Rap Radar: Larry June

rapper right now. And I think this new project is just another reason why Man spaceships on the Blade. I saw you tweeted back in March that this new solo album would be my best Why were you so confident early on? Because I took a little more. I was taking my time on on more things on this tape, and um, taking my time with the production and being a part of the production, and and um, I look at it as like, you know, like playing sports a little bit, you practicing every day. I did get a

little better. I listened to a lot of my music and there's certain things I want to change a lot of my stuff and I feel like on this one, UM put more time into that. So I was I was confident that it was like my best project. You know what I'm saying. That's the most songs you've ever delivered like on the project, Like it feels like an album, like a full tracks cup to eighteen tracks to two skits. So um, yep, yep. What exactly our spaceships on the Blade?

What's the meeting behind that? Man? You know? Um if you know, you know, but the Blade is where it goes down, and um, I parked the spaceships on there. Ya got you? So of course this album wouldn't be a lowry junior album without my man, uncle hern Yeah, why do you almost? Why do you include him almost every project that you do? Uncle Herm is a big inspiration to me man growing up, and um, you know he was one of the the pioneers independent rap game and uh you know he was with master peing them

back in there. That's my uncle's really really family. It's not it's not actually my uncle, but it's like, you know, he family. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, it's my blood family. But I called him uncle Horny. Now he called me uncle Nobody's uncle because you know that's you know Herman's actually my big because he inspired me a lot. He was, you know, my father, you know everybody, they allays together back in the days, and I grew up

watching them. And I always loved this intros on this tape back in the days, and I always wanted to get one. So when I got when, I was like, you know, man, come speak, come speak on my ship, real quick man. And it wasn't crazy, It just didn't number. It was very organic. You know what I'm saying. Right, He's like independent hip hop successes. It is in your DNA or something like. And I was in the I was I was selling CDs at the trunk when I

was six years old. Seven years old. My pops, he had an independent label back coming out of San Francisco Hunter's Point called the Royal. Because he was give me the c ds he had to drop me off. I used to sell them, bring him to the rat sputants and ducon signment. I was a kid, so I kind of it was just came down natural to me. And then I when I when I had my chance, and I did the same ship I was doing meetups and

popping the trunk, selling albums out the trunk. I pull up in the priest pop the trunk and we got merchand Orange Juice c ds and we were running up a bottle. Son to me, yes, lord, you know what I'm saying. We were doing numbers. We we go pop the trunk for thirty minutes and make you know, sending a quick little tempol easy. You know what I'm saying.

You know that in the independent ground that it does numbers, and and you know I got I learned a lot from from them, so you know, I keep it pushing it. You started fifteen yourself rapping right for real. I dropped my first, my first type and I was fifteen, just this when I was in a t L around um. You know, I spent a lot of time at a t F from five years old to fifteen, so I was kind of like Southern influence at the time. Him and I dropped my first mix tape off Industry Beast,

and I took them to my my high school. I was promoting them and doing the same hand and hand ship and then I over time, I developed my my own sound as or orders. You know, took a little time. I've been one thing my music. Man, you want to be great, you go, you go, go through trial and area you go. But my my whole process is to the world you can see everything and never warding because you can not when you go to your catog you

can kind of in your mind gets here the improvement. Man. Yeah, I mean I don't listen to too much of my old ship, you know what I'm saying. But the people see it and I think they appreciate it. See what I don't know, it's not being deeper fans is beat out? Is like it seems like I didn't know. Good job

Larry Numbers. All this is drawing from like outside previous projects, Like how does that ling go and all that ship like become so sustaining that like you feel like you want to say that to you all the time, Like how did that become such a force? The lingo just the wordplayer you on a daily basis. And I didn't really know what the name of the project, so I said, fuck it, no, mother Numbers are you know? Good job Larry. You know what I'm saying. They one good job Larry.

You know. I had one of my sands with soccer to me, I said, fuck it soccer to me, you know what I mean, And we just kept it rocking like cut off stockings. Man. That's why one of my favorite songs on the project in my pockets, like second verse especially do the yeah that's I use that stally all the time too. You know. I just kind of take without what I do and when I talk about it, and I just put it on the tracks and just

try to keep it under been senting me. So if you some people might love it, some people might hate it, but I don't. I don't really ain't triggering it your Frisco Nickel with a different appeal, Like what is it about being from San Francisco that's different from the rest of the world, man, Frisco is it's a play a crazy place to make it out of man, you know, you know, um, they only showed a the beautiful things

about San Francisco. Now we come from Hunter's Point, man, you know, and it gets real, it real serious, man, you know what I'm saying. And I say, I got a different appeal because you know, coming from where I come from, you know, it's all you know, Nigga is stugging, you know, and you know it's it gets you know, people promoting to you know, a lot of the volts.

You know, that's that's that's what we kind of we came up around that I didn't know too much about, like the other areas of San Francisco, like going to the pier, like you know, biking across the Golden Gate Bridge and ship and once I started really exploring the city, I was like, man, that's a really a beautiful place. You know what I'm I wasn't encouraging my friends actually did make she go let's go bite the Golden Gate bridges,

saying do a thing. I'm saying, do something different, and um, it just kind of became a part of my lifestyle. But I was still doing numbers and sucking around, so I was highly respected at the same time. You know what I'm saying, You know, it's just it just is what it is. You know me. You just know I've been rocking like that. I feel like I've known you since listening to two thousand and eighteen two thousand Team. You always said you were him and you have a

song like that. What does that mean? When you say you're him? Sometimes you gotta you gotta let him know got you that guy. The guys saying and um and and that kind of go back to the to the good job Larry ship. Like you know, it was a point of my time and then my career are just life in general where it was nobody telling me good job. So I had to, you know, I got on there. I told myself good job. And I'm I'm a firm believer that what you put out there, you go, you

go receive. So if I'm telling everybody good job, I'm doing good job, Larry. When you look at me, you go be like, good job, Larry. That's that's what you get. Though. I put it to the universe. Now, the whole world telling me good job. Yeah, shows and everything, and you're offering game to man, a lot of game Private vl A first song again, you're telling you can't call yourself a man if you can't keep your composure, because you know what I mean, that's that's part of being a man.

You gotta be able to hold Joe, hold your owner in any situation you got. You can't. You can't be spassing out, getting emotional and doing things out of emotions and calling yourself a man, you know what I mean. So you know. I mean, anybody can lose the composure of something crative to happen. Obviously you know you you lost show him kid or something. You know I'm talking about like life ship and like even when it comes to your your woman, like you do something out of pocket,

you get the slapping on it. You ain't you you're doing some extra ship. Now you know what I mean? You can't. You ain't You're not really really man, you can't you You you two emotional, which is nothing wrong with emotionals, but it takes you, know, it takes a real man to keep your composure in them situations sence. So that I just I felt like I needed to say that on that in the beginning of that song,

So I just said it real quick. Even listening to your music, you know, throughout your throughout your catalog, you have this like ethics and ethos, right, and you talk about your father a lot um talk about the Big Jew, talk about how he's inspired this like organic style and influence. I looked up to my dad, you know what I'm saying a lot you know what I'm saying, growing up, and it was it was inspiring seeing them pull up

in the five point those and pro folk tools. You know what I'm saying, nice chain, you know Pops, you know what I'm saying. He was legendary in the game.

You know what I'm saying. I don't want to get too deeper to to to what he was into, but it was inspiring seeing it, especially coming from like you know what we didn't We didn't have much like we was in a we was in the projects and and watching my Pops come through on a bite Toyota supers coming through the black he was all he was always different, like you know what I'm saying from James Bond Ship.

You know what I'm saying, the only nigg in the hood that was pulling up like that, and I, um, it was, you know, just kind of inspired everything that I was that I was doing. So you know what I mean. It's you know, people people call me a little June little you know, we got the same name and ship, you know what I mean. So that's that's pretty much there was at the five point and I got the McClaren. When I was a kid, that was my favorite car. He had it, and I was going

to go out and just look at it. Read the dough boy dream what I'm saying, and uh, I said, I'm gonna get that car. And I found one. Me to look at this motherfucking car. They only made twelve hunted of him and I found one right down the street, grabbed, got them made. I finally got the You know what I'm saying, he played a b and um, I think of my lifestyle that he dabbled it rap two right, Like he puts you onto a lot of early. He didn't wrap. He just he played the behind the scenes thing.

So he he was doing work with like RBO Posse and coun of days and he did compilation tapes and ship. You mentioned the five point oh doing with currency. With that, y'alling said, talking about cast is cupcaking. What's what's cupcaking? Cupcaking is when you're sitting in the house cupcaking with your girlfriend. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, it's nothing wrong with cupcakes. It's not wrong with cupcaking, but you should definitely get that brier first cupcake. All the time

I'm saying that I make sure my priorities together. You know what I'm saying. That was cupcaking. We was in coach to Mason running it up numbers absolutely talking about running up man like on Breakfast and Monica, produced by a good friend Alchemists. You read reference to one of my favorite songs, million not enough, Like why is a million not enough? Larry? Because I live in San Francisco.

You know my my two bear room costs two point five, you know what I'm saying, And it's not enoughing and a million dollars not the same as it was in the nineties. The price of everything that's went up, so like, you know, a million dollars not the same as when when we was coming up and so we got a million dollars, were rich as hill, no gases them there ten dollars. The price of gold has went up, car as one up, so like you can get one ferrari

for a million dollars. So you know, it's just not enough. So I just, you know, I was preaching, you know, because a lot of people coming from where I come from, and they feel like a hundred thousand, we up a million dollars dollar get a million dollar deal. That's kind of what I was referring to. Everybody, I gotta go, I gotta need a million. No, that's not enough, It's not enough. Grand ship. But the AMG made me feel

so poor. Suns like same less skill, right, But I also what it is also, you live your home so you don't have to pay these big studio bills that you like that you're so meticulous that you only record three hours a day first thing in the morning in your kitchen. Yeah. Yeah, because I'm a full time father, so I'm make sure my son get the school. So my program was I would get up early before he would.

He get up around like five in the morning, and I record to like seven eight, you know what I'm saying, and I take them to school. I might want to rob my biker son or do something to keep me inspired to do more, and uh, I just shut it off. But I just do it every day and I put the studio up so I don't I don't even now. I gotta now. I got a separate place to record them. For a long time, I didn't I had. I just had it was working what I had. You know what

I'm saying. I didn't want to sit in the studio and feel pressure to pay a hundred dollars an hour to record and not going to do it on the laptop. You know what I'm saying, so I just figured it out and not and I kept my my my overhead low. I think that's a big thing when it kind of independent or just life in general, you want to keep your overhead low as possible. It's cool with outsourcing certain things when it kind of like owning brands and you know,

giving percentages. You know, like my clothing brand, I give a percentage. I give a percentage to a lot of my stuff because it gives me time to to live my life in and do other things to keep me inspired to do more stuff. Yeah, I just was recording my ship in the crib and kitchen. I just took it up already. Know you know, you said be quiet and I knocked this version noise. We gotta you know, they gotta keep it going, and uh, it worked out. But you're one of the most prolific artists in the game,

and during the pandemic you dropped six projects. Man, I work, I work good under pressure. But why do you feel the need to release so much music because most of artists like drop a song, drop a mixtape and just kind of like go ghosts um. I feel like the story wasn't over, it was more I had to tell the people and talk about So I just kept recording and not. I didn't really have an expectation or a real serious playing behind it. I just wanted to get

the music out it. It was something I love to do, and I just putting it out. I wasn't really tripping off the number. I didn't care about what blog was going posted. I just wanted to just make the music and and put it out and and see what happened. You know what I'm saying. I didn't. I didn't perfectly say, you know, I'm gonna do ten albums this year, I'm trying to be to drop the most albums in the year. No, I just really had more to say. You know what

I was saying, I was, And also I wasn't. I wasn't the deal with Warner Brothers for a couple of years. Had did a couple of EPs and was seen, and um, I felt like I didn't have the I couldn't release what I wanted to release. So it was a lot of stuff held in where it was like I had a drop this kind of not that they were telling me how to what kind of music to make, But I wasn't making no money off of it. So you're

not really making no money off your crab. It's kind of like, why am I sitting here making all this music for for my time? That's thing I can eat. So when I got out of my deal, I said, I'm gonna just go crazy and run it up independently. And I took the knowledge that I got from that and UM and I want Yeah. But Quinn Coma was that that's my that was my right hand man, RP.

Quinn coming. He helped me um get that deal and it was good for me though honestly at the time because I was I was actually in the streets heavy and I needed I needed to be around a different environment and learn more about the business side of it. So for me it was like I'm I didn't take no eils man. It was like college for me, you know what I mean. I got out the game telling about digital marketing and showed me about how to like

the streaming outside of it, the numbers. Because I started becoming friends with a lot of people up there, to the point I didn't even flu like a wrapper. I'm just like hanging with drink and they need people that's working at the label. So I learned so much when I got out. When I got out the deal, I just put it into what I was doing. And that was one of like ten projects or something. Right, you just kept flooding the market. Um oh yeah after that, Yeah,

I just started flooding. But it wasn't I wasn't trying to prove nothing. I just like like recording the ship, I rether you got tweet thousands of dollar advance and blew it in one day. What spry rims? I didn't even really. I didn't really need the dub at the time. I just I wanted the rocket got them, had already had the beamer. I was collecting BMWs at the time. I just I just bought some, you know some a little three piece okay, sounds like custom little rims on

that thing, a little twenty ball. I wasn't tripping off that. It was more like, man, you're going to put me on or what? Right? You know what? A little twenty piece you know what I'm saying? Yeah? Man, And you know, nothing happened. I just going. I got my little two dollar checks in the mill. But during the pandemic is when I kind of got hip to you, you know, from keep going specifically being Harry Fraud and you know obviously you just much Letter Fraud. Absolutely, you work well

with others man. And I've heard that you and Alchemists have a project. Oh yeah, man, Alchemist project crazy, it's crazy. We're done with that one too. This project was in the process of coming out. Somebody just focused on putting this out, but we put we put a track off the album on this one Alchemists. Yeah, what about the Segway I'm looking forward to that, man? What about this longer waited one with Currency? Man? Yoh see, man, that's man like. Like Currency said, we gotta just get together

and shoot the visuals. And uh, you know, Currency loved you know, he loved his space. He got all the cards he wanted. You know, Karency lived a great life. I have to literally go to him to shoot the videos. Like you knows. I gotta fly out there, you know, and m he you know, he Currency, you know, he made himself for a real boss. He just sit back and wash his cards and ship, you know what I mean. And we're gonna get to him. And that's my broken

nothing but love and respect for Currency. Currency. Actually um called me one day. He was like, Larry, I love your trap shit, but you gotta do that smooth ship. Yeah. I got to clean the kitchen tee this ship, and I was like, man, you know you kind of around actually like doing that the smooth ship better. And and

every since then I was I was rocking. He actually gave me a lot of advice a lot of ship that I was doing because I just be like, man, it was it was point point of time where I was kind of discouraged a little bit on on like the music, like damn my doing this ship right here, like, man, don't trip, just keep keep rocking it. You don't have

everything you want off this ship. Because I was thinking like that, I make time to sit joint to like you, like you guys say that the joints for the ladies like you go there with ye yep, I'm real in to R and B music. I love R and B music and the old you know, slum village ship and you know music sold child. I'm a fan, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, I just you know, getting

there and start you know, doing my little thing. Also, I think the reason why your music is so endearing is that you're not afraid to talk about the losses and the loads, you know, like organic tears. And one of my favorite joints is consistent. And you talk about how a loss was hell of different at that time. Can you take me back to that time? Oh, consistent? Yeah, man, it was it was that song. Man, that man, that was a crazy time in my life. It's where it's

where I had just had my son. He was, you know, like a couple of weeks old and I'm a rug I had to leave for a second. He stayed with his mother for for you know, for a year. So and I was like, damn, I gotta step my game up, man, Like what the funk I'm gonna do? So, you know, I started, you know, taking the organic chances. And um, I was working my game, busting my little moves, and I was I was staying. I was sleeping in a back up a smoke shop. My homie on and he

was let me lay low over there. This is an Arizona. This is an Arizona. This is back in the in the days, and it was it was crazy. And I said, the losses that song, it was just different because at that time, like when you was anything he was doing at that time. When it comes to like I don't like to really talk about like that kind of ship on camera and all that ship. But you know, like the laws was different back then, so you get you

get caught with certain things. It was way more serious, you know, like weed and all that kind of ship. And um, we were you know, we're just taking chances. Man. I'm just I'm thankful for all that, for all that ship though. It made me who I am. And ship and now we're doing numbers tracking its green juice and ship. Was it time in Vegas? Something that happened in Vegas?

I had I had a spot in Vegas at the Meridian, okay, if you know, you know, if you know, I'm ready, you know, traffic pose and they got ransacked or got rady' something like, yeah you know that show random my spot in Vegas. Man, they had raided my little crib in Vegas and I had to fly back, so I wasn't there though. Me and my little one had just left actually and you know, negative energy ship, you know, but

we're just trying to stay. But even when you were talking about like those moments of like having doubt, like you said, it was like eight months at one point that you had to move back to the Bay to the after like leaving Los Angeles or l A, you had to move back to the Bay for like eight months. Oh no, I came to l A. I came to l A and twenty seventeen, and that's when I was like, you know, I wanted to really change my whole life. So I went cold turkey on anything that was like negative.

It was tough, but I learned the light. And then um, I went back to the Bay and now I just looked at my That's when I started dropping on the table. It's not kind of got on my deal and I checked my my accounts and not I was doing numbers. I never looked at the numbers. I was like, damns a honey Man's great and they just kept coming. I guess I just created an income. Let's make some investments and ship. But yeah, just I went out. I came to l A for like eight months, nine months, and

I learned a lot being out here. I was in the house most of the time, just recording and just fucking with Quinn and and my my close friend at the time. And I went back to the Bay and not for some reason, my ship was just upright. I was just hidden yeah, my whole life changes. And then I've been smooth. I ain't did I'm I'm a real square. I'm really not. I'm proud. I'm proud to say that breakthrough song. What the first like, what do you think it was that it hit that you started to get

those results? What it was was like he I was dropping those projects, you know how I was saying, like I just I was just doing it because I felt like I had more to say and I just wanted to release the music, you know what I mean. And I was getting a hundred percent of it. But I didn't really realize. I didn't really realize how much money you can make. And then I checked my ship and it was you know, it was him right, this is the time that started form was TFM always ready in

the plans? No, TFM been weak weak? Me and my boy Sean Kelly. We started that in two thousand nine. Ye yep, TFM the free minded. I just kept it pushing. I kept that. I kept that going for a while, even when nobody was pushing. I just kept pushing, the pushing the brand and um, so it's a label, it's a crue. I got the Paper Corporation corporation that road flows first artists. Yep, I didn't. I didn't do no

paperwork on my room. I didn't know paperwork with nobody because I feel like I wanted to make sure she was established first. I can really help people. So what I deal with, what I do with my my little brother, that's my real brother. So instead of saying I'm as sign y'alls, I'm gonna just show you how to make some money. Then if I could do something more, I'm gonna. You know, I don't mind helping people, you know, and I know it's it's business and ship. You know that,

you know what I mean. But I want to see my people in position to win. I just showed him how to do it, so he he independent and he made he make his own way. And now you can make four or five thousand of months streaming in and pay for his bills. He don't work no more. And that's enough for me, just seeing him be able to do that, Like I didn't need to take a percentage of that, like maybe later down the line, you know, I started getting these platinum plants and I gotta play.

Here go seven hundred thousand and sending for you. Let's just do a little play. But you know, I'm just happy to see see them doing all my homies. They all doing well off off just what I building. It is love is lovely, but I love just seeing it keep me inspired. Man. I also see like you don't mind sharing game. Like I think I saw something with you and Wallow when he was like kind of encouraging

like artists out here that doing it thing. It's like, you know, let's say you have to work a real job, you still got to take that time to like pursue your dream like they take advance. He said, you said at least thirty minutes of your day. Yeah, that's that's the best. The bare minimum, you know what I'm saying, Like you want to put time into you if if you really want to do it, if you're passionate about you want to put time into your craft and and what you what you're doing, and you gotta do it

every day every day. But you gotta also build it up to you gotta that thirty minutes gotta turn into an hour. Thirty minutes is the bare minimum, you know what they want to be in music because people had like three kids and working two jobs, so they don't have that time. So like you know, like me me personally, I gave up everything. I took the chance I didn't want. I never had a job. But I know, I know people who do, you know what I mean, and not

respect people who do too. You know what I'm saying. And that's why I say, you passionate about it, you gotta put some time into it. If not, you're gonna be sitting there just saying what you should have did later, you know what I mean. And and that's a big thing with me. Like every day I'm make sure I put time into what I'm doing it and I'm open to more things now, even like doing interviews. I didn't. I never want to do interviews. I never want the

tour I never wanted. I never want to do nothing, none of this ship. I just wanted to. But I realized that, man, this is this is, this is the game we're playing, and then we go play. We might as well play and go all the way in. Definitely going all the way in a manute. A lot of your music focuses on you know, motivational things and uh, financial literacy. Like I remember on Mr. Midnight you said like being riches and oh don't let me make sure

I get it right. So being rich ain't always about wealth, right, So what is your opinion rich? What does that look like to you? It's not always about wealth, So it's not like always the money aspect of it. It's more like being happy, happy with yourself. You can have all the money in the world. If you're not happy, then you just got some money. You know what I'm saying? Like you feel me? That's that ship is important. Like

money can buy everything. I can buy the house and ship, but like you can't like make it like an actually home. You know what I mean? Like you know what I mean. It's you know, it's not always about well treating your people, writing and when you when you lead this earth? And what did you lead back? What kind of person was you? What kind of character did you have? Was you solid? Did you help people over? Did you rob motherfucker's did you?

You know? That's you know, it ain't always about the money. You need the money. It ain't everything and everything, but I need it, I need both. Where does that? Where does that come from? These themes of financial literacy and finance? Just like why is that so important to you? Like where you was your parents. That's still that in you. My paps put me on like rich Dad, poor Dad and all them, you know, like all them, all these books.

So so I was I was like I was reading a lot of that stuff when I was in high school. We're not actually reading and I don't. I don't really read that many books. I'm not like a book read your Life that I read like one book in my life. It was the Tucky Williams book. I was very interested in prison for some reason. When I was like in third grade, I read the whole book. But that wasn't a lot of audio books I can read obviously, I just don't have the patience to sit that. I'll be

trying to do hell of other ship. So when I'm cleaning my career, but I tossed the audio book on and I'm catching key things and and you know, it just registered in my mind without me even knowing, and it kind of like end up being a part of my lifestyle. And it came out in what I talked about my music pretty much. And ship, I think that's

what it is. And just you know, I just like I like nice ship and and um, you know ship, it's all about numbers man, right, we talk about the music and I you mention real estate a lot, like compowing yourself, Like, was that the first thing that really clicked for you, Like to take this money and start using the real estate and really just start building things. I do have real estate. I got a couple of things, but that was more of me getting people if ice

on other things that can they could have purchased. And ship, like I like to sell things, so I like to invest into myself a lot. Definitely, real estate was definitely one of the one of my first things I got when I started getting like real money and ship. You know what I'm saying. But I feel like when you're coming up investing into yourself, it's worth more than real estate. That's my opinion, you know what I'm saying. Because you can create something and make money forever for your family

and a house, you know, Like that's cool. I don't get me wrong. Like, but when you when you create a legacy and and and um investing into yourself and then what you're trying to do, it's you know, you could pass it down. Like I said, I can give my brother the game. You can make money forever. Two I can and unless I want to go buy thirty houses and the manage them and do all that ship. You know, you know, it's different strokes for different folks, man,

you know what I mean. But real estate is it's big though. But the game being so digital, now when you say that's like what get a laptop and the mic and the right equipment, right, I mean that's how you started. You get that. But you also have to get to a certain point. So I didn't spend a lot of money on myself at first coming up in the game, you know what I mean? Coming up was easy.

Getting people know who I was was easy. But then you get to a point where you gotta you gotta obtain that and you gotta get to a different level. So then I just started investing hundreds of thousand dollars to myself into now like you know what I'm saying. You get that, you get the attention to people, and then from there you gotta so okay, now what we know you bro like you did hell the tapes and ship, Now what you can do? So are we going we go invest some money into the craft, we go spend

more money on video. We're gonna pay for the market, and we're gonna do other things, but like coming up, get a laptop, microphone. It's all about the Internet so easy. It's for other people. I mean, it's it's all about how you want your career to go. You can do the same ship and and and get the same results, and it could be great. You can be able to take care of your family, you know what I mean, build generational wealth still. But for me, I wanted to.

I wanted the UM. I like arting brands and ship so you know what I mean. Like I got like my my Boba T shirts, I got my my my clothing brand, I got all kind of shiedabbled in the real estate. I got a supplement, vitamins on the way, all kind of you know, we're trying to just keep it pushing, man and man, um. You gotta just invest in yourself. I like what you said. Sometimes you got sacrifice sleep for the bag we got to And that go back to me waking up at five in the

morning to record that song. I pretty probably was five in the morning when I said, and it was actually hell of sleepy. You know, sometimes you have sacrificed sleep for that bag, and you do. You gotta put that work in. But I start, I would have laptop of your independent artists a microphone and um utilize the internet the end of the end. And it's powerful, man, but do it in a cool way. What can you bring different to the game? I don't eat oranges every day.

Being under honest with you, it's all marketing. You gotta know how to you gotta was something different. That's go, that's go capture the people and and and separate you from others because there's so many people doing this music ship. So when you come in again, you got like, okay, you rap, Cool, you're a great rapper? Like cool? What else you got first? Like? What else can you? You know what I mean? So that's my big thing. Getting the equipment to do it yourself, save a little money,

and it brings something different to the game. And it's that simple everybody in competition, which all you gotta do is create, create some ship. It seems like you always had a plan and like I always want to know what's the significance behind like a song like I told you in old seven? Like what did you tell people in old seven? I tell people what I will go

do now? Because I always knew I'll go do this even even when I was going through my little ship and I was trapping and sucking around, I recorded types and I had all the time my portable studio with me, and I always knew like this my backup plan, and this and my backup plan go eventually be my my main source of income. And everybody around me believed it too, because I was because I believed it so much, you know what I mean? And I knew it was times where I was like, man, fund this rap ship. I

wanted to just do real estate. My mom does real estate. T she one of the biggest real estate Asian til much loving my mom, like she she worked hard. Since you get that, like you know that she had me at fifteen. We let it homeless shell tweet all kind of shoot growing up as a kid. My mom was a young parent. If he moved me to a t L and she had to really build it from the bottom and uh and and it took until, like you know a few years ago, she got very successful at it.

So like even seeing my mom like it was inspiring her to see her remarried and happy and doing two Porsche's and take myself for the summer. Don't everything's on me, you know, what that's the spot all that kind of ship inspired too, because I didn't I didn't see that is I didn't see that from my mom when I was a kid, and you know, like because she was young, like she had me at fifteen, and so it was like she was a kid herself. So that's a beautiful thing too. And I I'm inspired by my mom too.

It's not just my dad. Like seeing her go hard and and and being able to take care of me and my my little brothers and and make everything happen. That's that's inspiring. Like that's one of the reasons why I'm so so connected with mine. When my son and make a show, he cool because you know, I've seen I've seen seen her daughter. When you dropped out of high school? What was her reaction when she's still supportive

of your decision? And I never was grade in school, so probably it wasn't really a surprise that I dropped out of high school. But why are you seem like a smart brother White? What was school? I like doing it? I'm passionate about. I didn't like being in class, and I feel like it was no point, you know what I'm saying, that's just for me you know, I don't encore other people to do that. Like, you know, I liked um, I ran across country and ship play basketball.

I like playing sports and ship with It just wasn't for me though, Like you know what, I still don't got a g D honestly, and I got I got millions, I got the properties all the ship, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, different route. I want a different round. There ain't no rules to this ship, man, but you gotta do something. You can't be sitting on your ass. I know, motherfucker's who got motherfucking all the degrees? And you know they call me and called me for

it like that. You should have went to my school. Maybe I should start, you know, but you know it's it's it's all. It's all about what you want to do. Man. I'm with everything, man, like that just wasn't my path, you know what I'm saying. But it might be somebody else. Parents In other ways, we was outside. I was around different kind of people. I was, I was inspired, but you know I wasn't around straight drug dealers and pimps.

And you know, I've seen people coming up making a hundred thousand in a week and they not got the blueprint right in my face, the orange preper, the orange prep, you know. So you know, but one thing about me, I was always nervous. I'm period. No, I didn't want to go to jail. I didn't want to like get shot, and I would like the nigga, I'm hopping out the whip helping go do some ship dropping you off right here.

But I'm gonna go, but I'm gonna vend this little corner. Yeah, my girl, she said she needs me to go run the air. And I was always always on my toes because always, you know, I grew up seeing my uncle in the fit, seeing like losing, seeing people get killed all the ship. So it kind of like tow the consequence. And one thing about me, man, I learned from other people mistakes. You know what I'm saying. I could like somebody can do something I don't got necessarily go through

that I can learn from their mistakes. Not seeing a ton of people make mistakes my whole life. So I knew certain things. And you know, I stayed low key, like niggas thought. I was a lift driver for two years and never did lick in my life. I promoted, I had the lift sticker in my core. I just wanted to be I didn't want nobody to see me because I knew. I knew, you know, stick and get real, you know what I'm saying. So I'm manuever through the game, made it happen, and um now I'm doing what I

love and I'm very thankful. And that's that's probably why I'm so thankful, because you know, doing what we love because we outdoors. Man here them's so good and maybe our first outdoor joy. Yeah, but that's beautiful. They got to hear them noises, you know what I'm saying. Good job airplane. But obviously fatherhood was a different because they've

don't appreciate it. All you said, you've been do you had to break the cycle when you had your sons to talk a little about that, Like how that also forced you to be like man, breaking the cycle serious because my nobody in my family has done anything not like not like that, Like you know what I'm saying this, you know, it's it's levels of success. But like it

was no generational wealth, it was no trust funds. Maybe there was no wheels, there was no here this is for you or even a car like here's a car for you. Like, So it was more like breaking the cycle and being able to show my my my kid that looks you know, it's different ways like to to do certain things. Anything you want to do it it's possible. And um, you know, setting him up to do, to do better than me, to be better than me to the point okay, now he has a kid, boom. Now

the cycle is slowly breaking. You know what I'm saying. So you know, I'm just trying to do my part. I feel good man, because I it's it's a blessing man like you feel good'ing able to just do what I can do and just show show, show my son and even my little brothers that like, look, man, you've seen me have nothing. You've seen me sitting in them all handing out CD people throwing my ship in my face.

You see, he's seen me going through he's seen me getting arrested, he seen me doing all the dumb ship And now with a little bit of passion and putting time into your craft, every thing can change. And I think one year everything could change. You still on your grind every day for a year, you know you have anything you want anything? Do you think Most people like that dedication, like they have the dream of wanting to do it, but they don't realize all the work and

all the sacrifice of texts, it's just consistency. You gotta be. You gotta really put that. You don't even you don't gotta even work as hard as people think. You gotta just be. You gotta just put that work in. You gotta do something. It can't be no day when you sleep all day. There can't be no day. You can't let no. You can't let nobody. If you're a female,

you can let it due stress you out. You can't have a female stress and you'll you gotta understand that you got to invest that time into your life and right now don't really matter. The futures would really matters, you know what I'm saying, So none of this ship go. Man. You could be in a bucket no gas. You're stressing out. I can't think. You can't think about the painful part of it. You gotta keep rocking and putting that work in and everything gonna change for you. You said believe

in the beauty of your dreams. Believe in the beauty of your dream And I say, from experience, I'm not saying that I'm not. Nobody gave me nothing. I didn't turn the eighteen to have millions of dollars waiting on me. No, I had to figure this ship out. Y'all. Wasn't inspired by my by my pops and my mom and ship. But they was young and they knew what they knew. Pops come from the streets. Mom so his mom so crack. Everybody's so crazy it is that all you can do

is teach me what you know. You know what I'm saying. At the time, I was inspired by it, But now you get to a point of life where it's like, now I inspire my dad, I inspired my mom. You know what I'm saying That that goes back into like breaking the cycle and even like it was a certain things that even though they probably don't believe that can

that can do, I'm doing it doing it. So now was like you gotta just you gotta just keep keep rocking, man, put that time in it and and believe in yourself. Everybody go tell your ship trash. At first, everybody gonna tell you trash or you trash. You sound like that you do this is you uh uh boring? Are keep rocking me? What do you think so special about that?

Like when I hear your ship, I'm like, oh, that's Bay Area, Like it has that foundation, like we see even like New York they're doing different styles to drill stuff like whatever, what what is it about the bear? You think that y'all you'll have a certain sound of certain culture around it, and you just stick to that um Man. You know, it's it's it's that um It's that weather Man's the water, It's that water. It's that beautiful Bay Bridge nor face close to the top. You

know what I'm saying. It's that five point been in the knas. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I mean. It's it's it's just the it's the thing that people don't see that people you know, people go to the SF, but oh we know e step the gold Gate Bridge, you know the town that you feel me and all that, but nothing wrong with it. But it's a whole different culture. I grew up seeing completely different. We go hit the black we we we

come from. I'm from Harvard Road. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm not with the politics and none of that. The beef and and all that bikes are drink juice. But I'm from Harvard Road. The biggest block in You go down that block, you hit, you hit that bottom of that hill. Anything you want, crag heroin. You're seeing fofol tools, You're seeing five point Oh, you're seeing niggles with rolex is on white teas, Frisco hatch to the bank. You know, it's like the hot boys down that hills.

Like you see the hot boys down there pulling up in the five point hit the bottom of that block, spending hitting them donut. That's what we saw. I didn't see no golden game. You know what's crazy about we the projects man? Anybody for anybody from the hood. They tell you this man, we was kid. We had an ocean view, but it was the shipyards and it was really toxic. They built the projects in a toxic place

where it was actually killing us. They don't they don't know about that ship But now was like prying real estate. They want to gentrify it and to kick everybody out the hood because they noticing that. You know it can be cleankeed up and real estate. Here the drop of Central and know what I'm saying, And that's you know, we saw that. I didn't even I didn't even realize

it was it was water there. I was. I was short what it was what I'm saying, But that's what we were into, like being Meg's bikes, you know what I'm saying. Every my grandma had a candy house. You know what I'm saying. We we the hustle. Like my grandma sold icy. You know what I'm saying, Nacho, she baked cakes and all the ship you needed, you needed something, you feel me, she can toss that out the window too. You know what I'm saying. You go up the hill

Smokey's candy House kids. You know what I'm saying. We we grew up seeing that it was a whole different, whole, different lifestyle. And you know, and that's where my sound come from. It ain't I never even knew about l a culture and none of that I never knew about. All I knew was what I was around, you know what I'm saying. And that's just what that bottom like.

People don't know that because they don't. They don't. They wasn't there, you know what I'm saying, So they can only tell you what they think that things are right and on. Like you go back to my pictures when I was five years old, you know, I come, I had young parent out. My moms was outside in pops outside. I had that ship on Jordans. Every Easter, moms had to boot some ship out. The stud goes steal me some Jordans on some sho had that ship. I stayed fresh.

You know what I'm saying. That's why I can't show the ship. I put that shot on all my shoes clean, you know what I mean. That's a little timpie. You know that's too crazy, you know what I mean. That's that's that's just how I'll be rocking, you know how. Yeah, but we grew up seeing that and and that's when that's when influence the music man and like seeing like RBL and then come up like in the game you know,

cool nut, you know what I mean. Even even to the bullies for fully Messy Marv Juicy, I respect said, yeah, that's what we came up on. Be legit E forty too short. You know what I'm saying, Like it's a whole different culture that people really didn't really know about, and that was that mob music. But always seemed like

that that culture could also sustain on its own. That you can make the money because your community mess with each other, and it's like you don't have to try to reach for these other markets, like if you trut to your true, to your sound. We started this independent of the trunk ship true. You know what I'm saying. We we are. I'm saying my ogs popping the trunk selling a hunted thousand, not the trunk independent community in their community going outside putting up posters. They so weak, weak,

you know. That's why I dropped the type out the trunk. And that's what I knew, you know what I'm saying. And um men, the Bay Area, you man, you you just had to be there. Man. Like I look back in my life, it's like a movie, just really like remembering the certain things. And until this day, I've seen so much ship that I got unlimited repsed. Yeah, and then like even like standing in tune to was still going on and that much blood in my city. Man, you know, I feel like it took me to your world.

On Another Day, Part two, which is like one of my favorites on the project. It's like four years since it first appeared on Soccer to Me Part two. Why do you feel like there was a need for a sequel? Because it was it was still more hard to say they you know about me parking a runtom in the garage and finding a touch spot. They didn't I didn't

get to tell them all that, you know what I'm saying. So, you know, I feel like on this project, I wanted to reach every every angle and you know, just give them, give them all of me, from my you know, like my relationship experiences, to like my street experience, to my I'm feeling good, I'm mobb be and pulling out the five point though, to me going to London and jumping in the Lamborghini. And I just wanted to bring them

to my world, you know what I mean. So I didn't part twos the certain things because you know a lot of them songs wasn't finished. To me, I just couldn't. I didn't want to have no five minute songs. Make music for niggers that live like man and I'm living good baby. You know, I'm waking up in the morning, I'm doing my push ups, drinking my green juices, you know what I mean, um, picking out with shoes, I'm a rock rapping you know, hitting the grocery store. You know,

I was taking my phone calls. You made health and well you made it cool lifestyle, you know. I mean it's like a lifestyle. You know. Back in the day, niggas used to drink forty ounces and now we're drinking kaleen spinach and chills spinach. You think I did that? I think so, you know, you know, don't you help? That? Probably help? I don't go. So I just did everything.

But I feel like for the rap community maybe maybe so, you know what I say, because I learned from, you know, seeing other people do it, like, you know, like going to the little smoothie shops, you know, with the whole fools. And I've seen a seven dollars lemonade and I bought it just because it was seven. Because of seven dollars, hold on, I could buy this is twelve dollars. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You gotta you gotta spend a little money on that, on that juice freshly squeeze baby,

you know what I'm saying. So what's Larry June smoothly? Look like, like, what are you put in there? What's the ingredients? So we gotta get the official mattery juice s wooth you can make at home. Man. Lately, I've been working with the cheese seeds. You know, it really

good for the stomach. Breakdown of the stomach. You know, sharing propi is all the good ship not I'll work around a little green juice, a little spinach kill avocado obviously they don't know about the avocado that in there to give it that a little milk that you feel me, I might toss a little bit of um, I just toss it in my shoes. I might toss a flax seed on you there. You know what, I might just come different. I just mix it up. I've been laying

I've been standing away from the sugars too much. I don't do too much sugars right now because um, you know, for us black people and shi um you know, diabetes and um, high blood press and all that ship is is big. So I've been trying to eliminate the sugars as much as possible. I don't really do dessert that much right now. I'm starting, you know, I'm three weeks in. You know what man about? You know I funk with the cakes and ship heavy. You know what I'm saying.

I really I didn't get deserved. First I started doing my little reading. You know what, I'm laying off the sugar tone, but he put too much like um, I used to do a lot of pins and ship and then, but now I just try to keep it all green and I don't even I know it tastes a little funny, but you know it's what we need, so good. Last question I got. I know you said every time you drop a pot a project, you cop new pieces. Yeah, so what's next with your copy man ship ship for

this project? I grab up the G T three Porsche, I grab up the GT. Bentley Speed, I grab up grab a Ferrari Spider everything two that Grand National Man that's with them them my them, my favorite cards about be like if I buy Bentley or something like that, or you know, I'm gonna probably keep that for a couple of years. I don't current people to keep them cards too much too long, because they appreciate in value. On certain cards like my Ferraris, I keep my Ferraris,

they keep they keep that value. Poors keep value. It's certain things you can do when it comes to cars where you can keep your value. You can actually also make money on them when it comes to like Bentley's and Maserati's and you know them cards depreciate. So I lease those cars and I write them off on taxes. I put them under my business. It's a tax right off. Well, you might have to run that back. Then you're teaching them right there. So the cars, you buy a certain things.

You know, I love all them things, but everything is not a good investment. So I get a car like that, and then you know, and it's a it's a business card. I do music videos and I do um album covers. So I buy that car, put a put the X amount of money down page certain money and money as a least under my business, under my corporation, the free minded, and I write it all off on taxes, and I use as a business vehicle. And in two years I

sell the car. All right, If it made the car and make money, I'll buy the car out and sell the car for more. If not, I just get a car back and write it off on tax It's just the car. I gotta pay Uncle Sam anyway, why not? Why not look fresh my bills early? You gotta pay them anyway. Is that the car that's on the cover, The new one the Porsche Porsche. Yeah, that's a car cover. Okay, I might keep that one. I don't like. You know, I live in San Francisco. Man, we got it's it's

limited parking and ships. I got like, I don't want to end up having like crazy overhead on parking. It's just so I keep certain called my old schools, never getting rid of I got rid of my bins because I made money on it. I made like um, I made like equities. So you know what I'm saying, I don't have no is this material. I have no emotional attachment to it. You know, you know what it is like. I got rid of that. I got rid of um with other car. I got rid of all my BMWs.

You got that watch, bust down all that ship that had to go. I kept that watch literally two days. God, I kept out like, man, this ship shout it too hard. They don't even he don't even cost that much. Let me go ahead, get the good time. Did you ever get the Amazon stock? No, I didn't get that. You know, I might have it now. I got I got a little money in the brokerage where the money, you know, they invest the money for me, and you know the

kind of. That's like long term players. You know, you sit into account and I don't even look at it. I'm pretty sure it's probably Amazon, all the good stocks with it. Not check it here and there. He goes up and down. It's like a long term player. That's time you sitting the account. In ten years, you check it, give it to the little ones, you know. I'm not. I don't do I'm not like a stock kind of guy. Don't. I don't like day trading all that ship Like it's

too much. It's too much risk for me. I like, I'm real safe for my for my investments, financials. Gonna say. The one last thing for me is like you talked about doing well. You also said I appreciate it all. You said we should normalize seeing all people do better. Yeah, yeah, that should be normal, Like because everybody you know, like it's always like you see you see a black man pull up in a ferrarity, You're like, man, like, what he doing is he's selling drugs? Is that a rental car?

Like it should be normal, And this is a car. Everybody should have these if you want them, you know what I'm saying. So it's but somebody got to start with breaking the cycle. That's why that's why I said, you know, Um jay Z inspired me a lot because he teaches that in his music. You know, I learned a lot from from watching his moves and ship like

like that. And um and I think he when he wanted the same thing, like you know, you want to normalize certain things where it can be normal for for our community and ship, and and that's pretty much what I mean. It wasn't like no deep rocket science behind or nothing like cool, but you meant the part about it. You have to appreciate it all. I appreciate it all, like all the ship we talked about me going through my ups and downs and the good in the bed.

I just appreciate it all. Appreciate everything, man, And we appreciate you man. You know it's always love man. Good job be that good? Yes? Can we get? Can we get a good job? Rapp rate of good job rapp Rador numbers, good jobs stock it tell me there we go,

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