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Real Money, Real Experts

Real Money, Real Experts is a personal finance podcast written and produced by AFCPE®. With an audience of financial professionals, we strive to educate and entertain with a combination of expert tips, engaging interviews, and real-life storytelling. 

AFCPE® ensures the highest integrity of the financial counseling profession by certifying, connecting, and supporting diverse professionals. Our comprehensive program, the AFC® (Accredited Financial Counselor®), represent the gold standard of financial counseling certifications. And our membership community offers a place to share best practices, solve similar struggles, and access tools and resources that advance your career and enable you to better serve your clients.

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Episodes

The Human Side of Wealth: Training the Next Gen of Planners with Hannah Moore, CFP®️

What if we trained financial planners by starting with the client — not the textbook? Hannah Moore, CFP®️, has spent her entire career asking that question and building a better answer. As the founder of Amplified Planning and the visionary behind The Externship — an immersive, 8-week program for aspiring planners — Hannah is on a mission to reshape how financial professionals are trained. Instead of focusing solely on technical knowledge, she’s created an approach rooted in empathy, lived exper...

Jun 24, 202537 minSeason 6Ep. 126

Generation Preservation: What We Leave Behind with Glen Cone, AFC®

In this episode, we’re joined by Glen Cone, AFC®, a seasoned financial counselor with more than 15 years of experience serving individuals in estate and end-of-life planning. Glen shares insights from his personal and professional journey—including his work as a counselor for the VBBP program and Magellan Health—and invites us to explore the concept of Generation Preservation : the intentional act of documenting and preserving personal and financial legacies for future generations. From demystif...

Jun 10, 202524 minSeason 6Ep. 125

Money Lessons for a New Generation with Colleen Salchow, AFC®

In this week's episode, we sit down with Colleen Salchow—Marine Corps spouse, Accredited Financial Counselor, and former special education teacher—who is passionate about helping teens, young adults, and military families take control of their financial futures. With a background in counseling and education, Colleen brings a compassionate, real-world approach to financial literacy. From teaching teens the value of budgeting through real-life consequences (like trading Nike money for a new phone)...

May 27, 202534 minSeason 6Ep. 124

Grace, Growth, and Securing the Bag: A Conversation with Adrienne Taylor®

This week, our co-hosts sit down with Adrienne Taylor—entrepreneur, speaker, and founder of Tailored WealthSaver®—to explore how building wealth is about more than just the numbers. Adrienne shares her journey from pharmacy to finance, her passion for helping millennials achieve financial freedom, and the lessons she learned expanding her business through a strategic partnership. Together, we reflect on the real challenges entrepreneurs face behind the scenes, including navigating personal trans...

May 13, 202527 minSeason 6Ep. 123

Money Without Shame: Creating Safe Spaces for Financial Healing with Joanne Danganan

This week our co-hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Brandy Baxter sit down with Joanne Danganan—founder of Financial Healing and California Market Manager for Financial Beginnings —to explore how healing our relationship with money begins with finding safe spaces. Joanne shares her personal story as the daughter of Filipino immigrants, her journey into financial education, and why access to this knowledge is a justice issue. Together, we unpack the cultural shame often tied to money, and the courage i...

Apr 29, 202528 minSeason 6Ep. 122

Coaching Through Change: Jon Akerman’s Journey from Burnout to Impact

After years of navigating the fast-paced world of actuarial consulting in New York City, Jon Akerman found himself burnt out and unsure of his next step. Instead of staying stuck, Jon embraced uncertainty — relocating to a new state, joining the Florida Army National Guard, and discovering his passion for financial coaching. Now, as a coach with MyBudgetCoach , Jon empowers people to break free from living paycheck to paycheck and take control of their financial futures. In this episode, Jon sha...

Apr 15, 202526 minSeason 6Ep. 121

From Paycheck to Prosperity: Jackie's Road to F.I.R.E.

Achieving financial independence doesn’t require a six-figure salary — just ask Jackie Koski. In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts , we sit down with Jackie Koski, an Accredited Financial Counselor and Certified Financial Planner who achieved financial independence in her 40s — all while earning less than six figures. Jackie shares her inspiring journey of overcoming poverty, divorce, and single motherhood to reach F.I.R.E. (Financial Independence, Retire Early). She breaks down her prove...

Apr 01, 202533 minSeason 6Ep. 120

Trust, Training, and Financial Wellness: How to Build Stronger Money Habits with Ericka Young, AFC®

In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we sit down with financial coach, author, and educator Ericka Young, AFC, who shares her personal journey of paying off $90,000 in debt and building a career helping families achieve financial freedom. Ericka discusses the importance of open and honest money conversations, both in relationships and in financial institutions, explaining how trust plays a crucial role in financial success. She also dives into practical strategies for raising financially...

Mar 18, 202536 minSeason 6Ep. 119

The Wealth Within: How Self-Worth Shapes Net Worth with Justin Chastain, AFC®️

What does it mean to build true wealth? In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we sit down with financial planner Justin Chastain, AFC®️ to explore the connection between self-worth and financial success, the emotional impact of money, and the power of authenticity in both personal and professional growth. Justin shares his personal experiences with grief and how it has shaped his financial philosophy, explaining why wealth is about more than just numbers—it’s about how money influences yo...

Mar 04, 202537 minSeason 6Ep. 118

More Than Your Money with Jessica Moorhouse, AFCC®

In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts , we’re joined by Jessica Moorhouse, a leading financial educator, podcast host, and founder of MoorMoney Media Inc. Jessica’s passion for financial literacy started early—she worked her way through university and mastered frugality. But after stepping into the professional world, she realized that budgeting alone wasn’t enough to achieve the life she dreamed of. Determined to learn more, she became an expert in financial planning and building wealth, ...

Feb 18, 202524 minSeason 6Ep. 117

Join Me At #AFCPE with Dr. Brandy Baxter, AFC®️

In the Season 6 premiere of Real Money, Real Experts , we’re joined by 2025 Board President and our new co-host Dr. Brandy Baxter, AFC®️, the powerhouse behind Living Abundantly and Envision 30. As an Accredited Financial Counselor®️, financial coach, and strategic leader, Brandy helps individuals and organizations think from the future to achieve financial success. With a wealth of experience—including her service in the U.S. Air Force, leadership in financial education, and dedication to commu...

Feb 04, 202525 minSeason 6Ep. 116

Voices of Symposium: Real Experts, Real Takeaways

In this special season finale, Rachael and Mary bring you voices of #ExperienceAFCPE2024 attendees directly from the symposium floor. Attendees share their experiences, key takeaways, and advice for financial educators and those entering the field. This compilation of mini-interviews offers unique insights into the world of financial education and the power of shared learning. This episode is also Mary’s final episode as podcast co-host. After 5 years, Mary is passing the baton to a new co-host ...

Dec 03, 202438 minSeason 5Ep. 115

It's Not You, It's The System with Dr. Michael G. Thomas

In this powerful episode of Real Money, Real Experts , Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Mary Bell Carlson sit down with Dr. Michael G. Thomas Jr., a financial empathy expert and lecturer at the University of Georgia, who is changing the way we think about money and wealth. As an Accredited Financial Counselor® (AFC®), Dr. Thomas’s work emphasizes the importance of empathy, self-compassion, and active listening in financial counseling and planning. We explore his unique philosophy that the journey to finan...

Nov 12, 202434 minSeason 5Ep. 114

Behind the Schemes: Unmasking Financial Fraud with Robert Mascio and Lori Schock

On this episode of Real Money, Real Experts , we tackle the evolving world of financial fraud and how we can break the cycle of shame that often keeps victims silent. In this exclusive sneak peek of their keynote session at this year’s symposium, Lori Schock, Director of the SEC’s Office of Investor Education and Advocacy, and Robert Mascio, Director of Investor Education Outreach at FINRA, share compelling stories of today’s most sophisticated scams such as AI-driven impersonation schemes. Lori...

Oct 29, 202431 minSeason 5Ep. 113

Why We Don’t Talk About Money: Exploring Financial Stigma with Wendy De La Rosa

In this thought-provoking episode of Real Money, Real Experts, Rachael and Mary are joined by Wendy De La Rosa, Assistant Professor at the Wharton School and behavioral finance expert, to dive deep into the psychology behind our financial decisions. Wendy shares how behavioral science can reshape the way we approach saving, spending, and budgeting, offering practical strategies to build healthier money habits and eliminate financial shame. We’ll also explore why money remains a taboo topic, the ...

Oct 15, 202427 minSeason 5Ep. 112

Beyond Shame & Blame: Building Bold Money Habits with Syble Solomon

In this insightful episode of Real Money, Real Experts , we sit down with Syble Solomon, the visionary behind Money Habitudes and a trailblazer in the world of financial behavior. Syble shares her unique journey, from her early career as a Peace Corps volunteer to becoming a Financial Behavior Specialist, transforming how people understand their relationship with money. We explore her "deck of cards" approach to life, the pivotal moments that shaped her work, and how AFCPE ® has played a crucial...

Oct 01, 202438 minSeason 5Ep. 111

Just Move: From Discomfort to Progress with David Scherer and Joe Davis

In this keynote episode of Real Money, Real Experts , we’re diving into the power of movement—whether it’s moving beyond cultural gaps, moving through discomfort, or moving towards impactful change. Join us as we kick off the Symposium Keynote series with two incredible guests, David Scherer and Joe Davis, who are experts in bridging the diversity gap through thoughtful, grace-based conversations. David and Joe share their insights on how we can just move beyond guilt, blame, and shame, creating...

Sep 17, 202441 minSeason 5Ep. 110

Money Magic: Unleashing the Genie in Your Finances with Cara Macksoud

In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts , we sit down with Cara Macksoud, the dynamic CEO of Money Habitudes, who shares her remarkable journey from a 15-year career on Wall Street to becoming a leading voice in the behavioral finance space. Cara’s insights reveal how money is more than just numbers—it's a tool with its own hopes and dreams. We explore her unique perspective that “personal finance is anything but personal,” and learn why having small, meaningful conversations about money can...

Sep 03, 202436 minSeason 5Ep. 109

Empowering the Next Generation with Dr. Tiffany Murray, AFC®️

In this episode of Real Money, Real Experts , we sit down with Dr. Tiffany Murray, AFC®️ the Managing Director of the Society for Financial Education and Professional Development, Inc. (SFEPD). Tiffany shares her journey from leading Red to Black®️ Peer Financial Coaching at Texas Tech University to becoming a driving force behind SFEPD’s financial literacy programs. We explore how her core purpose and mission align with empowering the next generation to make informed money decisions. Tiffany di...

Aug 20, 202429 minSeason 5Ep. 108

Pursuing Your Passion with Jessica Medina, AFC®️

"Would you believe that all of those things are part of the AFC program? It's like a warm, fuzzy blanket that I wear at night." Jessica Medina is not throwing away her shot. This week on Real Money, Real Experts , we welcome Jessica Medina, a dedicated Accredited Financial Counselor®️ who transitioned from a career in law to follow her true passion. Jessica's journey highlights the power of embracing life's unexpected paths and finding fulfillment in new dreams. In this episode, Jessica shares h...

Aug 06, 202434 minSeason 5Ep. 107

Advocacy in Action: Using Your Voice to Make a Difference with Raven Newberry, AFC®

This week on Real Money, Real Experts , we delve into the power of community and advocacy with Raven Newberry, AFC®. Raven Newberry is the managing director of policy and advocacy for the National Endowment for Financial Education (NEFE), leading efforts to shape financial education policies on state and national levels. In this episode, we discuss how using your voice to advocate for change can create powerful ripples throughout your community. Join us as we explore the collective fingerprints ...

Jul 23, 202426 minSeason 5Ep. 106

Rewrite Your Money Story with Jasmine Johnson

This week, we welcome Jasmine Johnson, Accredited Financial Counselor®️, Entertainment Accountant, and Mental Health Advocate to Real Money, Real Experts. Jasmine has spent over a decade empowering individuals and families to transform their financial mindset and achieve Financial Independence. In this episode, Jasmine shares how growing up in poverty influenced her own money story, and how it's made a difference in the way she supports clients. She talks about how embracing life’s unexpected tu...

Jul 09, 202429 minSeason 5Ep. 105

Navigating Cultural Differences with Dr. Kate Mielitz, AFC®

This week, we welcome Kate Mielitz, PhD, AFC®️, CDP®️ , back to Real Money, Real Experts. Dr. Kate has 25 years of experience in financial services, including bankruptcy, fraud, financial counseling, and higher education, and she's dedicated to helping financial and human services professionals navigate cultural differences. On today's episode, we take a deep dive into the ways our background and lived experiences affect our relationship with money and gain strategies for working more effectivel...

Jun 25, 202430 minSeason 5Ep. 104

The Heart of A Financial Educator Unlocked with Mike Lanway

Our first podcast episode to kick off with a love story! Join Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Mary Carlson as they sit down with Mike Lanway, CFP®, TSP expert, and self-proclaimed federal benefits "nerd." In this week's episode of Real Money, Real Experts, we explore Mike's unique personal and professional journey and uncover the invaluable lessons he's learned along the way. From ministry to personal finance, Mike has a heart for service and a passion for ensuring that federal employees understand what ...

Jun 11, 202437 minSeason 5Ep. 11

Elevating Nonprofit Financial Coaching with the AFC with Christine Niccoli and Nathalie Kallab Racimo

On this week's episode of Real Money, Real Experts, co-hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Mary Bell Carlson are joined by Christine Niccoli, Director in Community Impact at United Way Massachusetts Bay, and Nathalie Kallab Racimo, AFC, Senior Homeownership and Financial Services Advisor at NOAH. In this important episode, we discuss the importance of professionalizing the financial coaching space, recognizing the effects of trauma on financial wellbeing, leading from a place of empathy, and how you ca...

May 28, 202441 minSeason 5Ep. 10

How To Be A Servant Leader with Gilbert Rogers

"Tailor what you're doing to the audience that you're serving."-Gilbert Rogers. On this week's episode of Real Money, Real Experts, co-hosts Rachael DeLeon and Dr. Mary Bell Carlson are joined by Gilbert Rogers, AFC. Gilbert is the Director of Financial Wellbeing at UNC Chapel Hill. He is a national thought leader in the financial education space and has worked with the Army’s Transition Assistance Program (TAP) and participates as a financial counselor for the Veterans Benefits Banking Program ...

May 14, 202429 minSeason 5Ep. 9

The Journey to 100 Episodes with Rachael & Mary

Step into the spotlight with us as we commemorate the 100th episode of Real Money, Real Experts. In this special episode, we reminisce on the trials, triumphs, and unforgettable moments that have defined our podcast journey and look ahead to the future. We pull back the curtain to give you a look at our podcast journey, answer listener questions, and share some of our favorite moments along the way. But this episode isn't just about us—it's about you, the people who have been the heartbeat of Re...

Apr 30, 202438 minSeason 5Ep. 8

Purpose, Passion, and the Power of Pivoting with Lissa Prudencio

Join co-hosts Rachael Deleon and Dr. Mary Carlson as they welcome Lissa Prudencio, AFC®, Founder of Wealth for Women of Color. In our latest episode, Lissa shares the power of pivoting and reminds us that investing in ourselves can help change the world. You'll learn the secret to intentionality, how to avoid burnout, and the importance of putting yourself first in your financial wellness journey. Lissa is on a mission to empower women of color to break down financial barriers and build wealth. ...

Apr 16, 202436 minSeason 5Ep. 7

Leading with Values and Stories with Sara Lohse

Join co-hosts Rachael Deleon and Dr. Mary Carlson in this week's episode as they welcome Sara Lohse, AFC® and Founder of Favorite Daughter Media, to the conversation. Fueled by caffeine and unwavering passion, Sara is a master at blending storytelling and marketing to empower mission-driven brands to amplify their impact. In this fun conversation, Sara takes us on a journey into the heart of authentic storytelling. We talk about podcasting, thought leadership, and emphasizing the importance of l...

Apr 02, 202428 minSeason 5Ep. 7

Building Bridges: A Journey of Passion and Purpose with Lynne Patterson

On this week's episode, co-hosts, Rachael Deleon and Dr. Mary Carlson, are joined by AFCPE Board Member and FINRA Foundation Fellow, Lynne Patterson, AFC. Lynne's expertise and passion for fostering collaboration and resilience stem from her deep military connections. As both a service member and a dependent she has moved an astounding 35 times, providing her with a unique lens into the challenges that military families face. On this episode, we dive into Lynne's unique professional journey, and...

Mar 19, 202421 minSeason 5Ep. 6
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