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Rattle & Pedal: B2B Marketing Podcast

Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKayrattleandpedal.com
Jason Mlicki, agency leader, and Jeff McKay, former global CMO, discuss growth, marketing, and life in professional services in this weekly podcast. The duo offers divergent thoughts on solving the issues practice leaders and marketers confront—or probably should—including stupid sh*t Marketing should NOT do, how Marketing ruins everything, the BS of professional services, and unleashing your Young Turks. Executive guests and industry experts join frequently to share their insights and experiences. It’s all served up with humor and a refreshing dose of reality from two guys who know how to grow firms.
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Episodes

REPLAY-Why Professional Services Firms Can’t Innovate with Rita McGrath and Ron Boire

This episode originally aired in April 2023, but its ideas are more relevant than ever in an AI-disrupted world. In this REPLAY, we revisit the challenges of professional services innovation with strategy legend Rita McGrath and Ron Boire, her partner at Valize. Both share a ton of insights on the issues that inhibit professional services […] The post REPLAY-Why Professional Services Firms Can’t Innovate with Rita McGrath and Ron Boire appeared first on Rattle and Pedal ....

Jul 10, 202543 min

REPLAY: Avoiding the Sales Kill Box with Gartner’s Maria Boulden

This episode, originally aired in November 2021, remains as relevant today as it was then. In this REPLAY, we revisit new sales realities. Gartner’s CSO Whisperer, Maria Boulden, shares why the pandemic, digitization, and sales behavior have combined for inefficiency and ineffectiveness. The post REPLAY: Avoiding the Sales Kill Box with Gartner’s Maria Boulden appeared first on Rattle and Pedal ....

Jul 07, 202528 min

The Framework for Firms That Want to Win: The Prudent Pedal Growth Framework

Explore the Prudent Pedal Growth Framework—a strategic, no-fluff model designed to help professional services firms align culture, strategy, and execution for sustainable growth. The post The Framework for Firms That Want to Win: The Prudent Pedal Growth Framework appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Jun 13, 202538 min

The Real Reasons Growth Stalls in Professional Services

Jeff and Jason kick off a multi-part series on the CEO’s Guide to Differentiation, Growth, and Scale by unpacking the three major hurdles to sustainable growth in professional services firms. The post The Real Reasons Growth Stalls in Professional Services appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

May 30, 202537 min

The Death of Industry-First Segmentation?

In this episode, we explore how AI is changing the landscape of industry-first segmentation in professional services. Learn how firms should pivot their strategy to focus on capabilities, not just industry expertise. The post The Death of Industry-First Segmentation? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

May 16, 202538 min

Measuring Your Marketing (or Brand) Investments

Learn how to assess marketing effectiveness beyond metrics. We discuss the importance of brand preference for sustainable growth and aligning your marketing strategy with your firm’s strategic objectives. The post Measuring Your Marketing (or Brand) Investments appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

May 02, 202538 min

Is PS Marketing Ahead of the Game or Behind?

Is professional services marketing behind the curve? Jeff and Jason dig into the industry’s creative, strategic, and resource challenges—and the timeless advantages it still holds. The post Is PS Marketing Ahead of the Game or Behind? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Apr 18, 202539 min

Differentiation: Is It Getting Harder? Or Easier?

From AI-enabled search to the growth of industry directories, the forces of the market are making it harder to differentiate a firm. Or are they? The post Differentiation: Is It Getting Harder? Or Easier? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Mar 03, 202543 min

The Credibility Crisis: Its Impact on Society, Business, and Professional Services Firms—and What to Do About It

We examine the growing credibility crisis shaking society, business, and professional services. Learn how declining trust in experts and institutions is reshaping decision-making. Featuring data from Edelman, Pew, Gartner, and Deloitte, this episode offers actionable strategies to rebuild trust and drive lasting success. The post The Credibility Crisis: Its Impact on Society, Business, and Professional Services Firms—and What to Do About It appeared first on Rattle and Pedal ....

Feb 07, 2025

A Peek Inside The Tercera 30 with Chris Barbin and Michelle Swan

Chris and Michelle join us to talk about Tercera’s strategic investments in thought leadership and break down the release of the firm’s research, the Tercera 30. The post A Peek Inside The Tercera 30 with Chris Barbin and Michelle Swan appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Jan 04, 202547 min

2025 Marketing and Growth Priorities. Are They New or Evergreen?

From changing regulations to AI and finding better ways to connect with clients, Jeff and Jason set strategic priorities for professional services firms in 2025. The post 2025 Marketing and Growth Priorities. Are They New or Evergreen? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Dec 20, 202449 min

Winning the Battle for Mindshare When the Competitor is a Bot

AI is changing both how clients seek solutions to problems and how they vet firms to hire. Jeff and Jason wrestle with these changes and offer a clear path forward for firm leaders and marketers. The post Winning the Battle for Mindshare When the Competitor is a Bot appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Nov 22, 202447 min

Marketing Channels: Which Ones are the Right Ones for Your Firm

SEO, podcasts, conferences, advertorials, blogs … so many marketing channels to choose from. But which ones are right for MY firm? The post Marketing Channels: Which Ones are the Right Ones for Your Firm appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Nov 08, 202448 min

Why People Don’t Understand Data and What to Do About It with Bill Shander

Data visualiation expert Bill Shander joins the show to talk about why people don’t understand data, how to increase the data literacy of your teams, and how to shape a compelling POV using data. The post Why People Don’t Understand Data and What to Do About It with Bill Shander appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Oct 25, 202448 min

Segmentation: The Marketing Foundation Firms Seldom Get Right

It’s the essence of strategy and the basis of everything—culture, hiring, IP, marketing, sales and client service—Segmentation. Most firms get it wrong. Here’s how to get it right. The post Segmentation: The Marketing Foundation Firms Seldom Get Right appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Oct 11, 202454 min

The Antidote to Crappy Buyer Personas with Jim Kraus

Most buyer personas are little more than fictional avatars. Jim Kraus, President of the Buyer Persona Institute, shows us how to develop a persona that helps you truly understand the buyer and buying process you’re hoping to affect. The post The Antidote to Crappy Buyer Personas with Jim Kraus appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Sep 27, 202453 min

Who Should Be Your Firm’s Thought Leaders?

Picking the right “faces” for your firm is critical to the success of your growth strategy. Jeff and Jason discuss the characteristics of the best thought leaders. The post Who Should Be Your Firm’s Thought Leaders? appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Sep 13, 20241 hr 1 min

Fortitude: The Key to Sustained Marketing Success

In many firms, Marketing fails because leadership prematurely gives up on its strategy. In this episode, Jeff and Jason break down why firms quit too soon and how to cultivate the virtue of fortitude to drive long-term success. The post Fortitude: The Key to Sustained Marketing Success appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Aug 30, 202448 min

Intellectual Capital: How to Make an Idea Truly Transformative with Art Zards

Jason and Jeff welcome expert speaking advisor, Art Zards, to explain why some ideas break through and transform the world around us. And, why others die before the applause even ends. The post Intellectual Capital: How to Make an Idea Truly Transformative with Art Zards appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Aug 09, 202452 min

Using Online Reviews to Drive Referrals with Katie Hollar of Clutch

Katie shares the methodology that online marketplaces like Clutch use to publish client reviews and suggests how firms can leverage them to drive a “flywheel through referrals.” The post Using Online Reviews to Drive Referrals with Katie Hollar of Clutch appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

Jun 07, 202444 min

Referrals: When and How to Ask for Them

If you want to actively pursue a referral strategy, when should you ask? And what should you say? Jeff and Jason dive into the mechanics of asking for referrals. The post Referrals: When and How to Ask for Them appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

May 24, 202445 min

Referrals. What Are They? How to Position Yourself to Get More of Them.

“Do good work and good things follow.” It’s the typical referral strategy of most firms. But it’s woefully incomplete. Jeff and Jason dig deep into what a referral is and how to earn more of them. The post Referrals. What Are They? How to Position Yourself to Get More of Them. appeared first on Rattle and Pedal .

May 10, 202451 min
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