Rap Radar Rewind: Freddie Gibbs

that money. She's like the cutest little I have a daughter myself, but then you see other people's kids, like, damn, she cute too, and she's like a gap baby. Right, he's trying to have a play, man. She's the official gut baby. She did she did ask for gap Google. She working, she got, she got paid taxes. She working. Yeah, because like I got to talk to you last was the truth thing and you was just getting engaged to

your woman had a baby. About the baby, yay. Yeah, I mean you know, it's just you know, I got a family now, so it's you know, things definitely a little different, but you know, for the most part, is still the same on me. You know, I just moved a little different because I know I gotta go home and something now. At first I didn't, but you've been still been active with the music wise, not letting up.

Oh yeah, that that didn't do number increase. I gotta go hard and not since I got to you know, got a daughter, so um, you know, um, I wasn't. The crazy part about it is I wasn't even gonna release Shadow of a Doubt at the end of last year. But I was just looking at, you know, the overall scope of the rap game and where things was that, you know what I mean, and I just want I felt like I'll be cheating my fans if I didn't

give them nothing, you know else this year. So I was just you know, I gave him that the end. When I dropped it, I got a tour behind it. So I can't blame sold out seats right now, seats all over the country man, all over the country man. We sold out Chicago, l A, New York. You know,

we're doing it the correct way. But even before then, it seems like you still have momented from Panada going into that's like a game changes, like I'm gonna have momentum from pin YadA for the rest of my life, you know what I'm saying, because you know, pain YadA is one of those albums that's gonna stand alone and hip hop history because it ain't nothing else like it,

you know what I mean. You know, Um, the only thing that was similar to it was that the one he did, the mad Villain, you know, because I didn't even know what Madly it was man before I did that. You know, I was raised on you know, you g K and stuff like that. So when I, um, you know, when I got into that, I was just like, all right this, you know, it's kind of like trying to figure out a puzzle. So I figured the puzzle and I feel like I cracked the code, you know what

I mean. You know, he just you know madly really with with those tracks and the production and stuff we did, it really made me a way better rapper. Definitely sharpen my sword, but a whole lot. So you know, it made me open to try and you know, even newer things musically. So because shout over doubt it seems as opposed to Pinionta seems more so like you harmonizing, right right,

It's it's left field from Pinyadis. I didn't want to drop nothing similar to that, you know what I mean without you know, madly, I didn't even want to go in that direction, you know. I mean. The only song on Shadow of a Doubt that might be kind of similar to that is the one with Black Thought. That's that's just because he picked that beat. You know. Yeah, you guys tell that that was a Bob James joint. And then yep, yep, yep when we use that saying not of the sample. Man, a lot of people use it,

but you know, we freaked it real good. How did that come together? Like you guys talked about working for a while. Black Thought was on Twitter and you know, I was on Twitter, and then he was like, man, I want to rap with some real you know, real nick And I was like, then I'm in l a nigga, come fun with you. And then came Tom Out. He came up. He just came in studio that same night. That's crazy. As soon as I tweeted him, he was like, I'm about to pull up on you, and I said,

all right, come on, I'm in here. So he came through and we did like two records and it worked out. So where was the other record that I can't tell you? How did you Gucci mane? Right, how did that happen? Oh man? That's uh, shout out the Gucci Man. Gucci Main locked up in any End state prison, I think, you know. So that was just a phone call to somebody close to him and we made that happen. And that's like danged out records on there. Yeah, definitely, And

you know I want to mix it up. You know, I'm the only person that got black oh that and Gucci Main on the same project. You know what I mean. That just it just speaks, you know, volumes to my versatility. And I'm mad at than that. You really put my favorite out there man in Securities. Yeah, yeah that. You know, records like that, Man, they'd be hard for me to listen to because they so real, you know what I mean. It's hard for me to really, I can't even bump it.

You know, I might break down in the cars something like that. You know, I know what it took to push those emotions out on that record and all of that, you know what I mean, Like, you know, it was it was hard. It was a long night doing that, you know what I mean, but I love the record. People love the record. They love to you know, the genuineness and you know, me opening up on it. So what do you think it really captures, like in terms of like when your catalog, like in terms of that

song itself. Um, I think that, uh, it's records like that and and and uh Freddy Gordy, they just like real, you know, real reflective. You know. I think that, uh, you know, me growing up and you know, me having

a child. Really, you know, it's giving me the opportunity to really reflect on a lot of things that you know that I was doing, you know, in the streets and all of that, and you know, the whole the whole shooting incident that really woke me up to and I was just like, man, you know at the you know, I was just outside talking to you know, Jay and in a lobby about it. I was like, man, we gotta I gotta go home to my my family, you

know what I mean. And you know, I just you know that those emotions was just pouring out of me when I was just making those those last couple of records. A shadow of a doubt, you know, because I think those the last two that I did like one of the records, Uh fucking up to count the video is really pollant to like that. Yeah, like how did that one come about? Oh? Man? I attribute all that to

the Jonah Schwartz, you know what I mean? He Um, he directed a couple of videos from me thugging and deeper. Every time he and him link up, it's like, you know, I just like, you know, he just picks my brain and we just put the vision, you know, to bring it to life. Man, It's crazy. All I had. All I gotta do is tell him a story and then he'd just you know, set me down and put me where I need to be, and you know kind of

you know, capture every everything we need to capture. There's little things that you can capture to make something real cinematic, you know what I mean. Like, um, the last scene of that video, when I had the kid in the Trump and us together, I had the other kids. You know, I gave him a choice. I was like, you know, you could either end up in his trunk with him, or you can and of your business, you know what

I'm saying. So you know, and and you know, I've been in those situations before as a you know, as a young child and you know what I mean with older guys and dealing with them and you know, being in the street. So you know, I you know, just kind of wanted to paint that picture, you know what I mean. And you're constant collaboraty Like we said, you worked with Gucci forty you know, Black Thought, even though

you're not necessarily a quote unquote mainstream guy. Like like, how do you pull these collaborals from people that you know so unexpected that, Um, I think that I think that people just respect what I do. Man. I mean, you know, I I've been doing it for a while. You know, I came up in the same class of the you know, the the j Cole's and you know the um you know the Kindrickling Mars and guys of that nature, you know what I mean, Meeks and all

the mean that same you know Zoe. So it's like, um, you know, I think that you know, I don't have the same, like you said, the same mainstream you know what I mean, looks at those guys, get I mean, for one, I'm not I haven't been signed to the major label. You know, probably since like inten ued you know what I'm saying. So you know what I mean. So that that that alone right there, you know what I mean, It just shows you know that I gotta you know, work two times harder than the next man.

So even to even be right here on the podcast, you don't, let know, you know, Rudy put niggers, So no Rudy books and I ain't no bullshit niggers on this ship. So it's just like, you know, I think that it's just you know, it's other things that I do to keep me relevant and keep me a part of the rap game and things like um, you know, dropping you know, classic albums like paying YadA, you know,

and just standing to all of my fan base. Man, I went and I went on tour with a with Techno and like two years ago, and you know I didn't. I'm not a fan of Technogy music, you know what I'm saying. I wasn't at the time. You know, I didn't really you know, I looked at it, like you know, but I looked at the money, make the machine, that business slide of it, and I was like, I respect

I can respect this, you know what I'm saying. So you know when I went on when I went on that road with him, and really saw you know what I mean. I was like, Man, you know, if he could do this, I can do this, you know what I Man? You talk about that a little bit on No More Cocaine Parties in the l A a a little bit right, You said million dollars toll over, no spin. Yeah, yeah, I just I gotta turn this to a million dollar business, you know what I'm saying, Like, without nobody giving me nothing,

you know what I mean? I had to. You know, when I hear a lot of people say this term, get it out the wood, get it out the mud, And I really got it out the mud, you know what I mean? So you know I ain't taking no advance from nobody or anything. I didn't have no music startup money. I had to generate that myself. And you know, to see a guy, you know, make three million dollars in merching thyselves in two in like three months, that was a motivation enough for me to keep doing what

I gotta do. Speaking of that particular record, you know it's a mad live record, Kanye, No More Parties in l did you have that could initially? Listen? Man, I'm gonna tell y'all. Wrapping something, wrapping something, all y'all that want to you know, get on them, you know, do the mad lived thing. That's cool. When I saw Kanye's working Mad Lip, I was like, oh, yeah, that's stuight. You know, I'll just be sitting back, wait and see what records they're gonna put out, because I got all

of them. So you had that already and I got everything. I got all the all the beats you think you're about to get, I got him because I wrap on them. The best was he at the time when people weren't really kind of messing with him, Like, what was it do you think that that you guys connected with in terms of even though he were so opposite? No, no, no, no, it wasn't. It wasn't that people wouldn't messing with him

because badly have always on doing what you gotta do. Um, I think that, Uh, we just got mutual friends, you know what I mean. Lambo and his manager Egon, they real close and you know, probably like over over some drinks or something. He was like, man'd be crazy. We should do a record. Man. You know when they first brought it to my attention and I was like, what, man, I'm not m f doom my nigga. I don't want you know, I'm not no backpack on my nigga, Like

I don't want to be, you know in that. I don't want niggas to look at me like you know, a backpacker or you know, some backpack wrap ship my nigga from Gary and know you know, the East Side, and they ain't with that backpack ship, you know what I'm saying. So that's how I thought niggas was gonna look at me. So I was like, man, what the funk? But then, you know what I mean, I kept seeing niggas. You know, it's it rap is like you know, it's always different climates or wrap, you know what I mean.

You know you gotta do ship to stand out, you know what I mean. I don't want to, you know, repeat with this nigga doing and that nigga doing. So I was like, all right, man, all right, fucking I'm gonna go left, you know what I mean. And then when he put all the beasts on the table, I was like, man, fuck it. You know what I mean, I'm gonna show the niggers I could wrap as good as motherfucking jay Z and Black Thought and all these niggas. Fucking I'm about to use this ship as my platform,

and that's what I did. And I think that, you know, I'm probably you know, I think that motherfucker's considered me one of the top five niggas wrapping period. And like I said, I might not have to you know, the hit record or whatever, but you know, Ship, I mean, I rich like these niggas. But record, even though you had the stats, why didn't you hop on it until Kanye?

You didn't feel the motivation or inspired because it's Kanye Kanye touching and I get a chance to touch it, then, you know, Ship, why not that's gonna you know, add a little bit morementum momentum to it. I saw the Kanye pitching allway. I took a picture next to it, like you know what I'm saying. So you know, anything that he'd do that I can, you know, come right behind the rap on. I'm gonna do that, you know what I mean. Don't leave none of your beats out

for me. Kanye is like a rip alough but took it down and what happened to be then they took it down because they kin't touched it. You know, when you sprinkle cocaine on that thing. A real nigga. When a real nigga get the rapping this ship that these

backpack niggas and shipper rap, they get scared. Nigga coming a room with a bunch of nerve ass niggers, and I could spit just like them niggas and they'd be like, damn man, ship man, Okay, man, you're talking about drugs and all that ship we talked about, the astronomical stars and moves and all that bullshit. I'm not about to wrap around you, my nick I'm gonna give it to you like nigga were selling crack. I'm gonna give it to you the the motherfucking point blank period. You have

so much versatility though, Man, That's what I'm saying. Man, Like, it's not you know, it's not the way to wrap you know what I mean. I like all kind of rap. I like motherfucking j Ruter Damager, and I like pimpcy Nigga, you know what I mean. So I do a song like that nigga one day, then one day go do a goddamn whole singing song like PIMC. It's just all about making good music, man, Like without overstretching yourself of course, you know what I mean. I'm not gonna you know,

about to go. You think we were talking about earlier. I think it was the last episode about Designer and obviously his record that's real big, but they think he sounds like future. You know that you have a skit on the album with Snoop. You're talking to Snoop the interview about you know, what do you sound like? What's the gay? And then supposed to sound like you know what I mean. I think the one thing about gives to me that stands out is that you are true original.

You know the way you're sound, and that's so kind of rare in this climate, and even more so now that you've that, you've now to me satisfied being independent, you know what I mean, because you know how to monetize it the right way. You know, you kind of in this solid zone of like this is just what Freddie gives this. Yeah, I don't. I don't think, like I said, and I think I'm definitely gonna have a way longer career and a lot of these guys, you know what I'm saying. Like, so, like I said, Man

Technown was the motivation. I was like, damn, like this. You know, you can't really take nothing away from him. You can't say, oh, this ain't that or this ain't that. Like he got his own lane and he making more money. And a lot of these niggas, a lot of y'all nigga signing y'all life away on the dotted line, publishing everything nigga I own all. Freddy gives anything, Freddie Gibbs. It seemed like before you wanted that validation, like one

of that big contract. You wanted that at the you know, we we see a nigga like me might not get the credit that I deserve for making this independent ship look cool. You know what I mean? All these little niggas now they come out and they signed the labels, they signed it just that, but they're not gonna announce it, you know what I mean. See, I hadn't been I kind of have been through like, you know, kind of like two eras of this like rap ship. Because when I came in, it was like, oh six, I was

a young maigg. I was nineteen twenty years old. You know what I'm saying. I ain't really I was only been rapping for like a year, my nigga, I didn't really know what the fun was going on. I was around all this interscope ship. I was like, what the fund is? It's Craig, you know what I'm saying. It was kind of like the g unit era, And it was like you at that time, oh six oh sething you had to have a record du to be validated in the rap game. You talked about that on rear View. Yeah,

it's like, yeah, that's what I thought. I thought that that that this was the way the format. But then you know, when I started, you know, getting you know, diving into the more so independent game of it and seeing it. I was booking my own shows and packing them out and things of that nature, and I started like selling records and making money off of it. I'm like, okay, well fun, Why would I sign that when you know I'm walking into motherfucking office with this advantage you're trying

to give me like in my pocket, my nigga. So so I'm good and they don't got I got a phone car outside and a couple of houses. Nigga was up like, so why did you say, like the internet ship this music are up? Um? Because I mean it helped it, and it sucked it up in a in a certain sense. I mean because you know, of course, you know the records, don't you know, sell like they used to. That's what. In that sense, it kind of

sucked it up. But on another note, you know, the streaming ship is kind of taking off, and you know ship, and they could be in the streaming check. I'm like, allright, goddamn fucking stream that. I don't give a funk. If you're bad or you're streaming, you do whatever you want to do as long as them get them sound exchange checks keep coming in. That motherfucking they. I don't care. However,

you gotta get it now. It's you know, I feel like they, you know, they're getting around to really monetizing the streaming and you know the whole way you go about getting your music now. So I'm with it, man, either way it goes long as I can get a check, I don't give a funk how you get this motherfucker get it on the corner. It's a nigger down there with the Freddy gives blue that you can get it

from him. I don't give a funk. Is all good, you know what I'm saying, so it's like that's I guess your definition of success is not necessarily ain't the fame, man, You know what I'm saying That I mean hell, like I said, when I walk outside, this nigga is walking up to me trying to take pictures all day, you know what I mean. But and I take everyone and sign every you know what I mean, autograph because I remember it was the time when then no nigga want

to take a picture with me. Nobody wanted me to sign ship. So you know, I hold all that true to my heart is you know, just my in action with my fans, and you know, I feel like they feel closer to me than most niggas, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, you can feel like, you know, a nigga, a fan can say some bullshit to me on Twitter and I'd be like, yeah, nigga, the Clippers ain't better than the motherfucking You know that we talked sports, you know, we talked ship. You know what I mean,

Just don't get disrespectful and ship. But you know, for the most part, you know, I just try to keep that good relationship with the fans, and you know, you could be more interactive with them with this intern ship now, so it's cool. I was gonna say, I mean, caw is a snapchat king, but your snapchat game is some nose cal You better watch out there. You're paid on the boom that caled I just got snap cat hold on callin now you the snap God, I'm gonna get you know, let me be, Let me be big baby

Jesus of the snap. The top three might be callid lee or and Freddy gets yeah, I'm getting up that I'm definitely in the top five. Talk about using it and how did you how did you get into you know what? Man? And presenting what you wanted, your your you know what you were going to share? Like my baby mama told me about snapchat, and I was like, get out of here, man, I don't need no more ship. I got Instagram, Twitter, I'm on Tender and I'm just

playing tender booty bitch. But I was just like, man, I don't need no more ship. Man, this is about social media ship that you're gonna get mad at me for talking to holes on I don't need this ship, you know what I'm saying. Then when I got into it, I was like, damn holes can send you the motherfucker videos and did a delete. I was like, okay, I'm gonna sunk with this ship. Then you know, it just

got fun. I just started doing funny ship on that, you know, just showing showing my comedics side, you know what I mean Because a lot of you know nicks be thinking I'm all serious all day and people like, oh man, I didn't know I could walk up to you. I'm like, why, my nigga come on anything and dog stand with you on right? So something like I'm out of something. Hey man, it's a history behind the I'm out. My manager Plunt started the I'm out ship, and then

I just started repeating that ship and ship. My fucker's just got hooked onto it. You know what I'm saying. Ay, time the nigga see something he like, he's like, oh fun that I'm out, And I was like, hell, yeah, you're right there, we are. I'm out. Anytime we disapprove of some ship, I'm out. We out this motherfucker. Don't funk with it. But like that connection to your fans and being recognized, are you literious? How you move like this is your first time in New York in two years?

Like yeah, Um, definitely, man. I mean you know, like like I said, again, you know, I got a child now, so you know, every every person that you know walk up to me, I definitely you know, look at him. You know, not a potential threat. But you know, you know, like I said, man, I gotta go home to my baby at thind of the night. So you never know what the niggas are. It's all kind of niggas walk up to me and I'll be walking around by myself. I don't be with a bunch of niggas and ship

like that. Man. It's all about, you know, walking with God and not walking in fear. Man, we're walk in fear. That's when some ship happened. And um, you know, I just you know, just just keep my faith, man, and I try to worry about stuff like that. I definitely take proper precautions. You know, we do that thing legal. You know, we're just gonna drive to this motherfucker with truck full of guns. But you can't do that. Yeah, that you're bad. I did in New York. So you know,

we just do it doing things the proper way. Now. What happened last time, it was crazy because I did the show at the rough Trade, and um, Williamsburg, you know a very tone area, right. I definitely nothing was gonna happen to me in Williamsburg. But you know after the show, I mean I had a weird feeling that night, man, because there was people in the green room. I didn't really know. It was just you know what I'm saying, it was it was a lot of things going on.

It just felt funny, man. And I came outside and a friend of mine was with me. Your names Lauren, and um she was getting she was getting in the truck me. It was meet my my Homie, Big Willie, my DJ Lauren and one of her friends and um, so Lauren was getting on my side of the truck. She stood up on the little step rail because another girl that we know was walking up the street and she said hey, and she looked at her and was like and when she looked at her, I looked up.

And when I looked up, I've seen two niggas in mass walking towards the truck. And I'm like, I looked at what I was say, what these niggas doing? You know what saying? The nigga said, Halloween are this mother and ship? I just you know my you know, natural instinct just told me to move. As soon as I moved, they just shot the truck up. I ran. I ran back in the building in the rough trade. They came in and shot the bar up, you know what I mean.

And you know, try to get a nigger ghost. But you know, for the most part, you know, ship Lauren, if if she didn't look up and be like, hey, you know, I wouldn't have seen it coming. But you know, I don't know what it came from or what it stand from, you know, But I don't need to get into all that. But you know, I'm here, and you know, I'm blessed. It definitely opened my eyes up, you know. It let me know that I'm not just you know, a little Freddie from Gary and you're unawrapping on more.

You know, I'm kind of you know out here now. So, did you have a resentment towards New York after that? Is that the like the reason for not being here for so long? Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with y'all because y'all my friends. But yeah, I definitely did for a minute. You know, you can't just come out and be like, man, fuck New York. You know what I'm saying. But uh, you know, I felt betrayed. I felt like,

you know, the people around me betrayed me. I felt like, you know what I mean, like, you know, I felt disrespected, you know what I mean from somewhere that I you know, I feel like I showed so much love to you know what I mean, from you know, from from something like uh, you know, to try to because these niggas really trying to kill me, you know what I mean. It wasn't like you Yeah, it was an assassination attempt, you know what saying, Like these niggas trying to like

take my life. They wasn't trying to like take my jury. They weren't trying to had a rolex on me. They weren't trying to take none of that. They could have ran up and be like give me all that ship, my nigga, and it would have been theirs, But these niggas was trying to actually kill me. So I was like, man, like, what the funk? Who hate me this much? Out here? You know what I mean? So, yeah, it was definitely a lot of resentment, you know what I mean, towards

you know, different people. Um, there was a lot of confusion, you know what I mean, Because I was thinking, you know, certain rappers was involved with the ship, you know what I mean, and I was hating them, and I was pulling up on their ship about to shoot. They shot up too, you know what I'm saying. But then I was like, na, man, you gotta control your emotions and

things of that nature, you know what I mean. And you know that that happened, like I think, my baby moms was like I want to say, six months pregnant, so I didn't really get a chance to like, you know, that hate was definitely in me, you know what I'm saying. But you know, then the baby came right after that, so they gave me a chance to kind of release

all of that. It was negative energy and just chill And I didn't come back out here for you know what I mean, a year whatnot, and then it was just you know, it just gave me time to really, like just chill out, you know what I mean. I love I love it. I love New York. I hate us by him. You know, I used to live at Harlem, you know, right, Nah, I left that ship, man, you know what I'm saying. But you know the first time you've really literally been back in Yeah, yeah, ever since

you know, left my spot. I mean, you know what the crazy part about it is, it's like when I was living out there, like I told you, my nigga, I moved like a regular nigga, you know what I mean. You know, sometimes I don't really know how famous am

or whatnot. So I come outside and niggas is telling me, like, niggas is rapping, niggas calling me like, hey man, you live on such and such a hundred sixteenth from Boo And I'm like, nigga had fuck you know in my career back you know what I'm saying, Like, nigga, you got niggas following me and ship like that, you know what I mean. So niggas was telling me, hey man, watch who you ure? Man? They said you'd be walking

around hard and with jewelry on the ship. I'm like, so what, motherfucker's a lot of niggas are wrong with jewelry on Like motherucker's wanna come at me? Why because I rap? You know what I mean? And I just you know, that's it's just you know bullshit, you know what I mean that that we go through in the in the black community. Man. We got that crab in a bucket mentality, man, And you know it's sucking us up, you know, because I remember on how you talk about like,

you know, the way you're living. Your mom thought you were gonna end up dead. Of course, yeah, definitely, so like to see that. It's kind of ironic for someone want to do that to you and you ended up actually being successful. Now, Yeah, the funk up part about that is, man, it's just because the nigga been through so much, um, you know, stuff on the streets, you know what I mean. That was the first time that

I got into a shooting. Well it was kind of like involving some rap ship as a like a rap you know, a rap star type ship, you know what I mean. Because ain't nobody ever attack me after my show or nothing like that. If I got in some ship, it was because I was actually doing some bullshit or you know, shouldn't have been there I started it, or

you know what I mean, or vice versa. But you know, with this, I was just you know, conducting conducting my business, and you know what I mean, and nobody that you know, runs they you know, legal business, wants to get shot at that their legal business. I don't give a funk you know who it is or what they say. So that's what I was looking at. You know. I used this as a tool to get away from all of that bullshit. And you know when when they start overlapping,

that's when they get sucked up. I feel like this is the right time to to you know, book Highline and do it show. Like why why do you think this felt the time to kind of come back, Like I said, Man, it's been almost two years, and you know, I just you know, I can't not come to New York. I just felt like, man, you know, it's just time to go back out there and do a show. We sold it out, so that's good. You know what I'm saying. We sold it out, so that's good. Yeah, and I

love it here. I missed it, man, you know what I mean. I missed I missed being here. I missed the people here. I got a lot of friends here. Like I said, I used to live him, man, you know, back and forth. I'm back coastal, you know what I mean. So I'm probably gonna get another spot out because my

baby mama like it out here. Man. But you know what I'm saying, but you know, for the most part, you know, I just had to shake that ship off my back and really, you know, just get things in the perspective and you know, I got you had this money in New York and you gotta come to you, right. You know who his lady is, right, yeah? Ericson? Man, Yeah, man, that's crazy. How is Mr Dickinson. He's good. He was just he was just at my house with his granddaughter.

So you know that's that. He's a proud grandpa. Yeah, he's definitely a proud grandpa. You know, he got little, he got a little bity kids. Damn. So my daughter and my daughter uncle only like ye big dick out here, strug Dick. That's the homie though. Man, it's crazy. You always say you guys have a great, great sports fan. That's man. That's pretty much like. Yeah, I told him that's the main reason I talked to his daughter. That's your dad. That's my idol. Hell yeah, going over the

house beautiful. But it's cool though, you know what I mean. He like, you know, having it's like having another father figure, you know what I mean. And you know that's always good. It's always good to you know, be around you know,

rich niggas. They teach you how to stay rich and ship like that man, So you know I'll be around him and like Marcus Allen and all them old as niggas, and Marcus adn't got a little baby too, that nigga markets that air still here, the Poles Man Oh nineteen eighty one running back a Niggers getting to it Another guy your life foods also like comic relief. Big Time watts Man why was he now on the album? Explained laughing. Big Time wats was on the album on shadow of

a Doubt he was. He was on packages you're here in the background said what what the fund? You say? You're probably here? But he didn't really get a big heat he was now Now he don't have his own track the next rip, but Big big Time watches open the show for me in Chicago, you know what I mean? He turned up, He getting his own following his own friends. I got a bad nigga iPhone this week. We can get on Instagram, Snapchat. So we're teaching him how to be,

you know, keen with the social media. But he's crazy, like he just loves alcohol. He's always drunk. The nigga love man. The nigga stabbed the nigga when out fall in front of me. Man, And since then I've been we've been attached at the hip. Man. You know, Man, I don't know. I thought, you know, normally the ship have scared nigga offer this, this ship attracted me. I'm like, damn, man, my uncle crazy as fun, but I love him. I didn't want to go. I'll follow him anyway. You go,

follow him to the park, all of that. You know, he like, that's like my other dad, you know. So it was he the one that introduced you to like guns and pistols. Oh yeah, yeah, him and my uncle Waine rest in peace, you know what I mean. But yeah, you know they was in the streets, so h it was it was inevitable for me to touch that. I had to give me a piece of that too. You know. I needed some of that money, you know what I mean. Like, you know, I definitely wanted to, you know, make my

mother proud, go to school, and I tried to college. Yeah, I went. I tried to play football. Ever for me, man, you know what I mean. Growing up, it was either like nigga, I'm either gonna be an athlete or dope dealer. It's either either or I ain't you know. I was like, nigga athlete, dope deal little bus nigga. I don't want to be nothing else. I don't want to work no job. Man. I watched my mom carry me off for thirty years.

I was like, nigger, ain't doing that. But it's so ironic because you got your sister, you got your brother who's a doctor. Now, yeah, the nick is a doctor. I can't believe that ship's crazy. Here's a guyd of colleges and we need to switch jobs. Let me here, let me come here and work for you and now now, because if I see some bad pussy, I'll be like, I'm a man. You put him through college though, right, Yeah,

definitely man. I helped him, help him get his get his way through the ship that he didn't get scholarships for. You know, whatever my brother asked asked me for, I'm gonna give it to him because you know what I mean, I saw, you know, me and my stepfather was just talking about this. We we saw my brother's drive, Like, but you know, I'm out best with holes doing bullshit. You know what I'm saying This nigga was in the books,

you know what I mean? And you know, should I I commend him for that because it's tough, you know, coming out of Gary, and ain't that many my doctors on my block. My nigga, he the only one, you know what I'm saying, So you know, I definitely, you know, salute to him. He my hero, you know what I mean. So what would make your parents say, like your brain dad?

You know when because man, I was Man, I was coming in the house, nigga, blood on my shoes, motherfucking you know, ship, drugs in the ceiling, you know what I mean. Your mom's just catching me with you know, sitting Nia was dibbling and dabbling everything and this is my this is my best friend. Run here the ale. He could tell you. He from my black We grew up net right next door to each other. So it's just like, you know, it was just a lot of ship, you know what I mean. Me and my mom. My

mom was just in there like with me. She was just talking. She was like, man, I'm so proud of you. Man. She stopped and told me that. I was like, damn, she ain't heard that in a while. You know. She was just like man, because I I know, I know what you came from. Like Nigga, I wrote you off, you know, and you know, but I prayed for you, and you know you turned out, you know, the way you wanted to turn out, you know, not like nobody else wanted you to turn down. So it's all good.

And you say she broke your neck for you, like on Straight Killer. Yeah, man, my mom used. I told you my mom retired from the post office. Man, that was a good feeling, you know, to have her be able to retire, you know what I mean. And she can you know, depend on me, you know what I mean, because she put in a lot of work. She's me, my brother, my sister, and my dad. My dad would never really work in the job and it was always yeah until he got called on some crooked ship and

had to leave. But you know what I'm saying. But you know, I got a family for the crooks man. Chas is fun, Yeah, Christmas is fun, man, I got a family for the crooks man. And you know, but you know my mom she really you know, she I've seen you know, the pain and she she went through working hard, and you know, and you know, just like a lot of other moms that help hold down multiple jobs and take care of multiple people, you know what

I mean. Like, it's a lot of black women you know that do that, and you know they don't get the credit they deserve for that. So what's the relationship like with that? Now? We're cool. We just we we hadn't actually we hadn't spoke and like, uh, like a year, year and a half, you know, do you know our differences and things and things of that nature and whatnot. But you know, I had to show in Chicago last week. We talked and you know it was all good. Me

and my dad. We're good. Man still right or wrong, you know, you know, at the end of the day, is still my father, you know what I'm saying. However, I feel about you know, the shitty dude and she feel about the ship. I do because it was a time, you know, me and my pops, you know ship. You know, we was doing the bullshit together in the streets, you know what I'm saying. And you know he wasn't really you know, turning me off of it. He was kind

of encouraging it, you know what I mean. And it was kind of something like that, Nigga, I can tell you all kind ofcous This nigga put me on all kind of licks, you know what I'm saying, Like he was just that kind of nigga, Like he was always trying to like scheme on something or get over on somebody, you know what I mean. And you know that kind of you know, it kind of sucked him up in the end. But you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, he kind of instilled instilled that in me at a

at a young age, you know what I mean. But I'm glad that I was, you know, um mature enough to kind of come out of that and know that, you know, you can't live your life like that. Man, this bad carm all good money and good money and you know it's all, it's all, it could be all funked up for you real quick. One thing is good. It is chicken And this guy was giving out how it was chicken at that. I'm a legend in Chicago for that ship. They love me Chicken up. I had

to and I've seen that. I've seen that nigga Michael Jackson do that and Gary, Hey, y'all think that cartoon ship was fake? Saw that that was real? That nigga pulled up. The KFC came and got how many people that nigga ordered all the chicken. My nigga, that ship was real nigger. That's my nigger. He pulled up Michael Jackson. Then they pulled up in a limo, throwing chicken out the window. I was like, God, I said, we had

a mac while here. He was saying that. Teddy Valley told me the story that when they were doing making The Dangerous album, they were living in the Netherlands. Every Wednesday he'd had Popeye's Day and the butler would come in and bringing Popeyes and they just all the Popeyes crazy every Wednesday. Yeah, Michael love that fried chicken, Fried chickens KFC ship. We should have put that nigga Mike on some Harolds. He probably Harold Sloppy. That mother fucking

glove would have been all funked up. Niggas. How could this house? It's pretty good. You kind of gotta you gotta be from the area to really appreciate it, you know what I'm saying, Because nigga's be coming out of town and like, man, I don't really like this ship. Like while they said some about it a long time ago, and then me and the nigger had words on Twitter, like nig hey, nigga, you can't be dissing the motherfucking hometown chicken. I went to Chicago for the first time.

I had Uncle Remus though. Yeah, yeah, that's good too. That's good to Remus side. It's good. I prefer Harolds, you know, because harolds. You know, Gary twenty minutes outside of Chicago and Harolds. We had Harolds in Gary too, so we didn't have to go, you know, to Fi to get get the Harolds. We hear Harols and our hood right on the East side, so that was we were smashing it. I make my mom. I'm like, I'm gonna get me a folk piece, and my mom that's

back when the nigger had a beeper. My mamma beat me. She put the code in for Harols. It'd be like, you're like, nigga, get me a folk piece for Harolds. You put the colde in the beeper and it was all good. Man, you gotta page at twelve, right, So ye had a page at twelve. Ship You ain't that wet man. We had to get them sacks off, man. We wanted some money. Man, excuse me, Diego. You're getting sacks off checking. We had to get it off. Man, coming coming to coming to the eat, come to East

side of Gary. Man, it is real, poor man. You know what I'm saying. It's funked up. Man. It's a lot of it's a lot of half knots, you know, and not having ship make you a materialistic nigga. You know, I think when people say Gary in there, I think they think Freddy Gibbs. They don't think Michael Jackson. Honestly, no disrespect for the I don't want to dispect, of course, but I mean Mike. I don't think Mike's defined by Gary, Indiana. He's such a Michael's not human, you know. I mean, ye,

Michael ellis from Neverland. I can't believe Michaels. I still don't mean Mike from I'm like, god damn. But you know I came up from Gary. You know, they was in Gary in the sixties. It was a different kind of geary man. It was still white people that, you know what I'm saying. But before you know, Man Hatcher ran all the white people out, you know what I'm saying, Mike, and then was you know, was was up there you know what I'm saying. And they was doing their thing,

you know what I mean. And Joe really put that work and he hit the niggas in bars and all kinds of ships singing that nigga niggas had to mop the flow after they got done singing it all kinds of ship bad. So you know ship, you know, anybody to come out of Gary, Man, you gotta respect that you adopted l A as like I guess your third home because even you said you want to be buried there, you have a record to it. Yeah, I live there, man,

and you know, you know my daughter was born. Now, I mean, I just love l A. I made a lot of money in l A working around the l A California period, you know what I'm saying that the Bay, and you know I definitely get a lot of love in the Bay. Rest in peace to my homeboy Jack. That was, you know, one of my close homies. You

know when I first moved to California. He made sure that I was always good on whatever I needed, you know what I mean, if whether I was in the Bay or at like you know him A P nine and my homeboy chose the whole mom They always showed me love and I never ever had to worry about nothing, and it you know, it became like a second home to me. Right. So when did you move to l A though, Because I know I moved to l A. Um like oh five, I think in the Scope wants to give me a deal, like you know, o folks,

something like that. I went out there, uh, sleeping on this nigger couch until I got my little Interscope deal. I had my Interscope deal for about six seven months, got dropped and moved to Atlanta, and like oh eight, I hated that ship, and then I'm moved back to l A. You know what I mean. So Atlanta was like a six seven month thing, you know, and not that I love it. And I loved all the some big booty bits down there, like y'all, I'm coming down there next week. I can't wait to go to Foley's

and all the ship clubs and all that ship. But I was not. I was going through uh the press time, you know, personally when I was in Atlanta. So I just you know, I had to get back out to California to really kind of jumped my career back off, you know, Because you talk about that like a little bit on rif you talk about those hardship times, you say like you were sleeping, you were chicks and putting you out in cars like talk about that grunge when when I moved back to l a man like, um,

I had no money, you know what I'm saying. So you know I was rounding motherfucker looking for a dope plug like everybody else. I'm going to, you know, the Mexicans, you know, whoever I could find, you know what I mean, and ship you know, fucking I wouldn't above you know, I sold cracking Gary, so I figured it. I wouldn't above selling some cracking Hollywood. So whoever needed some coke or whatever. I was, you know, doing what I had to do to get off my homeboy out, you know

what I mean. My engineer right now, I see it. I was sleeping on his couch and I was like, man, I can't be sleeping on your couch, man said, you know, I just didn't feel like a man, and I just, you know, you know, drop my nuts and was like I gotta get out here, and you know, really do what I gotta do, you know what I mean. And it was a lot of nice you know, ship I stayed ship. I lived everywhere in l A from Getdam south Central to Santa Monica, you know what I mean.

I used to live on forty one Maine on the street with a this Mexican game called the Hangout Boys, you know what I mean. And they used to sell heroin, you know, and I used to interact with them, and you know, it was just, you know, it was just

a lot of tough times. You know. I had to, you know, live with people I ain't want to live with, deal with bitches I don't want to deal with, you know what I mean, Sleeping in cars and ship like that, you know what I mean, Crying at night to yourself, you know what I mean, This ship that you know, certain ship that you can't really you can't call home back to Gary, Indiana and be like, yo, I'm doing real funked up out here, you know what I mean, Because you don't want to, you know, you don't want

everybody to look at you like no failure. They already looked at me like like a failure. When I lost my record deal. Everybody back home was like this nigga sucks. Fuck that nigga. That nigga either I told him, I told you, G unit didn't want that nigga. You know, So it was just you know, it was real. Um, you know it was it was tough times. It was it was real a tumultuous time for me. Man. You know,

you know it was righte and die. It was like when I got on that double x Cel Freshman cover and nick I was still sound crack and I was still doing robberies nigga. You know what I'm saying. Super active. So so was it the extra Cell cover that was

like the watershed moment for you? Or was it when things started to click like Okay, I could live stop living this life and now because I still didn't stop living that life for a little minute, but it was like, um, the thing with that, I couldn't believe these niggas actually wanted me on that ship. For one thing. I was like, man, DJ Ski told me. I was like he was like, yeah, man Freshman cover, right, I don't like right? Like, I was like, white boy, you lying shut up. You know

what I'm saying. Cause I did a mix tape with him, you know, yeah, shout out the DJ Ski. I just seen that nig in the airport. That's the home, but I did that take with him. He's like, hey man, I didn't know what ever ever go. I'm like, Nigga, shut up, didn't put me on the fucking double X sale and nigg I'm gary Nan and they don't do that, nig But when they did, I was just like, whoa nigga and Ship. I'll remember Nigga being at that being at that uh at that shoot. Man, it was crazy

dog off, Like damn it. It was like J Cole and who else is Nipsey hustle with Kalifa, Big Sean. That's I think that was a real classic freshman class

right there. Yeah, I'm you know, I'm overwhelmed, you know, in that motherfucker because you know all these niggas they you know, Ship, Ja Cole, he with jay Z, you know withs Khalifa, just got the you know, the big deal with Atlantic and all of that ship, and you know Nipsey was you know who he was out there on the West Coast and Ship, and you know Big Sean was with Kanye. I was kind of the only

nigga I felt like I wasn't didn't have that with nobody. Yeah, I'm like, damn the fact you talked about you said, the only street niggas and uh Rock on the cover. Yeah, but even Jay Rock had you know, TD behind. You know what I'm saying, I hadn't you know, I hadn't developed E. S G N yet and I wasn't on on that level yet, and I was just like, man, damn, like what the funk? You know, I couldn't really believe

I was there. You know what I'm saying. That Nick a big shan He stood up on the ladder and ship and had to lean on my shoulder for the picture. That's why he like that was funny as here. But you know, like, you know, these were all guys that I respected, you know what I'm saying. You know, I looked at their music and I was like, Okay, damn, like you know they these niggers deserve to be here.

You know, I'm ship, I'm here on the wing and a prag idam and you know what I'm saying, But I'm gonna make the most out of it me being here. Even Kendrick Lamar was there and he wasn't gonna be on the one to the next year, and he was just like, yeah, I'm about to be he knew he was gonna be on that ship and there He's like, yeah, I'm about to be on that ship and next year,

so you know what I'm saying. But you know it was like I said, man, that that let me know, you know, like I was, you know, on the level of the elite, you know when I was around all of those guys, and I just had to just show improve and you know, ship, and I'm still here that I'm ship. That was two thousand ten and and I'm I'm still I'm on the rap Radar podcast right now. Like so ship Freddy Kane and did this thing? You know, ship, I ain't got any complaining about. So when did the

E s g N brand evolved into what it is now? Like? Um really, man, like I said, I just needed something to really like uh really you know run behind you know the E s g N thing, it's just just embody air thing. I am just you know, street sports, Gangster, all that ship, you know, the funny It's just I just you know, figure, I just culminated all of that

ended that one thing. And uh uh you know I was I was watching ESPN one day and I was like, all right, I'm about can't that logo real quick and put it on a T shirt and then uh ship um. And I was with uh young Jeez at the at a video shoot for the song he had called Flex and he was doing really best, right, that's that she was and I, Uh, everybody else had the C T shirts on. I came through with E S g N shirts and he was like, what the fund is that

I'm saying? I got a picture that think snow. I was like, hold on, man, what the fund is this he has? What is that? Nigger? I'm like, hey, this is my ship. So you know that, you know, I was just he nigga was looking at me like what the fund is wrong with you? Nigga? And then you know from now you know, I think um uh. It was a video that Jez got called when when When? Yeah, that video that's when you first seen the es g N shirt and that video right there, that's when niggas

was like, oh damn, what the fund is that? Then I just ship kept running with so they was like they're going to put that shirt this video. People ain't come down to you. And when they do that, ship, I mean, I really get it. And we had a sports column on that. Yeah, we need to do that again. That's another that's enough. That's another thing you're stealing from to the sports column on the rap radar. Man, we

need to start back door that. Man, that was good. Hey, it's gonna be even greater now you wrote that all yourself because he took it real serious. I'm a good writer, man, serious, I'm a good writer. Man for real, dog, y'all gonna see dog, maybe we can't shout by. He had the shirt, so yeah, we got the goodies, the beanies, I got

all that for y'all. But I look at est and it's like, you know, obviously it's been talked about it nausea and that the jes thing didn't work out, and I feel like, once that didn't work out, I feel like that's what that's to me, the rebirth of kind of the ESPN. Yeah idea, someone's like, you gave up on that validation. I'm just gonna do it my way with And that's just that's not not looking back about. What I'm not gonna get is different, definitely different, man.

And you know that that that whole situation taught me a lot, man. I you know, um, you know, I had my you know, my words, you know, for Young Jeez or whatnot at that time, you know, when it didn't work out. But you know, man, ha handslight, you know what I mean. And that's that's probably one of them, one of the mistakes that I made in my career. I wish that I would have walked away from that

situation quietly and respectfully, you know what I mean. So that's that's one of that's probably one of the only things that I regretted my career. I don't give a funk about this and on niggas, not at all, but you know what I mean, This was a guy that I, um, you know, looked up to, still look up, still look up to to this day, still respect you know what I'm saying. Like you know, um, if it wasn't for my time over there with Jeez, I probably wouldn't know

how to move like a boss. You know. When I got you know, my opportunity to touch money too, I probably wouldn't have knew what to do with it or you know, how you're supposed to act. And you know, I learned a lot of etiquette from Young Jeez. You know what I'm saying. And you know, if I'll sit here and say I didn't, and I'll be lying, you know what I mean. So you know, you know whatever, you know, it is what it is, you know what

I'm saying. It's like, you know, when you get into it one of your family members, you know, at the end of the day, they still your family, you know what I mean. So at the end of the day, I still learned a whole lot from him. And you know, I'm still you know, using those twols to this day, man, And you know I ain't got number of you know, love and respect for at this point, but you still like be wanting to work with him if yeah, definitely, man, you guys good terms now right. I mean I wouldn't

say we're on good terms. We haven't personally spoke, you know what I'm saying, But uh, you know, you know, you know, like I said, I extended my hand to him and salute him, and it's all good, you know, ship He don't you know, he don't gotta you know, say nothing to me at all. Just the fact that you know, did he know that I'm you know that you know that I you know, truly you know and genuinely apologize for that for those times and you know, in Seorwan respect. That's all that mattered to me. At

the end of the day. I'm a man, you know, so I gotta admit to you know, my wrongs and things of that nature. How did you overcome that though? Like why did you not let that be a thing that develts your career? Like when that didn't work out? Like how did you go forward? And um, I think that um you know, being in a more positive space. Uh, it's proved to be more um productive for me, you know, because you know I could sit and thrive off. You know,

the negativity. The negativity make people not want to funk with you, to make people you know black ball, you make people not want to do records with you. You You know what I'm saying is that, you know, I don't want to be looked at as that guy that you know as soon as you rub them the wrong way, he gonna go this. And you were saying, because I'm not, I'm not that guy, you know what I'm saying, Like, like I said at that time, you know, UM, I can't blame it on nobody around me or saying people

was in my ear. That's genuinely how I felt. I just let it come out. You know what I'm saying. And I shouldn't have. I shouldn't have did I vent it on a record? You know what I mean? Because you know I didn't control my emotions, you know what I'm saying. And I and you know, like I said, I gotta chalk that up as a loss as a man and not controlling my emotions at that point, because that's ship that bitches, do you know what I mean?

Bitches don't you know, can't control their emotions and they and they wild out and I you know, I don't want to be looked at. There's no bitch because I've seen it because it was niggas that I deal with, you know what I'm saying that you know, felt like I you know what I mean, They didn't get their you know, fair chance with me rapping and all of

that bullshit like that. But you know what I mean, like when with this rap game, man, you can't put on all your homies and you can't you can't satisfy everybody dog because it gets crazy, you know what I'm saying. And you know, um, you know, and I didn't I didn't consider the fact that you know, Snow was going through a lot at that time, you know, with his with his label situation and things of that nature. So

you know, I didn't really take that into consideration. I was just looking like, nigga, is me me, me, me me, what the fun? You know I was really I can compare that ship to the way this nigga Sam Bradford acting right now. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm like, hold on, nig I want to hold out. I don't want to trade. You know, I wanted to be about and you know that was the wrong at that time. It was the wrong mentality to half you know what

I mean. But you know I took that negative energy and put all of that in the pin YadA man and really just you know, it just open all these new doors. So I turned it into a positive you know what I'm saying. But like I said, at the end of the day, you know what I mean, I got, you know, nothing but respect for cheesy or whatever you got going on. So have you like reworked the thugging philosophy more or less? Um, it's still the same. You

got a new thing about what the staying dangerous? Like, yeah, yeah, when that safe stay dangerous out here be a danger to these to these dangers, my Fucker's like, if you're a danger to them and ship, they can't be a danger to you. So what's still approach for the new album? Lifestyles of the Insane that's still the working title. It might be I might switch it up. You didn't know shadow that was gonna be the time you talked about

lifestyles and insane. You'll tea something and do something different, right, I really I will do something different. I'm still donna put that out. I love that title. I'm gonna use that on something that might be a movie, you know what I mean. You know, I've been writing movie scripts to have been in the films, being into the film thing. I gotta my my agent. Shout out to my agents. I see them. They've been seeing me on a lot of auditions and things of that nature. So I'm definitely

about to get into the acting and film. And you know, I look at the film thing. It's just like, um, you know the music game, you know what I tell Yeah, nobody, you know, nobody wants to give you opportunity to create your own content. So I just started, you know, writing scripts, you know what I mean with you know this little script writing things and things of that nature. I got a good acting coach that I deal with it from time to time, and you know, I'm really taking it serious.

So I want to give. Yeah, So what's your biggest like in your young learning to be an actor? Like, what do you think right now is your biggest strength and what is the thing you need to work on the most? Um. I definitely need to. I probably need to work on just ship, remembering all the motherfucking lines I've been like, hold on, cut nig and what were supposed to do next? But now, but now I'm good at it, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah, my friend is there. I do a lot of I'm I'm

good off the cuff, you know what I mean. I'm all I'm automatically funny already. So they love that ship, so you know, I'm I'm I'm in the works of developing a whole lot of you know, funny like you know, No, I don't want to be one of them niggas that he's a rapping nigger. He's gonna make a you know, straight gangster movies all the time. I gonna make some of them, But I want to make some funny ship you know, I want to approach the game like ice Cube.

Did you know he's definitely one of the forefathers of this game and a rap and definitely the transition from the rap to the film. So you know, he's somebody that are closely studying closely, but as a storyteller, because I think, you know, one of your stronger suits on the MIC is the ability to tell a story. So I think of like shame and deeper, Like where did those come from? Oh? Man, I'm really man, all my mike, all my experiences on the MIC, man, they just come

from real life experiences, you know what I mean. Deeper, I had a homie going through that, you know, with his baby mom, you know what I mean. So it was just like, you know, it was simple for me to write a song about it because you know, I was sitting that first hand when he was dealing with it, you know what I mean, Like, you know, going to jail and I b m to see his child, thinking as child's buy another guy, and things of that nature,

you know what I mean. So the video was really good. Pignan, Yeah, yeah, I had to knock that nig out, but yeah, it was you know, you know It's every story that I you know, write or rap about, it is definitely either my story or somebody real close to me, you know what I mean. I gotta get their permission first. So even like shame, that's real life ship. Yeah, all this

ship is real life. You know what I did a song, man, Well, I rapped about some ship um that I shouldn't really wrapped about, and it kind of picked somebody off, you know what I mean, who was really like a part of the story. And they heard the song and it was like it was it was somebody's sister, you know what I'm saying that I was talking about, and it was real, you know, it was a song I got called Queen. You know, that was a It was a

real deep story, you know what I mean. And I was talking to you know, it was so vivid that the nigga hit me. He was like a nigga, I know what you're talking about, you know what I'm saying. And you know, I don't think you know, that's why I didn't really push the gas on the record like that. I was, you know, I shot a video forward and everything, and the nigga was like a man like, you know, kind of you know, pump your brakes on that. I know it's out there, it's on the internet, but you know,

so I understand. You know, sometimes you get a little too vivid, you know what I mean. But you know that is what it is. It's a life we live. Man. At one joint that you have, I think this is my I tell you this all the time, how we do wrapped over? Yeah, that joint is like my favorite. I think it's I don't want to say it's better, but I like it. It's better than me storytelling on that. It's just crazy, Like you talk about the check that you would tell Yeah, brought it to New York. Yeah, man,

that bit fissed me off. Man, me up, I brought out here, man, that's all. Stop taking bitches on trips, man. Don't appreciate it. Man, hey man, bit just don't be appreciating. They'll be like, well, what you've done with that? You've done for me lately? Damn bit you all them turning Janet Jackson on the the real quick? What then what about you lately? I just took you to Japan, bitch. You ain't never in fucking wrong with you? Man, So like that? So are you? And I read mom cool, Yeah, good,

that's my baby. We do you know, I'm just talking about the bitches. I can talk to talk about the business road talking about the bitches. Man, we love a bit you know I love. But what you don't love his critics? Man, you can wait to somebody fun critics Just smile because it's not qualified to do your job.

I don't like all the critics, like y'all y'all because me and be that we had conversations all the time about rap and he'd be like, you know, we don't say nor name, but I'd be like, man, this nigga sucks. You know what I'm saying. He'd be like, yeah, that sucks. I'd be like, hell, yeah, nigga, that nigga Like you heard that new ship that came out. That ship whack ain't it? You know what I'm saying. So even though you take criticism too because something it's very rare. If

I say, Gibbs, I ain't like that record. Yeah, but most of the time when you do, I'd be like, Okay, funk, I gotta go back to the drum. But that's somebody's opinion that I'll respect, you know what I mean. So I'm like, yeah, I respect it, you know, ship and the nigga talking to tell her how it is when he reviews something that you know it is what it is, you know what I'm saying. So you know, respect beat our opinion. That's why I said, That's why we got

that relationship. So I don't he didn't never interviewed you before. I was like, okay, yeah, because you interviewed me every day. Nig we're talking you like me to gives. I'm good. I love you. You're the coolest light skinned nigga. This Prince Dad, You're the real Prince now Prince Dad. Now you're the top light skin digging the game, giving ourselves new titles. But you have good relationships with the critics

and things like that. Yeah, definitely. I don't know if I didn't not be out of here, you know what I'm saying. So I definitely got a good relationship with it. Getting too much beef now with the rappers on even in the tweets anymore. He kind of slowed down a little bit. Yeah, man, I really slowed down. I'll be because you would be like going for nigga's heads and social media, like I like this nigga what yall remembers laughing, because he'd be like, man, this nigga crazy. He'd like,

damn man, you dissed that nigga, night man problem. It's always an issue with you. Nigga. You always talking ship up about people, man like niggas. I remember, like ship like what, I can't even talk about that. But it was a rapper nigger. You know, I was putting pictures of the nigg on my Instagram, joking about him and ship like that, because the nigga was doing feminine type ship. But you know, niggas be getting mad at ship like that. But I was really just joking, you know what I'm saying.

But you know you can't really joke with that body. Joked that you created you on me for the respect my name the bird Man thing, right that ship nigga asked pulling. I was in the motherfucker I did that. N You niggas don't be taking my guy fearing me the bird Man ship. I made that ship I made that I was asked pulling. I was like, how I put this tag ship on him? He in the back like nigga, what the fund is you doing? And he's like, man,

I don't know you got screenshot. I was like, hold on, I'm explaining to people that don't know, like you got so nigga. So what I did was as soon as bird Man did that ship, I was like, oh, some respect on my put some respect. So I was like, nigga, okay, I'm thinking, okay bird Man, uh I Google Man pouring catch up some ship and I was like, nah, funk that catch up? This in New Orleans, this zesty, this is hot. I was like, nigga, get a nigga poring hot so and who wasn't guy Fiar. I was like, nigga.

So then I learned how to do the tax on Instagram. I just put tab a nigga, but I typed in respect r e spe that was somebody named and I typed in my name and I put in a boat of food and put the respect by the hot screenshot it and bam, y'all niggas was still in my idea social media king. He ain't got here, nigger, I create a meme on your motherfucker's dude. The game shot a

bird Man speaking a boy. I said, I talked. I talked to the right after I said, bird Man was about to come to the clap some ship like man, you better duck out man real right, But speaking of had As yellowle boy, hey oh he won't hate that. That might be over some people's that's over the head and be ship there. I just say the music expect might be pretty give bird. I gotta love for your burdmans. Actress,

that ain't you know what? That's what I said. What I call Italy, I said, hey, actress, can't but the trip. But he said something Twitter on the people got made something about Trump and they misconstruted or something. Yeah. Man, see this is the bullshit. I said that, Okay. I said that niggas need to not um make a you know, put too much energy into a anti Donald Trump campaign. You know what I'm saying because I think that's what the motherfucking white voters want. I feel like we aren't

doing nothing but bringing him more attention. Like let's let's focus more on the issues on us, right, you know what I mean, instead of going into a whole fun Donald Trump campaign, Like my nigga, Okay, we got a common enemy. We know, that's the only time niggas unite. And when we got a motherfucking common enemy. Let's unite without that, Let's do something together and really push ourselves for because the nigga might suck around and get elected

no matter. We only make up so much of the the population, my nigga, so he might suck around and get elected, and then what you know what I'm saying, all that anti ship ain't gonna do nothing because he's gonna be controlling your ass. So I'm not saying work with the nigga or you know what I mean, or vote for him. I'm not saying that. I'm not voting for the motherfucker at all. What I'm saying is that we need we got issues internally that we need to

handle before we go anti on another nigga. You know, because you said that, they say, so you pro Trump nigga. I'm like, man, all y'all niggas, I'm like, hey, nigga, I'll started to put my address on Twitter. I wish you nigga player. I'll shoot all you bitches. Yeah. Some people were like, oh, you're a cool, Uncle Tim man fucker's calling me a cooner, Uncle Tom I said. I was like, nigga, I kill your family, nigga, get the funk away from the man. But I was like, all right,

let me chill. This just Twitter. Lambow called. He's like, hey man, stop it, man quick talking to those guys on Twitter. I was like, Man, I can't say ship now. Man, I'm just talking about opinion. What the fuck? You know what I'm saying. Even lastly, go just vote, motherfucker. Man, you'll want to change this ship. Go for I'm tired of the ship. Let's talk about that. It was funny before you go. Remember this funny uh Instagram video you did.

It was like black lives batter, black lives bad, black lives battle a couple of fucking your bitch exact, black lives matter. When you walk in and nigga your bit, you're gonna kill that digg You're gonna say black lives matter, no life matter, you gonna kill him. That a a bit matter. You shoot the right. And I was like, Yo, yeah, but niggas getting mad when you do ship like that.

I'm like, Nigga, that's just the real though. Y'all talking about all this black lives matter ship, but y'all we're still killing each other, so obviously it don't matter, motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. So it is what it is. Man. All lives matter. Nigga, the Puerto Rican they're on the corner. Life matter. The white nigga down there, his life matter too. I don't want to kill either one of the motherfucker,

you know what I'm saying. So you don't like, you don't like the trends with that, I ain't with that, trim man. I'm with some pro black ship. Man. If it's going van black people. But if it's just hashtags, nigga, rck the funk out of here, y'all. Yall niggas is just nigga's hashtag And you'all ain't doing ship. You know what I'm saying. Nigga, I'm out here. You know ship. I'm bad. Motherfucking school supplies for kids and Gary doing

motherfucking charitable ship for the athletic programs. Like niggas don't do ship. Niggas just all a bunch of talk. All y'all niggas just on Twitter tweeting, ain't doing ship. So all you niggas just tweeting the hashtag this nigga fuck that you're doing a number hashtag and get your ass in the field and really do something. Bit well, you got a good white man. You're let's talk about this Lambo guy. Man. Yeah, man, you guys are the true partners.

Mambo gave me a newfound respect for white people. Man, Like I went to all black high school, all black, like Gary is ninety five percent black, So I didn't even grow up really grow up around on white people. Only white people I knew was the police, you know what I'm saying. So it was just like, wow, you know what I mean. But you know me and Lambo pretty much discovered me. He was an intern at inter Scope and uh oh five oh six and whatnot, and

he's just having to stumble across my music somewhere. I didn't even know that my music is on the fucking ending, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, damn okay. So he called me. He was like, man, I think my boss want to fly you to New York, you know what I mean? And can you a record deal?

I said, yeah, right, nig If that's the case, the book book two tickets right now, motherfucking I hung up on them, and then the motherucker called me back like two days later, like hey, yeah, I got you flying out of old here in Chicago. Come and I was like, nigga, what And then I came out here. They put me in this jankie ass hotel right across street from Madison Square Guard and I forgot the name of that ship, but that ship was jankie. I was like, damn, man,

this is in New York. I was like, man, I want to stay in some better ship than this. So, you know, I ran up the bill on the room service and all that ship and then the Porterhouse steaks. Yeah, I was like, yeah, give me some steaks, give me all that ship and then um, I ran up the room service and then these nings was like, well, you know, ship, me and my nigga at the time, you know, we was out here and we was in there. My fucking so fucked up. Then they just they took me to

some jankie ass. It wasn't even a real studio. It was like a mike in the room. I'm like, damn, maybe you're supposed to be in the school. What the fund is this where the funk y'all got me going? So then but I went there and I recorded like six songs and like two nights and then I had my deal and you know what, I'm saying within the next couple of months, you know what I mean, it was a bullshit deal. It was only like thirty dollar dollars, but fuck it. I was out the hood and I

was in Cali. Y'all was like sucking and you know, um when they dropped me, you know, they kind of dropped Landbow too. He didn't get a job, you know, he was an intern. And then you know, it kind of left both of us stuck, you know what I mean. It was just like funk man like he like, man, I got this great rapper that I thought I found. But you know, don't nobody want to you know, sign him,

you know what I'm saying. Because he from Gary, He not you know, from Atlanta, New York or l A. He don't really you know, we don't know the story of that. We don't want to take a chance on that. We don't you know, he don't really had a look, you know what I mean. I don't know if he, you know, is as handsome as this guy whatever or you know, got the fifty cent body and you know that and ship like that, you know what I'm saying.

So it was a lot of things working against me at the time, like I said, and a shout out the fifty cent you know, because he wanted the guys at the time that I really really was looking up to man like I really started my rap career, you know, um in that G unit area. That's when we're not started rapping. Yeah, around that time, you know what I'm saying. But when fifty came out, fifty was the motivation really to start rapping. But you said the book Goes Around

the Nods record was also a motivation. Yeah, that too, you know. I mean, of course I listened. I was a big fan of rap, you know what I'm saying. But like fifties whole waves was like, damn nigga, like ship, that ship is crazy. That that ship made me want to go into the business of rapping. And I was like, all right, cool, I think I could do. And then like when I started rapping nigga and six seven months later, I got a deal at the same label that nigga

was signed to. I thought they I thought I was the ship. I'm like, I'm out of here in my nigga, you know what I'm saying. But the rap you ain't don't work like that, you know what I mean, but I'm glad that I went through that and I took all those lumps, man, because it made me a better businessman, you know what I mean, a better person, you know. You know, it made me smarter, you know what I mean.

And me and Lambo, like I said, we couldn't get nobody to give us no nothing, you know what I mean, So we just took it upon ourselves to really, you know, invest in ourselves and you know, started the y s GN thing and really put me on the road and you know, put me in the places that I needed to be. And you know, he's really been like a man, like a one man wrecking crew man. And I got you know, Lambo, he's gonna's gonna be running some big

company one day. Somebody can get into the job, because then niggas a he's a beast man, He's he's really a beast. He dedicated a couple of bars something one of the songs. All my bars dedicated to that. I wouldn't have a rap career specific set though, definitely definitely, man, I definitely dedicated some bars to Lambo on I said it. I wouldn't if it one of you. I wouldn't have a rap career or nothing, you know what I mean. And that's the truth. Because I still me in Gary, Indiana.

I don't know, I'll probably be a fat nigga working at a gut damn playing or some ship like that, you know what I'm saying. But Lambo, you know, he more than just my my manager, man. He one of my best friends. Man. He you know, he teach me a lot of things about life, you know what I mean, things that you know a lot of guys weren't from ain't open to you know what I mean. Ship, I mean, the nigga made me do an album with Madly, I mean, took me to the next level. Man. So he's a genius. Man.

He's definitely a music industry genius. Man. He's He's one of those guys that's on point. He knows what's cool, he knows you know, he's all about quality over quantity at all times, you know what I mean. Just to be around him, man, like his his mind. If you sit I mean, you might be sitting with this nigger and he might start doling with some crayons or something

like that. You're a weird guy like that. But he, you know, he reminds me of like I don't know, man Landbos like Rick Rubin or something like that, or like a young Rick Rubin or something. You know what I'm saying. But you know, I got so much love for him, you know, I definitely, But that's my homie. That's what's up. That's what it seems like, as if

you have embrace or love being independent artis. We had Nowhere here a couple of weeks ago, and he said he hated being an independent artist because it's so much legwork, Like you like that or I love the legwork. I mean that d it was you know my mom man carrying that mail thirty forty years. You know what I'm saying that that that work ethic. You know, that's been instilled in me from the longest, you know. I mean, I come from a blue collar family, and it was

just that, you know, like I was. I was telling somebody the other day, like, um, when I shot to Freddy Gordy video me and Jonah, I ain't even had nobody with me, you know, to go to the Bay that week, you know what I mean. So I had to be the artist. I had to be his motherfucking grip crew all that ship. I had to help this nigga carry the camera all of that, and I ain't called nobody to do it for me and none of that Ship, because I'm like, you know what, man, this

is my motherfucking business. I'm gonna I'm gonna do it and make sure I do it right. You know what I'm saying, Fucking I don't even nobody that I'm just gonna do what I gotta do because you know, a lot of people was unavailable at the time, and it was just I had to do what I had to do with you know, I had to nick out there, Callie you know, Ship, he had to flatback. So it

was just like, man, let's just make it happen. And you know, if I'm not gonna put my nuts on the line from my business, who will you know, Ship fun it. If I gotta do it myself, I'll do it. Ship. How long do you think it takes? Because a lot of artists, you know, are doing an independent route and it feels like they could just pop over that they want to be Like Freddie Gibbs, Like, what if I do you have for those people that? Man? I mean,

you know this Freddy Gibbship didn't happen overnight. This definitely took a lot of work, you know, a lot of ship. There was a lot of Hongry nights, man, a lot of you know, nice withold nigga was getting eating Wendy's and then I'll never eat Wendy's right now. Too much, too much motherfucker widdies and fast food and ship like that, you know what I mean. Like I think that you really just gotta have a drive, man, you know what I mean. Honestly, like you said, I never let a

nigga out work me. Man, I think my drive is the only reason I'm here because, like I said, I'm not the most famous rapper, you know what I'm saying. But I didn't get into this game for that, you know what I mean. I got into this game, you know, change my life, you know, to do doing something that I like. And you know I've achieved that, so any anything else on top of this is just extra, man, you know what I mean. I'm I'm loving it all

the you know the perk ship. I walked to my hotel room to day, I was like, damn this way, y'all put a niggatt it in the King dropping doping sweep man. I walked to that motherfucker like my son works. Works that my son works. I feeling like Nigga, the Royal Penis is clean. You know what I'm saying. You said you wanted to be like Iced Tea. Man, you still do shit ied to you see that big booty beach that what the not much love and respect for

Iced Tea and Coco. Definitely, um I um, you know, I mean he definitely you know, uh is one of the guys that I you know, came up that my uncle's was bumping them tapes, you know, and I was a little kids, so you know I was hearing Colors Color all that ship, you know, six in the morning, all that ship. So you know that he definitely want the four Fathers of Gangster rap, you know what I mean. So for me not to mention Iced Tea when it come to gangst wrap, I think it would be a crime.

And he's one of the guys that transitioned his career to the film, you know what with New Jack City and and all the things the movies that I want to be. I still want to be like Iced Tea. You know, I look up to him definitely. Remember while back you told me that you wanted to be a Black studies teacher. You still want to do that? Hell yeah, maybe wanta turn like fifty five or something like that. I'm gonna teach some little niggas in the in the

city and teach them something to doyn know. Yeah, I wouldn't mind that, you know what I mean, because you know I've been you know, I definitely want to go back and get some time to you know, come some kind of degree or something like that. That's something that I'm gonna get into, you know, when I slowed the touring down, and you know, because I'm in the book, I'm into a lot of different it, you know, things that people wouldnt think that I'm into. I'm in a

lot of you know, the auto by autobiographical books. I'm just read this Bobby Seal book you got in your back. Yeah here we new. Yeah, I'm I'm really I'm really into that, you know, civil rights era things. I read a lot of books on that. Um Um. One of my favorite books, George L. Jackson, Solid Dad Brother. I love that book. I'm gonna read it again. You know, I love it so much because you know, it's just you know, just giving me a different perspective on things today.

And and it's it's crazy because it's like, it seems like a lot of those things it was like predicting the future, you know what I mean. It's like, you know, reading those books and seeing how things are unfolding in the world. Now that's crazy, man. So you know, I think that a lot of kids need to, you know, revert back to a lot of that you know, civil rights, you know, literature and really check it out. You know, come a long way from putting a thirty eight in

your lock of friends. Definitely, I still got a thirty Why you brought really brought that to school that time? Hell yeah, bro us the school that day, me and then we bring a thirty eighth to school. Thirty ship. That wasn't ship. It was niggas And it was niggas bringing carbine pistols and ship to our school. And it was niggas in the lockerly some ship. Man, Hey, that ship was worse than that ship in that movie. And Competitiarya and Yana man coming Gary, all niggles gonna see you. Man,

There's no thanks. But in the meantime for the music fans like you, mentioned the Noswood goes around. You said one of these you Like That records because you said, I gotta keep working soccer wrap on this level. So you're still pushing yourself as m seeing as an artist. Yeah, that's as you think you are as a rapper. Like you said, you top five, Yeah, I'm top five current, still top five all time. I think current are the

guys that's wrapping. You know. I think I'm probably top five, But um, what do you think you can still improve on? In terms of that? When I can improve on? I mean lyrically, I could. I could keep getting better, now, come on, yes I can. I guess everyone can improve, but you're coming Yeah, I can keep getting better. I'm gonna go with Hadence. Is it word play? He word play?

You know what I mean? The more I read and the more I live life is I feel like, yeah, the more things I got to say, you know what I'm saying, and you know, more things I got to talk about, you know what I mean? Like I said, I'm reading books every day, you know what I mean. So the more I learned about different life experiences, the more things that I could dive into subject matter. Why So I think that's definitely gonna make me a better rapper. And why did you do that? The currency? Though? Man,

I got to do what the currency? Currency? That song Scottie Pippen. Man, I just I just played the part. I just did what he asked me to do. Just wrapped on that ship. Currency. You know what. That's another guy that I umpend. Yeah, that's exactly. That's another guy that I looked up to, you know what I mean, looking at currency and you know how he how he flexed the game because he just do what he want to do. You know, he's not concerned with you don't

care if y'all played on radio. He's like, I'm got yeah right, yeah, you're like you know, He's like, I'm gonna get high and make it. And this is what it is. This is what it is, you know what I'm saying. So I respect him for that his you know, I don't give a fun mentality, you know what I mean. I definitely you know, it definitely rubbed off on me. Man. So you know, shout out the currency. Man. I mean, great guy, but god, damn that record. He just as

this job. That's what hey Like, I said, Man, I still look up the currency, man, Currency got a raife. I'm about to go get me one. You know what I'm saying, So shout out the currency. Man, I'm gon see you in Miami. I know you harding these rappers, any new rappers. Do you think that seems like they may have something? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like I like a lot of the new guys. I like uh um g Herbo, I like him. I like twenty one Savage, I like the Little yahdi Um, I like uh who else?

I like um. I don't know. All these niggas got little and a little all, A little nigga, a little rapper nigga, a little in your name, yeah, a little young I love all a little young niggas. I love all y'all, a little young niggers. I like Young Thug. That nigga's cold, you know, tell him together. Haven't discussed that, you think? Yeah? I think I think we have here Young Thug conversation. Man, you gotta get man listen, man, Young Thug is one of the best right now, like

with like songs like Caden, like his his flow. He got one of the best flows. I'm not saying that he you know, he's not you know, he's not saying probably what you want him to say as a as as a rapper, but like technically melody flowing melody, flowing melody. Young Thug is one of the best, y'all, sounding like a nigga talking to you. She got some pretty ash eyelashes, my nigga, she got some pretty cuticles, like nigga. It's a bit. It's a bit with an ugly face, with

a fat ass that I would trust. You know what I'm saying. So everything ain't like it ain't you know, the perfect MC. It's hard to find, man, you know what I'm saying. But Young Thug, I respect what he do. I like what you do. I think it's something different. I don't think it was you know nothing. I don't think nothing else sounds like what he got going on. So I fun funk what he got going I like asat fird. I like him his energy on the records. I like uh, I like a lot of I listened

to a lot of ship. You know what I mean, Because, like I said, man wrapping something something that's always changing. All is evolving, man, and if you don't get with it, you're just gonna fall behind. Man. You know what I mean, You're just gonna be one of them old niggas, Like I don't want to be that nigga, that that nigga. You know, as I get older, like I don't like

this ship. I always keep embracing the the young culture, you know what I mean, because I remember it was niggas that you know, wouldn't embrace me when I was you know what I'm saying. One, You know what I'm saying. And you know ship and that ship, you know, it just made me look at them like nigga and some of them nigga laying around him, you know what I'm saying. So I don't want I definitely don't want to be that nigga. You know, respect it, you know what I mean?

Like I got little cousins and you know, cats younger than me, and they ship. They put me up on game on the music. Ship. I like that one so cold like man, this soda cool like man, that soda need to stay up off the streets. That you can't take the heat. That I don't know that I'm the nigga waving came from the fucking porch. Now, I guess man, you can't be got, you can't be the old bitter nigga. Man, I know we got kids now, man, you gotta you

gotta embrace the ship. Like there's a lot of young rappers. I like, it's cold niggas on the West Coast too, you know what I'm saying. Uh, I mean, y's still niggas don't be getting nigga niggas don't be giving the West Coast stay credit either. Man. For real, the West Coast got ship that niggas don't. I feel like they don't get you know what I think. I don't know. I don't know, you know what I mean, Like ship, why doing this thing? And then she um ship young

cat a d he doing this? Ship? Yeah? Ship man, it's it's you a little bit in Chicago. Yeah yeah, yeah, I heard Chicago rappers. You know what I'm saying. Like, you know, I just think, you know, wrapping in different space now, man, I think that you can really, you know, you can get it cracking, you know what I mean, and on a different kind of level, you know what I mean? And you know, Ship, it's all about your

satisfaction or way you at in the game. If you cool with you know, your level of fame and your level of money, then it's fine, but there's so much money and this ship now for everybody. Man, I think it's it's like the wild wild West Now, I feel like everybody can, you know, kind of get there, you know what I mean? It's not I love it because I love seeing the whole major label system scramble around,

like what the fun? You know? I'm speaking of what you said something about that you said, like how labels are hired to paying you to be for the artists to be on your tours and stuff like that. My nigga, they see the Freddie Kane format, they're like, man, well we gotta do to do this and do that. And you know, ship is business, you know what I mean.

I totally understand that, you know what I mean, the same labels that wouldn't sign me, you know, she want to put their artists on my tours and that's you know, it's salute, you know what I mean. I hate to say, your mother tell your motherfucker's I told you so? But you know what I'm saying, it is what it is. It's all good though, because you know ship, y'all niggas can't you know what niggas be reluctant to give me

a deal because of my knowledge of the business. So they're like, oh no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, I don't want to sunk with this nigga. Or they were reluctant to give me a deal because of my knowledge of the business. They're like, I'm like, nigga, I'm not getting three sixty. I'm not doing none of this. I'm not doing none of that. That's what it is. You know what I mean. I want to be you know, I want to be a sole propriety. You know what I mean. I want to be a partner with y'all.

I want to be y'all fucking artists. You know what I'm saying, because you know, just being a regular artist, say on, you know, get you no one unless you unless you make like a platinum record, you know what I mean, you can't really, you know, get off the way you want to want how much you think it would take to get Freddy Gibbs on the major label system, Then no, no, that ain't never happened. Never, They won't never happened. They had the back to Brings truck up.

I make I make too much money for that, you know what I'm saying. A number out there just to throw a number. Oh man, I don't know it depending on what they want, you know what I mean, what they want a piece of, But it's definitely gonna have to be you know, in the upwards of five million. You know what I'm saying. I ain't gonna take that. No respect us on respect on that check. It was better pull a lot of respect on that check. This

ship already got it. And and if I ain't got it, my father and I got it niggas a funk y'all. I'll be around rich niggause I got it. I don't fall off. So is their resentment towards have made for No? No, no, what's he's made his peace? No? I mean like in terms of like having them the artists come on your tour. You know I'll be back. Come on, nigga, come on. I want to do that. I want thinks to see that. I want you you know what I mean, shop, I want you know you know I like doing business with

him now on this level. You know what I mean, because you know it gives them a newfound respect for me, you know what I mean? And you know, like I said, the only way that I would you know, um involve myself within that type of system is if I, you know, had a position or executive position, because you know, I think that uh the way that i've you know, did the whole you know, Freddie Giftson. He definitely warns me, um, you know the executive position somewhere. You can't just just

give me no record deal, my nigga. You gotta make me VP or some ship. You know what I'm saying, because I know me and that. But we know what the funk we're doing. So and we'll show you how to do it, you know what I'm saying. But you know it's gonna caution. You got to give a nigga a real salary, my nigga, you know what I'm saying, Like to take my time away from the ship that I make money on right now and help you do that.

You want to give me some money. So one of those things is that we'd that's your latest venture, yeah, man, ship, that's that's coming around to man. The cannabis industry is a billion, multi billion dollar industry. So should I gotta you know, put my stamp onto some kind of work. I was selling the ship illegally. Now I could do it legally, so but it's not out yet. It's out there. Yeah, Freddy Caine is in the stores in California. You know what I'm saying, Go on the Crossier shout the crossierge.

You're going their site and they tell you everywhere you can get it. We have to wax. We got the weed. You know what I'm saying. Don't call ask for no pounds, my niggas, because when I ain't selling no pounds, see y'all niggas, y'all gotta go to the store and get that ship. Niggas be you know, I got every drug dealing in America. I eary nigga head while I stopped there, like, niggle, we need ten pounds, And I'm like, hey, my nigga, go to California and get the nigga. You police, I

ain't get you to do with that. Man, we do it. The thing about the book. So the weed business is good. Everything's good. That's what's up. That's why. That's another reason I'm like, niggas make the label. Hey, come on, give me give me a big make me the president of that motherfucker. Then I'll go over there right or something.

Give me give me a job, because it's nigga because y'all, they ain't got no nobody but dinosaurs and their motherfucker's working in their buildings right now and they don't know what the funk doing a lot of them niggas, So many niggas getting laid off. You don't need that many niggas and that motherfucker to do that. You don't need it, man, You just you know what I'm saying. You need a couple of smart niggers to do what they gotta do. And you know what I'm saying, and it will workout,

you know what I mean. So you know, it's good to see the major label structure kind of folding and scrambling around, you know what I mean. So it's funny, you know, before we go mans next project, any hints you can give, man, you fans that was last November. You know what it needs to do, gangs to give a doubt Part two old. I don't know if I'm gonna do that. I don't really do Part twos. Niggas be doing Part two sucking shut up. You know theygla do a Part two then they suck up the legacy

of the Part one. I don't like that you're part three, I'm like, Nigga, I heard part two or one niggas coming out of there like yeah, it's touch us up. Part six, I'm like, I think I get the funk out of here, nig Only Niggers I could do that as Danny Glove and Mail gives lead the weapon work and then the only sequels I really determined data, but I didn't like them last couple of terminating most furious. That's the first that you know, Ship, it's too many

fucking fast and furious is man? What is it like? Man? How many? How fast? How furious? Can you be? Motherfucker? You know, like that of the motherfucker. So you know I'm cool on the part too. I'm just gonna come. I'm gonna come. I'm definitely gonna come with something. This ship up bucking list of collaboro's that year. Hell yeah, I want to do a song with Gunplay. I'm about to go to bav this week. That's why I said that.

But you know, um, you know, I definitely I mean, anybody that really want to work with me, man, and I'll respect. Uh. You know, I saw Rick Ross in California like a couple of years ago, and Ship were just talking about, you know, doing some stuff. He told me something. He's like, yeah, man, nikes like me and you everybody else take the steps to the top of success. Me and you took the escalator. I was like, all right,

my nigga, that was tights. I was like, I was like, my nigga, your word player having a most definitely Rick Cross, you know what I'm saying. And uh, you know, just you know, you know, there's a lot of guys in this game and I with you know, I want to work with, you know, guys like Drake. I want to work with the best guys. You know what I mean. You know, definitely show mom any any good player in any type of arena want to play with the best players,

you know what I mean? So yeah, definitely. And production wise, what do you think you're looking for? Sound wat ship man? Somebody could flood you with the man ship. Tell nigga, just Blaze, give me a link nigga what you're working on. We didn't tell that story about how helped you to beginning. J Blaze is one of the man most instrumental people in my career because you know, before I met jud Blaze, I was rapping wrong. I was like, you know, doing

too many tracks. I'm probably doing like folk tracks and like just rapping the same thing, and like, because that's the way I was taught to do it. Because that's that's why I've seen rappers and Gary doing that ship. But you know, that's why a lot of niggas wait anyway. But you know what I'm saying, that's where you're going. That's how I saw them niggas doing it. And then Nigga just was like, hey, man, look man, ship, nigga, you want niggas to take you serious, you gotta stop

doing that. I was like, what you mean? He's like, nigger, you sound cluttered on the motherfucking record. How the fund did he? He was like, why did these niggas even sign you? Nigga? You you don't sound like nothing. I was like, fuck, you know, I'm coming from just blazes. I'm like, damn, like nigga, you know, to go in the bathroom and crowd, you know. But yeah, yeah, So I was just like, man, alright, cool, you know what

I mean? And we was up in um that studio baseline you know, ship, and that was ship intimidating as fuck. You know what I'm saying because Gurus and the other room just blaze and like Rockefeller niggas was walking in there. I'm like, fuck, nigga ship, what the fund do I do? You know what I mean? So you know, I just calmed down and I start, you know, um wrapping away. He wanted me to wrap and I just kept doing that. Man. So I always, you know, get just blade credit for that,

you know what I mean. That night he pissed me off, But the next morning I woke up and I was like, man, that nigga really showed me something. And this ship sound way better than my old ship. So thank you, just Blazes. I always get you know, respect for that. That time I see you, I'm gonna bring this up to God. We brought you up to to rapperate our podcast. Man, finally glad to be here. Man, this ship gonna turn over there here, they gonna turn up. They're gonna turn

up in the Young Game. My son works. We will be in the show tonight. Thank you, Freddy, thank you all man. Man. Rapp Rate Up Podcast