Listen up wrap right off podcast. Speed Dot's Wilson was getting right into it. Man further Ado Man the independent rap king Pioneer Tech nine and see if that bro Yo Man seventeen albums? Man lost count? Is it seventeen and sixteen? I don't know, man, Swaye told me seventeen yesterday, and I'm like, damn, I don't count because I write my life. Bro, you know what I'm saying. So uh, they say seventeen, I guess the seven and seventeen and twenty tracks in the main, but then you also always
please the fans. Man thirty two in total, two tracks, but if you go to the luxe edition, it's thirty two songs. Yes, sir, it is. Man. They don't make you like, they don't make you like, you know more attack man. I know, man, but I got a I got a huge label, man, and I got a new artist, so I wanted to showcase them with me as well. So on that bonus, you know, they've got songs with me and them. You know what I'm saying. Drange music for people that don't know strange music. And a couple
of Forbes list a couple of times four times. Yeah, it's about to be a fifth and the six I think, especially with this album is about the drop next Friday. Storm. So how proud of you? How prot of you this album? And how what's your approach now, because I mean you made so many music, so much music through the years. Like, yeah, I had to push myself to do the best music, you know what I'm saying. I know if I named it the Storm after my first album in ninety six,
to Calm before the Storm. So twenty years later, you know what, I'm sizzling, I'm still on the incline, which is a blessing. I knew that I would have to go harder than special effects what I did with eminem on there. Right, Yeah, it's like last year, last year, I think it was last year. T I was on there. You know what I'm saying, Wayne and Yo Gotti, everybody was on it. Man. You know it's a big album,
but not just because of the features were humongous. Um, I needed to make it more humongous after that with production, you know what I'm saying, With the content and all that, you know what I'm saying. So I pushed myself to call this is the Storm, like this is this is where I started, This is where I am right now, to solidify me ten more years or more. And it's you know what I'm saying, But you know I was gonna say, but calm before the storm. Listening to it sonically,
it sounds very l A's It was gangster. Yeah, it was gangster. And that's why I had to make most of this album gritty as well. You know what I'm sizzling. Uh. My partner Travis like, what do you mean by gritty? I need to be to tell the producers what's gritty is? You know, we just did Fragile, we just did Go Crazy, and what's gritty? Because we like this, you know, Like, no, it's gonna be gritty in a way that people can hear it though, you know what, I'm sizzling. So I
did a weed song with boys the Man Bud. You got Marshall on there too. I got Marsha m Bro just finally, let's just let's just like me getting an eminem verse because I'm a big Floortry fan. Had always been a big Floortry fan, you know, and uh, I finally got hurt because of the non porter. You know, he did the track. Uh, con artist of detail. You know what I'm saying. He came to Kansa City, made the beat for me. You know what, I'm sizzling and got Marshall on it. I like that, you know what
I'm sizzling? Yeah yeah, is that a casey think that's that's a bar area thing. Now one of your part is from like oh yeah yeah. He's one of the first guys to really embrace you. Right then it was Yuck Mount. It was Yuck Mount. You know what I'm saying with the regime, and uh forty was right there at the same time. You know, I sizzling and uh that's me picking up that lingo being out there in l A. When I got signed with Quincy Jones and
Ninet seven. You know what I'm saying with question one three? He did three yeah first album, Yeah yeah, yeah. He only did music for me ice Cube in Tupac, you know what I'm saying. Of course he did remixes for other people, but he didn't want to do music for nobody but me in Tupac for real, you know what I'm saying. And he did previous ice Cube stuff company yeah yeah, yeah, you know he said that. Quincy said
that right, what you know and people? Yeah, and that's something you stuck even though that didn't work out, you've used that as so of your your personal express Well, you know, me and men Quincy, we were always gonna be you know, family. I'm sorry, man, it's gonna We're gonna always be family. But it's just the people he had working for him at the time, you know what I'm saying, didn't know what to do. What a cluster concuss?
Please me? You know what I'm saying. All right, So we had to flee that situation, but that still has his attention, Like, how does you know, I know Quincy's up to date, you know, you know, embrace a community, but how does that really happen to become his? It was the most ghetto ship that I did at home on the count before the storm. Is a song called Mitch Bade It's like Bitch made backwards, and he said my style reminded him like bebop? What up? Mitch? Is
that our everything thing? For you to act just like a bitch? How does it feel to have a nigga that will kill you? He said, that doesn't remind him a be bob. You know what I'm saying, and he loved it. He loved it. I was mellottic. Have you ever met a nigga who was Pies Brown. That's a lot of slinking niggas where I from. You know. He liked everything I said, johnes like that ghetto a ship, let's go wow. Yeah. And on this new album, so I knew it's on the first album. He had questions
No questions part two Nah, man, that was nah. Everybody was asking about we should do answers out. I said, you know how hard that it was. I I could probably do it. I knew I could probably do it, but I didn't want to really go back, you know. I wanted to do the new me, but still the feeling of the whole spirit of the Calma for the storm, you know what I'm saying, being more gritty, that's the word. The Questions was the song that Wayne told you he
first connected with him. Yeah, yeah, Little Wayne, Yeah Yeah, that's the um. That's the the soundtrack that Big Show got my song on me and QT three song on on Tupac's last screen performance Gang Related. Yeah. So so many millions of people heard that a song called Questions, and that's how Wayne found out and then he said the wake Up Show Anthem as well with Swan King Tell Yeah and Rizon Exhibit and Caress One and Joe Felony and Tino Xhl and Coogi rab it was all
of It's like nine of them. A lot of these rappers don't survive. Tech Man, business man. You've seen them come and go. What do you think you have? That's why I call myself Dracula, you know what I'm saying, or Atta Card Dracula backwards because I've seen the rise and fall of a lot of m c s and I'm still on the incline. I just turned forty five November eight when I was just over in Australia doing my Australia New Zealand run, Like like last week, we're
gonna talk about the earthquakes. Oh yeah, But I've seen a lot of people rising fall and I'm blessed to say that I'm still here and people are still wanting to check for Tech nine and newcomers are coming as well. You know what, I'm sizzling. That's that's a good point because I think about the on the new album The
Storm You Gotta Red Card, I get it now. I get it now, and you seem like you come to grips with who you are finally to but you address this before I can come game still another now because all of the success of Fragile, Hood Go Crazy, you know what I'm saying, and now everybody but me my my new single off of the album. You know what I'm saying, It's like, no matter what characteristic takes off, whether it be the King, the Clown of the G
which it looks like it's the g taken off. You know what I'm saying with Hood Go Crazy and Fragile and everybody but me, but the Clown is like it totally negates everything the King stands for. You know. The King is like, I'm the best at all this ship. I'm I'm killing everything and nothing's higher. You know what I'm saying, I'm the King of rock or whatever. But the Clown is like, you know what, I ain't about to change nothing. I'm still gonna have the painted face.
I'm still gonna be the weird nigga when I'm at the summer jams and ship like that, I come out like me, you know what I'm saying, And I was just like, you know I've seen that success, and I'm like, I get it now. I'm gonna be like this. I ain't gonna never just change the one that's going on up. I'm gonna always be that too, you know what I'm saying.
But I'm gonna do that looking like I looked. Is it also like because you did it your way that it's like I shouldn't betray that, like it's always worth exactly and uh, you know, the the average person might just say, all them other ones, this is what's popping, I'm doing this, but as soon as I do that one thing, I'm gone, that's what I think, you know what I'm saying, and alienates all the other fans, you
know what I'm saying. So you know, some might think, well, what if there's um ten million fans over here, they want to hear that, you know what I'm saying. And you know, I guess the same person would just do that. But I'm not saying, but what what made you? What started the whole thing of painting your face and presenting it yourself in that way and that image because sometimes we get so blinded by images like how did you come up with that image? And why is it why
did it work for you? And why are you stuck with it? It was a myth in Kansas City when we were young. Uh, this thing about the killer clown. I used to they said he drove of a yellow van and he would wait at schools and kidnap kids. But it wasn't real, you know, It's just people kids. We were afraid when we came out of school, we go straight to the bus, you know, because the killer clown might be out there, you know what I'm saying.
It went on for some years, you know, and every time we saw a yellow van, everybody was paranoid, you know, saying wondering was a clown driving if it was gonna kidnap us. But the one thing that I realized, and I was a fear clowns, was I was like when I was a little kid when I went to the Ringling Brother's barnom in Bailey Circus or the era at Trying Circus. You know, the clowns always scared me because I didn't realize. And that's how my brain was thinking
back then when I was young. The smile has painted on I don't know what was behind that mask, you know, saying the mystique of it was intriguing, and as I got older, I turned into something with the help of my best friend Brian Rested so um, he painted my face for the first time in for I was opening with one of my homeboys at a Sea boatsw in Kansas City, Kansas. Yeah, I remember Sea Bow putting people back on the side of the state. Everybody make way
for Tech nine. Everybody respect and make way for technolog you know. And we're from opposite gangs too, you know, saying this crypt is blood over here. So it's like it was always love and family with me and ce Bow and uh, you know, brother Lynch Hung and everybody. You know what I'm saying. He was there as well, you know what I'm saying. And um, when I came out on stage as the clown, you know, I'm saying, everybody bugged out, you know, coming out popping. You know
what I'm saying. I was just doing backup vocals for my dude, Tony Roma, you know what I'm saying. And after that, I was like, I don't ever want to go on stage again without no face paint. I'm gonna become the killer clown lyrically, you know what I'm saying. So I started saying the killer clowns in your town, raising all hell back in the day, you know. So I took on that name, and I took on that image, you know what I mean. And then my best friend who gave me the skull face um, he got killed
to a crime of passion and too. That was in seven you know, the three way murder. You know, I'm saying. It was his girlfriend, Kim used to be married to this dude. They came home like Christmas Eve. He saw somebody moving in the house they had. Kim had her little girl or listen in the back seat. Brian went in, ex husband shot, Brian killed him, went out to Kim and shot her in front of her daughter, and shot herself.
So after that, I surely wasn't gonna take the paint away, you know what I'm saying, Like in honor of Brian Beazel Dennis, I'm gonna where this forever. You know what I'm saying. I'm a I'm anna bang this nuthouse ship forever, because that's what the group that I was coming from was called nuthouse and it taught me how to think different and don't listen to nobody when it comes to how you look or how you dress. You don't want to look like everybody else. You want to stand the
funk out. And that's what I said on I Get it Now, I said, I come to grips with I'll never fit in, So I'm gonna do what the funk I gotta do to stand the funk out, you know. And that's what I've been doing, standing the funk out, you know, even with the independent game and everything starting before a lot of other people and people seeing that our model is working, and it made other people want to do it like hops and you know, I'm sizzling like um chance the wrapper, you know, like you know
what I'm saying. With Khalifa who told me that he saw what we were doing it and motivated him to do it as well. That makes me feel good that we stuck our next out there and show people that you can actually have a lucrative business if you do it the correct way. This way, even though it's harder when you use your own money, taking losses and stuff like that on tours at first, you know what I mean, it's a hard thing, but a lot of people saw us winning and I think That's why the game is
changing a lot and a lot. More people are saying they're independent, you know what I mean, going to an independent route. How does it feel like this year alone? You had two recent successes gold albums and Caribal Lou win you know, Golden two thousand twelve. How does that make you feel? Okay? When Caribal lou went gold and two thousand twelve, I was like, whoa, that makes sense to me, you know what I'm saying. It makes sense to me. I thought a drink song would be big,
but I didn't expect Hood Go Crazy or Fragio. I didn't write Fragile for the radio or none of that, you know what I'm saying. And to get Fragile and Hood Go Crazy at the same time, it floored me, dog, you know what I mean. And it made me feel good because it made me feel like that I'm gonna be here for a longer period of time. Because the kids can lose their attention span is just like that, you know what I'm saying. They can lose interest just
like that. Man, you know what, I'm sizzling. But the way that I've been doing this been showing out for all my fans lyrically, never becoming complacent, you know what I'm saying, or like I'm happy with being on the Forbes list. I ain't want nobody to know I was on the fore did that to me? You know? And you know I'm kind of like quiet, but you know, I don't want everybody to think I'm just big William And the next thing, you know, niggas are trying to rob me and kidnap my kids. Just that and the
other you know what I'm saying, family turning on me everything. Yeah, you know, the family turned on me. All the other things ain't happen, thank god, you know what I'm saying. But uh um, it just made me feel good that getting gold records this late in life and then going more towards platinum. You know, I'm sizzling. Uh It made me feel like I'm gonna be here for a longer period of time and I like that. So did that make you feel like it's time to drop a record?
Like everybody but me? To get that get that narcissistic vibe off real quickly? I had to. I had to. Chris was afraid to play it for me because he thought it was too commercial for me. But It was perfect for me because a lot of fans are a lot of people that talk about me, especially like a world star and all that kind of ship I do. I don't I argue, you don't tend to back, you know, because I'm I'm I'm a regular niggers, all right. I just happened to have this job that puts me somewhere else.
But they always say fuck me, and they funk with everybody else. Techt they say, they say corny because I wear a face paint. Now that kind of corny. This that the other dada you know, So I with this with that. So they say fuck everybody they say they say, they say fuck me, and they funk with everybody else. So I told them, funk everybody but me. Fun everybody but me. That's like fun, y'all, funk everybody but me. Yeah, really good, I'm saying, everybody butt me looking broken, Dusty,
you know what I'm saying. You mentioned like how everyone's embracing the whole d I Y model, and you were one of the pioneers with that. I re member. Back in the day, you had a song called cry Babies about people, you know, complaining about doing it themselves. Do you feel like it's still a lot of that. Now, do you feel like it's less? Uh? I think that. You mean like people doing you're talking about independently. Yeah, I think it's more. I think it's more people jumping
on board. You know what I'm even Prince was before he left, you know what I'm saying. You know, everybody you know was getting tired of the major's. Not saying that the major's don't work, because they do for people. If that's what you're looking for, that's what you do. But I tried the major so many times, you know what I'm saying. Ninety three was my first deal with Jimmy Jimmy Terry Lewis at Perspective and um then ninety seven with Quincy and Question Warner, than with Interscope and
uh J Core. I was done after that, man, I was done. You know, they wanted me to be everybody else they want. They didn't want me to do any original ship. They just wanted me to suck deck. And I don't suck that, you know what I'm saying. And thank god I ran into my partner, Travis. Tell us about him because he stays behind the scenes, but he's very hands on with this whole you guys built this whole empire. Yeah, we don't see. You don't see He's like, h Slim, we don't see Slim. We see baby, we
don't see. Well, if you look at some of my live shows, you can probably see him standing on the side of the stage. You know what I'm saying, Like he looks like security what he he does, and he is watching everything I mean and all black because he comes to all the humongous shows, you know, like when we just sold out Red Rocks at ten thousand on this past tour. Uh, he was there. You'll see him on the side of the stage. If you want to see him, just look at look up some of the
bigger techno shows. You'll see Travis, but he's usually behind the scenes. He he was a millionaire by the time he was nineteen, you know saying what um Uh started with side business with his dad and then it went to furniture works. From there, it's like a furniture repair service.
He had like thirty something stores across you know what I'm saying, the US and m I ran into him, you know what I'm saying, because he was he was funding a clothing company in Kansas City that wanted me to perform one of my big songs, which was playing at Rock to Q back then at a fashion show. And after that he said he wanted to meet me. You know what I'm saying. I went to his house. He said, what does it take, man, I've been a fan of your music all these years. Man, I said,
it takes a lot. He said, well, tech, I have a lot. I got this, Okay, let's go. And I already had my idea to do strange music because I was a big doors fan, you know what I'm saying. When I signed and uh, when I signed with Quincy Jones and seven, they hooked me up with this uh bullshit ass uh publishing company. U went swept Pacific. It was a nice people there, but it wasn't cool. So um, when they asked me what I wanted my publishing name to be, I called it e G in Arts Music,
Entertainment Group nine Music, e G in Arts Music. You know, but when you turned e G in Arts around, it's strange strange music. Always always knew I wanted strange music because of the Doors music. You know, people are strange strange days. So Travis said, you want to start a label, and then I'm like, yeah, I want to Strange music.
I wanted to be the snake in the bat But and he got it to where it was really clean, got got with a couple of artists in the town, and uh, when it came to this, Now it's on everybody's skin and everybody's cars, and you know, it's just spreading, man. And that's the Strange Music story. And we've been in business for sixteen plus years, you know, almost seventeen years. And you guys started out of pocket to a red somewhere, like you guys flended everything on your own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah we did, man. You know, we started in Travis's basement. So all the boxes that were coming of the merch, the hats and the shirts, the first shirts and everything got too much for his basement. He had a nice sized house too back then, and we had to move to like a mini mall, you know, to a warehouse space, and then from that warehouse space to this humongous empire we have now, and then another building you know what I'm saying, we built, you know, saying for our studio,
Strange Land. So we got the headquarters, we've got Strange Land, and we just built onto Strange Land. Um uh uh this uh, this humongous space work where we can have shows and you know, saying, rehearsals and every how crazy is it now? It's crazy? Oh man, it's it's it's like um. On top of that, we have a brand new building. It's called Strange World right now, the Strange Land that it's it's our merchandise facility. So we're making
our own shirts even more now, you know. Yeah man, it's just and now a million dollars studios that yeah, that Strange Land, like yeah, yeah, that's Strange Land. But um where we have actually bought some land to build a bigger headquarters. And we're gonna turn this headquarters that we have now into a distillery so we can sell cariboulu caset maybe sprockets, you know what I'm saying, and whatever liquor we may do, you know what I'm saying.
So we're steadily growing and it's a blessing. Every time I come home, I look at it all like no fucking way, you know. But we're end this. We're end it now, you know, I'm saying. So keeping it all, keeping the keeping this new big house that I got.
You know what I'm saying, it's Travis is as strict as they say, because I read somewhere that like he keeps this nine thick rule book of because we've been we've done two wors, and we funked it up for all the new guys coming in, because we've messed up everything along the way, you know, like sucking up hotels. You know what I'm saying, you can't do this. It's five five hundred dollar fine. You can't do this. You know what I'm saying. You can't flood the whole fourth floor.
You know what I'm saying, because I did that before on accident. After like three offenses, you're off the tour, right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. So what's the book that has It's a tour rule book. You know we always before a tour we're going tour, whoever's going we sit there and we all go over all the rules. You know, we all we know all the rules because we made the rules, you know what I mean. So everything that's been sucked up over the years is
in the rule book. No this, no that, no that. If you're gonna smoke, you gotta sit up front, uh, and by the driver and open the window if you smoke cigarettes. You know what I'm saying, We try to respect people, you know, saying the um the crew can't drink. That's the only thing. The crew, you know what I'm saying, Like Carrible Louis ca c T. Yeah, the artists, artists drink, you know, the crew. Crew can't drink. That's hard. You know, that's hard, not even at the end of the day.
You know, it's not even on an off day, because it's happened, you know, in Vegas and niggas fuck up. You know what I'm saying. You can take it to jail in Vegas because we're too drunk. And it's a lot that kind of you know, everything happened over the years. So that's what's in the rural books mentioned, like some one of you, I read that the you know, the tour wasn't turned the point even in the business because in the two thousand and one tour, you know, things
weren't going good. You blew a lot of money and you almost overdosed on pills and stuff. Yea, dealing with all that adversity, Like how were you able to like, you know, the dark days of strange music, like having this intention, like how do you think you guys? Overcame those kind of early setbacks. I had an outlet. I got to write about it. I didn't hold it in. You know what I'm saying, Everything that we were going through, I turned it into my music. You know what I'm saying.
He popped fifteen hits of Action one night, licked Big Tits, had text with some dikes. You know what I'm saying. It's like, that's these real story, and uh, I just turned it into something positive and it spread to fans that went through the same thing, you know what I'm saying. And I learned that from Quincy. You know right what you know when people will forever feel you. So I started writing my life. So when we're losing all those hundred thousands of dollars on those first tours, you know
what I'm saying. Travis knew that if we could kept pushing money at it, that it would catch because he knew that we had something special, just like I knew. And it's harsh. It's hard when you spend that much money and you don't get it back, you probably don't want to do it again. And that's where a lot of people fail because it's like the dope game. If it ain't working out, we ain't doing it no more, you know what I'm saying, dope men, mentality or whatever.
But we kept throwing money at it, you know what I'm Sayzling. We paid to be on the the jay Z Tour, the Spright Liquid Mixed Tour, you know, back in the day, you know saying early two thousand, you know what I mean. We uh went on with jay Z any r D. That's how I'm met for real, um Hooper Stank. It was a rock band three eleven and was headlining on alongside with jay Z. Who else was on at Nappi Roots was on That's how I met uh Anthony Hamilton's you know sizzling. It was like
a really good tour that we paid to beyond. But it paid off because because the people who started coming to my show. I was on the second stage too. People were coming to my show early in the day, like two o'clock. Even Jade him would be coming out peaking, you know what I'm saying. And Uh, after that tour, we went back to those cities and people started coming. It worked, But what I'm saying, what was a motivating factor to keep, you know, keeping moving because during those
dark times things didn't clicked. We believed we had something special, you know what I'm saying. We believed we we saw the people that we were infecting already, even though it wasn't enough. You know, when we first did our first show at San Diego, it was only seven people in the audience, and that was including my security. They did the show with us on stage. It was nobody out there. Everybody was on stage, just going. But next time we
came back it was fifty people. Next time we came back it was a hunt it And next time we came back at four hunting and then we started selling out the House of Blues. And you know what I'm saying, it's a gradual grind. Yeah, yeah, And that's what we did, the gradual grind. And I think that's why we're still here, man, you know what I'm saying, because it's been gradually growing. And now since I shot Beyond the Stars on the last album, I'm using this album The Storm to gain
planet status. I don't want to be a star no more. I want to be a planet. Is that is that the reason why you tour so much in two thousand and now you did two d and four shows. Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I did. Um, I did so many shows and I still do a lot of shows, and they're growing and they're getting bigger. You know what I'm saying.
It's still some places we ain't been. Like on this last tour, we went to some places whereas hardly nobody there, Like we have to start over, like a place like Lafayette, Um, Louisiana or something like that, and never been. You know, it was harsh, you know, man, But you gotta be able to put aside your kingdom and do that ship just like you started. A lot of dudes can't do that, you know what I'm saying, Like, no, I ain't doing the shows. Only twenty people out there, we leaving. We're
taking the money. That's how you end up there. You know what I'm saying. You can't tell about money without doing the show, you know what I'm saying. Um, so those are recent experiences, like you'll humble yourself in those. Just do it. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. We we we did the gradual thing and um Canada where it's grown humongous now, you know what I'm saying, and we just keep on going, bro, you know what I mean. And it's my habitat. So you know, my
kids have grown now. So you know, my youngest is seventeen. She's about to be a team March. You know I'm saying, Uh, you know my other two, Aliyah, she's in her fourth year college about to graduate. You know what I mean. That's my Berkeley. Yeah, no, it's it's it's it's near Berkeley. You know what I'm saying. She said, Daddy, it's kind of Berkeley, but it's like, yeah, middles College, middles College. You know, I'm so not She calls it Oakland. You
know what I'm saying. So um, And my son just turned twenty two and Leah's twenty two, and you know, it's like, there's my habitat. I work for them. You know, I'm sizzling, And I worked for the love of my fans and for my sanity as well, and my colleagues. You know what I'm saying, because Chris Calico he needs
that love as well. You know what I'm saying. Not to say we don't have love at home, because we do we got a lot of love for my loved ones, but um, being to take care of your loved ones because these people love you so much as a blessing. So I was your family life doing these days. Ivy was recently and she just got out of the hospital. Finally she she made it through it getting shot through the lung. You know what I'm saying, Um, straight bullet.
You know my niece didn't make it. She just got killed. UM a couple of weeks ago, Pretty was her nickname, saying, Uh, that was an assassination. You know what I'm saying. They said the guy let off thirty two shots within the cars, all girls in the car. You know, you know her ex boyfriend that died his twin killed her. So it seems deep, you know what I'm saying, super deep. That wasn't what was like the process? You know you I
know you lost your mom. You know you know you wrote with the song I can never pronounce a lack of romosa. Lack romosa. I know you've addressed. You know that you had records for your my mom and them and things like that. How therapeutic was that for you to get that up? I needed that therapy. You know what I'm saying. I needed I needed to be able to vent to God about Mama because she was so
God fearing. And I'm like, tell me something like that's why I wrote, Oh yeah, intervention, Like, oh yeah, They're supposed to be huh. You know what I'm saying, all right? You know, um, I need that arapy man. You know what I'm sizzling this, This is this is the way that I treat myself. You know what I mean, because if you keep it bottled up, you'll go crazy. You know, the same thing with Chris Calicoe. He has the worst problem mentally. I think I'm the most zen though out
of all of us. I'll be trying to teach man, you don't have to be so turned up on it. You don't have to be so angry. Man, just trying to find your zin space. You know, when he's trying telling him to find American medical marijuana. He ain't smoked it yet, We ain't we found a strain for him yet. You know, straight he deserves in because he's so talented, you know what I mean. But but your mom was
always amused, right, yes, yes, about my whole journey. It's been about my sick Mama and then Lupus finally took her on June six, and uh, at first, I was like, I was feeling like she was cheated. But you know, after my friends that had not i'm a snuck into Kansas City and met with me and Travis at a location you know where nobody could see. Is Uh. They taught me that energy never dies, it just transfers. And yeah, they called upon me for for um a mission and
I accepted. We ain't carried out the mission yet, but we carried out carried out one thing called the New Renaissance. We carried out one thing, but this other thing is humongous. You know what I'm saying. It's supposed to affect all people on the planet. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, a lot of people, A lot of people, a lot of people. You know what I'm saying. We just have to make sure I wasn't gonna become a flight risk like some of them, you know, because I need to
go make money, you know what I'm saying. And if they labeled my people terrorists, you know, they might labeled me the same, you know, and I'm not you know, I don't mean no harm and nobody. We ain't trying to blow nothing up or harm anybody, which trying to love everybody and show everybody that we're all connected pretty much, you know what I'm saying. Because UM things divide us, like UM culture and religion, and you know what I'm saying,
just totally different. You know, skin tone divide us and men divide us. And we're just trying to show that everybody is connected. Not to say that everybody's going to change their mind when they see this or hear this, but you know it's worth a try. So they taught me that energy never dies, just transfers. And I felt that extra energy, extra love in my chest after my mom passed, you know what I'm saying. I saw the moon smiling at me a couple of times, like at
my tripping. I know, I ain't smokeing nout right, but just seeing stuff. Man, because the one thing at first I think he was upset because you had planned to see her. He was on two week Kendrick, I think, and then you missed the day she passed and I was supposed to do this the big show UM eighteen thousand people at UM Fiddler's Grain in Denver, and then I had an off day to go see Mom off you know what I'm saying. They're saying she's not gonna And when I landed in Denver on June six, Travis
told me she's already gone. I was like, oh my god, you know, and they're I was gonna have to cancel that show and do that, you know what I'm saying. And that was my first idea, you know what I'm saying. It was a big show. But I was like, God favors me, is what I felt, So I can go do this show and see Mom the next day. Didn't happen that way. I was upset because all this time I thought I was being favored. You know what I'm saying,
I'm just regular, you know what I'm saying. So after I found out that energy never dies and it transfers, you know what, I'm swizzling, and we've watched all this this this thing they set up, you know, for us to see the whole spectrum of what we're trying to do with Anonymous. So I was like, Jesus, you know this is beautiful because I'm about uniting people and that's all they want to do. On the God's Speed Record, TiO. You mentioned another family member, Uncle, What was his importance
to you? That sounds so cool. He sounds cool, Uncle, Like, that's got to be a cool brother. My dad left when I was five, you know, he left to go to l A and become l A p D. You know what I'm saying. So I lost him back then, but I've seen him every once in a while. He'd come back, like when I was fourteen and when I was twenty two months, you know what I'm saying, and you know, periodically come back home and I kick it with him. You know. But my uncle Ike was there
from birth all the way up to Napa's father. Brother. Now that's my mother's mother on the other side, so it's like, um, that was like my dad. So that's why he has a master bedroom in my new beautiful house. Whenever he comes in from working on the oil field and Pittsburgh, you know, he comes to k C for a couple of weeks and he got that place. Yeah, other women, you said, it's like the other mother Ruby, who's that? Oh that's my my wife's mom. Yeah, my
other mother. Damn man, you know about that. That's on Waking Bake. Listen, man, Jesus, you know past. Yeah, man, uh, I still owe Ruby Lejune something. You know what I'm saying for taking me in like she did when I had no place to stay and you know, moved in with my wife and her mama. You know, when I had nothing. You know what I'm saying. That we had our first baby and we were living there with her mama when I was working on my craft, you know,
and I didn't have nothing. I just me and the fifty seven Street Row Dog Villains just doing Lets get funked Up and it's own now, just putting out music, trying to get yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So you know, Ruby believed in what I was doing, even when my wife was like, if you don't got no job by Za September, you gotta get out. And I'm like, I'm going to l A then peace, you know what I'm saying.
And you know I ended up moving them to l A. And then when we separated in two thousand five, I moved back to Casey, you know what I'm saying, And they stayed out there and my my, my ladies are l A girls now, you know what I'm saying, Like my two girls and their mama you know what I mean, they're still out there. It was saying part of the lake because you wanted to it to come out September nine, Right, Yeah, I missed the date. Man, something that I'm still going
through that. You know what I'm saying that that's harsh. You know what I'm saying, because you know, you know it's just harsh. But I missed it because I wanted to make a perfect storm and I wouldn't have had the I wouldn't have had the the song with Marcia Ambroses if I put it out September nine. It was a pretty date. It was it was perfect pretty date. We're gonna try to do it. I told Travis, we're gonna do that one. You know what I'm saying. But
the production has to come, you know what. I'm sizzling. So by the time it was ready that date was coming, I was like, I'm not done. I wouldn't have had the Gary Clark Jr. Feature. I wouldn't have had the Corn feature. I wouldn't have Marcia, I wouldn't have problem. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't ready. It wasn't ready. It wasn't ready, so we had to push it back to December nine, and uh, just to say I'm sorry
I gave my fans on September nine. You know, I'm saying three songs a song out of each level Kingdom, I gave him everybody but me the most narcissistic song. Fuck everybody but me, you know, Um Clowntown, I get it now. It's like I'm me fun everything you know, and uh, ge Zon, what if it's me? You know what I'm saying, Like I fit the description to you
know what I'm saying, I'm blooded. Gezon is like where the G the king un of the G. You know what I'm saying, Gez on the gentleman, the o G gangster. You know what I'm saying, the guy that respects life because he's seen so much death in the blood neighborhood and and um, you know, disrespect and now super respectful, you know what I mean, and learned respect. That's the G. You know what I mean. So G Zone has the more um street music and meaning for music, you know
what I'm saying. And I think it's a well rounded album too. Man. You know, I think everybody's gonna have something on there, you know what I mean. And that's why we've let out like seven songs already because we got thirty two of them up. What if it was me? That's what we do. The video with the cops, the cops and Altin Sterling kind of yeah, it was only saying to think about Alton Sterling was people what he
had on. He had on a red T shirt and khaki shorts, you know, brown, and that's that's our game, colors and our hood. So I'm like, damn, even I fit the description. What if it was me? You know, they wrote him off because they said he had a bad pass and everything. You know, they wrote him off. I'm like, but what if it was me? Though, you
know you love me? What if it was me? Because I fit the description too, And I recognize that it's fear on both sides, and I feel like, if we didn't fear each other, we can stand near each other. But people are so scared of what they don't what they can't control, and what they don't understand, so they attack it, you know what I'm saying. So you're taking, you know, a young police officer from the suburbs and throwing them into the ghetto to try to be a mediator,
you know, what I'm saying. They ain't ready for that. You know what I'm saying that all they know is what they see on TV. You know. And uh, if they knew these people, if they lived in the communities, and they knew these cats, and they knew you by your first name, and they knew your mama, if you was drunk on the corner tripping with somebody, they wouldn't be I don't think they'd be so gung holder be scared and put the trigger. Call your name, like, yo,
you don't go home, you know what I'm saying. Instead, but we're so scared of each other. We don't know what each other is gonna do, So every man for himself. I'll get you before you get me. Fear is the reason, you know. And uh, people don't want to come together.
A lot of people do. But I tell people. I tell people lately, I say, the only way that all people on this planet are gonna come together is if an alien comes about and makes it to where we're not the top of the food chain, you know what I'm saying, And they're attacking us and we have to fight them together. Maybe the alien you can help you and your ex wife, Man because what I wanted to know is that she did the record buttont hoole examples
exasperate the situation between you and her. No, man, we've been separated since two thousand five and I met two of her boyfriends. I ain't trimming on none of that. I don't give a funk about none of that, because it's like, you know, you hit out, you know, a couple of dirty laundry on that. Yeah, I said, wife after after I did and skied it. Yeah, but that was back in the day that Yeah, but you do you do you say that I'm putting it so much. You put your life in your music, and that's the
diputed for you. But then there's the price you have to pay, right because how it affects others exactly. I think you had said something that she had your wife not keep hopping on your wife. But she had said back then that she didn't like that people people partying to her. Yeah, like this ring. So after I did, I love you, but you years ago, uh, years after that, she said, don't write nothing else about me positive. I said, okay, sorry,
but I did. When I did Blunting the Hole, I said, okay, this is what I said, I sent it to her just like ha ha ha. You know what I'm saying. That's when we were talking. You know what I'm saying, not anymore as I arrest, still on your back. No, I paid all that ship and they got they took it like over a million dollars from me, man, because you know, I made the cost to be a boss. I hadn't paid taxes from ninety seven to twenty. Yeah, but I had somebody else take that down. Trum stupid.
I was stupid and let somebody else take care of it. You know what I'm saying. It wouldn't take care of you know what I'm saying. So I'm the stupid nick yet so I had to. I had to learn on my own, like this is what's gonna happen. You can go to jail or you can pay this. I'm like, I'm not going to jail. I got kids. You know I'm paying that. We paid in a couple months. Like you said that, that's when the government want the sums that I send it. Yeah, and a couple of months
I'm done. And replantics was just stunting real quick. You know what I'm saying. What I said, I got a couple of government. Yeah, but I also I want to talk about you know, you mentioned him earlier, Chris Kylico, Like, he's to me one of the most diversified. Is so diverse, man, What's what's so special about him? The fact that he's Luther Vandross Rick James Prince and still can do a song with me and eminem and holds me yes and murder.
You know, He's just a totally complete musical situation. And you know, we just got to get the world to know Tech nine and Chris Calicota strange music. And uh. I don't like to think that my imagery is what's been holding us back, but it's been coming up. You know what I'm saying that people are scared of you. You know what I'm saying. Huh, It's like I'm a nice guy. Look I'm talking about on stage, you know. You know what I'm saying, I'm sinister, n That's how
I feel normal. You know, I'm going stage like this, I feel naked. You know, I'm just a weirdo. And uh, but we're about to take it to another level to where I'm gonna make that imagery and our uniform and everything go down in history, man. But what I'm saying good things that gets The challenge with Strange music is to develop kind of that second pure star. And that's what's happening, you know what I'm saying. Um, Stevie Stone is coming, Ritz is coming, Mayday is coming. Chris Calico
is right there with me. You know what I mean a lot of things are about to change. It's strange, man, We're about to have some more assistance, you know saying with people really want to help, you know what I'm saying. And Uh, I'm excited about it. Um, I'm excited about UM doing the bigger shows because people want to help. They see what we're doing, and people want to help, you know what I'm saying. And that's a beautiful position to be in, because UM, teamwork makes the dream work.
Of course, But as far as increasing your star power, your visibility, I think of the Car to four, You're on the wreck with Andre and Wayne, exactly what did that help? What did that do for you? Um? Career wise?
I guess Um, I started seeing more of my people coming back to the shows after the Car to four and after the Kendrick song and after Heo Go Crazy and I was happy because I wanted to be a melting pot, you know, saying some black folks come to the technology show, like I don't want to be around all the white people, you know what I'm saying. And it's like, but it's turned into a melting pot, like it's supposed to be. My music is for everybody, you know what I'm saying. O. G. Muggs told me it
was a um. His boy was in the um in the pa in talking to the skinhead and he was like, how he don't really fun with niggas, but he had a Tech nine tat. Mos. Boy was like, but you got a Tech nine tat that's strange music. He's black and he's like, yeah, but he's not white like that. You know, he's different. Yeah, I'm different, but I'm the same. I'm Tech nine. It's a blood gang nigger, you know. But I just have a different um taste for music, I guess, you know, always have been since I was
a kid. And uh, you know because my niggas in the hoods like man the turn that white an like that. You know, Jimmy Hendrix, you know, um, Jannis Joplin, you know, you know, I was you know it was already old by the time I was born, like Jim Morrison. Jim Morrison died the year I was borne. So, um, it's like I found a lot of that music because of
my parents, you know what I'm saying. You know, my uncle Ike, you know what I'm saying, knowing a lot of rock and roll as well because where he worked, you know, at school board gospel in my house, because of my grandmother and my Auntie Zita, I mean Auntie Susie, Shirley, Caesar, Matt Mighty Clouds and Joy all that, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know R and B with my R and BN wrap with my uncle Ricky, you know, saying Ike's um
younger brother, you know. So it's like my my dudes was always like turn that white bullsh it off, manute loud ass yelling at Ship. We don't listen to that. I'm like, yes, we do, here, we do, you know what I'm saying. And then later on in the years that blood Gang, you know, my my O G school was enjoying like Ship. So like the system of a down and some of the slip knot Ship. You know, as a kid, is it true that you really got mo listed by your teacher. Damn you remember that. I'm
not a saint. It's in that song, seventh grade teacher. Every once in a while, it was a lady. It was for the record. It was a looked, she looked wonderful. She was she was twenty one or twenty two or something like that. And uh, but I was in love though you were in the seventh grade time, right, Yeah, I was in her class. Oh my god. Yeah. But uh, you know it's not a painful memory. Nah, it ain't a painful memory. And I can't really talk about it.
Every once in a while I'll go back into that black box in the back of my head and take out something real funk up and give you a little bit of it. And that was one of them. I have so many more because I've seen so much ship in my life because exclusive you gotta break her to the show the thing. I haven't seen her since that. But I the things in that black hurt a lot
of people. You know what I'm saying. I did some bad things, you know what I'm saying to become a good dude, A really good dude, you know what I mean. And uh, you know, you gotta be careful when you let out of that black bend and when I almost said her name on That's why I said, I'm not about to, you know, just incriminate that woman. She was wonderful.
Thank you. Do you think that for Soto, that the perception of who you are happened like with the Angelic album, because people thought you were like this devil worship birthday happened. It happened then because Angelic was when that dropped. That past five years, I rapped about all that, you know what I'm saying, um, and I wanted. I grew up in a Christian house and my mom made a Muslim when I was twelve, so I started studying Islam when I was twelve to seventeen when I ran away from home. Uh,
it's gonna be biblical. So I was intrigued with hell, purgatory in heaven. So I painted that picture. This is a good guy looking into the well of temptation. If you go into the well and temptation, you're gonna fall into hell where the demons are there with drugs and pussy and you know, alcohol, and if you accept that, the result is the beast. And that's when I had on that, you know, that suit that was from Tales from the Hood. You know this ain't the terra jone neither.
Welcome to Hell, motherfucker. That was the same suit. You know what I'm saying, screaming Matt George did all that. You know what I'm saying. And uh, people saw me in the devil suiting like aha, and black folks, you can't do that. But I didn't give a funk. I was just expressing my spirituality, like I'm a good guy going bad. I'm doing all these drugs and pictures and everything. I don't know what I'm gonna do, y'all. You know
what I'm saying. I'm the result is the beast. I don't want to make a beast of myself, and I have myself as the angel looking into the well of temptation, falling into lust and ship and the beast. All they saw it was the beast. We don't play with religion. I wasn't playing. I was just showing. You know what I'm saying. But you know that's why I said. And all, you ain't supposed to put on your devil suit when you come up in the church, young man. So when
did your bob feel about that? Being that she was a devout Christian. She didn't. She's like, maybe, why you gotta go to crazy route? You know, and I've been through that? Why you gotta go through that? You know? Uh, you know, like um the nuthouse, you know, with us having the six six triple A forty six nine and three up beside us and across this. You know, She's like, you gotta wear hospital scrubs. I went through that. I
was in psychiatric wars. I used to go visit her psychiatric wards and stuff like that when I was younger. So she didn't want me to go that route. She always wanted me to do it for Christ. So every once in a while I'll do a song for Christ on my album and the and the song the song on there on this new album is called Need Jesus's pointing towards the people that say the I need Jesus because I like dark movies or horror, or I need Jesus because they think I'm Illuminati, whatever the funk that is.
You know what I'm saying, it's successful, I need Jesus, I have Jesus, You need Jesus, leave me the funk alone. But it don't have no cursing in it. You know what I'm saying, And it's me Stevie Stone during the chorus and my new artists to be just signed Jail of Behood. And he used to be a Christian rapper before, so I knew that he could tell his story about how the church exiled him because he wouldn't have a
baby that they thought should be born. And the baby died within the girl and they said it's gonna be a miracle baby. And so it did not work, you know what I'm saying. So he left her and they kicked him out the church. I knew he could speak on it, and he did. He murdered everything, you know what I'm saying. So I would say on this album, I got I got a gospel song, Uh I need Jesus. I got a blue song with Gary Clark Jr. You
know what I'm saying. I got R and B shipped with um Marcia Ambrosius and a big one from Boys Too men, you know what I'm saying. And I got that dance dance ship with Problem and it's just everything together. And I got that medal ship with Corn. It's well rounded, man, you know what I'm saying. One day, hopefully on this album, I'll be able to throw a big festival to where all those people I just named will all perform. You
know what I'm saying. I'm gonna say, you just did a whole series of collapse, but your collapse game is just crazy, like at this point, like, who haven't you worked with it? You still still haven't worked without cast and Chris Calico. We got to, we got to. I had one for them on this album, but the song I wanted to remake craft work with having it, you know I'm saying out there toward the France, And we got three thousands, so that kind of yeah. But that
was a surprise. Wayne didn't tell me he was putting Andrea on it until he came to Kansa City, said you want to hear your song on my album before it come out. It was about to come out in like a day. I'm like, yeah, playing for me. That ship came on, I'm like, thank you. And he told me that Andre said who was that? And when he said Tech nine and he said, Andre said damn. And
that made me feel good. That made me feel good because when you bet him in Rikers, that's when you guys first out of real conversation, right, I just came out here to do press like this. But he had said prior that he wanted to do a song with Tech nine, and you know what I'm saying. And I just came out here and it wasn't it wasn't scheduled. I said, I want to go say thank you to that man. And we end up talking for like three hours, he said, when I get out of song. And he
didn't lie. He didn't lie, your real dude, man, not because he did that, because he didn't have to do none of that. He ain't got a text me back every time I sent him a naked pictures like what do you think about this? Tight? Believe that or something
like that. You know, he was saying, like when some in Miami because he pulled up in the Buggatti or something that he did as he did put up in his Bugatti and I saw him and that that orange suit seemed like he was supposed to be there, and so when he put up in the bugatti, I was like, that's how he's supposed to. Yeah, so outcast is on the wishless who else So anyone else in particularly been
trying to get with Ja for a minute. I had a song called Weefy for him on this one, but we ran out of time, and I'm glad we did because I had I did the first verse and I was gonna pass it to Jay through Jay Brown. J Brown was quarterback in it for me, you know what I'm saying. But j was on uh tour with Beyonce or something like that, and uh, we just ran out of time. As my tour started. I'm like, Jay, what's up.
He's like, man, he's still gone. I'm like, okay. So I finished those two verses too, Weefy, and I'm glad I did because I didn't know I had them versus in me. And it's just so beautiful when y'all hear that record and y'all hear Weefy, it's really WiFi. But we've been calling the weefy ever since we went to Paris in two thousand and ten. We checked into our hotel,
it was rinky dink, you know what I'm saying. It was so small that when we opened our hotel door, the dude was at the desk right there, and Chris Calico is like, hey man, I got WiFi. I got WiFi. I got WiFi here, and he's like, wife, I white, white, I don't know WiFi. And Chris said, you know wi fi? Man. He's like, no, no, no, wife, I don't know what WiFi. And he said, you know like computers, phone. He's like, oh, we fee yeah, we got Of course they caught a
weefy there. So you know, we're in college the weefly ever since, and everybody can't say that the weefy. The WEEFI means, if you're the weefy, you're putting his on. You get him connected, you know what I'm saying. So I get all my artists connected. I take him all over the road the world with me. I get him connected. You know what I'm saying. People need me. I'm the weefy, y'all. Get him on movies and TV, connecting Scooby and Stevie
straight from Missouri to Fiji. You know what I'm saying. Like, that's real. You know what I'm saying. Like, so j can say he's the he's the weefy. You know what I'm saying. Because he put on Yea and uh Rihanna. He put people on. You know what I'm saying. Um, Yea can say he's the Weefy. I wanted Jay to passage yeah after he did it, you know, since it would be to watch the throne type of thing. You know what I'm saying, because you know, Uh Kanye is
indeed the Weefy. Uh t I is the WEEFI. But we worked on the last album, um at least like a fifty six K mode M. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna edit that out. So so not too many niggas can say they're the Weefly, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, googy Man can say he's the Weefly. What I'm saying. Jeezys, you can say he's the Weefly. You know what I'm saying. But it ain't too many artist Wayne is the Week, But we don't work so much, you know, so it wasn't too many people. I can
go to yourself. You said, I'm going for which one of your niggas are the weefe saying how many more niggas are wee fee? You know what I'm saying, Like uh Slug from Atmosphere, he's the Week. He didn't put other people on Brother Ali and you know what I'm saying, But it's not a lot you know of people that say they're the weefly. I'm the Weekly for real, you know what I say. So I went for J and
I went for you, but it didn't work. So I did the other two verses and it's killer man, you helped another jail all out to Jay Rock, like, well, what was that situation? And was it? And then why didn't he moved? Was it amicable split? Like, oh, yeah, it was, it was, it was. It was. We just got him out of a bad situation at Warner They just had him sitting Yeah, Jay Rock, you know, so we got him out of that deal and got him over and got his first album out, you know what
I'm saying. Um and took him on tour a couple of times, you know, saying to get people to know who he was. And that's how we met Kendrick, you know what I'm saying, Because uh m J got killed on that tour. His heype man, his family. That's why Kendrick had to come out and fill in. You know, he got killed in um Reno. That's why we'd be like, I don't you know what I'm saying, Because some niggas
that weren't even at the show. It was across the street like three o'clock in the morning, and when the show was over at like eleven something, but we still parked in the alley, you know what I'm saying, waiting to go to the next spot, you know, And uh, I guess MJ got off the bus to speak to his woman, because you ain't trying to call you a
woman when everybody got bitches on yea. So they went out there and walked on the strip, you know, right there, and then niggas came over, three of them, is like you're already and tried to square up with him. You know, he had on a red Jay Rock shirt. MJ was a crip, you know, he was just Jay Rocks hype man. So they just saw the red and thought it was like, okay,
we're gonna get one of nick niggas. So my boy cut Calhoun came out and saw them scoring up with him, and he said, we are trying to jump on my boy and wanted The dudes just shot MJ like six times right there. He was alive for like a week or so. I was talking to him like real niggas don't die, and a blood clock killed him. Some days later. You know, that was the hardest thing deal because we never had nobody die on our tour, you know what
I'm saying. You know, we told her his mama, Jay Rock told his mama, I get him back home, you know, And it was hard. Man. Kendrick got on the tour and he gave me that section eight I think it was eighty sex and eight or six eight. Yeah, gave me that h c D. It was like a burnt c D. And listened to it. I'm like, so I got him on all sixes and sevens when nobody know. He was like, I just don't be paying a lot of fings gonna be paying attention like that. It's incredible.
I like that, man, um if I put him on that one with me and my um, with Uncle Ike's son Marcus Yates because he's a hardcore MC and uh, we all did all of music together. And then the next year we did Fragile and he was he going him on tour. That's how he met met was doing your tour Yea during the l A date. Yeah yeah, yeah, he was on our tour. Man. Uh, I appreciate all that, man, you know what I'm saying. All the love that everybody give us over the years. Man, And how Kendrick Nam
still show big love when we run into each other. Man, he has a show and we have a show somewhere. He has an early, bigger show and we go get on the side of the stage like he tech nine, what's up? What's up? You know, it's all of the top the same way. It's a lot of love, Man, Schoolboard que him and Casey was you know, the only one I really ain't met more than once was saw you know what saying? He's cool too, you guys the lyrical monsters. Yeah, how did that style develop? Like this,
your lyrical style, like the chopping kind of style. I think is us being right in the middle of everything, the heartland, you know what I'm saying, the Midwest, Man, We're right in the middle. So we're gonna get it from the east. We're gonna get it from the west. We're gonna get it from the south. And when you combine all that together, it comes out like follow me, I'll run the planet of run to come out of
the cology. They can never manage but damage. We know, apology pick them out the panic a little man, because I gotta be you know, saying it's like musical overload, you know what I'm saying, like everything, Yeah, yeah, and Twist was like the first person that we saw that was rapping fast other than us, you know what I'm saying. It was like he came out with tongue Twisted. Look, let's do it on TV. You know what I'm saying. That's crazy because my first round at eighty five and
the seventh grade was now stopping rapping. Then they get eighty five, but when the money down dropping, emp Cy rappers went to crop. But it was like that, you know what I'm saying, and everybody else was rapping like ell j I'm devastating and I'm they didn't. So it's always been like that. And then when I started he Buzzy, it got better, you know. But that's like your signature that with the world Wide Chopper series though, like the fastest rappers, like yeah, yeah, yeah, I started with some
years back. Um, I think the first Midwest Choppers was on MLK Misery Loves Company, you know, and then the second one I think was on another collabos with Crazy Bone and guy named kay Dean. Then we did Worldwide Choppers with Buster and twist the big one. So I wanted the last one because I'm like, I can't keep doing it. It's hard to write, yea, dude, you know what I'm saying. But um, I wanted to go big,
so I did my verse. I'm the Fury of the Final Fighter flipping on Froger lyn fellis fufilling Fighter flicking on fire, finish Ione to flow and flight filing and fakeers falling flo on the phone to five. Sent that ship to Eminem and it was more to it, but it was just how I started with all the fs, you know, and he's like, fuck yea, Eminem. Ship was just like I can't It's just too much, and just had to show that he can do everything in one
you know what I'm saying. But it makes me feel good that what me and Chris Kalico sent him pushed him to do something that crazy. It even sounds like English after a while, but it was great for wrapping,
you know. I was like, damn what but I saw something recently, those like you like people been calling a lot of new rap mumble rapp and you was like, you know, don't be a hater though, like you can't get lyrical styles talk about that just because we call ourselves master rappers, and people know that we are elitist when it comes to rhyme. And I don't mean that we gotta hate on Young Tug or a little Susie Fur or one Savage or um little YACHTI you know
what I'm saying, little boat or whatever. You know what I'm saying, This is the the people that the kids want to hear, you know what I mean. I just went to a One Savage and Young Thug show last week in Kansas City for the first one. I want to see if they compact the house, and they did, kids from all different walks of life. I'm like, damn, it was a melting pot. Was gangsters in there. It was white folks, it was Mexicans, it was Asians, it was everybody. Oh man. And I didn't know a lot
of the songs. IM like, damn, you know, I knew some thug songs, but when um, you know, twenty one Savage, I'm just starting on my ex bed and everybody fucking I was like, yeah, that's tight. You know, I congratulate man. You know, I'm sizzling because I'd have been here during the rise and fall of a lot of MC and
I'm gonna be here long after whoever talk to. You know what I'm saying, But I like to enjoy what they're doing for music, you know what I'm sizzling because sometimes we laugh at a lot of the music, you know what I'm saying, But that don't mean we don't enjoy it. You know, when Young Thug first came out, I was laughing like a mom, like what did you say? Thing? I went on Instagram like over a loud, over loud, overloud, your milty? How he made like grow now it was
big like a town. Yeah, I'm like, what did you say that? I had to go look at it. It's like he said, overload, over loud. Overload, kid, it's overload. You know I had to go look. I was interested, but I put it on the people and he's making fun of young Dog. I'm like, sort of, but I really wanted to know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And then I start paying attention and then a lot of his melodies I start really liking. So I want to see the nigg alive and uh, I enjoyed it, man,
you know what I'm saying. Um, I don't hate on it. I don't think that. You know, they should have talked about Soldier Boy when he came out because these are O g motherfucker's. You know what I'm saying. You just do yo do do your lane. You know what I'm saying. Because hip hop is everything it's always been with Master p for came out and nigga's talk shit when um, when Soldier Boy first came out, niggas talked ship, when D four L came out, motherfucker's talk shit. You know
what I'm saying. It's gonna always be people to say that ain't real hip hop. That's what you think hip hop should be. If you think hip hop is NAS, then you do that. That's beautiful. We love NAS. You know what I'm saying. If you think hip hop has tribe, I couldn't wait to get that record. Yes, I love that. But just because they do it a different way in w A does does it a different way? You know
what saying? Public Enemy does it a different way? You know what I'm saying than uh, what Little Yadi might do, you know saying, or what my future might do, or or all the me goes might do. You know what I'm sizzling or designer. I don't mean the thing a part of us. They're part of young people that's trying to come up out of poverty doing music instead of killing each other. I'm all for it, bro, you know what I'm saying. I ain't hating. Yeah, I'm a negative.
Takes time to put my rhymes together and ship. But just because they don't do the same thing, don't mean I gotta hate on them. Nigga. Let him get money and made a made a made the best man win. And I guess it's gonna show itself right if if if they if they have the talent, they're gonna survive in his business. And if they don't, it's not either gonna go away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So, and I'm not looking for the death of none of them.
I'm looking for, you know, life for all of them. So you know, but they don't mean we can't laugh at the ship. Well we get out of here, man, your model though, I want I want to brace them. Man, Explain what happy as fuck means to you. Happy as Fuck was given to me by this guy by the name of my son. His sister knew one of my home girls and she had it on. I'm like, what is that. I need that because I was at the point in my life where I wanted to reach happy as funk. So she gave me the first one and
all my fans started taking notice. You know what I mean. I wore it because I wanted to get to that place, you know what I mean. Um, I wore it because that was a goal of mine. So I gave it to people. After my son saw that I really liked it. He gave me a big bag of him, Like he came to my show in Minnesota and like here you go. I'm like, thank you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. He makes them. You know, they didn't worn't by me. You know,
it was just something I really liked. I wanted to be that, so I passed him out to special people. You know. I had one for Wayne, you know what I'm saying. I passed him out to special people that we're trying to reach that are already there. But I wasn't there yet. But I noticed when I was on my last um vacation with my kids last Christmas and um uh New Year's in Hawaii at the Alani Resort.
It was just us without their mama for the first time, you know what I'm saying, because of the divorce and everything. And I saw them and I'm on the beach with them on New Year's Eve and the fireworks are going up. And my son said, I just want to see fireworks on the beach. That's all he wanted to ever see. And we got it. And we were right there on the beach dancing. That was happy as fun. That was happy as fun. And I'm gonna find other happiest moments.
You say, I don't wear it no more because I you know, I'm just now trying to find happy again in these dark days, you know. So once I start getting back there all the way and you know, I just had to remind myself what I am. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So this is a reminder to everybody else too, that you know that I'm a more more as the moors are coming, you know what I'm saying. We're more as we we build things, we show people how to live, you know what I'm saying. We create
things and create jobs and create everything. You know what I'm saying. So, um, that's why the king is there. But um, happy as fun. I will find it again. It's gonna be different levels of its levels to this ship, you know what I'm saying. So I will find it again and I'm in the I'm in the midst of finding it right now. You know what I'm saying. This divorce is over, You'll really be happy as fun that passes or ex nice man, let's go, man. Absolutely appreciate
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