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Certified Hood Classics 2 w/ Hans and Lowres Wünderbred

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Lowres and Hans come by to analyze four certified hood classic movies: Get Rich or Die Trying (2005), Bones (2001), Crooklyn (1994), and Above The Rim (1994). Also some talk on Mickey Rourke's Big Brother fiasco, Adolescence (2025), and more Listen to Certified Hood Classics Vol. 1 https://open.spotify.com/episode/6zAgaSf5qPSydGIgP5Vqx2 Follow Lowres and Hans on youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO9ePtV-QV5aM4W3sjczogg Keep Track of Forgotten Genres https://www.forgottengenres.com/home Rare Candy Premium Episodes and written content https://rarecandy.substack.com/ Follow Rare Candy on all platforms https://beacons.ai/rarecandy Time Stamps 00:00 Intro 02:15 Mass State Lottery 04:45 Mickey Rourke on Big Brother 08:26 Andrew Tate and Adolescence 14:42 Paranormal TV 19:30 Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2005) 40:07 Bones (2001) 52:57 Crooklyn (1994) 01:10:50 Above The Rim (1994) 01:29:31 Duane Martin and Will Smith Gay? 01:33:35 How to bring back the hood classic

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Intro

Running 5 to the six we be in the mix with that rare candy paint job on a whip. I need food for the kids, money for the rent. Fuck a lockdown baby. I can't do that shit. And I'll never vote because I'm fucking broke and either way I know the police ain't gonna leave me alone on a plane by the physical and rock me. Crypto told me I should be in the Glock with me, so I packed up my piece and I'm sliding slide because we might get caught up in a riot. Middle finger Trump, middle

finger biting fucker. Left fucking right as you riding where you let us see it. You know, politics, baby, we just talked. From the birds to the bricks. We be in the mix with that rare candy paint job on a whip we went. Found I just found out Costa Rica time. I thought it was like 8 hours ahead of where I am. It turns out it's like Colorado time which is an hour ahead of me which is really embarrassing on my part. I didn't realize how big of a continent they were working with here.

Yeah, I'm like, it's six over here. He's like AM. Yeah, I thought it was like, I was like, dude, I don't know where anything. Is everybody knows Costa Rica's in Europe? I have Pangea still on my that's I consult Pangea still on my on my thing. Yeah, I don't know.

I have no clue. But we do have the the hosts of the podcast movies, the podcast about the active cinema, but kind of more prescient and the two stars of an upcoming film, which I've already seen, not the brag called Mass State Lottery and it's low res. And Hans. First off, welcome to the show. Hans has never been on the show before, but I feel like we've recorded a million times. So it doesn't feel like much of an introduction. But our audience, we're unleashing the Hans on the

audience. But if you really want to see Hans unleashed on an audience, check out now Mass State Lottery. Yeah, your character on Mass State Lottery. That's that. Is that is a great slug line. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm not going to give anything away, but you're like, whoa. But no, seriously, about Mass

Mass State Lottery

State Lottery. I think it's really cool. At first when I watched, I was like, what is this? I did not. This is not what I thought it was because I'd been hearing about it for a long time, but it's like this the way that it's like found memories in in terms of like found footage archived in like a cloud storage thing and we're to just trust this Private Eye guy and stuff. I just love the the narrative of it and stuff. It was just, oh. Thank you. It was great. What?

So I see all these like things that you're getting it screened places and things like that. That is good. However, how tempted are you to just like, upload it to YouTube? That's not going to happen. You know, I spent four years working on on this, on this thing. So my ideal situation was all right, let me put it into somebody else's hands and deal with this and they can market it. They can do whatever the hell they want with it. Seems like America doesn't want

to screen this movie. Now granted, we still have like 40 more festivals to hear back from, but so far the American ones are like, we're good Korea. They took it Italy. Now it's going to be premiering in Rome on the 8. I don't know when this episode's going to come up, but if you're an Italian rare Candy fan, go to Casa del Cinema in Rome and see this movie on the big screen. They told me actually the movie

won an award. They won't tell me which award yet until the ceremony, so maybe I can have an Italian listener accept the award on my behalf. I don't know. We'll see. There's so many, they'll be fighting over it all. I I don't even want to cause a battle between all the We're so big in the boot. Well, I got to say thank you to you as well because you helped fund the second movie, Hans, and I shot that I was editing right

before hopping on here. And if you think Hans is unleashed in Mass Day Lottery, just wait for this new one where he's the star, where he's the lead character. Is he? Is he becoming the next Kevin Spacey? I think we need to ask. That's what I think about every time I look at his face, is is he becoming the next Kevin Spacey? Yeah, I mean, I just, I just, no, I, I mean, I think, I think maybe he's just got it because he talked to him. He is just not a creep, you know what I mean?

But then. You. Well, depends on who you ask, I guess. You. Know I have the Malcolm Gladwell principles of like where if you, you know, he says if you practice something for 10,000 hours, you're an expert. If you talk to somebody for longer than an hour and a half, you know them so that the Hans has passed the threshold. So he's he's normal guys, believe me. But yeah, no, I'm really excited about Mass State lottery. And I don't know if you guys heard about Mickey Rourke,

Mickey Rourke on Big Brother

though. Mickey Rourke is a big character on on movies. Mickey Rourke got in a little trouble this week. Oh yeah, I've been following this very close because I'm also a big time reality TV fan so I would be excited about Celebrity Big Brother regardless. But Mickey Rourke on Celebrity Big Brother is peanut butter and Jelly for me. He so I guess what happened was is there is I don't know what this I see the name.

I thought they were I thought it was a snack at first, like JoJo Tzuwa. I thought it was gonna be like pie at a store or something, but Mickey Rourke was. I don't, I don't even know how to say it. He was doing like the old school, like, oh, you're gay, just wait till I'd fuck you, you know what I mean? Like he. Was like. I have so many women that are gay. Like he would probably do that. He probably thought it was

Florence Pugh, I feel like. But he he was just, he just said that to her and she she didn't much care for him and he left Big Brother. But man, what a legend. Which is confusing because if you go to his Instagram, you're like, but aren't, aren't you gay too? Aren't you like a trans woman now or something?

You know what's going on there. He appreciates masculine musculature, that's what it. Is it's a bit of it, I think he likes to, you know, rotating between the two extremes of the spectrum and but things I guess are very binary in his head. That's that's the way the bodies look like when they're all oiled up and muscular. Yeah, we. He's. Bronze Age. He's Bronze Age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not. I mean, it's completely straight. Yeah, it's not gay. He's admiring it.

He wants to be that, you know, he's, what, 70? What 70? 72 damn is he? 72 years old. Wow. Doesn't look a day over 30, he. Looks like my high school catcher's glove right now. Yeah, that's not very old, but yeah, the. Yeah, the yeah, that was, that was amazing. Immediately when we were scheduling this, I I was just like, wow, of course a Rourke bomb happens. I mean, I wonder what? I wonder what they were thinking about getting him right.

Like did you look him up at all after he's done with? I mean, he's not done, but he's kind of done with like I think career. I don't think you would put him in a place with young people and expect him to not say shit like that. Like why? Why are you expecting it to? Work. They clearly wanted it to happen. But then why are you only keeping him for a couple of days and then kick him out and make a big deal out of it? I'll tell you why that's what is going to happen.

Here's the reason why. Because his appearance fee was supposed to be half $1,000,000. What? Yes, 500,000. This was reported in the local press. And if you kick him out over a rule violation, well then you get all the clout of the Mickey Rourke name for about 1/5 the cost. So they kicked him out after the first eviction over threatening a guy. So there was the JoJo Siwa incident where he was using some language you're not supposed to

use in the UK anymore, right? And then after that, some dude was like giving him the eye. And then Mickey took that as a real threat even though they were in the middle of a pirate challenge. So they're all in pirate uniforms and he's like, I'll fucking lay you out, cunt. And then they're like, Mickey, go to the diary Room, go to the diary room, Mickey, you can't threaten people. And then they decided to give him the boot, and they wound up

saving $400,000 through that. So that was kind of the play. That's what they do to college football coaches here is like when they have like a 10 year deal worth like, you know, $80 million and they're like, man, we've been horrible the last three years. How do we fire this guy? And they're like you. Know you touch someone. Hire a hot Hire a hot staffer and give. It like, yeah, they want the harassment, yeah.

That's what they and it's, I'm not joking, it's literally what they do. It's just, but it's funny the

Andrew Tate and Adolescence

he's lucky he didn't get arrested because of Britain, I mean Britain, I feel. Like he's arrested something. Like that because I mean, he might be the subject of adolescence too at this point, just. I just saw that the the Tates are going to be suing Netflix or somebody over that, so they should. They should. I mean, it was ridiculous. That show, we did a whole thing on it and everything, but that was on the paywall. Rare candy.substack.com.

But we when I was watching that, it was weird because I thought they were going to make up like a fake manosphere guy, like their own guy, like kind of like a Tom Cruise Magnolia situation. I thought they were gonna make up a guy, but they're like, he's been watching the Andrew Tate shite. He's been watching it in his in his room up until 1:00 in the morning, like, and and I'm like, are you, you really brought up Andrew Taylor? I'd be pissed too, dude. Like if you brought my name like come.

On yeah that's so stupid yeah that is that is calling for a for a lawsuit yeah cuz can you prove anything that's. The thing right And the story's about a kid murdering his classmate, a girl classmate who who like spams him red pill emojis and calls him an insult the whole time and then he watches an Andrew Tate video apparently and then kills his classmate, which has happened many times I'm. Sure, How does he kill he? Stabs her stabs her in the

middle of the street. It's caught on street Cam and and then they they make it they make it to hate on conspiracy theory people because they make it like because it's clear as day that he does it on camera. And there's actually a pretty intense scene where the the dad Stephen Grant what's. The guy's name. Stephen Graham. Yeah, he is watching it, and he's because he thinks his son's innocent. He watches it and he's like,

it's really, it's sad. And I was like, oh crap, the Lib tarts are getting good at this shit and then it's horrible after that. For the next, this is the thing with a show like adolescence is because you have somebody as talented as Stephen Graham and also the showrunner or the creator did the chef series Boiling Point, which is done in like 1 tag and the there's a movie of that that is very good.

And they worked with a director that I admire, Shane Meadows on This is England and 86, which were spin off miniseries of a great movie called This is England. And so they're talented people that are involved, but you can see that they're so consumed with the message that it is trampling over any sort of value that the series could potentially have. So you'll you'll get these little Nuggets of like, wow, that's that's great.

Because I was thinking that specifically in the the final episode where Stephen Graham has had his Van Graffiti and then he's going and about to be. There's moments that are great, but then you, you know, you cut back to the detectives and they're like, what do you know about this word in cell? And it's like, oh, we're we're doing this law and order fucking. What was it Hollyoaks or something where the dudes in the black pill chat room and then

you get the that was ridiculous. The UK seems especially sensitive to that word incel. They think it's like opening up the dark web or something. I don't know. Crazy. Well, the the thing I was saying was they also got they took a shot at the conspiracy theorist because it's clear as day the kid murders the girl on TV, but then there's the guy that works at the paint store where they're like, I, I support you guys. Oh oh, your son didn't kill nobody. So on the TV and he stopped them

three times in the throat. But they could do anything with AI nowadays and like it's clear. So they're like, oh, actually if you question literally anything, you're like a retarded paint story. Movie oh wait, so that's so AI is what they're going to use instead of Q now?

Is that the new? One, I think I, well, I think they're just anybody who can't accept objective reality, which is anything a Democrat or left lean, whatever it is in Britain, left-leaning person says that you're, they're like, look at how absurd that is, you know, and, and so, and the apparently the footage has been released, you know, and everything, but

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you. And lastly, check us out on social media. On Instagram, we're Rare Candypod, but on Twitter, we're at Rare Candypod one. All right, enough of that. Let's get you back into the episode. We didn't talk. We're not talking about anything British past this today. We're talking about, we're talking about America here. Some American classics made, well, a couple. Well, similar, similar crime that happens in that. Show right? Yeah, that's true. The. Real 1 It's Bernie Mac.

It's Bernie Mac instead of a 13 year old girl. But. Yeah, rest in peace Bernie Mac, fake Bernie Mac and real Bernie Mac. Homeless Bernie Mac, it's just rough. But because he's going to use his yellow teeth to stop traffic later, which is a great line in the movie. But yeah, we're going to talk about four certified hood classics. In fact, we'll decide if they

are. I think now this episode you're looking at the description, you're probably having a an aneurysm or something because you're just like, wait, Certified Hood Classics 2 where's the first one? You're scrolling back in the old episode field. You're not going to find it. You're going to have to go to movies, the podcast about the act of cinema where we covered 4 films on that and we decided I had to do it. It was so much fun. I had to do it on in this arena

over here. But we each picked 2 films, each podcast picked 2 films, making a total of four and we wanted to some are good, some are bad, some are unwatchable, some are like, how the fuck did this happen? And, and I think, I think each of us picked the dud and each of us picked a good one, I think. I am so curious to hear which one you think is a dud because I in my head my 2 picks are like these are sterling outstanding films so I I'm so curious to

hear. OK, all right, yeah, I, I don't know, it feels pretty objective in my mind, but all right, we'll we'll talk about it. But I real fast. This is such a hack move. Been watching a little Entourage lately and stuff like I'm handing you a script right now, but I just if look, you're I know you guys have a million projects or something, but I think this would be perfect for Hans and you to make this. This is a guy who found you guys

Paranormal TV

want you guys can I think on Spotify, you can watch us on video. So if you guys want to see this, this is crazy. There's a a a a man, an African American gentleman who claims that a Vietnamese man is spying on him through his TV. So here's here's the I think this would be a great like Blumhouse tear. Oh, I think I saw. That I've seen the video well, we just. Heard him say the shit right? What he said what he said e-mail through the TV right *** just

laying in this bitch. Wonder why a *** can't sleep right All right look up, look at my motherfucking TV my *** because I shit like you to sleep. Use this shit to go to sleep man. Look at this shit dog. Hey man, y'all go and get rid of them for we we get rid of TV's man Look at this pussy ass Vietnamese Chinese looking motherfucker man sitting there hearing some type of studio or something dog with the

headphone. This *** is live right now, this live feed this *** live right now watching the *** bro while *** sleep bro. What do you got? What do you I mean I, I think it's $1,000,000 idea. I think again, you guys have a, a, a guy who's appeared in mass state lottery Kenny, right? So I don't know which role he would play. Who knows? You guys decide that you're the expert and then. Wait, but what happened there? I thought it was just a burned image of a Chinese man on the. TV.

No, he was moving. Yeah, he was moving apparently. So here's what happened. I hate community notes. Don't do this to this video. We do not need this explained. Apparently he had autoplay from YouTube up and it kind of like like, have you ever done that where like you can still see the old thing you were watching like in your TV sometimes like where it's like up in the I have an old TV.

So maybe that's the case. But it said autoplay from YouTube. So he was apparently just watching a Vietnamese guy on YouTube or that was CUDA. He had been watching Vietnamese people on you. He's probably a gamer I would imagine. He was confused about the video he picked. Well, it's autoplay. Maybe he didn't. So maybe he didn't. But I mean he's watched similar content you would think. He didn't think about pressing pause, maybe, or anything on the video.

We just, no, it's just a Chinese man looking at me, no. Community notes that that's perfect as is like and and I'm libertarian about it. If you want to start breaking their TV's over that because there's Vietnamese people spying on them. I mean, you, you technically are getting spied on if you have a smart TV. I mean, look, you are, you know, they could let if you were, if this was adolescence in Britain and you shouted a few in cell words at the TVI mean stranger things of that.

Yeah, he wouldn't be a Chinese man, but he would be a man with a funny hat. The. Chinese guy would be shouting it. The Chinese guy would be shouting him into the TV. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But so certified hood classics. Now, I grew up watching these. I loved these. I I had AI was pretty much only into like sports and rap as a kid. So I loved like rap movies and movies that were just elongated music videos as we will watch.

So as we watched on one of these, did you guys grow up watching any kind of stuff like this? I mean, yeah, on and off. Like I feel like one of the earliest examples of an R rated movie that I was exposed to was probably Boys in the Hood. I feel like that was on HBO or show one of those networks around like 1990, five, 1996, which I would have been like really young. Like we're, I believe we're the same age. We're I think we're like I'm October 15th of 90.

I think you're like right around the corner of. The I'm October 23rd of 90. There you go. So yeah, yeah, yeah. That's we were so you were watching it when you were five years old boys in. The Hood, yeah, that was, that was probably the first, the first one. And then I actually, you know what? I, I have a story here that does tie back to one of our certified hood classics. Debatable. Certified hood classics.

Apparently Crooklyn 'cause you know how you would get those like penny slips in the mail for like hey you can, you can get 5 VHS tapes for a dollar here. Now I was watching a show on Nick Junior back then called Gullegulla Island of course, and the mom on Gullegulla Island had braids and so I saw in Crooklyn while the mom has braids, this must be the same family from Gullegulla Island. So I had my mom put through the slip to get the tape, and then I got Crooklyn and that was

another early one. And then I was disappointed it was not Gullegulla Island, the movie impoverished Brooklyn black family. Yeah, Delroy Lindo gambled. Where? Like he wasn't able to maintain Gullegulla Island set so they had to move away or leave the kid somewhere. Yeah, there's no giant orange frog hover. It was just Spike Lee huffing paint from a bag. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What a great self insert there. That's just wonderful.

That's a wonderful thing. Now I think we should go personally, I think we should go reverse chronological. I just, I think personally, I think that works well for me because I'm dying to talk about get rich or die trying, OK?

Get Rich or Die Tryin' (2005)

OK, my favorite one of the four, by the way. No, by the way all. Right. Is this one you hate, Glenn? Oh, I, I saw it when it came out in theaters. I, I loved $0.50 at the time. He could do no wrong. I didn't realize how bad this was. I was like, wow. I well the problem is it's two hours long. It's just like why is this 2 hours? Long there is, there is. Just there is zero reason for this movie to be two hours long. It should be 88 minutes long and it probably would have been fine.

I think $0.50 is a star though. I love $0.50 like he is. I I was going down the rabbit hole today of how like funny he was 'cause I just remember he was, There was nobody funnier. It's still nobody funnier than him. His stuff about the Diddy stuff right now is hilarious. Like there was a guy who. Went on like went out and was like, did he kidnapped me and sodomized me in a van and like $0.50 was like, I, I don't care what settlement you're getting.

I would never pay that. Like I would never ever tell anybody that I'm like a TV. So he's still he's on like Andrew Schultz is whatever the one where Andrew Schultz is yelling that he's on that podcast. And I listened to that for as long as I could and it was it was it was really funny. But I just remember $0.50 Floyd Mayweather feud. I loved his like orchestrated feuds that he would do started I think with well, not started.

The biggest 1 he did earliest I think was Kanye when him they had the Curtis album versus graduation. That's right. And they did like a really fake. It was awesome. I mean, thinking about thinking back at it, how cool that actually was that that happened. He had like beefs before that he was kind of a a shithead about I think Ghostface Killah got him and him got in an actual fist fight before $0.50 was actually famous.

But I also just love this quick video from $0.50 baiting Floyd Mayweather into reading Harry Potter for the instead of doing the ice bucket challenge. There's a special ASLELS challenge for you Floyd. If you could read 1 full page of a Harry Potter book. *** I'll give 750,000 to whatever charitable organization you want to fuck the bucket eyes. I love it and I don't think Floyd did it. I don't think Floyd did it either. Like which is like a brilliant idea.

A brilliant I 750,000 you turned down. Do you ever hear the clip of him trying to read something on the radio that they had? Yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad. But the movie this is made after $0.50 is is much is famous and wants to kind of tell the story about his, about his getting rich or dying trying.

I mean, you, you decide. He starts off, it's kind of a starts off with a gun in his face after a kind of a kind of an insane robbery of a Columbia, a seemingly innocent Colombian family. And the there's a gun in his face and then his life flashes before his eyes. But Hans, I am dying to hear why this was your favorite one. I maybe because I didn't like the other ones as much. I think I had a lot of fun with how dumb this movie was and and I really like how over the top everyone is.

Yeah, this movie also has the legendary micro penis scene with Terrence. Howard Oh, yeah. You know I call back this so. Often it's. Like it's like Eastern promises with black people. It's crazy like. Promise is very tiny. There's nothing behind that promise that's. A crazy scene. It like it's like feels like it doesn't fit in the movie. You're like, wait, this is like

really like, like raw. Exactly because he demanded it because they were going to out his his ex-wife, his Asian ex-wife was going to out his photos of his tiny penis. So he had to have a conversation with 51 day where he was like, listen, I know this wasn't in the script and it's your movie, but can I show my tiny penis in the shower scene please? This is about to happen to me. It makes sense. I'm Naked with a bunch of men, so of course it's tiny, right?

Yeah, when he has the he has the well then he, I mean, when you have a a, a Dick like that, you will get into advanced like nuclear Egyptian mathematics and go on rogue and like that is the only thing you can do after that is you do Iron Man and then empire and then go do that. Yeah, you need a hobby as a teenager 'cause you can't play with your Dick that much. So. So you get into weird things that teenagers usually don't get into.

I I really thought some of the lines were really funny too, like him saying everyone was in love with my mom so anyone could be my dad. That made me laugh right at the beginning because everyone wanted to fuck his mom, which is, which is true. And I just, even though it's a, it's a very simple story, I guess for a movie, I mean, everything that happens is kind of outrageous.

And, and I don't know if I believe it 100% obviously because it's a, it's a biopic, but I just, I really like him on screen. I think he's very charismatic and I think he, he was well, obviously a great pick to play himself, but he, he, I, I didn't know him as an actor before this. I don't know if he ever did acting, but he is really good in this. So I just, I just enjoyed seeing him on screen.

And even though I I was already familiar with the story, I kind of wanted to see it and I don't think I've ever seen it before so. Were you a fan of his music? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like some of his stuff. Yeah, not not huge, but I like some of his early stuff. I'm not familiar with with a lot of it, but yeah. When Get Richer dying, that was one of those Get Richer died trying was when it came out, I guess low res and I both probably like 7th grade I wanna say.

And I remember going to Lake Tahoe on a snow trip, and I'm not like a snowboarder or skier or anything, but we just went to the snow with my friends and that had just come out. And the In the Club video had come out where he's being, like, researched while he's doing pull ups. Yeah. How did he survive this? Like, that was just this whole thing was he got shot and his jaw was messed up. Him and Kanye both had messed up jaws. It was a very interesting time

for for rap. But I just remember that album being like, wow, this is amazing. And he would just start beefs with like whoever. He was just one of those guys who never really felt like he was going to be famous for a long time. So he had to like strike while the iron was hot, but he just kept staying famous. And then, you know, shout out to Power, which I've watched the first season of and I to be honest, I liked it. It's it's like hardcore

pornography. That's when you watch like Power. It's crazy. It was like reverse cowgirl scenes and stuff. Like full, like full on reverse cowgirl scenes. I'm like he's an outdoor. Yeah, whatever. The intimacy coordinator discourse does not reach the STARS network. Let me tell. You Hey, is that is that the show where the Carmelo Anthony's wife yes gets naked or? She's getting fucked constantly in that and then and then there's like 2.

Yeah, La, La. And then of course, that then NBA player starts saying she smells like Honey Nut Cheerios and stuff to Carmelo Anthony. But yeah, it's it's that he's had a hell of a career. I mean, and he's a Trump supporter, right? Well, until Chelsea Handler says, hey, you can't do that. And then he shuts his mouth. You can't have the characters you. Can't have this fucking cobwebbed vagina anymore.

Yeah. I mean, this movie's kind of it's different from the other films we talked about on the last show and then that we have lined up for this show and that it comes in kind of late. It's part of a different era of hood movies where you had Eight Mile, I feel like was the true kickoff for specifically like rapper biopics. That one was considered a big success critically and also at

the box office. And it's kind of funny, Hans, that you say like the the movie's so stupid, but then you look at who directed it and who wrote it. And you have Jim Sheridan, who's like an extremely accomplished director who would never touch a movie like this. And then also Terence Winter, who's like one of the defining voices of The Sopranos Boardwalk Empire. He wrote the script. You wouldn't get that really

from watching the movie. It is kind of a simpleton movie, but I think this is the best example. Maybe it's between this and Hustle and Flow of aughts Hood rapper. Yeah. Biopics and and movie making. Hustle and flow. You have hustle and flow. Who coming out? I don't know, at the same time or maybe around the same time? Get rich or die trying was 2005. Hustle and flow. I feel like that might have actually been the same or or a year or two before. Terrence Howard.

And Terrence Howard, I mean, it's Terrence Howard in both, which is kind of funny. But yeah, I just remember that the thing like the buy up and then you have like, I know they're not the same, but you have the success of the Ray Charles walk the line. You know, I feel like there was a everybody wanted to tell the like the, the, the ascension

story, you know? Jim Sheridan was doing fucking Daniel Day Lewis movies before this, My Left Foot and In the Name of the Father. Well, my left foot was quite a bit before, so, you know, maybe he wasn't eating super good, you know, up until then. Because if he was, this is a weird. It's like $0.50. It's like $0.50 catching like blackmail on you or something. Like now you got to do my movie. Yeah. He went from from doing a music video for Sinead O'Connor to do

and get rich or die try. Wow. Yeah, a couple. I I remember there were a lot of things. These are movies where I saw them. The only movie I hadn't seen before was Crooklyn for this for this thing. Everything else I had seen before, but I kind of like retcon certain actors is in the movie. I thought the villain who is played by the guy plays out of BC in ounces. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was Akon when I was like is I mean let's be real, they not hard to confuse those two guys.

I mean they both are like just jacked like African guys. And Akon was probably too busy because he was was isn't he bringing electricity to African villages? I think he was already working on that probably. Yeah, he's still working on it, I think. Yeah. The only crypto city was it. That's. So funny. Yeah. I thought it was him because I was like, damn. I was like, isn't this a movie where like $0.50 and Akon like go at it like De Niro and Pacino

and he like. $0.50 was in one with De Niro and Pacino around the same time. Was it righteous Kill? No. Was he in that movie? That's a. Bad movie. Yeah, that's a bad movie. I remember that. I remember that. But yeah, it was there. There's that one. I love the the reliance on the Rick James joke that just doesn't hit and it never lands. But they have to keep going back to it and like breaking the 4th wall with it. And it's like Rick James, kill your mom. No, not really Rick James.

It's the guy that looks like Rick James and. Then he he tapes the picture of Rick James to his mirror that he forgets about until like 10 years later that he pulls it out and he's like, I can't remember. I have this Rick James picture. It's so funny. Yeah, he has the. There's that There's the there's just like the yeah, the Terrence Howard. There's his friends who were guy

these actor names I never get. But like the big, you know, the big goofy football player looking guy that's in here, the big goofy fat guy. I can't remember what his name is. The black. Friend Omar Omar Benson Miller. Omar Benson Miller, Yeah. He he, these guys are like, not really like, yeah, I they're not gang bangers really like you. You just, they're not believable gang bangers in a sense. And, and it's just funny how like $0.50 has to like take the gun.

He's like, I'm going to do this shit. I'm the hardest one. And he goes out and just shoots up like a bodega or something. And he's like, yeah, this really happened. This is my story because you're not allowed to lie about that stuff like you're. Not you're not. Supposed to lie about like, well, I mean, people do, but like something verifiable is like new homicide in New York, like not that long ago. Like people go, yeah, I know who actually did that stuff, you

know what I mean? It's just. Got it. You don't think he got saved by his grandmother saying his name and then that's why he's gonna get shot in the head? He probably heard Viola Davis's Poison when it happened because that's the beginning of many men. That's basically many men, right? The song like essentially, which yeah, it's, it's funny, but he is good, $0.50 is really good.

I like his. I like how there's zero apprehension from his girlfriend, by the way, when they first meet up after a long time and it's clear that he's just a drug runner. And she's kind of like not she's like a nurse or I don't know what she is. She's like something, something smart. She's cuz she's hanging out with that gay black guy. Theater. Theater Black. Guy it might be. Immediately. Yeah, Yeah. She's like, oh, sure, I'll go out with you. Yeah, sure.

No, yeah. Yeah, he's like, hey, do you want to go eat? And the guy's just standing next to her there. It's just like, yeah, it just disappears. Who cares? The movie has the weirdest tone to it, where it's like there's moments that they try to have Comic Relief, but it's not nearly as funny as some of the other parts of it. I don't know. I do agree, I think, I think the the movie takes its turn into, Oh yeah, this is $0.50.

This is the fifth modern $0.50. A little too late and it feels like it wraps it up too quick toward the very end. It's. I don't know, it's crazy because I do. I think the movie is still a success, which is contrary to what the critics thought. Is that like 16% on Rotten Tomatoes? Yeah. That I, I don't know. I think people were just like put off by the fact maybe it came out too close to 8 Mile and that was like an Oscar contender

for some categories. I think that's racist because black people don't use Rotten Tomatoes. This is a bunch of white people. Yeah, yeah, on Rotten Tomatoes and giving it 18% like. What's the what's the black alternative? Is it? Is it moldy grapes? Yes, yes. Well, let's see if that domain name's available, but yeah, no. Yeah. Because that's what I was wondering. I was like, this is you can't do

that. I like if horror is baked in at 80% or whatever, modern horror movies are baked, Yeah, These movies should at least get a solid 50 to 60, You know what I mean? Because like I. It's definitely not 16 like it's not no, it's not a terrible movie. It's not 40 shot 47. I mean, yeah, I I think it's closer to yeah to like A to like

a mid, a middle, whatever. It's, it's a fun movie to watch, but it's not really, it's not going to stick with the oh, there's nothing really memorable about it or anything that you're going to think about afterwards. It's just kind of there. Well, the music's incredible too. I love the music. I like Window. I love Window Shopper, how he records it later in the movie, but it's playing when he gets his first car and it's like, it's funny because it sounds like it's playing in the car.

And I was like, oh, did you already record that? Like really professional, like definitely not in your apartment with your friends, like song. And then it's like later, it's like, no, I got it. I'm recording Window Shop. It's like an hour later in the movie when he records it. I love that. I like the fact that they implemented the mouth mumble thing 'cause I never knew why he mumbled. Yeah, and then I, I guess I learned that it was because he was shot in the mouth at the

beginning. I mean, I like his. I like his sex. Song that turned on his childhood girlfriend that later becomes his. I like the two live crew. Kind of like sex Song that the parents are listening to. Like the Beastie Boys parents disapproving parents in the living. When are we getting a Beastie Boys biopic that seems long overdue? Michael Rapaport's complaining there's no work in Hollywood. Why don't you just make that?

Yeah, because, you know, if there's something that Hollywood doesn't like to hire is. Yeah, no, they don't. They don't like. To tell Jew. No, they famously don't like to tell Jewish stories or hire Jewish actors. And, and it'd be funny if they hired not none, like no Jewish actors to play the Beastie Boys. It was just like Josh O'Connor as. No, we got to get, we got to get a Beastie Boys biopic the same way they're doing that Beatles biopic, which is 4 movies over

six years. The Ad Rock one with Kathleen Hannah would be incredible with him just getting whipped to. The wait wait wait hold on, they're doing 4 Beatles movies. Yes, four. It's the Beatle verse, dude. You're not ready for the Beatle verse. You have a movie podcast, you're doing 4 episodes on them I hope. What? I just saw the image of the actors they picked and I was like, okay, I didn't really. I don't care. Are they gonna do an Avengers

like altogether one afterwards? You would have to assume it's leading to that, yeah. Which is funny cuz my problem with a lot of TV and stuff nowadays is nobody knows if they have the show anymore, like after a season. So like people just kind of, you could tell these things are segmented and segmented and it's just, but I like the idea that these Beatles movies are like, no, you're getting four of them.

They're all going to be great and everyone's going to want and no one's going to laugh at this or think it's retarded or something. And we're going to put out four separate ones of these. Is it each of their store? I mean, I, I don't know. How? The problem is, I deeply care and I'm still not going to be. I'm a huge Beatles fan, so I was just like.

Your Beatles episode actually got me on a total Beatles kick because I was absolutely one of those people where I was just like together, the vanilla ice cream of music. And I glossed over them completely ignored them. And then I went on a deep dive and specifically into George Harrison. It was kind of funny timing. He's. The best?

Around the same time, I begun to look into Handmade Films, his production company, where he financed a bunch of these really interesting, mostly English Life of Brian. Yeah, I believe it started with Life of Brian, and then he did long Good Friday, which is one of my personal favorites. Bob Austin. 'S did he really? Oh, my gosh. Yeah, Yeah. No, he had he had taste and he and then he hated British taxes, so he would just spend all day. I mean, you wrote the song The

Tax Man back in the 60s. But I mean, British taxes, it's kind of like British free speech. Like it's similar. Like, if you think you get taxed a lot in America, like they're just, they pay to like the queen to just be, to just here you go. You can have a bunch of money to do whatever it is you guys do. And he would, he would just write. Yeah, he would just write letters to the like about how taxes are bullshit all day.

I really, really think George Harrison, he would, he would love some certified hood classics. If only he was alive today to fund. I don't know. I don't know what people. That's the problem. I don't know what people. This is an extinct genre, by the way. Like, it's this, it's the sad part. Like, are they who's making these? They're not putting them out in the theaters. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, what was the last big

one? The last one that I can think of was Notorious and that was at the tail end of this like 50 Cent Eight Mile Hustle and flow era of movie making. Was the run DMC1 after notorious? Who the run DMC 1? I don't even. Remember the run? Yeah. Is there a Run DMC movie? I don't even know. This Oh no there wasn't run DMC. It was What's the ice cube? Oh, the NW straight out of Compton. Yeah, that's. Right.

Yeah, those. Were really like big budget, though, It's like like the I'm trying to think of like there's just this genre and I I think to be originals kind of are like what's what's coming of that, which I think I mean, hey, I I just I'm glad it's better than a lot of I mean I'm sorry, it's more entertaining than a lot of stuff people are making right now that are that is much more high falutin and high art, you know. It's, you know, they took like the the FUBU ethos for us by us, right.

And the budget is always $2000 Max, which I have to appreciate, you know. Curtis Snow did it for like $168 man, and that was all liquor store tabs. Probably like a guy just like black bag liquor store. My my favorite thing about those tubing movies is that you can tell I don't have enough money to pay the actresses to get naked. So whenever there's a a sex scene, it's always with like 5 blankets on them and she's fully clothed and it's shot in a way where you could only see like

half of her face. Like you see nothing, no hint of body or anything, and it's just because you just got someone's cousin to be in their movie and she's not going to get naked for no money. They put a they put a link to her only fans. So like if you want to see. It you know, we we were watching some on YouTube and they would have like actors come into the scene and then their Twitter at would be right in the left hand corner. That's a hood classic thing though.

Like that's like, I don't out here we have like dudes that drive like kind of the term is is racist, but I don't know what else to call them like rice rockets and stuff, you know, like the little like lowered Honda Civics with the spoiler and stuff. Like, and sometimes there's a big, well, a lot of Mexican dudes that out here and they have their Instagram just like all over the windows. Like it's just everywhere. It'll be like at, you know, cheese boy or something. I don't know.

It was just a blunt weird ass name. Like it'll. Be why is Why is Rice rocket racist? It's like Honda, like rice. Oh. Yeah, this is a old school term. I don't know. I that's a new one. Oh, yeah, yeah. That, that, that we, you know, I'm in the Bay Area, so there's, you know, there's a lot of them. So yeah, got to have a name for something, right. And. Surprised they can drive them,

am I right guys? No comment but the Anyways, the the, the one of the other things I love is actually the death scene with his mom is kind of insane in like get rich or die trying. Like I cuz I don't know if $0.50's mom actually died or something Cuz I, I listen to a lot of his music, especially back then. I don't remember hearing that, but let's just say did like did they really like lighter on fire inside of the house and stuff like crazy? That was just a weird.

This doesn't seem like that. Seems like something that should

Bones (2001)

have been in bones. You would think so, yeah. Bones is also of that era and I, you know, this is one that Bones slipped by me and I was very aware of Bones I when I, when I threw it on last night, I had to do a good old fashioned 399 rental for me too. For for a lot of these movies I had to, which is embarrassing. It's like who is what? OK, besides you and me, who has paid 399 to rent bones in the

last six to seven years? Because anybody that likes the movie is not paying 399 for it, I'll just tell you that. Much. No, they're definitely not. You know, Bones actually got a boutique distribution kind of recently. I guess New Line sold it off to. I don't think it was Vinegar Syndrome, but it was. Was it maybe like Shout Factory or something? Yeah. So there's an audience out there who's wanting to watch Bones in 2025.

But this was the first time that I watched Bones 'cause I'm just kind of naturally averse to Snoop Dogg. Anytime I see Snoop Dogg, I'm thinking of, you know, just the cheapest commercials on the planet and him Hawking some horrible product or doing a cooking show with Martha Stewart. Why don't you change your HP inkjet printer cartridge, nephew? You know, Once Upon a time, I think, you know, Snoop Dogg was kind of an interesting guy, and I don't consider him remotely

that now. So when you pick Bones, I was like, OK, wow. Bones is definitely one that's been on the radar and it's. A great poster. It's a great poster. Yeah, and it the director of the movie, I, I, I mentioned it to you over DM, but Ernest Dickerson is one of like the most revered directors of photography and was Spike Lee's go to guy for a number of years. And he directed this movie and I think he elevated it beyond what the capacity for it should have been.

Otherwise, although I was not a fan of this Bones movie, I'll be frank with you. It's terrible, Yeah. And, and here's the problem is it's like you don't go into this thinking, wow, this, this is going to be great. What you're hoping for is it's like trashy and like tawdry and bad, but it's so like sterile. That's my problem with it is like get like really black magic, get like really weird, like like way more rapey. Like there's a there.

There needed to be a good old fashioned rape scene in this and there just wasn't. Like how is it rated R? What's rated R about it other than, I guess the cursing? Maybe, yeah, you see Pam Grier, like, is Pam Grier gonna get naked? Maybe that's what makes it naked. Nope, doesn't happen. I love the I love that one part at the beginning because the the premise of the movie, I I still don't quite know what's

happening. By the way, there's a bunch of guys trying to buy like a old like haunted apartment project building to throw events in, which again, seems like it could happen. And there there's this tale of Jimmy Bones, who is guys, you'll never guess it. It's a pimp played by Snoop Dogg from back in the day. That's that's paranormal and twisted and but not at all like he's they they don't make him a real villain. That's the problem with the Snoop Dogg star vehicle movie.

It's like no, he should be like Freddy Krueger level insane. I I just kept thinking that it is OK. This feels like A Nightmare on Elm Street mixed with, I don't know if you've seen Candyman. Yeah, there's a bit of Candyman in there for sure. I was thinking Halloween Resurrection. Cause the gimmick of that movie was they're going to the Michael Myers house to host an online reality show and they're going to broadcast the whole thing.

And you have like characters who are basically like the teenagers in this movie running amuck and getting killed off 1 after another. So I was like, OK, this came first I believe. So they must have taken from Bones. There's no other option. I mean, also this was actually kind of a popular genre though 'cause I feel like House on Haunted Hill did a similar thing and it was 13 Ghosts, which was another kind of a similar vibe where hey I. Tried to watch, I tried to

rewatch that too. I was like wow, this is bad. Oh, 13 times it does. Not hold up at all. I liked. It I liked it a lot when it came up, my wife and I were like, let's be a little nostalgia mode. We're like, let's found 13 ghosts. Sorry, how cool this was. I was for some reason, I thought it was the haunting with like Owen Wilson and that wasn't that was a different. Movie I. Think and I watched 13 Ghosts. I was like, man, this is good. But yeah, you're right, though

it is in that vein. They tried to make this a because Snoop Dogg does a superior movie around this time. Maybe next time. I know you might be sick of Snoop Dogg, but I love I love him and he's great in Baby Boy. Oh yeah, he was. No, he was terrific in Baby Boy and I'll even say in Starsky and Hush. Huggy Bear, he's great, yeah, but the but the wash starring him and Doctor Dre is great. That's a great movie.

And it's and they do a great marketing thing in that movie where Eminem leaves his patented like Eminem voicemails as like a crazy white guy that's going to shoot up the car car wash at some point. He's like, yeah, you fucking fag. Yeah, you know, like, you know, and he's like calling it on the like he's doing like insane, unhinged Eminem Marshall Mathers voicemails. What a that's a much better vehicle for like that rap scene that was happening at the time. And this bones.

I I wanted it to be like trashy and like gross and just like Samuel Delaney level like insane. But it just again, why is it rated R? You might as well just make APG 13 movie if you're going to. Do this. Yeah, it it has a it has like a weird MTV movie stink to it that I couldn't wash off which. By the way, get rich or die try and was an MTV movie and a hell of a lot. Better.

Way better. Yeah. And it doesn't feel like, I don't know, there's there's something about movies from 2000, 2001, 2003 where I think they all kind of have like a similar vibe where it's like technology is coming, right? So, so technology is going to be a big thing, but it's not there yet. But we're still going to try to kind of use it, but it's clunky and it doesn't work and it's kind of feels out of place. So all of those movies always feel like they're from that

period of time. And for whatever reason, that always feels like a, like a, an MTV movie to me. Even the way that they're shots, the angles they use and, and the way that they use camera movements. I don't know why. It just reminds me of watching like an MTV Video when which is that was groundbreaking. You know, I feel like MTV hasn't put out a dud ever. If you look at MTV movies, you have Joe's apartment, which is already kind of wacky for the 90s.

I'm sure it's not as good as we remember, right? Napoleon Dynamite. Classic. The foot fist way I believe was an MTV. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Get rich or die trying. Crossroads Jackass Movies. Crossroads starring Britney Spears. Wasn't there you go. Classic Crossroads. Love that movie. Yeah, that might be the dud I think, but the. Certified Hood Classic, yeah. Well, Freddy got fingered at an MTV movie. It might have been. It might have been, I think it was Universal.

I feel like a like a maybe it was, I don't know. Disney owns it now. It had to be Fox. Fox Yes. Bone bones. Oh, I can't wait for them to get Freddie into Space Jam 3. That would be fun, yeah. Bones. Bones got 27% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's crazy they it got a higher rating than get rich or ditron. Yeah, it's insane that. Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm like, I don't. I think we need to look into the white nationalist movement happening at Red Rotten Tomatoes.

Right now. I think I don't feel safe going on the site personally. I wonder if it's a lot of just oh, you're glamorizing violence or whatever the fuck. But you're not allowed to tell black person not to do that though. That's the. Thing true I'll. Compliment. I'll compliment Bones on two things. The first is getting Pam Grier for this movie. She's still looking good. It's right after Jackie Brown. She's probably like almost 60 here.

I love how she's supposed to be this like weird seance like homeless looking woman. Yeah, yeah. And I think the guy says as much as like, damn, she's fine. Like they say guys like this crazy bitch, like warning me about the building. I love that. And then what's the other thing? Yeah, the the other thing is these awful effects in the film, like there's clearly like a smoke overlay with a person's face in it that could have been downloaded off of YouTube today and then implemented and look

better. And then also when the the dog turns to whoever and it has a human's face and it talks. I was like this movie is retarded, this is great. What Snoop Dogg, you have to do that in a Snoop Dogg movie. Snoop Dogg, he turned into a Doberman in the in his most famous what's my name music video, which was actually better use of special effects than bones.

It was about 10 years prior and I me and I'm actually a big Snoop Dogg, the music musician fan from you know, look, he hasn't I I don't know what he I think he makes like weird like youth football rap now like because he's like 57. I have no idea how old he is, but he I used to, I'm like big West Coast rap guy. There will be another rapper that I praise before this is all done. But he he, I do think he works in a lot of stuff.

I was like, man, this is such a bad use of him though, because he's he's not funny at all. Like it's just, it's not funny. The the 70s, like the 70s look that they give Pam Grier is funny because you obviously have a template already to work with to be like, Oh yeah, Pam Grier from the 70s. You could just literally dress her up like that. They're like, no, let's make it like look like we went to Spirit the Halloween store and put like a a weird Afro on her and, and

stuff. It's out of control, man. I don't know what the budget was, but surely they had enough costume money for something like that. Yeah, I think with Bones you can just point to the script being the real problem here, because you do have somebody who's talented behind the camera and you've got Pam Grier. That should have been enough. And you have Snoop Dogg, who was being charismatic during that time period. It should have been enough to sell the movie, but I don't know

something. It just didn't work. Yeah, the Movie. The movie cost 16,000,000. Wow, that's a lot of money back. Then yeah, especially 2001, that's a lot. Of made half of that, but how many, OK, how many on the bootleg market did it make? Yeah. The guy filming the camera in the theater, that's they probably that's the you made a kill. That's the problem when you make a hood classic 'cause. You do not get, you do. Not get any revenue from that. So that's that's kind of rough.

Redbox put like DVDs right on the street. Redbox kind of monetized that market a little bit. It kind of probably took that out. I don't know. I don't. I don't see those being sold anymore. What do they have now that Redbox is dead? Is that right? Is red box dead? Yeah, they went out, they went bankrupt. And the the red box that's right by my mom's place that I would typically frequent. Yeah, completely. They left it there, but it's it's done. It's done though. How's it been, Bulger?

Has it been, like, open? Yeah. Somebody tried to rob it? No. Yeah, I wish it was full of movies. I'd also like to to point out that this is a poor use of Clifton Powell as well. Clifton Powell is a good actor and he's in like a lot of these type of movies, but he's usually pretty good. Typically like a police chief guy or a pimp, you know what I mean? He could do either one, but they just make him into a square like Chappelle, black white guy type thing.

And and he I don't, I guess he's like feeling evil. I know for a while there's like somewhat of A twist. I still don't quite get what it was, but he was just like, I don't like being in the hood anymore. And they're like fucking evil. This guy's fucking evil. He's raising a family and stuff. But he I guess he was the one that got rid of Jimmy Bones, who apparently was a good guy. Apparently he's a good guy. I don't know. I don't think well. Pimps are upstanding members of

society, we all know that. It is true. I mean, yeah, it is true. The real pimp is capitalism. And you know, that's. Yeah, exactly. What's happening to see fucking ginger snaps pop up in here though That was that was cool. What's her name? Catherine. Isabel How? Was. That the Y girl yeah, you know, familiar with she's from Ginger series she's. I don't, I don't know anything about her.

Ginger Snaps is a series of Canadian vampire movies about this girl that becomes a vampire and then her. Still a werewolf movie God. Sy Sy would love that, then he loves. Oh, are there werewolves? No, they're. Or is it werewolves? I'm like 90% sure it's werewolves, those movies. You are correct, it is well that. Good. Yeah, it is. Well, no, they're bad, they're bad movies, but but they're in

like the horror sphere. I guess they're revered 'cause it's like monster movie about with starring girls in like their early 2000s. But they're not good. I just like, I just know her from that 'cause when I was leaving in Canada, they would play them late, those movies and they're, you know, horror movies from the 2000s, everything that you would expect that. But then they're also with the blandness of Canadian cinema, where you can't really push

boundaries that much. So a Canadian guy watching the 1st 15 minutes of Bones, I have to have her. Yeah, have her in my movie. Yeah, yeah. You know, this is the girl. And so, yeah, next one,

Crooklyn (1994)

technically, I don't know which order to go into. You'd have to go by month here because I think they're both 1994. Oh really? Wow. I. Think so. I mean above the rim I think is 1994. But I'll do Crooklyn first. Hadn't seen this. I am a Spike Lee apologist to an extent, though I've realized how much I haven't seen any of his, any of his Japanese stuff. Like any of his. I know he's making a new one. He's making a new Japanese movie. Yeah, what?

He's doing a remake of High, High and Low with Denzel Washington as a music executive in New York City or something like that. Yeah, I, yeah, I don't know. I don't really have a lot of interest in it though. I'm sure you guys will do an episode on it so. Oh yeah, I'm definitely going to be going. I can't believe Denzel went back.

I mean, I can't believe it, but I just, I can't believe that that he would go back and work with Spike after how many horrible movies Spike has put out in the last 15 years. I think there's a reason why he's avoided him, but he didn't have. Denzel because he didn't have Denzel. It could be that. It could literally be as simple as that. Well, if Denzel cared that much, he wouldn't do Gladiator 2 right. Yeah. Is Denzel acting a little bit like I feel like he's hurting

for money a little bit. I don't know. When we start seeing Denzel act with Travolta, then we'll know for certain. Bones 2 starring. Travolta. The bone is different. The bone is something he sucks on. Snoop Dogg won't do that 'cause he's making Candy Crush commercials and it didn't work with the schedule. But the Anyways, the Yeah, Crooklyn is good. I think it's kind of like a Woody Allen movie.

Like like a black Woody Allen movie is kind of how I or like a like a Ron Howard like Woody Allen Y kind. Of that's that's actually, I think that's a great way to put it. You're you're you're on to something there that I hadn't observed but I think in retrospect is so obvious. Yeah, Spike Lee's kind of doing. He's not doing a direct biopic, but it's based on the life of him and his siblings living and growing up in Brooklyn with his family. Because I believe his father was

a musician. And, you know, there's, there's a whole back story there. And it's. Tall kid, right? The tall kid with glasses is his insert character. Probably the one who likes the Knicks. There you go. That's going to be the one. Because that's why I was like, yeah, which I that kid did nothing wrong. By the way, the fucking Knicks are in the finals. They've won one, by the way. They've won one. And it was that one. So we never saw it again.

And and guess what? We had Spike Lee fucking sitting courtside watching losses for the rest of his life as a Knicks fan. But yeah, that, that was a it's a good movie. I I thought, I think it's interesting. I don't, I don't know that it's a hood classic though. I think it's like, I think it might be a tier like I think this is like something that could be like brought in like colleges and stuff, you know what I mean? And it's a little more hood. I think there's not enough hood, I mean.

We kind of it's the hood element, it's spike, but it paint. But it it kind of looses the hood for me when they go to what is it Michigan. Well I love that part though with the old stuffy old lady dollhouse that. They yes, where you have the the lead character going to live with her aunt and uncle, who are pretty well to do yeah and then they accidentally suffocate her beloved dog where she's. Where she's reminded constantly that she has no titties yet as occasion about 3 or 4 different

times. That girl ain't nothing under that shirt. Troy Right is the name of the. Girl Troy, yeah, which is, I think in my opinion, in my rap nerd brain, I think it's a reference to They Reminisce Over You, the Pete Rock and CL smooth song that was playing all through NBA Street all the time. But I would I because why else would a girl be named Troy? It's weird, but yeah, there was it's good though. It's good cast.

Alfrey Woodard, Delroy Lindo, David Patrick Kelly as the gay, weird gay musical composer neighbor. I think that's is. That Warriors guy. Yeah, and Twin Peaks and Twin Peaks. Jerry Horn from Twin Peaks. But yes, he was. He's he's in that movie at his and he's the he. I do like that there's a movie that the smelliest guy in the neighborhood is the one white guy. Yeah, it's gross. Yeah, that's how. Yeah, his house stinks. And his house, his house is

smelling up the neighborhood. And he's a gay musical composer. There's another glasses like wet bubbles from trailer. Park Boys, Yeah. Yeah, right. Right. That's true. Yeah, He has that, and that's a classic. The hood movie trope is like the the either you have the Fred Willard, like will you turn it down in there and they throw him in like a dumpster. They have that kind of thing. Or they have the like, really quirky white guy with like, look at my lizards, man. Yeah.

Like, weirdly, the weird creep. Horny, Yeah. Yeah, and it's like his parents are like, it's like incestual like and stuff, which I think is funny. I, I don't know, like it's people are too tense nowadays, like racially. It's a stereotype that's not easy. Yeah, it's funny. You're allowed to do that. Like it's I, I want, I want the world to be like this again, where you can paint me as this, I can paint you as that. And guess what? Everyone goes home and it's fine.

Yeah, let's have fun with our side characters. There's, they don't have to all be, you know, basic and PCs and you can make them interesting and that adds a lot to your movie, even if they're on screen for a minute or two. Yeah, it's like RuPaul who plays Bodega Woman. Does that happen Laura's when you go to the bodegas? We see RuPaul all the time. Dancing with a small Puerto Rican man, Yeah. It's more common than you think. Yeah, because that's, I mean, that was basically drag queen

story hour. What was happening in the daily, The Daily Wire? Matt Walsh might come in, dude, and just just tear that whole place up. Like if you send him that clip, he'd be like, look what they're doing in New York. In 94, yeah. Look what? Look what's happening from the five. To the 6:00 we'd be in the

making paid job. Yeah. So, yeah, it's, it's kind of it's kind of interesting because I, I thought the like in Crooklyn, the the, the framing of the movie or the concept of the movie basically is you have this fan, this family who I'll, I'll say they got a nicer apartment than me, even though they and they run the building,

I think like they run. They run before Sorry, I I just want to bring something up that I wanted to mention on the 50 Cent movie 1 When I was in Canada, I, I had a roommate and we were going to move out of the apartment and he was like, oh, we found a house. I, I got another friend. We found a house. Your bedroom, it's in the basement, but it's the biggest bedroom of the whatever. And I was like, fine, I don't have to go see it. I was dating this girl all the time.

So I was like, I'm going to go to her house. I trust you, right? Huge mistake. I'm 62 and when I got to that basement, I couldn't stand up in that basement because it was too low. And my bedroom had I can only describe the Gray color walls as like prison. Right. So when $0.50 complained about his room that they gave him, I was like, that fucking basement room is better than one I had. He's like, that's not so bad. It's like Brooklyn apartment. You're next to the laundry. Yeah.

Brooklyn apartment. Even without electricity I've like. I've been in way worse apartments than that. Like, oh, yeah, no, they got it made. They're they're all set for a family in Brooklyn, especially during that period. Also, by the way, my apologies here for some reason, I don't know why that's never happened before that my audio just cut out only for stream yards. There's like a curse on these

hood classic films. The platform has this platform has taken kind of a shit in the last two months. I don't know what it is, but it's been having, I don't know, it's like weird. If you remember when we recorded volume 1 for for movies, the audio, the only time it's ever happened in the history of us doing like 5-6 seven years of podcasting, the audio got mangled and was just jarbled and was I, I had to like get into like the cloud and figure out

okay, what can I recover here? And then I was able to put out like almost all of it minus like 12 minutes where we talked about some movie that. That's where Han said the N word like 3 times. So luckily, luckily it was I think stream yard or or zoom or whatever. You guys wait, you guys. You guys use Zoom though. Yeah, we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so all the N words, all the N words go out and editing.

So yeah. Because I remember thinking like, should I be associated with that one? Now we don't have to worry about it, but. That's why Loras is the one that makes money here, not me. Because he, you know, he does all the work editing all those N words out. Yeah, you're like, you're like Sam Hyde's like the smoke detector guy.

Yeah, but he but I love the I love the the opening or cannot the opening seem like the opening sequence of just the camera following them up and down the steps and the kids being little shitheads. And the, the dynamic between the parents is really nice too. Just the the dad who just brings home ice cream, but like nothing else, but is way cooler and the

kid. And it's extra frustrating for the mom because the moms like I actually like make sure this house actually survives And and I I think they do a really good job. I always forget just how good Spike Lee is because I think in my opinion, the greatest one of the greatest sports movies of all time is is he got game. I think that's the only like a like a perfect film for I was. Like this close to picking it until I mean. I've already covered, we've covered it.

We I've covered it on the back wall with filthy Armenian. Alright? I mean, I could talk about it a million times, but like I love there's like people hate on that movie, like they they think it's they don't like the they don't like the like Sprite commercial look of it. But it's like you guys realize that Sprite commercial started looking like this after he got gained by.

The way yeah, Spike Lee innovative that stuff with his advertisements for Nike and all these other commercials that he was he he did that that was he's. The man he was the man. I know he's like, you know, cringe now, but I I think like, I like the Malcolm X movie. I like, I like what what's he has another another really good

one. I mean, I like I said, I was telling Hans do the right thing is like, I think overrated to me. But it's I don't know, I guess it's a classic or something, but I like this. This is right up there though. I thought Crooklyn was right up there. It's really sad. I mean, it's really sad. I was like, wow, I wasn't ready for that. Like, that was scary, you know, because Alfre Woodard, who I remembered when I was a kid, was on Desperate Housewives. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

right. She was one of the she was the token black desperate housewife. She was like an investigator, wasn't she like, like kind of an investigator? Like she was like, something's happening. These white people are these white women are going crazy. What wasn't I've I never watched Desperate Housewives but I remember some friend of mine did. He was obsessed with Desperate Housewives and there was some plot where somebody was being kept in a basement or something.

Oh, yeah, no, it was wild. It was. They tried to make it like a soap opera, like a prestige soap opera. So it had a lot of like absurd things happening in it, but it was just like a bunch of Milfs. So it was like, you're I'm 13, like I'm just like, this is awesome. Like we can watch this on TV. And it was and it was that. And then lost was on on Wednesdays and it was like, wow, ABC like ran everything for a while. And then the Bachelor was just

getting started. So it was just kind of, it was kind of a, a crazy time. And yeah, ABC was the place to be it. Was unreal. So you. Yeah, it was, Yeah. I think a few more things about Crooklyn. Yeah. I love, I love the because you don't know where it's going for a while. You're like, what's going to happen? Like somebody's going to get shot. Like something's going to have to happen for the, because it

sounds kind of nice. Like everybody sings Doo wop on the on the stoop and gets water poured on them. And it's kind of these Looney Tunes gags they do on each other. I'm like, but what happens? And it's definitely not what I thought. And after a while, you don't realize that the main character is the girl. I think it's actually a good trick Spike Lee does because you're like, wait, who does this center around? And then it's the girl you're like, whoa, played by. Zelda Harris Yeah.

There's kind of a disorganized nature to it where you're just focusing on the family and you're jumping into these vignettes of moments from childhood and everything else that happens to be going on in that household. And it feels like a collection of memories that were put together into, like, a very moderately narrative film. And then, yeah, we do wind up taking a turn about midway through where it's like, OK, this is actually going to be our lead character as we close out the movie.

And here's how the family changes by the end of it. Or comes together while losing its central figurehead. Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's wild. And like I said, there's that kid who wants to watch. All he wants to do is watch his Knicks and Spike Lee there. He had a famous feud with Reggie Miller in the 90s during when the Knicks were on their run. He was Reggie Miller did the

classic choke thing to him. So that's a fun, that's a fun night a lot of people don't like, you know, if you don't know like know anything about basketball or like just New York pop culture in the 90s, that that probably goes over your head and you're like, oh, he's just a Knicks fan. But that that and he's kind of a nerdy looking kid with glasses. And I like, I, I thought all the child actors were really good.

Like like like really good. I was like, wow, this is like, I don't know these kids from any other movies. And like I said, I I've watched a lot of certified hood classics. You think I would? Yeah, he blamed Spike Lee for a lot of those losses, right. He was like, it's you. It was you that taunted. I mean, like, he was. He was, yeah. I mean, I, hey, I mean, there's a great ESPN 30 for 30 about the whole thing. It was pretty cool.

I was the Nixon Pacers series back when like basketball was actually cool like it was. Now it's just like, I mean, Speaking of, I mean, is there anything else on Crooklyn? I feel like I'm missing something. Is there anything? Oh yeah, I want. I have one complaint that really took me out of the movie and and bothered me because I was like am I drugged right now or did the aspect ratio change for no reason and everything became stretchy when they moved? What?

Yeah, no, mine did that too. I was like is this, is that a, is this a Spike Lee thing or is this just the copy I have? Or like is this just the Amazon Prime? Rental when she moves to the the secondary family home, the roaming. The roaming Polanski like fisheye lens. Thing here's what happened and I don't know why nobody has corrected it.

It has since been corrected for the Blu-ray release that was recently put out by Kino Lorber. But when they did the VHS for the first time, that's, you know, you would do a pan and scan type thing and then the aspect ratio would sometimes get fucked. That's what happens then. And I think what happened for the subsequent like streaming releases was, was OK, well, we've got the, the print of the movie that we use for the VHS. Let's just pull that and then we'll throw that up on streaming.

So that's what they did. And then I guess that's what you guys wound up watching here because I know exactly what you're talking about. It happened on my Crooklyn videotape and that's the only thing that would maybe makes sense of doing that. That was weird, yeah. Because I was thinking like I, I like exited out of my rental on like my PlayStation and I was like, let me just let me just like click back on it. Something might have happened,

you know, And then I was. Like, is this a choice to divide both worlds? Is that Spike Lee you did here? That's an odd choice. I was I was thinking I'd do like a rap music video of like your mom yelling at you in your. Bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. You're like, you're like fucked up waking up in the morning, kind of like. But then it's, but then it stays. It's not like a couple of minutes. Then it's just like the rest of it. And it's just like, oh, wait, that's not.

I don't think that was a purpose, Yeah. Definitely, Yeah, it was. Yeah. No good movie. I liked it. I liked it. I well, I guess you had asked me what makes it not a A. Certified. I did. I didn't want to ask again in case you. Explained what I did, but it's just I just I think it's too good. I don't know, like it's just it's too much of a good regular

movie. Like, I don't, I don't think it's audience is really I I'm sure a lot of black people watched it back then, but like, I don't think that that was like a institutional black family movie that like was in every black person's house. You know what I mean? That like white people go, what the fuck is this? You know, like, like it's, it's, it's just too much like universal, like, like, you know, appeal, I think. Yeah, No, that's it. That's actually a very good

point. I think Spike Lee is kind of a bridge between those two types of viewers there. And you would not find this movie exclusively in that black household. So no, that that's actually a very good point. Yeah. It, it kind of feels like a like an episode of Everybody Hates Chris without the comedy, without like the obvious jokes that that show would make where it's, it's just, it feels very

family friendly somehow. Like, like it feels like a movie that anyone could watch and it's safe for anyone, you know? So I think that's why it wouldn't qualify. Yeah. It's missing Terry Crews. It's missing Terry Crews is what. It's yeah, yeah, it's missing, like you said, it's missing the threat of rape some or something, you know, something horrible. Well, because I was like, all right, somebody's going to get shot, somebody's going to get

stabbed. I was thinking like Delroy Lindo was going to get in, like get arrested, you know, something that was going to really put the family in a in a bad spot. Wish To be fair, something does happen, but it's just much more in the realm of like any family's possibility, I guess, where, you know, I was just. But again, I think it works really well. I like the scene at the end. It's sad. I teared up a little bit with Alfred Woodard on the porch step, You know, I mean, I was

like, I like that. It's an interesting ending, though. It's kind of like, not exactly. It's like a a bit too artsy, the ending I think like compared to what you'd see in a lot of these other films. Where like you kind of. Yeah, you kind of have to have like $0.50 like and get rich or die trying where $0.50 like I'm not going to kill you. My friend's going to kill you.

And then yeah. And then Adam, Adam BC slash the guy from the mummy, he gets shot and like, like that is a lot of the ways how this movie, these movies have to end typically like, you know, the just, it just feels like that's they have to be triumphant. They're kind of like action films in a way. Like, like. Yeah, removing the the bulletproof vest because I'm not

afraid anymore. Fuck. That dude caught me in the face anyways that was the worst part was they caught me in the jaw so it doesn't even work. I'm going to take my shirt off so you see all the holes that I have in my torso. Hell. Yeah, well, I have to go to, in my opinion, V certified good

Above The Rim (1994)

classic, apparently. Apparently I'm alone here, but the the film above the rim, the basketball movie where everybody in this neighborhood can dunk and jam and everybody's good at basketball. Everybody's like unreal good at basketball in this neighborhood, which is literally fake news by the way. There's like usually like 3 or 4 basketball players and then like really bad basketball players that like still play every day. But anyways, this is above the rim. This is directed.

Was it something Jeff Pollack? Is that the guy's name? He just, he died suddenly. By the way, I don't know if anybody knows this. He just died while he was out for a run and nobody knows why. And his body was just left there for a long time, just happened. He also is one of the many people that created or at least produced Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Yeah. So he's got he's actually got his like, he's a guy.

He he that this there's a lot of like silly Fresh Prince moments in this movie that almost don't really work. But they are that they do in in a way, especially the Marlon Wayne's character. But it stars Dwayne Martin. I don't know if you guys know about Dwayne Martin. Dwayne Martin's got some crazy stuff happening.

If you go to like like black YouTube, like black celebrities exposed kind of thing where they'll be like these women who have like YouTube channels where they'll be like, I'm going to give you the T on Dwayne Martin when he married Tisha Campbell, who is from Martin the Love and Regina from Martin and they had like a 27 year marriage that ended and the whole time, literally the whole time, there's just rumors that he's gay the entire time, like and gay with Will Smith, by the way.

I was gonna say I feel like the same thing was said about Will Smith and it always seems to be a recurring bit of oh, and then they caught them cheating with him on a man. Yeah, well, I mean again. And then you figure Jada Pinkett, right? Jada Pinkett? Who is the wife? Who does she fantasize about fucking all the time? Tupac Shakur, who is in the movie? Who is the opposite of what Will Smith is? Well, he's a. Theater. He's a theater kid, so.

OK. Yeah, Tupac, Tupac, Tupac did method acting of of gangster rap like where he like straight up became a guy who just shoots out of a car randomly. Because was he a poet or something? Well, his mom was like a Black Panther, like scholar, kind of like college educated person. His mom was Asada Shakur and and then he grew up going to like ballet school and stuff. And like, I think, I think he's from Baltimore originally.

I could be wrong there. But then and then New York is where he started making his initial, you know, first rap stuff. I'm a like a pretty big fan. It's funny when I go on Twitter and like, you'll go and you'll hear like new rappers. Like I don't listen to Tupac. I don't know what that it'll be like a little yachty or something and be like, that's not what I listen to.

I don't like it, but then if you go to like in the Bay Area where he's massive, especially in like Oakland and San Francisco, he there's people with like shrines to him still like it's he's just he's that big out here. And I've always really liked him. But Dwayne Martin, though I will say that there was the woman who did the expose on him did a wonderful job and she had it was it had 980,000 views this video that she had and she was selling beef jerky in between like every

every 5 minutes. And she was like, click here for the snacks. I've got beef jerky, popcorn, whatever you want. And, and it but it was really good. And she would add her own commentary and stuff like like Tisha Campbell was like Dwayne. It was a big messy thing where like they ran out of money, but Dwayne Martin was still making like 75,000 a month somehow.

And this is in like 2012. And and then he would go on these mysterious trips with like guys to Turks and Caicos and just not invite their wives and stuff. And, and, and she would be in the background. She'd be like, you know, he gay like in the background. It's a really good video. I learned a lot. But that being said, there's like many moments of people talking about Dwayne Martin and and Will Smith.

Will Smith bought him like a Bentley randomly during The Fresh Prince era, which is like that's probably not when Will Smith had that much money. I know he was a rapper that had some you know, but he wasn't. I doubt he made that much money off rap. Not enough to buy a random guy a Bentley is what I mean. A random guy, yeah. Your boyfriend, though? Yeah. Like your mom, Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So that's what and and and that's what this YouTube was saying.

It's like, you know, that's that raises a red flag when he buys his best friend to Bentley. Like it's really funny, but yeah, I love above the rim. I don't know, apparently. Apparently I'm wrong here. What? Let me hear you guys thoughts. Well, I I enjoyed Above the Rim, to be clear, but about midway through my viewing I got a message from Hans that was like. Oh boy. So I'm very curious to hear what what. The basketball fan Hans does not.

Like this movie, I think because I'm a basketball fan. I hate it every time they showed basketball. I think he has the ugliest jump shoot I've ever seen. He's played. He played college basketball too, which is crazy, right 'cause he the little. Dad he does the little girl jump he does with his that kicks his legs out bother me so much throughout the movie. I just, I don't think I had an issue with Dwayne Martin and Leon being the most boring characters.

And there was there was too much charisma from the side characters. So when you get to Leon and he just has the same fucking face throughout the whole movie and he just kind of like. Well, you know, I I don't know if I considered them boring, but I'll tell you what, there is a recurring trend with these hood movies. Specifically I'm thinking Cuba Good Junior and Boyz N the Hood.

Then also the lead actor in Menace to Society, they are overshadowed by the supporting cast because of that exact reason of, OK, you have somebody who's much more charismatic is like the breakout character and you don't really think about their character when reflecting on the movie. It's almost like you're watching How I Met Your Mother or any sitcom where that lead character is just not going to pop the same way. And Tupac in this movie I

thought was like the stand out. I thought anytime he's on screen, he's got terrific screen presence. Of course, Bernie Mac is terrific. He's terrific in everything you know, so you can't go wrong there. And then Marlon Wayans a lot of a lot of gay jokes and behavior from Marlon vomiting on Tina's size. That's the way where he's pissing and he's like, I didn't know you was uncircumcised. Yeah, and but it goes on for like 3 minutes where he's just commenting and observing this man's Dick.

Yeah, no, Marl. And I will say Marlon Wayne, I love Marlon Wayne is so good. He's just like man. He's just, he's perfect for these films. Yeah, too. I agree. Tupac's great in this. Did you ever see that movie, I can't remember what it's called, that he did with Jim Belushi. Oh, it's a Tupac movie. It was like a crime, like kind of like a a blue streak kind of tier movie, like where it was white cop, black cop. It's called gang related. Yeah, it's a good movie. I liked it.

I mean, haven't seen it in years, but I, I used to. I watched like all the Tupac movies. I'll tell you, the overrated 1 is Juice. Everybody thinks Juice is good. I don't like Juice. It's not a good movie. It's it's like really bad actually, and I think this is actually a much better. I I agree with you, though. Tupac's not exactly a star at this point, though. That's what needs to be pointed out is he is this is not getting all eyes on me just before his

death. 1996 Tupac in a movie. This is up kind of up and coming. He's he had dropped Tupac Elyse now, and I think he had dropped me against the world, which is one of his best albums around that time. But he's kind of just, you know, I don't know. He wasn't like charting the way, you know, 2 Live Crew and all these other people were at the time or, or, you know, Black Street or a lot of these artists were doing at the time. And rap was still like, is this commercial?

Is this actually selling? But but yeah, Tupac is, is a real, I mean, he doesn't really do a lot. He also gets shot in the movie, which is kind of interesting. It's I completely agree on juice, same director as bones juice. But I was going to say the best Tupac movie. Nothing but trouble. That's a good movie. Yeah, that's a good movie. I haven't seen it in years, but I remember like I liked, I

really was like, damn. I think he would have gone the route of only being an actor after a while because people would always. There was like a big kind of like Facebook meme thing be like, man, I wish Tupac was around to school. These young rappers, like old heads would post that on Facebook in like 2008. And now I'm like, no, he would have been doing like movies like only he would have been like. He would have went the ice cube

route. Or like common, you know what I mean, which common sucks at acting, but, you know, just he would have done that thing where he's like, I don't, I just wear like turtlenecks now. And I'm, I act, you know, like that's, that's what he would have done after a while. And yeah, like Ice Cube. And I think he would have been damn good. I think he would have aged into a really, really good actor. I think he would have done like a weird like, like roll like like like a weird role like

that. You wouldn't expect them like a like, you know, like an Oscar and bait role. Like when 50 got eights for a movie. That's right. That's. Right. A movie nobody saw. What was that movie? I don't. Remember I. Had their profile picture of that for a while like that. He saw Christian Bale do the Machinist and was like, that's how we do it. It's called All. It's called All Things Fall Apart. Wow, that name does not. Yeah, including. That including your white blood

cell count, yeah. Mario von Peebles directed it. Wow, that's. Great has Ray Liotta's. I was gonna say, was that one of his Val Kilmer 'cause he did like a series of Val Kilmer team up movies? And Ray Liotta still has movies coming out. I just saw he a Snoop Dogg movie. The Snoop Dogg produced a movie that I don't. It must have been filmed in like 2020 or something or 2019. There was a movie with Ray Liotta I just saw a trailer for when I went and saw Fright Flight Risk.

Which version of his face is in that movie? I don't know. I was like, dude, this guy died of Chantix not that long ago, but like and the so I yeah, I love the soundtrack of this movie too. That's a really big selling point because if these movies aren't good, which I I think this movie is, but if these movies aren't good and you like rap, especially, particularly 90s rap, it just becomes a big music video, typically with like or like basketball highlight video.

By the way, Bernie Mac not bad. Not a bad basketball player. I was watching. I was like, whoa, Max got a little moves because they were laughing at him. I'm like, yeah, but this was better than Dwayne Martin, so, but whatever. But I know the idea was that they were really good basketball players. But Tupac has some really good songs on the album, including The Pain, which is like the intro to the movie and then pour out a little liquor, which is at the end when the guy the

shooting happens. Also a big meme came from this movie, which is Wood Harris, who I love. Wood Harris is is great. Wood Harris had had pulling the gun out. That's a big meme on like Black. Huge the huge bag and a tiny gun. Well, people, they'll use it. They'll use it for NBA memes, like where it'll be like when, you know, Jalen Rose when Kobe had 78 points on him instead and was about to get to 82. And it'll be like Wood Harris pulling the gun out, you know?

And it's it's really good, which is an insane scene. Like, we were like, holy shit, I didn't know this was going there. And that was back before college athletes could get paid. So it was a big deal that, like, Tupac gave Dwayne Martin a bunch of money or let him let him make money. Yeah. Lot of lot of lot of really good. Oh, by the way, I have a bone to.

I think Leon's great. I love Leon one name like Ichiro and he and he he's but it's crazy if you look at his filmography, he's a music biopic guy. He was in the 1998 Temptations miniseries, which I love. I've watched all the time when it was on VH1. He played David, he played David Ruffin. He played Little Richard in a movie which apparently it's AG rated Little Richard movie so probably some of the. How does that work? Yeah, probably. Some of the biggest Little Richard moments.

And I might, I might $100 tier that one for movies. The the only man ever, the only man to ever be arrested for being a cuck. Little Richard. Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm like, what's in the movie like. Yes, he he was arrested for for watching his girlfriend get banged out in a car back in 1950 something. He's gay. Yeah, because. He's yeah, yeah. He's just like, whatever, you can do that. He's even Liberace. He's. Even that he's that gay. He's as straight as they come.

He hated gays at the end of his life. Yeah. Because they gave him AIDS. Didn't you see every interview that they would have? I'd be mad. The interviews that would have with him in like Liberace in like the 60s or whatever, whatever, and then be like women. That's just so many women out there for you. It's. Just two Bros talking and then the two alphas and yeah beyond. The I mean, let's be fair Liberace, he is I I will give him the alpha thing.

He turned his boyfriend into whatever he want into. Him himself. He stoked his boyfriend into himself. Yeah, he he was. He had sex with Matt Damon a bunch of times as my yeah. That's yeah, that's pretty pretty. Bad Best Soderbergh movie in my. I love that movie. The Beyond the Candelabra is great. I told my Co worker about it and he was a black guy and I was like, yeah, and it's just Michael Douglas getting his ass pounded in the movie and he's like why?

I want to see that. I'm like, why wouldn't you want to see that? It's a great fucking concept because he's like, this is great. And he's like, and but yeah, that's gay Michael Douglas. It's literally come down. It's literally a come. Down like what's? Happening gay actor Michael Douglas. Yeah, it's literally what happens in the day. He didn't respond well to that, but that was. Yeah, that.

But Leon is also in a movie that I'm covering pretty soon here, a cliffhanger starring Sylvester Stallone. Leon is in that movie and he's you want to talk about if you think he doesn't have, if he's boring, he's one thing he's not in that movie is boring. He walks around, they get he's the only guy that they give an Uzi and this is a Denver Co, Denver, Co snow mountain movie. There's a black guy and he's come, he's bundled up the most out of everybody, which is

really fun. And and he's like he's got an Uzi. Everybody else has got these sick like military grade, like Michael Mann, heat guns and then he's got like the the drive by Uzi, which is great. It's just a sideways. Yeah. So, yeah. But I, I used to love, I used to love seeing Leon in in movies. And I, I don't know if that was really him playing ball, but he could play in in above the rim. He he had some moves. He was playing without the ball because that's important. Is he?

Is he one of the main guys from Cool Runnings? He is in cool runnings, yes. He looks familiar. I think he's doing a lot of Toby original stuff now. I looked at his IMDb and there's a lot of stuff in like 20. There's a lot of like BMF shows, that BMF Gang show that's like happening about the the BMF Black mob. Yeah, yeah, he's in. There's like 15 of those shows and he's in all of them I think, or something so.

Yeah, that was BET Plus is the. Yeah, his his latest film credit is First Lady of BMF, The Tanessa Welch Story and that is yes for BET Plus. Who could forget Tanessa Welch? But yeah, the yeah, I, I don't know. I, I'm a, I'm an above the rim. I'm an above the rim fan. I I love Wood Harris because I just watched Southland Tales the other day and he's in randomly in Southland Tales married to Amy Poehler and they're radical communists.

That's that happened. And but yeah, I. After the wire, that's where you cast them on. That's that's an odd choice. Such a sick name too. It's such like a like like cuz there was, there was like those. Another genre that maybe we should explore is black romantic comedies cuz those are great too. I don't know if you've seen any of those like All about Eve and or All About Eva. All about Eva. It's a play on All About Eve. What's the Jamie Foxx with Pam Grier one? That one's I know.

Tommy Robinson is in it. That one Tommy Robinson. Yeah. No, no. Tommy Robinson. Tommy Davidson. Yeah, I know what I was talking about. It's where they're they spend an hour trying to buy lambskin. Booty call. Yeah, booty call. Booty. Call. From the director of Above the Rim, I believe. Oh, is it? I think so. Jeff Pollock was tapped into the hood, man, I'll tell you.

And but you know, I mean like more like 2003, like the cover of these romantic comedies would be like the, the, the 2003 and it'll be like a rose with like Morris Chestnut holding a rose on the front of it. But it would be really silly. They're they're really silly. They're very funny. My wife and I went on a binge on some of these that are really good and they always have Gabrielle Union and she's really mean in all of them. Totally not true in real life,

I'm sure. But the But yeah, you had guys like named Wood Harris and Morris Chestnut and they're not doing porn, I don't think. Maybe. Another time I I've watched a few of these on on to be probably of like how Stella got her groove back love and basketball. You know, there's a there's one that's waiting to exhale, waiting to exhale. That was a good one, that. One don't, don't, don't. What is it? Don't cheat if you ain't praying. That's Whitney Houston, right?

Don't touch if you ain't praying too with Kel Mitchell, did you say don't shit if you ain't praying? No, I said don't. I don't even know what I said. Yeah. No, that's a certified hood class. Yeah, maybe not a classic. It's just Hood. Yeah, it's. Just certified. This is what it is. Just certified. But yeah, I love, yeah. I'm above the Rims. My my winner. I think of this, I, I like it slightly more than Crooklyn because I like that itself, because I'll pit it against get

rich or die trying. Above the Rim knows exactly what it is. It's almost a tight 90 minutes. I think it's like an hour and 36 minutes or something. It's it's right. It's it's right where it needs to be. There's a little Comic Relief. I think it has. If you were making a cauldron of the certified hood classics, you put every ingredient in that's in there and it's again, it's it can't be too good. That's the thing. Like you can't be too good because then you're Crooklyn. That's too good.

You know, like that that could be shown at film school, you know, like this is all these things. This is like cheap kind of even though I'm sure there was a decent budget for it to be honest, because this dude had just created a smash hit TV show. I don't know if he created The Fresh Prince, but I think it was him and Will Smith. Basically Jeff Pollack created Fresh Prince so they I think they gave this dude a shit ton

of money. Dwayne Martin had been on 2 episodes of of Fresh Prince and that was where him and Will Smith started becoming alpha male Bros together on the on the

Duane Martin and Will Smith Gay?

set of that and because because during that I keep coming back to that video I watched about Dwayne Martin. It was unreal. Is it? Is it exposing Dwayne Martin hot stanking mess because I pulled? Out. Yeah, yeah. By RRG it's called R. RGRR. G Yeah, she is fantastic. I want to be watching this. I believe that'll be on a certified good classics volume

three well. Because people, you know, the big thing that happened with Will Smith was like, Oh my God, this guy, he's of course he's going insane. His wife is like cooking him with like R&B singers that are, you know, 25 years old or something. It's like also he's maybe because he's gay. Yeah, I think it's a little rich. Situation. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's like, that's why it why did how did this go on for so long? And it was so out in the open.

And as I remember, Jada would have her daughter, I think it was Willow Smith would be writing love letters to like, Tupac or not love letters. But like, we miss you, Tupac. And she doesn't know Tupac. She was like born after he died. And so, like, all these things would happen.

So, you know, I mean, you, you think of an alternate universe where Will Smith is just openly gay and then Jada Pinkett and and Jada Pinkett marries Tupac, and then he's never not hanging out in Las Vegas that fateful night at Caesar's Palace, and he doesn't die. He has Will Smith's career instead. Yeah. Oh, he does Bad boys with Martin Lawrence.

That would be crazy. But yeah, well, well, that whole video, that whole video, though, was Tisha Campbell, who it was kind of a this lady did a really good job of talking about like what was happening on the set of Martin versus Will Smith and Dwayne Martin's stuff. I guess Martin Lawrence was just getting me too to everyday on the set of Martin, like all day. They were like, she was like to the point where she went to the to to the writer. Tisha Campbell was like, can you

stop filming us in bed together? And they're like, well, you're like a couple in the show. And she's like, yeah, but he keeps like, he keeps like, like, he's like, he's like raping me in bed. Maybe is Martin Lawrence just pulling his Dick out while I work? Back I don't know how much. He's getting actually naked under the covers. Yeah, I know.

And if you know anybody who loves that show and I've watched, I've watched it here and there, never like from the beginning to the end or anything, but I've watched it here and there. It's quite funny. But the if you know it, you're like, wow, they look like so good together. You know, like they'll totally seem like they'd be like married in real life, her and Martin Lawrence and the whole time she was with Dwayne Martin.

But then also, if you're Dwayne Martin, wouldn't you go to like Martin Lawrence and be like, hey, man, I don't, I don't like what you do in my life unless you're gay? Unless you're like, someone has to do it. Yeah, I'll do the I'll do the scenes. I'll do the scenes in bed with Martin Lawrence instead. Of yeah when you when you asked Loras earlier if he grew up like watching these movies. I think my thing was more TV

show than movies. So for me it was more Wayans brothers, Jamie Foxx show and I think in living color were the ones that were just in the concert rotation growing up, which is why I have such a big appreciation for a young Marlon Wayans that I always find to be fun to watch. I'm not not sure about the later, but I I just feel like his energy and and his charisma when he's young is is is great. He's great on screen. So I was a big fan of him here.

Yeah, but that that was he's friends of that. Show. Yeah, exactly. And and then, like Tisha Campbell in that video says, she goes and then she left Martin and then she got another sweet gig on my wife and kids. I don't know if you guys ever watched that. Oh yeah, I watched that. That was. A good show. Too back in the ABC he was just crushing back then I forgot how. Like I forgot how insane ABC was. Like during that time. It was just it.

Was Damon right? That was Damon was my personal favorite Wayans. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean, he is great. I like I like almost all the Wayne's brothers man like Keenan Ivory I. Mean Keenan, you got to give Keenan Ivory credit for arranging the whole family really to become stars. Was there anything weird that happened with their family because I'm surprised there's no like Jackson's biography about the Wayne's brothers. Or were they just hyper normal?

I I don't know if they were hyper normal, but I haven't heard anything come out. I mean, there's enough of them where you would think somebody would steal something. You got to dude. But yeah, I think, well, guys, I

How to bring back the hood classic

mean, First off, this is such a fun trend. I mean, the ball's in your court now for movies. We got to pick more 'cause we got, we got to go through this whole genre, 'cause I wanted to come back. And I, and ironically, I think $0.50's the only person that could ever bring it back, to be honest. Like I think he actually like knows what these movies are and he has the money to just throw behind it to like who cares if

it makes any money? And as theaters are dying, like you could just make you could just literally I guess Tubi is technically the streaming service, but if there was like another like streaming service where it was just only this stuff, I bet you would sell out. And if it was just like $1.00 a month, $1.00 a month, but that's the only type of movie that was on there, I bet you'd work and I bet you would bring the genre

back. But we need to do a movie with Mike Epps in it. We haven't done anything with Mike Epps in it. Who is my favorite? Like literally one of my favorite comedians of all time. People were talking about the Bo Burnham special. I was like, I didn't watch any of that. I was watching Mike Epps talk about how his mom thought he was retarded until he was 10. And she was like, you was retarded when you was a kid. He's like, shut up, Mama. No, I wasn't like. She goes well, you don't.

You don't like the bed of oh, I dropped that because I was on purpose. I actually now you don't know if I dropped it on purpose or not. Was that on purpose or not? Fucking. You're right, That is funny. Actually, I do like that, yeah. I love when that just goes on for 10 minutes, isn't that? You don't get it, dude. It's ironic. It's it's four, it's 4 layers of irony you just don't get. Whereas Mike Epps just goes, my mom thought I was retarded and it's way funny.

Like I'm just like, you guys need to. Why? Because that was where I got a lot of my like I was listening to rap, but then I watched Kings of Comedy, the, the original kings of comedy cause Comedy Central was played late and you know, Steve Harvey's talking about killing kids in Afghanistan. Bernie Mac is like unreal, untouchably good.

Like in it. And then, and then I think it was, I think it was DL was one of them and Sedgwick the entertainer who were the, they were the two weaker ones, but they were still very good. And I, I just remember thinking like, damn, these dudes are funny as hell. And then I watched Mike Epps special a bunch of times. Like I had it on DVDI bought it from like a used record store for like $3 and and I watched it all the time. But we do need to cover a movie with Mike Epps.

I would guess all about the Benjamins. I love that movie when I. Was a kid. There you go. I don't know if you guys have seen that film. I feel like it wound up in my again, not to keep sighting Toby, but literally Toby rotation when I watch the Friday movies and then first Sunday. I feel like it eventually brought me to All about the Benjamins. So I think I have seen it. Yeah. If we, I mean, it's only a matter of we got to do Certified Hood Classics Volume 3.

The Players Club is going to be one of my selections absolutely because we. She was a big part of the Dwayne Martin saga. Lisa Ray was a big part of the Dwayne because her husband was rumored to be in Turks and Caicos with Dwayne Martin. There's a there's a whole like the me too, the the black me too's that I haven't heard any of these. So I'm like, I'm like, I like, yeah, the DL, the DL Hughley's, that's what they call it. And the cause. What was his show called?

DL Hughley? What was his? I think, Well he had a claymation show didn't he on UPN? Yeah. Or wasn't it just called the Hughleys? I think it was just called the Hughleys. Yeah, but anyways, like I was like the, the, the, the, the black Hollywood. Me too. I haven't heard any of these. I was like, these are incredible. I think they're all just gay outing stories really. Yeah, gay outing. And then just like a bunch of women, like group chatting each other. My husband's gay.

My husband's gay. And then? They all start a podcast about how their husband's gay. Yeah. Incredible stuff. Well, guys, yeah, I'll get this out as soon as possible. If you're in Italy, I don't, I haven't checked our analytics in Italy. There's got to be 1 of you. There's got to be 1 of you. And we need you guys to rise to the call and. Absolutely. Lottery Korea too, right? Wasn't.

There Yeah, we we we did the Seoul was the 1st place that it was premiered for the Seoul Extreme Film Festival. That was back in March. I think it was March 30th and yeah, Italy is Next up and then hopefully United States and that we I you know, I don't want to have to go rent a theater might it's actually it's pretty expensive no matter even for like dumpy little theaters is pretty. I heard you talking about that on a show.

I was like, Oh my God, Sai and I always talk about this after because we always like I'm so glad we don't make movies like it's just like just the the how long you have to like hold on to them for. I mean, and obviously you love mass state lottery and I I do too after watching it, but because like. Just. Sitting on something for so long is like. It's, it's really difficult. It's extremely difficult and now I'm learning like because I, I, I'm probably going to be doing

Blu rays. I'm learning how to do that whole process now, just in case that. Works that'll play well with like the whole sphere here because everybody wants to. That'll play really well. It's a good. So I'm looking into that right now, but for the moment we're playing in Rome on April 18th at the Cinema 4 Chana Festival. So check that out if you're in Rome, I guess. The next Fellini guys is here and he's playing in Rome. Go see it, Hans.

Pleasure having you on Great. Always, always great and I can't wait for certified hood Classics 3. It it's a hood classic in itself the series, so we might have to release those on. Blu-ray. Yeah, we'll put this on Tubi. I've thought about it like. How hard is it to get? Your podcast stream to Tubi. How hard is it? I don't think. It's that hard. How much do you have to pay? Yeah, it can't be that much. It can't be that much to just no, to just be like, at the end of the day, like.

Watch the latest episode of Rare Candy on Tubi. I would love that. That's that's I we might have just stumbled upon a really great idea right here. I will literally, we're about to wrap up. I'm literally going to look that up. It says here there's no cost to upload to Tubi, no. In fact, they don't trust creators for for a series I've heard people getting like for these backyard we're shooting

with just a little. Dude, I would love to have no. Deal. Phone I would love for a like a woke person who like maybe thinks what we were saying wasn't like exactly. I don't think we were being racist at all, but like maybe someone said and they, they do the Neil Young Joe Rogan thing with like, I'm pulling all my content off of Toby until you get until you get these white freaks off of Toby. Yeah, apparently you get paid 8 cent. No, sorry. Eight. Yeah, $0.08 per view.

That's not good, but that's not the worst. I don't get a lot on I don't guess how many cents I get on YouTube Zero. So yeah, I don't think thinking about this. That's interesting. I'm that's not a bit. I'm thinking about it so. I mean, OK, I think that the thing you need to to search for is, is there any podcasts that are on TV? And if there's not, there we go first. Podcast, my husband's name is Dwayne Martin, he's gay podcast. That's the one that is the one on there.

So all right guys, well, everyone have a safe. We can catch you guys next time.

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