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What's going on? Man fed post, he's kind of the main character this week on Twitter at least in my timeline screen caps all over the place more screencaps than tweets. I've see of him which is crazy. And what's going on man? How you doing? I'm chilling. Are you guys doing man? Lovely Saturday, lovely doing great. So excited to have you your
work? Obviously, we've been following you for a while and, you know, come from similar ranks and especially during this covid thing, you know which I think we'll talk about a lot today. Oh yeah. And you know where was hard to find people in the early days, you know? Yeah yeah and I was like, who the fuck is because I followed you before that and Glen Falls? You way before that? Yeah, actually I was like, yeah,
that's crazy. Is I on my old account personal government name old account shit. Randomly ran into CR K. I don't think that was your name at the time. It was just black.com. Pill. This is like years ago. I randomly just in a threat. I'm, I see it. I'm like, oh, that's cool. Follow, you know, I mean and then oh, really. Oh shit. Yeah, I know it's a trip. So then when I started what we're doing, I got our counts going. And I was like, let me follow that guy because I liked that
guy, you know. And you just before covid, this is before it is I think Bernie still you know, going strong and all that stuff. And I and then to see that Evolution when nobody else did as far as covid, like nobody else, everybody else was like scared for their life and I was like not fucking base. Appreciate You guys were keeping me saying honestly like you did a few other people like because like I mean look a lot of shit changed in the last year.
So it's just like to come from that Bernie world and then just sort of like, see a bunch of like seismic shift happening. And then, you know, you either you either read it and feel like, you know, either adjust to it or you just stay like locked in the same mentality and, you know, a few of us were, you know, we're not just gonna, you know, keep applying the same old
mentality, two things. I mean, you have to adjust a little Bit. And you know, it's luckily like we were changing up and you guys to like, yeah, I mean, when shit happen, like some of us were able to like, you know, not just go along with it and just be like, wait, what the fuck is going on, really? Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah. If you're not concerned, if you're not concerned about what's been happening, I have zero respect for you.
You know. I can understand if you're like a germaphobe or you're tripping on your grandma, you know, or something like I fuck with that. But it, but if you're just completely like, oh, this guy doesn't believe in covid, you know, like one of those leftists or not even Know what I mean? Just like a lib. It's just yeah, it's like that. Yeah, I have zero respect for that.
It's just so fucking dumb, which is funny because they'll like, they'll post these people and I'm going to get into because these are the people that are, like, the people that go at you sometimes, like crk. Like some of the people I expected. I'm like, okay, that guys, fucking lame, whatever. But some of the people are like, yeah, I still like the memes. This guy posted, and then all of a sudden crk is strong enough to get this guy out of ironic.
Detachment to all the sudden, be like, yo, we gotta take this guy down, like, I don't know. He that alert is no. He was talking to Jack Harlow, a couple years ago, like, do you know, oh my God, like just it just pissed. What's funny in these screencasts? What I see is that, like, none of them. It's never like, wow, this takes sucked. It was always like, wow, this is a lame tweet, which is, which is way different, you know. It's like the are the ideas wrong. I got lame tweets all the time,
dude. Like you know, but I don't know. What are you seeing these? Are you block? Are you did you block all these people? Well I've like black chain like for like a lot of Well, there's like a few people that will like, just be stalking me to stalk your everything I say. And at that point I'm like well initially my stance is like right. Don't block anybody. I was like 2K or whatever and I was like, don't block anybody. There's no need for that.
Like just, you know, I mean but I wasn't really getting that much attention and honestly like still in my mind I'm still like a reply guy in my mind like this High School field because like it wasn't that long ago that I was just like nobody knew me. I was just like in Boerne world just replying to people shit just trying to get. I was trying to get attention. I really was I was trying to get like like clout a little bit to like get like seeing all my time on.
We gotta maybe some gentlemen, we got that's, it's true, it's true. I was doing that. And like yeah I mean so I was doing all that shit. And like, but yeah, now it's like thing. Will things changed after that? Like things change pretty fast, I think. Faster than I like, yeah could
process. And like all of a sudden they were like Big accounts, follow me and, like, serious people like fucking like, you know, taking me serious like shit that I'll, you know, I just shit pose like, without really thinking about how you know, and then all of a sudden like people taking mad serious exterior, posters are taking it seriously. That's what I don't get. It's like, you're a shit poster.
This guy that screen capping. You, you are a guy who is like constantly doing a bit or quote, unquote, are detached irony and stuff, but then they think everything you say is in Earnest. Well, that's the yeah, it's plausible deniability. They are, you know, they can turn it on and off when they want. Yeah. Anything. I'm sorry, right. Yeah, well then yeah, that's the thing with that, it's like a good.
Well, this is saying a lot of those guys are actually very Savvy and I have to acknowledge that. I mean, they're very like, media Savvy. And I think they're, I think they're good as it should. Because they know like I think a lot of them are a lot smarter than their followers and they know their followers are dumb and they sort of like I mean they the way they like, pick off like a shitpost. I didn't like make it serious. Like, I mean, they're smart enough.
I know, I know they're not that stupid. I know they don't say I unless you're just talking about this, but right before we Half pound. You're just talking about this? Yeah, how they know. And then like, but it's just weird to see those guys become serious Islam saying. It's like, you literally just like posted a guy like shitting out his own nut sack like five minutes ago and I'm like, hey, I
found these crk screencaps. I just did a weird to me because some of these people like go interact like with our account and I'm like, dude, we're not belief wise, I'm probably 90% where you are crk like believe Like We Believe on. So I'm like, how can you hate this guy this much and still like Like, fuck with me. Like it's totally, I'm saying it's not about the I it's not about the politics like, you know, right, right. Maybe a little bit, but I don't
think so, right, right. A lot of is just like Social Capital. I mean, like, I've been around these people and like they've been on the Pod and like, you know, some of them would tell me stuff about like yeah, they've got like screencaps of each other and they got dirt on each other and there's always like a external like extortion. Basically, like what if you go out of line or you say something
that Don't like yeah. We're going to drop all this on you and we all you know like the eyes wide shut shit. Like you know everybody's got ya. The koala everybody got dirt on each other that you know if you step out of line you're all implicates or no one will step out of line before me and like it's just weird. I mean I don't know what kind of normal friendships are based on that but I mean if you're yeah all your relationships are parasocial and with Abby's online that people, you don't
really know. I mean, I guess I do understand. I mean we're in a very isolating time. Yeah. Now so I get it. I mean look yeah that's the thing I mean yeah. I Used to be like, I'm not gonna block anybody, you know, whatever. But, you know, things change. And I'm like, I got, I got bigger than I thought I'd ever be in terms of, like, attention or whatever. And like, yeah, me now I'm just blocking because I mean, some people are fucking obsessive and they send me weirdo.
Shit and ladylike, I don't know. I've had people offer me to Doc's other people, other big accounts and all my I don't I don't want anything to do with this shit, like I don't, that's gonna do shit. We're all that. We all should be having fun online where you poke fun at people, and like, quitters triggers crazy. But It just gets weird people get it really weird with it too quickly and it stops being fun, you know? And it's like, we should be owning we should be like,
clowning on biting, you know? And just like shit. That's the. We shouldn't be tearing each other down, you know. It's just that I don't know. That's just it. No. Yeah, it's live made a really good point about this which is like it's weird what and you touched on it a second ago was like it's weird seeing the switch when it goes from like everything's a ship post to then all of a sudden like very
serious like well Darkly series. It's like whoa like Didn't like leaking shit and getting people fired leaking, girls news, like all this shit that they do these type of shit. Like, they've done this to people that I'm I like online that I'm from you choose with and like, you know, girls that like like our shit whatever. And it's like, it's just weird, man. This is weird. I don't want anything to do with. Yeah, also, just in, it's also just incredibly beta 2, correct?
Yeah, that's yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, it, it doesn't score well in the rankings, I'll tell you that much. But the, the thing I find, like, really funny to is, I don't hate anybody that much. Okay, non-blue check non-white. Right, right, right. All right. I don't hate anybody that much and I do it. I have people every single day that will come in and just tell me to fuck myself like for, like clowning Biden because I have a
sports podcast as well. We're like everybody's a live that follows it. So like when they when they I got people that do that, I don't hate anybody that much. Like I don't hate anybody to, to do that. And I'm like how it's like you said, maybe we're just so isolated that this is all there is, you know, that's, that's a good point where you're with the distinction made with the blue
chick thing. Cuz in my mind is like, all right, if I go after AOC or Bernie or people with power actual power in the system, right? These are internal. And so what are people who actually influence things systemically? Yeah. And these people, right? If I talk about the left, like I try to avoid like overtly targeting one single person. Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, like, if you hit on vouchers or whatever like it's kind of easy faves. I was talking about this with a James MKUltra.
Women post sales guy was I right? Yeah. I was just saying like, you know, there's there's people that are like obsessed with like the post left, whatever that is, I don't know what that is. And basically like, you know, they're talking about small groups of people small Anonymous accounts and nobody knows, nobody knows. Yeah, nobody really knows me like as whatever like sighs I am or whatever.
You know whatever eyes are on me that are like bigger accounts that like watch what I say, whatever whatever. Nobody really knows me in the real world and I have zero influence over anything. Right. And a lot of these people like, you know, if you're combing through all my tweets or whatever you like analyzing every ship post, whatever like that's one thing. But if I'm talking about like a OC or people in power, you know, I mean like the DNC. Yeah, it's weird.
It's weird that these and it's why I had that like meme of like the left is jumping out in front of the bullet. Like why you jumping out in front of it? Why do you get, why are you defending these people like they don't care about you like what you doing? That lie. Yeah, evidently to it's like there's no argument. You can make even right now. Especially right now there's no argument. You can make that these people care about you.
Yeah. You know are you there's no arguing and the thing like the thing that really irked people was when I went after like podcasters or whatever like that I think and I was going to say that I think that's when I saw the tide turned. Oh that was out that when you when you posted that Chopper where Chrisman, it was a gif where Christmas rat Christmas like kind of adjusting his tie, and they couldn't predict the Trump winning and I predicted from one of. Yeah, that's exactly, yeah.
That Was I think that was when I saw everybody like people because I like I said, I'm in Sports Group chats with a lot of those like irony Dirtbag left guys. A lot of them like sports and and I'll be in there and like they don't talk but I'll see what their tweet like and they don't talk about it in that group chat, but they'll see it in icon the tweets. I'm like, damn, that got you good? Huh. It's podcast Wars. Basically is what you're right.
Right, right. Yeah. There was, there was like people, they were like, I didn't realize this to later but there were people that have like hundred K followers, like really like almost famous people. I didn't really notice like I don't I'm not that like Savvy, you know, I mean I'm not aware of all the shit, but I didn't know the you like really big people that were like, quote tweeting me about that shit. Whatever like getting mad about it. Yeah. Like yeah one. I don't know them.
Like well, how do you know me? That's the bigger question. How do you know who I am? Like, I've got like three k. Like nobody really knows me, but you're well, you're the biggest account that's willing to be bold face about the shit is the way I see it. It's as you know, I was like even though you're not huge, you're you're the one that's like willing to Say shit, people aren't willing to say. And so, you're just like the target for these guys that the
group. Think the wrong thing, you know, kind of like, look a little cooler. This guy can right? Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, it's weird because I'll get the M from people who say the same thing that they're like, oh yeah, I agree with you. I just can't share this on time on. Like why are you telling you? Yeah. Why are you telling me over? It is like that Kovac Kovac big-time like that. Yeah, I'm convinced to. Yeah. Covid is like that.
And I'm coming. I'm convinced a third of the Chapo, fanbase quote, unquote, like believe in what we believe and they're like these guys are fucking Ron's right now. You know what I mean? I just like, it's only the vocal people Online. Rhino that are talking about that. Yeah, right. Right. Right. Yeah. Why not. When I was first listening to Chapo and and there are people, like on this. I was going on the sub everyday like a couple of years ago, right?
Or you're half ago or so I was like because you know when you're just like oh my God, this shit's like people can talk about this stuff. I didn't know, I was even a thing you know, who meets with an absolutely? Yeah, we were all on the same. Absolutely. And then, but then there are people in that sub being like nah, these guys are lives. You guys just don't get It yet. Everyone's like, no, like no, not at all and that by are there, right there out there actually, right?
And I was like, yeah, yeah. A lot of disappointed people now. And I mean, yeah. I mean, I yeah, of course, I mean, how could you not be? But, like, yeah, it is true. Like, the ones that are most mentally ill that will spend all this time like the ranged about small accounts. Like those are the ones that allowed us everybody else doesn't really care enough. Yeah. I mean, it doesn't really excite anybody as much. That's really the. Yeah, that's really down. Yeah.
I think I think what? What? What yeah, what did it was that and then when you guys had a me on I saw a whole new. Oh, really of? Yeah I just I mean, you know, here and there it's mostly screencap stuff. And it's like I follow some of the people but some people I don't like, I just shit I see out there because I will say, fed post Army, the FED post Army Strong. They really hard for you guys
know, they do, it's nice. It's nice to see like and then they don't do it in like a, like, a malicious way, like, even obsessive way. But like, you know, I'll see people scream care and I'll see. Like, you know, Twitter it'll show like all the replies and everybody that like agrees with the person and then you go to like, more replies on the bottom and it's like, man, fuck off. Do you think that guy alone like and right, and it'll be stuff like that.
When you guys had a me on. I think that was kind of where it's a red line because she she is like, and like again, do I agree with everything he says, no not at all. Like, but one, I think she's the best critic of the left. When you're talking about just criticizing the left, I think I've never heard anybody do it better. Like, and but When you guys had her on, like I was great in Solomon, by the way. I was a long like I was a couple
parties. Yeah, we really like, I really enjoyed that but the people just have this like a version to her. So we're like, it doesn't matter what she says. She could basically read somebody's who doesn't like hers beliefs verbatim and she'd be like no Amy that's wrong. Like you know and right. I don't know. That's right. It's yeah it's for beta so much a media thing like what kind of media you consume when really? It's like dude we are at the lowest point in the working
class. Gasps like history, I think. Yeah. It looks like yeah. Like like what are we? So mad at Amy for ride right? Yeah that was a big. That was a big thing for me to was like when I was like a straight regular R ad lib leftist or whatever, like a me like yeah, I found her interesting. I found sometimes she would be like, reaching whatever I was like, yeah, I didn't really know how to feel about. It was also like kind of afraid
to retweet her. I was afraid to be like, damn, dude, I was afraid to like, kind of like do that because I was like, damn, he's gonna bring mad like, super strong heat friend for life. Just for retweeting or whatever and then after a while I just realized like oh this shit is a joke, she was right about a lot of broad Strokes things about the left, you know, I mean, so it's yeah, the discourse policing thing and like the that element.
I mean, now I'm apparently associated with that too, but like, yeah, there's that element of like, yeah. There's there's some dude, I'd like replied to me and been, like, I used to be scared to read your tweets because I was convinced by the not. Is wild, right? Yeah, that was fun being super rude. A, he's being super honest. He's like, I used to be afraid to read your tweets because I was convinced by the left that like, reading, it was like evil, and it would make me evil or
something like that. And then I read your tweets and I was like, oh yeah, it's not. And there's people who say that about Amy and listen to the Amy episode, and we're telling me like, this is the one that everybody's terrified of, she sounds, like, she's not that bad like this. I, the impression I got from her was way worse than that, and people would tell you that I'm like, yeah, it's a weird. It's a weird thing but I don't know. It's a very powerful thing, whatever.
Whatever is conducting it, you know, has it figured out pretty much I guess because like really, you know, I guess I'll segue into our next thing like what what what are we supposed to do? Like? Okay, well, okay, well, okay, so the post left to me where people what people classify it as just a critics of the left-right coming from the same thing. It's not coming from the right wing even though they try to frame it that way.
It's like, we just moved to the right wing and and all that, but it's almost like somebody who'd be like, oh, do you hate the Avengers, bro? Like you hate the Avengers? You don't like Marvel movies, okay? Like, you know, and it's like, no, I just don't think that there's a route through the Democratic party to get what we need. There's obviously not a route through the Democratic party there. Is that shirt like this twice in four years? Learned it twice. I'm telling you, they're telling
you the hey, did you forget? We're going to remind you that. There's no Avenue through us like they're, they're remodeling Republican. Yeah. It's not the Republican either. So it's like we're starting to realize like, maybe just this, like, There's a lot of fucking disassociated. Apolitical people out there. I don't trying to reach out to people in Maga hats. Not me. Personally, I'm not trying to
reach out to them. I'm trying to reach out to the people who are just like yo I'm not into politics because politics never gets me anything which is true. It's fucking true politics doesn't give me anything.
So you want at least like I've had you know like I've had some like really like fucking Fringe like podcasts on in my work truck because we work out in the street and stuff and like there's people that I never thought I would just have it on and like I kind of gauge me like see what this person's like reaction to this shit is you know? And and they'll be like Yeah, you know, the point, I know. But yeah, like a point just like she like yeah, that's true.
And it's like yeah, dude because once you start talking about tangible shit. And like, look, are we close to getting it? No. But once you start actually focusing on tangible shit if that's considered post anything. I don't know, man. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's, yeah, I don't know, because it's sort of like, I don't know. I have a very, I don't know if they think I'm like, like, coordinating some type of brand and I'm like, thinking a really deep about it. And But I'm also like an idiot,
you know. So I don't know which one it is because to me it's just like damn I thought these people were serious. Yeah pushing back against the DNC or trying to convert them and every day I find out that I was a moron for thinking that and every day I find out that it was really just a way to get me to vote Democrat for Joe Biden or all these people that I hate and every day gets more apparent and Trump kind of forced it to be more apparent.
Because if he was just a regular Bush Romney neocon, Might have been able to, to sort of they, the elites would have live with that a little bit better. And there wouldn't be, this fervor about fascism and all that to Booth Democrat votes. But, you know, he sort of forced their hand.
And now all the leftists are like they were forced to you know, basically admit that they wanted the DNC to win and you know and you know however loud they endorse them or not but like We all know that they were pushing for the DNC and like yeah I mean I don't know, to me it's really not complicated. You don't do that shit. You don't do that shit and you don't keep my if you do this shit you don't keep my support. There's no way in fucking hell. I'm gonna be supporting because
I hate these people. So I mean like it's really not complicated. I don't know what the brand work is. I don't know what that is but like, you know, I mean that's just projection but like from them but like I don't I don't have any brand, it's just like you don't do that. So fuck that and M, whatever is against that I am 100% in favor of it's really that simple like yeah, yeah, because you're not, you're not. Are you? I'm sorry, God, quiets I know.
Oh yeah, no go ahead. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say cause you when you say, you're not pushing a brand, like that's true. I don't think you are. I think your ideas are your ideas, but there is a brand, right? So I think that's kind of where people maybe might say like well look it has a podcast because I do see all the sentences. Alright, yeah well I'm saying I think that's where it makes it like an easier thing.
Like this guy's just being a reactionary just so You'll listen to the FED Post. Yeah, well I liked what that you got to have that you came out with a line the other day where you're like you can come on my pile on my podcast.
I don't care if we agree at all but you have to know that you believe what you're saying and you're not just doing some stupid like taking the weak shit or where the wind blows saying, and that really resonated with me for sure, I appreciate the same way like I disagree with people all the time but I respect him. You know, like I'll respect a like a like a dumbass conservative that believes their shit more than like some snakey ad-lib, dude. Want to be like any day of the week for sure.
Yeah, you know. Yeah, I'm in love. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I like look but that post I mean I like, you know, I like the show I like doing the show. I want to keep doing the show, it's fun talking to these people. I never thought I'd talk to certain certain people that have been guested on and some people that guested like I left with a feeling of like, damn, I don't think you meant any of that
shit. So, some of them I've changed my opinion on after talking to him, but, you know, talk to him. Yeah, exactly. That's yeah, exactly. See, that's the thing. Is I heard them out and I don't believe them whatever. But like the thing is like, if there is a brand I'm pushing, I think, I think the idea of that is that, there's an ideological brand, but, defend post, even if you just cut out the gas, right? All our guests come from different areas, they'd all, the believe completely different
shape just to the host. Just me, slava's, uh, we disagree about a lot of shit and like, a lot of it, I cut out a lot of it shit that like, we just argue with each other in group chats, and just like argue with each other at in. Like, you know, I try to Put too much of it in the show because it would take forever to get through but like there's the that's the thing. Like I don't in terms of like a
brand as an ideology. I don't know what we could push in terms of the FED post because it's sort of way. You know this kind of the joke is like people posting like was a chef posted that fucking building with like a Confederate flag and a communist flag and a fascist flag.
And so all these are fed post Meetup because like it, there, it's all mixed up. Like, you know, I mean, there's nothing coherent about, I don't know, I mean, All I know is that we all need food and we all need shelter and I'm down to get down to that, I'm down or whatever your whatever your ideology is or brand is whatever I want to get down to that. Wherever you're from I talked to left.
Is I talked to leftist and I'm down to talk to I'm setting up something with some like, some right wing. It pulled me while I'm trying to get more right-wingers on because I'm trying to get down to that. So I mean, whatever that is, if that's a brand or whatever, I don't know. But like your, I'm just trying to do that, you know? I mean, Yeah no I agree. I agree with you in that in that sense because it's like it's easy to say when you like so say say I'm someone who has no idea
who you are. And say I'm a random laugh. This Chapo fan, right? So I'll see you like a crk tweet and be like nah, fuck that. Click on the Bayou and then you see the fucking fed post link. They're like, oh, I get it right, you know, I know that he's doing this to stir the pot or do this kind of stuff, but I don't know. Like for me when I, you know, you I listen to the FED post and like you're not the same As you are on Twitter. Like your maybe you won't get the same.
I have heard about that. No, I'm not saying you have different ideas. I'm just saying you contextualize it, right? We're in front of a microphone. We can talk. We don't have a character limit. We can actually write way. We are the way we want to talk on a microphone. So I whenever like I've been in places like in group chats were like do that that guy just seems like unhinged like that's a unhinged is the word they say
about you. I'm like look I don't know the guy, I don't know the guy but like you should listen to the podcast because he doesn't sound his fucking like, you know, like crazy. You know, like a I'm just crazy on there, like, it's yeah, that's that's, I've heard that before too. Like my tone can be a little bit more like aggressive on there. I mean, I think, I think in my mind it's like, yeah, there's a character limit. So, like I can't go through all the, like, nuances of it that I
can hear. I'm just trying to get to the fucking point and if I mean, if the point is, you know, look, this is, yeah. I mean, this is the thing is like, yeah, I mean, that's, that's a look. I don't know how to, as far as the brand thing. Like, I don't know what kind of brand to push if, if we All disagree. And I mean, people tell me they listen to the show people that liked the show. They always say, I don't agree with everything.
They always say that, but they still like the show and like they sometimes they agree with, uh, more than me and slobbers a lot more than the rest of us and like, baby, you different guests comparing, you know, I get that shit all the time, so it's just like, yo, I don't, there's nothing really coherent there, so I don't know. And I mean, that's probably their critique, right? It's like, oh, there's nothing
cohesive there. Like, I mean, that's a fair critique of When I push this, I don't know. It's a fair critique because we're not pushing anything. We're just trying. I'm just trying to get down to like, what do we all have a common thread on and what are you down to like, not be dogmatic about. That's all, that's all I care about, you know? I mean, guess what that's what regular life is. That's like, you know, like, group working with people,
bumping podcast, the truck. That's, you know, it's not something online hive mind, right? Yeah, exactly. That's why it resonates with people. Yes. Why people can't stand it either. Is where they're like, no, no. I have curated my timeline. To be exactly what my tweets look like, you know. Yeah. And I've I work in a demise job, right? Are like, yeah, like an atomized job. All I have is my Twitter friends and my couple co-workers, but we're on zoom. We're not talking about politics.
Yeah. I'm not talking about this, especially this year, I think that's why everyone's like heightened that way. Because that, like, you me, I work like, like a legit working class, like blue, collar job. So dude, I'll put you right now. I have like the fourth most controversial part politics. I got the address. That my work like on ironic plan trustees like they'll come in and they'll be like yeah you see RFK new shit came out today on, thanks. Robert J safe and we're all your
peepee. Yeah. And and you know and like the bosses are fine with it and it's like honestly I'll take that workplace over fucking anything man. Like yeah. And like it's cool and it helps so much better.
Yeah. Like we're you know with us we're not academics at all like it with any of this stuff and I think that helps because oh yeah it's easier to like it's more palatable I think to most of the World because a lot of people work and they don't have fucking time to consume, you know, read Das kapital in like No And they work like they work. They want their work 60 hours a week. They're not gonna have the fucking audiobook in their car telling me like it's not, it's not me.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, yeah, I mean I rail on Theory every day. I have to cut it out of the souls because I it's like too much I don't want to be redundant but like yeah Theory man. I'm sorry. Like there's a lot of people I respect that do read Theory and they're way smarter than me and like, like, like Adam Lair, and been like, those guys are like, you know, that that's that's Our passion and I fuck with that. But I mean most people that are just doing it to try and seem
cool and shit, you know? I mean apply it and bring it into your conversation and recontextualize. It like I'm down to hear that for some down here that but don't don't talk to me like, oh well we can't even talk about anything and you don't know what you're talking about until you read this and you interpreted the exact way that I interpret it and everybody else who read the same thing. I read that had a different interpretation.
Well they're just fucking moron. Will you shut the fuck up like it's supposed to sound like the Bible and fucking Jamie pegged like poster? Something where she was just like, oh yeah, it's like, this is what I'm talking about, like this weirdo. Whatever said, that's that. Pseudo irony like, oh I didn't really mean it that way but
okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you were saying like, you know, when the workplace or whatever, like you're gonna bump into people with all different types of ideology and Slavic made this point. It's like, you know, when you're talking IRL with people and you don't get to go online and narrow down, people who exactly. Think like you, you're gonna bump. People that think a lot of different shit radically different shit.
So you better like I don't know. You better be a little bit comfortable with dealing with that and you know, one critique somebody had a me was like, oh, he's like shopping ideologies. Now that Trump lost or something like that, I don't know. Something like oh, you're like running around the store looking for an ideologies like that. Says a lot about the way you think of ideology is a consumer thing to use like Marketplace. Yes, that's not what it is to me.
I'm in love I've got no use for that. Like I got no you see I just got I'm trying to Figure out, you know, whatever you come from. Whatever you think, whatever your background, whatever your ideology. It's got to be some common thread. There has to be and I'm pretty sure that Common Thread is not starving to death and not being homeless. So, you know, I mean, that's that's where I'll just keep it at it. Like, I don't know what the fuck
they're talking about. But you know, I just people from the I got witness and fucking right-wingers and Marxist that fuck with me that like, what I say. So, I mean, that I find common ground with so, I don't know. This is everything to me. I don't need to, you don't know. That's, that's kind of proof. Myself. Yeah you guys keep going. I'm going to pause my shit real quick out of the bathroom. Yeah yeah yeah. So but yeah I wanted to so CR K, well wewe, you've been you've
been vocal for anybody. Some of our listeners aren't really part of like Twitter or anything like that. So I was like, yo you got? Yeah, that's nice man. That's nice. Yeah, it's cool. It's actually pretty cool. I actually really enjoy that but sometimes we'll have somebody on and they're like, who the fuck is that guy? You know?
And so which, which is cool. I'm jealous, man, I'm just Jealous men because the, my biggest fear is being like to twittery or like too esoteric, or whatever, like, having people that just, you know, don't have anything to do with that shit that, yeah, I'm trying to reduce a lot of the, like leftist, right? Marxist, like, Twitter vernacular that I've acquired, I'm trying to get rid of. I tried to learn it because I was like, what are they talking about? I'm trying to learn it.
And now I'm like, yo, I'm trying to get rid of that shit like yeah, Normie pill is the way to go. So like that's don't they have like people that just don't know about Twitter. Because do well, I will say, they know about Twitter. Clear. Know. Like they're not going online exam. Yeah, they're that. You'll look at their timeline and they'll have like two tweets a month like those type of people. That's good. Yeah.
So so nonetheless, what you? And another thing I think people got mad at you, for is just basically saying like I'm voting for Trump, right? I'm voting for Trump. I'm Trump is harm reduction over Joe Biden, which even myself, I was like, yo, I think they're both bullshit like I just thought was my God. Oh my God, but I got you. I didn't think anything you said was wrong. The critique as far as Joe Biden. Le stuff case in point. I didn't even plan on talking to
you about this today. As we've had this episode booked for a while but Joe Biden bomb Syria. So like it's funny how fast it. Like you can basically return on investment with some of this shit. Like I remember thinking like albinos, I'm going to do it right away right away within the first 100 days air strike on Syria. Your thought. Yeah I see. So yeah see I like your stance on it and like see OHS tank like I mean the one I really hate is
a left to set. We're pushing people to vote Democrat, obviously that's the one that really like, lights me up, but you guys like, you guys that are more dislike. Yeah, man. It's all bullshit. Whatever the fuck Irish? I look, I've said even before,
like I get that. I just hope this really hard for me to argue against, but I will say again and there's a more nuanced thing and look harm reduction is not the best pitch to anybody but this is the thing acceleration vs. Deceleration. When they, you know, I was on a leftist podcast and they were like are you voting for Trump for acceleration is mm, I'm like no 4D.
Celebration is my I'm trying to slow this shit down because Trump is Trump and, you know, maybe even Bernie, I don't know, but like if people like that would basically slow down the imperial capital is engine, you know what I mean? And the Democrats, the Neil lives and the Neo cons, you know, the like straight dead in the middle, you know, establishment Centrist, or whatever they're gonna
accelerate that shit. So that's what I was saying was like look, Can Trump stop Wars that are going to happen that have to happen. I mean, look maybe slowed it down. I mean, if you stayed president for 20, 30 years, or whatever, he can't stop the wars. You can't stop that. There's nothing. There's nothing. The president, the president, isn't that powerful? There's a military industrial complex. That is far more powerful than
any fucking president, right? And it's been that way since JFK and before that, right? But like he can slow it down which I think he did. I think he did after the solemn oniy thing I think. Yeah I think if they were Hilary this is Why I tell people it's like, you know, if Hillary was President, I think would be a war. I think would be arched way more. Yeah, I think would be we're into something.
So that was my reasoning was like look, I'm not saying he's gonna, you know, stop all wars and he's a dove. And he's a, he's gonna, you know, be a socialist and Working Class Hero, whatever, I didn't say that. All I said was that in terms of like cutting budgets going to war increasing surveillance by it in Kamala the neocons and their lives are going to do it way faster. Wait. Order way faster and look every day. I mean, I hate seeing it.
I mean, I'll brag about or whatever, but I hate seeing it. It's happening. Every day we live in, right this this week alone. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. And you know, it's why I feel sick because like, like I want to brag about it, but I'm also like the things I predict or fucking Bleak, you know, I mean, so they keep happening and I can't even really enjoy it, because I'm just like this fucking sucks. I don't want this shit. Protecting your team's going to lose every weekend.
Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Like yeah, you're like, oh yeah, I was right again, guys. Like a fuck-off. Yeah, exactly. And I'm gonna kill was okay exactly what you predict a win one week guy. How about that? But yeah like what I found funny about this week was now and this isn't the thing. I think one other criticism I hear about you is that you do conflate or not conflate, but you just kind of group in at least on Twitter. And again, I think with your
podcast, I think you, I think. You do a good job of explaining it, but on just on Twitter for somebody to see, you think the left in the Liberals are somewhat the same, right? Like just like, it's the same thing, right? Like that's kind of the way the criticism I hear. So, when the bombing happens this week, I see a lot of this post, levers is left debate where they're like, yo, we don't
like that, though. Marxist left guy will be like, dude, I don't believe anything the Liberals say, right? And and like, so, they're like, we're not happy about the, you know, B in doing this without biting doing that. But they feel like they're being called liberals by us. You know, like if that makes any sense, And so, yeah, I just, I don't know if you had any, like, thoughts on that because even me, I'm kind of like, well, there's still a distinction
between liberals in the left. However, I do think the left is kind of like the underground rapper version of liberals. I will say that like, right like well, yeah, well, that's the thing that there's leftist. And I don't know if uh, so identifies left this but like, you know, there's a bunch of people that are, like, in our chats that like, you know, there that we're cool with and we have a rapport with and let their leftist and they don't take what I say, personally, they don't
take. Personally. Yeah, and this is feel that's me. Like I still feel leftist, like I don't identify with the cultural shit at all, but I still want all the same stuff Bernie wanted, you know, I still like Vibe with that, but I but I have no problem criticizing a political movement, you know, if you're if you're that attach to your fucking nerd, you know. It's sorry. I cut you off.
No, no. That's, that's a good point because there's some people on post left that will get mad at me and be like, you don't hate the left enough. I've hated the left longer than you Ivan, and I'll say something about, like, look, I really focus on like criticizing the left project like as a nebulous thing right? And and you know, major leftist players that are really lives or whatever. I focus on that.
If you're just some random underclass leftist, I don't really have too much to say about you. Like maybe I think you're naive but like I don't really need to. Yeah, it's not my point. You don't have any power. So what do I care like this? It's not really the thing. But like, they'll be post leftist like, oh, you don't, you don't, you know, they're all legs and like you don't, you don't critique them enough, and I'm like, dude. I can't write them off because I was a fucking lib, two years
ago. Three years ago, I can't do it. I can't. I physically, I would look crazy doing it so I can't do it. But like, I will say that. Like yeah, the left as a whole project and when I mean that is I'm talking about like 90% of it. I'm talking about like the bulk of it, he's fucked. And I think, even if you are left is, if you're real, real left is whatever that means, right? I think you look at the left and be like damn or shoot his fucked up, right? And I felt that way for a while.
Until the point where I was just like, you know what this is, and I care about colloquial meetings, I care about how people interpret it in the broad sense, right? And for that I'm like I don't want to go into the base with someone and be like, hey, I'm a real leftist, I'm a real, I'm a traditional left, I don't want to do that because like at a certain point, I just felt like, you know, I'm on shrinking territory. So I was just like, dude, I just
don't want anything. I'm the more I saw like, leftist, like shitting on people for being poor like Maga people supporting exilic. Valley censoring people, or just supporting this lockdown bullshit. The more I saw it, I was like, look, dude, I don't want anything to do with this shit. I don't want to be associated with this. Like I don't care about labels, but do not call me that shit. I don't want to be socially with that shit, beautiful? Yeah, yeah.
And I was that I go ahead, sorry cycle. No, no. But yeah, I wasn't had nothing. That's okay. Yeah, no. The, the what I found because I was the naive, like left. I didn't know what I was. I kind of I was online but like, again, I can't fucking from like sports. Twitter dude. Like I don't I was just kind of like okay Coughlin ski. That guy seems cool and we're all him right now. Just sit like that. Like it wasn't, it wasn't anything crazy but you know,
after a while like yeah. And and him and I signed I have like a lot of like, especially him like a lot of like crazy. Like Health takes that might be considered considered like Chapo. One of our main things and I don't want to make this like a big Chopper thing, but like one of their big things was like oh the only people, the only reason people get into like holistic health is because they don't have health care and it's like no dude like yeah rich people.
Like fucking billions of dollars to holistic health care shit like oh that's yeah, that's a bad critique. So it's like we felt like we weren't a part of it. Like I remember for a long time we started this podcast on super Tuesday of last year and it was like yeah shout out. One year anniversary is going to be this week's definitely oh yeah, okay, you are on the one-year anniversary episode.
Hey but yeah, March 3rd but the anyways like we would feel like a certain way we would doubt covid or we would we didn't want vaccines to be mandatory and like the fucking Rose people do like you're not a leftist like fine. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, right. You don't don't call security. I'll walk right out. Yeah, no, no. I remember even covid. Shit, you know exact?
Yeah. Well, the covid shit made it Crystal Clear, especially for a lot of people that weren't even on this hype yet, but I remember. Yeah, being on the Chapo sub and like, you know, I was Anonymous and like posting on there whatever and and I'd be like, yeah, I do like Pfizer stocks like we shouldn't trust their vaccines before covid, right? And people are like well actually, you know, actually you should get it and I'm like, you're a fucking You trust your like a Marxist leftist and you
trust like this. Right? Right, right. Glommer Corporation. It's like literally had paid out record record, like world record settlements and killing and maiming people. And not, and like, not just people, but like, you know, brown and black people in the global South right? You know, so they like all people that are all about
identity politics. I'm like, you know, all that like, oh, you know, you're the what your whiteness is showing us and they're like, get the Pfizer vaccine and shit and then covid hit and it was like ee obvious, right? Yet yet more people who double down even harder, right? That's the funny thing about the covert thing is like, it's the people that were kind of knew about it were like, oh yeah,
this is fucking dumb. But the people that are true, believers, double down even harder, like the double mask thing and that was the time to utilize our. We're going to nationalize Pfizer, man. It's yeah, yeah. Right man. Like, it was created by an immigrant forgot about that one. I think I heard that from you. See ya. Yeah. Yeah we're going to nationalize fisa written but yeah exactly like it's like stop saying post left when you don't allow half of the people to be on the
fucking left. Right right. Right. Rob saying like you you should have like okay I want open borders. Make open borders for your fucking political movement. How about that right? You know, all right, you sit like that, like stop. Like again if you if you they don't want to be big dude. I don't think they want to win. That's the thing. I don't know what Bernie is. They want to Bernie as president? They wanted him as president. They wouldn't have done shit to push him. Yes, we're sorry.
They were Yeah, they would have they would have stand the way they defend. In aoc's mentioned, is what they would have done for Bernie. If we had president Bernie went when we decided like, hey Bernie, where's the fucking? Where's all this dude? And she connects with an executive order. No. You just made a great point that I that matters a lot to me, which is the left being exclusionary, right? The left, not wanting to win, while fighting for inclusion, right? Right, right.
Right and the left left, not wanting to win. That was something that really radicalized me out of it. Was that the things that the left advocate, Or their tactics or whatever, they all seem like things that you would do if you
weren't serious about winning. You know, I mean that if you weren't serious about, if you're going to like hyper credential as people like, oh you need to read x amount of marks or you need to be this woke or whatever like all this stuff, all these like means-testing people out of your tent or whatever that is that is to me. It's like intent on making sure that people don't join it. And when I'm in Brooklyn, Irwin right? Like the richest people are the
most left the most little. Yeah so that thing like the rich people being like a elite and like exclusionary and sort of being like Oh well or you still you know consuming this meat media good Market good. Well I'm consuming a higher quality one you know it's always about one-upping that's just the nature of rich people is like, how else do you justify that? You spend all this time trying to get rich. And what other meaning is there to your life.
But then, you know, a certain other people that you're Superior to them because of your money or whatever. How was? Yeah, whatever. How you Justified, if that's all that you care about and it's the only thing that's going on in your life, it's the only way to really, you know, make it meaningful.
And and that's the thing is it's the same thing with the left mentality that I noticed is like it, you have to keep moving the goal post and what's whoa, keep moving the goal posts on, like, you know, like Theory and also it's like you it's, it's Anton, making people not the in it and all the time when I was a leftist. All the time, I heard you're not a leftist. You're not a real leftist. You're not. That's what I heard all its head. I say I open my mouth and all
the time. Be like that's not real hip-hop. That's what that reminded me of you. Yeah I mean yeah and like at a certain point I just said like, Yeah, I think more, I hear this. I'm like, yeah, I don't think this is. I don't think I am.
Well, I wanted to talk like the Bernie campaign in 2016 and 2020. I think we forget that or I forgot hours, I had this realization the other day that we're like, you know, Bernie coming up in 2016, is radically different than Bernie in 2020. And I don't mean the person or the man. I just mean, like the vibe of what was going on. Yeah, it was it was coming from the outside in being like, you know we can change this shit
while Wahoo and like people. All that weren't political before like me and so, you know, like I was at a meeting of them stuff but yeah, we're like, oh shit. This has fucking it up, you know, let's go. You know, and, and then in 2020, it was the opposite. It was like, it was like, just this tidepool, this like quicksand of like, you know, all this dumb, you know, see bringing, you know, early, canceling, because if you've listened to Joe Rogan, you couldn't be a Bernie supporter
and all that stuff, right? And and I remember in the middle, when like the Bernie thing was seriously faltering, you know, in like in Winter and early spring, you know, of last. Last year, and you would hear people in the Bernie campaign like half of them. But would be like, yo, what the fuck is going on? Do this criticize, Joe Biden? Do this thing? Do that thing, where are you doing this, right? And the other half would be like, no, we can't do that. Look at, you know, I never liked
actively try. So those motherfuckers were like they didn't want to win. They literally they wanted their media careers that were for whatever reason, maybe just psychologically. So what majority report to get picked up by MSNBC like I'm really yeah she doesn't do anything. Exactly that's where and that's where those are the people that virtually signal the Artists. They're like, no, I assure you. I'm on the left like mehdi, Hassan, but whereas people like us like we want it.
So that's the irony is like we're more like we're more economically. Left means than these people. You know? Like we have. You want that shit more to the extent that we don't give a fuck about any of that other shit. But like they have to pretend that they are, you know. And it's just like it's so obvious now and and I don't know like there's a lot of, I don't know. I'm kind of like a it's gonna
come out. We've talked about this before as my come out, kind of weird, I'm kind of like a red lip Defender and a lot of As well as, like, like Kyle kolinsky, and Brie Joy gray. Like I got massive problems with him and there there like extreme rad lab, but as if you're like, if your trash and Joe Biden on the regular like you're cool with me, you know? And like and Kyle Clancy was never like, he was like, don't joke vote for Joe Biden.
He was never saying vote for Joe B. Like I respect that, you know what I mean? I don't go end up. Yeah, no, I yeah, I think I think I know. Yeah, I know, we're, we're all coming from this, you know, but I'm what I'm saying is like, like there. People they're going to be the way they are. You know what I mean? They're just like, they're never going to be like you and you and me and and crk. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. True yeah. So I'm like that's infinitely better than some.
Yes. Some dumb majority report or some fucking, you know, some weird media out posting. But anyway, I was just, I was just going off. No, no, I feel you. I feel yeah. Like yeah, where it was just like it was very clear that if some people were actively sabotaging this shit and and I feel there was almost a district where they knew it had, Chance and they were just Tryin ta Keo. I'm short. Yeah. I think they wanted to be Niche, dude, they wanted to be Niche, like right, exactly.
Look at the way they look at the way they consume every other kind of media. Exactly. Do you like re Astor movies? I actually like this director that copies him and his way shitty exactly. Do you like this band Nirvana know? I actually like this band that says that they got their whole style from Nirvana but nobody knows about him. So I like bibstro politics. Yeah, exactly. It was never sustainable. Like you said, The goalposts move what are the rules of the left?
I can't even tell you I can't tell you what the rules of like. The woke left is I can't tell you every day fucking different. I'd be around people. And they would just be like at woking each other be like, well, I've read something that you guys haven't even read and I know about all the shit that you guys don't even know. They're just say it. Very explicit like that. I'd be like, so what are we talking about? I'll be like, what it what are we doing? Like is that, is that what the
whole point of this is? And like yeah, it's the same. Yeah, exactly what you said is like they were last stereotypes about Bernie supporters about being like, you know, him Derp white dues, or whatever, from Brooklyn, whatever. And I was just like, oh, that's bullshit whatever. But like a lot of the it look, I'm again, I try my hardest not to condemn Mass groups of people, I try not to do that shit. Like even the BLM protesters,
like the ones, who are rioting. I don't condemn all them and I don't condemn the people out there were real folks out there, there was a real motherfuckers out there. Yeah. And I don't condemn all the people who had the capital rate, I don't condemn any of them. Like I, you know what I mean? Like, I'm my power. It takes a pro mob, you know, I mean, if there's enough people out there, they're doing something desperate, I have to, I have to sort of, like, take heed to that.
I have to do that. I can't do what these people do and dismiss them and be like, oh you're all privileged and you're all acting out. You're having a tantrum. What the fuck does that mean? Like I Tantra. Yeah I don't know. I don't. Yeah I don't get that like you killing people over a tantrum like I don't, you know I don't get.
Yeah like we had we had the same thing where we during the George Floyd protest we were like fuck yeah, fuck cops, you know like no we don't like Cops, no one likes them. Everyone said shitty experience with them and then it turned into the whole like corporate BLM thing and we're like, actually fuck that too. You know, that's not good.
And then, the capital right thing happened and I was like, okay, like clearly this is like being used as a psyop, but it's actually real real people that believe in this shit out there. They built that like they built, they built it up. But with the media consent, they were like one day, this is gonna fucking happen. The the you shake up a soda bottle enough and then finally open it, you know, some shits gonna happen, right? So yeah, yeah, exactly. Sorry. Yeah, no and I got well, it's
funny. I got people in my family that will hit me because they know I'm the crazy one, right? And don't hit me up though. And they'll be like, you know, like, oh, you're you know, you hear about this Q, shits dumb blonde. I'm like, aw, like yeah, I agree with you. It is dumb to think that Trump is going to stop the pedophiles. Like, that is dumped a clue then on the same breath. Don't be like, maybe like, holy
shit. Have you heard like I have like normies coming at me now being like, have you seen these jams out with fantasy Instagram? Like Instagram posts from, like pizza gate? I thought that was fake. Like people told me, Fake news. Stephen Colbert Tomatoes, white fucking Channel, you why? I told you it was fake. Yeah. Micro you're like, you're like five years late but thank you for liking out. It, you know. Like the kids have already been
dealt with. Yeah. They're like fucking, they're like sophomore year of college but already they're working at a pizza place now. Yeah. But it's just I don't know. Like and again it's I hate we were talking about about like the the Biden thing and bombing bombing people and you know, being the opposite of Harm reduction where it's like yeah. It's that same feeling of like I hate being right about shitty
stuff, you know? Because it's like such a it's such an unsatisfying feeling where everyone has their blinders on and you're just like I called this two years ago and you know it's like yeah I called these people being murdered two years ago. It's a shitty feeling and it doesn't make you feel good, you know? No, and no, it doesn't, it doesn't really. I mean it's like, yeah, I'm always like, you know, when I
get proven, right? You imma go off and then it happens that I'm just like, I don't even want to talk about it. Those kind of the prize, I'm just depressed. I'm genuinely love you to press, like, even with the stronger. The next thing, what's next? You're like, Okay now, what's next? Like, it's not even like, oh it happened. You can't even really process it in the moment. You're like, well, yeah, I was gonna happen right now. What's going to happen? You know, I don't like surprises
anything. Yeah, exactly. And I said, yeah, it had like a, like, a, I'll be real. Like, I had almost mental breakdown, like, maybe five six years ago, like ish. Not like it wasn't too serious or anything but like when I was, you know, I was like going deep in the conspiracy stuff and I was before FC. Gene was a household name. I was rocking Epstein way before. Really listen to us.
You suggest mixtapes. Yeah, but no, but I was like, I was like this dude exists and like, I and know what is this like I'm some obscure internet for him. No one even knows about this dude. I was like am I going crazy like am I like hallucinating right now? And then it's always on the news every day, right? Right, exactly. And then four years later, it's like a giant. Like, you know, families in me up. I'm like, oh my God, this is so it's like, but I already had the
self-doubt four years ago. Yeah, crazy. You know, my fucking nuts. So, anyway, I'm just, no, no, absolutely no. Absolutely not.
You know, I yeah, I appreciate you saying that, because I honestly like that that's a very, it's a weird feeling man, because especially like, when this so much, this course, policing to make it that, like, even if somebody starts to feel like something fishy about whatever, like, even if they have, that inclination, they don't want to talk about it because they know it brings more trouble than it's worth.
Right? So like if you, if you have that inclination and you actually look into it or say something, then you just, you know, you get the hammer on you and like, you just, you know, you just feel more and nobody's gonna jump up to be like, oh yeah, I think he's right. Nobody's going to do that because they don't want the trouble themselves. So like, you just feel very like alone and CEO when covid-19 a year ago. Yes, I don't mind you saying, bro.
Dude, I really was like exactly. When did it switch for you? Like, I know you're early to it, but like, Walk me through the early January February, March, like what was going through? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, all right, go ahead, sorry
guys. Oh yeah, I remember, yeah, I was in China in 2019 end of the year and then they're like, oh, it's going to come and all the lips are like, oh, it's not gonna come and the right-wingers will bug out bag like tripping, out, tripping out and China. And yeah, they're prepping and shit, and they like, it's gonna be the end of the world. And the lives lives were just supposed nothing. And then, yeah, March. All of a sudden, it just
happened all at once. In New York was just like, should I just move Add some more new and I had the flu and I just moved in with my girl and like everything just shut down and all of a sudden like as to state of emergency and people I was at the store to buy food, long-ass lines. And I was just like, what is felt surreal?
I was like, what? So like during that time like the beginning of March, like I was just like this is crazy, but I was also like this feels super surreal and then just throughout March, like, towards the end of March. In the beginning April, I was just like looking at the way, the media was handling. All of it because I watched a lot of news like I hate watched a lot of the news. I hate watching things I was like all right.
Whatever they're saying is is how I can get a read on what the elite want us to think and then corrects turn from their right. Not necessarily just go the polar opposite but I it gave me a good read on what they're trying to do. And during yeah at the end of March beginning of April, I was just like damn it's weird because I've been telling people all 2019 than a crash was coming very soon and people were telling me I was crazy and now there's a crash.
But it's not because of the rich, it's because a guy kept saying, oh, it's going to crash and people are going to hate the rich again. It's going to be serious is going to be like a serious thing and then all of a sudden happened and nobody blame the rich everybody blamed covid, it's the covid crap. They blame the poorest people, they played, they played, they blame the people in the fucking trailer parks, they thought it was a political weapon, dude.
I swear the liberal psychology only because I have some inside knowledge of some people look, but like they're kind of like, yep. We're going to be fine. And those red states are going to get crushed and we're gonna crush the And because all fucking rich people going to, yeah, no, no joke. Whoo-hoo, how do they say it is explicitly? As I said it, they go. No, but look like, look at what got attached to masks. Look at what got attached to it. You're a whole belief system.
Got attached to wearing a mask. It was like, okay, I wear a mask that means, I care about science, Emergency Signal like lives. Yep. Means I care about that other than 0 and you don't wear masks and that was first off, one of the biggest fucking like fallacies ever, is that only like white supremacist people. Don't wear masks, it's like dude I've seen hello black people without massive until like You know, that's right. Well, masks like, yeah, exactly. So, but that was the thing.
I was like, look, all the racist people, they don't wear - it's the video to go with the cash. Fuck the virus. We are getting money. Yeah, but then, I'd be at work simultaneously and I would see just a bunch of people, not wearing masks, but people not not doing this because we were at work We're at work and you realize it wasn't just I'm just plugged into the TV at home, working, remotely, scared out of
my mind. I was at work and I swear the Liberals thought it was gonna be a political weapon and then once you know, San Francisco started getting hit and like where you are in New York once they started getting hit it was like oh shit. Shut it down right? You know like it was it was so crazy and you could just tell like again had to shut down like when people say we don't lock down properly, it's like well then why did the fucking well just shoot upwards? Like yeah we locked down.
Exactly the way they wanted a lockdown. I'm sorry it was proper as fuck, maybe not for you because if for some reason you thought with no precedent whatsoever we were just gonna get money delivered to our fucking door every single day. You know, I mean like that's where the left is completely lost me was that we're just going to be out in the street screaming for fucking relief.
But yeah you know schools can't be open, fucking workplaces, shouldn't be open to where we can't even unionize which that's their big thing is unionizing. Everything we can't even do that anymore because we're not working in the same place and it's like it was such a contradictory thing on the left even more. So because Liberals now don't even give a shit like that. Much about covid anymore.
It's the fucking left that does. Oh no. Yeah. Oh no. Yeah. And if you talk to them in private and those that was a big radicalizing thing to me. So it was like being around like lefties or liberals in New York and just like being around being like you guys aren't doing like the proper covid shit that you always like tripping out about war and private than they're like, oh well, you know, we're cool. So it doesn't matter. I'll be like damn. So all that shit is for show.
You're not serious about this because it doesn't look like it looks like Well, that's what all the lip endemic means. Shit is about. It's just like, oh yeah. Like you know it doesn't apply to you and it's all these dirty filthy poor people that are spreading covid, right? Then I clean like you like you're clean so you can't spread it and you know, he's you're not they're not at fault for, you know what, it's very like Protestant thing.
It's like, yeah, I mean I don't know man, I knew the crowd is coming and it happened and then I was like, yo there's a lot of protests around the world. There's a lot of right-wing nationalism which at the time I was, you know, against, but I Also like hey they're also enemies with an enemy of mine.
I thought they were all like relatively equal enemies in my mind or maybe the right was worse of an enemy or whatever, but I was just like yo they get a lot out of this now all these Chile you know Hong Kong like all these places around the world where they're huge Iraq. There were huge protests and now they're just like the streets are dead quiet now.
Yeah, I was just like, yeah, this is mad fucking suspicious and I was just like, you know, my biggest concern was like alright, the neoliberal order is going to fall and the Right is going to beat out the left, which is going to be bad, right? That was my biggest concern. Yeah.
And all of a sudden I saw them just snuff out everybody, everybody regardless, you know, yellow vest writes a mix of like left and right and all this stuff, just all snuffed out and I was just like, damn they have way more power than I thought they did. And that was a big turning thing for me was like, you know, I kept underestimated. This is thing of, like, an among the students, whatever to just be like all these fat incompetent motherfuckers, like
these fat cats. Like, they don't know what they're doing like there. His do. Yeah. And then I just like that was a big turning point for me like no. I don't think I should underestimate these people anymore. Like I think I did too long and like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean they got cover for everything. They broke up all the unrest and yeah, one trillion two trillion, three trillion, upward wealth transfer these like half a year.
Yeah, this care package, everything that's just going towards them, you know, small business, dying people who work gig economy and like working like Retail and all this entry-level shit, they're all dying. And it's just it's just all shifting to e-commerce things that were already happening. And all the Articles was just like, hey you know, you may never talk to anybody again for like forever even after vaccines. I was like, yeah. How do you know that?
How do you know it was a bizarre thing to me? I was like, did you tell me that graph that graph where the it was like, here's the doctors estimation of when you'll be able to do normal activities and one guy, yeah, one guy was like hug and he was like 20 25. I'm like the fuck out of here. Yeah, like you On Tinder getting pussy tonight. He's like yeah, 2025 for you guys but yeah, it was so weird.
Yeah. And they were laughing all the way to the bank at the yeah the fucking Bernie left movement going along Hook Line. And Sinker with this shit I found it without they found on the wheel ridiculous. Oh yes. Oh yes, yeah, because the silver platter did it was just like could not have been and that's when I that's when really covet for me is when I learned that it was not a serious project. They like that. Nothing was going to come of this like it.
These people are arguing against our, our fucking Liberties and our economic prospects like literally arguing against it and just all just for being like no dude. Like we're going to get two thousand dollar checks a month like at some point like they have to give it to us. I'm like they're not they're not going to give it to us.
Do like we're fucked, you know, it's like I know and it's just like like if that's your thing if you're like if you want to shut down all the nail salons because like we just have maybe have to shop at Amazon for a couple months and then we'll be
fine after that. You're dumb you're you haven't you're not serious y'all like look I'm gonna look broad Strokes. I knew Bernie didn't have a chance 2020 because like, you know, he's old and like, Hillary, he lost the Hillary and Hillary he endorsed Hillary like a lot of. It just gave me this Vibe of like, you know, I have of like family. That's like DSA or whatever. I was just like, no, he could run again, we're talking about this in 2017 or whatever. I'm just like, do I don't see it.
I don't see it happening, and I was very pessimistic about the whole thing, but, you know, I still allowed myself, you know, naive optimism because I was like, I just want him to win. I just really wanted. You know, I mean, yeah, I just allowed myself to hope that especially, you know, when things were looking good and just like, you know, everyday thinking, is he gonna like fucking drop the hammer on these guys? Like, when is he going to do it? And they're like, oh, don't worry.
He's waiting for the right moment. He waiting for the Narrows down all the strategist were like, oh, we're just what he's just waiting for the right moment. When the, when the, when the panel fins and then, he can go after bite, it never happened, then it was one-on-one him. Invited never happened, God and then smoke, and then after you got rigged, After after well, I don't know regular whatever.
But after there was coordination and you got out all of a sudden just like, slowly just shifted over to bite and right. Everybody. All surrogates and everybody else slide in and covid. Yeah. Right. And then at the same exactly. And at the same time, this covid shit is happening. And all I see, is these leftist telling me all these people protesting the lockdowns. Like, they just want to go to the hair salon. They're just like privileged
motherfucker. And I'm like, damn is kind of weird, man because we're in a recession. Like, I don't want to hear about people being privileged like I don't wanna hear about Mass like yeah, movements going on that are like privileged during one of the greatest recessions in like a century, I don't want to hear that shit. That really that. Well that was like those things happening together. Sort of like around March last year. Exactly a year from now.
Yeah. Yeah. Like and that those are the real acceleration. That's the irony is that like you know, you can accuse me, acceleration is if you want I don't know Trump or to burn it down or some shit. But if you're the type that's saying like no these nail salon owners have to starve and their Have to starve. As long as we abolish capitalism which is never going to happen, it's not going to happen in the
next five years, right? Like those are the real unserious people that are like you know oh no this is perfect. Discover things going to perfectly are doing okay. In capitalism right? Dude. Exactly. Right. That's the skin in the game. I don't I'm not gay like you don't see like there were some people like on the left with her like I'm a server but I still think we should lock down.
We did the right thing. Okay sure talk to me in a month you know like but also these people it's like you didn't miss a fuck you didn't miss a meal, you didn't miss anything. Like that and your and you could swear, you have your pulse on
the working class. But I said something today, like, on Twitter where it was, like, look a lot of people that argue about the working class whether I agree with them or not are doing it from like a one-way mirror man, like, on a focus group where they like, they don't actually, they don't actually fucking know what any of these people are. Like, also want it? Oh yes. Oh yeah. Like it was this. I said I saw before was like, covid is like a first-world scrub? It is a first world.
Problem is one of my favorite fucking that looks good man, that was good. Like I thought about that was like, Yeah, they're really, there really is kind of exists. Like, you know, the farmers and fucking in in, you know, Burkina Faso aren't tripping on covid right now. You know what I mean? They're worried about their fucking Harvest, they weren't even pandemic shirts, actually, right? Yeah, no, but soon, you'll be
like like my area. Like, yeah, the hood is right there and the people that are from the hood, right? They've never given a fuck about covid this entire time. Once they're out there, mass group Snowmass smoking, blunts on the street, they do. Don't give a fuck, right? And they're telling you in the news world, this hurts black people more than other people like them. Like, yeah. This is saying that all the thing about you should be scared, you should be scary.
This is serious. Like the right-wing. I had it like right-wingers had like a very basic point. It's like, it's that scary? Why do you need to keep reminding people? Write is that bad people will be scared on their own? Don't know, like, oh so my cousin died from this. Oh somebody, I know that they'd be terrified on their own, they wouldn't fuck around with this, but that's a great fear, not even like reacting like that you have to remind them to be scared and like, you know, yeah.
When we've had like, like people from the south on our show and like, they'll be like in the South, like, Roy is like, nobody gives a fuck about it, right? Yeah. If you, if you like, you know, work remotely, stay indoors, whatever, right? If you're homeless, that doesn't mean anything me, right? Like staying nothing. The fuck does that mean to you, right?
Yeah, but all these guys that have like sushi jobs and I'm one of these motherfuckers, like, I bust my ass in school and like, my parents are immigrants whatever. But like, I have what it is, White Collar jobs and like this is the thing. It's like, you know, we have the privilege, Of just sitting here remote or whatever, but I know every day when this was going on I was like, dude, this shit must be crazy outside because it's like regular people don't have
that. So if you have like a bougie job and a nice big apartment or whatever, and you're just like ordering seamless, contact free assuming you're just like that. Yeah, of course, of course. Covid is, you know, you can you can brag, you can like covid school people because you have the means to get through this with like, you were saying, like people sitting inside like ordering. Must all day. Just look at the actual Optics
of that. Look at the Optics of like, okay, this is the safe way to order food is when another human being touches my food. Other than me, going to go get a clear. Oh, yeah, Glee. Like, I've always always thought about that. Like, I'm like, okay. And then you'll see people.
I saw somebody the other day, like, so somebody screencap somebody, like one of their like lib friend saying, like, oh, I would love to get my Bagels delivered, but I'm pretty sure the last time they did it, they weren't wearing a mask and weren't wearing gloves. It's like the fucking usual. Like step back and look at your own fucking what you're actually saying. Do this fucking lift?
This like, I will name her. I don't even remember her name, but like she was just like all these service people at my job, like, they won't wear their fucking mask. I'm like you fucking, you sound like a fucking like a manager. Oh my God. Is she just like, dude, one of the radicalizing things moving New York, five years ago, and seeing how rude these people were to service people. Oh yeah. My my God man. That shit was my fucking blood. Oh yeah.
These people, and they woke is people, they always the Locust monster. It's like, you know, concern with like social justice in all this shit and they're the rudest fucking people these people. And there's nothing they can do about it right there. Have to serve this, they're they're not in position to talk back. Whatever that should really like turn my head on this shit because I was like, oh I moved to the city and I'll be around like left people like this because I'm from like Jersey,
like, oh this would be good. I'll be around people that think like me and I go there. I'm sick of these people overcome worse in some ways. They're almost worse and it's just like Yeah, that shit yet. The that that covid shit is wild. And the other thing is the fear-mongering right? Like the we're gonna have a mass grave in Central Park and we're putting these people in freezer chest and we're at war with covid. And the nurses are the First Responders and I was just like,
damn, it sounds like 9/11. They kept saying have a nine, eleven hundred percent was 9/11 every day and I was like, you know, I remember a lot of the shit around 9/11 was bullshit. So if you're gonna tell me you're trying to signal to me, hey, Refer back to that time if you want me to really refer back to it, I remember being bullshit. So, I yeah, yeah, yeah. Kovac m-met steel beams man. Yeah, I don't think know, and yeah, it noxious know.
I, yeah, I remember I because, yeah, went before you knew about it. You were like, what the fuck is going on with this? So, I remember I was scared for like a week because I went, you know, my sister has some newborns, right? And I remember, I traveled down there, right? At the start of it. It and she's like, is it going to be cool? I'm like yeah, you know, and then I went back to my home and I like got covid. I'm pretty sure. And I was like, freaking out my fuck.
Am I going to kill my family right now? Yeah, right, right. And then of course, you know nothing happened and I lived I moved since then. But I lived in this apartment right where there's like tons of homeless people, like encampments in Portland, you know just like is like the busy street for homeless people, right? And which was cool you know, there's hilarious. Right?
It's like it's you know they're funny Bros and everything but I remember I was like, fuck like These people going to die and then X same thing. Nothing happened at like, I don't recall what one story of anyone, maybe even getting covert, or even like. And this is like, I mean, winter sleeping on the streets, right? I'm like maybe this isn't the fucking plague, you know, and then it just yes.
And then it just slowly trickle down and like every all the lockdowns got ramp up more and everything else. But everything else like actual covid-19, not less and less serious by the day. When you look at the numbers and everything and it was just, it was crazy. I was worried about coming soon. Ashley, I was like, damn, I got that flu. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, fuck. Do I have it like shit?
I was a little nervous and then your honesty is very reactionary, but I saw the lives panic, and I was like, oh, then it must not be serious. Exactly. Yeah, for real and like, yeah, I just like overtime. Yeah. In the summer, BLM, their out every day. I was the Nelson for me, dude. That was, that was 100%. Okay, hope it's bullshit. When I sing it is thankful shit. Yeah, dude, look like, I mean, look, we could all disagree about like me. You narratives or whatever but like, yeah, that shit.
Like again you the only, I don't know, at that point. You're talking about like two plus two equals five shits me. Like dude, yeah, see it in front of your face. Why do you need to go to PolitiFact to fact-check anything? You see it? Yeah, they're out there masses of people, and the CDC is saying that social justice is more important than social distancing. Yeah, you be a thinking
independent person, see that. And not think something's a little bit fishy about that boggles the mind it, I remember Glenn Greenwald was Like, you know, this seems kind of fucking seems kind of dumb and never there's like, no, no, you're wrong do. Yeah, it is not you fucking nausea race. Ya your waist. Yeah, I'm sorry for saying that, that like, we're the yeah. Walker's, you you it's funny you you, we were all saying the same thing. You are starting to like get it
kind of a bigger following. So I was kind of seeing like, oh shit, we really can't talk about your family because I was saying I was saying, you get your ass whooped on fucking Twitter but we didn't have like a following that we had a couple people that were sent to us. Like no joke. You could count on to fucking hands at the time and They were kind of all like an agreement, so it wasn't really, it wasn't like, it was, it was so funny. But then, you start seeing
people trickle. I get really excited when I see people kind of wake up a little bit. Like I'm like, oh yeah, because that's fine. I won't hold that against you. Like I'm not. Yeah. Like, but as the left, I thought the left was way more conspiracy brain than it really is. That's, that's the problem. I like have with a lot of stuff. Like it's like they will bow to authoritarianism like yeah for any specific thing like and it's like oh but it's our comrades,
the health of our comrades. It's like, dude, you're buying all this shit on credit right now. All your comrades are going to die over the next five years because they don't fucking have what they need unless they're all rich like you secretly. Right, right, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Well, I love I love what and I'm again I'm not sure. I know weird always just talk shit about another podcast but and I don't necessarily hate hate these guys but I love your takes here.
K on the the true non fucking true, not? Yeah. Where it's like they it's like these the safe conspiracies, that are cool but like still won't insult. Yeah. Says means-tested conspiracies. The only what What Glenn says about like, dude, I was pushing pushing and pushing a baby seal off into the sea water to see if it gets eaten before. You begin by sharks before you dive in, you know, like oh yeah, safe you know to say no. I did they they didn't like
okay. I will say like I still don't have like ill will towards them or anything. Not just like I've heard some awesome shit. They've done some awesome installments. Like their 911 shit is awesome. Like I was a ghost so tight, and then you see this happen and they live kind of by their from based out of like where I am too kind of the same 40 mile radius I guess or something. And you're like you're yeah exactly. So I'm like you're not seeing any of it. You're with your brain wired.
The way it is. Yep. You're not. Which means to me, you're kind of useless when you can't see anything in real time. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, thank you for saying that man. Yeah, real time is the true litmus test. You know? That's the real. Yeah. Thank you for saying, yo, cuz I was losing my mind. I was like, how are you digging through hope this recruiter film? What's his name goes to jail? Podcast Berto. Yeah, one of those. One of those guys.
I'm real cool with on Twitter. I, my camera. Yeah, they're kind of like rubber do. But the other one. Yeah, they do the music the collective. Yeah. That's how it right fucking. Yeah. It's a good idea. Is good for Matt. And like, yeah, like you had me on, for the conspiracy one and I was just like, yeah, I was trying to like, nail the point in, like 2 minutes. But like, yeah. It's like why are you digging through all this conspiracy shit and you see all this? This funny shit going on.
And yet when this happens today, you're like, oh yeah, well yeah, whatever they said, sure whatever. They do, say, whatever the government said, wherever the CD said, yeah, well that makes sense to me. What the fuck? Are you talk? What? Like aren't you? And the funniest thing was, I was like, Joe. I was like I was saying like, oh, it's so funny that these people I was like oh it's corny to like stressed about 9/11 and JFK when that shit was like Declassified already.
Yeah. 40. Fuck. Yeah it's irrelevant now and you're not tripping about the shit today and they're all like oh you're a Fed. You trust the feds. While you're there were saying like I was CIA from that. Yeah. Exact so dumb. And I was like, and I was just like, they were like, lecturing me about him. Like dude, this is like high school level conspiracy, no offense but like I was just like, you know exactly who
doesn't know whatever. I don't want to say that because I don't want to sound like that, but like I'm just saying like, yeah, look, what's happening today? What's happening right now? Can you apply that same level of skepticism and cynicism today? That's what I want to hear. And I'm listening I don't listen to any pot. Cast for like I heard a little bit of theirs and they were just, like, I'm scared. I'm scared, I don't know what's going on. It's so terrifying.
I'm just like the fuck you didn't like you. I don't know, man. I don't know. The 911. Parallel to me, is the most clear to me? It's like the ones are the yellow, orange M, fear. And now, oh, now we're going to war and if you're if you're not wrapped up in the fear and going along with this then you're a bad person. You're yeah. It's like yeah it's just like you hate the troops or whatever. It's just like yo. I don't know man. I don't know how many times it.
Away with this. But like, yeah, the left. That was another thing, I believe, please believe they're gonna do the exact same thing with covid, lockdowns and Five Years. It'll be safe to climb a lockdown stew, and all I've lost them. Yeah, yeah. But we're not, I'll do it an installment. They'll be like, okay, five years. This is 20 25 and we're going to do the covid series. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. All right man. Like that's cool. Yeah it Chomsky.
Let's go and then like and then you'll chomsky's the worst with conspiracy dude. He's like a young Chomsky but ya go. Ya know like the Dome actual know. Yeah. Are you his You guys heard his his JFK quote, you know, he's weird where he where people ask him is like, hey, like, you know, should we be concerned about you know, like JFK getting murdered by the CIA? And he's like, he's basically like doesn't matter like if they, if they did or not like
it's irrelevant, I'm like, bro. How is that irrelevant? Like how is that fucking cook as well? I am yo and he's feeling he's photograph. I didn't like you. Yeah, yeah, it's just discrediting everything he's ever done and everything's got this Trump's worse than Hitler, dude. Yeah, yeah. He said he's poses a Graver threat then to the, because his do was alive for Hitler. I don't ya. It's a logic was like climate change like you know, like we could end all of life on Earth.
It's like Trump's fault and it's not fucking your that and you're the biggest climate fucking guy out of anybody, you know, Mike's. I like it's not even like you, I got we do. Yeah, we yeah, that's right. You are like, you would be somebody that sees the climate change threat as like, for sure but threat than probably, Tom, Stephen does, but you're not going to do hyperbole. That. Yeah, like that.
Like, they all just fucking fell in line and even Adam Curtis, I'm hearing is fucking like, oh, yeah, Biden's, good blm's, good. And I don't look, I don't know if they're under any pressure to say any of that shit. But again, like, look, I don't care what you say when it's too late to say it, you know, I mean like Chapo shifting back and true. Not shifting back to like, oh this fascism thing is bullshit and like, oh, you know, The Democrats are no good.
I don't care what you say when it's convenient to say it. I care about what you say when it's not convenient, and I said that shit when it wasn't convenient and I got, right? I got cooked for it. And nowadays, you look around and even a lot of leftists are like, yo, lock downs and fucking fucked up. And a year ago they were making fun of all the Maga people for being empty lockdown. So it's like yeah, Applebee's. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you just want the your hair salon.
And to me when I hear that shit, I hear the well The Welfare Queen thing. I hear like, Oh yes, easy. You got a car. Oh, you're not Paulie. You're not poor? Yeah. You know, you know you're just a fucking crack addict and you can't, you know, you're not raising your kid right? And all that and you don't need this money. Why should I do? You got your? Yeah, you got Jordans. But you can't pay her. Yeah, it's that 15 years cycle. Where all the, all the right
wing takes become lib left. Take ya again, you know, it's, it's happening during the covid time. You even saw it happening. Like, if even during the covid time, you saw the political realignment happening almost at like, Like a one-to-one ratio. I was crazy like you see oh, George Bush George. Bush's cool. Now, because look at him and he was giving Michelle Obama candy. That's the realignment you were seeing right?
Like, because honestly, anybody who studies them enough knows that there isn't that much, dude, friends. But it's so yeah, seriously, I was so furious with because they're putting up some bullshit YouTube ads like maybe a year ago or so. Unlike you know, George Bush basically and being like they were shown him by doing paintings and he's like the most important thing is my veteran work, you know after My presidency is my veterans and he painted there was a soldier that was so, sad.
Man, is his face, was, like, fucked up from like a bomb or missile or something. Like his face is like melted basically, right? And George Bush like painted him like his hot face and I'm like, dude, you're the reason that guy's face is like that Didi, it's your lawyer. That's good work. You don't think people floating on air mattresses flooded neighborhood. Yeah. Now, this is no, he goes, no, but during that, when the, when the, when the guy said I was racist during that know, exactly.
Exactly, yeah. But you see the real? I'm not happy that you saw that happening during covid, right? And then with, with the Trump locking people in Vans, right? Like, oh, that was the other way, that's how they got antifa. That's how they got the antifreeze, which I, we always thought they were fucking lives. But like they, you saw that happen because it's like, well, I have to go.
Bye. And because at least by like they were doing this harm reduction with being arrested and it's a bunch of people who never get arrested deciding this and they're saying shit, like oh like will Biden will just lock me in regular jail under the three-strike rule and then reflect ruska pick me up in a van and take me on a fucking Joyride and you know yeah and then drop me off and they and like you saw that happen and and was like the left just crumbled.
Within totally did, it was built on stilts man, it was built on popsicle sticks. I'll admit I was a I was a lib about the van. Shit, I was like, you know, this is fun originally sure. But yeah, but then I was like and I still like for sure it was like a threat, you know, and I was but then I looked into it. I was like, it seems like they just drove him around for like 45 minutes and then drop them off, you know. It was like what they're like.
All right, get out of here. This is what is happening on.
The other thing is that they've definitely been doing that before Trump. You know, it's sort of like a lot of this stuff, like the Camp's thing and like a lot of this stuff, like it was already happening but now it's a big deal that Trump is doing and all the authoritarian stuff that the Neo lives the Neal. Cons do, it's all actually Trump and fascism it's like, oh, so when the Neolithic cons do it, it's not, it's not authoritarian, it's fine.
But, you know, yeah, this is thing is just like they, they pinned a lot of stuff on him and they use it as an excuse to be more authoritarian and I we got even more. We got contact tracing, we got all this patriotic to shit coming, like we got everything now. Now now it's the, you know, perfect, excuse for everything that they can do perfect. So, you know who I, you know, I have a rule, like, it's funny like it.
Going to sound weird when I said but who I actually have like a lot of respect for is Globe, Twitter and I know fed post has some Globe fans but gloves are on Twitter like me. Learn you look at the mule that like the new Libya. Well, here's the thing. They're the only people that 100% know what they voted for. Yeah. Yeah. There's a great Point. Look at it. Dude. They're like, yeah, Syria bombing fuck like they're like. Yeah, yeah, it's based you do that?
Like yeah, straight up because I was thinking about the other things I have. Have conviction? Yeah I think they liberals and I'm talking about regular liberals, not like you know media liberals. I'm the regular levels. Think they voted for like black lives matter they think they voted for, you know, all this kind of stuff but then like the Globetrotters like no, this is going exactly as planned. Thank you, it's mad.
Great whenever I bring up like, oh like oh you thought these leftist were against austerity and against War. They're actually doing it and then all of a sudden like somebody will be my mentions like oh that's based and it'll be like a neocon like Additionally Connor, a traditional new list and you're right. Like, I can't even get that mad. I'm like, hey, I'm like shit. Yeah, you know, at least at least that like, you know, yeah, you're not framing it in a way where it's like, no actually
bite. We're taking incremental steps towards you. So see ya. They know what they voted for and like with all the covid stuff like the covid thing does we are we can all agree. I don't even think with any kind of rigging, you could have taken the election from Trump if covid-19 in there interesting. Yeah, I don't know. You could have, I mean, it was definitely like a perfect use of that. It was like a alley-oop slam dunk, just a perfect covid-19.
Some older older Neo cons, like older conservative people just like, you know, reaganite people like that. That I don't know if they necessarily voted Biden, but they are. They I didn't go out for Trump because they were like yo I might die from this shit. Yeah. You know like and and I'm just wondering I'm wondering if that's like like could they have stolen the election from Trump? Without covid, without yeah,
with all the time. And even with the Time magazine shit, that we all read, like I get what that that happened. And yeah, but I'm not sure cause it was still kind of close. Yeah, that that is a good question. I think it was Paramount to it for sure. And I mean, like, I mean, a lot of people say, like, oh well, you know, covid is going around the globe. You think that this was all about American National politics and it's like, dude, last time I checked populism around the
globe. Got fucked up, right? And then the globe Lalit made a lot of money, you know, I mean and like, you know, people each country used it however, you know, useful to them, depending on their population. How much unrest there is and how much resistance there is so, you know, it seems Global to me. I don't think it's about Trump. I think it's about a broader thing that was going on Bannon was fucking running around the world like fostering, right,
wing nationalism. So, I mean, yeah, you know, I don't ya and and ironically yes, like the whole world is obsessed with American politics. So that Absolutely. Yeah, that's yeah. Like, I'm sure you guys have, we have listeners like, that are in countries. I'm like, why do you even care? You know, like, I'm like, why do you like it's crazy? Because like will have listeners that come from like fucking yeah, like, Netherlands and shit. And like, they'll be like, yeah,
they send this. I'm like, damn, dude. Like, I don't know. Shit about Netherlands politics. No, no please why. But what like again, it's America like it's like there's people in Canada that listen, that'll be like, yo, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in America because Trudeau's a cock and he's gonna try to fucking coffee. You got. Yeah. I mean we're the little police where the world Empire for now until it's China and like, yeah. It's a good point. Yeah.
It's just like I mean the point. Yeah. I mean the thing is like what we do has broader impact on other people but yeah, I don't think covid is about America per se. But yeah, I mean, we are a big element of what goes on. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, without the, without the mail in ballots. I don't think. Wait. So you guys both, you got both feel like it was Riggs. Oh, Amy. And I think my thing is, is everything, is every election is
rigged. This was like unprecedented technology though, and I do think they stepped everything up. Like, I think the shadow app was tested. Out against Berea had failed ever. He wins Iowa. Not a big deal. You know what I mean? If it fails then then you get then it's like all this shit. You know. Look, you got chan Zuckerberg coming in here fucking Mark Zuckerberg stepping in.
There's no way that they were like we still want a fair one, but here's all the technology, there's no way you're like that. So no and there was an unprecedented push regardless of whatever you believe like there was an unprecedented. Push from all this shit. Joe Biden. According to the votes is the most popular president in American history like come on. Did and nobody wanted them either in the end. Nobody wanted them, but he got more votes than anyone in human history.
Like come on, dude. And and what else was the other? The other thing that was I was, there's one other than oh, yeah. And this is the fact that if you have, if you question election integrity at all, you're a conspiracy theorist. Now, they're all end up and the fucking I love the. Yeah. In 2016, Russia totally interfere with our elections supposedly and then in 2020, leading up to the elections are like it's going to happen again.
Russia is going to interfere with our actions again, and then buying one. And they're like, actually these were the most secure lucky they tried. They tried their ass off to get into our fucking election. We just magically it was actually the most secure ever, you know, thank you. Yeah.
Yeah man. Thanks for saying that cuz like honest men, you know, it's so weird because like, they frame these things conspiracy but like it's like a normie take one, everything, you know, I mean it's like it's was more. Conspiratorial is believing what you guys say like the lives. Narrative like this more conspiratorial is, like I remember you saying, all this shit about Russia is going to get rigged and now it's super secure. Like we all remember this three years straight of Russia gate.
And now it's like, but like nobody. I've never seen an election like that. I mean, like, I don't know if Michaels disagree with me or whatever, but like, I don't think it was a regular rigging. I think that shit was rigged out the Wazoo, right? Right. I think that she's different going crazy on pressing. I've never seen anything remotely like that. And I mean, like, I again, this is why I was telling me Go to vote Trump because I was like, if they're gonna rig it, which I know they are.
I want it to be very obvious. So even if you lose, I voted for Trump knowing he's gonna lose because I want it to be extremely obvious. I mean, my brother State. Yeah, you're in a blue State doesn't even matter there. I mean, it's purely symbolic but like people in swing States. I was telling like, Voltron vote Trump because I was like, yeah, I want it to be very obvious, and, yo, the night of trump won, and everybody's mind to sleep thinking that Trump won.
And I mean, yo, Far as the idea of like always going to be a landslide, we have public with complete mandated whatever that area of is dead. The Narrative is completely dead. I don't know anybody who could see that election and have that thinking in their mind. Like I mean it wasn't it wasn't that, it wasn't it, there's no mandate, it was very contentious and I mean, you know, I don't know. I mean to me, it was very, it
was very clearly right now. Yeah, the mail in ballots, the lip endemic thing and and then after the elections are all celebrating and tunnels and Streets singing Hamilton. And like, who's that? That one fucking guy was like, oh yeah, this is wrong. That these people are a hockey game, like you know, all crowded together and the next I was a yeah Notre Dame football dude. Yeah Notre Dame football video night of the election. I'm a Notre Dame fan.
So I was watching the game. They had a huge win over Clemson way better than fucking Joe Biden's win, right? Just yeah. But, you know, right? Just beside the point but the, Zelda, the fucking that, that happened and the lives lives won't even allow themselves to be happy anymore. That's what I've come to realize like daylight, like they wanted. Can't even celebrate. They're like, oh my God, what is going Ryan? All right, Hannah Indiana, these all these Catholics there in
those. They're they're celebrating this wind. I'm like we're doing the same thing and then you get the guys doing the gymnastic. Oh yeah, but that's a bigger event. I got it. Does the virus know that right, right? Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'm sorry like I thought it was a virus.
I thought I yeah, I but till when a virus is woke its exact and I was like, I remember being so, like, one of my Live friends, I was like, I was like, either from celebrating now, like, like 44 Joe Didn't, I was like, you're solving it for Joe Biden, you know. And they'll what happened? The covid. And they're like, actually we're celebrating the end of fascism of course, right? You know, I was like, no. Did you know so yeah? Exactly. Yeah.
So it's fucking wild. Yeah. But I and I just love that, you know, like, like crk. You're not a white dude, right. And the whole that whole that, like Trump gained with every minority group lgbtq, it's so gold. I'm sorry. Absolutely, man. You got the Mario star. Dude, you got the, yeah. Have you touched Yeah, yeah, beat I'm like Anna. You have to acknowledge that
reality. Like even if you even if that shot, even if that disturbs you as like a lib or whatever you have to acknowledge, that's true. And you have to question why? That is like? Yeah, like my sister. I told her that she was floor. It's like she couldn't even believe it right? And I'm like it's true. You know? Like I don't know what she's like. Why would that even be a reality? I'm like, that's for you to figure out. I know why, you know, but, like, brought that up.
And I'm glad you brought that up because that was brushed over after the election. It was his sort of been Behold in a way, but and it's going to keep, it's going to keep happening. It's like, it's not going to stop next election sites. Those numbers are keep going to gone up for the oh yeah, over the GOP did. Yeah, well, yeah, well the GOP. I hate the GOP. I don't know. I don't know much. I don't know. I don't know how they're gonna do with like diversity or whatever.
I don't really know but like as far as Trump and you know Trump is useless to me. Now he's dead to me now after you called the National Guard on his own people, like whatever. I mean, he was just a tool to me. He was just a tool to be too slow. On the wars, whatever War we're about to get into, I'd rather have that happen five or ten years from now than right now, you know, just for whatever, whatever usefulness that is but
make sense. But yeah I mean but you know you know his supporters being like more minority or whatever. I mean. Yeah I mean all that shit about like to me like the woke. She was always the widest shit in the world who was always a super white champagne. They'll find a couple of minorities here. There that are like super bougie to push the worksheet here and there but like it was always Ways really white shit to me.
So it's just like, I always felt that way and like now with the, you know, you know, I mean, like, I don't know, go to the hood and Hood somewhere and try to talk like, woah shit to like Hood people. Like, I don't know, like try that. Go to the third world Lane pronouns, thank you. Try that shit there and see what they tell you like. What the fuck? They won't know what the fuck you're talking about.
But like, yeah. I mean like that, that election like yeah, and the Florida like fifteen dollar minimum wage thing with Trump. And like all these contradictions was like how can this be how can this be? And like, you know, Yeah, I mean I think it's I think it's I think it's a big sign that things aren't as simple as they say it is and not as binary and not people aren't as propagandized as they want to think.
I mean, that's a big thing is to make you feel like, oh, everybody feels this way everybody thinks this way, you know, it's a big part of the body and winning by mandate thing. And by a landslide is why they needed. That is to feel like, oh, anybody who thinks differently is fucking lunatics. Yes, are and they grow everywhere. One swab anally swapping. Their kids for covid. Exactly. Do it is the secondary 74 million. People voted for fascist.
So you know, I mean like she was like I don't want to feed into the narrative that these things are small and it likes live. I mean we've disagreed about this. He thinks that it is like a small thing but like, you know, they get a lot of power in framing these things. Things is a marginal but they're not marginal, they're not and, and You know, a lot of their power comes from saying like, oh, you're on The Fringe, your psycho, your crazy thinking this
way? It's like, damn, you know, if more people talk to each other, you find out the more people think this way than not. So you don't mean like, I don't know. That's how I feel about it, but like, what? We'll see over time. It's only yeah, it's only gonna get ya or parent. Well, I think was funny about that is how you said. It's like a binary thing and then even just in a broader perspective, like, look at every debate that's on Twitter.
Every debate that happens. It's such a binary thing, right? You can't, you can't be even Like and I won't even say the center, you can't have just a nuanced take where you believe one thing but hey but I don't exactly believe that. But here's the thing. Yep so the left and liberals mostly I will say conservatives the same way to it's such a. It's part of our bipartisan thing is we're like, eventually, like you have to fall in line with one of these things.
Even if you do have some, maybe some Fringe beliefs beyond that, but it's funny how like everything is a binary thing except gender, you know, like, oh no, it's like, you don't. Okay, let's say this, it's a social contract, it's a social construct, right? Okay. Yeah, sure. I actually, I actually agree. So it's a social construct, but like, nothing else. Can you can you ever like deviate from the other two?
That's amazing. Yeah, telling me that like I have to have this crazy broad view of like gender. Something has been hammered into my brain for life that there's only been two, right? And again, I'm willing to like, listen to anybody, it's not that. And I don't even, I don't know shit about gender, I don't know shit about gender needed. Strong of it take, but then like, they'll be like, oh, the capital I could be like in the capital thing was bullshit, dude, it's being overhyped.
Like, what are you there? Are you sure? Yeah, you're the person that's hammering. All this non, you know, non-binary. This all, it's not, every we need to be inclusive, but then it's like, well, I don't feel included. Yeah, really not more complicated than that. It really. And they want to make it so complicated that but it's really not. It's really bad. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people, man, they were people during on since 2016.
There were like friends of mine that were like, Shifting, the Trump, and I was scolding them, and I was like, what's wrong with you? Like, how could you do that?
Don't, you know, he's like, he's gonna bring like, you know, he's gonna be the precursor to some actual Fashions, whatever I was saying all this shit and like, there were people that were like, we were canceling like me and, like, people that I was friends with that, were, like, Lefty people, whatever, like, history people, like, we were canceling people, and it's just like, you know, I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just so
funny in hindsight. It's just, it's just, I mean, I deeply regret it. I really do regret it but like, yeah, I mean that's the thing. You wouldn't be where you were, if you weren't there. I don't think II, don't think. I think it's tough to like yeah, too. You like for me, I yeah, I'll say right now like because I'm afraid to get CR K screen capped eventually. So like I'll say right now in 2016, I voted for Hillary Clinton. I did I was a lip as a fucking
live dude. Like I was I need to live to man, I'm I wasn't looking for. I wasn't super fucking like invested in politics and I didn't buy any of the rush, it went after it happened on my gosh, she lost right. Right, right. Right. But she's not that good. It should have been Bernie. That was my take, right? And like, and which I found funny but like, you know, we all come from bike. That's why I'm laughing at all. Just circling back as well.
We'll wrap it up soon, but like when you, when you're, when you're getting screencap, I'll look what he said. 2019, he said in 2018 is like, dude, I said some fucked-up shit, like last week. Yeah, yeah, I'm shit. Last week. Do I should be on for that? I look, look, look, I mean, it's no secret. I used to be left aside, tell people all the time and look, I deserve whatever, whatever scolding or insult, that comes with that. I totally deserve that.
I own that because I said some fucked-up shit, I said, right-wingers should be putting camps and executed. I really said this shit. I really believe this shit. So look, I mean look, that's why I go. That's why I take it as hard as I do now because like yeah, I wish somebody back then I told me I was a fucking morgue, right? And so, I mean that's what I do
now. And like they take it personally and they show me that I said this too, but they still say the same shit, but you're not even coming back with their tail between their legs saying, like, you know what, man, I think think you might be onto something and being right about covid, being right about buying. And because that's going to be an evergreen tweet, do the Biden harm. Suction thing, like, looking at your Twitter right now and it's fucking the pin tweet. Well, I just leave.
Yeah, but just been leaving that cause might do it every day. It's going to be more and more power. I'm just leaving it because like, yeah, it's what I like about, what I like, what will you do with the pin tweets? Sometimes will be like, here's my predictions that came true, and then you'll be like, sometimes you'll be like, here's my predictions for the future and then other times, you be like, I don't know what the fuck's going to happen, like I
don't have any producer. Yeah, I know, but what do you predict shit? You're always right. You know, that's the crazy thing. But is there is there like I get this to be the last question is it is there is there a What do you like, where do we go from here? Because I struggle with that, too, when I finally get people thinking the way I think. Where do we go from here man? Like do you know or do you are we just trying to still change people's minds?
Well the most the most hopeful thing that happened to me was recently talking to some right wing guys about like getting some guests on the show whatever.
And just telling me like you know I think there's more in common than then we naturally think and like how are natural allies or whatever And like certain segments or whatever and like, you know, just just telling me that people that like, I previously would have written off and been like, oh, you're the enemy like you deserve the worst thing you should be like killed or whatever like yeah these people that I used to think that about like now I'm going to talk to
them and like try to find some common ground on because like you know you guys got rigged out right? You know if you're if you're a hardcore leftist you got got ripped out to Bernie or whatever. Right? You both got shut out. So let's what, you know, where no one's at the Table now. So why don't we all regroup and talk about what the fuck we want? And what the fuck, we agree on and deprioritize the shit that will never agree on, which is
the cultural stuff. Why do you prioritize that Andrea prioritize, all the stuff that the economic stuff that we might agree on. And so, you know, telling these guys, like I do I'm going to talk to them and like I feel I feel hopeful in that like, I mean, it's bad. What's going on and all that? Obviously, it's horrible obviously but I do feel like things are gonna get worse people getting it. Greer.
And they're going to realize that all this funneling from the right and left to the DNC in the GOP, people are just gonna get more. You know, as much as I rag on the left. Like there's a lot of leftist that are like yo fuck this shit and they walk away from it, 3 out of them, it's not just me. So, you know, you know, I feel hopeful in that down the line that like, you know, there's going to be something. I think, I mean, the only pill I have is the realignment pill. At this point.
I feel like I've got to realign it. They did right? If the the higher-ups realign. So it's kind of like, Exactly. I think there's going to be a lot of right wing left wing to sit in thought that basically re lines around new priorities of issues. People think these things are static and I don't understand why. Because, you know, you have a basic understanding of like a century of American politics. She changes all the time. Should realize all the time.
But like, yeah. I mean, I'm hopeful that, you know, will have these conversations and and think and things will change a little bit and, you know, people will think about these things a little Only, I've left this all the time, then hit me up like yo I'm thinking differently now because what you said or whatever. Like that's good.
Yeah, yes. I mean, you know, I don't know, I have to I'm not completely Black Hills cynical because if I was I'd be like some of these other people saying the cynical shit like, you know, maneuvering for like certain angles that I've talked to that, you know, I'd be more like that but I don't feel that way yet. Not yeah, yeah, that's good.
Nah, that's good. Because I was funny because I can we talk about all this stuff and like whatever it is people That are moved on beyond the left like one of the critics their critiques of that is I will then what's the fucking plan right now? I'm and and right, and I'm not saying there's a, there's a plan and if you if there is a plan you should trust the plan, right? And but but but I think that's coming. I cuz it's like people are like oh you want to talk to right
Wingers? Don't you know, I do every day I get paid to do it. Honestly. Yeah. I'm at my workplace with right Wingers. Like I don't have a choice. I have to. So like if you're privileged enough to never have to speak. Yeah right. Well we're you never. Yeah. Right. If you do ever have to and I live Fucking Bay Area, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like live fucking Central so it's like I still end up working with with right-wing people.
So it's like I might as well fucking try to get on the same page as them like you know I mean and tell him to fucking leave this dumb like mr. Potato Head gender bullshit like to the side because if that's what you're mad about, Buddy, you work a blue collar job with me like, you know, like it. Exactly. So I think you're right. I think we have to realign when the elite real lines. Yeah. Yeah.
And yeah yeah. Yeah. The other thing I just feel like it's like, when people ask me like, oh well what's the plan that what do you Have like sometimes it feels like that. Shopping cart in the in the market thing like shopping for ideologies. Like dude, you're not going to get like a box, you know. I'm not going to hand you a box of like things to believe. You got to figure this shit out for yourself. And this is the thing is like, you know, stop thinking of this
as like, oh well. Which brand do I buy now? Which brand of my own not stop thinking like that just talk. Honestly with people try to have real like we're having an honest conversation like just have honest conversation with. Yeah and maybe you can break past all these Stupid barriers that they're putting up that are completely made up. And if you really told the people honestly, it's it's is made of shit is made up and you you've inflated it more than it needed to be and you know, I yeah.
I mean I I really believe that. I think that. Yeah, I think people just need to have more of these conversations and and yeah, I think I think something will break through. I think it has something's got to give at some point. Yeah, an apolitical people will become political because they're not going to have less there have less and less after all this shit that we did. Exactly. Really like your politics are going to be right in front of you.
And that's what I like about. Like, a material is thing is like it's what's in front of you, right? Yeah. Right now I mean like when I when I try to read like I guess I hate the word radicalize because it's so like, you know, I don't know, whatever. I that's the term. So whenever I see people instead of, just like throwing all this literature at them that I know they're not going to fucking read, I just go like, all right, we work at the same company, let's look at our pay stubs,
right? Okay, let's find out what the company in charge for our services, Right company. Rock In your face. Oh yeah, yeah, in your face, this is the things, you know, everybody knows their workplace, it's where they spend the bulk of their fucking time, right? So yeah, I just certain things like that. It is good to talk to people, but I'm glad because like, I hate the way that we're all framed is just critics of the left and it's like, maybe that's what we are.
But I do think that there's ways to because we're never going to get this shit in our lifetime. I don't think that way that we want but we have to at least fucking we have to at least get people's minds right to where the Next Generation can have it. And if it does happen, it does. Happen. You know? Yeah that's the last thing I'll say about is like I just I just don't want.
I just wonder why there's so much resistance to just to question these things like this so much policing of like UK question any of this unless you have some Alternatives like well well you know I mean does that mean this is immune from criticism? Does that mean like we're so much effort on that instead of like well how about we just admit? That something is not working and let's just admit that and you can't even have a conversation. Station about are not working.
You can't even have the conversation. This thing that we're trying isn't working. So what will work? That conversation doesn't even happen like whenever they're telling like, well what's your solution like? Dude, we can't even talk about a solution because you're not allowed to talk about it. So, I mean like how about we start with that? How about we just have, how about?
We just allow that to go on without people fucking freaking out and calling you a Nazi because you're like, I disagree with lockdowns, what? Yeah. I disagree with what the Nazis would have done to us. Yeah. Yeah, I am a Nazi for that. Yeah. It's like Jesus Christ. You're not just Earth or Terry and I'll stay in your fucking house. Exactly, exactly. I really appreciate you stopping by man.
Yeah man. Yeah thank you guys because yeah I remember it's nice to come on individually and be like Yeah. Well yeah because you guys are different. Do I know you guys are different and you guys do disagree. So I'm like, well, we want to get the isolate. The yeah, that's like the freakin. Yeah, I listened to it. Like see. Uh, dude, like I've been, I've not even saying this as a
critique of the FED post. I don't hear him talk about like gardening that much on the FED post, because that doesn't really, you know, like it doesn't, it might not come up, right? But with me like with him and I was like we I was really getting into it and stuff and I'm like, well, let's bring him on and talk about that and how we can feed people, you know, and then slav Game Stops. It dropped. Right? In our lap. When it happened, right, right. Like it just, we didn't even plan.
A on that. But that's that was the way it was and like you know Slavs kind of like socially conservative, I was like what's really interesting? How like maybe this guy's not a fucking demon. You know, I mean for being socially, conservative and with you it's like shit. I II. We asked you to come on a couple weeks ago like like today but like I was like, fuck, dude. This guy's gettin screencap everywhere. Like he all year.
I've been seeing like people that I thought were cool like just fucking shitting all over him and stuff and like yeah it was like to get you guys. Isolated is really cool man. Like it's fun, I see that now. I see that now because yeah I mean like this stuff because I talk a lot and because I talk a lot on what have five fucking people on the fucking
programming. It's also that's also, yeah, we kind of have like our own angles that we can't really go fully into because we have to give space for each other and we know that we disagree on some courses. We just let it go. Yeah. So yeah, guys. Have that you guys have when I listened to it fed, promise you guys have such a Cadence and it just bounces back. It's just like a crazy energy. Think it's so good, man. Yeah, thank you. That. Yeah, we felt each other out
were like, alright. We know where you see, and I'm not going to Go into like well I think I mean, we're not going to do that shit cuz what's the point? Like I already know, you know, where I'm at, like, let's just figure out the rest of this shit. There's more interesting. Like, yeah, now I can call see, uh, Neal live in Slava neocon. I just can't really say that. What's the FED post patreon link switch. Go ahead and say that that post /. Pat. Pat Round / suppose. I think got it. Okay.
Yes everybody check that out. We do have a lot of crossover listeners, so a lot of them already do listen to you guys, but if you don't listen to Fed posts, if you like us, I would imagine you. You could at least listen to them. Get a different perspective. Still talking about material stuff. So anybody who doesn't listen to them should already and yeah, and if you're tuning in to us for the first time can see our case, I really appreciate it. I hope you stick around.
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Honestly, yeah, honestly I just want to say like I appreciate you guys like Tony guys very refreshing because like I've been talking to a lot of cynical like people that like I don't know feel like I feel like they've got like an angle or whatever in the media scape or whatever. I was really refreshing. Just talking to people that are just honest, you know? I mean I really had, we have fun. We have no ulterior but it's all I got.