CKY w/ Ryan Simón

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Have multiple magazine. I'm the happy man now, which we talked about. That's right. No one, no one knows that though, that you're the 1st. I I love an exclusive. I love I'm, I'm a journalist at heart. I love scoops. Yeah. The the happy man. We're joined by the happy man now. This is Ryan Simone, who is the owner of You're the owner of a Happy Man. Now, yeah, you're the owner. I did change. I did change it though to happy man dot me just because I thought that was funnier than

like.com. That is good. Yeah. So you that that was just sitting there. Domain name was just sitting there because, I mean, what's worse right now in 2025 than a happy man? Nobody. Wanted that. That's right, yeah. The happy woman is taken, I guarantee it. Well, it was like, it's basically like a Larry David spite store against one of my old clients and I was on a run and like the idea of like the happy man popped in my head. So I'm like, dude, if this mother it's there's a whole

thing to this. I was like, if this motherfucker wants to go at me, like how how dumb would he look coming after the happy man like that? That's an. Easy. Yeah. Yeah. How? Yeah, it's easy to pick sides on that one. I already I already picked the side, so I'm going to tell you. What I'm not going to happen. That's a men's health show first and foremost. So if I'm signing to get that's the name. If you hated me, that would be the best way to do it 'cause you're like, wait dude, are you

against the? Happy man, Yeah. What the fuck's your show about then? You know I. Do like Matt Seany dubbed me Lord Bulgaria which I. Like that a lot. I like that. That's a fun one. That's very Bam Margery. That's very Bam core Lord and like his like medieval times, like magic pickup artist. Yeah, exactly. Yes, that's very much that. Yeah, that's that's good. So you have a new magazine called Ritsuko. That's right. That is it's gone to print or has not yet.

This is coming out today. It's gone to print. It took a minute because the the dimensions on Ritsuko are a bit they're off and this one is just so packed that like whatever I I had to like shop around for printers for this one, but it's finally in production. Now there's a lot of listeners right now that probably perked up when they heard Ritsuko. They're like anime. Yeah, I mean, that's right. Pretty sure a lot of people were like, wait, hold on. What? It wasn't what was called what?

So yeah, I've glanced at it. It's it's wonderfully put together. You have a style for sure. Like I'd be able to pick it out now like a distinguishable style. Like if I, if you didn't tell me you made it, I'd be like, oh, that's, that's Ryan that, that did this. You also gave us a, a very nice ad in your magazine for our horse feed, which is available at rarecandy.substack.com. And I'll, I'll display it with, with people. Let's see.

Oh gosh, I don't know how, how I do this here, but you can. I, I will display it because, well, maybe I won't. Oh, yeah. There we go. This is our. This is our. This is out here. This is beautiful. People on YouTube, they can see it. I mean, look, guys, I mean, what? What more can you do than this? It's a horse. That's how you describe us. You know, that's just what it is. That's what we are, first and

foremost. I mean, today's episode is absolutely going to be maybe the genesis of millennial horsing, surely. But, yeah. Where can I get Ritsuko at? It's at americanbulgaria.com. The current issue is the second one, but yeah, it's the I'm calling Like the Music, the music magazine offshoot of American Bulgaria. The the whole thing's kind of becoming this like Russian nesting doll of best. Way. Yeah, I even had a thought too

at one point. Like, dude, maybe I'll do like a music project that's like a subcategory of Red Suko and just just keep like going deeper into the labyrinth, you know? Yeah. Stuck with the Minotaur you know and no one knows what's what. Maybe it's our generation or something because you and I are around the same age, I think. And like, like, like we the Russian nesting doll.

I just feel like that's just like what we do because there's so much like, like you, you'll I'll always hear from people Like, dude, focus on one thing centralized around there. I'm like, yeah, but I don't want to do that. It's nice to have different arms and brand. I don't know if especially like doing any project that like you kind of just get bogged. I do at least get bogged down by like the aesthetics of one thing.

Then like you have another idea that pops up because I was thinking about that with your ad where it's like, what should I showcase here? It's like there's rare candy, there's gain of fiction, there's psyops, you know, there's a lot to roll with there. Well, I still don't know what our show is. Like people have asked and I, and they mean, well, I know nobody's doing this to like, bother me. I, I maybe they will at some point. It's like a postmodern thing.

But like, I, I, when I go on someone's show, they go like, hey, like, describe your show. And I, I know what they're doing. They're giving me an opportunity to showcase it and stuff. And I'm always like, man, I, I don't know. But the horse, yeah, just like, like horse is fun and fun without the adults in the room, you know, like it's like it's essentially and it's everything. And and it's also men's health. It's getting, you know, it's a

lot of books and all that stuff. You know, it's just that you can come to later. But the first thing, the reason I want you to just come to this show is like, well, that looks fun. Dude, the horse is great. You could like Joe Camel out with that and create a whole avatar of the horse, you know? Yeah, Joe Camel, but like a horse with a cigarette, Yeah, that would be sick. Like a different. OK, yeah, now. Some like reishi and. Yeah, just all that stuff, but

stack of books next to him. Yeah, absolutely. That's right. Absolutely. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, guys go out, go on and and and get yourself an issue. I mean copy all of it. I mean, if you guys haven't checked out American Bulgaria and stuff, it's not time sensitive. I mean you could, I mean 50 years from now you could be picking up magazines of that because you know, at the end of the day, the stuff in there age as well. Let's just say that much. I saw it by the way, I was in an

antique store. I was talking about vacation earlier. I was in an antique store in Petaluma, CA and it's a big time like dead head town. I'm not sure if Jerry's like was big out there or anything, but it's by San Francisco, so he might even be from there. I could be just I don't, I'm not a dead head, but sure. He, he, there's all this like Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesch stuff everywhere. But then like antique stores, man, vintage Playboys go crazy there. Like people that's like #1 stuff like guy.

And I saw this guy that looked like rake yawn buying a stack of Playboys and and. I got a whole lot here. Yeah, it's like. One stacks in here. Yeah, You know, like he was buying him and I, I like nudged my wife and I was like, the guy's buying. We weren't hating or anything, but like he turned him over. He turned him over it like as he was waiting for his receipt and stuff, he turned him over on the counter and it was like, no,

that's no big deal, dude. I mean, like, I mean, that's like the most, that's like the most like banal thing you could be doing now, like, you know, at these places, but they go kind of crazy. So maybe, maybe one day, you know, like we all hope our art lives beyond our our allotted time on earth. And I, I maybe one day it's just like an antique store or like some fucking, you know, rake, yawn looking guy. Like I saw that guy. Oh, that guy never leaves. That guy's always going to be

around. Is the rake. Yawn, Will. Be mammoth like caveman Schoolhouse Rock caveman guy like that guy will always be around, but maybe he'll be buying American Bulgaria, you know, 100 years from now and you know, you want we all want to be popular during our time. But it I also have this like weird kind of like desire to where it's like this was discovered after he died. Yeah, I I feel that too. Yeah, and it's weird, 'cause like that's not good, you know?

I don't know. Though, 'cause like I thought about that too, 'cause I have like print, print on demand options for the mags, but that like it's nice to have like a limited supply, you know, instead of just I, I kind of want to remove that so they, they can attain more value over time. So there's like fewer of them. But but I mean the whole point of a mag is like to do numbers,

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I mean, I'm sure there's going to be people that are experts in the band, experts in skating that are going to be all. Why didn't you invite me on? Well, I was like, you know what? I was watching CKY videos. I think I had heard an old video of Sam Hyde and Nick Rush for talking about CKY. It it just in passing, very passing comment they made and I was like, I'm due for a rewatch because I I didn't I've been

rewatching. I've I've been watching these things not since they came out, but like since the early 2000s and I was like, I'm due for a rewatch and I was mesmerized, not by so much what they were, but I was like, this is so much more artful than like, like this was retarded at the time. Like, you know, like it was like that was the selling point of it to me was like, wow, this is like pure like this is the dumbest thing I could think of, but I would never do it because

I couldn't. You're a everyone's a pussy. That's The thing is you watch it and you look vicariously through these guys and you try it in your yard and you're like, I'm way too much of A pussy to do this. And you film yourself doing it. But you see yourself like bracing yourself for falls, like shopping cart stops a little short of the curbs all easier. And you're like, wait, I could never do this. But now I'm like knowing doing this, you're doing a magazine, all these things.

I'm like, all of these moving parts are happening and this is pre Jackass. Jackass was this maximalist signal boosting of all of this that really complicated it, but also broadcasted it to a wide audience. But CKY was kind of like was kind of pornography in a way to gay guys. To gay guys. I'm learning it was pornography the whole time, which I think is disgusting. They were watching Jackass and CKY and jacking off to it, which is disgusting. I There's so much poop in just butts and.

I which doesn't sway I'm probably. The whole, the whole time you're watching it, you just like it it just like you can just smell feet. It just has this like foot aroma to it. It's so gross, dude, it's so gross, but it's so and I and like, I feel like you're supposed to age out of it being funny, but I found it even funnier.

I mean, I want to totally. I was, I was talking to my buddy about this who's like a huge bam head and we're just like, yeah, dude, anytime I watch this, it's just like, you want to call it the boys? And it's like, you know, I can make a video, you know? I mean, it's like, you know, it's like when the Michael Jordan last dance documentary came out. Every 45 year old ex Hooper with like bad knees is like, let's get the court.

Let's go out. Let's let's let's go out to the court and do it like the old days, you know what I mean? And it's the same injuries you have to worry about. But it's just this was a certain type of guy who I won't say doesn't exist now, but if he did exist, it's very much in an Internet setting. We kind of get peek too much behind the curtain all at once. It becomes this all-encompassing channel on YouTube. And also it's derivative of a

bunch of different things. And you can kind of, oh, that guy's doing this, that guy. When CKY happens, you realize you're like, OK, this is a this is a young kid with an older brother who has a band. You know, the the young kid is like already kind of a professional skater already making a bunch of money at Toy machine.

At the time, Bam Margera was and his brothers got kind of like a band that would perform in like Westchester, Pennsylvania parks this like these kind of this, this gross music that doesn't really have a home unless the brothers like smacking poop on Ryan Dunn's face, jumping off of things. And then all of a sudden you hear a song about I caught my daughter giving head to my brother while that's happening, which is a masterpiece of a song, by the way. It's a great song. It's unbelievable.

It turns into like Black Sabbath like crazy and stuff. You're like, this is nuts. And you're like, wait, all of this was meant to happen. And these two guys come from the same family where, you know, you're a parent. You're probably thinking like, holy fuck, what would I do if those were like my kids? You know, like, because, but also like, guess what people do when those are their kids now? They pump them full of medication and that's a whole

another nightmare. You know, like it's like these these kids like what they were the parents. There's like legitimately like Phil and and April are like probably not good parents. Like I see these retrospectives on Bam. They're like, yeah, we didn't really do chores around the house. It's not really our thing. And like, discipline. It's like, oh, we just gotta let kids be kids.

And like, meanwhile, like Ryan Dunn flips over a Taurus going 100 miles an hour with your like 16 year old son in there and they're like, Ryan, you're crazy, man. Such little assholes. I've, I've always thought about that and wonder about that with like back when I'd like watch Viva La Bam. And I just, I just kind of reason like, well, the parents are probably making a shit ton

of money off this too. So they're just like letting it go. But it's like, how do you, how do you even like create this in the beginning? And that whole friend group is like, yeah, there's, there's a lot of them and they're all on the same level. So what happened IA lot of the it's weird because every time I think I know the genesis of CKY like 5 years prior, something

happens. Like I'm like oh in 1992 actually something I'm like well OK, so here's where I know where it starts at. There's Jess Margera along with a couple other guys start the band CKY. And then meanwhile, Bam is a sponsored skater and he's making these skate videos because growing up, the dad, Phil Margera, who if you know Bam, you know Phil. He's he's a very big part of it, often times the butt of the

joke. But you realize when you see a lot of the early skits that Phil was involved in all the skits, even as an actor, like he's like acting as a shop owner and all these things. So you know he's in on the whole thing. Obviously, even if he is genuinely shocked and pissed off at 2:00 in the morning of his son kicking his ass when he has to be at work at like 4:00 in the morning. Like I was like, dude, I'll kill you if you do that to me. Bam, like straight up.

But you get, you realize that Bam is a good skater. In fact, he's a great skater. He's probably never going to be the greatest skater of all time. He's probably not going to have this like, you know, whoever the best is, you know, there's a million different debates on it. But you realize halfway through, I guess he said he would because Phil filmed everything they were doing when they were kids, like skating, jumping off of stuff.

He was like a big sports guy. But he's like, my kids are active, but they're not into like sports. So he's like, I stopped what he's like. I stopped watching sports and just filmed everything they were doing. He had this big massive camera that he would take to skate parks and film Bam skating. And then meanwhile the half the time they would just be jumping off a shit half the time, like with no skateboard and he'd be

like, this is probably not good. But then meanwhile Bam is like doing all this editing and and if you know, one of the big reasons I wanted to do this is because the 20 tens Bam Margera that everyone sees as like a meme and definitely it's own source of entertainment. I find it very sad to be honest, but this guy's actually really good and smart and funny and like, like he's really smart and really dedicated.

I mean, the part of the reason he fell off is because he wasn't doing drugs until he was 25, which is a type of guy that often times spirals into horrible addiction in his 30s and 40s is when he first gets a taste of it in his mid 20s before not having bad experiences before that to kind of weighing you off in your teens. And he's but Phil is filming all of this and Bam is putting together these compilations and selling them. He's just like selling them and skaters are coming by.

Word of mouth is happening. And from what I gather, his first initial run of CKY stuff, he was a millionaire off of that off off selling tapes. Was it land speed or? So I, I could be having those numbers like I feel like again, we're talking, I, I remember. Reading them. Yeah, he put up some big numbers for that. Well, I was. Like selling those like. VHS tapes and yeah, because you. Look at CKY one, it's very

measured. It's very like, OK, I have this in front of me, I have this in front of me. What's the funniest thing we can do? But then by CKY 2K, they're in Iceland and they have sports cards and stuff because you're like, it hit big and this is great Jackass. Jackass did not happen yet. So you're like Bam's not making all this money off of skating, though there is income from that. He's he 411, which was a skate video distribution company.

I used to have four O 411 VM was Avhs tape that I had that I really liked growing up. But he they would distribute it. I think that was his first main distributor and they would sell it and he said these things were like flying off the shelves. People were like pissed off that they wouldn't get them.

All the skate shops like nationally would sell them and 411411 told him they were like, Oh, it's only sold in in America. And he goes, this is your numbers and it's only being sold in America And Bam's like, well, bullshit, man. I just went over to Iceland and and kids were asking me to autograph their fucking Iceland copies of it. And so like they were getting he was already getting scammed off that because he was a young kid. Basically it. Oh, we'll, we'll skim a little

off the top. We'll sell it like nationally. But this dude, I don't think anybody, including people who gave him money or, or were able to distribute it or signal boost them a little bit, I don't think anybody was was ready for how much this would take off, you know, like it's crazy.

Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of a through line of his career working with these people is just getting taken advantage of through like Jackass and whoever you worked with because essentially, I mean my understanding was that is Bam and Novak. Yeah, Novak, what were their discovered by like Tony Hawk and yeah Brandon. Brandon's thirteen years old and like, on heroin. Yeah. Brandon Novak, It's fucking

he's. He's dark, dude, The like progression of like Jack and everything, and he just becomes dark, Yeah. And you see him like you see them, they're all like at the bar like talking shit. And Brandon Novak's like fucking and he's like, they're doing that like vagrant style junkie stuff. And you're not like he's. Not even like 20 in the thing.

You're like, Oh my gosh, I mean, he's he's doing like sobriety stuff now, you know, like, which hopefully that's the name, but like, yeah, anyways, you were saying like it's yeah, Bam and Novak and and done and all of these guys focus on skating. The night, like you said, I don't know, there's multiple origin points. There's something about them all meeting or like doing this stuff because they had like a shared

like graphic design class. I'm I'm guessing in like high school I thought was like college. Yeah, high. School is a very formative thing for them because Rab himself, who looks like 12 in he say why he's such a he's hysterical. I mean he is one of him and Brandon Theo are the funniest fucking people. I I got that like. That laugh we could like see all like top bottom of his I legitimately.

Looked like that because I, I didn't, I, I looked really young, like, like all the time, like I was a late bloomer and stuff. So like when I was like 16, I like, looked like that. And I had the fucking stupid like, like, like chick, like baby chick hair, like that's like should be buzzed or grown out. It's like in between constantly and then the braces and stuff. But what's funny is you can tell that Rab himself, he already got kicked out of school for like shitting in someone's locker.

And you could tell like Bam's like fuck yeah, dude. That's the. Chick guy and then like Brandon. D Camillo is like the voice guy. And what was funny about me is I always hung around skaters in high school and I had a skateboard. I could ride it. I could like ride around skate parks getting off the ground. Never my thing. Like I was always just like I I could. I think there were a few skate videos. I like film. They sucked, right, But it was just the fun.

Like you have to kind of know how to skate. Actually, you have to really know how to skate to do a skate video because you're riding a board and filming at the same time. Didn't go well, but I always I had I was funny at the time. So like they would keep you around because you were funny. Now, if you were like lame at skating and not cool, that was when everybody got on you. It was it was. But you these guys like got in where they fit in. You know, like Ryan was a crazy

stunt guy. Like he was just like a crazy drive. Obviously it didn't end well, but like you would drive 120 miles an hour to Ford Taurus like through like rural Pennsylvania. So it's like, OK, we have a guy that does that. We have Ray Kion who's like in between the band and the skate. He's not in the band, but he looks like he could be in the band CKY and then he's also there, but he's just gross. Oh, he's. He's so rancid dude when he's getting his. Ass eaten in CKY or by a random.

Girl by a random. Girl on the street and you're just like wow people and like just eating rake yawns ass. I mean like with that woman you're like, what is going on with you? Are you kidding? Oh I know dude. It's so funny because my, my, my kids sick. So she didn't home with me today and I've been doing D camilo's like rake voicer all day. Just oh woo D woo. Woo woo. I know. And the Rab. The Rab himself. Yeah, Kitty, Kitty, Kitty. Did you like? This.

I love that shit dude did. You did you watch Haggard? Have you seen that one? I did. I I. Have but not for this. It was many years ago. I that's the problem. It's like, dude, the DVDs, I've tried to find DVDs. They're expensive as fuck right now. These things are relics, like, but Haggard is special to me because we use that word a lot in high school. Like, like, and you realize, you're like, fuck, we got that from Bam. Oh yeah.

Yeah, everything was. From Bam like everything fun was like in high school and middle school was just from Bam, but what what was happening in Haggard just like. Rab does that voice the entire time and it's so fucking funny with the. Cats, the stray cats is the fun. I don't know why it has been fucking stitches.

Like there's yeah, it's like, yeah, because you, I love the I because I love, you know, picturing the friend dynamic where Rab's just like, I have to constantly be doing something crazy because I can't skate, you know, or like I'm just not good at this shit or, or, you know, he's probably an OK but not enough to be, you know, hitting, you know, 12 stairs and stuff. And like, you know, anything to make the movie.

So him and Brandon Decamilo are just like, they're just like almost competing with each other to like, get their comedy in there, even though like, we, we just want more of both of them all the time. And the way these movies work is like, you'll see a skit, you'll see the skit, you'll see actual legit skate runs like where you're like, oh, wow, you're like expecting the guys to fall. And you're like, oh, wait, that was actually really fucking sick.

Wow. Yeah. You know, And then then you see people following all the time. And then it'll be Bam's comedy, which is actually really funny. He was like, really funny when you would just walk. He was really good at like, bothering you on the street, not like doing anything to you, like, but he would just. He has this one that kills me where he's at this some sort of festival. I can't tell if it's a skate festival or music festival. And he's walking and this guy.

And it's like a bunch of kids because you guys like ska, You guys like ska. And then the guy's like, yeah, yeah, I like Ska's fucking gay. Yeah. I was like that was literally why I can't stop saying gay and retarded now is like because I've been. Doing it. For so many years, you know, and these guys are like, when you watch it, your relationship with these guys, if you're a little bit younger than them than I was, we're the same generation, but I think I'm about four or

five years younger than them. And you're just like, these are my older brother's friend. I don't even have an older brother, but I had friends, older brothers that were like, what can we do to not look like fucking retards in front of these kids? And then half the time it's like actually you need to look like retard.

Like that's the only reason they'll hang out with you is because you're kind of laughing at you a little bit and you just you picturing yourself like, what could I do to make these guys laugh, you know, and like make the like stand out to these. It's actually kind of embarrassing. You know, like like think of yourself that way. But we all were like that that.

Was like AI mean. That was the whole tone of Haggard, which was funny because like the story centers on whatever character Ryan Dunn plays and he's all torn up over this girl that he's on a Jen Revelle that she's they took a break and then she gets fingered by a by Rick and he's so upset about that. But the the whole tone of the like he's the center of the story, but the whole tone of the movie is like this guy's a total faggot for being concerned with

this woman and what a bitch. You know, and that dude. That's totally like when I mean so much of this, like you're saying you watch him now and like the kind of experimental production of it stands out and like survives across time. But there is a whole portion, like the whole lot of CKY was a bit of like, you had to be there, Like, yeah, you had to be like a middle school boy and nostalgic. You're laughing nostalgically, you know?

Yeah, yeah. Because like it really did just consume like Bam is like he always like permanently has like a chubby middle school boy face too. Like he's just like despite being. Bulimic. It was bulimic about the time I said that was AI watched this Vice documentary, which is really funny because Bam's yeah, actually an awesome podcast guest all anytime he goes on a podcast, he's awesome when he's like. Even when he's like, it's so.

Kind of like strung out. He's still really funny, which you you understand why like people give him like 80 chances because he's really fucking funny. And you're like, God, I would fall for that every damn time. Like and he but he was talking about yeah, all all sorts of that, like all sorts of funny stuff, like just just on on those podcasts about I'm trying. What were we just talking about? The the is like. Middle school babyface. Yeah, yeah, he. Was like he was on vice.

There was a vice thing though, like about where they're kind of like what happened to Bam Margera, kind of like kind of condescend, condescending a little bit like very vice. Like some guy with stupid glasses on, like just Bam. You know, that was a big thing. And in the 2015 to like 2020 come down they all wanted to use him as this like lol cow like guy to laugh at. I didn't find any of it funny. I remember I listened to Come Town at the time and I was like,

this is fucking stupid. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, I was like. This is like, this guy's cooler than you, you know, and I'm not even hating on them. I just mean this guy's cooler than you. I hope you know that like, and the whole reason your shit is about being gay with your dad, the podcast about being gay with your dad. The only reason anybody has a fucking fan base is because we all came from CKY, right? And, and, and Jackass and all that stuff.

Like that's the same humor. So it's like, it's really weird to do stuff like that to like people, you know? But anyways, he's in this, this DVD or whatever, this, this thing and he's, and he's like, yeah. And I got like bulimic because he his dad was like really fat. And he's like, I really don't want to be fat. He goes, I'm set to skate. I could totally. See that? Yeah, he's like I have to. Skate because you could see right now like he's fighting that body type. Oh, he's filled.

Out yeah, that's like his genetic destiny, like if he has a. Bad month eating. He's Phil, you know what I mean? That was the funniest. Shit like on like him around Phil and Don Vito and it's like just these like Oh my God. Behemoths and. I could see him being bulimic. Yeah, they. Said I guess April was like, especially back in the dude, like he was shirtless constantly. Good girls loved him. That was that was the other psychological thing. As a Bam Margera fan, you're

like, wait, you love this guy? But I jumped off the fucking the the theater the other day and you didn't laugh at that. Yeah. Like, yeah. And it's like, oh, wait. That's because this guy's fucking famous and funnier than me and that he's the fuck the shit about. Like Johnny Knoxville made sense because he's like the pretty boy of the group.

Yeah, you know, yeah. Bam is like Bam is striking, looking like when you see him like he has like a like you could definitely tell like on camera, but girls loved him with the with the him tattoo. I remember the. Harder, Graham. Stuff they loved him, but it was like, it's funny because you're just like, oh, this is how I get girls. I'll just do the Bam stuff. And they're like, no, you don't understand it.

Like the first CKY, the first CKY, there's no girls in it because you probably aren't around. And he talked about after that came out, he's like, all of a sudden I'm invited to every high school party. Like CKY comes out and they find out I'm like sponsored skater Cuz you just for a while it like skaters weren't like that cool in school. They were kind of just like burnout junkie guys that so I wasn't invited to like the jock

parties or anything. Like once I got to high school, it was like a kind of that all like merged together. I think it was pretty segregated at that time. And then CKY two, you have like girls just like nude in it and stuff like Y2K and stuff. It's like that's that's why you when I, when I say now is like for anybody who's making art to like get girls like just make art that you like and if it's successful, the girls will like it automatically. So don't like don't make girl art for.

Like. Don't do that. Like it doesn't work. Like I'm just saying it doesn't work. Like you. They have to look and they'll be like, wow, he's on MTV, wow. And then they immediately like it so. That's just the way the. Way I've I, I that's a big I've seen a lot of people who are like starting out and they're like, this is going to be my girls song. I'm going to write a song for girls. And it's like a pussy. You sound like a pussy. Dude, like, I mean, if it's natural, if that's what you're

naturally doing, go ahead. But like, it's just yeah, you got to. Girls will like anything as long as you look like you're succeeding at it. Dude, this came at a. Good time for me because I've been like working on the mag and like with with the design work I've been doing, I got really into like Bon Oliver, like 4AD album cover kind of stuff. And I feel like if you see his stuff, it's like it's really it's really pretty.

And I really just kind of got to a point where like I'm spending like most of my days thinking about like making shit look pretty, you know, And that gets to a point where like, dude, what kind of a pussy am I becoming? And so like watching like CKY got, it's like the way they slop these things together is, I don't know, it recalibrated and it's so. Primal, you realize I got like this is the that This is why it works so well is because you're

like, if you're a guy. I don't know what young men think about nowadays, because I don't. I just don't even see kids playing outside anymore. I don't know. Yeah, this instinct, they're like this impulses. I don't know. But like when you're with my I was just like, that's every dumb, the dumbest idea you can think of. Somebody did it. Basically.

That's when you watch CKY. You're like, wouldn't it be funny if I like took a shit off of like the open ass and you look and it's like, and then guess what, Brandon Brandon Dicamillo took 19 X lacs and shit off the fucking and Rav himself. I think it was Rav himself that did a lot of that stuff, which later became Aaron Mcgahee in in in Jackass. But he would just take like 19 X lacs and Sprint as fast as he could and like shit.

And you're just like like, no, anybody now it's like, well, why would you do that? I'm like, you're right, why would you do it? But everyone's thought about it. Oh yeah, that's a weird guy thing. Like it's a weird guy thing, you know? Like I, I was thinking about now. You can go on. No, because I. What I meant was my, my, I remember asking my wife once when like the burner was really hot, like, you know, like just the, the coil burner, like on this.

Yeah, it's really hot and it's bright red. I'm like, don't you sometimes want to just fucking smack your hands? Totally, totally like and she goes. No, and I was like, wow, I was like, yeah, that's maybe maybe we are different. Like that's like like that's because I I don't not going to do it, but I like you think about like it would be so crazy to just fucking head butt that thing real fast.

Like what would happen? Obviously we know what would happen like, but it's just there's like that weird unknown thing like I think we kind of kind of want to hurt ourselves. We. When I was first thing out with my girlfriend, we're just having a couple of cigs and I was, she caught me just sitting like staring at like, you know, the lit end of it, just like, what are you doing?

I was like, Oh, I just, I was just imagining sticking that right into my eye and like what that would look like and my contact lens like bubbling. He's like just sit and think about that shit. They even like. They don't know. They don't know. They don't. They cannot compute that, that

you would think, yeah, but. No, we do that shit like in like in high schools, like yeah, out here, Lolo, Mt, we'd have shit to do. So it's like my buddy and I would like go to I remember like the cotton candy Blizzard became a thing and we'd get like the largest cotton candy extra candy with the intent to make us like vomit and it and it worked. And just like on like one of those old LG flip phones, just like this pink projectile vomit kind of shit.

Or, or we'd like. I was thinking about this with like the Camille was like wooty woo his voice. Like my buddy Zach and I, we would there's a pond down here and there's like a few weekends where we just like go out there just just be ass naked for like a couple hours. And I don't, I don't think like a human sound came out of our mouths that entire time. Yeah, we're just just making these animal noises and it's the funniest shit.

And you hate to. Sound like a boomer and it's kind of hacked, but like you didn't have a phone, you didn't have the Internet. The. Internet was pretty finite. Like you couldn't spend all day on the Internet. I mean, some people did, but that was weird if you did, you know, like if you spent all day on the Internet, you were like a kind of a weird kid back then. Sorry for anybody who's listening. That was like 40 years old that spent all the time on the Internet. That was a niche thing.

That was like a, oh, that guy's on the, that guy's into computers. You know, like you're just like new your friend, like you're like, well, yeah, he does that all day. So you're just like, well, OK. That's why CKY 1 is so magical. The first one is like, because it's straight up like, what if we just fucking jumped into that pine tree? Like that pine tree, It's very much the burner that I'm talking about. It's like that pine tree's been staring at me the whole time.

It's like a man conquering nature kind of situation, but you're not you're like hoping you lose. You know, that's what the beauty of CKY. You're like, if I lose this rules and I remember Bam talking about the difference between a skate video and just shithead jumping off of stuff. He goes, it doesn't you can get the take right the first time because it's like whatever happens, that's what makes the film.

He's like with skating, you spend 8 hours trying to like clear something, you know, or, or or you know, trying to whatever off on the ledge or something. You're trying to do all these things. And he was talking about when he got to Jackass or when MTV started getting involved, which I have a little bit more of a disdain from the more I learn about the insurance and outs of CKY is the, you get the Jeff Tremaine's, you get all these MTV directors and they're like, I remember this when it

happened. They had the loop, the skate loop in the backyard. And it was Tony Hawk was there as a huge and the director was like this guy. And he's like, all right, do the loop and action. And they're like, dude, this is going to take like 5 hours for us to get this. And he's like, what? He's like, yeah, no, he's like this, this is hard.

Like you want us to do that? He's oh, I thought you guys just like do it every time And and he's like, no. And so that's why Jackass complicated A lot of stuff because it was like the CKY thing. They had all an understanding of what was to happen. They're like, we have nothing to do today. We're going to drive around Brandon D Camille used to talk about like he would prank call half the people or or like fuck up their mailbox because they didn't tip him.

Like he was like, these are the people that stiffed me on a tip. So now they're going to be in a video. Yeah, or the shit dollar, right, which I don't know if they started, but the shit dollar is one of the funniest pranks I've ever seen in my life. Like it kills me every time. The the for anyone who doesn't know, again, these are all on Internet archive. You can find them. They're they're pretty much all on there.

I know that all the CK wise are, but the they they somebody would wipe their ass with a dollar like, and I'm talking like fresh shit, like wipe their ass with it. And you turn the dollar over on the ground and you film somebody by an ATM pick it up and kind of like, and one guy picks up is like this geezer guy picks it up and stuffs it into his pocket and and and he's like, Oh, what the fuck, He's like smells his fingers and and bam, the whole time Do we got to give the son

NDA, man. We got to get inside the NDA like so he could show his face and the guys like in the party said, why would you do that? He goes, well, you didn't have to pick the dollar up. No one said you fucking had to do that because of course I'm going to pick the freaking dollar up, man. And but it's funny, the whole time you just realize you're like, well, they are showing this guy's face. So he did sign that.

Probably, Yeah. After a while, they probably got him to do it. I was wondering how. Many people even sign yeah cuz there's a lot of footage out in yeah out in public. I don't I don't remember 1 face like lured out. I think some. Are some are orchestrated like the ones where they're kicking like I love this skit too. The 1:00 where they're kicking field goals into car oncoming traffic as like. Frenchman, I think. One guy I. One guy was Don Vito, so I was like, oh shit, that's Don Vito

drive. It was before anyone knew who Don Vito was. So it was like I was like, so I was like, are all those? It doesn't matter. It's still hysterical, but the one of the one that is really funny and I think as you get older and maybe a little more conservative in your actions, it actually becomes funnier, is the where they throw the dummy off a bridge onto a car. Because you know how. Pissed you would be if you were or how scared you would be if you were driving and that

happened. But also that's why it's funny. Like that's why it's funny because you like as a kid you're like, why is that guy getting so mad? It's just a prank. Like, you know, you're like what a loser. You're like, no, I understand why that guy's getting so mad, But also you look down and you see it's a dummy and you're the guy's just mad because it scared him, not because you know, it's just, they just would throw it off a thing and you, you, you, they probably had to film it

like 50 times. That's so hard to time, you know, to have it hit the thing. And we used to do that with water balloons. Again, not as cool. If you film it, it's not nearly as cool. And you're also a pussy because once the guy, you're going to forget to film it. Once the guy gets out of the car, he never runs. And that's the point of like his band. He was up back in all aloof and he's like, it wasn't me. And it's just newspaper, dude. It's full of newspaper. He's like I told.

The guy who dropped it, it was a bad idea. And. You know, like half the time in the back of his mind, he's like, I'm down to get clocked right now on TV by this guy. Like I'm actually down if this guy really punches me. And that's why these guys are so good at it. It what?

Because I remember when it came out my parents, I remember when the the Phil stuff was happening and my dad was like, don't you fucking dare do that shit to me. Like he's like, if you like, it was kind of just like this, like Hellraiser cube that opens up where he's like, don't like he was like, wait, I didn't don't because it's primal to him too. I'm sure he was like, oh, this is an answer that we should have never sought out.

Like what? What is entertaining to young men like this is like, so anyone can do this. And my dad's like, don't you fucking dare. And you know, and he's just like, this is not, you're not him. I'm not Phil. And then I remember my mom coming in and she was like when I was watching Jackass and she's like, this is really gay. Like. And she meant it like this is a homosexual and you know, I'm a 13 year old kid. Like, no, it's not right. Right.

Yeah, no, not at all. I was like that guy running with his Dick out and slapping it on someone's face is not gay. And like, yeah, it's like. Dicks are just funny, you know? I understand art. Media literacy on my mom. And then and then I find out. Then I listen to Bradyson Ella's podcast. How many years later he goes, Oh yeah, I used to. I used to love Jackass. That was the way you'd watch gay pornography. Like you're like, damn it. Is this the third?

One where they have the gay fags skit where rollerblading that's the main remember is that I remember the gay fags and rake getting shit on while he's while he's having his picnic date or whatever that I know that. One's funny and you can find out. When you find out that Rake Yon is a biochemist now, you realize you're like, wait, he is a little more conservative because that's like chocolate pudding going on. Oh yeah, Yeah. There's only one I think get shit on.

You know, he's like a VAT. Too he's like backed up in his Instagram bio and shit Yeah yeah, that's. Yeah, yeah, they can't all be winners. But you know, like, yeah, I did see that. I was like as soon as I heard biochemist, I'm like, I'm not even gonna. Yeah, I already know what this is about. It is funny. Like the ones that kind of layoff a bit because, like, they definitely don't. Yeah, they don't shit on Rake. Yeah. Who's the elite singer? Darren Miller. Yeah, they don't.

They don't fuck with him too much because he's kind of like they don't fuck with. Mike Vallely ever because Mike Vallely will fucking dis I guess so scary when he when he do that because I felt bad the one time I one guy I really felt bad for was the Mike Vallely sketch. Anybody. I don't it's in the CKYDVD, but there's actually a video of Mike Vallely just beating the shit out of like 5 skaters.

It's incredible. It's it looks literally looks like a Marvel, like a Marvel guy, like, hey, punk, you fucking asshole. And he just, you know, beats the shit out of everybody. And but there's a a landscaper for like a parking lot. Yeah. I felt really bad. For that, actually that guy, yeah, that guy's. Like, dude, I got to clean up this shit. He's like, dude. I get it that what you're doing is funny. He's like, but it fucks me up because I got to come out of.

They don't, dude. No, you don't. Yeah. Yeah, He's like, yeah, you just put the word on the plants tomorrow, you know? And like they start like, yeah. And then and then Mike Valelly like fucking like gets him in like a lot like a headlock and he and again, if this is fake, it's like a brilliantly acted because I'm like that guy legitimately looks like, oh shit, like, oh shit, I shouldn't have come over here and and Mike

like they never. But the Long story short, they're not rubbing shit on Mike Vallely's bald head ever is is never happening. But Ryan Dunn's the guy who can't handle it, but they always do it to him. That's that's like their their ultimate, like their ultimate Guinea pig is Ryan Dunn. Where, because there's one where I think it's I can't remember if it's brand. I think it's Brandon Di Camille, where he just literally films himself shit coming out of his ass into this.

I think it's CKY 2K. It's like the opening. Of. I mean truly, like the magnum opus of anything Bam's ever done at CK. That one's, that one's. So good because it's artful. As fuck. It's like the Iceland, the Iceland stuff like where where Halcyon on and on is playing and yeah, like, whoa, this is like some Bjork. And the apex twin sequence too, yeah. It's crazy and you could tell like it was like, OK, the stakes are levelled up a little bit, but it still has that feel.

It doesn't like over expand, which I like. And there's always moments when you watch these four where you're like, Oh fuck, is this when they start losing it and you think you think it and then all of a sudden they're back to they play the hits again and it's just shitting on your

friend. And but but there's the sketch that's really revolting is like Brandon Di Camille films like, like, I mean an insane like sillium, like psyllium husk shit like like go out of his ass and then wipes it like like raw and then goes to Ryan Dunn gets it in his ear while he's sleeping. You could tell his like Ryan Dunn's like blackout drunk hammered. Like that's a funny. Yeah. Because he's like out. He doesn't, he doesn't budget. It's like on his lip.

And yeah, it's. On his lip and everything. He wakes up because of the smell. You can tell like that's like that's the most mortifying part of it is like, it's one thing if you like, why are people touching me? And you wake up and you're like, that's gross. And then you're like, oh, he woke up because of the disgusting smiling. These guys are eating Mcfucking Donald's every day probably. You know what I mean? Like, like, it's probably just toxic waste. Smells like a foot in there.

Yeah, it's so. Gross and and then but then like Ryan Dunn like stands over him just full like 40 oz night full of 40 oz like pisses all over him like in his face like like sleeping like it's like one of those like total like beer pisses where it like never stops. Oh dude, yeah, you got imagine. And two, like how much I drink in and just like is what that was like 2-4 in the morning. So that was like, yeah. Thick. Yellow, dehydrated, pissed, you know, Yeah, and you.

Wonder too, because you're just like Bam is like the whole time. Like you could tell they're in Iceland for like some skate thing, probably some sort of like element or toy machine appearance. But they're like, let me bring all my guys. Like he probably has more money

than he can even count. Yeah, time and he's like, let me just bring our guys and we'll just film CKY 2K like it basically all the time, which is like really proto YouTube proto streamer, proto all of these things where like that's not that hard to do right now. But like you're talking about film equipment cameramen constantly like, you know, this is this is nuts and the the way. He edited too was very just kind of like a just I don't the way they chop things together is

very loose and fun. He he has his like more like the FX twin sequence. You can tell that like Bam's directed music videos and shit because it's like really expertly done, but just the way they like decide what to put together is just like so all over the place. It's fun. Did you see the It's like Him versus Bam the documentary he did I've. Seen I've watched a little bit of it. I fucking cannot stand the band him I that was I. I never have been able like their music sucks.

Dude, I've never understood it. I've like I've tried to this time. I like the Daniel Lyon I dude like does the the Viva intro yes yeah, they're for guitars. Like he's dope, but I'm like dude, you have. A waist sicker band that you're like blood related to to use any of their it's so. Strange. Yeah, I know. Like. Him is like nobody understood it. Bam got really into him and and ever almost like why? Yeah, like I don't know. But anyways, you were saying

it's really weird. Sad voice stuff. But yeah, the way the way he even, like put together that documentary was a very like proto YouTube. And the way he, like, talks to the camera in his office and chops it together is there's definitely like, I mean, that's a key distinction between like doing that like be like Bam versus like Knoxville and Tremaine. Yeah. I was thinking like, like, have you read that? Bretty Snell essay on like empire post empire, it's in white.

It's in white, right? He mentions it in there. He wrote it during. I don't think I read it but. I know what he, I know the gist of it, but the whole gist cuz it's. Like what it? For any of you doesn't know, basically I mean he. Wrote this during like Martin Sheen or no Charlie Sheen's is

tiger blood, you know yeah. And I mean his whole point is about like, you know, the empire versus post empire and that we're in this post empire age of, you know, the the entertainment has moved behind the scenes like Jackass and like all this is definitely part of like the post empire moment. But I think I was thinking about this watching it because like Knoxville and Tremaine definitely have more of an old

like studio based sensibility. And even like Knoxville too, is like his like outward inspirations are like Evel Knievel. And and he kind of reminds me of like, you know, Seth MacFarlane the way he's like he likes that sort of like tap dancing top hat giant Kane pulls you off the stage like old style of a comedy where it's like Bam is very much more again, like proto YouTube. He's a much more post empire figure in that sense. And you?

Have, I mean, yeah, 'cause the merge of Jackass, which I believe happens right around CKY three, I want to say I think it's right. I think, I think, yeah, that's when Knoxville. Shows up. Yeah, you see. All of them and they see Jeff Tremaine. You see like I think they basically again this is another like proto streamer thing is like making your own documentary while doing something else

basically. Like. Like it's kind of very much like idub Sam Hyde kind of situation that's happening where they're like doing real, a lot of the pranks they're doing on the Jackass people, they're getting reactions that you don't get in the Jackass movie. They're like, dude, what the fuck? Like we're done. Like, you know, like CKY, dude, this we're fucking CKY. And like, you know, and it's really funny because the but yeah, with Knoxville and again, I I loved all that stuff going on.

I love Jack, I love, I loved it all. But like looking back, Knoxville worked for Big Brother magazine, which was a skip magazine. And I think they were trying to like it's all it's LA based, right? So like LA, I love California, but like people in LA think that like they're on the cutting edge of a lot of stuff all the time. But when they realize they're like, well, this kid is like fucking us over in like Westchester, Pennsylvania.

Like this kid is like doing something that we cannot do out here. Like people don't care about not people don't care, but like a mass audience is not caring about Eric Coston clearing this rail in LA, you know, clearing this gap. Like you care, but that's a only skaters care about that. But like, this kid over here is combining comedy, organic comedy like that, that like, you really can't write. In fact, the more orchestrated

skits are the worst. Usually that band, it's like, it's like that that they're doing. He's like, we got to bring this to LA. And then I have my rodeo clown guy, Stevo, who, you know, look, Stevo, Stevo is what he is. I fucking can't listen to that guy talk for longer than like 10 minutes, but you know, Yeah, man. Oh. Yeah, man, you know. Like just like, Oh my God, dude. And then and like these guys are trying, they try to like

maximize everything. And and you immediately realize like how the reason CKY was cool was because everyone understood what it was like in the group, right In the group. Brandon D Camilo, I think he's only in the first Jackass and you don't see him after a while and he's like. A family man now he is, and he also. Just didn't want to do any of that stuff.

He's like, this is not what we there's always one guy in every passive thing that blows up. That's like, hey, I didn't really want this to blow up, you know, like I, I kind of wanted this to be a thing like your secret little tapes, you know, your secret. Tapes like. If you knew about it, you knew about it like and he's like putting on like MTV with directors and all these moving parts, which the beauty of CKY is that there's like 5 moving

parts massive. So to make it this big machine and you watch it on Jack and some of the Jackass stuff is still brilliant, but you're like, man, the CKY stuff I think ages 10 times better in my opinion, because because we search for something organic now, like we search for like non orchestrated humor a lot of times. And it's part like the kind of it's kind of like this post to post modernism movement that we're in right now.

At least I am like I want to know what earnestly that you want to do like in earnest and like even if you see that dumbest. Thing of all. Time it looks so natural whereas like yeah guys it's like you know we built a gigantic ramp in a backyard it was all headed that way it's it's. It's a. Natural rise and fall trajectory in a way, but it was just like, it's kind of sad when you watch the Jackass stuff happen a little bit now. Now that you see what happened

to all of them. All. Outs and Jackass. The last Jackass was awful. They have like zoomers doing their their the tough stunts for them, but they're all these. They're all these like. Streamer guys that aren't like they. That was the worst part. You know, yeah. Guys named poopies and he's like, come on, dude. Like this is terrible. And and it it was they, they kind of, again, you realize why they kind of didn't want Bam to be a part of it because he was not in a good mental state, but

also they needed him bad. You know. Like this shit does not work without him like and you know, he it's tough. He doesn't sound. Down to, I mean, he definitely, it sounds like he just hates Knoxville out of everyone he's like, doesn't Tremaine too? Yeah. Tremaine too. Yeah. I mean I could see I. Mean some of my favorite movie experiences were like even the

shitty the new shitty one. Like they're all like my favorite movie going experiences seeing Jackass in theaters like the funniest shit to me and like having I remember like Jackass 2 and 3 specifically and three's like not one of the like 2 I think is their best, but like that was the funniest shit one and two are. Classics one and two are like, it's still classic. Yeah, Oh, they're so. Good. Yeah. And that was like a Kate, like packed theater and like everyone

left his friends. Like he didn't want it to end. It was so funny. But I or No. Bam said something too recently about like what you getting big? And his main thing was really at, at the end of the day, he just wanted to skate. And when it becomes, when you kind of make it big like that and you like, yeah, like you're saying that, you know, you build the, you try to get that specific stunt or whatever. It's like, dude, you're slight.

Like you go from like skating 8 hours a day to like down to like one maybe like 30 minutes. And the rest is all like setting up crew and production and all this bullshit. And you're like, you're doing less and less of the thing that you're trying to capture on film. And he's kind of saying too, like even now he's like, he kind of likes that. You can just like now you can just post and just film and post.

He's ahead of his. Time man, he's ahead of his time like I and I I dude First off he he has like 2 instagrams and there's a post every hour on them it's crazy like he's like touring. And shit too. Like he's all over the place. I think he's a guy. That the wheels have to be moving because the minute he he even said he's like the reason I was drinking so much because I didn't literally like had no structure.

I had no structure. He's like, there was things to do, but they were all destructive. He's like, and, and I mean when he built Castle Bam and had that done for Viva la Bam, which I think Viva la Bam is like perfect. I mean, it's, it's like it was such a great show. It was kind of the end of what you could do the the the absolute zenith of what you could do with that construction of the family. It still takes place in Pennsylvania. So you get the CKY kind of nostalgia parts of it.

A lot of his friends are still there and you and and you because what the fuck else are they going to do? You know, like, of course they're going to be part of this. And then, but then, like, at the same time, you know, he realizes, like, damn, you just kept that place open. You just gave the gate code out to people constantly. Yeah. Yeah. And. You. Know he's a classic, like everybody's as honest and good-natured as I am, you know, and it's, it's a false equivalency.

You do with a lot of people I've had I've, I've had to learn that the hard way a few times. Like, oh, that guy's cool for sure. You're like, no, he actually, he's not, you know, and you, but like he was talking. I felt so bad for him because again, this all comes in handy like as you're, when you're growing up and you have bills and stuff, you realize like how crazy this was. He would be gone for a while, Spain or whatever, And, but his house would be open. He's like, Oh yeah, people can

go skate there if they want. He's like, I love that for young kids, like I never want them to be without like a cool place to skate. And like, but he had one of those massive like skate parks inside his house with verts and, you know, all the all this crazy stuff and, and the lighting on top, he said, but my one rule is if you're going to, if you're going to go, if you're going to go in my home, you got to turn the lights off. And nobody would ever do it.

So they'd have those massive warehouse lights on the whole time. And he would get like an alert from the power company. Like, dude, you're like, your Bill's going to be like $50,000 And and he's like, what? And it's like, dude, yeah, you're trusting retarded skater kids. They're like. Pick up. And he's like all my 2 rules are pick up your beer bottles and turn the light off and they don't do that. And he was talking about like, obviously junkie skaters are going to like come into your

house and do this too. And he said, like, you had a video camera of this one guy. I think it was his old classmate, which this I feel bad for because you want to like give that guy your benefit of the doubt. You're like, that's my old friend Don or whatever. He would go into the people's cars and break into everybody's car on camera. And like when confronted, he did that like just obnoxed that crazy out of out of just insane junkie lying that only makes sense to them.

And he's like, oh, I thought those were my cars. And he's just like, dude, bring the shit back, you know, And he, he's the first time I had to get police involved. He goes, 'cause he's stealing from other people. Like Bam's like down for himself to be a sacrificial lamb. But the minute like other people get hurt and, you know, you really learn more When Ryan Dunn dies, like that's like really

like, holy shit. Like all the thing I was doing was like, all the stuff I was doing is actually real. You know, he dies drinking like an insane amount and just crashes into a fucking tree. And it's just like, obviously, and there's all these like clips of April telling Ryan Dunn you're going to die in a in a car accident. And he's like, actually I'm going to die in a flaming car accident, April like as a joke. And it's like, that's actually

what happened, you know? And it's fucking crazy and dude. Yeah, it turns into like the Jesse Pinkin, the Pinkman meth house. You know, he's like loaded and just all these hangers. That's how people are too like.

It's not your. House people just going to trash it and that's, I mean, that's what's kind of lovable about him is like, and why, what makes him so easy, you know, get taken advantage of like that 'cause he, he is kind of like I was, I kind of when I was younger and like, I'd, I liked him, but I'd like watch Viva La Bam and I really bought into the whole like, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. Like this guy's a fucking asshole, but he is a yeah, he's

kind of a sweetheart. And I mean, that's probably too with like his like, interest in like him this sort of like faggy emo shit, you know? It's it's terrible because like otherwise like the CKY musical arrangement and you put a lot of thought into it and it's all really good, like the band. And to be. Honest, like I never had any of the albums growing. I didn't like I only my only listening to it was paired with what was in the show.

But you realize like OK, the first, I think it's I think the first two albums. And for the record, I know a lot of people are talking about like they think a lot of people think CKY band is like Brandon Di Camilo rapping and stuff, which is hilarious by the way. Narco. Did the age? And the Asian I I downloaded that on limewire yeah cuz actually before limewire I downloaded that my oolong teeth. You will into my tree. Yeah, I fucking that shit killed me.

Still funny, still funny and then but CKY is a real band like and they I just literally I was looking up with the latest news on CKY. They got kicked off a tour because Steven Ginsburg, who's like a wild guy. He punched the Alien Ant Farm singer in the face on No Way. 2020. 4 I'm like dude, wow. Dude like some. I I actually love that. I was like, wait, something's never changed. Yeah, they. Still look like that isn't they're in. Miller's out right. And where and where?

Like he's not. With them anymore, I don't. Think so. There's been a lot of shake UPS there. There's I remember like you watch they they've kicked out their bass player like a long time ago. Like like when the band was first getting popular, they're like, Oh yeah, that guy always sucked. Like once like the music became like super serious because people were, I would imagine people were watching CKY the thing and they were like, what is that song is sick. Like like can I buy that?

So like after a while they're like, wait, we're going to go on Warp tour because of this. We need like a real bass player. But then after a while they had just a bunch of I mean, it's bans like, right, right. And out and. It's, and Jess Margera I think is a Family Guy now too. And there's like when Bam was having his spirals, they had like a really like public Twitter battle, which back it was back when like people didn't think people saw what was on

Twitter, right? Like like back in like 2012 or something. You didn't realize people were like screen capturing that and that it was there forever. So like they would be like, oh, Bam thinks he's all hot and like it's kind of sad when you watch it or like, I don't I don't want to watch that. Like I don't want to watch the

meltdown between. That's why I I get mad when people like there are a lot of people who they let they know when you think bring up Bam, they think about all like the Instagram videos, like fuck you, fuck Brandon Novak. I'm like, those are sad. I don't. Yeah, it's not. It's. Not fun to watch. Yeah, those are I, I. Don't get entertainment. I mean, obviously you have a morbid curiosity. Yeah, it's a it's. A bummer. But the band, but the band, the

band is great. I mean, CKYI think it's it's one just can't kill yourself. Volume 1 is Kill Yourself. That's the one because when you first reach out about this, that was like my first thought because I mean the the name CKY eclipsed the videos, you know, the crew or whatever.

I think for like, for me at least to a point, because like when I first got a guitar, like they're just, let's look at that Chad Ginsberg, he's just such a fucking, he's just a riff master, you know, every song is just insane. And that that their guitar tone, it always pissed me off 'cause I think he's like an octave pedal, like a double octave pedal to get like that specific sound. And I can never like, I can never like quite do that. But it sounds so good.

And that's gotta be so nice. Like having that in your back pocket, putting together these videos that you can just like family. In your family, Like, even if he's being gay about even if your brother Jess Margera was like, actually, I wanna do other things with this music. Fucking shut up and start beating the shit out of him. And then you'll have the song, you know, like it's like this. It's the perfect storm. That's why I go. I mean, this whole thing is the perfect storm.

Like a family full of like dumb kids jumping around found a way to like make this shit happen. It's crazy. It's not like arguing with a a band from Finland. Can I use your death metal song? Right. Yeah. You know, in my skate. Video that you probably don't even like like or things. Well, it's like it's my brother, dude.

Like so at the end of the day, you had that at your disposal and like again, you when you listen to it in isolation, it sounds great in the music and it actually works the best with like the videos happening. But when you listen to it in your car, you're like, this is actually really like complex, like good kicks. Ass.

It's so, yeah. Yeah, I mean, and then the the the yellow logo, the yellow CKY logo, Yeah, yeah, like an album when flesh to do that awesome music video in I think it's CKY. 3. I want to say they have that awesome music video with wires everywhere, just like like just wire, just amp wires everywhere in there and they're in that white room like total, like fucking classic 2000s video of like the camera, like flipping around and stuff. I, I, I, the music was just like, and like I said, my

promiscuous daughter. I mean like, that's in. That's probably one of my favorite parts of CKY. Two Ki think it's. Pky. 2K that that's. And that. That compilation, because Bam would end his one of a great bit that he would do, which doesn't work on YouTube or, or anything with a scroller, is he would end it at like 38 minutes. He'd be like, all right, that's it. So I you could picture, you could picture people who borrowed it from their friend, right? Or like, and it's like, Hey, so

you said where when was that? I didn't see that fucking thing. And they're like, dude, did you turn it off after it said it was over? And there's like 30 minutes left. It just keeps. Going too, Yeah, the, the, the documentary's like that too. Or it's like the CYK or CKY documentary, which I was like, I I tuned into it was like, it'd be nice to get some like back story in these guys. And there's like a little bit, but it's just just more, it's just more fucking.

It's just more shit, you know, It's so. Dumb. It's like how to rob a. House skit and all that It's yeah, you realize because. You're like, you're we're so spoiled nowadays that there's lore for everything. You know, like you get everything. You there's a documentary on everything. It really helps with my work. You know, I like with doing this, like it really helps like, oh, cool. But you realize like you kind of just have to watch everything and surmise your own.

Like you can go on Reddit and there's always somebody that's like, I grew up in Westchester and this is this is what, you know, all right. I'd rather just, I'd rather just watch it myself and kind of project my because you, you insert yourself into all these videos, like not doing it, but like watching it happen, you know? And you're like, you're like smoking weed next to them or drinking beer or something. And like, like, you're like,

damn, that was crazy, you know? But yeah, the music is, I think that's the hidden gem out of all of it too, is the music. And they they are a real band. Like, they have their own fan base and everything, but I think a lot of the fan base did come from like originally hearing it in these in these videos, Because how else would it have been when you were like a local dive bar guy in Westchester and you're just like, oh, I saw them play it this park or something. Otherwise, no, you heard 96

quite bitter beginnings. And it's you realize how incredible that is. Like, it's so good. It's a show stopper. I mean, the riff is like, it's in the pantheon of guitar. Yeah. I mean. It's Pavlovian. Like I want to jump off something. Yeah, when I hear it, like I would like literally it's, it's bringing the bell like it's, it's just like. Like I. Wanted like I live in a second

story apt. I want to just straight up like nose dive off my apartment for no with no plan for what happens after I hear it. It's unreal. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, after all that, you know, Bam after Viva la Bam and and Jackass and all these things, like he kind of hits. I think it he kind of didn't realize it's over, you know, like, like that current construct. And that's when you really spiral when you're just like, wait, what do I do now?

I'm probably he's probably he kind of gave up skating to do all of this, which is probably the right move, like in terms of business. And yeah, I mean, he would have never made this money as just a skater. I I, I kind of think about it like Dwayne the Rock Johnson, who played defensive end for the University of Miami, but tore his ACL his senior year. And it's like he probably would have been good enough to go to the NFL. Like just as like a OK, I'll try to make the Miami Dolphins see

what happens. But then you're like, no, he got into wrestling because of that, you know, and, and, and, and now look at him, you know, and this guy's this guy's so bam. But then you realize after a while you're like, I can't be fucking 40, you know, jumping off a shit. Like people don't think that's as cool anymore. You know, it's just like, there's a youth element to this, that it makes it better because otherwise it's like shoe nice.

Like the old shoe nice. Videos of the guy eating painters caulk, you know, and like, and he's like, I got to get my kids from school later. I'm going to drink a quart of vodka. Yeah, dude.

I broke the. Seal this isn't fake, like all the comments say, you know, like you you you see that and you're like, oh man, this is sad and that's what all 2010's Bam looks like to me is shoe nice where you'd watch all these people who, I'm sorry, spend all day on the Internet, don't have fun, don't have the lived experience that all these guys do, and they just watch a guy destroy himself, right.

It's sad and that's what most of his friends are saying in the comments are like, dude, don't fucking post it. Like call me, like call me, we'll talk like, yeah, yeah. And and then Novak's getting sober at that time, which is really funny how like 1 the literally the minute Bam goes spirals out of control like Novak gets sober. Yeah. There's like one of them is like a clear mind at all times, Yeah. And. Like because they would film Brandon Novak getting kicked off

of like tour with them. Like he would, they would film him like getting caught with heroin and stuff, like in the house. I said you could live in my house if you didn't do drugs. And he's like empty your pugs. He's like, well, dude, I did borrow these jeans from somebody. Like so there might be shit in here and it and it's like sad. Yeah, yeah.

Dude, it's and then bam. And Bam goes through it and he starts trashing Novak. But I did find it funny that Novak's like, yeah, I don't take any of that actually serious because that's a junkie and I'm, I was a fucking junkie. So like, he's like, you just start saying shit, but saying help you. So it's like actually kind of charming, like in a way where he's like, yeah, he'll, we'll get him some help, man. He's like, I don't pay much attention to what he's saying, you know?

Yeah. I'm happy to I mean Bam at this point too. It's it's cool seeing him back on the skateboard, but he's he does have the good sense to know his age. And I mean he's trashing on like the the recent Jackass just called it like fat guys and butt floss, you know, and doing that shit and where's the lie? I mean. Yeah. Exactly. There is.

I mean, it's not like, and I, I feel like I'll still like probably like Larry Clark out and like learn to skateboard at like 40 or something in my life, you know, but it's falling. Is rough man. Falling is fucking rough. Like I, I've I worked at a skate park like when I was like 20 and I would just ride like ride around and get bored. Nobody be in the park or something. I would just ride around just like literally go over everything, not doing any tricks.

And like I fell once and I was like, fuck, I used to build A and this is 20. I used to be able to like get up when I was 13 and like kind of get fired up by falling like and like, Oh my cool, like ready. I got punched in the mouth in my prize fight. Now I'm ready to fight. Now I was like, dude, I'm just going to lay here like forever. I might die, you know, and, and it's like embarrassing now, like where you see like Bam, not embarrassing.

It's not actually, he's actually still really good. It's actually kind of cool, like how you never really leaves you, but he's like, yeah, man. He's like, I'm bailing out of everything 'cause he's like, fuck if I like, if I fall like I might like, yeah. Like Tony? Hawk still skates, yeah. 50 Yeah, he's in those, like, turmeric joint commercials and he's still going. Yeah, skating in. Skechers and shit. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. It's. Really funny 'cause you're just

like, it's wild. Dude, yeah, 'cause Tony. Did Hawk does not need to skate anymore? Like I don't know. He has so much money. His kid is like pro, but it's skating. 'S a weird one, 'cause like, you can, I don't know, surfers, like people get pretty old and like still surf, you know, 'cause you're not hitting your face on pavement, you're still getting thrown under and shit. But like, yes, skating into your like 40s fifties is pretty fucking wild.

Yeah, and he was. Talking about like, because one thing about skate culture, I'm talking about this with Adam Lehrer a long time ago, I think on the back wall. We were talking about it because we watched Baker 3, which is, Yeah, that's right. Baker three.

What you, you start like realizing how, yeah, there was somebody trying to stop you, which was part of the part of the fun, like where there'd be a security guard going like, don't skate that rail, you know, And, and now it's like every, like there's really, everybody catches you doing everything now and it's like. Lawsuit we're in. Litigation culture now, so like there's a lot of shit that can happen where they sue you for property damage and all these

things. And and then also like, but skate culture a lot of times like I watched the latest like 0 skate DVD or, or whatever they put out on YouTube. I was like, these kids are fucking good man. Like I was like like like skate up spiral staircases. Like they grind like upwards like like on a spiral staircase and you're like, this is insane. But then like, you'll see them like eating healthy. It's odd.

Yeah. You're like, I get it, That's the right thing to do. But like, that Nigel Houston guy is unreal. Like he's so good, but then he's like eating like Brazil nuts and like olives and he's like, yeah. He's like, these are anti-inflammatory. You're like, I kind of want you to sacrifice yourself for my enjoyment. Yeah. It's it's, there's no personality to it. That's just, I mean, that's always like. It, you know, like. There's Evil Knievel doing all

of his stunts, and then his son. It was his son, Bobby Knievel. Scott. Yeah, and he's the one he like he broke all of his records. He did everything, but he didn't gain near, you know, the fame and levels like his dad because it's like Harv is just like the personality and showmanship. And I think that's something that Knoxville's got down with the happy stage name and everything is knowing how to

like sell a personality. But but yeah, I mean, that's even like today's like what like the YouTube pranksters, like the the Joey salads types, like the the whole like having the social media side of it kind of like adds a weird sort of like AI don't know, another layer of like attention seeking antisocialness to it. I don't know like. Who like? Probably like like the sort of like idubs Filthy Frank was probably like the last crew. I mean, Odd Future had a bit of it.

Very much derivative of of that. It was the last time I saw like somebody do something with the CKY Jackass model and like do something different with it. But even then, look at those guys now like that didn't last very long. Right about it. Like, them as a crew did not last that long. Like, and and they all, you know, Tyler, the Creator started winning Grammys. So it's like he's got to wear shirts with bumblebees all over him and pretend that he's fucking, you know, is into

political causes. But, you know, like, yeah, like, that's The thing is like, there's so many things stopping you now. I mean, you can buck them, but then you can get shadow banned if you do that. Like back then it was like, OK, there's no guarantee anybody sees what I'm doing, but I can do exactly what I want. Well, I don't think too like being really good the way people are right now is like people, people don't want to see that.

It's like people want to see the you fucking up and getting married and punched in the face. And that was that was the another Knievel thing. He's like people. What he did is like Caesar's Palace jump. You know, he's like people aren't showing up. They'll like see me land this or they're they want to be here. You know, they see me die like if I fucking die doing this, they don't want to miss that. Like they're here to see. Me fail. I mean the Tony Hawk 900.

It took a fucking hour to happen in real time. I remember he fell so many times. And the falling was like entertaining because you're like, oh, you know what I mean? Like edges. It was an edging experiment. Whereas now you'd edit that out. You would edit out that and then maybe 2 attempts and then the 900 where you're like, no, like man, I, I go with this all the time. It's like people, stuff does get better. Like every movie that's made now looks like a professional movie, right?

It's like you don't get a lot like like a lot of indie. The line between indie and mainstream aesthetically doesn't really look a lot different, right? And. What years? Past and then you look at sports where I I was, people ask me all the time. So they're playing baseball. They would say why doesn't anyone watch baseball anymore? And they go, their answer is always, well, you should let

them do steroids again. And I'm like, if you watch baseball, everyone throws 100 miles an hour and hits fucking 4500 foot home runs. If you watch it. Now, the problem is, is that there's no like, fat guy that's fun to watch or like, yeah, like, like swab that's like strikes out the Adonis guy, you know, or something. Like everybody's jacked, everybody's in shape, everybody's really good, but it's boring.

So it's like, like the CKY. It's like, dude, you jumped into a pine tree or like you are standing on the back of an El Camino or not even that cool of a car like a fucking Toyota Camry. You can jump ackle your friend from a moving vehicle. Yeah, Cars I. Had back then, yeah. That's fun. Like that's, that's so fun to watch. It's it's not this optimization optimizing, optimizing,

optimizing. They, what they always did too is like even during the skate segments, they'd show someone fuck up and then they'd show them like do the trick back-to-back. And I know something like CKY 2 is like, yeah, they they'd fuck it up and then they'd and do it. And it wasn't just like a bunch of like sick, you know, Yeah.

Breaking the skateboard, though. Some of the best ones is when it's a compilation of guys throwing their fucking skateboard Fuck, you know, and and you'd look and it would be like Arto, sorry, like, you know, like a professional skater, like this guy's like legit good. And for a while, I think you know, it's people who are a lot more into skating. Could could challenge this.

And I I I'm just speculating here, but I get the idea that being in CKY was better than being in like literally almost any other thing it had been so. Fun. Well, you probably actually did so much skating or, or I think. More people saw it too, to be honest. Like I, I get the idea that like, comedy fans were buying CKY, you know, like people who didn't pick up a skateboard were buying CKY. Whereas, you know, it's kind of like, you know, it, this happens a lot.

A lot of times people who listen to your show have their own podcast, which is cool, but you're like, I don't want you to like not I want, I want the fan who just only listens to us from a pure consumption standpoint, you know, and it's not it's fine. But like you're just like people were just trying to laugh at things buying CKY. And I remember like even Bam's parents were like, because there was one like early with before they got really bold with like

the shitting and the pissing. The CKY 1 is like, is like Ryan Dunn just bare ass farting in a goat's face. And it's really funny. Like it's like, it's really funny. And like, I think I get the idea that Phil and and April Margero were like, keep that in. They they, they said that they're like, that's really

funny. You know, like if you just splice that in every once in a while and then after a while that becomes the focus of it. And then with skating spliced in and it's like, it's crazy how much of a perfect storm this shit was, dude. Like, yeah, I I can't believe it. Like just the idea that a great band and a great skater merged to make like way longer than you'd think, like like and and make these great.

I think 4. I think all four CK wise, there's so much to it. Too, I mean Bambi and like Tony Hawk and like the whole like Tony Hawk Pearl skater. Yeah, Overlap too, Officer. Dick, all that stuff. Remember when you could play as Officer Dick and Tony Hawk skater and that was like, that's Jackass. Like, like it all. It permeated everything. And I'd imagine there's some skating purists that hate all of that stuff like that are probably like, yeah, that is our

culture. But like we're getting people coming in where like I'm a serious skater and they're asking me to go fucking like run in a shopping cart and fall on something, you know, but I'm really trying to skate. I want you to buy my skate. And everyone's like, too bad. I wanted I already saw somebody skate, do a sick ass fucking whatever trick and then and then also piss off the landscaper that worked at a Western Pennsylvania or whatever.

I don't know where it is. Westchester, PA shopping center. I saw, I saw that all at once. Now what can you do for me? And it's like it really blows its wad. And then with Jackass, it's like Jackass just. I'm surprised Jackass lasted as long as it did, to be honest. Yeah, it's like. I mean, still like a pretty solid media empire in like Dick House Productions. I mean, he's put out some like have you seen the what's that documentary they did the Wild and Wonderful whites of West

Virginia? I did see that. One. Yeah. Do you like it? I watched. I watched it recently. Yeah. Somebody was saying it's good. I I, I mean, I I'd never even heard of it. I watched. Snow. On the bluff, when we did snow on the bluff with Kelby and David, somebody was like, you got to check that out. And I did. Yeah, I I did. Enjoy it.

That one's fun. I mean that, that just side whatever, but the like just their documentary style and how they just like kind of observe and you know, whatever that that one's really good. But I mean they they there's a lot that they're doing as well. But it's funny. I think one of the things that kind of fucks CKY, which is funny because you can like stream it anywhere illegally online. It's like archive.

But like as far as like for them to sell themselves, I think all the music licensing fucked them because I've seen like the DVD versus VHS, there's like so many edits because of the music. Yeah, yeah, I think Internet Archive got a pretty good RIP because like I said, Bjork. You know of Bjork. Yeah, Yeah. Because I. Always E40. Had E40 used a Bjork sample once and it was such a big deal that Bjork cleared a sample for him.

Like, I I guess so. I'm like, there's no way she cleared it for fucking Bam Margera. Like, you know, at that point, like, at least it was like to create music. I could see her doing that. But it's like, what? These are just a bunch of fucking idiots on skateboards, you know, like maybe she's a huge fan. I have no idea. But the, the there's, yeah, that's the problem with it.

It's just like there was so much freedom and because of that, like like a parent, like it has to be every parent's nightmare. Like I said, like when it came out, I remember my mom just like everyone's doing a deep breath like just oh fuck. Like, you know, because that's a, it's a uniquely male problem. Like we said, like where like if you're a girl dad, you're, I guess you're worried about your, your, your daughter hanging out with people. They're hanging out.

Yeah, yeah, like, but they're. But again, they're kind of gonna, they're gonna, they're probably gonna party one way or another. So it's like, OK, I don't even know that. Anymore Because like so we got 3 girls in this house and it's like I got 2 high school boyfriends and I'm just like, do you guys like do you guys ever try to sneak out? Are you guys doing? They're like, no, they don't do anything.

That's crazy. That's well, maybe they maybe they just didn't tell you that, or maybe they're just not telling. Me. But yeah, maybe. Maybe. They're like narc don't fuck they're just such. Good kids, dude. I don't know. I know. I know. I just remember. I think it's the opening line of The Sandlot. I think about it all the time, like the like where the kids just a nerd at the beginning and like the mom's just like will you go get into some fucking trouble? She doesn't say fucking, but

like, will you go into trouble? And she's like, he's like, for real. He goes, yeah, not too much, but just like go get, like go do something like stop being a mama's boy. Like stop like hanging around here. Like what do you. It's a complete opposite. It's literally the complete opposite problem that we have now. But yeah, I was just thinking like, you know, back then, if you had a a daughter in like 2001, you're like, don't hang out with. Those guys fucking don't.

Don't hang out with those guys. And then, yeah. But there's no, nobody's filming everything though, you know, like, like, at least like you could like suffer in silence a little bit, like, luckily. Like or. Stayed within the community a little bit more, but then also like the boys, you're like fuck, dude, I my kids just found out you can jump off a fucking roof. Boys are so funny. Yeah, this sucks. We were at this like. Music festival thing about, like, a summer ago.

Yeah. There's these, like, 2, like, they've been like, four and five, you know, two boys, brothers, just, like, chasing each other and, like, like, throwing, like, full haymakers, just trying to, like, punch each other in the face. I'm like, dude, yeah, way, way different. Like I just spent so much time with my daughter. I just forget that. Like, dude, boys are just way different.

Dude, I yeah. Because it's a completely different set of fears where, you know, as a girl, you're just like, God, I hope, I hope she I mean, you're just like, I hope she's not like completely stupid around who she hangs you want to you. Want to make sure that like, it's like do you get some of this out of your system? Like understand things before you go to college, you know right and. Then you can just. Totally slut out your freshman year, you know.

And, and, and even knowing that it's got to be weird because you're like, I don't want to know about it though, like, you know what I mean? Like I want that to be something that you figured out on your own, you know, and like, and I can still have this, this image of you as whatever, you know, like I something like that, boys. It's like you come home from work like early and you're like, you motherfuckers, I told you not to fucking. I told you the side yard. Don't fucking do that.

Like, you know, like like it's, it's just, and I was an only child so it was crazy like to me, like I had friends, but they couldn't always hang out. So like to me I was like, fuck, dude. If I like fall and like nobody can go get any. Like if I'm doing dumb shit by myself, like I'll just die in the backyard. Which also made it kind of fun, which also. Made it like a. Little bit but. Nobody to film it right, But like I it didn't matter.

The filming didn't matter. I was like, dude, I just want to do this shit. You got to do it like. Yeah, cuz. It's so it's such an adrenaline, like the adrenaline junkie of it.

And that's why like, I mean, there's probably like a Rourkean element to it a little bit where it's like that's probably when you harness that a little bit, you probably are able to like buck any fear that's in your way while your parents are just like, Oh my God, though, But don't like like like don't fucking, you know, try to ride the lawn mower off of like, you know, the John Deere, right, You know it through Safeway or

something. I know, I know people that shop there like I don't want, you know, there's all of these. Oh my gosh, man. Like I, I, I, you're immediately transported back into that time where like I, I, I remember like schools were talking about it. They're like, talk to your kids about Jackass. Because we had that with Sai and I went to middle school together and we had this thing called the B house, which was this massive 2 story thing.

We had a house, B house and C house and this B house was this big thing. So what we would do was play burrito catch at lunch and fucking try to throw like football style, the burrito over with the rapper just untouched and you had to catch it without it spilling out, but you would catch it, have time. You wouldn't even get it to the guy. You'd hit some fucking kid or a teacher, you know, and it would just boom, burrito splatter everywhere. Incredible fun.

I mean, it was it was. I don't regret any bit of it, but that was like only 1% of what these guys were doing. But the school enough was like do not parents. We will take. Measures against your children because we have to stop it. We have to stop the spread of CKY and Jackass, you know, So it was just like, Oh my God. But it's so fun. I I know. It's it's glory days and I'm it's sad. That's what's sad is like, I don't see kids doing that anymore and like, I want to be yelling at kids now.

Hey, cut that shit out. You know, like I want to be the annoying neighbor in the CKY. There's no one to. Do that to. I my dad was asking me the day he's like, why are there no kids like playing a dude in your neighborhood? Do kids play outside? I'm like, no, yeah, straight up. Like they don't. And it's like, you know, and I, I fear that when like kids don't do stuff like that, they like, they still have that urge, but they like, I think they wig. Out eventually like and then

yeah, they. Spaz or the OR they put it all on the Internet, like in posting form where it comes at webcam or something. Yeah, it comes. Out in some, I mean, even when I was like, when I went to Santa Clara, it was like a lot of like private school kids went there. Oh yeah. Dude and I. Was surprised. So like, I went, I went to California thinking I was going to be like, you know, the Montana dude isn't No, just totally uncultured, doesn't know

shit. Like. Santa Clara was like freshman year there. They're so much more sheltered Asian. Kids too. Fucking dude it was. Weird. So like everyone was a virgin and you could tell it was like the first time like really partying and it was fucking weird. And some of them, like some of the girls like just go nuts. It's like, dude, I don't that's, you know. I know they're not sending their best.

No, yeah, they're like in your and not every kid does this, but it's like there was like there was so much like pressure release valves as a kid for when you were doing something like retarded or something. For me it was sports. Like I played a lot of sports and stuff and you would just sports and then like sleepovers with your friends.

You do something really stupid and then like parents would yank the fucking cord out from the TV T VS off like all I say, you know, it was all it was all handled under the roof. Now and then you just see like the way kids like spaz out now. It's like this shit that follows them forever this like like they'll say something they don't mean.

I mean, honestly, I I think a lot of like like people on like X and all that stuff like they're I'm just like, man, did you ever do any of this shit as a kid? Because like, because now you're just like getting it now, you know, and now you're just getting that like shithead mentality. I don't know how old some of these people are. They're a lot of them are anonymous, but I hope they're young.

I was just saying that much because like, sometimes you'll just be like, dude, if I find out you're fucking 38 years old, it's wild. You're like that dude so much would like the fucking manosphere too is like that's what's fun watching this stuff is like this whole this entire instinct this like side of like when you get men together. It looks way more like this than, you know, whatever books. Yeah, and. They're not working out, they're not working yet. They're not, they're not like

they're not like analyzing. It's just as gay, don't get me wrong. Like homoerotic stuff, like so it's all the Bronze Age stuff that you would see. But like, it's like this whole like physiognomy check. They didn't care about any of that stuff, dude, like like, and and they still did well. And it's and it's this, it's this energy we're all chasing. Like we need to return to. I'm like, well, nobody cared about that stuff back then.

That's part of the reason like we, I don't need they look much. More like this, I'm sure. Yeah, they weren't eating. The beef tallow McDonald's either these guys like they they weren't. Saying that doesn't. Need to change. I just mean like, come on guys. Like, it's actually quite simple. There's this primal element to becoming a man that a lot of times the the guys who want to bring back masculinity are telling you to stop doing a lot of times.

Oh yeah, they've. Used like degenerate, you know, the, the the D word for them. Yeah, they bring that out. Yeah. I hate that word. I hate that word so much. Especially when I see like a guy, it's like guys like the, the, I just don't like hamster wheel guys that are just in the hamster wheel all fucking day. Like dude, today, like today. I'm going to release this episode tonight and there's going to be some of the complaints that I didn't talk about Iran or Iran.

I probably will at some point. But I don't have anything. To say about I don't know what the fuck's going to happen. I don't know what's going to happen. Do you want me to just talk about how IA qualifying statement that goes back and forth on both sides because I don't know what's going to happen. No, sorry. You get the CKY episode, that's what happens. So yeah, anyways, Ryan, thank you as always. I kind of want to rewatch Viva La Bam at some point dude. I think, I think that's.

A loud show. I mean, you guys talk plenty about like, you know, 2010's TV programming and now just quiet and shit. It is throwing on Viva's. It's fucking loud. Like being loud. Was like a thing it was being it was, it was crazy. And it was just, it was so funny to see like a guy with a bunch of money still doing the exact same things though. Like, obviously he would be able to pay for like an insane, like thing to fall on someone's car or something.

Like he would, he would be able to do that. But for the most part, it was like still going to torment my fucking parents. Like, like, I just have a bunch of money and they can't nearly, they can't get mad because I bought this fucking house. And it was just like as a kid, you're just like, Yep, he won. Yeah, yeah. That's the greatest thing I've ever seen. Yeah. I mean, so.

But I know it makes me want to go back and check that stuff out because it's just like gosh man, cuz I, I watched, I, I didn't watch Wild Boys nearly as much like the Pawnius. I wasn't in. That Pawnius, Yeah. Pawnius is weird, but although his was the one in CKY three, it had to have been CKY 3 because that's when Jackass was starting where he just. Where he just. Walks into that like hot dog stand naked, like to get like

mustard but it's nonchalant. He doesn't say anything to anybody and his Dick is just out. It's so funny dude. Or funny now. Because like today it's like, that's just like, yeah, I know you wouldn't. Even think otherwise, you know, you'd trip out because he The thing is, people would get mad because he was level headed. Like if he would just start smearing shit everywhere, they'd be like, oh, he's home, he's a vagrant homeless guy. Yeah, there's something wrong.

But the fact that he's like, what's up man? Yep, how you doing, man? He's like and walks out. People be like that's evil. Nobody can send you to see his penis like and or the other one where I think is it is it? It's either done or it has to be done where he takes his pants down like elementary school style at the Oh dude. And he's like, he's like, dude. There's no women in here, dude. Fuck. Like, yeah, that goes, the guy walks. In and goes out.

Yeah, the guy. And the guy that sees him from the mirror while he's washing his hands, he just sees his bare ass and he's like what the fuck dude? I. Vividly remember the first time I realized in like first grade that you don't have to pull your pants all the way down when you're like, because I was like on like the 5th grade side of school and I was going to take a piss and, you know, I just dropped my pants all down.

Then like an older kid walked in and it just like, it was like Adam realizing he's naked, you know, like, yeah, you can see my ass. You know, I don't need to be doing this. And it only takes. Once and then to be fair, I learned that thank God I learned that in front of my dad. Like we went to like a a park

restaurant. Yeah, yeah. And I went I nobody, I, I think it was, I had to have been kindergarten, first grade or something junior year of high school, obviously, But no, the I, I, I did it. My dad's just like, let me show you how to like take a piss that you're an old. Like he's just like just, he's like, he's like this can't stand like you don't in his head. He's just like, oh fuck, like, you know, he's like, you're one of those kids and he's like, he's like, all right, here's the

thing you said zipper. This is how you do this. Like it was really funny because like it was at a part where it was just like me and him in the back. That's it. So I but I had done it at school and nobody had said anything. I think I was around a couple everyone. Else is probably doing it right or. Or it was like Asian kids that wouldn't say anything or something, you know, like, like they don't define that funny. I guess.

I don't know. But like they or, or, or something, I don't know, I guess because I was like, nobody had told me. And then it was like, I think it was either kindergarten or first grade. My, my dad's like, Oh my God, what? This is what you do like. Your 12 years old God yeah, I know. It's like he's like, he's like, you're starting work at my company tomorrow. You're 23. Yeah, yeah.

No, it's it's great. Yeah. So guys, definitely check them out if you haven't, if you're young and you don't know, like I'd love to know some young people's opinion on CKY. Like some stuff probably doesn't work for you, but I bet there's, if you're like a little bit of a reactionary zoomer, you're probably going to it's going to unlock a few things. So yeah, shout out. Maybe one day we can get Bam, Dude, I fucking would. Like dude. He's seen, he seems, he seems

reachable. I feel like right? Place right time, It's just like a right. You'd have to do it in person. I think, like I think it would be 1 of yeah, because I think I feel like you'd flake like not not in like a bad way, but just like, Oh my bad. I'm going to fucking Australia tomorrow for like, it's hard to say. Yeah, yeah. Because he has a new influencer kind of girlfriend now, yeah.

Because he. Had a horrible end of his 20, you know, like 20 tens where he the first wife, the one they had the show, I think where they got married on MTV. It was like a yeah, they had a kid together, I think, and they did and they got. A kid very bad that. Sucked for sure. And then and then he has this new chick who's like a health influencer, doesn't drink, doesn't do any of that stuff. So I mean, I guess that's probably the best possible scenario.

And, and they're, they're, you know, good that seems to be doing well. But like he, he's just like constantly like travelling and you can tell he just needs like gears turning to like stay on on on track and stuff. Because he was talking about being a mentalist. I didn't know he had to go to like he had to like stay in a

mental facility for a long time. And he told her, he told her really he has two interviews, 1 from 2018 and one from like 3 weeks ago on the, on the 9 club, which is, you know, 2 skaters and stuff. And it's, they're really good. But he said he's in the mental asylum and they said he he was like telling stories of shit that he did. And they were like they didn't know who he was. So they were like, oh, this guy's bat shit. And he's like, no, I like did that though.

Like he's like, you can say I'm crazy, but like I. Prince's. Soundboard he bought Prince's soundboard, I think Jess, he's like and then he got a car Kim Jong Un saw like a car that he had it was talking about a. Car from Billy Idol that he sent to North Korea. Yeah, Which he did. He's like I did. That you might think he goes, if you want to lock me up because I

did that, that's fine. He's like, but I he goes Google me. Like I just picture being the guy, the orderly or whatever, like and somebody just go and like he's like Google and you're like, oh, fuck this guy. What's that fucking? Like Philly accent? Yeah. Yo, it's over there by the word or you pass me that word or over there.

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