Rap Radar Rewind: Murda Beatz

SAA I don't know, best producers. That's what the fans decide. You know what I'm saying. You're hot out here, thought, Yeah, we definitely hot. Murder beats us here and what's up murder? What's up baby? Now? I'm just chilling, you know what I'm saying. Beautiful weather l A. Shane is looking lovely. Thank you both. Change Ice traded game Man to change. I'm gonna need three change man. You shut up with the Badley numbers four man, four weeks at number one.

Nice for what that comes from? The the murder beats like, like, that's that's a really atypical you know. Lauren Hill sped up Bounce, Like, how how does that song come together? I feel like I just feel like music needed a record like that. I feel like it was like very refreshing, you know what I'm saying. Even feel like a lot of like older hip hop people like you know what I'm saying, It's just like brought like I feel like the young generation and new generation together to like funk

with one record. Because you know a lot of people nowadays like, oh, like I funk with these hip hop people. I fuk with these old heads. I don't sunk with these new guys, you know what I'm saying. So just like classic Drake Young murder On like you know what I'm saying, old school record, put it all together, you know what I'm saying. It's just it was crazy record. But why Lauren Hill? Actually, so we were chilling. We

were chilling at Drake's house. We're playing two K, and we came up with the idea to get like a female artist, like like the sample female artist. So I asked my manager Corn like, yo, what do you think like he's like a X factor? And then Jim was like, oh, apart, And then we picked apart, chopped it up. I made

the beat and he was playing two kids. You know what I'm saying, to be playing it's like my player and all that ship like this far you know what I'm saying, Like ball made to be right there and now he sat there, wrote the ship in front of me, cut the ship in front of me, and yeah, we'd this ship done and like like b and song probably like hour and a half and then I think he

finished like the second verse later on. Yeah. That was like that was in Toronto and stuff too, So that's not it not It's not often we're like I'll make I'll sit with an artists and like make a lot of records in person with the beginning with a Canadian artist, you know what I'm saying. So I feel like that was a special moment. I've made like a lot of

beats in Canada, you know what I mean. Like I made like the Motorsport beat at my boys careb he said little yeah, you know what I'm saying, So like yeah, but the whole bounce feel of it, like it's such an a typical sound, Like I mean, you know, you're a master drums and all that, but just the fact that it's it's such a oh Master, like the New Orleans sound right there announced where he's from, with Wayne being the guy who helped put Drake on obviously. Yeah see,

I just I don't know. I just do my thing and put the murder sauce on it and then just how it figures out to be. You know, like even like when we made with you on views, It's like I was a party and like we were like cooking up and stuff, and I didn't even know I was making an Afro drum beat, like you know, with you on Visa Party, Drake, I didn't even know I was making an Afro drum beat. And you know what I'm saying, I was just making some hard ship and it just

sounded fire. I thought I was like some dance song or whatever. But well he's like he's like, you know, I don't even think you even know you're making an aff for drum. I'm like that's crazy. But then people look at you like you're the ultimate these saucis white. But but you also like the ultimate trap music producer in a sense, right, like does that does that title or that type of like you know, uh, tag bother you at all? Like the babies in limiting your time

to be like this is a trap producer. It doesn't bother me, but I don't want to be like boxed in, you know what I'm saying. Like last year, and you can ask anyone last year in the industry, I was telling everyone, I'm like, yo, I want to have the biggest part record with Selena Gomez and have the biggest underground record out at one time. So m a year later, at the same time, I had a number one with

Drake I dropped your trapping smoke perp. So I'm what I'm saying, Like that, That's how I want to be, and that's how all my whole career to be. I want to be able to touch all age groups, all genres of music, you know what I'm saying, and just like be a real producer and show people how to like actually be a producer, not just like make beats and like send me to email. Get a couple year

in there, you know what I'm saying. So you pay so many dudes when they like with the smoke perp thing, Like I know you were saying, Like obviously there was a lot of trend of like a producer and MC getting together, right, but it seems like you really was embracing it more like I felt like you guys were really forming a real rap group, you know what I mean, Like the way you would carry yourself for you know, like what we were going out and we're gonna put

yourself like in the forefront, you know, because you've done so much behind the scenes. Yeah, you know, Like I don't know, Like I'm definitely like more of a guy that's like I want to be like I want you to know who murder is, you know what I'm saying. That's I've always been like when people are coming up on Twitter, like producers and stuff that you usually don't show themselves and ship and like that's like at an early age, I was like sixteen going to Chicago. You

know what I'm saying. I found Yeah, I found amigoes seventeen years old in Atlanta, Like you know what I'm saying, offer social media and ship. They're like, oh this a white boy, Like you know what I'm saying, coach and they're like, yo, you can fly you out, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, man, getting back to a nice for what with the sample? Were you a fan of Lauren Hills music prior to getting into that record.

I funked with the music. I never like grew up with it, you know what I'm saying, Because like coming from my background, I grew up around like classic rock and like rock music and stuff like that. So I feel like that's what gives me like a different edge on like producing as well, because I just have like that different like like a lot of a lot of trap producers and a lot of producers in my lane right now come up on like jazz and blues and like soulcial music and stuff like that, and I came

up on rock music. So I feel like that's what gives me an advantage of my drums and stuff. Did you did she have to give you her blessing for the record to she did a little remix at the one of her shows, was that the Apollo? Yeah? I think. So what do you think about the way Drake approached the record lyrics? Because I saw some people that he was even trying to be critical of, saying like that track is just so like dope as it's instrumental, like anybody could have like a lot of m c s

could have won with that track. Why do you think Drake the way Drake navigated that track was the perfect on One thing is though, is if is if me and Drake were together, that be with nerv and mad and that's and that's for a lot of music too. That's what people gotta understand, even like people like currate vibes, like like me and you might go in the studio right now and I might make it hit in front of you and it might be fucking hoes next single,

you know what I'm saying. But if you weren't there, that'd be when the nervan made you know what I'm saying. So people gotta remember that too. It's like people bring the vibe and just like me and Drake being together sparked that energy to make a record like that, did you know it's gonna go number one? We knew it was gonna be honestly, like I think, yeah, Like that's just like I'm dead serious, that's just actually crazy, like like we made this. He's like this is this is

one of them. I was like, and I was like, yo, like this is that ship? Like this ain't no trap, you know what I'm saying. This isn't like I like hitting people like with the left I'm left handed, so I like hitting people left job, you know what I'm saying, because like even like the witty thing like when when they when they dropped that views trackolates, Everyone's like, oh ship, yeah, you know what I'm saying. And then they dropped that Like what the fun is this? Like some people work confused,

some people didn't like it. Some people like, oh this is what is it like being behind like this? Also the way Drake played the angle of it with the lyrics and even in the visual like such like a woman empowerment type of vibe to it. Amen, shout out to Drake. Man. You love the ladies? Yeah, you know, like I don't know, like the ladies love motor sport than the ladies like nothing nice for the ladies are gonna love my album when it comes out, Like you

know what I'm saying, I have records. I don't know. Was it this idea to put Big Freed on it or was it yours? This guy's a genius. Yeah, I was gonna say, what's it like? Because I mean we've used That was the first time you really got really started connecting. You did Portland too, obviously I didn't Portland long long time. No shopping Yeah, the whole drop comes from Baca right out on Bacca. That's how that's how

we really tapped in. You know what I'm saying, Like we like we like kind of like in the clubs back all the time, like yo, man, he should be should be a robber, Like you know what I'm saying Me Guiller and my manager like, yo, you should be

a robber. Put out of your got this guy in the studio, and like you know what I'm saying, he was just like amped up, one of those guys that's always like pumped up and ship and started we started making music with him and stuff, going to going to the club, being like, yo, you can go to the club and play your music. Is I just like turning up and ship right started going to the club playing his music and one day on the song he said, boka a k not nice murder on the beach, so

it's not nice. And Drake was really working with that from there, so then you know what I'm saying, That's where I got the tag from. And I think even the first person I asked was Sunny Digital too in Toronto. I was like yo Butt in the song, like Yo, what do you what do you think if I like used as a tag because I just had the moment murder and he's like, hey man, you never know him, he should try it out one day, you know what

I'm saying, shut out Sunny Digital. Yeah, that was literally the first time that I like, I really like thought him used the BAKA tag too. So yeah, so when did you first really get to work with Portland Joint? I guess, like when did you guys really first lock in UM? After with you that's him like we're certain to like kind of like more like he invited me to his house and he played me back on roading, no shopping and like one sitting and I was like,

holy ship, Like you know what I'm saying. I think we're going to watch like a Raptors game or something. He's like, come, come my career or whatever. Play me those two records. So I was like, damn crazy, you know what I'm saying. So sup, the six guy, you know, crazy out here snapping like obviously him being the biggest and from Canada, like you know somebody dope producers are

from Canada. Um, But like I think I think I saw theeview you were saying, like let's not get Let's not get complacent though, Like we have an opportunity right now where Drake's at this position, like we have to go for it. Like we can't just get comfortable, like you know that the vibes with Toronto producers that we

have to go out there and get it right. Yeah, and then just like not even producers as well, Like I feel like artists, like there's such like a crazy underground music like music based right now in Toronto that's

like needs to be more capitalized on. Like there's so many, like there's so many like talented artists, like you know you guys know if you like you know, like Press, You've got like Achilles, You've got like prim Boys, You've got like a bunch of people, right And I just feel like people have got to learn to use the resources more and just like really pipe up the whole scene, you know, and the whole the whole thing, like you know, like like we're from a different country too, So if

we get it, if I get the rested right now, for like some dumb ship, I can't come back to the States for five years. That's something I had to risk coming up, you know what I'm saying, Being around all these hood rap stars, trap stars in Atlanta. You

know what I'm saying. There was a lot to risk, So it's like people got to figure out how to capitalize that and like monetize the industry more on the underground standpoint in Toronto, and it seems like you talk about capitalizing and monetizing You're from Canada, but you just blindly went to Chicago and trying to get it. Yeah, you know, honestly, I wouldn't tell any of like that. I wouldn't tell a lot of people that do what

I did. But I was just yeah, like I was, I don't know, I don't know, did you know I was scared. I knew. I hit up some people on the internet when that went down, went went down to the like the one hunters like you landing like Chicago old hair, right, Yeah, I went downtown like the hood, the red red roof and red some ship hotel, fucking. I had some guys like like I was, like like some people that were around for the time. They picked me up. Took me a year of blah blah, he said.

The guy scooped me, went downtown, went shopping, went to the water time saw that's for the first time then went down on the Wild one Hunters and ship. Yeah, she was pretty crazy. Like I wouldn't I wouldn't tell the way you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know, but you were just like on the internet and like I discovered the whole drill music thing, and I got and I got and I built relationships with some guys that like I could trust and like when I went

out there, you know, they had me. They took me around, took me the exclusives, like like I did all that ship, you know what I'm saying, So by yourself, everybody from Yeah, by myself. Yeah that's crazy. So what was she keep? Like? I mean, I don't know if I ever give him his dude, Like, like he's such a legend in certain certain sectors, Like did he live up to the hype

of working with them and getting to know that whole scene? Um? Yeah, I feel like you keep like like the whole like drum music scene that he created, and like I feel like he even then just like birth, the whole like ignorance of you throughout. I feel like a lot of ship wouldn't be happening right now if it wasn't for him,

right and especially the megos too. I feel like I feel like the Megoes and Chief keep for like the top influential people of like right now in music, like overall, but from Chicago, you moved to Atlanta, you like live with I stayed, I like went to Chicago because some people on the internet they said I lived in Chicago. I went to Chicago. You know, Okay, I did not move to Chicago, Canada six years old going to live

and then you know what I'm saying. But then when I like then I was like, yeah, I need to get my my my music into the Atlanta music scene. Like I felt like was like the presence of just being in Atlanta and just getting your music out there so strong, right, and it's such an important part of music. So that's when I found these guys, the meges on love mixtapes before they blew up like fire like at first, like I was listening to the Ship and I'm like,

it's just so different. I honestly I didn't know if I like like the music at first, but I was like, yo, like this is so different, Like I know this is gonna be something. Like I felt like I caught a wave before it was the wave. You know what I'm saying. Remember what song it was? Um, it might have been like even like no label like packs, um lean like this some ship like some like way back like like

the old no label, you know what I'm saying. And then like I started like working with them, Um I contacted. I used to have like this little method I do on Twitter and like like if I if I want to hit up Elliott Wilson, I would type in Ellie Wilson and find like your cousin and hit up your cousin you like a skip of the flip of it. Yeah, Like I just that's why, That's why I did that type of meigo. And I see all the mego guys and I just hit up skipped with the flipper. You know.

I'm like, Yo, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a pack of beasts. Just give just let just let Cuavon take off and hear these beats because obviously was locked up at the time, so these guys, so he played them. He's like yo right now, Like he was just like he was like engineering for them and stuff, like they're the boys. You know what I'm saying, Help with your boys. You work with the music and ship all that. He played them on the beach and they're like, Yo,

these beach are fire, like they've made a smash. Keep keep sending them. And then that's when they get They called me like yo, you can get down there, and they flew me out there, and then my mom was scared again. You know what I'm saying, Fine, dough to Atlanta, you know. And then that's like that was like a long time ago. They were like they were like they're like staying in the studio on Metropolitan and Ship in Atlanta, Like this is like like back in the day ship,

you know what I'm saying, with p and stuff. So they shut up, shut up, coach up me Like which the kid was there. You know what I'm saying, shut up, you risk the kid. I don't know it's me. It wasn't like a real workshop you guys are just working. It was a workshop. These guys were living in there like making music though. You know what I'm saying, Like we made em Smith in there, like you know what I'm saying. That's when like the dad was like really

created you know what I'm saying. He said, Miss Smith record before pipe it up was the Birth of the Dad. Oh yeah, you can look it up. You look that ship and I was like, what two twelve two and they're dabbing in that video, so people can't you know what I'm saying. He said that was just quite more excited, right, Yeah, he was just excited. That was just like emphasizing just like how hard the beat was when the beat dropped, just going oh, you know what I'm saying, That's how

it started. Wasn't called the Dad, But how does it go from like working with him at first and then you actually just live with them? Like what was it? Just the chemistry from jump just felt like I just just grinding, you know what I'm saying, want to be around, like really hungry and focus and really being like driven on what I'm trying to do. Like I really wanted this to happen, you know, and I really didn't want

anything else. I didn't there was no plan B. This was all I wanted to do, you know, and I had to make it happen. So, like, you know, I just kept going down to Atlanta and then I started staying with them, started going on tour with them, started being the sprinter with these guys. All the time, like really really built, like really built like a like a like a relationship in a bond, like like with their

families like everything. You know, So these are like like family to me, you know, like my mom knows these guys, their moms knowing me. It's that was a tough time because Offset and concerated and the drama with the label

and stuff like that was a tough time. And I'm like, yeah, a little bit when when I started when I started seeing these guys too, that's like like around the time when Officet got out, so they were starting to get piped up to and Off said all the time, you look at me and you always have his mugg And I thought I didn't think he didn't like me as adjustment. I think he likes me. I was like, I was like more shy at the time. But you know what

I was like, I was like seventeen years old. You know what I'm saying, No chains, nothing like you know what I'm saying, white boy, I was around me. I was around these guys like, ye know, I need some change, man, got stage with these guys. Need to go buy some little chains or whatever. I need to do something, you know, because you guys have me on tour there pushing me on stage. It was my songs and trying to get me like used to like, you know, it's your song.

You know what I'm saying. So how long were you staying in Atlanta for? I would just I would go for a couple of months at a time. We'll stay with them, go back home, go go back out there, and go back home. But it was like I was out there for mint like minutes at the time, like a good time, you know. Then, But did your mom realized Okay, he's okay, Like yeah, I don't know. I don't know, because that's when they were on like you

know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna say they're on their bullshit, but you know they were in the news. They were they were in their news for like like little stuff all the time. So like she'd probably worried, But you know they're good guys and my dogs, you know. But you said your dad believe in you from jump. I know he passed away a few years ago. My po, Yeah, he believes me from the jump. He was telling me yo, like don't quick, keep going, don't stop. You know what

I'm saying. Everyone wants me to go to college do this to that. I was gonna go to college for business because like making money. I didn't know what how I was going to do that. I didn't you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know. Everyone had a little ways of making money back in the day, you know what I'm saying. I was making a little bit of bread. But like there was a point where I was like, I gotta I gotta stop everything. You just start making music because this music is gonna take me

a lot farther than anything else would. Right, You didn't want no job. No, I never had a job, never had never. I'm left handed. I told my mom I was grade seven. I was different some weird show, like your mom different. I'm left handed, Like I'm not like all these other kids in class. Like I can't work a job, I can't have a ball, Like I can't do that. Equables left handed to right? Yea me equival and Barack Obama. I don't know anyone else's special about

being left sided. Wait you love handed to wait, there's someone else to wait someone you know. Someone just told me someone else was left hand the other day too, And I was like what And it's something like you can't cut paper or something like what's the what's what? I couldn't cut paper in grade two that I did order me left handed scissors because like, no, I'm that serious, because like the way I don't know that the scissors

are like opposite ways. I was like, I was like I remember being great too, like man, the fun that can't cut Like I can't cut paper and ship this ship now you can maybe exactly. Maybe that's why I didn't want a job. But music was always on. You said your pop was a guitar? Did he have a game basement? Was he like? Was he he just like you know what I'm saying, Like back in the day, he was like in bands and doing all that ship

you know. Unfortunately, back in that generation, you know, like people were like kids and stuff and more like independent by the age of seventeen on their own and stuff, like you guys, did you know that? You know, so that he didn't really have the opportunity to like chase his dream kind of how to like stay focused just like maintaining like get the money, you know what I'm saying.

I was more like, yeah, I was more like I come from a middle class family I had, Like, so I knew that, Like that's why I took advantage of my of my opportunity. I was like, you, I'm sixteen and everyone's going to high school and college and this and that. Instead of like going to college for five years, coming out and being in debt fifty k, I can literally just make beats and work hard and it's just

gonna work. Like I was even thinking about it at that time like that, but like, yeah, it's crazy though, crazy to me, But how did you go from like easy, like a pearl Jam drum kit to like hip hop? I think he said something like you saw the game, hated a loved video and that impacted you. That impacted me a lot to like start listening to rap music. I was like, this is fire, like you know, and then I started I started like playing on drums like

Travis Sparker remixes and Ship. And then that's what kind of got me from drums to electric drums. And then and then one of my boys introduced me to fl Studio and I was like Ship, but I was like trying to use it stuff. Taught myself how to use it, and that's when I sold my electric drums for an mp K forty nine keyboard and then just started. I didn't know how to play piano. I was just like I remember being in a music class. It wouldn't have

you played the piano. They wanted me always played the trumpets. So I dropped out of music class in high school, and like I would always just go on the piano and just like randomly be a president. Ship. My boy told me, was like, yo, you'd be playing like Beethoven and ship, like you know what I'm saying. I was like, randomly hitt and shild not even know what I'm hitting, but just like music's patterns to me, Like so they just like I don't know, you just hit the right

patterns and it makes it sound good. You started isolating yourself too, right, Like yeah, people were making fun of me making beats. People kind of like the script, oh you why you can't make rap music? Like it was like a lot of ships. So I was like, yo, like I just like cut a lot of people off, stayed at home during Christmas making beats by myself the whole Christmas break, two weeks come back school and was like I didn't see you whatever. When I was like yeo,

making beats man. I don't know, but your first placement was with Soldier Boy, right, My first my first technical placement was with why Be the rock Star? Your boy the guy from the bank, he was signed a con at the time. That was like so like people people at first were telling me, oh, like wait till your beats are better to like start getting placement. So I

was like, yo, fun this ship. I was like three months and I was I was like three months into making beats, sending people beats on Twitter, and my beat sounded like ship like yeah, said even the Soldier Boy that they said that was first one. You you hate that track, right, You think that wasn't like one of your best stories as well. No, it's like my bet

at me and not not definitely my best. But when you're getting money from that, like what was I wasn't getting money for a while because people gotta understand people like people nowadays, Like it's like like you definitely gotta know you're worth but like you definitely got to pay your dues and like understand the game, and like you gotta you gotta play the game and work, work and play your cards properly to be able to get in

the position to make money. Like like I feel like like I was financially starting to make money probably like a year and a half, two years ago, you know what I'm saying. People thought I was rich five years ago making a smith, you know what I'm saying. But like it's just like that's moving with the times. I was like those times, I was like jugging Western Union money. Graham, Like you know what I'm saying. You want you want? You want to be beat for a thousand and send

me that. I wasn't even sending snippets because I found out like people like Lex Lukeen, these guys were sending people snippets and people just loop the snippet. So I was like, yo, funk that if people want my beat, you gotta send me the money, and I'm gonna sending you like a couple of beats and you can just pick from the beat. I just wanted the money, like I was like, yo, Like my my Western Union was flagged.

They thought I was doing fraud and ship. It was like I was like young, I was like, you know what I'm saying. I was always going to the West Union picking up money. That's how I like I started everything because I see that now, like a lot of producers are complaining that, you know, they're not getting credit or the mixtape paperwork. Right Hey, back in the day, nobody's getting paid off no mixtape. So like, you know what I'm saying, I don't know, you almost have to

pay dudes in that sense. And that's what I felt like, I paid enough dudes, like I did my thing, you know what I'm saying. So, but yeah, you definitely have to pay your dudes. People got I don't know, it

was piping up. The first one where you felt like that was like that was probably like the first record, like I really got yeah, and that was like probably the first record where like they got paid for like a beat from like a major and then like, yeah, record that like made like money because it was that was a big I feel like that that record was like a big moment in itself just for music and just like just like rapp in general, and just like how the dad blew up and kids were dabbing, Hillary

Clinton was dabbing and went and went to like and went to like football, Cam Newton and went to like it, went to like soccer over in Europe and went to like hockey it's just like it was just like it was crazy, Like you know what I'm saying now, Like there's like you could dab on Fortnite, you know what I'm saying, Like it's just crazy. What do you what

are you making? The meagles? Like obviously you respect for them and it was part of their journey of wanting to be stars, but then bad and boujee happens and then they go to a whole of the level. Like what's it like to witness and how how do you feel they've changed and not changed with all the success they've had recently. I don't think they've changed. I think the money's changed, the Jewelish jewels changed, the car lots have changed, you know what I'm saying. But I don't

think they've changed. What I'm saying. Those are my dogs, you know, And just to see that come up was like really good because like around that time, it's like that's when I kind of like I didn't like separate myself from them, like we're family for life. But that's like when I kind of like took some steps to the left and men like yo, like I'm gonna i gotta build like my own I'm like at the end of the day, like I want you to remember me like murder beats, you know. I started like go do

my own thing. That's like when I first came to l A for the first time and stuff. So I was like getting in the studio different artists. I was only in the studio with the mego was like all the time. So like when I even saw like different artists process in the studio, I was like, Fuck, why they're writing ship, like you know, saying the mego's freestyle everything. I didn't I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't know people had songs like I didn't know any of

this ship like the egos like freestyle everything. So just so just like for me to be be coming up in my little lane that when I moved off, and then like just to see them come up and now like we're both just like on top of ship right now. Like I just feel like that's the best blessing ever. Felt like pressure to be like an in house producer for them or like that whole camp like I kind of was for like a couple of years, you know what I'm saying. But then I felt like I wanted

to be like more. I wanted just like Murder Beats to be known as Murder Beats and stuff. Yeah, because I wondered, I'm always going to be attached to the meges like like we got more sport, we got more coming. We're always making music. They're gonna be all over my album, always gonna be on theirs. I'm always gonna have ship with QC artist, you know what I'm saying, little baby Yaddie, all these guys. You know what I'm saying. I'm always gonna like coaching them, you know, like QC. Like that's

like they really did. They really did this ship like like a growth overwall to see happened. Yeah, Like like you know, like my come up story is like very unique in the way that I came up from Canada like a white boy trying music all that ship. But like just for them to be like as successful as they are as an independent label, it's like a crazy success story too, because then back in the day, everyone was down in them, the majors didn't want to help them.

Look at what look at what they did now, like that's crazy. You know, it's hard to do that. It makes it makes everyone think they can do it, you know. So what was that transition going to l a Like, why did you decide that was the home base? And then who did you first start working with out there that did you feel like this is like the right move? The first person I started working with in l a Ah, maybe Nipsy. Also, I hadn't move on Twitter, Like three am, some beats. He was like, yo put dm yo put

the studio tomorrow, three pm. Pulled up his studio. He ordered pizza. This was like, this was like three like three and a half years ago. Okay, so we made one song that night. And the song we made that night was Grind Grind Grind, which made the album which came out what what like this four months ago? Yeah, so that's why I like, I didn't even I was like, fun, I hate this beat, like I made the beat. And two that was four game or something like that, right,

the Tom Clancy video game? Was it? Yeah? I think it was, but then it kind of got like remixed or something. Yeah, it was just like it was like he put it on streaming and took it off. Yeah, it made his album and and then and then and

then they told me it didn't make his album. Was like, oh ship and then it made his album, and then it didn't make his album, and then like it made his album, and then I was like, I don't even know if like I want this beat to come out like this song was far, but I don't know like the beat like you know what I'm saying is that And they even want to, like you know, you can touch it up you want to. I was like, like, I don't want record. I don't want to touch it up.

But I remember I went this to you. I was like, Yo, we need to make you some club shit like and that's that's that's how I made that record too. So that's a whole another story. But yeah, I don't know who else though I worked with out here for the first time, but you like the vibe of it, like because your base now, isn't that right? It's just like it's just good because all the studios are out here, you know what I'm saying. Everyone comes out here for work,

like I don't. I don't go to Atlanta to see the boys anymore. Like I see them, I see the meat goes out here like like probably a couple of times a week, a couple of times every other week. I see them all the time, Like everyone's out here, you know, like I just go go see go see

two Chains, go see anyone from Atlanta out here. Right, So do you make records for people in mind, because like the Travis Butterfly effect, it sounds like it was tailored for him or was it that's just something you had in the it was it was like when I made that beat, it was like I had a couple of people in mind, you know, but you had Travis.

When I said in the Travis that was a smash, like we knew the smash, Like I like something to beat us recording that ship like FaceTime him he was like we were he was, he were like on FaceTime when he was like finishing the record, like recording and ship in Houston, and he just put that ship out and I was like that was crazy because like that record got like twelve million views and under twenty four hours or had like some crazy amount of views in like two days. And then he's like they just they

just went with it, like they just they started. They pushed. They pushed the version off of YouTube, I mean off of SoundCloud. That was really just my two track and then Travis recording himself bouncing it and putting on the Internet, and that was like the record that got out there, so like we didn't even get really to like fully mixing mass with the record and like get like a really like super radio cleaner like mixed version and all

that ship. You know. So I saw someone you were saying that you respect Travis that sonically he's so sound with how he approaches his music makes it really unique. Right, Well, Yeah, sonically I feel like Travis is the best. Like like I feel like I feel like that's what like Kanye is really good at. Like there's like sonics of music, you know, and like Travis just like with the way he uses auto tune, with the way he uses other plugins,

you know what I'm saying. It's just like it's just like coming together like with like his sound of beats, it just sounds like amazing. You know. To talk about Quabo because like it seems like you you both have the reputation of being able to work really fast, right Like it's it's Quabo. What what is it about Quabo to make some specially when like why are you are you guys able to create content so fast? Like in the studio Quabos a genius man um I don't know.

I can't really explains too much, too much ship, you know, but yeah, Quive was just like a great artist, just going freestyle, like you know what I mean. It's like play a beat, but go pull that, s it up. That's what this lays a quick melody or something down and make it like that's how he made pipe of. He's like, yo, like I like skipped over the beat. He's like, wait, go back. I'm like I didn't even like to beat. I was like no, like no, Like he's like, no, go back that beat and he's like,

pipe it up, pipe it up. I'm like, yo, go go cut that. Go cut that. He pulls up. The beat goes in the booth like this is like in the house, you know what I'm saying, cuts, it comes up studios like yo. I felt like this is like how I felt when we made for Sacchi and I was like, yeah, that's a special that's a special one right there, Like you just knew it, you know if you're saying that that's special. Quit was really talented, like melodies, wrap everything. I feel like all the megos are like

take off. I feel like he's like one of the best rappers in the game. You know what I'm saying, He's like crazy flows and bars and all that and offsets snapping right now to office is going crazy too. I don't really have a favorite mego. You know, you know, if you'all were going to ask that question, you know what, No, but they started doing it, and it was like they

started loving offset gets. Like Quabo looked at got the first recognition and then all of a sudden was like all offset offsets gets features a dope and then now but take off the quiet storm like nobody because like you know, when the megos first came out, it was always like they were like ashut taking Quaval on the hook, because it was always Quavo on the hook, and I think offsets. First time he laid a hook was on my beat. It was called Trenches. It was like I

think it was. It was offset take off and skip and like we made I made that beat in like the back room, on like a cordboard cardboard box, like in the basement on their old house, and like we made that record right there, and like that was like offsets. Like I think Quaval was actually sick at the time or something. That's why he didn't get on it, but like that was offsets, like first hook on the record, like that's on YouTube and ships and that was hard,

Like you know what I'm saying. So yeah, now offset looking he's crushing it and doing a bunch of hooks the Atlanta m C. You have a lot of success with his two Chains, you know, four am minutes of vibe like those are the two to staying out records from his last album, like he had shot out to chains Man. We got we got some new shot on his album too. Yeah yeah, but just so you recently like your mom's and two Chains to everybody altogether, Like what was that? I saw? Well to change in right

of me too? Was I was last week? You know what I'm saying. He ex into music, album and stuff. So I was like, yo, like I'm definitely gonna give you some crazy ship to pipe up this album. You know what I'm saying, Give him a pack of beats to sit on and all that stuff, you know what I'm saying. And then we ended up making a little play. You know you're gonna see what that is. But you know, we got a nice little record on there. But you had to change, you know. He was I was performing

with him. I was opening up for him in Toronto Mother's Day and stuff, so I brought my mom. You know what I'm saying, He's got to make make his MoMA proud. So so probably on backstage me to change, he was happy and stuff, congratulated him on his proposal and all that ship. So yeah, shut up to change. To work with him with those two records was like just to see what says it was with the me Goes and these other guys like the Chemistry. Yeah, I

sent those beats. I sent those beats to him. Actually, I made the It's off I beat here at no Name because when I and that's when I kept seeing all them, um those calub basses overo. Kanye billboard was popping up everywhere. I was like, Yo, if they're actually making this out, I'm gonna make some hard dedication type ship. So that's when I made the beat. You know what I'm saying. I made the beat and then um, I just left it with J Pope and then Jake Jet

gave the Holly even gave the beat to Chains. I go, this might be a dopebet for you, and he said to him, so shut out, J Pope. He's a legend. You know, he's a good mentor to me right now. Two and shipped too, So absolutely, I know you got somebody really bossing you around. Man, this guy's a side Calige Man. Yeah, the man's record with that man. You know, he's like he's a he's definitely a boss baby. He's the he's the baby of all bosses mix. So yeah,

I don't know. Me and Cow sat down with the side. He went to Miami for that right now, I was here, you know what I'm saying. We sat down with the side. You know I'm talking with had him on fake time. He was giving me some pointers and ship. You know, so shut up to the side, shut out the Cow. But what about your own project? Keep God? Keep God? First? Two? Is there still coming? Keep so? Keep God? First was a mixtape that I leaked on the internet. Everyone kind of got mad at me, but it had a lot

of big names in it. That's why, right like labels success, it was kind of successful, and everyone after it came out was like I didn't really sweat it because like it really like was like I feel it was like a key moment for everything. Like I had like a couple of offsets solo songs on therefore like that, So I feel like it's just like just everything, Like I had like Playboy Curdie on there before he popped. I had Pressed on there that Novocaine song that made him

pop from Toronto. I had like a bunch of other songs on there, just like everything, just like I didn't they I feel like it was just good for culture. It was like can you just push the button? Like nobody knew you were doing it? Like that Ship, I don't know, Drop that your marriaging core. You can't talk you out of it. It It was like the go Top like you mentioned Pressa, like he's having his moment in Canada, like with the Novocaine record, Like what's so special about him?

And why do you guys work so well together? This is like like his voice is dope and he's as real bars and like when he spits his music and Ship, like he's really like saying bars that like you've never heard of rappers say like these aren't Like a lot of rappers have recycled bars and artists will recycle each other's bars and like similar bars and Ship but like I feel like like Ship, Pressor says, is like he really like he's really like saying something that you've never

heard before, Like the way you'll like rap upup a certain thing. It's like different than like you normally hear it. So it's like I feel like that's like the wild factor and his voice and like the way he looks like he's young and everything. There's a couple of people that folk with, you know what I'm saying, Like Books, Brian Boys, like Little Gino Chicago, Like there's a bunch of people, you know, so shoutout press. Yeah, so keep God first two that album. I'm working on it right now.

I've got a lot of crazy names on it, you know what I'm saying. So this is gonna be like a major album. It's gonna be pushed properly. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna be why I keep God for us as the team, because like I really found God through music, you know what I'm saying, Like at the beginning stages, like that's what like like quib On, these guys like they were always like yo, like you gotta believe in God? Like what was I like really

started to give faith in God? And that's really how like my my career started like but like I started like get better and I started seeing like results and like praying for stuff and stuff happening in my life, and that that's what gave me like the faith and like you know what I'm saying, it's like really believing God. So I would always right, keep going first all time on Twitter at night, every night before I went to bed, after I praise to keep going first one. I'd always

say that. And then one night I was like driving, I was driving to see my mom and I was like, Yo, it was literally like before I was like I was gonna like drop the mixtape. I was like, Yo, I'm just gonna name it. I'm gonna name keep got first, keep gout first. It's something I say all the time, you know what I'm saying, And like me tweeting all the time, it's like it's I'm not just tweeting to tweet.

I'm tweeting to the mind you to keep going first to you know, and your God could be anyone, Like I'm not saying I'm not saying that certain religions got out of Like your guy can be whoever you want your God to be in any religion, right, So, yes, So I just want to keep God first. And that's why I like, I want my debut out and to

be keep God first. Two. Yeah, No, I think it's interesting because you see so much now in hip hop about people being comfortable enough to talk about vulnerability and depression and sort of mental health, right, And I think that you expressed like your whole energy is always like

you try to stay positive. You're very driven. You go for what you want, you know what I mean, in your faith, like and putting it out there, Like why do you think you've been able to like be able to be strong mentally and you know, really pay your dues and get yourself to the point that you're at now. I don't know. My parents made in Towns a kid. I don't know. I don't know, Like like I don't know, but this business can mess you up, and like you know,

like I just lad the tunnel vision. I don't know, I guess I got it from my parents work, I think, but I really got the tunnel vision, the focus and just like finding God and just like keeping positive messages, just staying I just I found out how to like like how how I like kind of like isolated myself in high school for people. I really got to know myself.

I feel like you really got to like spend a lone time and learn yourself to be able to like like fully like manifest like big stuff to happen and like speak things in new existence and control your life and control the universe and stuff, you know, Like I feel like that's a big role in my career, Like you know right now, Like I'll say something three weeks ago there now it's happening right now. Like so it's just like I don't know, just keeping positive all times.

He said, it's like a producers period again you still feel that way, yea, I feel like producers of the new artists thousand percent, especially from Canada. Yeah, and like way the new DJs too, when the new I don't know, it's just like you know what I'm saying, Like how what was it like ten years ago you had like Scott Storage, Timberland and all these guys DR Dre, all these big guys and like they were like known in

the spotlight. You know what I'm saying, Like everyone, if you were like a music fan, not even as a rap, if you're a music fan, like you knew that like like Timberland was working like Nellie for Toado and like all these people, you know what I'm saying, these crazy records, I feel like that and it's becoming that again. I feel like there's like you got like you're like all start line up with producers that people know if you listen to music or if you listen to just rapp

or just you know what I'm saying in general. Now, So I think I saw you the Scott Stores and you have some dogs or something and yeah, cooking up with his dogs. You know, I always gotta cook up with the dog. Mom was cooking up like real dogs. Yeah, you know. But you had your own DJ, say in Hawaii and you're going on tour with the Endless right. You know. That was the first time I ever DJ in Hawaii and I didn't even know what I was doing.

I literally learned like the night the night before in my hotel room, and like I was like learning at sound check and I like and like when people were like about to start walking the club and ship, well yeah that was that was crazy. Just now I was DJ and like like yeah, like I don't know I'd be crashing in Yeah. So Italy too, you was doing the set up. Yeah, I did. I DJ that after party and LANs Fashion show. You flew me up to brand again. I don't know what brand say for Cell Blon.

He's a he's a designer in Milan, Italy and um he's like a part owner. Um in like palms, angels off way a bunch of stuff, you know, shout out celling Balon. So he had to be over there, you know what I'm saying. I saw like a bunch of his collapse you had coming up with like the NBA and like a one. So you can find stuff in the stories that you can go like whatever stories you would shot about. You're gonna see his ship, you know, step my game. It's just fired. You know what I'm saying.

We got we got the Murder Balon clothing brand coming to you know, I'm saying, you got to see it, sax bart and he's all that ship. But the Z you're doing the DJ sat on the tour, I'm just like, how many records are gonna play on Murder Beats records? I don't know. I like to like when I DJ, like when I DJ said and stuff. I like to play music. I like to listen to, like if I'm in the whip. I don't listen to my music. Really yeah, I don't know. How do you most of us on

the radio, how do you avoid it? Like I don't listen to the radio. Listened to playlistes that one I listen to. Hey, y'all listen to the radio. You know, you know I listened to playlists, you know, like Spotify players, Apple playlists, Title playlists, get them all in Murder, Get Amazon playlists, Google playlist, YouTube, a big record on playlists,

Motor Sport. You keep mentioning that, like also sudden, you said that like a lat of times, you're very critical, like you said of the Nipsey Bes, you make your your harshest critic. But that was one you felt like that beats hard. Like I literally made that on a speaker like this in my boys condo. The size of this room, you know, it's in Toronto. And I named it sixth anthem. And that's when Drake was finished in

More Life. I sent it to drink Yo, you need to like, I think you need to sun with this beat. I don't remember exactly what happened with then. Um I was in the I was in New York with amigos and I just pulled up the beat and Quad, you'll pull this it up. He went in the boot and maybe we made motor sport right down, Motor sport, Bola. Look, it was a bit more than just pipe it up, pipe motor sport, he said. You know what I'm saying. He did it though, Like I was like, it's just fire.

I had the version with just him on it. I was like bumping that the whip all the time, like, man, it's just fire. And then when he told me he made his little hancho play, I was like, oh, she is supposed to be, so what do you think? It ended up being this controversial haunto play of like Nicky on the Record, Cardi on the Record, lyrics changing like what I like. I don't know. I'm a fan of

Cardian Nikki, you know what I'm saying. I feel like they're both like very I do want her record on Cardis record with Scissor and you know Nikki's albums coming, Yeah, you might, you might, you might be you know, never know. Fans got you know what I'm saying, Stay tuned. Yeah, Urder beats with the Queen, But do you get involved with that? You already didn't know Frouds. I didn't know Frouds,

Yeah right right, And what is there anything else? Oh yeah, the motor Sport we had No Frods was like pretty big that. I feel like that was like a moment too.

I feel I feel like a lot of my records like moments like I don't Know No Frods like a moment like it was like a big comeback back and you got money all back together, like you know what I'm saying, so and Motorsport that's like a big moment for music, like the Megoes getting Nicki Minaj and Cardie B on the same record at like a controversial time where I feel like the blogs and stuff were kind of like amping enough to be more than what it was, you know what I'm saying, But like it's still it's

like that's like an amazing record, you know. It was very like I feel like that was like it was like that like like like all the guys like that record too. But it was also like a female driven record too because they were both on it and they both go in so it's awesome. And then it's like after that, then having nice for what which is another female record, you know, like the Girls definitely like a

murder bets of music. So even though Shopping had the convert because it was like it's Drake talking about Joe Button when the record, Like he probably was, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You end up being part of these records that are like can be controversial but also just a big cultural moments. But do you when you make the mets? Like it's almost like are you are you once you get the beat and it lay it

down and you involved with that? Are you mixing like everything to the end it was like one certain point is out of your hand. It's like like in terms of a record like that, well, a mix is never out of my hands. I usually talk engineers now not even touch my beats because like I feel like I have like such like like you know, like when my beat comes on, it's I'm gonna have The hardest drum Sport was the hardest hitting song at coach Ola this year. Like in fact, I didn't even go I know that

I probably heard. I probably heard the ship from the studio here, you know what I'm saying, Like like I just know, like my drum how my drums hitting like a lot of stuff nowadays, Like the engineers are just like they're not even really like mixing down my records. I'm telling them, you'll mix this on a two track,

like you don't really need to touch the ship. You're gonna suck it up half the time halftime when people will be mixing my ship, it's just like when I hear I'm just like, like, you know, they just funked up my whole mix, Like like I feel like the way I mixed music, it's like it's not technically correct, Like how like you go to school and be like, oh, like this is how you're supposed to mix, Like your levels are supposed to be here and here and here

and here. I crank my drums in a way where it's just like it's not supposed to be like that, but like that's what makes me me. You know, it could be off, but it's right to you. And it's in different different different sounds and drums, different snares and different and that's and that's how like a lot of the goats are, like you know what I'm saying, Like the way like Boy One the drums are, the way like Mike Dean's sins are the way like yeah, and even even talking like DJ Cale like he's like we

we had a whole conversation about records and stuff. He's like, you know, my records are always like they're always like like bright like bright, like like you know what I'm saying that way, and my records are always like heavy drums hard like you know what I'm saying, hi hat smacking you in the face all that. Even though you like to be the center of attention with the controversy with the motor sport and you know, the no shopping. I saw that you tweet that You've seen a lot

of producers and all the stub tweeting each other. He said, these motherfuckers turned into I g hos hey man, people gotta stop subtweeting knowledge. Man. I don't know. I don't know if everyone just has to keep positive vibesed man, why people like you see all that and everyone's beeping

each other and stuff. M h It's like, uh, just stay at all that ship, but do how do you say so again, like if this thing that you seem very centered, like, do you because I'm focused on myself like like I don't know, like sometimes you be like, oh, ship what's this guy doing. Oh, this guy's poper right now, like you know, like trying to like people be like, oh, I gotta like do what he's doing, and like do do something better than him? Like I'm just in my

own land, focused on myself. You know what I'm saying. I've definitely listened to music I'm a fan of. I'm a fan of other producer. I'm a fan of other rappers, are a fan of other music, you know what I'm saying. Like some of my favorite producers, like like Southside Wheezies,

like all these guys. And he's like, I fun like I folk with a lot of producers, you know, metches out here crushing it like you know, but I just like I really like to just focus on myself, stay in my own lane, keep that tunnel vision one where I gotta go because I'm creating my own legacy, right Ain't no one's gonna look out for you like yourself at the end of the day. And you're open to collaborations. It seems like that happens a lot in Canada. Like

Boy wanted to work with everybody. Vinals is working with this parton. But you said you're selective though right, like Q meet Small the guy you do a lot of stuff with, Yeah, because like it's organic, Like they hit me up a couple of years ago on Instagram and then like I was like, Yo, send me some ship, you know. But like a lot of this stuff, like when I like collaborated with producer like Scott Storch and stuff, like it's really organic, Like I'll meet him. I met him.

I'll meet him like in the studio somewhere, like like when we're finishing up like birds at this Travis Scott album he like bought by the studio or whatever, and like I met him for the first time. I was like, yo, like let's look up. Like I like working with like the O G s and stuff, you know, Like I like, like my twenty one birthday out here, I worked with like DJ Paul, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I like, I like doing it like that, Like I

feel like it's very special. I'm trying to think if there's any other older producer I work, but I think their their eyes. What do you think of the whole cultural divide like you mentioned earlier, like even some like Smoke Purp he's kind of affiliated like him and pump with the whole like fu j Cole and that whole thing in n Yeah. Yeah, what's your take on that, Like do you think it's just a it was just

a generational thing? Like why why do you think that sometimes there's that clash of like the new guard not necessarily always paying respect to the artists before them. Maybe someone thought that's the sub wrap line shot was against them. Maybe they thought that you fit. I don't know, you know what I'm saying, That's just how it goes, Right, There's always gonna be beef and I feel like I feel like like in rap music, especially in urban music, like that's just part of the that's just part of

the culture of rap. Like you need you need beefs here and there, you need controversy, Right, it's just another thing to wrap it up rapping about cars, bitches, drugs, money, get at someone's neck. I don't know. Speak of the ladies, like you can even create what the ladies in the studio and the party like once you three you literally had a party in the studio and you like wanted to impress everybody. And sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes I like it's be just like me and my boys in the

studio or like just me cooking up or whatever. But like sometimes you just get everyone in the studio and then just like cook some up on the spot. Test myself is that how when we work with Party next door is at that same sing Now it's more like it's more like just like us together, you know what I'm saying, cooking up and stuff. I don't. I don't think we've ever had like concession where it's just like been like a bunch of people and so Parties definitely

like very talented artists. Definitely one of the most talented artists ever of this generation. I think Parties definitely like like one of the best. You know, like his pen game is crazy, like no one could touch his pen. I like, you how to make these definitive statements? You got to I'm just like, you know, I'm putting it out there because I don't even I don't know if people have talked about this before, you know, Okay, definitive statements.

What what do you think? Because you are critical on your catalog? What do you think you're a top five productions? Nice for one nice what four and one four weeks ago? Definitely nice and definitely nice from what does it feel different to have a number one record, Like what does that? Does that? Honestly, I thought it was gonna but then when I woke up and I know it's not. I don't know. That's just mean I'm never I'm a type of person that like I'm never satisfied, Like I'm just

never satisfied, like like I'll want something to happen. I'll know I got a big thing happening. Then when it comes up, just like a like what's next, Like like that's and I feel like that's what's gonna keep my longevity going and keep me out here for a long time. I'll make a different person. The way I think about stuff is a lot different. A lot of people. A lot of people are like a lot of people if they got number one, they go to celebrate twenty days

or whatever. You're saying, maybe take a break, Like my one boy told me was like, oh, like if this song goes number one, like I think you're gonna like take a break, Like I'm just gonna make what Like I don't take fucking breaks down. I'm never gonna take a break. What I'm saying, like I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. Definitely blessed to have a number one, though. I was definitely waiting on it because the Mego's got I was like, I got my Grammy now before they did.

But then they got their number one before I did, so I was like, damn, I need to get a number one. What was the Grammy? Noma just used I'm of the Year Rap album in the year whatever. Okay, so nice for what's definitely one of your Yeah, um, what have I produced? Motorsport? I feel like that's like a crazy beat Portland's that beats crazy, the double platinum, triple platinum. Um, maybe it's a vibe for how different

it is. I'm definitely missing something. I know. I one to three, the one to three smoke, Yeah, that beats fire. That's five. But then I have to go like with you too, that's just like a different record from me. Honestly, I like to know Frosby too. I like I like all my beats, yeah, except except the first one. What was the Soldier Boys song? But like Elliott was alluding to a childis game? You know now number one? Were you upset about that? Nas? I woke out like, you know,

he did it, he did his thing. He's got it very like like like his records like impact in the world, and like, you know, that's what I like to see. I like to see music impact the world and like wa, people up and change stuff, you know, like like look at me, how he got out of jail and how he's talking, how he's changing in the world. Like that's what that's what that's what needs to come out of music,

all the positive stuff. That this is all the positive stuff coming out of music, right, That's that's what you want to see. That's what I want to see. At least it seem like you're very aware of like everything

going on in the game. I can say the thing they do you think that's as much as I see, Like I watch the news and ship but no, but definitely watching an interview, you know, like I don't watch the news, but like if I'm trying to be like, oh, like what's up going you to watch the club interview? Watch this one and that you don't watch Ellie Wilson riding around Bentley? When was it the kid? Like what

I'm saying, that was a scary experience. Why why? Why did a lot of texting I didn't know what's going on? I don't know. I think he was having a bad day. But no, But do you think that's my dog rich too? He came out, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, man, I was with him from day one. You've been finessing his way to the top, and I'm very happy for him.

You know, shutout risk the kid. But do you join information about like how do you how do you stay so inspired like to to just be just cook me up twenty beats, like you gotta find it so driven. You's got to find the balance and like just like not get lost in the sauce, especially you know in l a Like like I used to always like every day I'd be cooking up like fifteen beats a day

and ship, you know. Not now it's like now it's like I'll cook up like ten beats, like chill for like three days, go back to the the studio, like it's all it's like fun balance. I played a lot of video games. That's a good balance, you know. And then if we need to take a break, chose some girls

go out have fun. You know, I'm saying, maybe go back to make cool, go back to Toronto, see my family, like get grounded again and come back out here because at first I thought it was I thought it was like when I was out in l A. I was getting inspired because I used to go to like I used to fly from Canada to come out here for like a month or two and then go back home. So I used to thought like coming out here it

was inspired me to make music. But then I really found out before I moved out here, I found out going home and getting grounded that's what was inspiring me to come out here and make music. So then that balance. So then when I found that out like later in the progression, and then when I transitioned the moving out here, like when I when I actually found out being home and grinding myself to that was inspiring me to make music. And then I moved out here, so I was out

here for good. I kind of had to like find the balance and like like find a way to inspire myself to make music more out here. You know what I'm thinking, It's tricky, you know what I'm saying. Like everyone's got their own personal problems, life problems going on and stuff. You know, Like no, you you know what

I'm saying. Everyone sees what's going on on the Graham and like what people are tweeting and seeing them and this, and that they don't see the negatives and lives like we're all human too, Like I believe that you believe, Like you know what I'm saying. People sometimes think these rappers like robots, and they think Gucci is a real clone and ship, you know what I'm saying, But Gucci believes,

like I believe, like we're all the same people. We're just like we're just like the fans are just like us. We're just like the fans, Like, you know, do you dig for samples or do you? Honestly, recently now, I've been definitely getting way more creative with music because like, like it's not about like publishing and money to make and how many people are on a beat and doing

it beat myself of to make money. It's like, I'm trying to make the biggest records I can make, and I'm trying to make records that are going to be remembered, because I feel like a lot of music nowadays is not going to be remembered, right, So that's why that's why I felt like me and Drake both really agreed and really felt really good about this nice for a record.

I feel like this is like a class, Like it was like an instant class, Like the first time you heard You're like, oh ship, Like I mean straight to number one. People were like just like like that that record was crazy. We were in New York too. At the end of the press poo me and smoke when it dropped in the club. So like we went to One Oak the night it dropped in the in and Chase b was d J and travels to DJ and he's from New Orleans, so he was like he put

this ship thirty times. I was like, we literally heard the ship all night and he came up to he was like, man, this is such a big moment for the city and stuff. You know, I've never been to New Orleans. I'm trying to go sounding now or something that catch a bubble. Not with a anti though. Oh man, this is fun man, So you just look out for you geezy tour. Yeah, the tour a hell of a lot of place. But we can't really officially speak on

coming ship. I always got always got you probably, you know, and even if I do, I might leak some ship. Why is it available on streaming services? Um? Because I leaked that whole album. You're a leaker man, and yeah, they all got taken down. I'm pretty sure that's why see Battle of the Labels at times, the labels always love you don't even know they love me now. They let me like this indie kind of entity right now where you like, I know, the labels are throwing bags

at you. Yeah, I know there's some stuff behind the scenes going on that it's going to be now soon you guys might have to come back the next couple of weeks. Maybe, Well you said that, I think you said, I mean, obviously having a great year twenty team, but I saw something where you said something about seventeen you have learned a lot of life lessons, and you have definitely been learning a lot of lessons the last couple

of years. But just like negative stuff and positive stuff, you know, So, how are you justing to this success and to the level of fame, like to like you're putting yourself out there even more and more like is that? I'm yeah, just I don't know. That's something about me. Everyone around me knows that too. Just something I don't know. I don't get caught up in this ship. I just gotta keep going. And now till you get to the top. You get you get a number one, and you get

all this stuff going on. You gotta you gotta find like new new ways to motivate you and new stuff like I'm trying to do like murder size a real deal, like murder sized hot sauce, murdersized barbe Like I'm trying to like, you know what I'm saying, I'm getting on my merch finally, Like I'm like, finally different ways to inspire myself and mortially myself to keep going, you know, so keep going, murdered man, we respect it. Many murder sauce, Yo, I love, I love barbecue sauce two and ships am,

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