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Rap Radar: Victoria Monét

Nov 09, 202349 minSeason 2Ep. 22
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Victoria Monét is a tour de force. This summer, Sacramento released her debut LP Jaguar II, and later embarked on a sold-out national tour. Not to be outdone, she plans on taking her talents across the pond and South America. Here, Victoria speaks on her latest album, Kelly Rowland, motherhood, "On My Mama", Beyoncé's Renaissance Tour, and much more! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Speaker 1

You used to rap rate our podcast. My name is beat Out.

Speaker 2

Elliott Wilson.

Speaker 1

Elliott the Butcher has come.

Speaker 2

He cockered, hero conquered. Yes, he has def GMOs is a check beat Out. You know what I'm saying. We was the rollout man put Betty in position. Man, I love it, Ben. The episode came out, Uh the Big Dog record with Lil Wayne. People see the luck.

Speaker 1

They like it, man, they like it right, b I love when the stars come together.

Speaker 3

And this wasn't planninged though, you know, like, yeah, it just happened serendipitously, and I love it.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 3

The record is fire. The conversation was fire all. It's off to Jeff jam now though. Man, they got to release the project.

Speaker 2

Yo, no pressure game but to gi all the wonderful people over there. But yeah, be You know what I'm saying is beat Out talking to mess He said this is one of the best albums. Beat Out so critical. But the way he's praising this Benny the Butcher album, he heard stuff we haven't heard. What's going on with Beata's critique of this Belly the Butcher album.

Speaker 1

I give props when they do. It's so weird when people say things like that.

Speaker 3

I'm like, like, yo, I give people their flowers when it's the right time, you know, when it's appropriate.

Speaker 1

I guess I guess my critiques allowed in my praise.

Speaker 2

I feel like your critics are like curveballs, like they don't know what it's coming. They don't know how It's like they know you throw strikes, but they don't know what it's coming. They're like, who's gonna get it? Who's this?

Speaker 3

Anybody?

Speaker 1

Anybody could get it.

Speaker 2

That's anybody could get it. And I feel like, you know, if I'm a Rat fan, you definitely got to run that rapp or our podcast back with Benny because I feel like, you know, like we said, we heard a lot. We were a blessed shout to chase out to this team.

We were blessed to hear early versions of some songs, and you know, things may change in the final mix, but I feel like we gave a lot of people the information about the album in advance, and Benny's ecstatic about it, and you know, I just think it's a Rat fan, It's it's like it's rare when you get that, because nowadays everything kind of comes out at one time. You know what I mean, so I think it's dope.

It's kind of like a puzzle, right to see, like one ends up really making a final record, right.

Speaker 1

I think the version that we heard, for the most part is what's going to be sent to the masses, and hopefully it is because I think this is the project that rat fans want and you know, the Griselda fans have been asking for. So I'm looking forward to to its release.

Speaker 2

Benny the Butcher Man, Yeah, sert Man, Griselda Man. Somebody said you this is your eighty fifth interview with Griselda. I was like, yeah, man, what the fuck stop hating?

Speaker 3

No't be hating, man, what's the rap rate our podcast without a Griselda conversation?

Speaker 2

Man, I'm saying it was a completed thing too now, because we had Westside Gun by himself, We did Conway by himself. We had had to get the Butcher by himself. You know, we had to make this a complete Its the only way. And you know, think about us beat out, We go out and get the stories. Man. We never hesitated. We've been many exotic places. We've been a Budapest, Hungary. We've been to uh Canada, Toronto, Canada, we're gone. One time we went to where do we go? We talked

to was it take? Keith went out to him.

Speaker 3

For one day?

Speaker 2

What was he in Memphis? What was he?

Speaker 1

I think he was in Memphis.

Speaker 2

We just will go anywhere. We'll get in the plane, We'll go anywhere. Yes, it's the first time to raperate our podcast episodes taped in a fine place doing this Sacramento.

Speaker 1

California, Sacramento and sacked. Hewn told dB yes, but he had the pleasure of talking to the lovely talented Victoria Money.

Speaker 3

Man.

Speaker 2

Yo, I'm not I wasn't even that up on Victoria Money. I would hear her name in passing through the years, and I know she kind of built like a cult following. But then I put that Jaguar too on. Man, I'm not mad at it. Man. I was like, yo, I get it now, like I'm starting to understand, and it's just dope. I see like her emergence as an artist and her performance and stepping her game up, and I was just like, when you hit me about it, was

y'all idea to do it. I was like, yeah, I'm all in because I feel like it's just dope to see an artist kind of like growing to that position and kind of feel like it's her time right now.

Speaker 3

You know absolutely. I love the fact that you said like she feels like a new artist in a conversation. She's almost like a seasoned rookie. She's been in the game for almost a decade, over a decade, and like now she's finally getting her props and her flowers. It's like, Victoria Manet is the hottest ticket in town. I told she's the hottest name in R and B because it's like, if you're going to see her show, you're coming away feeling fulfilled, like yop, she's dead.

Speaker 1

She sings, she has crazy breath control, like she's she's a she's a double threat for sure.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and it's dope because the people so critical R and B, but that actually is good R and B out there man, and that all my mama. Man, that's a smash manlet's get that's getting bigger and bigger. I feel like that's the records not even at the highest's going to reach it. It's it's still growing. As much of it's already established it. I feel like that record's still bubbling.

Speaker 1

Yeah, for sure, it's one of those songs that when you first hear it the first time, you know.

Speaker 3

It's going to be a hit.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and video of course is exemplary. Man, it's so fire.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what's the dude I Look Good at? Charlie Boy's name is Charlie Boy, Yeah, Dolley Boy. Yeah. He made that record in you know, the one of six and Parker hip Hop, that I Look Good record. That shit was like a smash and like, you know, it's dope that her pay homage to it but take a new direction and she put him in the video. He was all super geeked to be in the video. You can see, like it's just dope to see like that tie in and her represent the culture like that. You know.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it was good to talk to her about about that. And of course she's hitting the rope. Actually the tour is about to be over, but she's about to go over see soon, first time over sit Yeah, yep, touch the people over in Europe and Brazil.

Speaker 1

And of course we talked about the album Motherhood. We left no stone on turn.

Speaker 2

I was gonna say, man, I think if you're a Victoria Monday fan and then there's a lot of them out there with super cold fans. I hope, hope this reaches her true fans because I feel like I feel like it's her best interview. Man. That's why, that's why these artists. Man, you can't front of the Rapperate our podcasts. Man, you're gonna sit in front of us, gonna sit in front of me and beat out. You're gonna get the best interview to really tell your story. Man, this is

the platform. Man. Don't try to play no games. Man, it's us Man.

Speaker 1

Best interviews or your money back guarantee.

Speaker 2

I don't know about the money back, man. Best interviews though, best interviews. Man, you don't get your art needs to be critiqued. Man, let's stop making such a big deal about these interviews. Man, just sit down, man talk.

Speaker 3

Man, you had a good conversation with Victoria, So that's all that counts.

Speaker 2

That's all it counts.

Speaker 3

Man.

Speaker 2

You know, and we ended in the fourth quarter right now, the season two of the Rapperate our podcast is winding down. We got a couple more slots were about to hit you at the end of the year, you know, beat Outs cooking something up. We got our fingers crossed. You know what I'm saying. We gonna see see what we could pull off. Man. You know what I'm saying, right be you still feel good about that he was telling me about. Man, he's still feeling good.

Speaker 3

Listen, it's the knife, end it, man, bottom of the knife.

Speaker 1

Guess how you're gonna crack man?

Speaker 2

Exactly man, the rapp right up? Boys, what it gonna crack? Man? We apply pressure, man, We don't let the pressure get to us. Man, we apply pressure. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

But let's get into it though.

Speaker 2

Right The loveliest talented man Victoria Monet V Monet, Yes, sir, and the rap rate on podcasts, Yeah, rap right up? Podcast. Elliott Wilson's name is beat I I what's up baby?

Speaker 3

Looking good? Elliott?

Speaker 2

Feeling good? Man. We in Sacramento. Yes, I'm all away here to see this lovely lady.

Speaker 3

Hey Monette, I just name an R and B.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 4

Oh my gosh, thank you, thank you so much. Welcome to sack Town.

Speaker 2

Absolutely Sacramento. Like we just got here. What's going on with Sacramento?

Speaker 4

You know what? So much has changed since I moved. I moved away in two thousand and nine, so I'm learning a little bit today. Like you are, but Sacramento is really really cool. Growing up here, it was awesome, lots of diversity, great musical taste. There's also like left of center, very eclectic people here. We called the City of Trees, so there's lots of weed, like kind of hippie style people. So I love it here and it's really beautiful, like lots of greenery.

Speaker 2

And do you think the environment kind of spurred your creativity?

Speaker 4

Definitely? Yeah. I mean the crew that I was rolling with shout out to Boogey Monsters, But I was in a dance group called Boogey Monsters here in Sacramento, and they shaped a lot of my style because they were all wearing like Jordan's dunks, like baggy pants, and they shaped a lot of my musical taste by introducing me to music that they were choreographing too that I hadn't

quite heard yet. And then they play a lot of mainstream radio music here, so I was introduced to like top forty music, and then my mom was listening to like Boujiu Bontan and like Elvis Crespo, like random different things. So I think it all melted together to make my musical taste.

Speaker 3

It seems like every city you're in you're owning right now this year.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we all to congratulations on the success of the tour.

Speaker 4

Thank you so much.

Speaker 3

You an now sit back in September, the tickets sold out in like thirty seconds.

Speaker 4

Oh my god. I got cussed out so bad online. They were like we were the tickets were in our queue and then now they're gone. I don't say how I added it to my car. You need to do bigger than I'm getting cussed out. My team's getting cussed out for it. But I'm just very thankful to see the reciprocation because it's my first headlining tour, so we really didn't know, you know, so we had to time. Sure, I'm going to do it again.

Speaker 3

Were you anticipating the fans to show out like that?

Speaker 2

No?

Speaker 4

No, no, no, no, not at all. I thought, you know, we put the tickets up for sale. I want to say, like a month ahead of time, if I'm remembering correctly, So I thought, yeah, maybe by the first date of the tour, like things should be sold out, but not in seconds. You know. You were like, oh okay, so we see what's what's up and gone to upgrade.

Speaker 3

Accordingly, which been your favorite seed to performing?

Speaker 4

You know what I get. I just get surprised every night at how much people know. I put the album out two weeks before I toured, so it's just been really cool to see how quickly people are learning the music. I'm performing songs that had just come out, so of course they know the other older songs, but to know a new album that quickly, I feel is really impressive. But I have a show here in Sacramento tomorrow, yes, so like that's how I'm ending the American leg of

the tour. So I don't know, I'm gonna save my favorite to see a Sacramento you know, tops everything.

Speaker 2

What do you think it's gonna be e motionwise for you tomorrow? Is it gonna happen?

Speaker 4

I think I'm gonna be a mess, like before the show, during and after the show, because I think I think back to two thousand and nine when I was telling

my family that I'm gonna move. We had a going away party at Golden Corral, yes right, and they and they were giving me money to like, you know, just like say you know, best of look and to now have them be able to come to a show and see the reasons why I miss some of those birthday parties and some of those Christmas gatherings, and like the emotion that'll be surrounded, you know, surrounding me, just seeing me accomplish some of my dreams. I think it's going

to be a lot. Oh my god, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 2

It's to you. I get one.

Speaker 4

Hey, yeah, you know what I'm saying. People are people are in the DMS. Okay, but I remember me right, Yeah, like you're dark gray, but I'm so. I'm just happy to be home.

Speaker 2

It feels really good to be home, he mentioned. So that's this major turnpoint in your life. Two thousand and nine, you moved to LA. I want to make, you know, we want to make it. Want to be a star, I want to break into the business. Yeah. We are now fourteen years later, and it seems like you finally are getting the success kind of the way you foresee it. Like, yeah, Like what do you attribute that to?

Speaker 4

I think I have to say it's like determination. I think when people discover that I'm a tourist, their first thing that they say, oh, you're a bullheaded, you're bullheaded, you're stubborn. But I think another way, I like to look at taurists is that we're very determined. Instead of looking at it as stubborn, it's like we are very driven to get exactly what we want. And so there's been a lot of no's. There's been a lot of times where I should have been like packed it up

and moved back to Sack. But because of my bullheadedness and my determination, and I think a lot of tenacity and everything that surrounds someone who just really wants something really bad, that's why I'm still going for it fourteen years later, China, and it still feels like the beginning, which is crazy new artist, right, Yeah, I just found out today that I'm nominated for Soul Train Awards in one of the categories is best New Artists. It's like,

you know what I mean. Yes, it's really awesome.

Speaker 3

With Kelly Rowland, she said that you forced everyone to step the fuck up. That's not like something Kelly would say.

Speaker 4

She has been Oh my gosh, she's been such an

amazing role model and sister figure. And it's really crazy to even be having conversations with her because she's someone that I looked up to buying albums here in Sacca when I was in a girl group early on in my career, like we just were singing Destiny's Child covers and like, you know, looking up to them to just have her pour into me and have conversations about how great my heart is, or like how just any compliments that she gives feels like a real privilege and dream

come true to just hear that from an idol, you know. So it's really awesome, but it's true.

Speaker 3

I think anytime someone's talking about Victoria Money, it's like she's such a great live performer. Like that's like one of the first things people say, how did you become such a great live performer?

Speaker 4

You know what? I attribute that to sach. It first started in Sacramento. I went to Sheldon High School, which is a performing art high school in Sacramento, and after school I was in the dance program, so I was rehearsing there. And then after that I would go rehearse with Bogeymont Stars and from like eight pm to two am because they were already out of high school, so

I was rehearsing late hours. I actually got kicked out of my house for this because my mom was like, you are not about to come to my household at two am, and I was like, I just want to dance. It felt very much like like Sister Act, I just

want to go to this thing. So like it's been building the performance ability and agility has like I've been working on it for a really long time, then adding you know, more vocals into it, like singing on the treadmill, like just making sure that I'm training like an athlete and going to the gym and taking things seriously, drinking the right types of water, you know, like taking everything that I should be doing and just like combining it

and making sure I'm consistent with it. So I think I've just been working a lot behind the scenes, and now that it is time for the curtains to open, I feel like since I've been working on it for so long, it just seems like, oh, people will comment like, oh, she's new, but it seemed like she must have been doing this for a long time, and I'm like, you're not wrong. It's just been working on.

Speaker 2

It for long, even like with like the Fallent appearance, right, like that's a TV show, but it feels like, yeah, we could have been at a show, like we could have paid money this same. Hey, you know what, I mean, and I thought something cool too, like you came out, you said your name, you said the song like sometimes my time you see artists perform like new artists, I always say, like they don't say who they are. Really

claim your space. I feel like your whole presence, besides the great dancing is you really know how to claim your presence in your space.

Speaker 4

Thank you, Thank you so much. That means a lot.

Speaker 3

I appreciate absolutely. The breath control was crazy. I saw the clip that went viral last year at Soul Balloom.

Speaker 4

Yeah some cutdown.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think I think you were either doing that or performing ass like that. And I was like, no, I can hear all the words and it's like real time, it's not no background vocals. So I was really impressed by that.

Speaker 4

Thank you so much. Someone commented that I should just just get the mic so I can free up that other hand, the old school nineties mic. I'm like, that's not a bad idea.

Speaker 2

Let's talk about the elephant in the room. You have a huge hit record, yes, it's called My Mama. Like, talk to me, like, like, what is it like for you to have your own hit? This massive hits?

Speaker 4

It's really crazy. It's really really special. It was, to be honest, when I wrote on My Mama, I had just had my daughter, and I was feeling like I wasn't good, Like I was a little bit outside of my body and my head's face was not good. I was dealing with postpartum bad and I wasn't sure with the pandemic and everything like how things would come back

to like for me. And I think that some of that was a little bit of an old way of thinking, because early on in my career it was ingrained that like, you know, performing artists don't have boyfriends, they don't have babies, and they don't like they're not old, they have to be young. So like all of those thoughts come up when you make a life change, like have a baby.

So going in the studio, I didn't know what much else to write about because I was just breastfeeding, like you know, like I don't know, I don't know what to say anymore. And so My Mama just was a concept that came and was something that I needed to hear and be able to use affirmations to say good things about myself and just felt like a fun record.

So it's almost like a gift to myself that it's such a big song now because it's like because you were determined and because you still put it on, recorded that idea and kept going, I'm going to reward you with this being the biggest song because you know, I would have thought it was songs before this before, you know, because I recorded that at a time where I was like, I wasn't thinking that I had it anymore. I was like, dang, I don't know. Maybe I'm not a good songwriter, not

a good artist. So it just have you ever seen that there's like a I don't know if you would call it a meme, but it's like this guy who's like digging for gold and he starts to stop right where the gold is and he turns around. But if you just like kept going that a little bit more than you would have hit the gold. And I feel like, my mama and this era was that little bit more for me. So I'm just like, oh my god, So I'm really grateful.

Speaker 2

When did you start feeling that it was It was one of those ones that it was. It was impacting.

Speaker 4

Probably tour really like just to see people sing it back to me, and actually also the response to the music video when people started to yeah. Yeah, the feedback from the album and the video, so like the culmination of all these things feels like the tumbleweed is rolling right now and it's just gathering so much so, but in the past few months, I feel like I'm realizing a lot about the importance of having done these records

at this time. So it's like perfect timing, Like everything's happening now.

Speaker 2

I was saying that the guy was a Charlie Charlie Boy. I look so happy in the video.

Speaker 4

He killed it.

Speaker 2

He's great that you don't paid him home is putting them in an individuals.

Speaker 4

I'm so glad he was able to join and he came out from one of the tour stops to join me on stage to do it too, and we did well. He killed it. Yes, he was singing, and I was like, someone said, uh, Charlie Boy turned to Charlie Wilson. Really yeah, he killed it. So it's been awesome just to have the love, genuine love from the original artist and from Texas Southern culture, and like, it's just been really amazing.

Speaker 2

How your mama feel about how your mama Oh she she.

Speaker 4

Literally was like, oh, you want this song about me. You know, the first time I played it for her, she was like, yeah, she loved it. So when I asked her to be in the video. She was in one of the last scenes of the video. It was like probably two or three am. Finally her turn. And so when we got her on camera, she was like, oh, I don't know what to do. What do I do? I was like, let me just dance. You got it, And so the camera turned on, she goes and she just starts hitting a.

Speaker 2

Bunch of people.

Speaker 4

I'm like, who is this? The dancers were all shocked. It was just such a great moment. And then I also had my daughter in the video, so it just seems like a multi generational, really good feeling that we have on film that can like a home video but for the world. You know.

Speaker 3

I think the moment that everyone loves is that part where you take off the jackets and oh.

Speaker 2

My god, that's so fluid.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Like, how many takes did y'all do to get that one right?

Speaker 2

One?

Speaker 4

Literally one we had one take. When you get start to get in production, it just people start moving fast and we have to be out of the venue at a certain time, and like you just start to cut stuff, but you plan to film, and that scene was one that was going to be cut. I was like, we gotta let's just hit it one time. So we just had to nail it and get it done. And I thought originally it was going to have like more angles and stuff, but it just worked out exactly how it

was supposed to be perfect. I'm trying to see if someone can figure out how to do it, like if a TikToker, if somebody can like get it right. I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 3

What that we haven't seen it? How much closer are we all to the makan A Stallion on My Mama remix?

Speaker 4

Oh my god, you tell me, because I really have been like trying to manifest that I did hang with her the other night for Halloween. Didn't mention that. I feel like it wasn't the time and place, but like that's the one, like that's the one feature. Well, there's a couple, but definitely her, definitely Beyonce. It would be like obviously dream Renaissance. Yes, I just it just makes so much sense to just being that they're both from Texans.

It's Texas and just such a cultural thing, right. But I would be honored if it's not that just doing anything with me because people say that we're twins. So we were talking about it. We were like, we finally proved that we're two different people.

Speaker 2

Oh, you hadn't met. That was the first time.

Speaker 4

We've seen each other in passing it an award show, and then this was really the first time we had a full conversation. Yeah in costume, in costume, yeah, well on Halloween costumes. It was fun.

Speaker 3

Sticking on a wrap though. You know, although, like I said, you're the hottest name in R and B, your producer d Mile you said you're a rap on the low for real, for real punch lines, be punching. I love the line on O Mama you say, I'm so deep in my bag like a grandma. Wouldn't a peppermint?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 2

Visual always hip a peppermint?

Speaker 4

Yes, isn't it true? That's that church?

Speaker 3

Yeah? But do you join inspiration from like rappers and hip hop?

Speaker 4

I definitely love hip hop so much and just being a dancer, dancing to hip hop you always get. You listen to the music a lot, learning the choreography, so you get to hear some lyrics over and over again and try to get dissect what it means. The cadences are super cool. I feel like they just be talking shit so much and it's really fun. So I like to try to do that in my music. Just talk a little bit, but make it pretty and melodic, but also just like have fun, fun with it.

Speaker 2

How did you develop as a songwriter?

Speaker 4

I do it a lot. I feel like ten thousand plus hours really, and then also sharing space with other people that you are inspired by can really help. Listening to different types of music. I think one thing that helped me is like, instead of always listening to what is being played right now today, I'll go back and still listen to like seventies music, or like sometimes just like motown, or listen to like Brazilian seventies music, like

just trying to like change it up. Listen to Shot for a little bit because she's very poetic, just switching it up and drawing inspiration from things that aren't at maybe mainstream right now, so that you can differentiate yourself from maybe what is.

Speaker 3

Like trendy, you know, And although you've written songs and hooks for others, like, are there moments where you want to keep them all to yourself?

Speaker 4

No, I really enjoy writing for other people. I think that my voice everything is not for my voice and not for my style and not for my my I

guess my message. Like there's so many different ways to express myself when I feel like being a songwriter allows me to jump into someone else's world, Like what if I wanted to write a country song and Victoria Monet as an artist is not at that place right now, So like it's cool to just be able to like spread ideas across and like, you know, have conversations with

people that maybe bring their ideas to life. Like if I sat down with a country artists or like of death metal artists or its something like, and they tell me what's going on with their life, I'd be able to express that completely differently than how I would say it in that same situation in my own song. So it's just like being a painter and having different colors to use, you know.

Speaker 2

How do you view a Victoria Monais soon, Like what are the elements in there that I assist that you think?

Speaker 4

For Jaguar Era, it's definitely horns. Music's very horny. Yeah, yes, lots of horns. I love live music, live instrumentation. I feel like That's another element sonically that I really stand by. It's using live musicians. I also love just being a little bit playful, and that since I write my own music, it maybe flows a little bit easier, just because I don't have to consult, I guess, with anybody to say like do you like this idea? Should we say this?

It's just all in here, so like it's just kind of a little bit more free, free flowing for me. But yeah, the goal in any session of writing any song is just to make the best song possible that day, with whatever tools that you have that day. I feel like ideas are like things that blow in the wind, and if you catch one, you're lucky, and if you let it go, it goes to somebody else some different time. But it's unlimited. So like if you go on the studio,

you're gonna get whatever you have. You know, if your hands are open, something will land.

Speaker 2

And I read one of your interviews when you said sometimes you almost have to just get the bad ideas out if it isn't clicking right, and just stay in it, just.

Speaker 4

Go yeah, yeah, just just it's kind of an exercise, like I guess, you know, if you practice seven days a week. One of those days might not be as good, but then maybe the seventh day is the game. But if you didn't do the sixth day that was bad, maybe it'll end up being on your game day. So it's like you just gotta keep working.

Speaker 3

Or a year ago, you said you wanted to make a classic love song that Anita Baker would be, Yes, you feel like you've done that yet, Well.

Speaker 4

I'd have to hear from her. I'd have to hear from her, but I I feel like, yes, that's the one. I feel like. Would would uh, I would guess she may be proud of But I am going to see her in December. Yeah, I'm going to go to her show. So if we ever get a chance to speak, and if she's even listened at all, I would. I would hope that I've made her proud because she's inspired me so much and just brought so many moments, so much color, so much more color with her music.

Speaker 3

So it's funny you mentioned how does it feel, Elie? I love the way that song bleeds into all my mama.

Speaker 4

It's crazy, right. There was a there's a composer named Puranahead out of Detroit who did that transition. And he has this orchestra called the Soul Chestra, so it's his own string players and people that played live to make that transition happen. And we thought it was sick. D Mile orchestrated that situation. He knows Barana had very well. Well, he also Parana had. Did I did an album live well, not last year, the year before of orchestral arrangements of

Jaguar and Paranahead did all those arrangements as well. So shout out to Paranhahead one time out of Detroit. But yeah, he killed that transition.

Speaker 2

And D Miley he spoke of he spoke of you earlier. What do you make of him?

Speaker 3

Like?

Speaker 2

Why is he a go to guy? Like? What makes him so special as a producer?

Speaker 4

Well, I think our relationship goes beyond production. When I moved to atlant in two thousand and nine, like I was saying, he was someone who let the girl group that I was in stay in his home. He had a three bedroom apartment with two other guys, and it was there was like eight of us staying in his home because they opened their home to us. We didn't have any place to go. So our relationship started there

that's my brother for life. Like whether or not we do another song, I just know that he's a great person and he cares about people, and he loves great music, and he bases his collaborations more so on that than who's got the most streams or who's popping. Like he'll go if you have one listener and he thinks you're incredible, he'll you knowsional session and get inspired. So I just love him so much. I think we have a great

thing going sonically. But again, even if we never made another song, like that's my bro.

Speaker 3

I love the fact, like on the album on Draguar two, you don't stick to traditional formats, like one of my favorites is all right, and like the verses are real short. Yeah you have like three choruses and stuff like that. Ain't have like a rap kind of flow too.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I just love changing the cadences up a little bit. I do love like rhythm. Maybe that's something that I got from dance too, because when you're choreographing hip hop, you can dance in between certain rhythms and you like pay attention to cadences of lyrics. So like some of the syncopations and stuff the switches are nice to have and song. Yeah, I feel like I try, I know the traditional formats of music, but then it's like you

learn all the rules and then you forget them. You can break them, right, Yeah, So I guess that's what I try to do a little bit, is just switch things up. You know, how does it make you feel? It's not a normal, normal time signature. It switches from three four to four to four. So it's like, that's another fun thing, you know. Stop asking me for shits like random. It slows down me to like talk and shit Like, I feel like it's just fun to kind of just stir stir it up, mix things up.

Speaker 2

Well, stop asking me for inspired by true events.

Speaker 4

Not specifically true events. I think it's just like in general, you want you to put your phone on to not to start, you know. I felt like a very relatable concept. And it actually came about because I was writing another song with DMA on the room and for some reason the lyrics to stop asking me for shit came, but it wasn't to that beat that was that was looping

in the studio. So the next day they made a beat and I was like, huh, I don't really like it, and then the third day, I said, can you just play that beat that you guys played yesterday and it will stop asking me for shit. But then I just put the lyrics I had to that, and just like it just worked. So you just never know how stuff ends up happening for the better good.

Speaker 3

You know, since we talked about Jagua too, it was supposed to be a trilogy, right, yes, why'd you scrap that idea?

Speaker 4

Well, Pandemic. I didn't expect there to be three years in between these albums. It was going to be like, you know, my original plan was just to put three projects out so I could microdose people into my music. And so I know, attention spands are super short, and I just wanted to it not overwhelm. I had a lot of music to give, but not overwhelm them and put it all in one project. So I was like,

let's just split it up. But then when I started splitting things up and I just picked the very best songs I had, then I was like, I feel like this project is not done. And so once I finished that it became Jaguar two. I was like, I feel like I've completed the sentence that I wanted to say with Jaguar so I didn't feel it necessary to do a third. I mean, technically there kind of will be, because I want to do a Deluxe, So if you want to look at that as a third, it could be.

But I just felt like Jaguar two, I made the statement that I wanted to make you.

Speaker 2

Know, You've been even very precise with the rollout throughout the whole year, like what made you start with Smoke the Lucky Day collaboration.

Speaker 4

Between Jaguar one and two. I felt like Smoke was

the most consistent with the sonics of Jaguar one. So I kind of wanted to usher people into the new era and give them something familiar but still new for Victoria, and then go into the other eras the other pages of Jaguar two, because then I went into Party Girls, which is a more like Island, you know, a Jamaican vibe, and then we went to a nineties early two thousands vibe with All My Mama, So it kind of journeys you through seventies into like nineties like reggae, into like

early two thousands Victoria.

Speaker 2

Also, like those promo skits you shot around smoke and stuff like that. Yeah, acting's fun.

Speaker 4

It's so fun. I'm just like crossing my fingers on SNL like. But I have such a great creative team. We have a creative group chat and just so fun to just throw ideas out there and see what sticks and what we can accomplish, how much it's gonna cost to do, you know, pull all these ideas together. But it's really fun to just kind of dabble in the

acting world but still make it. It's still involved with my music because one day I do want to like separately act and also write scripts for sitcoms and you know, use my pen in that way. You know.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I know the visuals are really important to you because you're not afraid to do bro for a video like a body Girl at the Jamaica moment. You did that in South Africa. Yes, so the budget don't make mean nothing.

Speaker 2

Well, you know what, you don't have to climb the pole for smoke.

Speaker 4

Hey, you know what I did?

Speaker 2

I worked.

Speaker 4

I worked really hard for that. There was also another music video for that I originally pulled danced for for Freak and it's just like high respect stripper so much.

Speaker 2

Good God damn say it will stop me from spinning us up.

Speaker 4

I was on the spin poole and I was like, I finally got this move. And the tighter you are to the pole, the faster it spins. So it's this move where I had to be tight to the poles and I finally nailed it. I was like, yes, I was like I don't know how to stop myself. So that was that was a time, my god. But now I have been to Magic City since and I'm like, oh my god, oh my god. Crazy. It's like it's a different style, but it's just like so much core work.

They are athletes truly, It's like it's insane. So shout out to shout out to y'all.

Speaker 3

But what was it like meeting Bouja BoNT On in Jamaica doing the video experience.

Speaker 2

He is.

Speaker 4

Incredible. He's super powerful. The way he speaks to you when he wants to say something important, how intense. He looks into your eyes and he's like serious. It's almost like big bro, like I'm telling you this and I'm

dead ass, you know. But when I first was talking to him, it was through WhatsApp because I hadn't gotten to Jamaica yet, and so he had to like break some things down from because his acts and I was like what, so he would just like take his time with me because he knows something I didn't completely understand. But it's really amazing to have someone like that, Like your mom was listening to is.

Speaker 3

Your mom Caribbean?

Speaker 4

No? Okay mobile Ale.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because when I heard that vibe yeah that she listened to Bouju like till Shallow was one of my favorite albums for him, and I'm like, okay, that's very specific.

Speaker 4

Yes, I'm like, why did you? I want to know who introduced her to But she was also listening to Uncle Luke, so like she just had maybe some cool friends that had great musical taste and just put her on. But it was in those moments where she was like in a great mood and wanted to clean the house and like just vibing. So I just feel like I have a really cool moment.

Speaker 2

Yeah crazy And that song, it's like he just gives you a no.

Speaker 4

Yeah, well we gave it. When we first gave him the song to rap too, it was like still the production from the first part of the song. So when he gave he gave us his verse back, we were like, oh, we got to take it to Jamaica. So then a producer named Drettie came in and recreated the beat under his verse, so it felt more like his world. Oh wow,

just like it turned it all the way up. So it was just like such an amazing back and forth process of making that that record and then the video too, Like I'm like, dang, maybe I need to make I need to make a song that where I can go to Greece, you know, like specifically so I can travel to do the video there. But yeah, it was really awesome mixed me.

Speaker 3

Then you returned to favor you on his album Yes Touching Body, Yes.

Speaker 2

Yes, it's swap.

Speaker 4

Yeah. Yeah. He was like, do you have any songs that that you think I could write on in the end, So when I sent that, he was like like, basically just wait till I send you back this record. So it's just so cool, like some of the things that you think of as a kid that seems so distant that you just got to let time do its thing, you know, and they come to you.

Speaker 2

Speaking of that, how do you get earth Winding Fire on your album?

Speaker 4

I will never get over it. But my manager is a beast. She knew that The inspiration for Jaguar One was Earths Winding Fire and listening to their music and you know, hearing the horn arrangements and their strings and how it made people feel to listen to their music. I was listening to a lot of that when making Jaguar One, So it was an idea, like we wanted to have them on the project, and she made it happen and they were down, like they were very receptive

to the music. I got a call from Verding White the other day. I'm like, it's my life. He just he said he saw me on fallin he you know, he knows the tours going on, and it's just really crazy, Like my life is just changing so fast, and I'm trying to be present and like take it all in and like because a lot of the things that are happening are things that I had written down before, like wish for before, and I'm also writing more things and

wishing for more things right now. But I don't want to get to ahead of myself and just try to enjoy the things that are happening now, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3

Well, I love about that. So in Hollywood, is that the hook you say, you say you're dreaming bigger than I ever should. Yeah, what were some of those dreams like early on?

Speaker 4

Well, well, I feel like when I say that lyric, it's more so I'm kind of like, you know, when you come from a town like this, You're like, yeah, I want the lights and I want you know, I want to leave my mark on history, and I want the fancy car that I see on the TV. And I want the big house by the Malibu beach, you know, these like physical tangible things and then having my daughter, and it's also writing just about more important things in life.

You just realize that like you don't need any of that. It's really more so about genuinely being happy with where you're what you're doing, like pursuing things that make you happy, saying no to the things that you don't, saying no to the people that don't make you happy, and surrounding yourself with people who you truly love, creating a legacy

through your bloodline or through who you can help. And so the record just kind of challenges all of the things that I say, you know, maybe people move to La to get and just takes you back to the root of it all, which is happiness, family, quality, time and those things. So that's why I put my daughter on the record with them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think you're doing an amazing job with that, and I sold one of your Instagram dedications. You also made a point of saying how it's important for your daughter to have a front row seat to see all the hard work. Yeah, Like, why do you think that? Why do you want her to be seeing everything going on?

Speaker 4

You know what, I saw my mom do it too. My mom was a single mom. She got pregnant at nineteen. I know a lot of people have a similar story, but I saw her working three jobs and I saw her, you know, want to go back to school and finish school and try to provide the best life for me, make changes in my life and sacrifices in hers. One of the things she made sure made happen was the fact that I went to Sheldon High School, which is

a performing our school. We had to change our address to do so because we didn't live in the area where they accepted my you know, accepting me as a student. So like she had some finessing going on just to make sure that I was raised a certain way. And I saw and did what I needed to do, and I think that I'm trying to make those same efforts with my daughter, and I think just the same way that I do, she's gonna she's gonna take those characteristics

and apply them herself. She's watching everything. She's watching my show and she probably shouldn't anymore. She's like doing the dances. I'm like, no, no, no, no, singing the lyrics. She knows stop. She knows smoke like I'm like, okay. One time we were at a restaurant and we were listening to I believe I was listening to the mix of smoke in the car. And so she's in the car and she's we get into the line, the food line. We were at Porthos, shout out to Porthos and we were in

the line and she's in her stroller. She's like, Mama, I want to go go back to the car. I want to go smoke. I'm like, what, I want to go smoke? What she meant is what she wants to go back to listen to smoke. I'm like, you were going to get me arrested. The people are going to figure out here smoking with me. But it's just like now, it's just at that age where she's two and a half.

She's listening and watching everything. So as much bad things that are out there that she could see, I want to be the good things that she could see and the good examples that she could apply to her young life.

Speaker 2

You said, understand the sacrifices.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so that you tweeted, you said, she said, I want to be Mama on stage.

Speaker 4

Yes, she said it literally. She said it again this morning. I said, what do you want to do today? She said, I want to sing like Mama, Like, oh.

Speaker 2

My god, my heart.

Speaker 4

She really really knows how to just grab it and hold it. But yeah, yeah, she's starting to be vocal about what she wants to do. She's in the mirror doing her own baby shock dances and everything. So hey, kids, bop us up.

Speaker 3

Victoria. She is on Hollywood. I don't know if you have the money for the feature for the next time.

Speaker 4

I know, I know it's expensive, very expensive feature, but she does. I gave her her pub on Hollywood.

Speaker 2

So so well, Hollywood, why did you get so deep at there? What do you live for? What do you what do you be for? Damn? Victoria questions?

Speaker 4

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

It's okay, music can be therapy too.

Speaker 4

It was there. Music has been definitely very therapeutic for me, just to express whatever I'm holding and just write it and like release it.

Speaker 3

You know, so is going to be on any more songs?

Speaker 4

Shoot, I think she's ready for her own album intro. Yeah, yeah, but I would love to do more with her. I actually want to do like have you guys ever heard of Gracie's Yeah, like something like that with her, like her have her own world so I can make child appropriate music because she can't keep singing party girls like oh no birthday party girls. You know, party girls a party training song. Let's change the lyrics. Yeah yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 3

You also take your talents across the pond in a few weeks, right, Yes, it's they your first time headlining a show over in Europe?

Speaker 4

Yes, wow, yeah, first time before the last time I was there it was opening I was on a tour opening for Ariana Grande there Dangerous Woman tours. So I haven't actually performed there since. I've been back once once, So like, it's definitely time to go to London and like see the town and all my mom is being received really well there now too.

Speaker 3

So yeah, so much so you had to put a second date to Yes, there's.

Speaker 4

Two shows in and then I'm going to Brazil. Oh man, Yeah, South America. Here we come.

Speaker 3

Get the passports.

Speaker 4

Come on, round it up. You already came to Sacramento, so you might as well fly.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying, Go where victorious?

Speaker 4

Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2

But speaking of Ariana, I saw some article someow you had two of her biggest hits right, two number ones, and then that was kind of the main point of where it's like I could be looked at as this person who's songwriter, extraordinary. Everybody comes to me at that moment you pivoted and really went for it and made this happen.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, you know, it's kind of a scary thing because at the time you get you're getting all these calls and you're not sure if it's the right move. But the instinct was there, and I had a crazy discussion with my team about it, and you know, everyone was on board and pushing me to like, this is, you know, one of the biggest decisions of your life, you know, because it could change everything how you navigate right now could really just be the foundation for everything

that you've wanted. So we got in the studio and you know I think that now looking back right move.

Speaker 2

Yeah, congratulations, absolutely, thank you so appreciate you. Thank you for taking the time.

Speaker 4

Thank you.

Speaker 2

You guys want you to tear it down more at the hometown. Shall go?

Speaker 4

Are you guys coming? I'm out of here. I'm only here for this, okay, you know what.

Speaker 3

I might have to stay a little bit longer.

Speaker 4

Come on, it's only like twenty four hours.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

I think you're right that that's not that Also, isn't that bad? When you saw Beyonce you tweeted that she's the greatest performer live. No debate about it, yo.

Speaker 4

Don't ask no questions like it's true?

Speaker 2

What are you doing?

Speaker 4

I saw her in two cities that are in l A and Houston.

Speaker 2

I saw in London. I saw what so did you in London?

Speaker 4

What do you think?

Speaker 2

It's her best tour though, I think it's crazy. She's killing it.

Speaker 3

I saw it on Instagram, knows.

Speaker 4

Well, you know what. You could see it in theaters. Hey, yay, So she got your back. You see how byance is so great? She just she thought of you. So I'm excited to see because I know she has so much other footage of how the process, and so I'm always inspired by her as not only an artist but a mom, a mother of three, like navigating a whole world tour, sixty something shows and more because she's not just touring, she's doing other things in between. Just got some perfume out,

you know. And so I watching Life as but a Dream, or like documentaries where she's talking about the personal size and like balancing at all as a mom, or even the Coachella doc. You know, it's all been super inspiring and just real like it's something that you don't even realize you feel until you actually experience it. So you become a mom, you can't really prepare for it, you know.

So it's been really cool to just get an inside view on one of the biggest stars in the world, but also the human element of you know, still holding together a family with the.

Speaker 2

Soul illness even you know, also in your music, how does it feel with all my mom and how it's become sort of this empowerment, right, yeah, how well receive other women are taking in famous women? Right? You know, women we don't know that cutting these videos and just a sort of organic connection to the song.

Speaker 4

I couldn't dream of anything more. It's like what I got from other artists is what I wanted to give to people. And I feel like just seeing these videos, I feel like I'm, you know, at that point where people are, you know, I want, I want to inspire people.

I want to live in this, live this life, to inspire others, to give all that I can give to other people and just make their lives happier, better And within the three minutes they're listening to my music or the hour they come to my show, or you know, just whatever I could do to be of service to like the world. So I think with on my mama, seeing the reaction is like a really great start.

Speaker 2

Absolutely, thank you, Victoria Monet.

Speaker 3

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