Rap Radar: Lil Yachty

did this journey even start? Men? Here's what I remember. B I was in New York. I was I was at the restaurant. I was enjoying the cocktail and you and you called me man. You'll never call me. You just straight called me. Yeah, And then he said yo, young boy. And I'm like, wait what I thought she was playing around? Man? What happened? Man? How do we pull this off? But how do we do it? Man? I just got a call and he was saying like, hey, you know, NBA Young Boy wants to sit down with

you guys. I'm like, you talking about me and Elliott the old guys. I'm like yeah, and he's like, you know, you really liked the Drake interview that you guys did, and you know it kind of wants to recapture that. I was like, oh wow, and you know, considering all of his legal issues, like where are we going to do this, They're like, well, you know, he lives in Utah, so you have to come out there. I'll say, we'll

be out there tomorrow. A big deal. But it turned out to be a big deal because you know, he had to go through a lot of approval. Yeah, that was that was crazy. It's like going to see the president of something, right. Yeah. In fact, we had to be vetted in stuff. They had to get the background checks and all that. Man, I DS you know, it took a while for us to get approved and only three people allowed in the house at the time, so, you know, with the Hyperhouse crew shout to Laura, Garrett, Brian,

you know, it was difficult. Kenya. We was like, how are we going to figure you know, rotating shifts in this guy's house. So it was a little bit of a challenge, but we made it through. Yeah, man, in the energy itself. Man, you know, I definitely want to thank young boy. You know, obviously he's never really done anything like this, like this type of sit down and you know, and you know, I think that you watch the endview and you see him kind of get more

and more comfortable as the conversation goes on. So you know, I really respect that, you know, he really came into the process that way and like you know, gave us his time man, And like, you know, it was it was a crazy experience, right, Like it was surreal almost to me. Yeah, it was to me too. I mean I've never been in Utah, so even just the environment itself was you know, out of my element, but it

was it was really cool, you know. And anytime you go to someone's house, it's always, uh, it's always like an honor you know, yeah, yeah, to their domain. Yeah, absolutely, And I love the reaction so far. Man, I feel like, you know, obviously young boy. You know, he's like my nephew Hunter, his favorite rappers, so like he's got the youth. We know that, right, So it's like it's great to know like a whole new generation. Maybe it's connecting to

our content. And then I see people older, like you know, older than you know, my age and around your age, Like you know, I think a lot of times they had this just one side of perception of dude, and like to see him sort of humanize. You know, I

think it's it's definitely connected with people. Yeah, definitely not to like a grandis our situation, but I feel like, you know, we did a really good job of bridging that gap, you know what I'm saying, because it's people that probably are familiar with his name in a lot of ways, he's like a known unknown name. But now you see this conversation, it's like, Okay, I kind of maybe I might not necessarily be a fan, but I'm open to listening to his music, you know, whether you're

you know, fifteen or thirty five. So I love it and it feels like one of those big ones be that man, you know, people being I know our story, man, We've been doing this for a long time since twenty fifteen, one hundred episodes what a company called CBS and we went to title were Excoose the title. From twenty seventeen to twenty twenty, we took a couple of years off, you know what I'm saying, and now we're back, man. But you know, we're not forgetting some big interviews like

with jay Z Drake Nipsey Hustle Will Smith. So I feel like young boy, you know, fair to say he's in that group now, right, it feels like one of our big ones, right Yeah, it's definitely in the candidate of all the great conversations that we had and also having those videos that definitely you know, take videos, big video. Man, thirty five right now, thirty five k right now? Man, the numbers, these numbers, I don't care about was. I care about doing a good job. I think we achieved that.

And Yo, you start to think about the thing with because when we did the intro, he said about the young Guns video, they better love. Yeah, and then I did the screen grabbing the thing, I were no better Pot and everybody loves that. Man. That sual was so stupid, like I mean, it looked it looked just like the video we gotta find a reil we got. We gotta five rout man, we gotta kind of no better Pot promo or something. Man we got And then Christendef were

in the comments. Man shout the young guys, Man shout the young gus man. Absolutely, and we were were gunning man. We got episodes in the care man, we got baby face coming up for the people. Man, I was an amazing conversation. Yep, we got DJA drama. You know, he's getting that album together. So when he gets the album ready, will drop that one. And and today's episode special too. Man, we got today Man a little yati man knowing his debut on the rapp right On podcast. It's been a

long time coming from him. And in a lot of ways, I was thinking, this guy's like a young o G. You know, he's on same years in the game and you don't think about it because he's only twenty five years old. And once again and once again he invited another one, invited us to his home man in Atlanta. Man, And you think Elliott Holmes homes true, true who was in his mama's house. His house is just a lot of homes. Man, come on, let this guy yo. The

pleaux is crazy and they're like yo. I think people realize that generation of artists, like with the streaming, how successful they truly are. Man with the golden platinum certifications, Like you know, y'all, he's a successful young man. Man, Like, don't get it twisted. While you're on the end of there trying to debate. You know, if he's successful or not. Let's be clear. We was at this guy's homes. He's quite successful. He's very well for himself. This young man

quite well for himself. And I got a shout out home my home girl g for Motown's A and R for the project. I think Billboard just recognized her as an executive. And you know, I went to an early listening to the album in December and stuff, and and she helped us, you know, set it up because he really hadn't done a lot of press. You know, he put the album out, it's obviously a different side of sort of sound for him. And yeah, I think he wanted the word to speak for itself. I saw he

did a low but I'm that he sat with us too. Um, So I gotta definitely shot Gi out for making that happen. And yeah, it was good vibes. Man. We met his mom's right mama, YADDI met. She's really really nice, really warm. She felt familiar, It felt like a family member, and she welcomed us with open arms. So shout out to her for sure. Yeah, man, it's a good one. Man. So I feel like, what a good streak right now? Be man, list you know, what I'm saying. We gotta

keep this up. Man, No pressure, Man, no pressure, well, ask Laura, asked Laura. Man you if you want more videos, man, asked Laura. Man, they're only cam man. Now, we gotta not to start giving your videos on more of a regular basis now, Man, we just set the bar, so we're gonna have to do it. It's only right, all right, But let's get into this right now. Man, you're gonna enjoy it. Man, Little Yadi Man making his debut. Man, that's his debut. B I didn't believe first time. First time.

Hopefully it's not the last. Yes, Yes, let's get into a man. Little Yadi Man rap right on podcast and man, we're back in the landing man. Yes, sir. Invited by the man himself, Little Yaddio. Hello, Bo, how are you sir? I'm good. You're making your debut. Want to rap right up? I've been standing to come out these type of things. That's not really my crown. But that's what I'm trying to say about you. It's like you're gonna you're gonna

tease this amazing album. This let's start here. You're gonna tease it for a while, say you're gonna do direction alternative album psychedelic, You're gonna say all that, hype us up, give us the album, and then you don't do no interviews. I have like nine thousand interviews, so like, I just feel like I feel like I have the most out of everyone from my generation, I think I spoke the most. I just felt like, shit, maybe I should step back up.

But you can't step back with this album because it's so different, such a pushing like you said, I think you said, it's like so you represents like a whole new chapter of your career. Yeah, But you know, the thing is, I feel like people give too much now. I feel like that's why I started on as big as it used to be, because you know everything and that there's anything you don't know, you can just go look it up. There's no surprise, you know, like people

back in the day they don't. I feel like people only gave you what they wanted you to see, you know, which left so much more element for surprise. And now, like, I don't know, I just feel like it's just people. It's just everything is out there now. If you're curious what somebody is, you could just check see you can probably that words whatever you like. They're just posted on the story or they in Linden. You know what I'm saying,

Like you could. It's not like too much access, yeah, you know, and I feel and I feel like I'm very guilty of that. Like I was beginning of my craft, very open, just just whatever you want to know. I'm open books whatever, I'm open book whatever. I'm twenty seventeen, I was on Twitch, you know what I'm saying, So like just all opening, which isn't a bad thing, I mean I think, but it does hinder your It hinders

your stardom. What is it like to fall back and then see like it has gotten an embracement that I think you wanted right like you put this project out. You has said like you want people to look at you more serious than artists, and it seems like that's what the reception has been. So what has it been like to kind of fall back and watch people consume

the project? It's cool, but I still feel like if you work through being dying, you know, I want to talk about that or second, because there is this conversation on the end there after I said that and people took it as me trying to say, like, oh, I hate when rappers say I wouldn't be taking as an artist, as if I was saying that that like rap isn't rap isn't like being like you're not serious if you're a rapper. That's not what I meant. But me specifically,

I do more than rap. You know, for a long time my career, I wanted to be takes as a rapper, and I said that, and so I would go trying do radio interview or freestyles or whatever just because I wanted that. I did Michigan boy Boat, you know, like I did things like That's when I was trying to prove my a rapper, you know, and I'm past that

now I'm proving I'm an artist, you know. But people, it's so crazy in music when you can do so many things, but people skip such a like if people don't follow you, you know, they have no clue of a history. So when they do start following you, they just completely right off whatever you've done beforehand, and no one actually does homework or care enough to go look back because just what they see, you know, so it's

year or two end. But I never rode off being a rapper as like not being taken serious, or we're not being as big as other genre musicians or any of that. I just specifically myself and I speaking on no one else or the genre. I wanted to be taking serious as an artists. That's so you tweeted you said you wanted to be respected as an artist. Do

you feel like you weren't being respected before? I feel I've always felt like I was gonna be respected as an artist, as a rapper, just in general, which is true. Thesn't mean we could act like it's not true, but it's true. You know, people came in and a generation where it was new, you know, and people hated us because we were not only were we fucking killing everything, you know, shitting on everybody, you know, making the most money or whatever. We were different and we weren't afraid

of it, you know. And it was a period of time where hip hop wasn't as nice, you know, as friendly, as colorful, as as as care free as it's becoming.

And I remember coming in it was niggas was gangster, you know, in hardcore and tough and street, and it was that's what it was, and that's what it had always been known until we knocked on the door and said hey, we're here, you know, and it was it was a tough thing for a lot of hip hop purists to accept for a long time until like we just like weren't going away, you know, it was trying to get rolled off as you know, we were one hit Wonders at First Step and one and like, oh

out the year, this should have fade. You know, we're still here seven years later. So I think it's become more. Also, the internet, you know, being is how it is now. I think everything has just come around to a different time period. But now I don't think I've ever really been respected until maybe now you know, um and that and and and it's I never cried of it, Like I was just saying I was shooting on respective earned right. So like I wasn't like, oh well I don't try

to respect me. I was okay, I earned it. I've always had that mindset. I've never felt like I was deserving it whatever. Like I cool, I get that, you know, maybe not be the mom and not be this album when I did it that you tweet that you're grateful for the response for the album, right, Like, what are some of those actions that you were expecting. It's not that it's nothing I wasn't expecting, you know, Um, I fully expect expected it because it is what it is,

you know, like the body of work is. It's great, you know, like I can say that full my chest out, you know, because I'm so confident in which I've never been able to say before about anything I've done. So I'm but just to see it in real time it's great because like I said, I don't I don't. Yeah, a lot of hate, which I don't give a fuck about it, but like you become accustomed to it and it just becomes a part of like everyday routine. So like when like you do something that you do you've

been doing for seven years and responses polar opposite. I mean, just like even from like like I've had people who love my music, but just to the way people are responding, like they give me deep details and like just thanking me, and like man, it's just just all these things that I'm just like I'm not really used to so I'm appreciative, but I never I've never to it. Gould do like cool to thank somebody and I appreciate something, you know, because like it wasn't an easy album to make, you know.

It took a lot of effort and work in time, and so for people to appreciate it and respect it, and and even if you didn't like it, you know, but like just like take the time. I'm appreciative because like I said, it wasn't easy and it took a lot of time. What was that process like for you? Oh, it was different than anything I've ever did. You know. It took six months to make I did in Brooklyn.

It was hectic. Now I did with these five white guys I had in a real small studio in Greenpoint, and it was like a fucking magic rock And we did every day for six months from like one pm to six am straight six months, you know, and then another six months after had a mixing them. U So like a good year. But as far as creating the project, it was a strong six months. Every single day for like I'm telling it was like a one to six am schedule. It just became something I was just like

I was amped on, you know. But at the same time, in real in real life, I knew like that I had this integrity because well I was. I knew that the project I was making was so different from anything I've ever done, right, So, like, with that being said in my mind, I had to tell me. I said, okay, well I know where I want to pivot, and the reason that I'm supposed to come out way earlier than

it did because it had been done. So I started telling myself, well, I got a fall back on shows because I haven't dropped any music, and I know I wanted a new look because it knew everything. So if I keep getting people face dropping rap music or doing shows, then it's gonna it's gonna be weird, you know. So I fell back. Did a year. I did no shows, which is hard because I did nothing. You know, I was in the house. Yeah, I did nothing. I know I did. That's a book just because of my integrity,

Like I know what in my drop. I know I'm about the pivot. I know where I want to do and obviously you can't book shows, you know, telling people, oh, you know I'm about to do something. I want to know if it's any good or not. You don't believe me. So like I just had to stand my back up and like like like I know what I'm doing, I know I'm about to do and then drop it. I never think will come and that's what happened, you know,

all these I'm getting book left and right everywhere. So it's cool, you know, but it was it was a long year also finding myself and just trying to figure out because I knew what I wanted to do, but I damn sure it and I know how to do it. So too, that the album you always wanted to make it absolutely absolutely, yeah, of course, um, just because it's

just different. No, like i'd be so keen on like I want to stand on if everyone's stand on the right, I want to stand on the left, you know, just because like no one thinks for themselves and that's cool, that's fine, But I got a brain. I use it, you know what I'm saying. So like I don't want to I don't I want to do what I want to do, you know. And I didn't know. I mean I knew, I knew that it was good. I didn't know if people would like it, but I knew it

was good, you know. Like I knew I stood on it, you know, and I was confident about it. And it's not no shit that I'd be like, man, I hate this song, like I knew I liked every song. I loved every song, you know, and I know I put my actual heart into it and I actually had something to do with it from start to finish. So who these five white boys in green Point Battery Batman, that's it's uh Sad Ponty, which is you got Justin raising,

uh Jeremiah raising their brothers. You got Patrick Wonberally Jake Portrait. That was fine. Yeah, those guys, one of them over there. Yeah,

they're great, man. They were really really intelligent guys, and they were able to take my vision and I because I'm I know what I want, but I don't have the best music theory, so like I'm not the best that completely saying what I'm trying to say, but they all could, like I'm just articulate what I was trying to get out every time, and we were able to bring it to life, which was great because sometimes I know what I want so bad when it comes to music,

but I don't know exactly, I don't know notes and all those kinds of things to say it, but iver to we worked together seamlessly and we really brought it to life. So where they like feeding you music that you weren't familiar with No No. I mean, we played music, but this is I listened to this stuff. Yeah, So like it was like this is my world. All my references came for me, you know. Every reference that I

did came from. Every reference on this album was something that I was listening to, what I was fucking with, what I was into, you know, for sure. So even with an album title like what do you mean by let's start here, let's start here? It was like I changed the album like six times the title, but but let's start here was was just basically it sounds like

it's chapter two. You know. I'm so grateful for my career, you know, and I'm so thankful for all the things that I've happened to me to be able to take care of my family and just live a comfortable life and and and even even entertain people and like, you know, make people happier or get people a song to love or whatever, you know, but I wanted more, Like I think, I think one thing that I feel like was always misunderstood about me was that it was how people perceived

me to be this guy who just like probably just was well this one in the beginning of my career. But just like it's like internet one hit wonder kid who got lucky? You know, like music, you didn't care. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't give a fuck, you know, because I didn't listen to Tupacer Biggie, right, you know what I'm saying. But music is my life, you know. I love all genres of it. It's a part of every single second

of my day, you know. So I think, um, let's start heal was just like it's like a clean slate, you know. And that doesn't mean yeah, but it doesn't mean I won't rapper again. It doesn't I don't like rapping or I'm done rapping. I'm no longer rapper. It's just like this is chapter two. Now what comes next? I genuinely don't even fucking know, right, but but this

is my arc. We're high. I stepped up and I show you know, my artistry, you know, my creativity, and just like I'm no longer were half ass and not that. And I feel like I've done a lot of half ass like um, and I'm just I'm no longer doing anything mediocre even the art direction too. Like it's like a bunch of executives laughing on the cover, like meeting behind that, you know, back to what I was saying in the first I want to leave everything open from

everything open for interpretation. You know, I don't want to I don't want to spoil or ruin anything for anyone. But I mean there's reasons for everything, you know. But I like people. I like letting people think whatever they want to think. Was that quickly? What's something that you landed on? Is you wanted to vision to beat at? It?

Was that something? Now? Like I said, I changed the six seven times everything about it from the cover to the artwork, like six seven times because it was just like, man, it was so many elements that it was. The album goes so many places. So it's like you could name it so many things. It could be about so many things. They could represent so many things. What was your biggest

challenge in creating the album? We look back at it, like I said, just mind my integrity, like saying, okay, well, I can't do I can't try to do no you know, rolling lows or like all these no shows or like no rap festivals or anything like or Ion dropped no rap music nothing. Because I'm trying to I know that I want to switch my image, you know, and if you just keep That's why I was upset on Poland Job because like um, I was, I was planning the

arc of changing, you know. So like when this big rap fun record came out, it just it wasn't where I was trying to go, you know. So it was real irritating. But I'm thankful nothingtheless, because it was received well. Um, and it kind of gave away my sound just a little bit, you know, for the album. But it feels like you know, back in like twenty twenty one, like the record like Love Music or even like Breathe Deeper,

it has elements of that deeper. Yes maybe, and I think not really, but you know what it is, people just compared to Tamon Pilot because people's palette don't that's not stretch that far. How you feel about that, Like there's a lot of critics that have accusing you just well, first off, I want to say that Kevin Parker is a very big inspiration, you know, but nothing sounds like him,

you know on the album. You know, like he inspired me absolutely, Tam and Poler absolutely inspired me, but nothing There's not a song you could play and then play a Tam Paula song. I'm like, see, like there's no recollection, you know what I'm saying. But but people, like I said, and it's something that Tyler taught me a while ago

that people don't know much. So like when people see something, they just compare it to whatever it's the closest thing they can, which is Tim and Poler because that's only that's really genuinely almost the only psych rock people in the modern demographic Note you know, or Pink Lloyd you know. So it's like those two, which those two both did inspire me. But um, yeah, it's cool. I don't I don't really think anything that sounds like deeper, but I understand,

you know, I was. I was super hyped that he even reached out to me to do that remix. Um, but it's not it inspired me to make the album. I was already on this path. Yeah, I think when the album drop, I think Tyler. You speak of Tyler the creator, who's a friend of yours, somebody you said you talked to for advice or chop it up with. I think he shared running out of Time when your album came out, you know, if that's his favorite from from the job Oh. Nah. I don't know if that's

his favorite. He hasn't. We haven't talked about it. He asked me. He texted me the other day, but we didn't really get into it. I don't know if that's his favorite, but I just see that that was That was great. But he was a big reason why I did start the project. Not because it's something he did, but just a conversation we had that really just got me off from my butt, like, Okay, if I'm gonna do something, I should just hone in and do it, you know, like I said, not half ass, really fully

go in and do what I want to do. Keep saying half assed, you think you're just being harsh to yourself. Hal Fast just means half made some big records, my guy. But I Fast me it's just like man, half fast and it's just like picking fifteen songs and and okay, this's the album, you know, hal Fast and just taking a bunch of beach and just like a bunch of records and I have nothing to do with each other, and just kind of like, ah, this is what it is.

That's what I did. I thought I'll record a couple hundred songs, picked the ones I thought sounded best because you say you work fast. Yeah, yeah, I'm not still right fast. I did this album fairly fast compared to someone else. I doubt anyone else could do it as fast. We're faster, you know, to the sonic level and to the just to where it is. You know. Um, I didn't cut any corners, but I still did it pretty fast. Oh no, even videos like I didn't really fully put

all into that. It just like or anything. It's just kind of like, I don't know, I just never really I don't know. It's not that I didn't care, because I cared, but I just was younger and I just wasn't really like it must have been crazy for you because he came in. It was intentional though, right, you come in red hair, I'm a dude. He feels like too much gangster me like I'm here to shake the whole ship up and did that. I wasn't my intention to shake shut up. I was just coming in as me,

you know. But once we came in shot we I started realizing what was happening. But my attention was I wasn't like offen fuck the rap, damn up, you know, like I was just a kid, who made music, you know. But I also I wasn't going to back down from anything. I'm gonna back down from any DJ or any anyone saying oh you were this or you can't do that, or y'all or this y'all. I just I didn't care. Yeah ever, you know. But that wasn't intentionally like my plan wasn't to come like fuck, shut up. I just

want to make some money. Maybe it was a lot of that. And you say you blew out like he said he blew about thirty millions before he was twenty five. Now that's true. That's the fact was. I was taking a mom duke and she was saying, like, how you know you have like over one hundred and fifty endorsements and like made the Forbes list twice. He got the pizza brand and Walmart, like I didn't even realize old like y'all, he's this ultimate spokesmanth like get out of

the way. Shock. Well. I love that man. I could so cool. I'm just happy I met him and connected with him. He's such a business man. But I think it's just it's more to it. It's more puzzles to a piece than one. And I think that's always where I've been ahead of other artists, other rappers, artists both, you know, Like it's there's so many pieces to a puzzle them just the music you make, right, But sure in the Walmart pizza brand, that's doing pretty well, right,

I love it. I can eat it for free your own. That's great. That's been. It's so good for real, absolutely ahead to get a slice after we're done. But it's also dope about the album, man, I noticed, you know, you have a lot of different voices on there. You didn't put them on there on the track list. I was intentional. It was off. Man, it was like a thing I just wanted to be. I like, I just didn't want you to focus on that, you know, Um, I wanted you to focus on the album. It's how

about who's born it? It's just about the music. It's just not even about me all the time. I'm not even like I'm not in every part of every song. That was just about the It's an experience. It's a it's a it's a like, it's a feeling in a moment, you know. So it's not about like, it wasn't about the lyrics, it wasn't about the bars. I wasn't trying to wow anybody and like just like, oh you heard what he said. It wasn't about that. It was just the experience that it'll take you one if you relax

yourself and allow yourself to get into it. You know. Now if you go into it like with a frown face and your arms crossed like ship whack, you know, like you a little bit hard of it. If you if you you know, going to with a blank canvas and just listen, it can truly take ease. That seems like it was with the Planetarium listening session provider, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean that was just a fun exper you know. I had never got to do anything cool to that magnitude.

I feel like no one's done that, so I just wanted to like it's just some fun for people. Yeah, you know, but you do have people on here like Justine Sky Touchdown, Dan your Seeson. How did you select those voices for the project? Isn't just my friends? Yeah? I didn't. I didn't want to use anyone big because, like I said, I wanted people to respect my industry. Like it was many times when I wanted to be like Tyler, let's do something you know like it was a lot hot of people. I really don't want to

work out work too. You know one part I did reach out to the Weekend for say something, but they never got back to me. But I did one that was the only person I was like, Damn, I would love to have the Weekend. I want to say something that could be really cool. But it's all good that I thought. I see, I see you still have your limbs because you didn't work with Kid Cutty yet. I actually I actually did. I don't get that reference. What does that mean. I did say that right off to

work with Cutty. I I wanted him on the album too. He didn't respond either. Yo, now I'm not doing a deluxe. Man, this is bigger than that. But I did try to get with credit. That was the person that I also. It wasn't many people I telling him, but Cutty was when someone I tracking around, and I did try to get the Weekend one album. I've sent Cutty a bunch of songs in the beginning process and it probably weren't as good and uh, he never got back to me

the so but I get it. You know that's sound good. But then I became became a confidence I started making it, it became a confidence thing and it was like, well, I don't want anyone on this, yeah, you know, extract feel like my friends. I needed voices because I'm not the best singer, so I needed voices, strong voices to compliment and to carry on and to just create the emotion that you know. Sometimes I how it tune takes away from pure voices and um and just creatives, you know.

So that's why I tapped in. You know, I am Daniel Caesar and uh, she's a touchdown just things god, Diana Gordon. Yeah, let think say something that's still my favorite, Like why did you decide to put that off on me too? Did it feel it? But did it feel like a hit per se or just a record kind I mean, it's a couple of records I feel like I hit on there. But that was the first record

we made. I made to start the process. So that record was the one of them said okay, I know what I'm about to do now, which is weird because it sounds nothing like Black Seminar or something like that. But that was the first one, and it was just one of my favorites, you know, And it was the one that everyone always grab gravitated towards But being with g A and R and all these people, they was like, oh that that is a sigle p. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. If I didn't want to release it like too much

earlier because I wanted it all to be fresh on you. Yeah, but I did really say a day before or the day of, just earlier in the day. We can get more videos too. Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely we work. We'd rather to drop a shit don ship. Yeah, what's the process? Like, you know, obviously you made a bunch of rap albums and this time around, you know, you say he took six months set on it for a year and after is it more meticulous fine tuning a project? I've never

did a broder like this ever. Everything was from scratch, no samples. And also there's no samples, There was no everything was from scratch. So every everything was from like except for the Bob Ross that was the only example. And I was I was just we were in the studio mixing and it was on TV and I heard the message. I was like, oh man, that's the powerful message. I want that, and I pulled it up. We watched on TV and I went on YouTube grabbed it and then fucked it up. To me, it sound crazy, but

but everything was from scratch. Yeah, so everything in ninety seven percent of it was all live band. So I was like, say something, I ain't paint the sky, but uh no pens got drums or actual real but it was definitely different, but not even like a bad hard way, just like in a fun, exciting, oh shit, I'm really making music way. You know. I'm so used to just going to my emailing download the beat and like, which is great, which is nothing wrong with that, but I

just felt hands on. I actually felt like I was doing something and and producing and really, hey, I want to I want to trump it here. I mean the strings here. I want to just here and slow that down, spit that up, you know, like it was fun like

a conductor. Yeah yeah, yeah, just and it was all from my brain and my heart and my ears, so like it just felt I felt so much more attached, you know, opposed to like some kid and fucking wherever sent the beat and like I just wrapped on it like this, I was every part of this, I was a part of which was It just felt like I felt like I was doing something. Going back to the

Poland thing. Like you said, the Poland thing. You know, you've been very clear that that wasn't attention or it leaked and it came out, Well, you didn't concern when that took off that maybe that's gonna like be a factor and like maybe they're not gonna embrace my new direction absolutely, I like you just said it. On the hand, I was That's why I was so irritating, because I was like, Fuck, this is what they're gonna want now, Like I want more rap me. They don't want more

this shoddy, you know. And it was irritating and frustrating. And it was then then honestly I felt like not up in the album out for a couple a couple of times, you know, because I was like, I gotta I had made a whole rap album actually, you know, and I was like, I gotta, I can't do this yet. I got dropped this now because that's what they're expecting. And thankfully, man, I just man, I just I just

ain't had another conversation with Tiler. And there was a lot of inner battling, you know, between like just being nervous and not knowing. But I just war my gud and trusted my creativity and just did what I ultimately came to do, you know, and that was that project, and I had it done and and just just doubled

on believed in myself. Right because also even coming off you, I want to talk about your involvement with her loss, but like you would think that, okay, even with that, and then here in Poland, like, oh he's going in so this rap direction. Yeah, her lost ship didn't really affect me any because it was him, you know, that's that's all him, you know, that had not do with me, Like that's his claim, you know. So I was like, I, you know, it was just me, you know, throbbing with

a friend. But Poland shit definitely had me like fuck yeah yeah, And I was like fuck right yeah, playlist yeah. But it's funny that you embrace it though, like you didn't ignore it though you said, Okay, well if you want this motherfucker's I'll put it on drop. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I just why not, you know, although like I definitely was like irritated, but why not? I didn't know what's going to do that at all. I had no clue it was about to be that big, but it was it was fuck it. I mean, I had

no reason not to drop it. But besides the Bob broad sample that you felt was a powerful message, one track that stood out to me was a failure. And it's like this, you know soliloquy where you're looking at the glasses half full, right, And then one of the lines that I found really interesting is that you said, it's you know, it's complicated when things when you become rich and famous, right, things get complicated absolutely, like how

so in what ways? And then and so in every way because they just the first and most mom, keep it the most ma, we're interviewing. Love you, love you, the most important thing, I mean, the most honest, the truthful, most truthful. Thing about that line is that it's just I don't want truthful is the right thing to they? But like the answer that no one cares anymore, just to be honest. And that's what this whole thing was.

That's what the whole thing was about. It's like no people care, but like nobody cares, you know, like like oh I'm sick, it's fuck and like throws her in. But you want a picture, and I understand you. You reard me say no, But but this is your moment and you want a picture. You know, you don't give a fuck that I'm sick. You don't give a fuck because it's like you think you'll never see me again, you know, And it's it's unfortunate. She's loud, ma, ma,

where are you? You gotta you gotta dentiful. These doors aren't even their glass. That's guy's gonna do anything. Sink it literally just goes the steps. It's cool. She's she's crazy. Where's he even right there? Why didn't she like go? She's crazy about the picture? Like he said that, you know,

this be the only time meeting you. Yeah, that's one aspect, right, But even more than that, you go to a time period of when people want something, they just want it, you know, Yo, man, man dog man, keep my lights, Man, I need eight thousand dollars, hey like man my light bill man, I need eight rack Yeah, man, you need eight that's a light man my lights and the water man, I need eighty fun right, you know, And it's like and it's people don't think about how many times you

say yeah that one time saying that far, I mean it gonna fuck like man's nigga. Man. But even fuck money and even fuck pictures. Just like for me, I was seventeen years old, right, I turned eight, James, but like I just graduated high school, graduate to high school and may went to college put two three months, dropped out and was famous. I mean I signed a million dollars deal about it April, right, so the next April.

So it was so many experiences that I went through my life that I felt like I had no one to talk to about, you know, whether it was women or whether it was like fucking when I was going through that phase with the with the big and Tupac ship, when people were like sending the death threats and like like and and just like all this shit. You know what I'm saying. From all I said, I could go through a main situation with even with the first three.

So I did with EBRO when I didn't do so well and people fucking shitted on me for like the two weeks straight, and you know, like all that shit was like who you talked about that the homie because he gonna look at you like, well she didn't you still got I mean, I don't think what you're saying for you know what I'm saying, Like because people don't understand it. And and quite frankly, people just don't give a fuck if you're in a better situation than they're, like, nigga,

so what so I could up, you know. And it's like being rich doesn't exclude your feelings and he doesn't make it invincible. And I'm saying, you still deal with things, still deal with heartbreaker, you know anything, you know what I'm saying. And people don't truly understand that. So that's why I started talking about, like, you know, it's not that I don't think people care, you know, I just think it's hard for people to understand what they haven't seen,

which money doesn't absolve your problems. Yeah, absolutely, and I mean and in no way. And you don't understand that unless you truly have it, you know, and have experienced it, you know, because if you don't have money, you think all the texts, whatever you need, you get that money, You're good. Life is good. Man? Have I had him? Man? People all say, man, I've had one million dollars, many things great, I just need one, Like what the fuck

is it? And I'm not saying that in a in a way like and like in any kind of way, but just like, man, it just gonna bring you so many more problems, you know, and it never stopped and which which as you know, just be honest in our culture and we're ready for it. Who's teaching it to us? You know? No one taught me and my mother how to what to do with millions of dollars, you know what I'm saying. No, not my high school. I didn't have any rich peers. I didn't grow up with any

mentors with six even six figures. So who's gonna teach me to save and to invest into? Who? You know? It took years until I started meeting people to actually talk in my ear and show me this and hey, what you're doing. And it took losses. It took failing, and it took spending, and it took being read to be like oh shit, oh and I'm not gonna be as high forever. Oh shit, I gotta you know, I gotta figure this shit out, you know, and change some things,

you know. But I appreciate those moments because if I didn't have them, I would know because ain't nobody teaching me and ain't know YouTube video, you know what I'm saying, Like I had to go through it and I figure it out myself. And but now and now, and I've done it, so I feel like I did it rather fast because I'm only twenty five, right, so like I got so much life to live. Yeah, and that's why I stay chapter two. This let's start here because now I'm about to do it all over again and probably

lieel better. Is that why it's important with chapter two to have a song like Failure, which is really spoken where were you really breaking it down? It's showing I'm rother. It's important, but I've never done anything that honorable. None of my music is deep, and know it was just fun music, you know. So like I was like, man, this album so different. I think I would maybe something personal maybe, you know, like and I was a little nervous at first because like even talking about my house

getting broken into and just shit like that. But but I was just like, maybe it'll help somebody, you know, maybe it'll maybe it'll guide someone in a tough time or just let somebody know. Like, dude, it's old, kay to fail, as I'm ass, you dust yourself off and get back up. But even if even though you don't have those there's no school for this, right you did have You know QC, you have P and Coach K like how influential and ipan coach K. But if we're gonna be completely honest, QUC was a um was a

local label until I came. You know, it was it was Atlanta based, who KNEWO Megos were, But it was not like it wasn't the roster was very local besides the Megos, you know, and they didn't even have like they had some records, but it wasn't. It was still an independent label, you know. When I came to QC. Then we took it to Capitol Records and it became an actual like full fledged force. And then after that then Bad and Bullsha came and then it became this

thing and then we started making all this money. When I first came, coach it coach like like they had money, but it wasn't like what it is now. So even then they and even before me, Coach had like Street Ye had Jez and Gucci. It's like it was a different money than the money that we started making. So I didn't really like it was serious. So like we didn't really even Nica what was he it was? It was rather new to him too, you know what I'm saying, like like for real, for real, and he was getting

it was had money from. No, I don't know where. I don't even know, you know what. I don't know where peaking money came from. But the money that we all started generating after I came to the label, it was new to all of us, you know what I'm saying. It was like a serious type and it was new. So like it wasn't like it was we was all like living happy like it was great, you know, but

so I didn't it just it wasn't there. And I'm like that person and be like, hey man, I heard like they wasn't like fucking investing in fucking bonds and shipping whatever fu you know what I'm saying. So I like it was just new, you know. And also I think, which I appreciated, They let me live, you know, like I was a kid and I was like experience new life and they allowed me to do that, you know, make you try to feel some sort of rapper. None, And they just didn't make me do nothing I didn't

want to do, you know, like they didn't. They didn't. He never tried to shit on me and be like, hey man, stop doing this, don't do that, or he encouraged me, like man, look because he wanted me to be happy and it made him happy and we were happy. And that's what it was and what I'm saying. And at the end of the day, it was it was cool though, you know, like I don't I would if I could go back, I swear I wouldn't change anything because I feel like it did nothing but making me like,

just make make work harder. I want to make more money. You know what, are you making a goal for the label now? And scoot to Ron and all these deals so sick and I'm so happy bro them. Those guys have done so much for me, you know, and they deserved I think they deserved more than that, you know. But like man, they put everything on a line for us, and it was nothing they wouldn't do and havn't done

for me. And so like I like I Bron and they've been there, you know, when it was cold and nobody was talking about lot yity and Niggas was, oh he's still a lob and make it those kind of jokes. Those two guys were in my corner, you know what, and like helping me with anything, whether it was a video need to be shot, whether it was any kind of funding for anything or anything, or they supported me always,

you know, and they never turned it back. And they never said, oh man, we can't, we can't afford to do that right now. You ain't really making us no money. They didn't do that. They never did me like that, you know what I'm saying. So I'm happy for them, and I feel like they deserve it, and they worked extremely hard, you know, and so I'm so grateful. I'm

thankful that they I'm just happy for him. You know, that ship was big and they black and they and they don't come from nothing, and it's like it's just good, you know, absolutely absolutely how it does this open doors and and push it forward for the next black Um label. You know what I'm saying. They all the other labels been doing them kind of deals, you know what I'm saying. So like, yeah, you know, not that's not it's just time to keep coming. Pause. Oh that was great. Pause there,

But let's pick up for you. A Drake man like Elliott met you to talk about her loss. It seems like, you know, you and Drake have been real solid over the last year. It's like talk about how that relationship best guy, that's my guy. He's a good guy. You're you're pretty clue with him too that he tells me. I know he's a good guy. I don't know that's but you're the genius found her loss? Just break it down. I don't know what her loss? How did that role

come about? Man? Man, I for a very long time wanted to just do anything involving music with him, so like I kind of like went telling him for the last like, I don't know how it's like bro out. Can I just like, can I even just be in a run? I just want to soak it up and just see how you do it. I want to seeing you rap. I want to anything. You know. I'm for real because I just like I feel like he is, to my opinion, if not, the greatest rapper ever, you know,

And that's my personal opinion. I ain't argue with nobody with their mama, you know. Um. But and I just I looked up to him, so I was like, man, is there anything I can He always loved me, I beat selection. You know, He's one of the first people like to post my album, one of my albums, and

it's like Man, your beat selections are so crazy. I was, and that's crazy to hear from him, you know, especially during times when nobody was really fuck with me, Like I never had many rap friends, you know, like I feel like a lot of the rap people I even hung around because I was probably QC, you know, like I wasn't QC and around like me goes or like you know, like just the street energy, Like I probably wouldn't even be around a lot of people, you know,

like like I met Thug through Pete, Like I probably would have never met any of those people if I wasn't QC. So like I just never had many friends in hip hop or being embraced by many people. So I just I was like, man, anything I can do. And then we just we hung out and and then I don't know, man, just happening. I don't even know what it is that people think I did. But what Savage him with making records and then you got involved or you was kind I mean, what does that mean?

What it means? Like I see production credits, I see back outside Boys Rappers Boys production for four songs have production credits by Little Yati. Two other songs have writing credits with Little Yadi Basy's Distribution Circle local. I don't know what. I don't know that mean it means you're the secret weapon. I don't know. I don't know what that means. I don't know. I was just in the rent. Do you feel good about the project? I think it's great.

I think it's great. I think it's great just because I was there, you know, But I like all these records. No, I don't like that's a lot. But but but to be a part of something that he's done, Man, it's like rubbers Drake, you know what I'm saying. So like it be it be cool, it'd be like special. It's just like damn, bra I don't take nothing for grant.

I always, man, so many times in life, I always by myself flashback into being in middle school, it being in high school, or wrapping in the mirror at home, or like fucking just walking home from school with headphones and blasting science music that I'm now in a room with or anything, so like it was it was great.

And to be respected so much by him, you know, by like that shouldn't mean a lot, respect me more than meaning anything, you know, So like to even be respected by him and it means a lot to you know, and to be respected by so many peers now since making this album, who I've been talking to or speaking to and just have giving me like props that shit, I mean everything, I don't care to work like you give me respect, That's everything I mean. Like damn, okay,

I'm doing the right thing. I'm like, I'm as a as a as a man, like as a creative. You see me, you know, you see me as a creative, and that's that's all I care about. How good does that feel? Because that let's start here, that was your intent, right, But when I see I did all that. I met with all the people before it came out, So that's

when my confidence was like one hundred percent. You know the people I met, when I met when I remember obviously I played for Drake, I played for Kendrew, played it for j Cole, played for Tyler, played for forty,

I played it for post Malone, A Rocky. You know, these are people every last mole then the people like who I grew up listening to, and but previously, this is the album I never played a record for anyone ever because I just never cared and I honestly felt like no one else ever cared, and I just never really believed it didn't work that much to like but like I feel like I'm wasting someone's time, you know, to be able to be able to sit face to face for every person I named played the record and

see their reaction and get the respect and like, you know, it ain't it ain't like a man, I gotta go. Can you stop that? It's like listening listening to it, like what the brook? This is insane? Like I would that gave me all the confidence, like, oh, I know what I got because these people aren't just like it's not anybody you know. These people have you know, real taste. When did you know that you felt confident enough to be able to share it with people? Oh, once I

was finishing it, it was great. It's not a regular project, you know, and it doesn't sound like anything that anyone's done. Man. And and to be honest, I just didn't know I could do it. So when I did, I was like, oh, this is fucking crazy, Like it's not this is not some bullshit. It's just not like no, I didn't play around. This is not YouTube type beats. This is serious production. Fuck anything else the production is serious. You know, Um, you have a favorite like sonic moment on the album

We saw the Sign. I love we saw the sign. We saw the Sign. It's just like that was like when Ann Clemens coming at the end and he does that like those humming and that that that just it's really for it. Yeah, I love it. It's crazy. Oh don't know, man, I just I just put everything into it, you know, from writing writing ninety five percent of the album, myself entire album, to just like I have my hand in every part of it, you know, like I like

hand molded everything. So it's like I just believed in so much more so going back to her loss though, right, I know you say you didn't have too many rat friends, but obviously there's another person on the twenty one Savage. Did you guys have a relationship prior to I mean, we're really cool again, bro. I just I just quiet.

I don't think people really paid too much attention to me. Yeah. Well, I mean people know where I was, but I don't think people really like paid too much attention, which I understand. But I think her loss made a lot of people like look at me and be like wait a second. It must be something. We don't see it even now I see like I can I see or even now. But when it dropped and just I saw so many people in doubt of me having even anything to do with it, Like I don't even no matter what they

thought it was. It was like people just like, no, it's no way, no, he just he did eat the ad libel. But I saw the opposite. I felt like when something like back Outside boards or Jumble Umble, like that could be a yeah, I don't know, I don't know name no, but even back Outside, like you're like you're pretty much on every athlete of it. It's almost like a collaboration between you guys, right, Like how did that song come together to back Outside joined shrug? I

don't that. Man's just magic Wi you were to studio together. Of course I've spent like that that whole album process. I was damn. Theyre like living with him and that shit was crazy. Man Inger rich Nah, but man, he made me like, okay, I gotta go get it. His life is fantastic. Yeah, he's so. He's one of those people so rich. You know someone's rich when they're so rich that you come around as company and then you feel rich because everyone acquires to your needs to like that.

They're only nice to me, Like my assistance they only work for me. My friends come out and I didn't get your own water, you know what I'm saying. But but his assistance, they're like, man, you needn't think like can that's different risks, like they work for everyone. That's damn he got a chef and a butler and like it turned but it's just it's inspiration, you know what

I'm saying. Like the thing about that, right, it's like i'd be so openly loving to Drake because like, not only does the man embrace me, but it's like it's a thing where like I saw this thing, right, I'm jumping out over this chicken head. She posted on her story and she said she did like a thing when you could, like when you could post it and people could respond to it. She said, what's your ick? Right? And someone said, I hate I hate when he got a big brother, like I hate when he got a

big bro. And I found that so confusing because like I understood she was trying to say. She was trying to say, like you know, if he's a runner, or like if heat a little bro but but you gotta understand that if you have a circle of friends or a circle of people who you act, who you're active with, and everyone looks to you, if everyone looks up to you, everyone got their hand out to you, you motivate everyone.

You could suck dry, you get pulled from if you have no one to pull inspiration from the water you to inspire you, to show you that there's another threashold there's a higher level. You'll be so content You're like, oh, I'm the man, I did it. This is what it is. Yeah yeah, and you'll never just you'll never know where to go next, and you get frustrating, you get tired because everyone, Bro, can you help me here? Can you him do this? Then? What should I do now? Man?

My rent dude? Man? Man, Man, can I ball shirt? Man? Can you know what I'm saying? But post when you got someone who was can inspire you and motivate you. Man, Man has taught me so much, you know what I'm saying, Like he showed me so many ways and he's done so many things for me that like I can never even repair him for you, femily, so like i'd be open with it, Like man I don't care what nobody say.

Team Drake Man, I got the tattoo man Man, that's my brother, your family like, so I'm um, um, i'd be open And I'm saying, niggas be hating broody, yeah, because if people hating on him going with the I'll see never minding yea, which was a far with me personally. I thought it was a great project. Yeah you know, I don't. I don't really know where people didn't like.

But honestly, it's like a lifestyle album. You have to have been outside, you know, if all you did was go to your local show club, you won't understand that. You gotta have been on a yacht, been on the boat, been on the island, had a button up shirt with the top six unbutton like you gotta have been even had a flower in your drink like you have to have live. You have to live that type of life

to understand. Honestly, never mind, Yeah, I fly on your drink, you know what I'm saying, Sugar around a ram type shit. You know what I'm saying. But I know, but at least from us interacting with drink. After that, though, like he got what everybody got with that whatever, like didn't love that, but you know, nobody could deny her loss, right, So it's got to feel good to like have this thing with like a reminder of like, oh, I think he I think that's why he did it. I think

he was, which I don't personally. I don't think he had to. I don't think he had to do her loss. I thought, honestly that mine was amazing, you know. But he's a he's a he's like me him are so similar. He's I'm gonna show you type of guy. He's like, Okay, I bet I'll show you, you know. And and it's crazy because it I mean, it's like at the point you where you don't have to do that. But he's still he's like, all right, y'all, don't think I could wrap or y'all think it's over all right, so you

can show you. Yeah, And I was hurt. That's where her loss was, man. And then he's so generous, you know, like just be honest. He could do her loss by himself, you know, but he's like, he's such a generous guy. He loves twenty one, you know, man, and and brought him along for that that journey and that Rod but he definitely didn't have to do her loss. Even if he didn't do anything. I mean, he's Drake, do whatever fuck you want to do. How's probably for you. That's fantastic.

It's it's something, you know, it's I haven't been able to truly bask. Shit's been so hectic, but it's it's it's insane. It's crazy, and it's like watching like I can't even compare to watching it. But it's just how fast they grow. It's like what the fuck? Shit Like it's trippy, it's like bro. And then it's like you

just don't think about your childhood. So to see a kid like experienced it for the first time, like we take for granted all the things that we do on daily basis and that we know whether it's like just like even like I saw I watched her see her shadow for the first time and she was like what she was like like, you know, it's like that we're just like we're so old, so we take it for granted,

but it's like crazy. I watched her looking in the mirror for the first time and like like right, and it was crazy, and I was like, damn, man, that's tight. You know, so like it was. It's it's it's it's

a refreshing and it's wholesome. It's like it's no, there's not one enge of negativity and raising child, you know, like there's no you have to put Hayte into a child's mind, you know, Like it's all loved, it's all joy like, there is no like like all she want to do is laugh you me, like I'm singing, and play and eat. You know, she don't want to hate. She don't want to judge. She not like, oh I hate that show dad, you know, like it's like she just loved. She just want to laugh and just play

and eat again, you know. So like it's it's like it's great because it's so different than just the real world. You know when you step outside, when I leave her house, you know, or she leaves my house, is like that, it's it's back to reality, right. But beat Out says it's just the beginning, though he wants to have five kids, absolutely five five before thirty five. I didn't say that's it, but bloody yeah maybe, but but but man, bro I grew up a lime man. I got a sister and

I got a brother. Where all six she's apartment, my brothers a bitch and my sister. But like my sister up there, she's six years younger than me. So I'm twenty five, she's nineteen. And when I was in the house at seventeen, she was fucking whatever, fucking I'm bad at mat So whatever that number is, you know what I'm saying. She was a baby, like a little girl, so like what the work was on? Say, nah, yeah, so we hadn't talking about now that I am where

I'm at and she's nineteen. That age, man, that demographic. They those kids are just like they don't care about nothing, Like she don't care that I am who I am. She don't care to hang out, she don't care, but don't give a fuck at all. Because my theories, that's my thirty five years is a generation now, yeah, these kids, so it's like that's six years, right, five years the whole generation. So it's like, yeah, your old school. I'll

be surprised. I even like if I even catch her thinking doing thinking something, I'm doing this cool, I'd be like her, you know, like like I'll come in and hear me I'm usually playing with that play wow, I start jumping around like I didn't think. She didn't even fuck with me as the time, so like it'd be cool to even see her support man, but he's stuck

in the five kids think he's duck. Oh no, I know I want for sure, I want a bunch on a family because I bro, I used to grow up and be so sad, bro I used to see I used to try and find big brothers and other niggas who owed me no loyalty you know what I'm saying, which you just ended up fucking hurting it in or fucked over or just finessed or anything. You know, like because my brother wasn't dead for me, my brother coming

out into my life until I got famous. You know, he came to my life with a motive you know what I'm saying, which was not beneficial to me at all, solely to himself, and it was unfortunate. So like I never want I don't want my daughter rub It's almost like you want your children to have that support, just like someone to like like man like it's Stanley is supposed to be like closer than anything, but like it doesn't always work out that way, you know, But I

think it's all depending why how you raise him. You know, like my my brother had a different mother than me and my sister. You know, we are at the same father, but she had different mother. So he grew up in a different product town, different hood. And I was always to say, I'm yadi now was I've always been three though. I was a fucking weirdo. My brothers from the hood, like the middle of it. He looked at me like the skinny jeans and colors, like braising red hair, like nigga,

you're a freak. Like you're a creep, you know what I'm saying. Like he was a real crip, you know what I'm saying. So like he thought I was a fucking weirdo. So he got he was always in and out of prison, you know. So like last time he got in prison, I tried to really help him and be there, you know, support him. He got out, took him in. I was just there, like whatever needed he just I don't know, he fucking it's a nerd. I don't know. Fuck that dude. I don't care. Like he was.

He's just never been family to me. He's never had my best interests, he's never cared for me. He's just never has you know, like he only cared about himself. So I never wanted that for I don't want that for my kid, you know, man, Man, I just think it's cool. I think i'd be bro. I get when people go to cookouts and family rings and they have a big families that shit tight. You got pictures and it's like teen cousins. It's like that's it's just a

lot of love. Man. You can't go wrong with love. Man, you can't go wrong with like a ton of love at a dinner table or at a cook I like, I love love, bro. As I got older, I started to realize, Man, this materialist stuff is great. I love it. I got nice cars and that's all. It's fun. But it don't but it don't it don't it do not feel like day in love and caring and like it's just like fun, you know, like like, man, i'd be

so happy, like little moment. It's like, man, and a group mess today with my mom, dad and my sister. That shit made me so happy, you know, like like we in a group message like this is like and it's probably normal to a lot of people. That shit. To me, it is like, man, my dad on me sister were talking right now, you know, like we never

we don't have many moments all of us. Yeah, because my dad and mom divorced when I was eight, you know, and then my sister was a baby, so like it just it was no, we never did a family trip.

We never like we never went to dinner. Never even now to the day, you know, so like shit like man in the group message just made me like feel good you femily, so like I don't take none of that stuff, Like I appreciate all those things you talk about, Like your dad was a photographer kind of like more in my era of like really shooting rappers like the Kanyak outcasts and stuff and bringing you around, Like do you have any memories that really sit out to you

of experiencing like any interaction. I mean this, I mean the thing that was the biggest was just anytime I went to his house every other weekend. So that's how my parents did. So every other weekend I will come within the week and in a week and a half or whatever the case, me and Beanny. He would have done so many new things. And back then it was like the film stuff and it was he was a

big preprinted ship. It was digital but he was. He loved to blow things up, so I would Yeah, So I would come to his house and me he'd have all these huge photos the way he just had done in the last two weeks night, and he would be, oh, man, we were just in London. Here, this is Kanyee London, and then this is John Legend and in Seattle, and then it just saying this show. And he would just

tell me his stories, you know. And then then he just play all types of music and he liked in saying saying just like we watched Dave Chappelle and just like I don't know, my dad loved music, you know, but but he had visuals to it, you know. He had pictures, you know, And so he would have a picture and tell me about it and explain it to me. Or even if he didn't explain to me, I would if I'd be home alone in his house, I just would go through him and look at him and just

be like, damn, this is crazy. He was just like, this is weird, this is arts here, this is like even when he went to Africa with Delta to like take pictures or like I think habitat for him many it was been in the houses and just you saw the kids the first time I've ever seen anything like about Africa and just like you know kids and like dirt rolls and just like the lifestyle in Ghana, you know, and it's just like whoa Like my dad always kept me like and my toes like he always I would

come back home to my house and be all the homeways and they would be like, bro, how do you know this? How do you know this song? How did you hear this? Every full my entire life, and it always kept me to be like this guy who was just like my individual being. You know. I never leaned on anyone for nothing. I've always just kind of been sharp and head because of my father. Yeah, man, mentioned all these places before we get out of here. Let's

start here. A tour that happened this year. Yeah soon, okay, Yeah, rehearsals today, ryh. Yeah, I've been hearsing for thirty thirty days straight, you know. So it's it's big. No, it's not like anything I've ever done, you know. Obviously, like the album, I want to give an experience, so that's a matter of man. It's fun. Man. This whole journey has been like and a refreshing one man, because music can just gets so like like I don't say boring,

but it's like it's just like repetitive, you know. So like this experience and these music videos and that it's his rehearsal for these shows. It's just like this ship is different, and I feel like people, I feel like it's different to people, which make it even more exciting because people were like excited and like, so this, oh, this is you know, this is different and that's fun because then people don't know what they expect next. Like I feel like, honestly, next I could do whatever I want.

Like it's no no ceiling, No one has a clue what I'm gonna do that. Yeah, I was gonna ask you, like you have like a rap, rapidly rap album to tuck that next day, I'm doing that. I guy, I don't know what I'm doing that. Yeah, I don't know. I I don't know. I don't I don't even know. I got I know, I got some rap songs that people really want for me, and I'm gonna drop solo

throughout the year. But I feel like from now and now, every project out Dad's I do has to be He's super big, has to have the care you put and just be like and just be like. It didn't have necessarily be rock. It could be rapid to be anything, but it has to have the same care and like, just like energy that I put into that project. No, no corners, cut, no downloading beats out of the email,

everything hands on. Everything to feel crafted to a moment you know, absolutely no, no, but no. But let's talk about pitch for right. First off, they are so weird and they category categorized. Let's start. He has a rap album, you know, and then in the opening paragraph they talked about me working with white people like that. I don't get what that what that means? What do that mean? Like,

what's the point in saying that? You know what I'm saying, Like they're just weird and uh, the writer is he has a really bad haircut, and and it just doesn't really make any sense, you know, and like and and honestly, they rate a lot of people weird, you know them niggas is weird. It's fun and uh, they would never stop me on the street. Yeah, but that's how it is. Hate people were head online, then stop nobody on the street.

People hate behind computers, they're relevant to don't there. It's as significant to E rating system and that whole platform, so I don't even pay attention. You know what thing I hate and I don't know what we're wrapping up, but I hate numbers just rule everything. First week numbers, Pitchfork rating numbers, like who I hate saying who cares? Because I still care? Right, but like it's just it's just honest, But like, fuck, why the numbers consume everything?

Like numbers make people even not listen to a project. Numbers that make someone album could be beautiful and someone imany this first week like oh yeah, now that flout damn mind you're gonna tap into it? Like, and how do you as a human? Like a week is even enough? Maybe with the music people might now, but like my album is a week isn't even enough time to confirm it? Yeah, you got to really sit with you know. That's why I never understood people doing reviews the same day, Like

how do you review this album? And I was one listen your review and your rating. You know, I just try not take too serious, but I won't sit like I'll read I've seen every review in an interview. If I haven't seen it, you just have no kind of album I've seen. I've gen't read everyone's ideas and depends, and I respect them, and I've even reached out to a lot of people telling like, man, like, maybe it wasn't for you, but I appreciate this, you know, but I hate I just hate numbers. But I wish there

was a depth to numbers. Then there'll never be a depth numbers because numbers don't lie, you know, and that's just true. Then how do you just success with it? For the project? It feels successful? It's interesting, right, that's an interesting take because it's like, I don't know, man, I look at this album like I like, I talked to all my friends who are alternative artists and rock artists and anyways say, like, man, the world it doesn't

It's nothing comes as fast. And the first week Numbers is not even thinking I'll turnating space because they have to work vas every week. They have to they grow, they have to work an album. You know, they don't they don't do a huge freak sweet down versation. You know, it's like they work projects, but their shows or ten thousand and fifteen thousand people, twenty thousand people, you know what I'm saying, because it's like it's a different type

of music. Man sticks and it lives with people in and then people absorb it, you know what I'm saying. So it's interesting. I don't know, but I definitely feel successful from this album and I am grateful and I feel like people are like shocked by it and so fine. It's gonna be backhanded compliments. It's crazy people like man like man, yo, oh shit, man, that ship was dukie, but this ship, I'm like, Oh, how to get this

shit on you? I get the craziest like are you sure it's the same guy that made And it's like Minnesota is still good? I got my When you're going to it, I gotta see part of me live. That's real. Yeah, that's real. That's I think when you did the little both free with even the split, the first part, when you did that video and they came out, I was like I watched that thing. I was like, Oh, he's

really here, Like he's not. He's like, he's here for real whatever where it means you know what I mean, Like because we've seen Come and Go that's a fact. Whatever Freshman cover whatever, it's like, But something about your energy on that split joint in that video. I was like, oh, yeah, do you see it for real? To think about the energy when he performed coughin I Forget the festival, that clip goes on, Yeah, what's up with that? With that?

Bug you out when that became like a viral sensation, But it was no because that's how the show is. The fact that I never had a show that wasn't like that, so yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I mean that was probably like one of the second or third times that did the box, but like the energy and that show, that's how it is every time. So it was just funny because like people tripped out over it, but it

was like that that's my show, you know. Um, It's just it's just funny because it shows you how people say the world is so small, but it's so big because it's even thousand, thousand, hundred thousands of people maybe millions screening for you, they're still so many more who don't know shit about that's what's going on, you know, Like, and that's pool how people react to bad money numbers and that toury just there, and how people like what the fuck it's like you got so many people who

don't even know one thing about bad money and he's pulling in the biggest touring numbers of all time, you know. So it's just it all shows you, like, man, you could live a life and do something now and the world and not even know you know, so much in the world room on that we don't know about it at this moment, you know, like I don't know I'm

getting to do. But yeah, man, if the world is big, you know, and and it just it always it always comfort me and made me understand that there is a place for everyone, you know, like I don't have to make the music that the people who watch this listen to.

I don't have to make music. I like, it's music for everyone, you know, and there's a there and that should always tell up and coming artists, like there's always if you do it the right way and true to yourself, there is there will always be a fan for you, yeah, because so many people. Music just can stretch so many years, right, Yeah, So don't ever worry about trying to please that one person who didn't like it, because there's always going to be two or maybe three would do and appreciate chick

there being you. But do you think it is almost like because again. You came in again. Like you said, it's almost like you was one of the most criticized. No, I was not one of the I was the Yeah, most, No one would no one could depend like that was the that was the most criticized for no reason. Yeah, it's not like I was on the internet saying fuck certain things that being goofy or doing any kind of weird ship on Instagram. It was just it. I just took the hate, you know, it was just cuss. But

but overcame it. Oh absolutely, well. I mean I think I don't know, you know, it still rather near. We don't know yet, but it was like we're getting somewhere. Yeah, I don't know, we have to see. I might have to test it during another summer jam. My first one job was Oh my god, that was the most That wasn't one the scariest mom as ever. It wasn't terminating Oh New York. Yeah. That crowd it was like they was staying at It was tough. Yeah yeah, yeah, we

probably never do that a candidate. We're gonna find a ways was success man, because we go chase, change up the game and oh yeah man, I mean we're just gonna keep living you know, and keep doing what every inspires us. That's how I live. I'm knowing what ever inspires me, I don't I don't know. If it's rap, you know, I don't know. If it's another rock album, I don't know. I might find dance music. I don't know. I don't know whatever inspires me. Next, you no whise

music still such a passion. You love fashion, you love clothes and stuff like that, But why do you think music is still such a fashion. But it's just just to be honest, it's all I do. Club Wow, I like, Yeah, I like. I like girls, clothes and music and movies, my daughter and my mother. You know what I'm saying. My friends, you know, that's all. That's all I do.

Those things, that's all I do. And know what I'm saying, That's all I care about for real, for real, My friends, my family, these beautiful women walking on plane Earth and the ship that go in your ear, you know what I'm saying. Music, sonics, that's all I care about. And visuals. I love to watch it. I like to read, like not read, but like I want to get into reading. But I'm not a big reader. But I liked to like just see art, you know, and just making interpretation

of what that is. And I love to have real conversations for people where I love to know more about people and what people think and what they're going through and what they're dealing with and what makes them happier or or not, because it's just just so many, so many people are so different. That's so crazy as it artists, you travel and you meet millions of people and just women and man and all kinds of people, and everyone

is so different, everyone going through that. But then we all have certain things in common, absolutely, like all of us, you know, like we all have common like life, you know, whether it's people didn't even have this conversation till this point in our lives, right, all of us. I forgive it, you know what I'm saying. And it's crazy, you know. You meet people at the top, man, you meet people down below, and we all still have the same problems, you know. So I don't know. I'm just living, man,

just and music is my life. So it's it's gonna always inspire me and until it doesn't, you know, but I don't see that being anytime soon. But it's just all I do. It's like my passion and fun. Money is like I genuinely don't do anything else, you know, and like if I did, if we took away music that came my vocal cords, like went bad Outfit, I'd have nothing to do with play video game. You know what I'm saying in text, I'd just be texting bitches because I'm but like he's trying to settle down to

be that forever. That's not easy. I did not in this industry. I see you, you've settled, You've all the way down the respect that you got a daughter like yourself, Okay, hasn't settled down even gonna go. It's really one daughter, you know. Wife. We'll start here here, we'll stop here, stop me. Let's start here from a little Yatti man and thank you, brother, thank you for inviting us. Yes, sir,

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