Hello everyone, and welcome back to another episode of Real Time Crime. I'm one of your hosts, Leah Lamar, and today I have with me my wonderful co host. Excuse me why I take a sip of water, have some nuts. I'm not looking at the zoom. Otherwise I would have just kept talking. But wow, that happened, and that was sometimes Dmitri. Hello, social suits, welcome back. We're happy to be here. Today. We're gonna be discussing the Drako the Ruler murder. Ali Ga, why did I do that? I'm
We're you know, Teddy. I gotta be honest. You really set the bar high today. I like to really come in hot. Yeah. We'll also be discussing allegations against Chris No and then a truck driver receiving a d and ten years in prison because a hundred wasn't enough. So beyond it's it's unbelievable. All right, Well, let's dig in. I think we should start with Chris. Know we're about to talk about something that is potentially very triggering for
a large group of people. So if the R word is triggering to you, I would skip ahead probably twenty minutes and anything having to do with sexual assault or abuse. So this is an pending crime. No criminal activity has been uh stated yet per se that is correct. Nothing nothing has there's no UM. I don't know what am I saying. I don't know, but I do know that
he used to live in my building, my old apartment building. Yeah, and it was like in the height of him, you know, being on sex in the city and when like would have screening parties and we would all drink and called down to the front desk and asked to be connected to his apartment and he um, he never never, he didn't. He didn't want to come and pick up some babes. That's so odd. We'd be like, hey, it's take from
blot o to house. No, yep, that's my experience. So did you ever witness him bringing lots of different women into his apartment? I actually never saw him was another human my entire time living there. Like he was always by himself. This is you know, obviously way pre pandemic. But we'd see him at the pool, we'd see him whatever, and he was always by himself. However, now, what are they up to? Three slash four women? It's three slash
four And for everyone who's unaware of Christnas. He's a actor known for his roles in NYPD Detective Mike Logan on Lawn or Order for five years. He was big on Sex in the City. I think that's his most notable role for six years, and Peter Floric on The Good Wife for seven years. So as of North stars in the revival of The Equalizer which was on CBS, and he appears and just like that, which is the
revival of Sex in the City on HBO. And obviously I'm not gonna give any spoilers, but I'm sure a lot of you already know what has happened in that show thus far with him. And we do know that the ladies of Sex in the City have come forward to stand with anyone who may have been assaulted. We don't know whether or not the assaults are true, yet I tend to believe women. And so before I put my two cents on it, does anyone have anything else
they want to say? No? I mean I think that even though these alleged crimes happened so long ago, people were swift to act on this afterwards. I mean, Peloton did an ad that was maybe up what was it a day m hm? With him and Ryan Reynolds that they pulled immediately. UM, And I know all the allegations came out pretty much right after the premiere of and just like that on HBO. Correct. So two women came forward and then a third woman just came forward. Go on, Teddy, sorry,
now you go ahead. I was gonna say. One of the alleged victims, who a lot of them are using monikers at the moment, Her name is Zoe. She did a Hollywood Reporter profile and it said that Um, the actor, allegedly raped her from behind in two four after they met at a high profile l A event. And then a second woman, also a moniker, named Lily, accused him
of misconduct as well. She said that they met in the New York City nightclub in and then she said that the actor invited her back to his apartment after a night of drinking and allegedly also Um had sexual conduct that was non consensual. And then one day later, a third alleged victim came forward, telling The Daily Beast that she was sexually assaulted by him while working as a hostess and lounge singer in New York's at De
Marino Restaurant when she was just eighteen. Sonath has been denying all the claims, saying that everything against him is completely false and that the stories are all untrue, and he is restating that no always means Now, I think he said that all the the all those things were consensual except one. He's I think he even said he doesn't know who that person is. Yeah, he said he's he's never even heard of his third accuser. And do we believe that, Well, there are people that definitely do.
I mean, he's already been dropped by a three arts agency. His twelve million dollar deal to buy his tequila brand was also canceled. Um, which is fine because I don't need a Chris No tequila is enough. I mean that would be that would be like Cosby coming out with a sleeping peel like we're good. Yeah, well now that you do say that, um, Cosby, there is a tie in because Chris Not used to be tied to Beverly Johnson.
And since all of these allegations came out, then all these national enquir and old reports came forward from Beverly Johnson, who also was one of the first people to come out against Cosby. And then there was even another person. I don't want to involve just another person that I don't know, but there was another person involved that she also accused uh trying to kill her, like she said
with Chris Oath, which this is a lot. It was interesting because apparently the first two women both tried to um bring the story to light at separate times before this, and both of them also said, well, they were like, we don't know how or where to connect with other survivors. And it's interesting because it's usually what we've seen in the Me Too movement is that it's usually never just
one person is sexually assaulted by someone. It's usually that they have assaulted many people, and and then and then how do you connect with each other unless the story breaks? And how do you exactly like, how do you get the attention? I mean because I was I was on
a group chext with my girlfriends. We just because we all watched sex in the City together, you know, and we're like we want you know, as your childhood, like watch as a and you want to believe that big is innocent, but then you also want to believe women Like one of the questions that I had for them is like, I I'm confused why somebody would go to the Hollywood Reporter to share this and somebody's like, teddy dah, it's because they've already tried other avenues and it hasn't
gone anywhere for them to get that. I thought it was interesting that both women said that they were raped from behind by him, and that they didn't speak with each other about it, and that two different people went to the Hollywood Reporter without knowing about the other about the other. My philosophy is too in this sense, like you said, is to always believe the women and um, you know, and that's that's just the way you I
think you have to start. And if, by chance, if something comes down the pike that shows that that was false where they were innocent, then an apologies due. But I don't think you can come out and just defend a guy because he was on a show or whatever it is. And that's why I thought you guys you
mentioned it. But I thought the three girls from in the City releasing a joint statement was was kind of a big deal because I'm sure people wanted to know what they thought, and they seemed to have taken that that same thing. Did you guys have it? Do you want to read it or I have it here if you want, but go ahead to Cynthia next and Sarah, Jessica Parker and Chris and David said, we are deeply
saddened to hear the allegations against Chris Knows. We support the women who have come forward and shared their painful experiences. We know it must be a very difficult thing to do, and we commend them for it. So it seems they're taking that path as well. It's interesting because I was reading about the second woman who came forward and she said that she said no repeatedly, it was very painful, and there was blood on her shirt. There was blood on her shirt, and she said, you have a wife
and a daughter, and that Chris allegedly said monogamy isn't real. Uh, I mean, and I mean a rumor has I mean, who knows, but that his wife has moved out. So if that's the case, or they've split up or whatever it may be. But if that is the case, she is Also It's interesting because I I can't imagine sticking by someone who's being accused of sexual assault. Yeah, but
I also know relationships are complicated. I don't know. I mean this has just been happening in Hollywood over the last four years, and it's very interesting to see the relationship dynamic that come after someone has been accused of
sexual assaults. I don't know. I mean, I think even when Beverly Johnson when the when the cops were called and he was brought in and she decided not to press charges with what was written up was that she didn't press charges because she saw the good side in him, which I think is you know, can be common and what happens when you're being abused or raped or in some sort of domestic violent situation, and it's just scary.
And it also it makes me think about some of the situation the decisions that I made when I was younger that weren't the smartest decisions and that could have ended much worse. I mean, I there was a time, like I mean, not to make this ever about me, but like that was, you know, twenty years old, went to a nightclub met an actor was in awe by
the whole situation. He was with another actor. They were both you know, names that we were aware of, and they were like, you want to come to an after party at our house and get there and after parties, just me and my friend, and they never forced us to do anything, but they made it very clear why we were there. And you have all these things like the next day waking up and being like, I really
put myself in a dangerous situation. Why because I thought this guy was cool or he was famous or what you know, Like yeah, and luckily they weren't the type that that forced anything. But that same situation happens to people, and and it doesn't end like that. I do think that, you know, when it comes to abuse, if you're in a cycle of abuse, you tend to try to make yourself feel better about it. It's like, oh, well, it
could be worse. He could have X, Y Z. At least I don't have any bruises on my body, you know, at least he didn't hit me. At least he didn't. And it's like that becomes a very slippery slope. But yeah, I think I think I always tend to believe women. Of course, in a lot of me two cases, I think there were some where the line isn't as clear, and these seem like very clear allegations. But again it's not a crime yet. There has been no um at
court date, there's no charges. So right now all we have our allegations and I guess we'll see how it all plays out. And you know, we're thinking about all the people that have been affected in this, from the women that potentially are allegedly were affected to also his kid, his child, his wife. You know, it's interesting because a lot of the women also discussed how they were enamored because it was the height of sex in the city and it it oh my god, it's Mr Big, you know.
And he used to leave voicemails on one of the women's phones and even her boss would listen to them, and I could see that being very intoxicating. And and I don't mean this in a negative way, but you know, I think some people do get really star struck. Yeah, no one's to blame for that, you know, it's it
just happens. Um. I just think that, you know, when you're a man in a position of power, when you take advantage of women knowingly because of that, that's this is what ultimately is allegedly a predator, which is which is obviously it's not this is not good that any of us happened, but if there's something good to come from it, is to that we would like we said, we don't know that this is this is supposedly like
it's a crime yet, right, It's still evolving. But the fact of the matter is it's still stuff that people can learn from and they can say. People can hear this story and think, Okay, well, I shouldn't just trust someone because they're on my TV. Yeah, I shouldn't just go to somebody's apartment because I recognize them from a show or because I'm enamored by the fact that they're famous.
It doesn't make them good people. Can we tack on executive producers and agents and managers and studio network and and any CEO and presidents. I just wanted to add a couple other names the list. Ah wow, this is this is nice and depressing to start well, I also do want to say for any ladies who might have the question of, well, how am I supposed to safely meet up with people? How do I weed people out?
Something that I've learned through trial and error is I always make it clear that it's not a date ahead of time, so if anything gets uncomfortable, Um, it was already clear in text that I'm just there for business, and I leave when I get uncomfortable. And then the other thing is I usually ask ahead of time when someone asks to meet me what's the agenda? I want to know why they want to meet up with me.
And I learned that from Barbara Corkran, who is incredible. Um, if you guys ever watched Shark Tank, Barbara's so sharp and she really has a shark. She's incredible, and she's
always ask what's the agenda? Because my time is too valuable and too precious to just meet up with a random guy because he has a crush on me and he was too insecure to actually ask him on a date because he thought I would say no. So, ladies, never get yourself in the situation where you've got a bait and switch where you think you're going to talk about business, but it turns out to be a date and never fun. Never fun, So always ask what's on
the agenda? Very good advice. Uh, And shall we take a break and come back with the other stuffy, Let's take a little break. I love a break for us the RB and we're back from our real time crime. Hello crime heads. We still never really figured out a name for everyone? Did we think social sluts was fun. I like sexy sluts. I don't know after what topic we just discussed that sexy sluts is an appropriate name for I'm gonna I'm gonna backtrack. I'm gonna backtrack. Let's go. Yeah,
crime heads, I don't know, Okay, moving on. So I think it's time to discuss our truck driver who killed four people and was sentenced to a hundred and ten years in prison. Do you want to take this one? Okay? First pronounced the name for me, so I don't mess it up. Is it? Ro Hell Aguilera Maderas is the driver who crashed an out of control semi truck and
just stop traffic in two thousand nineteen. He was He was twenty three years old at the time, past one of Colorado's runway truck ramp after losing the brakes on his commercial via goal as he descended onto this I seventy. He killed four people and injured several others. The crash damaged or destroyed twenty eight vehicles. He was convicted of twenty seven counts, including vehicular homicide. A judge in Jefferson County sentenced him to one and ten years in prisons.
Four counts of vehicular homicides, six counts of assault in the first degree extreme indifference, ten counts of attempt to commit assault in the first degree, two counts of vehicle two counts of vehicular assault reckless one count of reckless driving,
four counts of careless driving causing death. Since this happened, since he was sentenced to the hundred and ten years, more than four million people have signed a petition on change dot org asking the governor Jared Paulis to grant clemency or commute truck driver rogals prison, sitnals so and o J walks free it. Here's the thing. Obviously there were mistakes made. However, he wasn't texting, he wasn't drinking,
he wasn't on drugs. This is all confirmed. A hundred and a hundred and ten years for a twenty three year old man who has a child, who was not doing anything to like alter his driving ability. It is obscene to me. I think also the fact that both sides agree that his breaks went out. It's like this person is not at fault. He did make some mistakes, which is which is why they gave him a hundred and ten years, and apparently in Colorado, you can't do
concurrent sentences. They have to be consecutive, which is why it's a hundred and ten years. And I guess the question is how long is one person's life worth? And so they did four life sentences back to back to back to back essentially. But so he missed he missed one of the runaway truck ramps, and that would have been a way to help him prevent hitting anyone else. But in his testimony, he was saying, it's like if you're in a panic and you've never been in this
situation before, you're probably in tunnel vision. Yeah, it's not like he was malicious. No, he was busy swerving in and out of cars, trying not to hit anyone. And then he said that he saw another truck in the shoulder, which is that's where he wanted to stay. He said he was just going to try to stay in the shoulder and that there was a truck up ahead, so he thought maybe if he smashed into it, it would
slow down his vehicle. But then I guess that is another point of contention because they realized if he smashed into that larger truck, he probably would have died and killed himself, and so because he was not willing to commit suicide, that's why they're saying that he had malicious intent because he was willing to put other people in danger before himself. But I don't know that he knew
how it was going to end. Like I mean, I agree, I don't want to kill myself either, but it doesn't mean that all of a sudden I want to hurt other people or kill other people. Know, And they're saying that there are a couple of maneuvers you can do if your truck uh loses breaks or there's an incident. You can try to lay the truck down on its side, which apparently is a very difficult move to do. I think that would I mean, making like a very sharp turn and then just having it fall over. Um, you
could also run it into the guardrail. I mean, these are all right, and and let's be honest, these don't really seem like tactics you learn how to do by actually practicing them. You probably just read them in a textbook. So if you've never done it before and your brain goes blank, this is a lot. This is exactly why when a lot of people hydroplane, they get into accidents because they've never experienced hydroplaning. They've just read about it.
For those people who don't know what hydroplanning is, it's when there's water on the road and your car skids and you lose complete um a steering ability. So everyone in Los Angeles when it drizzles, which is which is? Which is funny? That for when you get a driver's license, right, they take you on some back road where there's park cars and they have you parallel park. That's not where the accidents happen. The accidents happen when you drive it.
So maybe people should be a little more versed in the situations that they may have to handle. Yeah, these boulevard I mean also the fact that there's now a hashtag no trucks to Colorado, like all everybody refusing to drive in Colorado to stand by him, show how over the top this sentences for what happened. Apparently there are a ton of truck drivers blocking off the roads to Colorado. They've all just complete there. They're they're basically not rioting, protesting.
And the little the little girl, one of the little girls, one of the people who was killed. Unfortunately, she said, I won't have my dad, but hopefully this is the person who killed my father will have his son. And even then the judge said he it was completely out of his hands and he was mandatory to give this sentence.
But now there's a petition that has over four million people on change dot org and apparently changed dot org said it was their largest petition this year, and it's asking Colorado Governor Jared Polis to grant clemency for Rohell and his prison sentence. I think that you know this. This has been going on for a while because the petition was created three years ago, but the trial just came to a head. Apparently he didn't accept a plea deal.
There was a plea bargain on the table and he didn't take it, and then the worst thing imagina will happen. He got a hue years and you can see in his testimony he's sobbing. He's like, I wish it was me. I wish every day it was me. I can't believe why why did they die and I lived? You know, he has survivors guilt. It's clear that it was an accident and he panicked and made some poor choices that could happen to anyone, Well, you said it yourself. He's
twenty three years old and he made mistakes. He wasn't on drugs, he wasn't drunk, he wasn't being reckless. It's like years for for somebody that a young kid that made a mistake, like and not even like other people say, like I made mistakes, I went drinking driving. That's not even this. And to that judge, I say, if if this the the last few years have taught us anything, don't give me the it's I'm unfortunately my hands of time. It's mandatory that I do this. Nobody does anything that
they have to do anymore. And I don't mean that like in a shitty way, but there are ways around stuff. Your job is to is to make the decision based on all factors. Yes, and I mean Kyle Rittenhouse killed three people intentionally, almost allegedly, not intentionally, and it's completely free and this person giving motivational speeches m hm and
and okay. So apparently though there is a little bit of hope, the tiniest bit a glimmer, because apparently, in Colorado judges are allowed to revisit sentences after a hundred nineteen days in jail. And that's a mandatory minimum sentencing long. So I'm interested to see if the public really pulls together and protests us, and maybe they will diminish his sentence. I'm on December, so hundred and nineteen days post. That's not that far out. No, it's a third of a year, yeah,
which in these days goes by very quickly, very quickly. Yeah, I mean, he's not missing much out here. I love the way you always, no matter how tense we are with the topic, you always have a way of just just bringing it back, making it trying to give us a joke. And speaking of jokes, you know, we don't know how to make the transition to why don't we take a break then? Because I feel like all these things could use a little breather in between, at least
for us. It's just like sex, I mean breaks. Yeah, I have sex like a nine year old man, you know. I'm one minute on, one minute off. Hello, everyone, we're back to real time crime and we've got our final segment for you today. Dmitri has been talking a lot today, even though we didn't really give him permission. Sometimes sometimes in one wow, I know you're very topics. We can't it's you take this one, Leah. All right, Teddy, I'm ready.
So many of you have probably heard about this already from Snoop Dogg's Instagram, but we are going to be discussing Drakio the Ruler. So Darryl Wayne Calledwell professionally known as Drakio the Ruler, He was a twenty year old American rapper and songwriter. He was known for his unique flow with people said was like oddly expressive, and he's very poetic word choices. And he was um facing a
lot of legal issues in the past. So in seventeen he was arrested by l a p D. They rated his condo, a place where he regularly shot music videos, and he was held in jail when he was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm by felony. Then he was released shortly after, and in ten he was arrested again. This time he was charged with first degree murder, attempted murder,
and conspiracy to commit murder. The charges stemmed from twenty sixteen shooting in Carson, California, where one person was killed and two were injured. He was facing life in prison, and then in July nineteen he was acquitted of his murder and attempted murder charges. However, the district attorney decided to refile charges of criminal gang conspiracy and shooting from a motor vehicle in August, two counts that resulted in
a hung jury during his trial. He was released from jail in November after the District attorney office offered him a plea deal following three years incarceration. This a little backstory. UM, I just want to let you guys know that if you have watched my Instagram stories and you know how mentally ill I am. I got real caught up on the words hung jury last night. My face when you did, I was like, uh, she was still excited. She's like, Hans, tell me you haven't had sex without telling me you
haven't had sex. Um, I am so okay, I'm fine. Okay. So so let's get to what occurred. He was stabbed backstage at around eight thirty pm on December during the Once Upon a Time in l A concert, and Snoop Dogg and were set to headline never performed. They basically left immediately after they heard about the incident, which was at the Bank of Cali Fornia Stadium. There were some eyewitness reports saying that he was stabbed in the neck, others saying he was stabbed in the head. It is
still unclear where he was stabbed. Paramedics came ort around eight forty and transported him to the hospital and critical condition, where he was later pronounced dead of his wounds at the hospital. There has been no arrest made. No one is in custody yet. Snoop Dogg made an announcement on Instagram and saying that you know, he was deeply sorry that um about what occurred into all the families, and you know, obviously the show had to be canceled. The
show could not go on after that. Okay, how has there not been any arrests or anything. I don't understand. Like I've been, I've been. I was about to be like, but I've been backstage a million times. There are so many people bustling around back there. This is not something that it's like. And cameras, I mean, I don't know that. There's always cameras. I don't know. Never mind, I mean,
I don't know. I mean, but even no matter where you go, if you're walking around backstage, normally everybody performing has a handler with them. Of some sort. Then there's publicity, then there's security, then that like, so, how is this happening? My other question is if a few different people have different accounts of how it went down. They saw him get stabbed in the head, they saw him get stabbed in the throat, that means that they saw the person
or people who were part of this altercation. So why is no one talking. Or Leah's theory, I think that he because of his prior trouble with the law, there may have been a larger play for the police, and maybe they are looping this into a larger crime that or I mean, maybe he started it. He still did get murdered. He did. We just don't know any information, and our job as social crime sluits are to give all of the things. Maybe nobody's been arrested because somebody
was questioned because it was in self defense. Oh that's interesting. Oh what if it was self defense? I mean, that's a pretty good Kyle Rittenhouse argument if I ever heard one. I'm just saying I don't know. Obviously, there's not there's not very much information on this case. There's not very much information. We don't know who was present, we don't know We don't have any footage, we don't have any photos. All we know is that Snoop Dogg I mean announcement
and that Drako is no longer with us. That's basically the extent to which we know. We also know that this is different than Astro World because somebody found out that there was a death, they canceled the rest of
the uh concert. I mean, this is something also that makes me a little bit confused when we go back to some of the earlier cases that we talked about, Like all the cases that we've talked about, why are some things that you're involved in mean that you're done working, you're canceled from everything, and then some things you can have a huge list of things you've almost gotten life sentenced for and then still be showing up and booking a big job like that. It's a good question. I
don't have any answer to that. And we see this along though, you know, I mean, uh, it's interesting because I was going to say, if those crimes had been committed, you know, seven years ago. People change, and all the cells in your bodies change every seven years, so but these were pretty recent times. Two thousand seventeen, two thousand eighteen, two thousand nineteen. I've got no excuse, and then we were inside for two years, so what's to say that
crimes would still have continued? He committed those crimes during Yeah, I mean, I get it, there's a lot going on, but I don't know. All of these conversations is starting to make me worried about going to concerts. Interesting or you know what, You're right? You want to believe that it's like because everything I go to my kids, like, let when they're fifteen years old, the like our sixteen years old, the likelihood that they're gonna want to go with their mom to a concert is probably not high.
So you want to assume that you are sending them to a safe place that's very secure. So what precautions are being taken at these events? I wouldn't say a concert festival, you know, bigger festivals where more people are going to attend because there's more headliners. What are the security precautions? I can I can say from personal experience from going to I don't even know. I mean, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but from going to jingle Ball, there are people on every single door.
There are people I mean there's someone checking before you go in the bathroom, like there is no place that you can go and there's nothing that you can do undetected. Yeah, same thing with I heard festival is I felt I've never felt safer. So what ball is being dropped in these situations that it's so easy for these crimes? Cherker, I mean, maybe people just need to go to concerts in the metaverse where it's safe. And what I'll never understand.
Remember how I texted you the other day ask me about n f T s and then I got I got sidetracked and realized I'll never be able to understand, so I have to continue on not knowing. Yeah, and then I was. And then I was awarded Entertainer of the Year by Time magazine and an n f T. I would have congratulated you, but I have no idea what it means. But congratulations now that we're face to face,
that is. It was honestly pretty cool. I did cry, but I'll cry over everything if you guys can imagine that. And we haven't seen you cry yet. Goals for next week? Really, I think I cried when I said Joan Rivers his name too many times, said Babs. Yeah, also Babs the same effect, don't okay? Um, But but I also think, you know, having very conservative parents growing up, I had the fear of God instilled in me, and UM never
did anything. So I suggest living in a bubble and living in fear of your life and you'll nothing bad will ever happen to you, because nothing will ever happen. Well, I broke my teeth out at a concert. Actually I was. I was either in the eighth or the ninth grade, and I was at a widespread panic concert. Wow, go on,
And I don't know. I mean I was probably like drinking Boone's farm, let's be honest, um, And I put somebody on my back as if I was a horse and was cantering and trying to jump the railroad track outside of the widespread Panic show and tripped and broke my teeth out. And when I got back to the house, my mom was like, well, you're just gonna have to wait it out, because like when I remember like having to put candle wax on these two, like these three
broken teeth right here. Like I mean, who would have thought drinking Boone's farm and taking someone on your back and pretending to be a horse could end badly. Wait, I'm stuck on the candle wax on your teeth part George Washington. Well, no, because my roots were all exposed and it was hurting every time I breathed. So I came home and I was like, why d it was in the middle of the night. I just got home.
What am I gonna do? Go to the e R made it sounds like, well, if it hurts, you made it sound like you like, this is what you had to do until they grew in my grow and apparently you thought so oh yeah, um yeah, So don't you know, maybe don't drink Boone's farm and pretend you're an animal and try to jump around on tracks. Also pot tips by Cheddy we can do another day. Wow, thank you so much. Yeah, I mean my only on my one thing I did was I lied to my mom said
I was sleeping at my friend's house. And we went to New Jersey to see Avril Levine in concert, and I wore black and wife beater with a black tie and we were like, oh, we're gonna be so cool, We're gonna look like ABRI's gonna be so punk, and I just want, let you know, nothing about me was punk at the stage of my life. I was wearing like pink juicy sweatpants and we show up and we y, we think everyone's going to look like that, And everyone was just dressed like cute little girls from Jersey and
like jeans and cute tops. And I hate trying to Yeah, it was your shot. She could have brought you on stage as a double things. You never know what's happening. Yeah, So anyway, um, listen to your parents, listen to your parents. Don't do any of the things that Lee and I do. I don't really. I mean, who knows what Dmitri does. He's he's a wild one. Now, I was a good kid. I feel like Dmitri was born this age never age. Can't you submit a photo of what you looked like
as a child. I need to know I face, Yes, I had no beard. I had hair on top. The hair just slid down over the years. So, Dmitri, I still think you're AI. Like, I'm not convinced your person intelligence is easily artificial. Yes, you're compared to us. He's a genius. Okay, So anyways, you guys, can we take one more break? Let's take one more Just a little bit of something if it's a little business to take
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like for you to just write sleuth on it. I want to see who's listening and paying attention. Well, obviously not me. I'm not. I'm I didn't even know there was one. I posted it like an hour ago. I was like, I'm the worst. The cover Just so people are clear, the cover of the real is uh Me
on Business Insider, so it's not Teddy and Dmitri. But she's like, I'm gonna plug us all but really, I'm just plugging myself that I anyways, don't worry about Dremitri and I follow Leah like her post Tama how great she is, and we'll just go kick rocks outside. No, guys, I just want to also remind you you gotta call us calling live, okay, leave us a voicemail eight six six one crime. That's eight six six twenty one crime eight six six twenty one crime eight six six two
one two seven four six three. If you see something, say something to us. No. Look, everyone, have a great Christmas. Happy harnakah to alma Jews out there. I know it's already over, but just I was like, hold on, I'm not sure if I'm pretty sure that those days are gone. Happy New Year, Oh my god, happy to hear you guys. Happy New Year. But two, I feel like it's gonna be twenty again I know, but thrilled. Well, I'll see you guys. What is it the people say on the
flip side? Are you dying? Guys? Stay safe? Okay, stay safe over the holidays. By love you guys. Bye. It's real time grad. It real time grad. I mean, is it actually real time crime? I'm solving anything? Or is that just the thing we say, It's a thing we say, got it? Okay, see you next week for more real time crime, only on I Horror Radio.
