Rap Radar Rewind: D.R.A.M.

got two million sold man sold Man. I looked at my Spotify broccoli it says there's too many anothers just like my looks like my bank account on to free. That's a lie, yeah, exactly, one to three A four to six oh one. That's a hundred and twenty three million, eight hundred forty two thousand and six hundred and one. Motherfucker's listening to you and little yaddi. Yeah, shout out to the man, uh and shout out to everybody that's listening to this record. It's a blessing little SoundCloud thing

you just drew out there. Man, Yo, it's just supposed to be SoundCloud like. And that ship what top ten Hot one hunted were number eight guy nil. The difference of year makes man, that's crazy. In the cool stories, you guys actually did that in Rick Ruben's creer right now. We met in Rick Ruben's creb. Yeah, Shank with a love So it's Rick Ruben's studio. You know I actually lived there, but it was it was mad little um. We ended up recording a couple of months later in

l A or whatever. But yeah, two separate times. I don't know talking about it's crazy how you keep making the big records. You supposed to be the chat that guy that's this yeah, big baby. I always fucking knew. I always knew, Like I mean, we still got ship like in the cutting, you know, but did you think this record was gonna take this one? It's one you don't expect. Yeah, right, just looked at as like a

uncollapsed right, that's my god. He goes on first, what were you thinking when you said beyond all that function? I like that just no telling, but like it's like literally like being beyond all that function from from anything. It's just like, damn, it's lit. You know what kind of you haven't been experiencing? I guess within the last maybe a year or so. Oh man, the hey, big heads you know the uh fucking uh you know, I'm really I'm in the binds. You know, let me hold something,

drone man. You know, the the nay says, you know, uh, you have to overcome that one hit wonder thing, right, But the always try to put that on the Mother's so crazy because I'm like, what ship all right? If you know, considerate done? You know, but is that a lot of pressure to kind of like overcome that or like oh no, Like the whole thing of the matter is like I knew what I had going We we as a unit, we as a team, we knew what

we had. You know, we knew we still have you know, uh in the vault, in the chambers, the connections we built because this thing is all about relationships. You know, it's in a very emotional game. You know, you can be you can be smelling. You're not smelling your ship, you know what I'm saying. For about a solid year and all those motherfucker's that you that you gave that little weak as stapp to or whatever, like remember that

week that broke hand, baby broke hand depth? You know, I man, Now you know like we we we definitely uh solidify a lot of a lot of you know, relationships and just you know, just stay with it. You know, took took everything on the chin and just keep it moving. When you say we who is exactly as in your team? You say, get the buzzers on the payroll, like who is actually as your squad? But I don't know, break them all down? Okay, you got tuned day, that's the

uh you would call him the quarterback, the manager. You know what I'm saying, got got the uh what I'm saying, got the guy damo. You know I'm saying, that's my road manager. You know you got uh daff, that's my DJ. Got uh what I'm saying, Oh, shout off for Tima. You know I'm saying my stylish. We just got a stylish right, stylish stylish? I got I got this on my own. What I'm saying like, yeah, I got this,

open shout. But how do you stay focused? Is it the team that just tells you to put away your phone or just man, if you're not focus yourself, how are you gonna? You know, can nobody else do it for you? But you a team can help drive it, you know, man? And I say we because everything that that happens is you know, everybody plays a piece of the puzzle. Uh st Stevo know what I'm saying, Um, you know saying you know social media guy Stevo with

the creative direction. What I'm saying, like, um, so it's by handling so much to that you can focus on the music and not be distracted by things. Is that they're now I mean yeah, I mean every you know, every artist has has their whole you know, has the whole team and stuff. You know that this that and the third or whatever you know being you know, if they want to make that a public thing or not.

You know, everyone has of course no, but I think it's good break down because I mean I think that you're this person and not look like the most likely star, you know what I mean, Like you had the odds against you coming from v A, you know what I'm saying. And I think that people want to get on and they want to build something. But it's not just all talk, right, Like you're really building a whole movement. You see the guy in the front, but there's always a lot behind it.

Oh yeah, most certainly you just wanted to kind of bring that to light more. Yeah, Like so literally, yo, like yo, your team. You know, it's very you know, vital to to the movement of your career, and you're only as strong as your weakest length. You have to you have to, uh, you know, evaluate the link. You know, as soon as there's a chink in the change, because a lot of people ain't build for the pace of

this game and that record. It's just like talk about your life's change, like like, okay, so I have for the next six months to three days. Yeah, just too. You don't even know what the fun they do, go to sleep or something like. Right, the perception of what

rappers go through is its lights, cameras in action. You know, man, I see that's what that's everybody that just wanted for the for the for the look of it, you know what I'm saying, but to want it for the life of it, to need it, to feel like that's all you were here for. If that's really what you feel, you do everything in your power to you know, keep the wheels turning in. So how did you do it?

I mean you showed that one video where you was like a little kid with the mic and like like you just was always I always wanted to step Yeah, like I feel as though, like I'm most I'm at my top, put my top form, my final former purest since when i got that mic in my hand, you know, and I'm out there letting it out to the crowd. You know, even back in the day when it was like ten people in the crowd no matter what, you know, but now there's a lot of people in the crowd

spread love to how's that experience been so far? Man, it's lit, yo. It's it's like a bunch of spot dates all jumbled in to each other, you know, like and we're just like, let's coin it something, you know, so we just catch the mad flights and ship like that. So it's it's been great though, Like you know, college shows, you know, one offs, the Red Bull Sounds selects, they're they're all very, very very dope in their own special way. And I saw you were recently embarrassed too, right, Oh

yeah in Europe over there? Yeah what was that? Like you said you were crying on the plane because you were just like, yo, like just thinking about like you know, legit, not knowing if I was ever even going to travel and see the world, like knowing like, man, I'm gonna always go at this music and want to get it off.

But like I felt like, you know, at certain points in my life, like man, it's just really gonna you know, and like to really just be sitting there and like, you know, lady just passed you to drink and ship you're just sipping a drink, Like, damn, I'm really out here, like really had to get my passport stamped, you know, like a pinch yourself moment, right right right, that's a dope, man. Yeah. Man, it started with this damn chord. Like remember he said

you were just sitting your bed right now song. Yeah, it was unlikely to like you think, you know, you don't know when the blessing is gonna come, like exactly talk about that process. That was just like a why do you think that? Why do you think that record was the one that was the radiated Like after all these years of hard work coming up in VA, why

do you think it was it was? It was the energy, It was a time, and it was the void that need to be filled in the game, you know, man, Like and we and it's unknowingly what I'm saying, but once we acknowledge that, we're like, damn, like, you know, there's a lot of darkness or whatever, and and it's it's it's very good. I love to listen to all of this ship. I mean, like, you know, but to to know that, you know, it was really like nothing

out there kind of like that. I think it was just the combination of, you know, the familiarity with the Mario simple and then the three and then the heavy as eight. Oh wait, see what I'm saying that, like, who is this fun big sounding as like people will be like, oh my god, he looks just like it sounds like little. So it really was just the fact. And then also the guys I was doing a record with Game nows what I'm saying, Like, Um, I mean, we really just went at it like, man, we're gonna

make this this, this, this this sound. We're gonna we're gonna, you know, run at this, you know, hundred miles an hour. Have fun with it. And you know, I wasn't really able to have fun with it and working with somebody that I believe that just as much as myself, you know, And uh, that's that's what I really think. It took like a whole year for the record to break. A right came out before about that journey again just throwing the record out of sound cloud, I guess. So yeah.

So look June one, two thousand fourteen, Gabe had his birthday party slash you know, showcase or whatever, and it was it was the event for the you know, for the for the culture out in the Way seven five seven, and I had, you know, I came across this, uh the beat, you mean, like we're just in a blue room, you know, getting getting liberated, blazed up, you know, and my dozen crib and I hear this thing. Come on, you know, I'm just like I like to chat to

everybody laugh. I was like, I'm gonna make that into something something. I'm thinking it's just gonna be like a little show opener, you know, like get the crowd going. So yeah, twenty one June, we performed that junk and uh, the crowd went so hand. They made you know, they made me performing again. At the end of the set, the crowd went so wild. You know, Me and get talk to each other next morning with a drunk voice like Nigga like, you know, we gotta make that junker song.

And we held our community hostage for the whole summer because we didn't release it online until September nine, two thousand fourteen. So every time you wanted to hear that song, you would have to come to our event. So we we really got it like that. So when the record dropped online, you know, seven five seven, already going crazy, all of the surrounding areas being you know, colleges and

all of that whatever whatever, everybody makes sense. And you locked your town down already before it went somewhere else, that makes sense. So when you approach no way, go ahead. Finished. So then within uh six days, because September fifteenth is when Jacob from Pigeons and Plane started raving about this project that he randomly heard because someone randomly reposted it on SoundCloud that he was following, and he went and searched and found, you know, the source of it or whatever.

He asked Gabe, He asked Sunny. You know Sunny and Gabe, they were already underneath the Pigeons Planes radar. And so when he when he found out about this, he just really raved about it. And I mean that really helped a lot of stuff. The first icon to to really stand behind the record. Like I don't know if y'all know, but this is facts. It's a que tip of a tribe called quest. This is back in October about it. Oh, I mean he went on Twitter, he ran it about it,

remember that. But then the young Lady nared Beyonce and eight nine months later Queen she she just she took all that ship out there. He was out here in New York when you found out, right, yeah, you know I was in the Lower East Side. You know, I think it was on Orchestry to soon but you definitely met studio though, right, what was that conversation? Like, bro,

like she she's amazing. Bro, yeah, man, you know at the end of the day, man, like she's looking amazing, and she's put you know, influential people in the game onto onto you know me or me onto them however you say or whatever, like uh, you know, Mike Will made it um diplo, you know what I'm saying, Like, just you know, that's that's a couple that asked to restart, Like she was raving about my ship behind the scenes, like you know, like shout out to Queen b But

you know you mentioned pictures in planes and obviously we want the website. And often with new artists they come we come into fire because we has a blog. They feel like we're the gatekeepers to break in the music, right, But do you feel like that was really the watershed moment? Was it the work previous that you have put in in Virginia that made a song blow up the way

it the way it did? Um, I think it's a combination what I'm saying and too to say, you know, fifty fifty sixty forty, I really can't tell, but but both was a major key in that, you know, because I mean that was like the first time in a long time a song was like getting raved about anywhere without being on any type of platform, you know, like legit. You had to go to the DJ's. DJ said, you know, just to hear a song like like some like the

fucking eighties or something, and you didn't plan. That was just that first natural reaction and we was like hold up, wait a minute. You know, we played it like chat Hugo is one of the first guys to hear to hear the record too. It was like before it was a song, you know, really probably living off the residuals.

You played it for him game so gay and sunny, like they're they're really close one or whatever, and you know, we work with each other, but like they really liked this stuff together, and you know it was like this little cookout event or whatever, and he was there and like they played in it was like and like you know, he pointed at me or whatever, like like yo, this is the guy. And then he was like like you like hey, you know, like it was just like damn,

we really might got to something hit. But when did in your mind, did it become like a real hit, like a like a hit across the board, and like, you know, did you start the show rape went up? It's like, well, yeah, like when I saw, like I mean the fact you know, when once you're getting paid to do gigs and ship like that, you know, it's like,

oh yeah, I mean something something real. But like when Snoop was smoking to that ship, Like when I saw that ship, I was like, oh, bro, it's it's out of here because he did it on Jimmy Kimmel too, you know what I'm saying, Like, and it was just like damn, like may this is this is a this is a this is a level up you know. Um so yeah, one of the one of the many indicators you know, Hollid did he love the Ruben November two

thousand fourteen dates not this ship. I worked on my life to to get you know, to this point, even even further than where I met right now. So you know, certain certain things like that are unforgettable. So Rick just like, okay, so you know, he's very He's into the innovative artists, you know. So he brought in guys like Chance gold Link,

you know, others, Generation of Right Real Noise. Yeah, and he asked them what they were listening to, and at the time, you know, both was like, you know drawn, you know, so we got into my full body of work, the whole mixtape, the one I picked Summer that the yeah, and like I mean, he was it was so dope because he only had at the time two tweets. I don't know if it's still set up like that, like

an intro tweet. Then the second tweet is like now listening to and um, you know, uh, he'll he'll change it every week or so whatever whatever. And he put drum get Money, which is like a flip of uh that I did like a junior Mafias Get Money merged in with the Erica Badu Get Money flipped. We just went in or whatever. It was right right, which makes it even more really shout out Rick, you know, so

I'm going crazy, like damn, what the funk? Literally the next day I get an email saying and the um headers like Rick Rubin and and and you know inside of the message, like we'd like to talk to you. What's your number? What's your managing? The next day he legit called me and I was like damn, like blew my mind. And I first met him on February set

it up just coming down to Cali. Like, you know, people hear about that place, So is it People say, like's if you're a musician, if you're inspired to do music, is heaven facts because the comfortableness, like it's like every single toy at your disposal, every single instrument, if you need it, they'll go get it. Like before I even got there, like yeah, right, facts, no facts, they were running, go get that ship. They were running and I hear a banjo right now. But like it's it's crazy that

the way they work. They're like they asked, like, what Mike you want. I was just thinking about all the mics that I've recorded over you know, just doing all this you know, studio sessions. I was like I want to manly, Mike the Gold Jump. I forgot all about that ship. They act like a couple of weeks before when I, you know, I had the session out there. I get out there and they legit that the gold ask Manly, I'm like, damn, like thank you. You know

what I'm saying about. When we think about Rick, like you always see the infamous thinging him kind of like he just pops up. Yeah that that's one thing, right, yeah yeah. And also just him like deep in thought hearing people play in his music like he need to like meditated. He's laying on the couch like what was some of it the moments when you play him music and like what's been his big feedback to you about your music that helped you? Man? He he focuses on

the good things, you know. So whenever he said like the worst he would probably get from him was like it's cool. And if you get it's cool, it's like he's not really all the way digging it. But like the ship that he loves, he loves it and he gives you the reason why. I like, like, I mean it's not no like generic as you know, like, oh I just I love it. You know, like you know

he can give you the specifics. It's like, you know this one part like legit like he watched my my Tim Westwood freestyle thing the most beautifulest word like um so I didn't even know, you know, he just sent me an email out of nowhere like yo, the part right here at one fifty nine, like yo, Like it's it's crazy, like like you know, let's let's work on that that. I'm like, just just me freestyle and what I'm saying like, ain't you know he's man shout out

to Rick. It's like like like look like like for real, like my Menstorio like he's a ship. That's pretty good mentor what happened when you approached the guys that Nintendo to clear the sample where they're not having it or what was there? They see? They don't they don't, they don't, they don't cooperate with that ship. Like if you if you look in the history of Nintendo versus Hip Hop, man,

they wipe. They wipe niggas clean fucking facts like who I know, I only think I can think of it's like the little flip right, Yeah, yeah, didn't clear any of that. Yeah. Wow, So you just shut it down completely. Yeah, like before before uh the ship hit the fan. You know, they just pick up the tracks, you know, pick up the pieces. And it's like I hated the fact that, you know, we had to go through that because you know,

just the old, original, original vibe and feel. You know, it's it's kind of altered, but like you know, it's still whatever whatever, but like we just we dodged the bullet. And you know, every time I perform, I still do the O G version asking me where it's. It's still on live mixtapes. You can't get it. Facts one look it up. Were you still? Were you still before took? We're still working at a Bank of America. No, I was working at best Buy on the geek squad, No way,

baby yo. Like so I had experience on the phone, like on the phone jobs, and they just needed someone with social skills because they're such fucking introverse, like in that little nook back there, like fucking nerds. They're like, like it's crazy and I love the job, loath loath. So at what point did you say fund this? I'm dedicated in my life to the music, Like I mean, it was always that, you know, and I would pick up a little bullshit jobs here and there. They were

always short lived. I was always fired at the end of the job because funk that ship, man, I mean for me though, fuck it right. You know it's funny because like listening to Goddamn you on the okay, then you said you like you have a chip on your shoulder,

Like where does that come from? I mean being I mean like that, And and then during that time, you know what I'm saying, like you know, everything is all about like um where everything is all about where I'm at and uh in life at that moment that was recorded back in like I believe like January, that's not like and like I'm legit like coming from you know, everybody's saying no, like man, I don't funk with this thing, you know, back home whatever whatever to like everybody now

all of a sudden like trying to be like on it. And now now now it's like a responsibility for you to Oh man, I called you that nigga. You ain't coming back man? Oh man? Is that what inspired that line? You said? Like family said songs wouldn't work at first and something like that. Facts, but now they treat you different. Facts well, I think it's interesting about your new joint.

It's about to be your next massive hit cash machine, so that you also just kind of touching on the fame now now you have success and how you're dealing with that, Like you got you have a line, like you don't got left if you don't got my new number. Rich Man told me it's part of the come up.

I talk about that adjustment of celebratory man. Like you know, people people would already think that I ain't got damn change my member, but like once once, once the whole, once once, the real real deal, you know, once once the magnum opus type of event drops. You know, I'm definitely changing that number, like immediately, but like you know, like get a drop of course screening that call now in fact, like say this don't pick up you know, it's it's it's it's legit. Like you almost think I

had a new number. The way I'd be swerving like ship or whatever. It's not even on purpose. Most of the time. I'm always on the go, always moving. I can't really you know, I mean, but why do you think like you wanted this, you wanted it so bad, right, like how how why do you think you are built for it, you know what I mean? Like some people want it so bad get it, can't deal with it. It seems like you're adjusting well to it, like you're built for it. Like what do you think it is

about you that makes you ready for everything? This game comes with? This game acknowledging the progress from every aspect, like the little progress, it's still progress, you know what I'm saying. When people can't get over the fact that, like now I'm not doing this like this or that like that guy. Yeah, man, Like no, You'll celebrate every one of your accolades, you know, and go about situations with positive ativity, even if you for real be like

man like damn man, I'm tired. Nah yo, nobody gives a funk about that. This is your job. So when everyone is in the room with smiling faces, you know, greet it back with one. Right. So what did you do when that check came in? Ship? I spent it. I spend it, spending spending true, like Casper Heat was inspired that somebody pulled up a phone and they showed you something Your not magical, Max? So why the wire

had hit? Secured the bag facts and a remarkable amount of money, I was gonna say how much what what did you see? Could you say, Oh, but you saw what was the mount? It was just I saw a six figure amount. I've never seen that much money was coming in at one time. So that's so. I mean, you talk about your mom too. You said your mom is straight now, like she's kind of been in your st of the whole time. Right, facts, you know what I'm saying, like drill sergeant, right, my mom? Yeah, my

mama's only child. You feel me like and I used to be like, Mom, let me get forty dollars so I can get some gas money go across the water. It's this a little showcase. Yeah, man, put about fifteen and the tank, get some weeds. Feel about three three dollars and everybody get one of those cheapass bottles, the backbreaker. You gotta go down to the bottom of the shelf to get that liquor, you know what I mean. So

what's that feeling now? That money that you could take care of your mom and things like that, It's it's a blessing. It's a gift and a curse to know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta learn, you know, what's what's what's what's too much, what's too often, what's not enough, what's seldom? M you know, when does it feel like you're being useful? And then when does it feel like you're being used? So who say that again? What does it feel like you're being useful? And then when does

it feel like you're being used? So who's the Tatiana check on the record? You mention, yo, like that's my extra matters, like facts like we went through the fire, you know, I mean like like back back before any of this ship. You feel me so, you know, I always you know, trying to make sure, like I think it's always keep that in mind, always keep that ship grounded, because when I had nothing, I mean nothing, not even I couldn't even go to the crib type ship, she

helped me down. So you guys are good. Yeah, I mean yeah, like I mean we're not like together like that, but you feel like you have an obligation to kind of like her my mama still coolest funk, like you know,

shout out to Aila, her her daughter. You know, I mean like when we was first fucking with each other, like she was like infant, you mean, like she grew up, She grew up knowing me, like, and it's funny because even though I'm really there, like you know, I got videos and ship you could just watch and just be like, that's you know, how you dealing with the success with the ladies that come with him? And he said, I used to get the hold his shoulders, not get the

hottest ass. Man, How you doing with these ladies out here? What's going on? Man? Ship? I mean, like, you know, you talked to me. I talked back. If you're looking at me twice, I might talk to you. If you talk back, then we conversating that we makes sense. That's always the beaus. So who was like on the record facts, it seems like that was like going through a tumtionalless time in your relationships? Was that with Tann? What was inspiring that? Oh? I mean everything is about somebody's girl.

Who I want? I'm not gonna say a man, you know, it was just some real, real, real real patty ship, you know what I'm saying, Like and it was just like really m hm inspired by true events. Yeah, everything every single thing my and my and my music from every Yeah you real thoughts. Yeah, you and Sissor make a good combination. That man, Yo, that should have been bigger, Man, that should have been Man. Look it's it's it's still good. It's still you know, yeah, it's it's it's dope. Its health.

Shout out Scissor. You know. The record was a uh originally presented on the Donnie Trumpet and the Social Experiments Surf project. What I'm saying, oh yeah, like you listen, that's the original junk I mean. And then you know, everybody was doing covers of her, everybody was working with

or whatever whatever. I linked with Scissor, and you know we were just um, you know, playing music for each other, just catching vibes and show like that we we we got cool and like, um, you know when we were working on a guddamn project, was like, man, we should do an extended version of Caretaker, and like it was like it should be kind of like a duet type style whatever whatever. So I hit a Scissor, so you know, you know, it's like we should be down with it.

And she was like it's like yeah, she was working with it whatever. Um, you know, I was just like, you know, could you sing it? You know, just the same as that way she was like you know, I you know, I do it, but like put my little flare on it. So you know, it was like still to the to the same, you know thing, but she should put a little she put a little sauce on it. You know. We have Punch of here a while back

and he was saying, you guys you had tied. You talked about relationships, you had ties with him and TV and talk about that, like how did you guys connect, bro, Like I mean it was originally through through uh me and says to me and but Nigel, um my guy, Nigel and Punch they're they're real tight, you know what I'm saying, Like, like you know, they always conversing and stuff like that. So once we all linked together, everything was already cool and ship you know, and punts cool

as hell, you know. I mean, Like what I'm saying when when when you speak listening because he's not going to ever say nothing that you're not needing it here the record country Lama yet No, but it's it's it's you know, it'll be it'll be one one happy day and the big baby drawings like yeah, man, once that does go down, what's the relationship with Jay? Like trying to it seems like the guys. That's that's the that's that's the big bro man, what's sell is heat? Man?

I don't even know I'd be I'd be asking like whatever, I get to talk to him wat here? All right? He still the guy though, Yeah we're worried. Like you said, he's a breath of fresh air. Did y'all link up in the studio working now? Yeah? You know we haven't even seen each other in the flesh shot. But every time he shows to the cho record in his shows to your record, that's lit and then walk off, it's like, wow, okay, And what about that guy Kanye West? Man, I know

you worked with him? Yeah, shout out, use you man, God damn um Rick Rubin set that up. He was just like, you know, hey man, you know you want

to come in the studio. Got Cayanne Like of course, Kim Man, I like what you used about two times in the stupid and ship real real real cool, Like he's he's he's authentic to to his ship too, like bro, like like you know why we're sitting around like he's he's looking at like these you know, fashion like the fashion ship whatever, talking with you know, like a little assisting, you know, like shading some fashion, you know, some real fashion as ship or whatever like and then the thing

with with him like he he like lists like he listened, like you know, like if you if you come in during ship, like he wants your inputy in the room. Yeah, like and it's like I funk with I really do funk with that ship. What I'm saying, not like like going back thinking about thinking about that the moment, like like for real, like you know, like just legit, just talking. It's not like you talking to somebody. It's like on

some brick wallship or whatever. So sometimes it's for fresh air that like to to be like damn, like this nigga is cool because I was gonna say sometimes people always be like wells and student so and so you know it does the record come out as it coming out and only the value is to that. But I guess sometimes the value could just be in those experiences, whether that record comes out or not or work what happens,

you know, I mean that that connection. You may draw something from that moment and apply to something you make down the world. Right facts fact, I never ever thought about it like that. It's pretty good because because like send the nature of artists to collaborate, but it doesn't mean that you're gonna end up coming up with a product that's good enough to merely go out to the world.

But it doesn't devalue what you're doing, you know. And I think working with other professionals like and someone like him, I think that obviously he's at he's at, like he said, he's at a higher level, but you feel good at the level you're at and you know you're growing, so you could draw from that experience, right right, right? Hell yeah, what about that Boot Collins guy? I know that son

your wish list? Yeah, definitely on my wish lists. You know, Man, I I met you know what I'm saying, actually got to work with the George Clinton. You know what I'm saying, Like that that's coming out huh man? Like yo, like yo, shout out to my team. Yo. Like I just be like I'd be I'd be saying ship that I'd be wanting to go down and like just be thinking. I'm just like, you know, ambitiously wanting, you know, like man,

I want to do this, you know what I mean? Like, and then it's like really soaking in, you know, ten days later, like oh, Hey, were you serious about this ship? Like, what's you mean? Oh? Yeah, because uh, you know we we we got ahold of his people's It's like, damn, I was in Tallahassee for two days working with George Clinton. Facts that's at his crib or something like that. He

had a studio compound, studio compound, the mothership. That's what I'm going to say that that ship, Yo, that ship was a time within itself too, right, It's just it's just And then the fact that all these legends are just embracing me. You know, I can't do nothing but be thankful because I legit like grew up like like studying this ship, like listening like vibing, you know what I mean, like like you know, like picking apart vibe, you know, riding down the road, listening to like different

types of listening to the same types of records. I remember you're saying like this. Nowadays, with streaming, it's easier because you could just gold you people's discography. It's it's one click away. But you were saying, I think I saw one end of you were saying that you went through people's discography, like Teddy Pendergrass, Curtis Mayfield and morm and getting find your favorites, like talk about what the influenced those guys were and like, man, like what what

maybe your particular favorites from them that you do inspiration from? Okay? Um, Teddy Pendergrass is uh the latest and greatest inspiration. Yeah, my latest and my greatest Yeah yeah, give me like more than just love t KOs my favorite, Uh Marvin Gay song is a Distant Lover And the version that

he did live is my favorite at them. I don't know, it's just it's just like the official live version, like you can't hear like feedback in the in the mic, like during like the first fifteen seconds, like, but the crowd was just man, let me killed that ship. Um, Curtis Mayfield, Curtis Mayfield, damn okay, give me your love, yeah, give me your love? Save yeah, like all right, all right, um, well, like Isaac Hayes, come on, that's everyone loves. By the

time I get the Phoenix's one, right, Okay. So so he's talking for like five minutes, right, and then it's something when the organ does the cord goes down, it's just like ship and then he goes right into the song. By the time, like like, oh my god, like it. It's so sad his woman was cheating. Student of the game man like that? What's that feeling like? And how do you like? People are like, well, how do I

make it here? How do I make a record? It's gonna make just just go off for what's in your gut? What's in your heart? Let the beat talk to you, you talk back to it, and then y'all create your own language, simple as that. How do you stay inspired? Though? How do you say? Like life life? You know? Like everything like life? Know what I'm saying, Like it can be the random as ship like you know, like I

can hear a slogan, I can're a phrase. I can hear the way something brushed up against a metal object that made a noise, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. Ever since I can remember, I was just always hearing melodies and always wanting to fun with ship. Do you still like some of your old material? Because I was looking back and like the sex of wholic anthem that was like took it back to fucking what oh naw I was? It still sounds good though, it

still like it could work today. Yo. I never even thought about that ship good, put it back out, man, I might, I might re record that whole make it

sound good at it, but even like better. But the money wrecking you had, I mean obvious because it was on Donnie Trumpet album like no no, no packaged it no no, yeah, we redid it form the god damn ep but um, all of those records from One Epic Summer that made its way, you know, into other projects one pig, you know, one epic fucking goddamn like, they were all recorded on that same hundred dollar mic that I recorded cho So it has a grittiness to it

that that no no machine can clean up. Because also the computer that was attached to that hundred dollar mike has so much dust and fucking spyware and malware bear and had this fan noise like all throughout my whole vocal through the whole one Epics summer. We was broke his head like like like me and Gabe sitting there with the splitter and some iPhone headphones. He mixed the project on some iPhone headphones. Facts. But if it's if

it's there, so that's gonna pull through. Talk about the Donny trump because that that that leads the connection to chance and and obviously got you got a big look on that Coloring Book album obviously right now. Oh yeah, so you know, um, you know chanting him, you know, the whole safe Money squad, like they've been fucking with me since like the end of you know, um around the time where um, you know, Rick was asking them you know what they was listening to and stuff like that.

So uh, you know, we just always built up you know, certain things like Nate Fox, one of the producers and um, you know, members of the Social Experiment, Like he was sending me beats and stuff like that, like what you got to this? What you got to that? And I would literally send him shipped back the same day because at that point I was still at the crib just watching the Internet go up, you know, so I still had you know, all of this time and just do whatever.

And I would try to capitalize, capitalized, capitalize. That's how Caretaker came about, he said, you know, and he just sent me that beat, um, you know, and it would just go on like that. So uh, you know, getting getting Donnie Trumpet to you know, play the horns over that. You know, it was nothing. We was already established as you know poison by that time. But how did the

Drawing Field Special record come together? Yeah, so I had a set when when I was in Shangrila, um like with February of this year, I had mad people just come in, you know, also had Donnie, Donnie Trump and and Nate come through or whatever. Um El Verna was there and Donnie was telling me that um he was

interested in, you know, working on children's music. And I said, it's funny because I always wanted to make kids music, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, just like some ship that anybody any age can get and receive it and it's not cheesy, it's just right. And I said, play me, play me you know some ship that you've got and he legit played that beat like and like soon I was like watch this you uh like and like everybody was like yeah, man, l she looked up

like that. We got got the singing together and ship like shout out squirrel. He just came out of nowhere with a handheld mike and ship. You know. Everything in schangulized recorded by the way, like you yeah, like it's a way to figure something out, you know, I mean, go and find out that idea, Like no, nothing goes undone. So we come out with with this, you know, this idea you know special whatever whatever it chance, here's it, you know of course because you know Nate and Donnie.

I mean, like they're all in this stuff. You know, everybody's gonna play each other music and stuff. And he heard that record and he was, you know, he called me mad times like yo, like let me put this ship on my project. You know what I'm saying, like away, get no. But I mean he's something like he played a song. You know, you know it's his his baby girl. He was like makes makes her smile and ship whatever like and you know, just over just you know, consulting

and just thinking about it. You know, we're just like you know, fucking I mean literally says like this, like Kalid has nas album that says drum since special, So he presents you in a big way with that. I mean, channel bro. I mean the whole saved money is family pison. It seems like a gift for melody. It's like it's undeniable.

Has it come from the church? Yeah yeah, hell yeah, you know well hell yeah, I mean literally, like I said, ever since I can remember and like all of the things that I like to take in musically, Like all of my favorite things are very big on melody. The sound of music is like, hands down has some of the greatest music ever put up. I'm not even gonna

get into all that. Oh yeah, I just love musicals, well, Julie Andrews music, music and like like I used to watching with my aunt Judy, you know what I'm saying at my grandma house and ship show boat Man like musical game now like so just coming up listening to that ship like you know, certain things just always rang off of my ear, and you know it's it's so crazy, like because the Keith Murray record the most beautiful list thing in the world. Uh, tupac, I get around. I'm saying, Um,

Biggie small as you what I'm saying, big Papa. You know what I'm saying. All are wrapped around the Osley Brothers in between the sheets. And it's that that that melody that you know, I mean that the chord progression like that's unmatched. You feel me like and and that song spawned some of my favorite songs. You know that that song is one of my favorite songs spawned some of my other favorite songs, you know, And as a child, I didn't like take that into now. It's just always

was just like you know it. Well, Yeah, when you had the line about when I was five or six years old, I told myself, Okay, you're special, Like what we what I knew? I couldn't sing and ship, you know, like I was singing and ship people grabbed the napkins. I can't really do this ship. Huh was the video when he had to think of singing that he getting my go and he starts clapping for himself three year like, I like this. So was it like in the church

quiet when you were leaving that effect on people? Yeah? Um, what was some of the first things you're saying that you felt like like it was really reaching the people? Remember some things you're saying, was it y'all? Um? No, not even gonna say a lot of you Like it's so funny because certain things I remember, like like yesterday,

some things that you know, I just remember. Yeah, I remember the feeling, you know, the first first performance you ever did that you that you've connected to the people. My Family Union, the Apolo knighte for Family Union. You know, I was seven it was. It was that one. It was the same where um I had the yellow T shirt on. I was had to snaggerlass teeth and ship whatever like I sang. Um. The reason why I sang by Kirk Franklin or whatever. My cousin Monica was doing

the Kirk Franklin talking part and I was glory. That's how Yeah. Everybody was like oh, and I was like yeah. But bet the student of the game, like the Box was also intremendual. My god, are we gonna talk about the box man? Talk about the Box? You remember the Box? Elliott? Yeah, I ran up my phone so bad, my grandma, my grandma let me goddamn. But the first record, how about this when I first caught onto the box? I caught

onto the box. And then the first record that that I see the video too is jay Z Hard Knock Life. How about I knew any Hard Knock Life musical game, but I didn't know jay Z. I went to school the next day, y'all know who jay Z is. Everybody looked like they just want to throw paper as that promoters want to throw No, but the boxes you were calling the audio videos people that don't know and stuff

like that. So the box. Yeah, like so Grandma won't play that ship Grandma and Grants definitely won't playing this ship the boxes. So, like I thought about it recently, I was like, Yo, the idea of that when we have YouTube, we can just put up your favorite video you have to wait back then yeah, yeah, and then and then you're watching the people dial up ship five three. I don't want tobody want to hear that goddamn ship. I want five three to a lot of beatload videos

and ship you know what? You know what the one that I did fun with them? Don't need to walk around an circles, walk around an cercles, walk around in circles, walk around and don't to walk around And he was walking around in circles. He was who the fund was that? Dude? Man, I'm about it, legit listen to that as we get The box definitely helped curate our childhoods man, that's for sure. Facts and now you dominate with streaming, man, why do

you think why do you streaming? Like go back to the streaming white the streaming numbers that just so over the charts, bro, Like okay, the combination of like you know, the chat guy and then little Yadi, like like Yadi is the king of the teams and all of the just underneath that you know, man as well as you know he's just it's his fan basis colossal and like

he's he's he's he this ship, you know what I mean. Like, well know, people get mad because he does make controversial statements about the older He wants to pick up his generation, and sometimes he says things that defends the other generations, like what do you do you think he's just stirring that up or you think that like, like what's he like as a person. If people may get taking statements and try to build up their whole viewpoint, my thing

is like funk anything. Man, you gotta listen to people's full catalog or a good chunk of it to get a real or real perspective or real opinion instead of just you know, like who's going about it? You know, you know media this and that, you know whatever, whatever, Because sometimes people say and do some of the worst things imaginable, but you still love their music, you know

what I mean. But that's funny. Also back to Yaddi, though I remember the song, there was a line about Columbine, right, and then you guys took it out and put it back in. Yo. The fans were enraged. They said, yo, yo, this line, you know, like what the and everybody was coming to funk at me, like coming at me like we're gonna turn this ship to consent. Like everybody added me though, like why you at me? Because my song? Right? No, but that's what I wear that ship. It is my song.

But that's a unique situation to sensor yourself and then go back and make put it back. You know, how did that come about? You? And people? Yeah, like okay, so tune down, coach got they're talking. You know, it's like, man, you know what about this line? It was both like man, we were both thinking about it. So hit up Gazi over the Empire and made it happen within three days. At where Columbine was right back in the business, they said, what the fuck? Like, Yo, put a video on. What

the fuck is it? Did you have? Apprehensive? Like apprangers are putting it out just like na, I mean, Nick's out here yelling Tyler band. You know what I mean? Like right, yeah, it's all right, and you're about expressions. You funk out of here, out of here, cut it out. Jeffrey Dahmer lines. You know what I mean, like out it. So we're getting hit records, we're getting EPs. Man, what's

I know? You're probably cooking up some type of LP bastardpiece that no one knows about, Like what's what's what's the future dates on the drums that look like give us a little preview, whatever you can tell us, expect, expect expected the full length. You know what I'm saying, before the end of this year. Okay, cool and uh. In the meantime, funk with me. Man, if you see that mer town, you know, come on down. We're gonna have a good time. We're gonna spread love. Do you

still want the Grammy? Fucking I'm gonna come through in the Grammy with a plain white tea, plain white tea, and some fucking slippers. Like I said on the on My Cutch of Though track on one Epic Summer, all my real fans, Ay're gonna be like, yeah, we get it. Yeah. But when you feel like plaques and trophies validate for yes, like that, they don't. They don't. You know, they don't define who you are. But validation and definition is two

completely different terms. They're kind of the same family, but like, nah, no, you need them ships. I'm a student to the game, like I want them ships that I saw. Motherfucker's get over. Don't take my joy away. Don't say, oh, streaming is the real Well, then y'all get the goddamn plaques, y'all, y'all get it with streaming, y'all do it, motherfucker. You know ship were going to that. Don't think you drown? Guy that make you? Brother? How do you say this

is the spirit man? How you say so positive and funny and enthusiastic. I think I handed from all the cool drunk uncles at everybody's family unions and cookouts and everything. No, no, no, boys, now, Like I mean, I just I don't want to be that guy that's unlikable, you know, like I always liked the guy that everybody like, you know what I mean, like that asshole in the corner. Yeah, like, yo, stop with that extra that you I mean asshole, like an

I love you, bro. I'm breaking up drums hotel hotel today. It's a wrap now mess. So we'll look forward to that man, man, fucking legend Wilson. It's a fucking pleasure's time, ya hate the eliot. God damn, I'm a Nazi, hate hate rap right off podcast, talk to him all up right. Oh my god. Yea