Yoh, it's a rap raid our podcast. My name is Beatott and Elliott. I don't know where Elliott is. Ellie's probably tied him somewhere in the Brooklyn basement, but now I think he's in the air. After a busy weekend, nowhere rolling loud in Miami. So you know, I'm potting dolo from state to state.
What can I say? It's been an interesting week. You know, Elliott doesn't turn into the social media assassin. So I had to go to the Drake show at the Barcley Center all by myself. You know, everywhere I go, people always asks where's Elliott. I'm like, hey, you know, you pissed the boy off.
Actually, I think Elliott's comments about Drake's recent interviews got him banned from coming across the border into all future shows. So I don't know what's going to happen. You know, when I went to the show, I didn't know if the Canadians were gonna adapt me or clap me. So I was definitely I have my guards up, But you know, overall, the show was dope. You know, when you go to a Drake show, you kind of forget about the amount
of hits he has right. It's like, at the risk of like kind of sound like a fanboy.
I think he could be.
On stage for at least two to three hours all by himself, just performing hit after hit, and it's like you don't even have to be a Drake fan to know the Drake songs, which I think is really commendable.
You know, like he.
Definitely takes up the entire room. And twenty one Savage, you know, he was there too, He was back, you know, j Cole filled in for him on the lntrial dates, but he definitely did his thing as well. I mean, Twentyland's hits, as underground as they are, they do sound good in a big space. I mean, I don't think everyone's familiar with the songs like how they are for Drake.
They came for Drake.
But it was still a great time, nonetheless, So shout out to those guys, you know, had a great time at the ball Play Center. You know, be sure to catch Drake at a city near you wherever he comes into town. Later on in the week, Today's guests Killer Mike, he took over Manhattan. You know, Killer Mike was in town. He had a show at the world famous Apollo Theater in support of his new album Michael. I couldn't make it, you know, unfortunately, but thanks to social media, I saw
what went down. He brought out Cameron and I saw clips of them performing a Sucker or Not, which is always a classic record. And you know, I feel like if you're doing the if you're an artist doing the Apollo Theater, you can't. You have to call Cam or like someone from the diplomatic It's almost like a rite a passage, like y'all don't care if it's freaky zeke or Duke to God, you just got to call someone from their camp to come and represent and give you
that stamp. But you know, from what I saw, it was really dope. And shout outs to Mike and he's doing this thing. You know, he's currently on tour as well, so make sure you check him out when he comes to your city. But overall, this was a great conversation. You know, Michael is the album of the year to me so far. I don't think we're only six months in, but I feel like he has a strong, strong case for an album of the year.
I thought it. I found the album to be like really thoughtful, spiritual, intentional, playful, and just like overall entertaining, and you know that's what you're getting this time around.
It's like the first time in my professional career that I've heard people say, y'all, Killer Mike has the album of the year. And this is coming from Killer Mike fans and people outside of his usual demographics. So I'm really happy. I'm proud of him. But you know, Mike is afraid to speak his mind. And if you ever saw a first interview with him a couple of years ago, you know I was giving it up right. So, uh, while I guess I negotiate Elliott's ransom, Uh, sit back
and enjoy killing Mike once again. On the Rap Rate All Podcasts, Yeah, yeah, it's a Rap Raid All podcast.
My name is beat Out Elliott Wilson.
Ellie was back in the A, back in the A for this man, Killer Killer from Adamsville, added.
Turn hosts man.
Philip.
Mike is here, baby, so only because he made a great album. That's the only Reasonase here.
I made the best album this year.
That's what listen to the.
Tone truths A lot of there's a lot of people on the internet to agree with you, Mike.
Yeah, because I'm telling the truth and I've never I don't speak out of turn.
I put in the work. I did it the best this year.
And that's across genres, across what you think like it's it's it is absolutely the best. If you are from the worker class ass in this country, particular worker class man and the women that love him, his wife, his love his mother, is daughter's nieces. This this record is for you. It honors you, honors the legacy. So you know, especially black black Atlanta in this city. I grew up like the Dusty Rose of hip hop. Right now, Man, that's a super.
Hard time, long time, hard time, hard time. When you're getting laid off in the middle of a pandemic, that's hard.
That's hard time.
That's why they tar my bathers, no booth wreck, you know what I mean. We gave grace of the people who lived around you know, so many. Yeah, a hard time, that's what I wanted to be.
Yeah.
But even with legacy, like literally from the beginning, you know you obviously a Dudgeon family legacy.
First voice we hear is we go we go away.
Yeah, I'm saying that timing is everything, Yes, and it just feels like. Look, he said, with this record, eleven years after rap music, it's kind of your time, right, it is your time, Like why do you think it's it's lined up that now? This is actually for all you've accomplished. This is your time.
Because I stayed consistent. I put one foot in front of the other every day, every single day for twenty years. I didn't complain. I didn't hate. I didn't hold envy, you know I didn't. I didn't begrudge the youth.
Let's sit on that.
That's big than that whole envy and like not, Yeah, I didn't begrudge the youth.
You know, I never shit in on nobody.
Anybody I fucked, I apologized to and usually she forgave me and we fucked the game. I just I just stood on it, right, Yeah, I stood up. And that don't mean it was perfect. That don't mean a message didn't get made. But if I apologize to Ernest, but.
What do you think why you think you came together for this project in such a way that give it was just sort of completion?
Because I think that as on one half of arguably best rap group on earth today would run the Jewels and you know, a lot of times when people don't want to compete with you, they'll give you a compliment. I mean, you know, really, y'all kind of alternative you know what I'm saying. Like I seen run DMC in a fresh Fest, So yeah, they were alternative to because they audience will always looked like like sugar, salt and pepper.
And so I'm covering me, I exactly E n w A. So you know, if that's what you want to give us, okay, cool, we'll do that too. But we're gonna march twenty years from now to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But while we do that, you know, and there's one of the Jews universe. It's like an X Men universe. There's an origin story to one half of the group because you never knew him. You knew him in proxy to the people who changed his life and gave him opportunity to change his like and gave him a deal.
You know him in proxy to his friend and rap partner and business partner you know, with Chipping Grand Hustle, and I was so grateful to be able to be given a place for Shelton. You knew him at proxy of being you know in one half of running Jews, but now you needed to meet Michael. This is a nine year old buck two kid from this side of town where we're at in Atlanta, who used to say coke cans and recycle right around the corner so he could go to six Flags and go to Graffiti's and
to dance with the girls. Then our white parents and Douglas, we'll start complaining their clothed graffiti, you know what I mean. But he was just this little kid from this side, man rying his bike, having adventure. And y'all never met him. You know a lot of people say I never listened to kill him. I thought, because you never met me. You know, you you knew I was a you know I have bars and I but you didn't seek to know me because you didn't identify anything from you and me.
But now with this record, it's impossible for you to be a human being and like I say, to be from a worker class and turn away from this because I'm telling our story. This is like Jordaniel Hurston amusing men, guy was watching God. This is Algus Wilson fences. This is an Ernie Barnes paint.
This is art. Also saw something where you tweeted like you're very proud.
Like I used always say with you, d D would rap and tell you things and you'd be like, who is he mentioning?
Who's this person?
And then you do your research, like you know, Showley Chisholm and the type of person, Like I feel like there's a lot of that in your album. You're mentioning all these African American entrepreneurs a lot of people don't even know, and now we like, who.
Is that person? Let's look them up.
Yeah, man, that's why I want you to want to use your Google. When I say when I say, when I say her J. Russell, I want you to use your Google. When I said Alonzo Hernery, I want you to use you j always he dobs. Because what I need you to understand is what I understood growing up.
You already good enough, you already competent enough.
So walk with the confidence of knowing you can do it, and even if you don't know what you're doing, you gonna figure it out. Even if you don't know what you're doing. When I mentioned Herman J. Russell, he came up in the slums of the city. When you talk about see because y'all don't know Atlanta. All these folks can give, y'all know parts of Atlanta, even give y'all Metro Atlanta. Y'all ain't never been to Atlanta. You know, y'all ain't never been on Simpson Role. Y'all ain't never
been in Summer Hill in People's Town. When you talk about a slum or a shanty, you know what I mean. That's what my father's family's trump. You come out of Summer Hill, you come out of People's Town. Hermit Russell one of the poorest parts. It's one of the places they called buttermilk bottom, the bottom, that type of stuff. You start hearing stuff like the bluff. That's where I'm from. You know, I'm from Atlanta. I'm from the West Side. So Herman Russell is a young entrepreneur.
He's a kid.
He wants he wants to get a you have to get a license to have a shoe shine box. And he goes and they laugh at him, and the police don't even let him get his license for a shoe shine box. He don't let them stop him. He goes shine shoes any way. He buy a lot across from the house he grew up and he buys a lot. Turned out he bought the wrong lot. Well, he bought the right lot, but he thought it was wrong. He thought it was the wrong life. A white man said, well,
this is my lot. Your lot was next though, so you bene built on my lot. He worked out of business deal, ended up getting a lot from the white guy. Going to Touchki University held of an athlete, but he begins to build something. He knows how to do plaster, so he ends up getting bigger plaster jobs. Eventually we get a mayor in here, Maynard Jackson, who's the son of John Wesley Dobbs Maynard. I'm gonna do a soft called Mainer one day.
Y'all.
Remember that Maynard.
Requires the city to use twenty nine percent African American. You know, whether it's whether it's whether it's construction or whether it's people that are selling goods and services and products. He requires it. So this gives all these black people who hard work and who got an opportunity a chance. So out of Herman Russell billing the Russell Empire, you get a man like Noel Khalil. What's Noel Khalil do? Noel Khalil is a person who handled strictly through his company.
One half his company affordable housing to make sure that people can still afford to live in the city while they're getting themself together to buy their first homes and things of that nature. That's what he does exclusively. Actually, one of the last things before he died, God bless it dead was to do a big development under Keisha
Lan's bottoms. Well, what's why is Noel Khalil significant? Well, Noel Khalil just saw fit to see two little boys who used to trap on bank Head, used to sell dulphin all kind of stupid shit, and they became rappers and then they say, well, we want to be entrepreneurs. He started teaching them about business. They ain't teach everything, but the stuff he offered helped us grow. Those boys with t I and Killer Mike. Well, why is that significant? Well, Kill t I just put one hundred and forty three
affordable housing units on Bankhead. Mike's doing the same thing around the corner with less units, and they just put they just bought in their building bank Head Seafood together.
I'm just saying, Nigga, welles that happened at you understand what I'm saying I found out. I got to love it.
Man, A nigga queen right now, queen something black out, black art on the wall, everybody behind the camera black except the one have some white ones right there.
I know he got a black girl and children at all.
Just saying, man, this is I am walking empowerment. Not because I had to go read some books and had to overcome it. No, because I saw it. You saw the greatness of the young I didn't see success. I saw greatness. See a lot of black people see success. That's why they trying to emulate other people. That's why they want to be somebody else. That's why you They'll moved somewhere else. They'll raise your kids amongst other folks.
Then it would come time for your prom and your wedding. God, damn it, the baby who here he brought don't look.
Like mama and daddy.
That's not no connection. It's not the same thing.
What I saw was common black folks taking care of themselves in their household, helping their neighbors in their community, and having a vibrant community of mixed income black folks diverse in terms of religion, all types of belief systems. But they were common in that we are in a protracted struggle to make sure that each generation after us can replicate this and grownents. I'm from the Carer Heights in Adamsville, google a Carr Heights. I'm mayor now moved
to the Carer Heights. So he grew up in Adamsville, he grew up a little, he became mayor. He moved right to the community that was right next door. You get what I'm saying. That's the lamb, that's the difference. I ain't got to go twenty five miles outside the city.
Find my man.
You definitely feel the connection with this album. When did you start to start to make it?
Man?
This album started being made with that little nine year old Bucktooth boy decided he was gonna be a rapper with the horns and the halo.
When he started going on all adventures here.
I didn't understand God's journey and I didn't understand my purpose. I just knew I was like no, man. God said, hey man, it's a ham over there. I want you to build a boat. Well what fu man? I said, just build a boat. We'll talk more about it. So the first record on here it's two thousand, maybe six team whatever. The last year of Obama's presidency is.
Now by law.
Was started then and it was just a freestyle. It was just something to get how I was feeling off. So that's how long I've been better than most rappers, right, I put this freestyle down. I don't even finish it, but I have to get it out now. I go on a ten year run essentially, or eight yeah, about eight year run because it was full ten, so it
was about two years to run the Jews. I started the freestyle going an eight year run when I'm totally focused on what I'm doing, and this is building one of the great groups, building one of the greatest groups and brands. That is the total goal. And this is to me the importance of me having to understand goals and discipline because I had once. I had once to
do more than to be recognizing. But my focus and my goal was on everything I was pointing to was running Jews and it still is is this expans are running new Jews on verse. But man, during COVID, I started seeing people die and this year long, I've been to nine funerals, and I started saying, man, if you don't go ahead and let these people know who you are. You're gonna die and they gonna think you was a character that this little kid made up. They're not gonna
they're not gonna understand why you raped so voraciously. They're not going understand. They don't understand the humility because they ain't never been humble, you know, they don't understand the ability to talk on off the microphone because they don't understand where you're from. So let people know who you are so they can decide, you know what they think of.
One of the most powerful moments on the album is you know, shed tears like that third verse? Right, First of all, you're a third verse killing that's a secret record. But in the whole album, it's like there's a lot of the.
Ways you waited for the third Now you've been looking for the first. Oh, man, I got to I got to go first.
Bro, you known miss this whole motherfucking record.
Man to talk about that third versus shed tears? I feel like I have such a testimony in its own right.
Every morning in the bathroom mirror, face to face with fate, had to face my fears.
It was me.
I'm the reason that I fail.
That was hell.
Understand why you why do you feel looking at back in your journey? In so many ways, you were the reason you.
Felt because if you can't accept self accountability in it, you you always powerless. You know what my man crosses wearing I kill your master's shirt. You know people low thinking almost who want to say I had got you? They say, are you're not taking up arms? Gliston governments said what we all could have joined in January sixth and did that? Everybody enjoyed it. So obviously your true masters? What are you weak to? What do you succumb to? What am I allowed to control me?
You know what I mean?
So? And in terms of my own behavior is obviously I like food a little too much. So right around the corner, been taking my butt, working my ass off, forty seven pounds down. You know you have to, you have to, you have to, you have to, in my opinion, find where am I accountable in it? I knew he was lying. I let this nigga out of me and let this nigga fun. I can't even be mad he a j I knew my uncle ain't gonna pay me my money? Bad, I'm so I can't be mad in
my uncle. Man, I got this accountability. I knew one coming back. I knew, I knew, I knew, I knew I didn't love her. I knew we just made love and we made a baby. And I knew when I left her it was gonna hurt her and she was gonna use the government to hurt me.
So I can't.
I can't be mad at her. She can't be.
All my life and I'm mad. Like no, Man, you knew y'all was just having fun, you know. You know what I'm saying, And you have to if you find accountability in it, man, you can. It brings such a peace and it'll allow you not to not to not to step in front of the bullets again.
You know number too. Yeah yeah, some of touches on that a real absolutely situation.
Yeah yeah, I remember, man. One of the most importantlessons I learned about giving people graces when our cans at the Pinnacle, Drey was like, I'm ana, cos I'm to try some other things.
Bigs.
Like We've had these artists that were on a criminie, we pivot them to purple rib as. I want to save the day for everyone. But man, everybody's day can't be saved because none of us are really saviors. Were just being conduence for what we can and I remember being overly critical in terms of how things were being handled and I didn't want to stand behind you know what I'm saying. And then I remember calling in the middle of the night one night when I was independent on I.
Said, I'm sorry.
I said, I see, you know what I'm saying, and like by now we've been made back up we super court. He said, yeah, this I'm trying to tell you. Yeah, you know what I mean. And like I brother, he says, I really appreciate it. I said, yeah, I said I could. I can't out. I'll tell you, I get what you're saying. When you're responsible for other people and every decision matter of somebody, man, it can't get overwhelmed, you know. So I have I have to. I have to accept my
accountability in it. Even though I went on a mixtape tirade with the Playing series. I did my thing, I made shot and die. You know what I'm saying. But I wish I would have unders do and giving the grace because then I could have asked advice. You could have said hey, yeah, you know and that and that's that's what I love about making this record. There were times, man, you just you got that you had to laugh or
you wanted to cry. You're like, look at the full ship I was on you know, you know what I mean, and you and it was it was a it was a feeling like my wife said, you know, I'm finally glad you you wrapped about her because you were so in love.
You just you know what I mean. I'm just like, you know, I was in high.
School even down by law like that. That's that part about her is like kind of it's super powerful.
Absolutely, you share a lot of.
These persons, Like can you explain, like you know, her important, how she's made you a better man?
Like the whole we made each other better, you know, I don't. I know.
It's a lot of subfings on the internet talking a lot of ship in terms of who versus who, But man, I saw two people better and willing man. But the folk were so they were so good. They were so good they talked ship to each other every day. Every single day man her invented was gonna say something crazy to each other, and they was gonna argue social things or politics or just how the food should be served. But they loved each other. I remember my grandfather died,
you know, twenty years ago. Man Burt got out of here on me and I remember, man, it was it.
Was so it was so heavy.
I tried to comfort my grandmama and say, you know, but hey, I say, Mama, he died.
Fishing, you know, he died doing what he loved. A storm came in and boat and she's sitting.
On the bed.
So I'm here, my wife here, shut not staying out even shame, not even my wife at the time.
She's stating right here. And she said, I said, mom, well he died during he love.
He loved coming home too. He loved coming home sitting right here next to me. Now what you got to say? And I'm just like, oh, well, I have nothing because I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. I remember crying, crying, and my sister, say, my sister Lake Sharlotte. She came up to me. She she pet me on the back. She said, well, you know, get it on out today because tomorrow you the head of this family.
It's twenty years ago. I'm irresponsible, I'm man, I'm having too much fun, doing too many drugs, and another I'm not And all of a sudden, my sister hit me with this, My little sister baby, she hit me with that.
I'm just like, oh fuck, you know what I'm saying.
It took me the last twenty years sold to get it figured out, but I think I finally got to figure it out.
So what I try to do with my marriage's.
Emulate that immulate what my grandparents had in that they.
Talked shit to each other, they loved and respected each other.
I gotta I got a partner man who called her from jail right now, Lord knows I want to help burn him out. But until shake call back and say, hey, you know, let's let's let's just do it.
You know what I mean?
I got the pause because I got to confirm her on that. Because we're partnership. We moving like a team. I don't and I don't care if you got you know, for brothers who out there, I don't care if you got one, four or fourteen. You better have a team. You better someone you are you are, you are partnership and then lead with because man, it'll it'll, it'll, it'll
serve your advantage. It will serve your advantage and having peace, It'll serve your advantage and target thinking from an alternative perspective, and it'll serving advantage. Probably watching your six o'clock, you know, making sure to make sure you say somethinghere.
You said you put such a person she approved you.
Kind of putting so much of a personal investment in getting this project even done.
Yeah, I did it out of my own pocket. I spent over a half a million dollars. You know, I see a half of men just because I don't want her to remind me, you know. But yeah, well you know I don't. I don't really question her if I see you know, the account might hit me like, hey man, you know we're seeing money moving?
Did you?
And Shade Tom was just like whatever she's doing, you know what I mean? I know it's I know it ain't. I know she ain't found no nigga and moved a Costa Rica, you know what I'm saying. Not then I'm gonna meet my brotherhood and what we're doing and you owe me pay bad, you know what I'm saying. So six months later, I mean three months later, when she hit me and say, hey, my grandmother's house.
You bought for me for my birthday.
I just I finished it and I've turned it into an Airbnb and I'm going down to Savannah and can put all the put all the appliances in it. That's what she's doing right now, you know. So for me, that's I need that kind of partner. You know, if I leave a dope at the house, I know it's gonna get sold and ain't no money Againstole. So I appreciate it.
I love her for that.
And like I said, she got the hard of on the side of she couls. She got the militant is winning in Della, you know when it comes to her and her family. And that's what the fuck this shit about.
Man.
You better have a try, you better have somebody to give a fuck about you. And that's what my city is. My my neighborhood was a neighborhood. I don't I don't know that that blighted ship. You know, it's it's it's fucked up. I had some cousins, lord know, we went to got hood house, the projects, but we came back so horrible. Like my mother, Yes, we understanding. You know what I'm saying. What you got me, you won't get in and push back out of us for a couple
of months. So I know that a lot of my people have went through that, and I laugh and joke, but seriously, I don't want that. But I know a great education counters that. I know a mixed income community where you got Southwest Atlanta, everybody from the last six seven black mayors to the working class people who work for the city all there. I know that when we can enrich our school zones, all the kids get. And I'm not talking about hopefully, I'm talking about what I
grew up. What I'm saying in Atlanta is we got to churn the salt. We got to keep doing this shit, which is why I give you this record. This record is about me in this city, growing up, the yellow and not sure and and the mistakes we've made and the right we've gotten right, and how to grow the rights and reduce the wrong.
You know, the album does feel really atto biographical, and when I was listening to it, I felt like you made this album in the same spirit of Grandma's House.
I fucked with you, you know, off of pledge of.
Leads to the grind. It's like, is that an accurate assessment?
Yeah?
Well, it comes from the energy comes from the same place. But I'm a much better artist now Grandma's House. I used a sample I was. It was a song dedicated to Miss betting Man my Gradiatu, you know what I mean. It was and it was meant. But I didn't cut as deep as I cut on this album. Like like what you were seeing there is probably Jackson Pollock the first time he took a canvas and just did that forroduences.
You might not know what Jack Johnson and see he only did the style of paint a couple of years, but look at what he did and you can look at it and you can tell it ain't just to shoot you buy rooms to go. You're not just splattering.
There was intent.
So that was my first and if you look at other works the way I used so I was God in the building. But this record, I just I said, I'm gonna walk out of this motherfucker looking like a painting. I'm gonna just splatter everything I am and we're gonna shape it, forming and mold it and we're not gonna stop until it's perfect.
And that's what that's what we did.
And actually I can't even say it's perfect, as much as they say no artists ever finishes a work of Archie just abandoned it.
We just worked until we didn't have anything in left.
But you brought a gentleman on as no Id. Yeah, the great producers man. You geave him executive producing Crown Record, Well he executive producer. Yeah, what was his touches on it? Do you feel like did he take it to this level?
I gotta give credit to three producers who really influenced me. Nonymal note, because he's a goddamn professionist perfect. He's like he was like me, me, and his relationship is probably similar to Dread and Swoop, Like I'm like, what the fuck do you want me to keep saying that one? God damn lying for Yeah. It was just like just trust me and that's what you do. It's just like, all right, he was right, you know what I mean? But he a fat fly niggas, so I trust him,
like Ray Murray, who has worked with something. We never finished it, but Ray walked in there early as we were recording me and because light Year, who's hell of a an r. Because because he said we knew we weren't trying to do run the Jewels light so we knew in terms of sound, we knew where we were chasing, where we were going.
We identified early. Ray said, what y'all can do?
It gotta be suck distinctly Southern, Southern and cohesive as the chronic and just walked out the room.
Except this.
And then with Dion when we when when when I did cause light Year and I had got the album to the point where I felt like it was probably one of the most amazing mixtapes, solid albums I've ever heard in my life. We were like, well, it's trying to holler Dion, like, see if he got time to do it. Deon said he hadn't recorded. He hadn't recorded, I think in eight months because his daughter had just been born. And then he came out of that and she said he just went crazy, made like a hundred beets.
But he sent us this beat project to listen to. It was like thirty forty.
Fifty beats, and me and cousin just went in. We just went in and started snatching like this, this, this, this is. We flew out there and Magic was just on it, like you know I had already you know, see note had started with me down here cool and Drake had started with me here rich sound and aspiration, and we we wanted to go to Don Cannon. Cannon had already but when we got out there to Dion and then we have the work, not only the work that he had sent all these other producers, there was
such similarity. We knew where we wanted to be in gospel. We knew where we wanted to be in soul. This hour very much was a spiritual homecoming from and the morals I was raised with, you know. And Dion introduced me to professionalists and what's that. That's when you go get ros Dame o God pay Aaron all and came you.
Know what I mean?
When when these people started coming, I remember from Shay came in just like I remember, like who is she and why the is she so goddamned good?
She just everybody's bar background vocalist.
Everybody was a fuck musician, kniper.
Everybody was a musician.
Nobody came to play, and nobody took themselves so seriously that they weren't playful.
So that was just this vibe that that was teamwork.
And Dion was that's about do this and this is going to be the outcome and more about see what will happen?
We'll see without let's explore. Yeah, you know, let's take it further. You got something great, let's just take it.
And I love it for it.
I love him for it because just like a you know what they say, when the student's ready to teach, will appear to teach teach. And after almost twenty years of knowing him and being a friend and aspirationally wanting it, when I was ready, he appeared, and here it is.
You know, I'll never make albums the same again. Ever, how did Dave Chappelle appear on the album?
I mean, that's I wake up, Like, how the fun did you get to be friends with Dave?
He's on the beginning of Run.
Yes, Yes, that was based on a conversation I've seen. I went to see him when he played here, and we've we've grown friends weirdly enough, and I love it because I was always a fan. And then my friend just talked to me after the show. But you need to run, nigga, you know me drunk having a cigarette. I like, nig you don't run people around this motherfucker. We want you, We trust you, and I'm just like
you trust me. I'm like, I'm doing drugs with you, and and Dave, I'm pretty sure that my wife brought strippers with us.
You know.
He's like, that doesn't matter.
What matters is that people know who you are. You're honest.
And it was just a hell of a pep talk. So I actually recreated it and and when I do get ready to run for office one day, I'm probably gonna use Dave's voices and curse.
Nigga, get your ass up and run.
I thought that hook was inspired by that seating higher learning. When ice Cube was saying, Mike go like, run nigga run.
Now, it wasn't it being confident for me? Okay? Did you change the run that run?
I was like, okay, yeah, that's a That's what all my grandmother would say. For people who think I was like sensory. No, the run nigga run version it's still out there.
You get it.
But but old folk in the South, you know, they'll that you don't get whole phrase and said better run, run, better run.
You know, it just reminded me of Beatric, So that's why I changed it.
Was just but what does that say to me? To you?
When he said nobody asked that they want to be perfect. We just asked people to be honest.
Man.
It just it just reminded me of why my grandfather, who was who was not pro politician, not pro organized religion, while there were certain men in our community, he just respected you know, everybody knew Hosea.
Whereas could self a little self a little too much. My grandfather didn't give a shit if he got a d ui.
He gave a ship that while on city council, he provided something for the citizens in Atlanta.
So he didn't let propaganda turn him away.
And if my grandfather respected you, then I had to inspect respecting you, because I respected that man so much, you know what I mean. He was a drop out of the third grade, eight year old working in a sawmeal, defeed his mother and his sisters after his father abandoned him. Like this is my my daily hero. So if that man respected you, if if he had reverence from Maynard, then dare I not?
You know what I'm saying. So that was it for me, you know.
But you clap back at the critics too, man Like on talking and ship, that's one of my favorite joints.
Why did you decide to just to blackout like we have all these messages like you just wanted to get your thing off Djaul just.
Because they deserve it.
Yeah, y'all, ain't ship, y'all, ain't on TV. Y'all did win the Emmy. I did you know?
Like I ain't nobody who being had Grammars. Ain't nobody watching your little lame ass YouTube. Yat on black ship ain't got you? You still buying for White store like so my I say that just to say I don't have anything to say.
Y'all. Y'all words ain't worth no money.
I ain't smoke, bad bitch, So just don't listen to the song any time you want to, like when you want to invite me all your look, you get this nigga, don't have talked to nigga any time you want me to come on your little show.
Just play my song. That's it. Just play my song because I'm talking to you anytime. That's it.
I don't. I ain't got time for this ship.
Didn't know why to give a fuck about me when I was broken on my ass and I that's the when I was protesting for George not to kill that boy that out of Savannah when me and Big what was down there?
Y'all? Motherfucker went around here?
What your niggas was then with Cynthia McKinney and Karanji who was organizing right here when they was on the news telling you after that Catherine Johnson was killed, the police was fucked up.
Where your niggas was? Then? Huh what your niggas was doing? Then?
It wasn't YouTube, There wasn't mother time. That's all I'll be saying. Man.
I ain't tripping off smiling cool, but I'm saying, hey, man, help the people that's really doing the work, and stop doing what Jerry Springer did to you niggas in the nineties, arguing back and forth on TV and shit all sharped than its and shit like that.
This shit been done before. Man, this monkey ass shit y'all doing.
Get quiet.
Shut the fuck up, Roy, goddamn Guard, go out with the black pack because I'm talking to people locally. If you and the naw go out and learn how to camp, learn how to learn, how to start the five people, learn how to do something.
Get quiet. Watch the white folks show.
Up and hey, what do you going on over there? Nothing?
Our church just started a camp at five and one C three. Take twenty black boys fishing?
Do that? Do that show?
I'm showing them.
He even got to go to publics and hope the sam in them.
See, that's a longer process because now you're talking about my life. Now you're talking about twenty years of investment in a child. Yeah, so I don't want to hear what the fuck they be saying. So I gave him a song. So y'all got to show your dogs. Go back to your mauth. But he won't say nothing to us. I didnet ended up in Hillary Clinton campaign manager email.
But it's impoortant white folks. Thank you, dangers got time to be talking those niggas, man if I thank all the niggas who want to criticize niggas to start a coat and just follow the loudest, craziest nigga on the internet, and y'all go fix all the nigga problems. Y'all niggas got under control. I'm just rapping, baby, I was just rapping.
You alluded to an enrich that you know, you're you know secrets that some of these you just never know what Some of those secrets I knew.
Get Gregory.
I know some shiit y'all niggas. I ain't gonna never know, and I ain't gonna say because I like living. Yeah, I know some shiit y'all niggas will never know. Go do the study. Go back, cause, listen to what Dick Gregor is saying. Listen to what Paul Mooney was saying. Listen listening chompsky while he's still alive, while you still got it, go do your study.
You know what I'm saying.
Minister Faircard is still alive with y'all scared of go for the ratings and say two times went up there all pistol phone calls south south. Yeah, there's such a wealth of wisdom around you. Go seek the wisdom. Yeah, no, I don't. I'm my granddad tld me Stanle the white folk being. But that's what I'm gonna do.
Mention the fair Conn he's on something for the junkies.
That speech? Did you always like watch that on YouTube? Or like, how do you take I've seen the minister here. I seen the minister at Mars fifteen. I seen the Minister's probably since I was fifteen, Say Minister van Milison Towny, you said I I've seen Brian Nick, I've seen I've seen black men who went to prison murderers.
And savages and thieves and junkies and low lines. And I've seen one organization turn those men around. Now, I don't practice in abraham religion, so I don't argue religion. But when I'm talking about in terms you saw the innovation that I've seen produce greatness out of men who will consider trash food.
I see, man, I've seen something.
Man.
I get goosebumps talking about it. So for whatever you think of the personality, that's your opinion. I'm gonna stay out of.
White folk business. But in terms of.
When we're standing right now, that part was cleaned up by Alislam and the nationalist And while I'm saying that, freezing me a lot of me. And I'm not the only person saying that. Ady Young he said that too. And for those of you alls don't know, that's h rap brown google that learn some shit. You get what I'm.
Saying, mpopfo. I was covering through the Islam. They weren't gonna be no disturbance.
It wasn't gonna be be shoot, that's all I'm saying. We got the light skin to say it nothing that y'all pay. I felt safe, That's all I'm saying. Man, I'm just this. I want to tell folks to man. God, but I love my allies, Lord, but I need more. John Brown's yes, sir.
See.
John Brown knew what the mission was and he was willing to live in that for I don't need you from the sidelines telling me what to do and how to be black. You get an opportunity to be a voyeur and.
To see this.
But boy, don't don't come here. Don't come to my grandma house.
Tell her how to cook a grand If you don't need port the baby, find something else to eat.
She'll make yourself, you know.
But it's be brought up something for the junkies on its own. Yeah, extremely powerful song. Right, we talk about addiction, we talk about the nags and rap. But like even you've been touching on your aunt and stuff like that, Like talk about that song in general, like you know that's been talked about, that subject being been touched on.
But this on its own.
But I walk up level great.
I have a quick convo with my aunt Tiv the gicket. I tell them, baby, you've been going too hard. Ladies see you like sixty, baby, but you've been looking eighty, she said, She Michael, I've been smoking since eighty.
But Poto shoes back. They still called it free face. She closed her.
Eyes, found the side by time when she was beautiful, fine and still snorting.
Line. Man, the imagery is really power human being.
Man. You can't look at that and laugh at at They say that's a that's a jake. You can't look at that. It's something beneath beneath you of alaa like when I say, Pam fair wage, you do not treat your people like slaves. Yeah, all that ship we talked o we reparations that we done. Yeah, we But man, how are we when we have power? How were we when we have power? When he asked to cut our yard for twenty dollars and we talked him down to eight?
How were we when we have power? When we knew that woman, we knew when.
She was glorious, when we something and the minute she was willing to sell sexuality.
We used them.
And see you my age, Fuck are these kids talking out? You talking them? You mad at them? Remember what you did?
And then you're gonna have to sit in that fucking mirror and shed the tears because you gonna have to say I just didn't know no better, and you would have to accept your responsibility and give yourself some grace, and then you would have to realize, I'm an addict, I have addictions. I'm setting enough if the goddamn for God, but I'm still drinking. My doctor told stop drinking. I'm still drinking.
I like.
I like this, I like I like the feeling of this. So I'm going there in the post every day. You know, we all, you know, got some addictions. So we should be giving people grace, and we should have man, our lawmakers give people grace.
Miss President Man.
You know, I know we're across the street on a lot of things, but Man, an executive order, Man to decriminalize marijuana. Suit would help a lot of kids. You know, a real sweeping reform bill that helped our prisons become places where the sentences got lower, but they were conducive to learning trades and skills. So instead of giving one twenty years for a non violent drug offense, why wouldn't we do four and a half to seven and a half years with specialized traightening in the trade.
Yeah, right, that's doable in this.
Country unless we depend more on private prisons to stay seventy percent pool. So I'm just saying, you know, I'm not getting Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm just I'm just saying.
But even with back to junkies though, to talk about your own situation like was that was that a why did you decide the true story?
It made me feel like a little boy.
I'm talking you know how your mama have a friend of her aunt and might have made ten thousand one weekend.
Shut.
I think I'm bunking. I'm gonna be scar faced, you know. Second, and she young, I think I got seven eight cutlers. We are talking and she walking, pretty woman too, like kind of woman. She walking the room, taking out of the room all the nigga so all the dope boys, and one of them had you know, she said, you know she was talking. We're sitting there talking on smoking. Just take it on the man. And she said, let
me hear, give me a wake up. So wake up would be just like a little piece them the head gets started their divert business.
See way gave me wake up.
But I didn't like.
Seeing her, you know what I mean. So she she'll tell me to look ahere, she'll turn she hear it, and she.
Just kind of.
And she just she just became fully human with me, saying, you know, all y'all have niggas, buy from the same three niggas.
So you know, I'm thinking, I'm adult. Man, I'm a little black.
Donald.
Now I'm shamed because a woman in her feeline. It's a power in feminexuality. That's why stripples, you know, they niggas get all tight. You know what I mean, she said. I she said, I can have any with the shock, with any of these niggas. She said, I can have the niggas I had. She said, you know why while we while we shot with you, I'm like what she I thought I was the man I had figured it out. She said, put you treat us like we human being and she hugged the kids, fa on my.
Cheek and walked away.
I just felt like a little boy, right, just like I just realized I'm a child.
Yeah yeah, and you know, and.
I had to still be about probably about nineteen or twenty, but I'm a child of her. I'm the same age I was when she met me. And here she is supplying her. I'm supplying her for something I treated fall, you know what I mean. But to know that she noticed and the hug you and the break like an auntie kiss you on your cheek, like hey, you're gonna get this shit figured out one day. So now when I talk to her that she got a trucking company, then a son worked for and she pulled herself out
of that ship and she cleaned. You know, another one month tea came about that ship beautician daughter clean.
Though.
See these the real stories that I'm seeing. I'm not listening to nobody's opinion on black folk who not black. I'm seeing you succeed. Oh man, I gotta talk about this shit. I know, God good, you.
Gotta talk about fables and performance on that rock man.
We had shots out ex publicist cliff Man. He left the industry and changed his life out all health. They probably be meditating and flowing and ship shots out. I mean, he's good with the Angelo. And I tried to get Jonathan to get me in touch with DMX, so I wanted DMX to put a prayer on it and God bless it dead.
He had passed.
He passed on them.
But I was trying to get the Angelo on the record.
And this just shows you when God tell you pick up a hammer, start building a boat. Whatever the supply is gonna come, they're gonna come. The ones that needed are gonna come. I knew I needed another voice on this record for this record to be what I needed it to be. I knew it couldn't just be a rap record. There had to be a soul that had to be brought. And DiAngelo had it, and I know he's experienced in terms of I knew he would understand and he had heard it from what I heard and liked.
But it got to be so long. You know, you're getting the business now on the folks like, hey, no, I know, I know what your passion project. You just spit out of your money. Now you're spending our money and we got to pay you some money back.
So what's up, fat?
What's up?
What's up with a soul?
And all standing the steak on your and new face walk in if you got historian, new face walk in and faith O't walk right behind him, and and it's and it's like you hear God.
Said, there you go?
Mm hmm.
Can get a read In nineteen seventy three. But Fabo got the soul. So I say, faith on, man, I got something. I want to hear it. I think it could be he hears what he calls back. The next day he kills it. He we got one comment, go crazy, then don't hold back. This is not a rap record.
This is and man.
He brought a soul. He bought blaxploitation. He brought them hot, sweaty Pentecostal churches. He brought you know you this faith. You're laughing at this.
You know this?
This aint?
Yeah exactly.
And he was a voice for the voiceless. And I appreciate him so much.
Definitely fit man. It was. It was the perfect come on here yet man, you said, miss yet you haven't. I ain't missed yet, you haven't.
And this is this is My wife woke up and she said, hey, you know, happy Resurrection Day on the dead drop. You know, and and and I know of people who do believe in Christianity. You reborn when you get baptized, when except Christ in life you So this is to me the start of the next ten years. This is this is the start of the next ten year playing. This is not a one off. This ain't give me my flowers. I want the whole fucking farm. So I'm comfortably right back on y'all. Lass, I'm a
marching to the Grammys. We're gonna walk out with some fucking hardware, and I'm marching even.
Though hind and holding. You have this kind of like repentance spirit. You know what I'm saying.
Like this, I'll tell you, Ama that extend the same respect to all your baby Mama. The streets is trifle. Be carrying rifles, grandy carrying bibles. We carry hatred for our rivals. Killed his brother because God showed them fail. Man k up its own saving man to kill his nighfor man to kill his knife.
They so so.
A lesson God.
Yep.
I writ up and tighten up, God show I apologize if I've ever smoked this taste words in front of Elda sitting at the dinner table, I writing up and tighten up a God show me favor.
I mean it.
I mean a lot of y'all kids out there. Man, y'all having bad luckshit fucked up.
Man.
Watch how you're act in front of old folks. I don't give a fuck how wrong you is, how much stupid shit you went to. When old folks come around, tighten up. If you on the train, get up. Let the old lady sit down and watch how God bless you, watch how you come and leave right for the police come. But you gotta have a good heart even when you're in the midst of the bullshit. Tighten up, man, tighten up. My grandma used to tell me that, tighten up, tight up.
I remember, man, I was going, boo, I'm going down Martin Luther King.
It's a drop.
Nigga that I never did no business with. I think I'm trying to pick up a nine or something from the nigga cour coarter. I'm picking up nine nine eighteen thirty six is quarter brick as brink all bread. The nigga get the call in me h, I say, oh, this same nigga actual following he give miss a drop nigga, I passed. I see my grandmama. I see my grandmama fan at a little church out of me. I still don't even run it either, go to that church like that, Taja Pa, I said, let me go holler, my grandma,
go at least money with the church. You know, you know, no niggas just figure like like I'm gonna run like the Catholic's gonna drop something off. You're an all time because one hundred hundred year ago you can drop something off pay for your sen years, right, I said, I'm trying to run like the fourteen all us on there, and my grandmama said, I took the handle of the money.
But she she sitting most of me to sit down.
So I'm sitting there and and the preacher he preaching all ladies, you know, amen, and he say, man, he says, somebody in Hell was going somewhere and you're not. You're not supposed to be gone. So now I'm like, man, nigg you go the fuck out of here.
I'm getting up and grown. She mostly heil me.
Now sit there and man that he called for, you know, basically call for for them to prank and get to praying hard and praying around and and I just realized that moment, man, I was driving to my death, like them niggas wouldn't kill me. All of now over over gid nine hours, adult like I'm finna be out here. My greatest feeling I have dropped out of more house. I want to be a musician. I want to be a rapper, and I'm a fuck around in this dumb ass street ship. And let these stupid ass niggas kill
me because they know I'm not supposed to be. They not smart enough. They know I ain't getting nobody. Wait, they know I'm making some money, helping us for money.
But they don't like me because different you don't belong, really don't.
Belong, not like I'm not from the same neighborhood, not like my mom, ain't who she is for real, not like I, not like I cake. But they they they know you better than this. And boy, when a nigga know you better than something, he'll get to resent it, yeah, and he'll get the res in you, and he'll he'll fuck you over because he didn't have the same shots. He didn't have the same opportunity that you wasted. And
that's why I'm not wasteful. I appreciate it. I ended each day with gratitude because I know that day was a death day for me. If I had made that decision and not listen to my grandmother's discernment, if I had listened to the Lord speaking through her, I'd be dead as a motherfucker. So for me, I wanted to I wanted that character because that's my real case. That's who I really am to be shock because we never talk about that.
You know.
I listened to somebody today, Well it went through hell and back, but you will never know it. Listen to the music, m my things. I have been through hell and that I know you going through hell.
So I want you to heat.
But that's the fascinates me with like you know, like you all the years you put in artists, like you used to think back in the day, like if.
You're older, you're gonna fall off.
But you see now the artists get better and better as time goes on, Jay and Nas and you are worse the fire. Why this you get Older's like you can tell the stories better with more clarity.
Back then you lose that ego in the insecurity, you lose it.
You're just who you are. Just here, man. I heard Cane drop a freestyle. Oh my god, Ris, oh my god.
Like that Now the question because for me, those of us who are of age, what are we gonna be supporting?
Are you?
Are you just gonna buy records from the eighties and nineties? Are you gonna say, man, these artists still rapping. Let me see what's happening, especially since at the time you ain't even got to worry about producing the whole album.
Just as the artist put out songs, you get delivered.
Andre. You can shut everybody up here.
With one verse, right, not me though, but you call it three way time. It ain't nobody white we that third verse, Michael.
But when it comes to lyricism, you know, even touched on it a little bit. You said, it's underwhelming to be so overly underrated. Now, I thought about the Kendrick Lamar song on the pip A Butterfly. He said, if people for cared about rapping, killing Mike wil be platinum. So I was just curious as to what do you like? What do you think about your place in the game.
And I think I'm still I think I'm still clawing and scratching it and grinding like everybody else. I don't I do man that You know, when people say legend, I understand it spoken from a respectful play I don't identify being no legend.
Legends on.
You heard about you saying for yourself, I'm playing, I'm in the game. You got to you got to put your ship next to mine. That's just what it is. You got to put it next to mine. Man, I'm here, you know what I mean, and I intend to stay here. So yeah, I don't. I appreciate the love, but I appreciate the respect in this record. You got to respect it. Yeah, that's it. Listen, give yourself fifty three minutes and sit with this one and see if you don't feel something joy came.
You don't feel like a hero, feel like.
You know, I feel like I feel like a villain on Yeah, So I don't.
I don't. You know again, man, I appreciate y'all shame me, man, but I ain't.
I ain't done.
You're gonna have I'm gonna give you something else to appreciate right after the Grammars and something else appreciate again.
You feel like you feel confident, like twenty years and like I feel like this is the first time I'm hearing people saying like killer Mike has the album.
Absolutely it is right, and that's why you don't stop chasing it. I told somebody said what I say, dog, No, I ain't even asked. I say, hey, man, I say, why I get to chase it this?
Well? Twenty years?
This on me this, see this, and it's the starting. This is the start. Yeah, it's not the end, it's the beginning. This ain't no grand closing, SA ain't no motherfucking eulogy. I always wanted to do this. Nah this What the fuck I've been trying to figure out and it's swan something.
Yeah, what the fu? See what I do that? I got a whole nother than that minute trade record? Y'all they even heard yet me and him? I got a record.
I've held this couple for twelve years. You ain't heard. We recorded thirty nine records, but this only only used fourteen. I'm probably gonna drop it. Look so you're gonna get some.
More of that.
But yeah, I'm a I'm performing at at an excellent level. You know, I'm performing the lyrical dexterity of big But have the work output is two pots? Can I have that death theory? Can I have Biggies lyrical dexterity with Tupac's working. That's my mission, Like, that's what I'm trying to do, to have word play that movie and that's hill.
And output like pop.
So what's the showgunna look like with the revival and the whole situation.
Man, it's gonna be a show.
It's gonna be a real show.
The tour is about to kick off, was about to kick off.
Man, Yep, we bring your production.
We got the Midnight Revival back then, we got DJ tracks Star back there, DJ Swift out has j that's like, yeah, when you get cut out the Swift and now that's like when you bring all the other Preacher. You know when you thought revival Preacher. Yeah, because Swift, Swift is one of the best DJs in the world. But Swift also musical directs and he's a hell of a voice behind him. Swift went the Carver High School. Shouts out
to George watching Carver High School. Not only they have trains and skills, they had one of the best bands and instruments. Again, this is just Atlanta ship, you know what I'm saying. Like, you know, I know, we got in Harlem, we got down from next school. But imagine being in Atlanta. Your rival school is you go to Frederick Douglas. Your rival school is bitter, but be made. All your teachers went to the Booker t Washington. Y'all, the you know you'r the rival might be like a Carver C. L.
Harker like, it's just made. It's a blessing. Yeah, And we have a culture here that other people do not have, and then we should be proud of that. Atlanta, Like, I know you're like dressing like other folks and pretending you're from somewhere else because you're from the South, and we just have sometime we had those insecurities.
But be proud of who you are. We made something.
Our grandparents, a lot of them came from the deeper and more rural South.
They came and they made something of this.
And we it's our job to keep this ship going.
How proud of you of Emmy Wind You got the Grammy.
Two away from me, the Emmy for Love and respect it and I wanted for the episode while I was interviewing Bernice Kid, I just man, I smiled big. I'm so happy I didn't because I wasn't expecting it. I remember with Scott Carter, Scott Carter cole, he and Bill Maher co starred or co founded politically and corrected, you know, real time. With Bill Maher, he was with him for years. Scott told me when he was there, hey, you need
your own show. When he left, he called me like, hey, I got an idea we should do his show, and love and respect came out of that. It is carried in PBS all accrossgation. I think we're in sixty seventy percent of the markets now. It's an interview style show like Tavis Smiley Charlie Rolls type show. And we won an Emmy for us a couple of weeks ago, and you know, I feel good about it because I've wanted
to be on TV since I was a kid. I was a kid, I'm a I'm a I'm in an all black neighborhood, all black everything, so the only way I get to see the outside world is TV. Fred Rodgers is an important person in my life to give me. Talked about it a lot because mister Rogers was a person that didn't look like you know, the scary people they were talking about, you know, Bob Ross, that that type stuff. So, man, I wanted to be on television, and public television being a lot of good for me.
So gett an opportunity to be on public TV has been an honor. Winning the emmyans and honor, and I plan to come back and get an armful of Grammys in a few months too.
And you're also on TV as well with the Oar made a cameo.
Yeah and Dave, Yeah, look at today man Man shouts out the little Dicky Mandy.
He hit me back with the most amazing album review.
He asked me about everything from the mixes to the instrumentation.
He is.
He is a pure rap nerd like all of us right here. And I love that bro.
I consider him a free in in that being on being actually be on television has always been an honor because again, I want to be on TV. Right when the writer strike happened, I was developing something cool. So we'll see what happened. But I want to I want to do cool stuff, you know what I mean, And television is cool. I don't want to stop rapping. I don't want to seek television as you know. As I'm like, I see I see even what years and he's still
go out of tour body account. So I'm just like, oh gee, I want to be like, oh, I want to do everything I ever wanted to do.
I was like, how the season finale of Ozark and with y'all premiered it, Yeah, on the show, and then you had came on the next.
Season it was it was beautiful. Man.
I have a blessed life. I take all the hardship all over again. The only way I would trade this is like I said on Motherless, if if God gave her back to me, yeah, you can have it all back.
I work for the city. Put on my uniform. You and t are working together. Yeah, when is that seafood up?
You drive out here? Okay, you see, yo, we just start. We just picked the bricks yesterday. But what is gonna look like? The hush puppet is still the same straight crap, you know what I mean. I just want to take time to appreciate my friend and appreciate my friends. Like you know, I look at young Droe. He's running around the city right now helping kids not get involved in bullshit and drugs and stuff. And this is out the long battle himself and his family, you know, with that
like trophing bank head courts. Like you know, when you starting to rate how hard ship got, by the time you get the bank head court, shit was lighted.
It was bleak, you know what I mean?
This man Mama kept them fresh, helped them health here and high honor. And now to see him in the community doing that, and that ain't he ain't just like oh, I used to wrap this mother in the studio, wrapping his ass off right there too. So being with him in Country Sea Rod, you know what I mean, like being with the guys who we started young, not knowing what the fuck. Doug, his wife Crystal and my wife
Shae had spearheaded the bank Head Seafood. They went out and found it funding, They put the ship together, They went to the neighborhood meetings, they had budded with the people who were coming in and gentrifying with opinions, who were pushing legacy people out. So it's just been a battle and I'm so proud of Crystal and Shade. I'm proud of Tip fuck because he could have said fucks man, like Tip could have said fuck it lo, fuck black people,
and fuck people who don't believe I'm good. And every time he keep doing what his grandparents would have wanted him to do.
Take care of his take care, take care of his side.
You know, that's that's what That's Whatqball would have wanted us to do. That's what that's what you know, Charlie Cato would have wanted us to do. And people from Atlanta know what the fuck I'm talking about when.
I say these names.
And if you don't, don't ask, because you can't google these people. That's that's what that makes me proud to say this my friend and this my business partner. Because the same little boys who will selling dope, who you said wasn't gonna be shipped. Now the sire little boys got one.
Hundred and forty three years.
He got a one hundred and forty three years affordable hinding so people like us can afford to live.
There, the same little boys.
And then you do some of the album and studio, yeah, yeah we did something stink only.
But then Super Sound is really just like become a reporting home for me like I own. You know, I just man Elliott again because when I was on my ass brand hustle, you know, gave me shelves and gave me a place to beat, gave me business.
So you know, I just you you.
Pay that law to it.
If I'm going to spend some money, I'm speeding with my own that studio.
Absolutely, man, Mike Michael, thank you man.
You know listen, you know this six months in given, I'm giving it to Mike.
You know listen is going to be that list.
It's going to make the listen. You know, this album made me proud to be an American man.
Like it's it's a really good accomplishment.
If you're not if you're not a killer, Mike fan, I think you will be with this.
And I just love that you said it's like, you know, just sing our culture.
Outside of all that you're saying, it has substance even in our culture, like the fact that again we used to put these lines of like this person has a cut off point of their relevance to.
Us and that that ship is out the window. That's like killing and shook up as I ever be.
I gotta, I gotta. I got a sixteen year old daughter that call me oh man, but she said, I ain't never seen it.
You ain't cool. You're the coolest, thank you, but Mike, Yeah. Rap Raiate on podcasts.
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