. You ran it wrong for decades, you heard a lot of people. I'm fine, shut it down. Yeah. I mean that's the other thing too, is so many times people who come forward or not believed, or it's not taken seriously, or they're treated so poorly that they're like why would

I even come forward? You know, and they just deal with it. Uh. Iould like to be a lawyer that has to defend that group and be like, no, well this person is making it up. If you really don't believe that, then you shouldn't. You shouldn't even I have a problem with with lawyers that like defense lawyers that have to like slander someone when they know pretty well that that person is telling the truth. I had a

friend who was sexually assaulted. The R word that's triggering for some people, as I'm trying to avoid using it. And then she went to the hospital for an ar kid and they said where did it happen? And she told them and they said, you have to go to a hospital that's in the city located where it happened.

It's like, why would you even bother? You know, It's like if these people are not even to take it seriously or are just going to push you away, or it's like why add insults injury at this point, it's just disgusting. Anyway, I wanted to not end this on a sad note, so I'll just say, um, Dmitri, Yeah, Dmitri. If if you had a rap career, what do you think your user name would be on YouTube? I would not would I'm not a rapper. I don't know that I would have a rap Do you think it would

be deep deep aps? Yeah? Probably something like that with a Z or dollar sign. No, I wouldn't do the the plural like the paps, because I think it would be confused with like papsmere. Yeah. I that's immediately what I thought, And I was like, oh, I don't know of Dmitri has kind of college vibes, but maybe I think I would just do it. Give it like some random Twitter name might be like d pap seven eight four six given nine paps mars. That was my pin code? Can we cut that out? Ha ha, Yeah, it's your

pin um. I entered my pin incorrectly three times yesterday and my bank was like, are you sure that was you? And I was like, yes, I'm just an idiot. Yeah, I'm the king of forgot my password clicks. If I was a rapper, I think i'd go by um, I go by a little little joke. Girl. I think it's safe to say neither of us are gonna have rap careers. Yeah, it's our rap creers are over. And if you think that your rap career is just starting, leave us a voicemail.

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